We'd Like to See Them Put a Dan on the Moon

Three grown men treat altar serving like a Division I pipeline, complete with depth charts, incense specialists, and funeral NIL deals—before pivoting seamlessly into breaking down the Artemis launch like it’s the Super Bowl of rockets. Dr. TAT celebrates the birth of a new mandatory listener (huge for the podcast’s long-term rebuild), while Stat Boy simultaneously proposes forced podcast consumption as a parenting strategy. Panda Dan declines a moon trip (coward behavior) with the confidence of a coach punting on 4th-and-1, Pluto gets cut from the roster, planets are ranked based on “rizz,” and the crew debates whether we’re about to run a full colonoscopy on the moon’s backside. It’s Easter, the sun is shining, both the Phillies & #SetHike!'s Andrew Painters are looming, and somehow this episode still spends 20 minutes scouting space like it’s the NFL Draft. WARNING: This podcast may contain - incense abuse allegations, a $100, 20-year investment strategy, and one man’s dream to put a Dan on the moon. 

Key Topics Discussed

00:20 – Altar Server Combine & Church Power Rankings 

08:39 – Mandatory Listeners & Podcast Growth Strategy 

12:15 – Artemis Launch: Accidental Viewing Experience 

16:18 – Rocket Confusion, Space Stats & Canadian Representation 

19:21 – 'til touchdown brings me 'round again to find (Ooh) I'm not the man they think I am at home. Oh, no, no, no (ah), I'm a Rocket Dan....psych!

23:47 – Planet Rankings, Pluto Controversy & Ring “Rizz”  

26:40 – Foot Washing Logistics & Church Traditions Spiral 

01:15:00 – Deep Cuts, Random Debates & Ongoing Bits 

01:24:30 – Spring Optimism, Moon Mission Hype & Closing Thoughts 

Statistics & Facts

• Artemis mission will be the first time photos are taken of the far side of the moon  
•  The first Canadian in space was Marc Garneau in 1984 
• 9 Canadians across 17 space missions
• A deacon's primary role is service and charity; a priest's is sacramental leadership
• Priests wear a poncho-style vestment over their robes (the guys' word for it, not the technical term)
• The most common animal mascot in Division I sports is the Bulldog (14 schools)
• The Jets signed Geno Smith, with their head coach saying he would "lead us to the promised land"
• Andrew Painter is 6'7"
• Kevin McGonigle, from Monsignor Bonner, was drafted in the second round by the Detroit Tigers and is off to a hot start with Rookie of the Year buzz
• Patrick Robinson intercepted Case Keenum in the 2017 NFC Championship game and returned it roughly 50 yards for a touchdown in what became a blowout Eagles win
• Jim Harbaugh has more career rushing yards than Bo Jackson

Memorable Quotes

"No." - Panda Dan declining space instantly

"Wasn't he caught just getting high on the incense." - Stat Boy

"We’re basically doing a colonoscopy of the moon." - Dr. TAT

"I always want to have a big Johnson on your team. Because if you don't have a big Johnson... you want to have a swinging Johnson, right? The Johnson that can swing onto the other side, could go right to left, left to right... you can always plug him in the middle if you need to." - Dr. TAT

"Were altar servers ranked like a combine?" - Stat Boy

"I mean, I won't name like any names or anything, but I saw tension between the deacon and the priest sometimes." - Panda Dan

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:20

Welcome everyone to the nineteenth inaugural episode of the Said Hike podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Tat, and with me as always is Panda Dan. Stat Boy. Pregnant Pause. No longer pregnant pause. Nobody else. It's the three amigos, the three caballeros, right, Dan? How are you feeling, buddy? Good, good. Yeah, we're here holy Thursday, Easter week. We'll probably release this on Good Friday. Amen to that. Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday. Yeah, you're a Tritium guy, right? You're a big, big fan. Yeah. Yeah. It's always. I remember back to our days in Catholic school. Yeah, that was a big deal. If you were an altar server during that time, it was like it was a crazy week because uh you had to go every day. And there was like 12 altar servers. Like it was it was crazy. Yeah. I wasn't planning on bringing that up, but yeah, crazy matters. Crazy time. You know? Yeah, it's the final three. And yeah, yeah, but here we here we are. Easter Sunday. Easter week, babe. Easter week.

Speaker 3 1:23

Did they use the best altar servers during this week where they're like ranked throughout the year? And then they're like, all right, let's bring in the eighth team.

Speaker 2 1:29

Yeah, it kind of was. Yeah. I remember I wonder if any of our listeners were also. I think at least a couple of them, but uh but no, it was a big deal.

Speaker 1 1:38

Yeah, it was it was like the best of the best. Was there some sort of combine, or how did you guys grade altar serving capabilities? Uh, I am not an altar server, I've never served the Lord in that capacity. So uh I would love to get the kind of thoughts on uh I mean, what was your best attribute as a as a server?

Speaker 2 1:55

Yeah, I think I was just like a great teammate to all the altar servers. You know, you always had your incense guy, like there was always a guy that was like extractors. Are you an incense?

Speaker 1 2:05

Were you the incense guy? Were you the cross guy? There's also a book guy, the the guy who has to hold the good word. That's that's big. Yeah, yeah, that's important.

Speaker 2 2:12

Yeah, I don't want to like dox anyone, but if there was someone that comes to mind in our St. Dot's days that was like a great incense guy. Yeah. Uh yeah. Yeah, his yeah, I won't do it.

Speaker 3 2:22

Wasn't he caught just getting high on the incense? What's that?

Speaker 1 2:25

Wasn't he caught getting high on the incense?

Speaker 2 2:27

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I I I no one ever heard from him again. He kind of just did that incense thing.

Speaker 1 2:32

Now, as the server, did you did you have to like make the incense, or were you just the one who was lighting it up? No, it was like a whole process. Like you had to like get the rocks, I guess, from the closet, and then you had to like stir, you had to do this like stirring process and then light it. This sounds like which cards are crazy, yeah. Yeah, sounds like alcohol. But the thing was also like some of the all-star altar servers would always do like the funerals and the wedding. Oh, yeah. That's where the money was there too. That's where the Lord paid you. Yeah, I know, I know. So, like, plus you could get out of school for the funerals and then yeah, like a wedding, you would get paid like at least 20 bucks. What do you think your career earnings as an altar server was? I mean, I was probably like in the over a hundred over a hundred dollars? Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's not bad. That's pretty good. I did like probably yeah, and I did multiple weddings, and then I probably did like at least ten funerals. Yeah. Yeah. Was there someone who was and the one priest my senior helldozer at St. Dodd's, rest in peace, he would he would always give like the same speech at the uh at the funerals.

