Nuestra experiencia y aprendizajes después de un retiro con psicodélicos.

Nos enseñaron a buscar respuestas afuera: en más estrategia, más esfuerzo, más control, más lógica. Pero hay momentos en los que el siguiente nivel de crecimiento no se desbloquea pensando más, sino sintiendo mejor. En este episodio abrimos una conversación profunda sobre psicodélicos, crecimiento personal, conexión espiritual, trauma, relación de pareja y la diferencia entre entender tu historia y realmente transformarla.

Compartimos lo que vivimos en nuestro primer retiro acompañado: lo que vimos sobre energía femenina y masculina, autoexigencia, decisiones que no terminábamos de tomar, necesidad de control, espiritualidad, familia y esa verdad incómoda que muchas personas evitan mirar: no todo se resuelve desde la mente. A veces la claridad aparece cuando por fin sueltas las palabras, bajas al cuerpo y dejas de controlar la experiencia.

Este episodio no busca romantizar nada. Busca abrir posibilidades, cuestionar prejuicios y mostrar que hay caminos de crecimiento que no se entienden desde el juicio, sino desde la experiencia, la consciencia y la integración. Porque el 1% no hereda su vida: la conversa, la cuestiona y la rediseña desde adentro.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

There are demasiada taboo and demasiada information.

SPEAKER_02 0:03

As you have delivered psychodélicos, we're going to tell you what the experience is. Yo when I tomorrow medicine con Eduardo me encantó, bueno, empezamos nuestro viaje. The via 40 minutes, one hour in peg.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

The sensations are nuanced and much more rapid than what you podía ponerle palabras.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

And when entras in el viaje es como que ya no tienes limitante para ver.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

La energía no es de nadie.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

In un punto te das cuenta que tú puedes estar creciendo mucho y si la otra persona no quiere crecer, pues se quedó ahí. Está ayudando. Hola, hola! Bienvenidos ando más del Club El 1% Podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Podcit.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Me encanta. Ahora I think my amount of this introduction. The other day we came with an amigu who got his podcast. ¡Podkita! And for us, we're like wow! Yes, part of the market. Well, who connected say that I'm Eduardo Katineri, and we are hosting the podcast of the Club, which the objective of this podcast is to ayudate, pregnant, connect with you for this, not like person like this 1% and not the 99%. Contigo, with the others, and with this construyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Así es, así que bienvenidos andas por estar aquí. ¿De qué vamos a hablar hoy?

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Hoy traemos un tema that I was demasiado emocionado ultimamente, which is the psychodélicities with the crecimiento personality. I'm studying a master for accompanying with these medicines. So we're at our psychodélicities, I'm going to tell you what the experience is, and I will show you our appendights that we said the same runs to escuch what we appreciated. Basically, my intention when I entered the medicine was what we're doing the crew of our work, because I think that we're creating full and we got a scale that we're going to super what we have at the end for entertainment. This is one. The I'm auto exigented with me, the phone negro in the I don't know this person, I would say, and después of this, I think I'm full distinct.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Three a year of therapy.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Kathy and I, as we were aligned, at the moment the intentions, and I said.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

And then it was the thing of your role in the negotiation and a thing of distribution of energy feminine and energy masculine that you're talking about. But that was a few. It's like our relation and the negotiation. If you are autoexigented with you, what you have to do and what does it say about the maternity survey, and distribution of energy feminine, energy masculine between your parents and you, this podcast will be because we're going to compare what we have in this video.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Then, if you simply because they listen to attention to the psychodélicities and know what the potential and what are the things that are here, obviously we're going to start this, and what we're going to say is that our experience gives the world of the possibilities, our apprentice will transform in our apprentice, but then it would be an incentive to say wow, this is the attention, not me at the attention, not there.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

100%. So for email, a response for me. 100%. Okay, te tengo una pregunta. Después de ese retiro, antes de echarles el chismecito, todo lo que fue. El retiro fue hace una semana. Hace una semana y dos días. Un poquito más. ¿Qué te cambió para ti esa experiencia del retiro en cuanto a tu concepto acerca de retiros, tu concepto acerca de tomar medicina, and your concepto acerca del crecimiento personal?

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Primero muchísimo. I'm the person in many moments in my life when there are cambios profundos. And obviously, the cambios profund occurrence in the moments more incomes of your life. And so it was a campaign. Catherine and I, for those who are, but at least personal personality, we have been recreative, but we have been under, integrating, appearing. There were three, so we've got the dental of what I've heard of the medicine, and what you're talking about. It's like a moment for you and dent of this type of retract that we were, which I don't know necessarily if it will be.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

But this experience, more than the experience, because I'm going to ask what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

I don't know exactly what I want to do, but I'm here. And from this internal, I'm in this external for trying to integrate.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Context that I'm saying, but Carmen, my daughter, my mother, I am, but it was in collapse when we entered that to this return, like you, no. So basically we did a much of the dialogue, but I was horrorized. And when we were the return, and you said the car is the Bible, and I said, I said Eduardo, and I said in the retro that you said that it was the diablock. Fue comic, wow!

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I need to explain one of the things, but the question that I language of the time I was. You don't meditate, I appreciate it in the remote.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

I was ate, ateo, ateo, ateo when I said. Before my crew personality, I think it was, but I was like, and I'm learning the Bible because I'm Catholic, but I'm saying the Bible for studying all the time of Jesus, all the time of creation personality, because the final year this year has combined the history of the humanity at a moment.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

So it's like a part of curiosity, a part of God, which doesn't think that the exactly that you describe, not the mean, no looks. But in general, I'm in business.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

And what we cambiated in what we have solid, and now we were with people who encontraste valioso of having a retirement with other 12 people.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

The energy is a life, because you're with the energy to be a laugh. In general, you think that the family is literally the energy that would camp the world. And all these bromas, and part of the connection that I went for dental, and part of the message of the takeaway is that the family is the sang.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

But this explains like, because it's a little bit of context, and we don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

But for real, who the family is not the sangre. So if there are people who adopt and say this more than a family of sang. There are people who are the amount and the beauty of those people who convert in their mother, and I think that the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy is much more profound that. What I can do to me?

SPEAKER_02 11:19

What me cambian?

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Claro, what is it?

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Well, you respond with amor.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Ah no, yo, you're with amor, okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

What mean about the retirement? I reaffirmed profoundly my deseo of sustaining. But now when the retirement was, I host. In the second one, I've had these experiences like that is connected, the signals that I made the university, that you put a design and a plume, all this I've been doing. I'm super creative in this. But in this room, I had an experience of it hyper connected and it is part of a plan more than what we saw with these two people who connected, which was like Mercol. Okay, I can't do it because it's like I don't have the control of that. So this illusion that you sound control, and you have to make the things for what happened, it's like no. Okay, this is part of a plan more grandeur, and I could feel and sold the control because there's alguien alien who suspends and puts the pieces and we put it in a little bit since we don't have to. And I perd the way to have this solid. One of the money that we had, Eduardo and I was that miracle we were talking and we're regular, why are we solid? And so I perded the money and I can't do it, and I think that we anclou much of creating, but we have to create individually, because Eduardo has tantal time, 17 years old, that we've created. So a lot of individuality, and I think that in this rescating. And so it was very funny. And obviously, it's more important to what we host and sustain the space. The people who accompany have an energy spectacular. So this was super. So this was a little bit that means. And what le dash?

SPEAKER_01 14:48

No, no, 10, 10, 10, 10. 10, 10, 10, 100%. No, no puedo darle 11 because we're in control of the reglass, Catherine.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Igual siempre estábamos viendo como que en el retiro, como que estábamos viendo en el retiro, como que haríamos en el nuestro, cuando tarde. Exactamente, exactamente. Ok, entonces bueno, para contarles rápido el contexto, rapidito, and we can see when we contribute what we're basically el retirement empezada el sábado a las 9 de la mañana andaba el domingo a las 11. O sea, unas 26 horas of retiro. Estaba no en la ciudad principal, but Cali. And it was incredible, we presentamos, and then we have a lugar que era ¿cómo se llama este espacio?

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Sí, como un cané.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Como un cané, anda como que una preparación de una fogatita en el medio, con unas velitas, como el altar, por decirlo de alguna manera, andas 14 colchonetitas alrededor en círculo, y entonces nosotros teníamos que bajar nuestras sabanitas, nuestras almohaditas, básicamente preparar una camita de hotel ahí alrededor.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

En un par de yoga, nada fancy, pues, pero.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Nada fancy, pero perfecto.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Perfecto.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

Entonces ahí nos llevamos las sábanas porque hacía frito, suéteres, vasos para tomar agua y siempre está hidratada durante el viaje, una ¿cómo se llama?