Speaker 2 3:34

But it was a good speech. I I can I still pump you up, like it's a pre-game speech.

Speaker 1 3:38

But like I remember one time some woman during the homily like got up and gave him a standing ovation. Like she was like inspired by the homily, and then it's like went nuts.

Speaker 2 3:47

And this was like sitting there, like, this guy does this like everyone three times a week.

Speaker 1 3:52

This is his Tuesday special, man. Just wait until you hear Sunday. I I like to think that helldo's are may he rest in peace. He probably was kind of like the Bobby Knight type, right? Like he's throwing, he's throwing candles, he's telling he's all fire and brimstone, right? You know, he demanded the best out of his altar servers. We know we love cologne on this. I remember he had like this distinct cologne he would wear, and it was it was like a it smelled, it smelled good. He was a cigar guy too, right? There's a lot of smoke. I'm noticing a lot of scents come through the life of an altar server, right? You've got cigars, you've got cologne, you've got incense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah, yeah, I mean, it was a big deal. Like the deacon was like it was all like all hands on deck for what was your best mess that you served? Like, what was your Super Bowl? Did you get a did you get an Easter Sunday? I mean, I feel like Pom Sunday was a lot of fun, too. It was interesting because when you did the holy thing the lights going a little fine. Yeah, I think the Lord is probably right now. He's like, get off this topic. I mean, it's it's a little bit kind of like Stranger Things, but this very well. I mean, we might also be, you know, enticing the you know, the dark angels to come down on us, or Dan might not have paid his electric bill. It's one of those two.

Speaker 2 5:05

That should be better.

Speaker 1 5:06

But uh, there we go. Phew. Yeah, when you when you were when you were an altar server for holy week, like you actually didn't this is gonna sound crazy, but you didn't even serve Easter Sunday. The the big like the big Super Bowl moment was the Easter vigil the night before because it yeah, I don't think anyone even goes to that, but that's like a two-hour mass and like like the hardcore. You gotta be on your A game. Yeah, so that was like everything was leading up to that. And how was the relationship with the altar server and the deacon, right? You know, because the deacon is kind of like the big dom of like the the church uh mass, I'll say. Yeah, it was was it abrasive? Was it cohesive? I mean, is that like the offensive coordinator of the mass? Was was the deacon the patulo?

Speaker 2 5:47

I mean, I won't name like any names or anything, but the I I saw tension between the deacon and the priest sometimes.

Speaker 1 5:54

Yeah, so like the altar service would just kind of it wasn't necessarily between the deacon and the altar service, the the altar service would observe this this very apparent tension between the priest and the and the deacon. Because I've noticed I noticed uh in my brief stint behaving like a fake Catholic that you would you would have certain deacons, they would always get the gospel, right? They would get to do the gospel, yeah. Never the homily, right? Yeah, you know, the homily is saved for helldews or or murph dog, you know, all all the all the greats. But every once in a while you just have a deacon who wouldn't even get the gospel, and and clearly that's just oil and water, right? Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like an offensive coordinator that like doesn't get to call the plays or something. That's just like not like up to par. Yeah.

Speaker 6:38

Yeah. Exciting times.

Speaker 1 6:40

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of our listeners probably were altar servers, so maybe that'll spark some memories.

Speaker 3 6:47

Yeah, it very well could. Were you, Stepboy? Were you a server of the altar? So I would want it to be, and then my father was like, absolutely no.

Speaker 1 6:57

I was in the same boat. I was in the same boat. I want to make some cash.

Speaker 3 7:00

Yeah. He's like, no, not happening.

Speaker 1 7:02

Yeah, you could have made tens of dollars. Could have made a hundred dollars. Yeah. Yeah. You invest in that in like some stock, you would be well, double the just like you, Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you put yours into Apple, right? And then I mean, the rest is history. Yeah. I mean, I invested my altar server, you know, so what is it? Stipend, I guess I would call it. I mean, you could call it a salary, but uh that would be pushing it, I think. But yeah, I invested that, and that's kind of like how we're in this house right now. Yeah. So and I have Eagles season tickets. So you're a blessed man. And I think we're we're all blessed here. We're we're entering the month of April. But also shout out to AJ Dillon. He, you know, he obviously was around the Easter festivities at Dawson College. So yeah. I don't know what he's celebrating now, but he's in our thoughts. He's down in Carolina, right? And so I I mean, we we did say, you know, did does he blow up the Positivity Rabbit on Easter Sunday? I you gotta think so, right?

Speaker 2 7:59

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 8:00

We you know, early episodes of this podcast, we yeah, we spoke in depth about the positivity rabbit, and yeah, here we are Easter. I'm feeling positive. Are you feeling positive? Yeah, I am Stepboy, are you feeling positive?

Speaker 3 8:12

You don't yeah, let's let's be positive. Boy, you sound so positive. Yeah, you know, yeah. No, I am positive. This is this is a positive experience I'm having right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 8:20

And and how has your April been, Dan? It's been good. It's what today's the second day of April, right? It sure is. It's been good.

Speaker 2 8:28

Yeah. There were a few good April Fools things. Well, the one that was actually real light. I thought it was a joke. But um But no, I did want to congratulate you, Dr.

Speaker 1 8:38

Tat, too, on your on your news recently to your family that you brought a human into into the planet Earth. Well, I I'm currently on my father Springer, and it's it's been quite nice. Father Springer. Yeah. So this is nice. Let me Dan, I I I love the fact that you brought this up because you know, you complete me. And you know, Staff Boy's merely just witnessing our relationship unfold. Yeah. The are you familiar with and and as a business magnet, I'm sure you are, the the phrase when it comes to breakfast, the chicken is involved, but the pig is committed. Right? That's a classic. You're familiar with that? You it doesn't sound like you are, but you you understand the allegory here, right? No.

Speaker 2 9:25

Please explain.

Speaker 1 9:26

So when it comes to the Seth podcast, there's a couple of different ways you can build up viewership and listenership, right? And uh some people access the most important interviews, you know. I know you're working very hard at certain landing certain white whales. Yeah, some folks work in the social media realm or put stickers in random spaces in the public arena, you know, kind of bending the laws of common decency. And other people just naturally produce listeners. And, you know, I like to consider myself the pig of the podcast. I am committed, Dan, to the success of this podcast because I have added a mandatory listener and a shout out to Kit Tat right now, is listening to this podcast as we speak. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well said. So I uh and everyone's doing wonderful. And I think it's very important that we acknowledge how very important it is to build up our viewership. I'm hoping, I I'm assuming, Dan, you're going to sire at least two or three Sid Hike podcast listeners in the next five years. Yeah. Is that about right? Two to three? Mostly. Yeah, because Stat Boy's got two. Yeah. Right? You have two. Two. I think so. Yeah. Are they listening regularly? All the time. They do have to strong boys. We got to pump the numbers up. Yeah. Because even in within my household, I have every kid have to listen to the podcast separately every morning I publish it. I use it as a punishment.