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Una venda.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Una vendita para los ojos, and compartimos la razón fora. Entonces ya empezabas a conectar con las personas.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Con las historias of the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Sí, como que, wow, I got this of this person, I have this of this person, wow. And it's like empezabas a connect profundamente and the space.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Son of the misery. But at the final phone, you don't think, this today I have, I did that exist, because I have this. And they are in this question that you recognize the phone, there are those who are, and there are others who are vivid, and there are others that after you describes that, I'm this.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Exactly. But in that way, it has been like an ambience super bonus. So there were two options: O M, M, which is MDMA, or siempre records.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

But for people who have much prejuicious and super aconsejo ver un poco más de la información antes de demasiado tabú y demasiada desinformación. O sea, recuerden que hace años el alcohol era ilegal and el sacrilegio y era lo que iba a matar a la humanidad, and de repente dijeron, bueno, capaz no, vamos a hacerlo legal, y ahora es todo lo contrario que es super normal, y ahora estamos pasando por una etapa de coño, pero esta vaina nos hace, nos matan. Entonces, no nos vayamos por la moda que está en el momento de la gente that's government and the information that we have to get, because there are much more. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

But it's more your biographies, your history, your traumas, your past, your mind. The onguitos también, but connect more with the university, and you can see. Eduardo and you're M. So we're the 40 minutes, one hour to peg, you're like three or four hours in the picnic, and then vash, and then integrate the day, passing and passing, but then sales delay like 4 hours, and then 5 hours, and then in your life, your life, 8 hours, and then 10, and they're like phases, but you can see the other episode that you can understand more for nothing in this. So, empezate the via, Eduardo.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Prime context: you don't meditate. For me, stay solo with me is difficult. And so obviously, I'm an approach of the communication, of the persuasion, so the palatas for me have an importance brutal. And my trip is trying to call it mentally, which is difficult, and in all this notes, where I try to describe that sensation corporate that I have that is infinitely different and expansive. And the first conversation was why I'm going to communicate with it, because what I was happy that my life i have a velocity, the sensations nuevas were in a velocity much more rapidly than you put on it. So, for example, I saw an ormigu, but I had terminated and I had other things, and others, and there were sensations corporate that I was doing. And when you start trying to put it on this, and try to put it in my life, like I'm in the life, I did this demo that Rocky, the perito that we saw, was the maestro in this moment that I saw, which was that the palabras are a thing of an experience human. The plants, the bromas. And I got this super profound that was like wow, clear! Because at the moment one pension in the amount, and you say, amor, but what's amount? And you put to describe the amount, and it's super peludo.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

But when you send it, there's idea, it's amor, and the amount that you sent you is the same that you send you to the bigger. Claro, it's a sensation corporate different.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

And wow, what profound is what I'm saying. Listo. We're going to draw the palates. And so, when I enter what I said, it was like a click, and I was like, Listen, I went to the palates, and I was like me in the sensations corporate. And I was locked.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

It's the heavy. It's very bucear the alarm. It's like entries in a piscina of images and information and it's like you're having a team. So genuinely wants to talk and see what the response are. The response are the response that are dental. A lot of images.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

The thing has a clarity.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

But spoiler, this experience ayudar that meditations possible encontrar esa claridad.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

But no es palabras.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Quiero compartir un ejemplo that dio la host, o sea, que nos está liberando el retiro, which is like if you vas por la vida, o sea, cuando estás dormido, eres un caballo con los ojos cerrados. When you empiezas a despertar andas in tu día a día, con estas cosas that you pick in the cavalry that no. And when entrant in the via is like ya no tienes limit for it, but they draw clarity to your day a day.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

I went to a lot of you say, Eduardo, but it's demo. But it's what I think, it's when one is the phone of the those, and they say, Well, you passed this, this I think, this I think. So the broma was you have like three heniers. So you have the genio of the analysis, the pension, elio del sentir, el who is sentiendo the things, and the most savious who observes. But those are things different. The who observes no, no, no scientists, but entende all. Obviously, I imagine that we're much of the who's that is terribly insane, that the gentleman is satanizing, because no, but I'm not sure. But if you're in excess, it's good, but the who is protegiendo, is this conviene o nos conviene.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

Claro, es la mente de la supervivencia que explico en vuelve a ti.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Exactamente. Yo vivo. Yo vivo in pensamiento and observación. O sea, por eso yo he sanado tanto my infancia. And so el sanar te libera, te libera el experimentar. Eso. Lo libera, o sea, lo viviste, lo liberaste, y ya lo vas a ver.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Claro, cuando te permite sentir and experimentar the emotion, passar por tu parte mental and utilizas three, is like this experience, this cycle se cerrely and sealió.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Correct. And for me it was like repeating this. And it was like I put it like diagrams in my mind of how functional, after I did my library, I have a diagram. But basically what I entered was you when I have a decision, this is what I can do. I think that's what I would like, but I don't understand that it's what I would like.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