Speaker 3 10:59

I say if you do not eat all your dinner, you are going to have to listen to the last podcast. You're going to have to listen. They crushed their eight minutes on Scooby-Doo. Yes.

Speaker 11:08

And they're like, no, God dad, please.

Speaker 1 11:12

Yeah. Nah that's great. That's great. But yeah, that beautiful baby girl.

Speaker 2 11:16

We saw pictures.

Speaker 1 11:18

Um yeah, I like the pink hat you put on her. That was very nice. That was to establish the gender. You know, they all kind of look the same. But yeah, no, we're we're very blessed. And yeah, the Tat family has grown, and so shout out to your family. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, we're trying to get her right back onto the horse. You know, she does have to help get get our little girl going in the world, but you know, we also need our social media bump, right? Yeah, and seriously, let's get let's get selfie. You know, we're gonna we're gonna pump and we're gonna pump up the numbers in the case.

Speaker 3 11:47

Whatever I gotta do to get her back here.

Speaker 1 11:49

Yeah, you know. Yeah, I mean, uh I told her her maternity leave is gonna be 72 hours, so yeah, when it comes to that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we have a good maternity leave and paternity leave policy here at Setho. I I mean the technology screen. And then it's off. I mean, during our telecommunications crisis, I mean, you gave those those folks a couple hours of rest to get us over the hump, remember?

Speaker 2 12:12

Yeah, we gave them lunch break, breakfast break.

Speaker 1 12:14

Yeah, yeah. Wow, how kind of you. So I did want to bring up before, you know, we are a sports podcast, Dan, right? Yeah, but I also think shenanigans is uh, you know, our third kind of third what part of the stool, right? Third leg, if you will. Sure. And so did you watch Artemis II launch and how did you feel about it? Yeah, I did actually see it. I I had a eye doctor, not I mean, not to get you did not see it then. No, no, I had an eye doctor appointment like late afternoon, and then so that's why usually I wouldn't be home at that hour. Do you usually watch like once you you watch the shuttle with your eye doctor? You're like, hey, let's go. Yeah, once we see that there's one scheduled, I just call them up and I say that's let's you know, have the appointment simultaneously with. Oh yeah. Yeah, you know, there's nothing better. But but yeah, I was I was home and yeah, I was able to watch it. I didn't plan to watch it, but then I I I had to watch it because it was on like every channel and it was pretty cool. You didn't plan to watch it. No, I actually didn't, and then I like I just turned on the TV and it was obviously a big deal. So now when you watch it, what kind of feelings were evoked? Are you are you are you a man who believes in pushing the final frontier of space?

Speaker 2 13:24

Yeah, I I mean I have great respect for the Sure. Why not?

Speaker 1 13:28

Yeah, I I I was learning about the astronauts before it. They were giving like a little some you know bio of each one, and I I didn't know like who like it was it like this is gonna be sound dumb, but like like it was a NASA approved like I didn't know who was behind it because I I've watched so many like random rocket like over the years, like celebrities that do it and stuff, so I wasn't sure like who was funding it, but but yeah, it was it was NASA. There was one Canadian person, there was three. Yeah, it's gonna be the first Canadian in space. Well, the first one that's going around the moon. I'm sure one Stepway will have to check with us to see if there's been prior Canadians in space. I would say that there probably has been, but the Artemis, it's been years since we've done this type of trip, you know. Yeah, and I was uh we were watching at my house, and my parents were there and Laura's parents, and we were all kind of watching all came for the launch. They all came for the launch, and and also my son's seventh birthday, but yeah, they mostly the launch. And what they uh what my dad was saying, he was like, he's like, I you know, the the video used to be so much better back then. And I don't disagree with them. I thought uh now, Statboy, did you watch the launch?

Speaker 3 14:38

Yeah, actually, I I was coming home from work and I I sat down and my son was sitting down, like staring at this rocket blasting off. I'm like, what the heck? I wasn't even I had no idea this was going on until it actually happened.

Speaker 14:50

I mean, it's 2026 and the cinematography, like it it looked like at one point I thought the rocket was going down.

Speaker 1 14:56

It looked like it was going the wrong direction.

Speaker 3 14:58

Well that's the curvature of the earth and then use the road.

Speaker 1 15:00

Don't give me that science bowl. I listen, we all know it's a flat earth, so you just have to go straight up and then you're gonna be good, right? As long as the earth doesn't flip over like a coin, then you're gonna be safe. That's true. Hasn't done that for a hundred years, then, right? Yeah. Yeah, no, I saw the same thing where it kind of looked like it was I had that same thought. Did you? But I was never like concerned. I was like, I I didn't know if I had to be concerned because then because from the angle that they were showing the picture, it looked like it was just mostly smoke and fire, and I was like, where the hell is the actual shuttle? And you know, I they didn't have I I feel like they would have done something from the broadcast standpoint if something really bad had happened, like they would have cut it off or something, you know. Yeah, they were staying calm, so I was like, all right, everything's on the case.

Speaker 3 15:44

What do you like from what's the one that blew up in 86 or Challenger? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Something really bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:49

So uh you know, if something happened like that, or you know, if if there was a hitch bot situation going on, I think they would really kind of nip that in the bud, right? Yeah. Yeah, hopefully they don't get yeah. Like I remember recently that those two people got stuck up there, too. Butch and Sonny or something. Yeah, yeah. Uh that was their names, I think.

Speaker 16:07

Who got stuck up there?

Speaker 1 16:09

There were like two astronauts that got stuck, but then they Oh, up in the space station. Yeah, that was kind of funny. Yeah, that was bad. They named Butch and Sonny. Sonny, the Sundance Kid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I didn't know I didn't know those were their names, but yeah, it's nice that we send a Canadian into space because I feel like space is going to become much more polite for the next 10 days.

Speaker 3 16:27

Well, actually, yeah, a little stat here involving the Canadians. We had nine Canadians participate in 17 space missions. Wow. And the first one was in 1984 by a name name man named Mark Grunot.

unknown 16:40

Okay.

Speaker 1 16:42

Yeah. Anything more to say about Mr. Greneau, or that's it. Uh just that he's Canadian.