For the intuition, for this almost, at the time.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

And I think that the things that for me have done from the action, it's an action, it's like for example with my head. So I say I can agree and say it's the best for my head, and I don't have it. No, you think that I'm my own. But you send it that it's the most for them. But for example, with the empresa, with much things, you know, and I don't have it but I puse a penny that you think it would have been.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

No, because Alex Ormosi in marketing did that, no séquency, but not that it was de ti deve. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

And there are much things that would send a dental, but if you don't pass, for this takeaway that for this I got demasiada clarity, I took a meditar all the day. The action will pass. But when I forzed to me because I don't see, but I think I see, I don't know. This was my regalo.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Me encanta, demasiado.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Can you comment? Because I went to my experience.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Okay. And what is that when you piens and the observator, okay? When we start across, we empezed away that the dolores of migraine are because Eduardo no lost. And so when we passed in the life that conflicts, that moves, for example, the umbrella, in life, that it frustrates that whole person of the frustrating, Eduardo no, has much migraine. So what no experiment manifests in the world. And so, for example, this malestar is part of this. The most heavy is that after the via ancless that you viviste ah. And so, for example, all this that you send males is 100% of this. Seguro. It looks hackear when te vayas al sentiment.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Seguro, seguro cuando lo meditas esta noche.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Entonces, yo me pongo las ventas, tal, me acuerdas, and the facilitadora decía that one of the manneras for entry in medicine is to have a dormant, because when you have the intent the pension for entry to the side. I got all the necessity. I don't need nothing, I don't need that. It's the only thing I think in the life. So, into your energy masculine, you control, and what I perceived in the control, and with this ambition that you have for getting dinner, for creating, for comparing, for impact. A lot of coarteo, I don't know if it is so, or Edu because I got gigantic, with this exigence of my auto exigence that I try to see, so I try to my life, and I paralyzo, not, for example, we're gonna put a cabana in the montagna and Catherine gets the cabana. So I don't know. This was what I sent in my life. Not necessarily what it is, but I would say how my energy. In fact, you know this, which is what I'm important, I could journey that you sustain with your energy masculine and sustain at the rhythm that I'm saying, not with this pressure. And in this time, I didn't know that I had a Catherine of six or seven years in his house with much, no, okay, my closet had a teeth had to get a piece of rotten, okay, my mother, there was much. And I was here in this moment and my mother, I was sold. So I was in my life when Catherine created a credential limit that the solid. So I was much and not working, because it was this, I got this, I have the dinner because I had to perform this, and I was for islear me. I think the thing, my energy feminine, and three or three years, and there have been, and I said that in the time that I turned, I was controlled. And I was like, I'm going to travel after the three of the time. And I was like, I'm going to stay in travel and I'm going to go to my swells because my son went to be 8 or 3 of the time, and I was in pain with this. And this would be a little bit more less, I'm in pays with it because I would stay with my friends and Eduardo in a different way. And in this time, connecting with it, I had a sensation like I was lista for my mamma. And it was like a sensation profile that I'm listening, no one. And I had to be like I don't care that my home mayor will be eight years, and you say that I'm listening for her mama. And I was like, I didn't know that I was approximately the maternity, see, the resolve, but not the presence. But I encarnava much of my mind from this perspective. It was like I was listening to that, okay, I'm listening. And it was like wow, it was so much amongfield. And the idea that I received of the response was like this is what I felt to get at the name of your energy, to honor your energy feminine and you maternity to your clients, like this energy feminine in the network and permitting that Eduardo season that masculine, the KPIs, and I don't know what. And you such it because always not your area of genius, but it's in other work, and I received a message like I was doing this at my negotiation, so I was doing my kids. And so it was like, 'Okay, I'm demasiated spectacular,' and I emailed messages of how to compart my messages at the reading social, how to learn with Eduardo in this, I got in images in much clarity, which I integrate and you have to. And that's basically this was the response to incarnate my energy feminine, and genuinely say that I'm listening to encarnam 100% to renunciation to my things, that are important, and a incredible with Eduardo. That was a great part of my life.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