Speaker 3 16:47

He's Canadian.

Speaker 1 16:47

Yeah. First woman was in '92.

Speaker 3 16:50

Robota.

Speaker 1 16:51

Uh-huh. Yeah.

Speaker 3 16:52

Wow. Yeah. There you go.

Speaker 1 16:53

So the so then I'm not totally familiar with what the mission is of Artemis. It it's something they're like flying around the moon or something. Yeah, so they're they're not going on the moon. So they're not going on the moon. Well, you know, I I don't think I don't know if you're allowed to go on the moon right now. It depends on the time of year. And what they're doing, Dan, this is gonna be the first time that we're taking pictures of the far side of the moon. Uh the far side? The far side of the moon, the thing from the Pink Floyd. That uh that the dark side, right?

Speaker 3 17:22

Yeah, so as the Earth rotates, the moon moves in the same rotational like kind of position, and you actually don't see the opposite side of the moon because the moon's always facing the planet.

Speaker 1 17:33

Yeah, so we've we've never seen so we're we're basically like doing a quick like colonoscopy of the moon. Is we're we're gonna go in and be like, all right, what's back here? And we're gonna just kind of sniff around. Who's to say? I mean, this could be the beginning of Independence Day. Remember, are you familiar with the film Independence Day? Yeah. With Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. Yeah. Bill Pullman.

Speaker 2 17:54

Yeah, I know Will Smith was in it.

Speaker 1 17:56

Yeah, the other characters were as well. But yeah, so they those aliens were from the dark side of the moon, I believe. Oh, okay. I actually don't think that's true. But I I don't know. But the beginning of the but but the beginning of the film starts from the dark side of the moon. And you're right, Statboy, I believe that there's an elliptical rotation of the moon around the earth. And it's what, about 230,000 miles between the two? And so it's gonna be about ten days till they get there, and then they're just gonna do a little loop-de-loop. They're gonna look around and take a couple pictures of the moon's private parts and then head back.

Speaker 3 18:28

They're also it's the first time they're allowed to bring their cell phones into space.

Speaker 1 18:32

Yeah, they're gonna tweet and stuff, Dan. Well, I don't think we should probably call them. I mean, do you think we could reach out? Do you have their yeah? Yeah, true, yeah. We should give them a buzz. Yeah, that's all right. See how they're doing. Yeah. I heard there were some technical issues with the latrine already in in uh zero gravity, so that's gotta be tough. With what? With uh how they are relieving themselves. Oh, okay. Yeah, their own bathroom situation. I don't want to get this podcast too crude, Dan. Now I I bring all this up, Dan, not only to confuse you and and put you on the spot, but would you consider if I gave you the opportunity, would you become a space tourist? Would you go into space? Like right like to tonight if I gave you a ticket to the moon. No. You wouldn't go out to space? No. No, you don't like flying that high?

unknown 19:20

Yeah.

Speaker 3 19:21

How about you, Snapboy?

Speaker 1 19:22

Would you go to the moon?

Speaker 3 19:22

Yeah, actually, a lot of uh astronauts are engineers, so I think that's a cool experience.

Speaker 1 19:27

Yeah, it would be a cool experience. I don't know if I would go either.

Speaker 3 19:30

You wouldn't go, it's not that far.

Speaker 1 19:32

I feel like I feel like my fake expertise in orthopedics goes by the wayside. Like your bones don't even matter in space that much, you know what I mean? Like you're just floating.

Speaker 3 19:40

Less joint pressure and forces.

Speaker 1 19:42

Yeah, there's like nothing to do. You just kind of like float around and you become slightly osteopenic as you're just kind of waving in the in the lack of gravity.

Speaker 3 19:52

Interesting.

Speaker 1 19:53

Yeah, no, it's very interesting. Yeah, I I mean I've read a lot of things where like I know people always have amazing like experiences like when they go up to space and then they like just looking down at Earth, like it kind of puts everything in perspective, sort of like it's I think that's true. Yeah, that would be cool. I mean, even even when you're flying like, you know, 40,000 feet, or you know, what you you're a jet setter, Dan, you've been around the world multiple times. You know, when you're up at like 40,000 feet, it's still pretty wild, like looking around, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like you just realize like Yeah, it kind of makes you think like maybe stuff's not as like it's just such a big world, you know. Yeah, I mean it's true, Dan. I think you're really getting into this nice, wonderful existentialism that I was hoping we'd get into. Yeah, yeah. Like what are things? You know, Dan, that's what we really have to break down. Yeah. Like, where are we on this?

Speaker 2 20:45

Would you rather go to the moon or Mars if you had that choice?

Speaker 1 20:48

I think the moon, because I think the Mars trip would be about eight years or so. Stabboy will have to correct me, but based on our current propulsion capabilities, I feel like it's gonna be a long, long time to get there. And when we get there, I don't think there's much different I feel like it's just a like brown, brownish red, like a it's like a Sienna color. It's like a Siena color. I think it's basically a Sienna planet. And you know, brown is in right now, but the moon is more of like a taupey silver and I don't know, white, you know? Yeah. And you know it seems like it seems like Mars has like some great potential. Like they always say like that it has like similarities to the Earth. Whereas the moon kind of is just like like the moon looks cool, but yeah, not much like now Venus is actually closer than Mars, but I think I'm pretty sure Venus has this like noxious gas, gassy kind of atmosphere that would basically like melt our skin. So I I don't think I'm gonna go there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:44

And then what's up with like Pluto? Like when we were growing up, they were always like Pluto's, you know, like part of the part of this crew. Yeah, it's gone. And then they were just like, Oh, by the way, like Pluto's up. Yeah, Pluto got cancelled day.

Speaker 1 21:55

Like, yeah, what did they do? I think essentially there was just there was like the small, like it was kind of like

Speaker 2 22:00

Small buddy at the end of like the line, and then like it just like I mean, are you pro or anti-Pluto?

Speaker 1 22:05

I'm pro Pluto. Like, I don't know. You grew up learning it as a planet. So you always knew it as a planet. And then when it got I didn't know they were just gonna take it away.

Speaker 3 22:14

Yeah.

Speaker 1 22:14

Yeah. I mean unless it did something offensive that I'm not aware of.

Speaker 3 22:18

I think they started learning more about space in general, and they're like, this little thing isn't as big as we thought. There's other things out here.

Speaker 1 22:24

I mean, it got its own name, and Pluto, you know, is a pretty legitimate god, right? Of the underworld. And you know, each of them got like pretty cool gods, and so they're all Roman gods names. Yeah, you're you're familiar with them.

Speaker 2 22:39

They're like the Bash brothers. Yeah, they're just they're like they're the muscle, like they they everyone's kind of looking up to them. And then things got interesting.

Speaker 1 22:46

So you had like Neptune and Uranus and I think it's Uranus, then Neptune. Yeah, that's correct. That's the correct order. And you're kind of like, what's going on out there? Like they're kind of they were all like kind of interesting. They were like blue. I think they're like interesting planets. Don't you find don't you respect planets that have rings around them a bit more too? Don't you think there's a little bit more like Riz with a you know, as the kids would say, you know, if you have a if you have like a ring around your planet. Yeah.

Speaker 3 23:11

Are you guys like it looks a little more like interesting, is a little different. I totally agree. Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:15

I mean, when I think the rings, I always like Saturn had some badass rings. Like, yeah, but I mean, even Jupiter did too. Jupiter's got like a very humble ring, and then Uranus, it's like vertical. They have like it has a vertical ring. Yeah, yeah. Huh. But Pluto, yeah, Pluto's gone. Yeah. Pluto's out. Yeah. Yeah. I don't miss Pluto, to be honest with you. Yeah. You don't think about Pluto sometimes? Pluto's low yield, because I mean it I don't even know if it's done a full revolution since we've been alive, like around the sun. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean the sun is just, you know. Anyone tuning.

Speaker 2 23:47

Thanks to our listeners for listening to this. This is a great conversation.

Speaker 1 23:50

I I think, Dan, you don't care for it much.

Speaker 2 23:54

No, I love it. Like, I'm just like, like, we're like, like, yeah, no, it's it's very good.

Speaker 1 23:58

You don't think they signed up for an astronomy discussion? That's a great incident. Sun's a really good thing. I, you know, every eight minutes it provides some nutrition for us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some people used to worship the sun, Dan.

Speaker 2 24:12

I mean, it is sad. Like, when you don't see the sun for a while and then you see the sun, like it's great, you know?

Speaker 3 24:16

Yeah. Yeah. But go ahead and live in Alaska where you get like a couple hours in a certain time of the year.

Speaker 24:23

We're a pro Sun anti-Plast. I always think about that.

Speaker 1 24:25

We're a pro Sun anti-Pluto podcast, I think, is what we've established.

Speaker 2 24:28

This week. We've had crazy weather this week, and it's been I think like like like today, Thursday it was cold. Like you needed like a jacket, you know?

Speaker 1 24:37

Yep. And then Tuesday and Wednesday it was like sunny and beautiful.

Speaker 2 24:41

And like every like I was in the city for work and like people would like you would have thought people like there's nothing people love more than nice weather. Like you know, like especially the first time.

Speaker 1 24:51

So like everyone was at all the outdoor bars, restaurants, even at lunchtime, like everyone's like out, like just like they're like so happy to like just sit in the sun and like I don't know.

Speaker 2 25:02

I'm just like like I was like I think that's great, but I was also like like the people now like I don't know, like it's like if they I don't know, like like you can definitely like move somewhere where there's like we're not all stuck in Philly, like you could move somewhere there there's some, you know.

Speaker 1 25:17

I just thought kind of had that thought. Yeah, no, I I think I think I'll pick it up with the kind of funny where like people are like, oh my god, like this is paradise, and then I'm like, you know, okay. Well, and it speaks to one thing that I'm a big proponent of Dan is is contrast, right? I think you have to go through the doldrums of January, the glory that is February to then enjoy the the sun of April. And honestly, May, May is like the the crown jewel of nice weather. But you're right. I mean, people in San Diego, it's like ho hum, but I think you become acclimated to it and it becomes less special. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. The best tasting water is the one that is when you're the most thirsty, right? So the the day of sun becomes a bit brighter when you've had a lot of days of darkness, right? Sure.

Speaker 26:03

Yeah. Which brings us back to Easter.

Speaker 1 26:05

You know, he's risen, and so is the sun, and and so is probably the peak amount of listeners to this podcast at this time. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, Easter. So like one thing they did tonight that I just thought of, I mean, we'll circle back to that conversation, but one thing, I don't know if you remember at Holy Thursday Mass, they would like wash the feet of like random people in them in the church. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 26:28

I always thought that I don't know if I've ever got a foot wash during the right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:32

But I was always like, who, who, like, how do they sell it? Like, do they call up parishioners? Like, hey, are you interested in uh doing football? I don't know. I don't know. Or do you sign up for it?

Speaker 26:40

Did you ever get your feet washed, Stab Boy?

Speaker 3 26:42

No. I didn't remember them doing it. It seemed very like they just sprinkled some water and it wasn't really much of a whirlwash.

Speaker 1 26:48

Sometimes I think the Catholic Church gets a little cute during this time of year. I mean, they got the ashes on the forehead, and you're telling me they wash the feet on Holy Thursday, the palms of Palm Sunday, right? Like there's a lot of accessories.

Speaker 3 26:59

Did you guys do passion play?

Speaker 1 27:00

Oh, we did passion play.

Speaker 3 27:02

That was my favorite part.

Speaker 1 27:03

Now, what role did you play? I played one of the apostles. You were an apostle? Yeah, I was one of the apostles.

Speaker 3 27:07

I was like older. Which one? I forget. I was like two or three from Jesus in the center of that.

Speaker 1 27:14

Yeah, that's like a Mark or a Thomas. Yeah, it wasn't any like name. I don't think it was. You weren't like doubt. I feel like it was doubting Thomas. I was trying to be Judas. I was trying to be Judas. Yeah, I mean if it would fit the bill for you. Yeah, we used to do the passion play, and we would do uh you know what I'm mixing that up with. I don't know. No, I think I'm mixing that up with nativity. Yeah, we we did like the Christmas one. Oh. The passion, so so you would do like the killing of Jesus. The crucifixion. We had somebody like on a cross in church, like with fake blood on them. Wait, really?

Speaker 3 27:42

Yeah, we were pretty legit. And we did like four or five of these things. Like we did them a couple times in the week.

Speaker 1 27:48

Oh my god.

Speaker 3 27:48

It was a big deal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:50

We used to do stations of the cross. That was brutal. Oh my god. 14. You do you do like all 14 rounds?

Speaker 2 27:56

I mean, that was like the C squad, like although savers doing it.