For example, your homes there have a gap with those. In the way I did an hour, but I would have done one. I did 20 minutes. So okay, you're in a abusive, your papa picked, paternity, and you're trying to sanity, so no, this figure paternal, this energy of papa that would have this concept, that would have a little limit. It's more limited. If the energy is of anything, the energy is of anything. You have to have energy for infinite people more than what I'm saying. One of the things that I have in the world was like my mission, it's what I did. In the company, in many ways, I was a child, you were, you were a child. And those people were family for me. And those of those who were fortunate and this passage of consolidation to be a pattern of confirmation. In the club I have friends, I have parents, I have kids, I have. These are the types of person that we are in the club. But also camping the mind with this community.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

For those who don't know, the club 1%, okay, this is the club 1% podcast, there's a club 1% members, which is a membership mensual that has objective driving these herrage for your version and construct your life and a family and different, because the form of the form of creating relations of pareil seven. And at the same time, for you have this in your parents, or in pareja, because eventually vases in pareja, season, too. So in this journey of convertir in a mejor version, to create person, crecemos in family.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Literally, and it was verse the potential to camping the world, because your program is demonstrated. And this is the child that describes the moon for complete, 100%. Fue the message that we sent it from explaining the message, because the testimonies that are incredible, but for a gentleman who entire what we are creating.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

And for not giving this episode more large and simply compartment that for me was very important, which was the way of the connection with the other people, and this I think of the issue of the life and how it is a plan more great. Let's do a resume in fast track. When we were in Panama, I said to Eduardo, Edward, what horrible it would be to marry you and you and hear our kids with paper and mother.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

And we go in the lion.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

And no, no, no, it's a sensation rare. So we got away, you know.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

After those, today building her to integrate what is the life of your parents and being a life where you have to adopt roles in temperature that they were, and now what I'm doing with the life and the consequences that have to me, I should work in this.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

And when I said I was profoundly, when they intervene, I said, Wow, I connect with them. Result that when I was just in front of me, I was in these people, when I went to him and I'm with him, the mother of this was, and I said, 'I have to do it.' Basically Eduardo and connected with her, I connect with him. Basically, the connection that we had an energy. Eduardo, and adult. Most of us. But I sent the energy of my mom, and Eduardo sent the energy of my mother, and when I acercame, I empected a receiving messages that no era, who was my mom, and because you decided, he decided. And the heavy era was that he decided to see and llorava profundamente. You said with all the amount of mind like a mamma. And all the characteristics were equal to Ike, my hijo. And the characteristics of it were equal to Antonella, my hair, and he decided that my mama parecía energéticamente a me, extrovertida, tal. And so conectamos a los pelos, tengo piel de gallina. Of Zoom, Santi Pelea.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

It's a little bit difficult to explain because after it suena muy bizarro y suena como de gente loca, pero créeme que nada que ver. Era la Roma más hermosa that you have in my life.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

In my life, nunca lo voy a olvidar, nunca lo voy a olvidar. Entonces, ellos said that we agree much more for this experience, and I said profoundly that they're things of their papa and my mother with us, and at the same time, to me away to understand the mamma that I encarned. So to also be and accompany and sustain and escuch is demo. And I would encar the way that has this from mamma, and I was in the world that designed here, three years ago that I realized the retiring, I had a situation with Iker and I resolved in this manner. I for the day I did things that I never did, okay, of my emotions that for me was life changing.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

And it's a thing that the energy is of nothing, the energy no needs of it. It's like rare, no, the iron, the phone, but the energy, what's what they do the energy, what's what they do the iron energy, what's what they do the child, what's what they do the brother, the paper, or what's your, but the mother accompanyes, I don't know, what is the energy for me, this energy that we have to do. And when they do, the person for the total to receive it.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

And it's very important because there's when you try to resolve all this person and the things that they said to my mother, like in this episode, and it's like this, and in a moment you give that you can start creating much, and if the other person doesn't create, you go away, and you always say I don't want to have this energy in my life. No, the life is so when you sign this, when you in life and energy from another. And I connect with the energy of my hair, and they're at kilometers of distance. So it's like the idea of God saying to your life, if you have your life and creates and transformes the life and you left in conscience, you have to have all the necessary to import the conditions in which it's totally the idea of that person.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Está ayudando anda ayudando al mundo, 100%. And so you have one person, two person, three person that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

But I'm compared to you, escuchamos and learn. If you can see, Katy.ner in all the redes sociales. Eduardo Rayabajo and Club 1 official in all the redesights. If you are lists for your version and construct this version of us and create in family, the ClubL1% is for you, and above is the link. We are the comments that can't after. Edu y yo estamos disponible, and we're a grand.