Speaker 1 28:00

Yeah, I bet. You got no money and you had to like carry the cross around all night. It was like horrible. It's exhausting. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, that was like a punishment. The single A like threshers and the stations of the cross. That was rough. Yeah, no, I I think this time of year is full of a lot of that. And then you know what's a lot of fun? And I don't even know. You'll have to look this up for me, Statboy. There's the other fun Catholic tradition, like washing of the feet, like you told us. But do you remember like St. Blaze was like the guy for throat? Like and they would do some like weird combo where they'd put like a like a degeneration X of candles around your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd be like, bless your throat. I don't even know what they used to say. They used to say something. And yeah, they would cross the but it was like X Pac.

Speaker 28:44

It looked like it looked like something would just go across your throat.

Speaker 2 28:49

Yeah. The blessing of the throat.

Speaker 1 28:51

Yeah, and that was so weird. It was St. Blaze, yeah. It was St. Blaze. I I I'll never forget it. And I was just like, what are we doing here? And and it was like, yeah, it looked like there is strange. Wasn't that strange? Yeah. Why did we need to get our throats blessed?

Speaker 3 29:06

He was the patron saint of throat ailments. It's like smoking too much, and they were like, I mean, it fixed these throats. But it was weird because it was it was two candles crossed.

Speaker 1 29:15

Like, what were they called? They were not lit for us. I don't know. I mean, at your school, it seems like they're a bit more graphical, a little more hardcore. Yeah, they were the ABC. Yeah, no, I remember that. You do? You remember that? When they would cross the candles, right? And like Yeah, you almost want to like put your hands up. You think they're trying to like fight you or something. I think I felt vulnerable. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 29:37

It was it was a weird situation. And it's a February. Oh really? Is it really? Yeah, it's in February. It's in the third of February.

Speaker 1 29:45

How about? Wait, that's the day after Groundhog's Day. So it's like all the screaming that you do from your your horse from the cheers of Punksitani Phil coming out. Yeah. And then another tradition tonight is folks, I don't know if you ever did this, Jim or Stepwood, but you can like go to different churches like at like late at night. Like it's always three. Like you go to three churches in the area and you could like say a prayer. But like if you went like I don't think we're gonna do it, but like if you went to churches tonight, like they're open and you're gonna see people in there like praying. Oh really? Oh like they like I did it a few times, like because like we I mean, I think I think we just wanted to get out of the house. Like I would go with like my dad and my brother on like in the evening time or like the middle of the night? Yeah, like it's basically like 10 o'clock at night. Like an open house type thing. Yeah, and you could go to like St. Bernadette, St. Dennis. So you like toured the other churches and got to like kind of see. Yeah, you just kind of like pick right three random ones and you just like go in, say a prayer, and like see who's there. It's like a nice away game. You know, you just go interesting.

Speaker 3 30:47

Are they trying to lure you away? Like bring you to a new pattern. Yeah, the open house.

Speaker 1 30:50

Yeah, I mean, I think they would like like the priests would like come out, check kind of check out who's there. Like, how's your feet? Take those shoes off, let me check those puppies right there. Puppies! Look at those puppies. Yeah. Speaking of which, how about March Madness? Wow, finally, we got the sports. How about March Madness, folks? I think the puppies really brings us back. Onions. Man, that the onions of that game.

Speaker 2 31:16

That was the Duke game was crazy.

Speaker 1 31:19

And Dan Hurley like tried to headbutt the ref. Like, that was a good one. Well, apparently he's friends with that ref. I mean, but let's let's paint the picture, Dan. Let's let's let's dial it back. There are what ten odd seconds left in the game. The Duke Blue Devils are up one point. Two points. Two points. They're up two points because the player had missed one of the two free throws. I forget his name. They inbound the ball, the ball then gets passed backwards towards the baseline, and then it gets to the middle of the court, and the younger boozer, is that Cameron? I I forget which boozer, one of the boozer boys attempts to pass it, but it gets blocked. Yeah. During that five odd seconds of those plays, I mean, what what are the Duke folks thinking here? They did not have to do any of that. No, they should have just held the ball and not even tried to pass it. I mean, they should have just, yeah. I mean, I I don't know if there was a better way to try and lose the game than that. I mean, that was like the worst thing you could have done. Yeah. And they had a timeout. Shire had a timeout.

Speaker 32:25

Why did he not use his timeout?

Speaker 2 32:27

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a great shot by the UConn. Like that was a deep three. Like, yeah. So it was a it wasn't a high percentage. Yeah. You know, like it was a hell of a shot.

Speaker 1 32:36

Would you put that where does that rank for you in terms of shots in the NCAA tournament? It's gotta be a top. Yeah, I think it's like top five. Like you know, the Villanova one comes to mind where they won it all. Chris Jenkins with our you know, from Archie. Yep. First Jay Wright championship. And then I always remember the Christian Leitner one when like in the 90s. Yeah. That's always a positive. Because that ball went the whole court in less than like two seconds.

Speaker 3 33:02

And then yeah, he made it like he basically made this move and turned and shot it from like foul line. Yeah.

Speaker 1 33:06

So yeah, that was like what I immediately thought of when I guess because Duke was involved, but obviously it was the opposite. But yeah, I mean, I think it's like top five. I mean, I guess it was you know, it was a lead eight. So yeah, it wasn't like I guess it would have been better if it was Final Four. I mean, it was it was one of the most it was so cool. My son was watching with us. I mean, it was about 7 15, you know, a little past his bedtime, but we were just watching, and and I recall just yelling for the win, and just like it was amazing. I did you think it was gonna go in? I mean, it was one of those magical moments where you're just like, oh yeah, I know. It was I well I didn't know I didn't see it live.

Speaker 2 33:44

I was doing something that day, but I did like I was checking on my phone and like I know Duke was up big. I think they were up 15 at the half, and I think they were up like 20, maybe 19 at the time. So I just thought like I actually had a phone. I talked to my brother on the phone and I was like, like I was like, Yeah, Duke won. Like they were up, yeah. Like I just assumed they won.

Speaker 1 34:02

Like, and then like an hour later, I was like, Oh, by the way, like or I was like, Did you know Duke lost? Like it was like I had no idea. Wait, did did did your brother watch it? He didn't nah, he did not know at the time. Like I I th it was like literally right I yeah, it was like right after the game or something. So he didn't know, but uh but yeah, then we both were like shocked by it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I I tried to explain to young tat that that was you know, that's March Madness. That and it was missing in this tournament, I felt, right, Dan. I mean, it was very chalky in the first two rounds. There weren't many upsets, you know, high point had their thing, they did their thing. Unfortunately, due to my father Springer, we did not get a chance to really recap a lot of the tournament, but I felt like it was a majority of kind of chalk for the first two rounds, and then we started getting great matchups, don't get me wrong, but it seemed like most of the games were you know basically kind of done. I mean, there were a couple close games at the end. I think St. John's had a nice win against who did they beat in the last moments? St. Kansas, Kansas, yeah. Kansas, like they they did the yeah, that was a good game. They did that game-winning layup. Yeah, it was you know who that was actually this like uh the like a it was like a last second layup, right? Yeah. Do you remember there was an Eagles player named James Darling, who I like sort of remember, but it was his son, yeah.

Speaker 2 35:20

Oh yeah, he was like a former like yeah, back oak Eagles linebacker. That's awesome. It was his son, yeah. So that was a great shot. And they almost beat Duke St. John's, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking to one of our listeners, Pete. We had a great conversation about like just college basketball coaches.

Speaker 1 35:38

Like, they're there's so many like characters, you know, like Petino. I mean, Patino wears the full suit, like he looks like Dan Hurley's obviously like a crazy person, but great coach.

Speaker 2 35:50

And yeah, there are just so many like interesting college basketball coaches.

Speaker 1 35:54

Yeah, no, I I couldn't agree with you more. Like, I love Izzo at Michigan State. And I feel like Petino is just I I'll I think of Al Pacino just because of the name itself. I'm like, he just looks like him. And I feel like he just puts on that white suit and he's like, ooh, ah! He's just very excited. Well, whereas, you know, you get Izzo, right? Izzo is much more of like, I don't know, he's like an angry Uncle Buck, right? He's like just always there for you. He's but he's uh he's been on that bench since I looked at like I was 20, what, 25 years or something? He I know he's he's been an assistant coach at since like since 1983 at Michigan State. So you know, very long. And then he became the coach, like I think 90, and then sometime in the early 90s. And I'm pretty sure, and and Statboy can correct me if I'm wrong, but Michigan State was the last Big Ten school to win it all, right? Or did did Michigan win one? I don't think so. I think Michigan State was the last Big Ten school, and I think it was with Izzo in like oh one or oh two. Ah, okay. So there's been this big drought. I mean, it's crazy. Like absolutely bonkers. So then this year, so Illinois could Illinois could do it, Michigan could do it. Yeah, and if those two, I don't think they're playing each other, are they? No. Yeah, so that could you could have an all Big Ten final. Yeah. And I'm not like super I don't have a huge allegiance to the Big Ten. I just want to see good basketball. But I think I think that game, Dan, UConn Duke, gave a little bit of that magic you need in in March, right? That's part of the magic. Yeah, yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, yeah. It was yeah. I mean, I'm rooting for Arizona, so we'll see. But that's your pick. Your pick is still alive. Yeah. Now, unfortunately, our beloved sound off participant, Texas, did not make you know what they made it further than I thought they would. Yeah. They almost made it to the Elite Eight. I mean, they they probably could have. Because they beat Gonzaga, right? They beat Gonzaga, they got to the sweet 16, and then they lost to We were watching that together, remember? Who yeah. Who did who did Texas lose to?

Speaker 37:52

I can't.

Speaker 1 37:53

We lost to It was close.

Speaker 37:56

It was close.

Speaker 1 37:57

Not Arizona, Purdue, that's right. Lost by two. Okay. Yeah. So our final four, Dan, are Michigan, Illinois, Arizona, Arizona, and Yukon. And Yukon. Yeah. So Yukon versus Illinois, Michigan versus Arizona. So we have a Hustle. Sardy, a wildcat, a Alini? Fighting. And a fighting alini. And a Wolverine. Wolverine. Now we should mention the women's too. The final four because I I was I'm like following the women's bracket. Yeah, hey. It's all the number one seeds. So it's UCLA, okay. Husky again. Yeah. So we're going double husky. Yukon's undefeated. Double Husky. They're like 36 and 0 or something. Yeah, yeah. They're they I've heard they're pretty good. Texas is good too. So you see Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Yukon's playing South Carolina. Gamecock. Okay. Don Staley catched. And then Texas Longhorn are playing UCLA. So we've got a Longhorn, a Gamecock, a Husky, and a Bruin. Yeah. And the women's. And then we've got whatever I said last time, I can't remember. Wildcat, Wolverine, Fighting Alionine, and Husky. Yeah. We have Huskies in both. So you got you got double Husky. So would you rather play a fighting allianni or a gamecock? Like that like what would the Husky write? I I don't I don't really know the size of a game cock, but I'm assuming it's basically some sort of foul, like a type of bird that you know, and and you know how I feel about birds other than our beloved eagles, right? I mean, they're I mean, the whole concept of birds being in basketball is kind of funny. And there's so many of them. I feel like bird and cat are the two most common, and stat boy can check, but like the mascots of Division I basketball, there's just a ton of them, right? Yeah. You have your occasional billican or you know, other things, but it's really like birds and cats. I would not want to take on a fighting alliani. I think that would be tough. Yeah. That's just like a like what is that? That's a I think it's a crazy person. It's a it's no billion. No, it's it's a first, it's a f nowadays, Dan, it's 2026. We call them first people, right? The first people on that populated America. And you know, depending where you stand on citizens' birthright, you know, one would argue they're the first Americans. But I'm not going to go down that lane just yet. But And they were the ones that beat the Penn Quakers in the first round, the thing that's right.

Speaker 2 40:27

And I don't think is it Stoyakovich's son? Yeah, that's a great point.

Speaker 1 40:32

And I think this I think this brings this brings up uh to go back to your existential thoughts about what are things, we're starting to reach an age in our lives, Dan, where we're watching the players that we grew up with, their sons play. Yeah. You know, it's tough, right? There's Boozer, there's the Boozer offspring, there's Stoyakovich, Bronny Jr. Actually, LeBron James's other son is, I think a wildcat, right? A wildcat. He sits on the bench. Oh, really? I don't think he he sits on the bench. Hmm. But that's okay, Dan. Yeah, that's on the bench. You know, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's on the bench. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know he was on there. Yeah, that's yeah. It's good to be, I mean, it's better to be on the bench than off the bench. But I I think that's cool that we're watching the the former players' sons play. Yeah. I mean, it's it I I'm just saying it it could be Does it make you like uh look at the son and say what are things or what it does, and it makes me think, you know, when I maybe your son will be out there sometime. It's possible. You're a great athlete. I I like to think that there's a chance or your daughter might be in the women's bracket. I I hope I I hope that she's a wildcat or a husky and and she gets the opportunity. Yeah, but you know, back in the day, you know, Pluto was a planet, and I watched Carlos Boozer play and and Paja Stoyakovich and things have changed. And Lance Carl Crawford, I saw him lose, and you know, now his son. He had a game winner yesterday. His son's part of our fight in Phil's, you know, and so it's I find it very interesting, Dan, that the there's this cycle of life, this renewal that's going on right now. Yeah. You know, feet are being washed, Siena planets are being contemplated, and you know, a lot of cool things going on.

Speaker 2 42:16

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we have sports, we have uh March sports.

Speaker 1 42:20

We have March Madden. We have the Phillies have been around, you know, they tell me about the Phillies, Dan. How are you feeling this year? We're three and two, three, four and two. We we took two and three. Oh, we took two and three and we lost two. So we're three and three, yeah. Four losses and three wins? Yeah, we're three and three. We're three and three, yeah. We lost a series and we won a series. Two games back of Marlins. The Marlins. Miami Marlins. Who had what 6,500 fans in their Marlins had like a cupcake schedule. They played the city. I mean, we played the Rockies and Nationals, Dan. Yeah, but I think the Marlins played like the White Sox and the Rocky. Like literally the two worst teams. White Sox and the Who? The Rockies, the Rockies, yeah.

Speaker 2 43:04

And we play the Rockies. Maybe Andrew will go to one of the games and that would be fun. Yeah, I went to a game with him once.

Speaker 1 43:10

I hope he could just get on his horse and just draw us a picture of it. Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 43:14

That was where the guy said, excuse me, and I said thank you. I had a Rockies game.

Speaker 1 43:18

I had a Rockies game. Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 3 43:19

I really hope that uh is it Andrew and Jesse the Body. Like painfully polite. Yeah. I mean, out of this the early part of the season, it seems like we have a lot of rookies doing well, and I'm really hoping that if we do go see our friend Andrew, that we see him all Andrew Painter, his pitching.

Speaker 1 43:34

Yeah, what did you think, Stat Boy? I did what did you think of his phenomenal?

Speaker 3 43:38

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he he did so he he was he was pitching on the mound. He wasn't just throwing hard, he was actually like sequencing really well. He was finding ways to to set up some pitches for himself. So I think when he went out there, he had the confidence on the mound, which what you want to see. This guy has the stuff to be like a Philly for 14, 15 years. He wow. If he stays healthy, uh he can't. Be one of those cornerstone guys. It could be like Cole Hammels for us back in the day. Cole Hammels. I'm saying he has that kind of capability. So the next the previous one would be Nola, right? Arguably the Nola was the last guy we drafted that like stayed farm produced. Yeah. I think we missed a lot of his good years because we were kind of rebuilding in that that phase. Now he's kind of tailing off towards his back end.

Speaker 2 44:22

But yeah. Does Painter have like heat, or is he more like I know he he has like an arsenal of pitches, right? Yeah, he has some velocity.

Speaker 3 44:30

He's he's got decent velocity. I mean, he had a he had a lot of velocity when he was younger, but then he got hurt. So he's still building that back. But he's got a good pitch pitch mix. He's beyond his years when he's on the mound. He he knows how to pitch. A lot of young guys, they really rely on the stuff to win games for them. This guy, he knows how to come after the battery. Command the game. Command the game and come after the battery.

Speaker 1 44:51

You're you're arguing pitcher versus thrower type of situation. Very much. You know, someone who just uh tries to overthrow out throw versus out pitch, you know, the Jamie Moyers versus the Randy Johnsons, if you will. Yeah. He's tall too, right? How tall is Painter? How tall is Painter? I'm gonna say he is six foot five. I think he's like six seven. Six seven. Six seven. I don't know. Six seven is correct. Oh really? Six seven. My God. I and you know, I wanted to bring this up, Dan, and I think I thank you for getting us on to the Phil's Andrew Painter. I mean, it it sounds like our other Andrew, right? Someone who but uh what I what I wanted to bring up is that I feel like Major League Baseball players have very like esoteric names, right? You know, there's some great names out there. It almost seems like you have to name your kids in a way that will allow them to become major league baseball stars, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 45:47

You gotta really worry about it when they're born.

Speaker 1 45:48

Yeah, there are not a lot of like Bill Smiths or Joe, you know, Joe Donnellys that are like amazing, all due respect to all Joe Donnelly's and Bill Smiths in the world, but they're not like being major. It's like smooky bets. It's Mookie Betts, it's Coco Crisp, it's you know, it's Roman Anthony, right? Like, you know, just reversing one of our best friends' names, and that becomes a major league. It's a great one. So like I I really do feel, and and having you know reached fatherhood the third time, I I probably haven't named my children in a way, not that I'm gonna dox them, but I don't think I named them in a major league way. Like, you need like we should workshop because Nugent's a great last name. Yeah. It might be your last name. I'm not saying it is, but if it was, you know, I think we got to think of like a good first name. Like, what would you name your son, your hypothetical future son, to become an all-star pitcher, not hitter, because I think it's two very different things.

Speaker 2 46:48

Yeah, I'd have to think.

Speaker 1 46:49

I mean, you could do like the double, like no and tricky. I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking you gotta go double end like Nixon Nugent or like Neil Nugent. Like Neil Nugent could be a guy who's like batting 320 in into the all-star break and has like 80, like 80 RBIs. Yeah. What do you think? He'd probably wear like goggles or something, Neil Nugent. He'd probably have like a weird batting third. No one would wear like sunglasses.

Speaker 3 47:17

No one would be pretty sweet. Yeah, I I mean, I clearly did this with my children. I think so. Yeah, I mean was thinking of these cool names, nicknames, and stuff that would be like, oh, they'd be sound really neat.

Speaker 1 47:27

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um someone who, you know, is a Mason or a Colton or one of those names would really.

Speaker 3 47:36

Oh, you would shorten it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You gotta go short. Yeah, Colt. Little Colt.

Speaker 1 47:39

Colt would be good. Yeah. No, like it's right, it's true. Like you almost think that they like changed their name once they knew they were gonna become a it feels that way because some of the best names in baseball.

Speaker 3 47:51

It's part of the it's part of the persona on the on the field.

Speaker 1 47:53

Well, you can't have too much edge, right? Because if you have too much edge, you end up being a lacrosse player, right? Because if you go into like the Blazes or the Brysons or the Chads, the Chad Chads. Oh, so many Chads. Giga Chads. Giga Chads, like Mega Chad, like the Chads, the Brads, the Vlads, you know, those are all big time and they're all the sons, right? Like Bryson, Gason, Tayson. Like Taysom Hill, actually. Taysom Hill is one of my favorite fantasy football players. Like that's that's a center fielder for the Royals, right? Shack Taysom Hill.

Speaker 3 48:27

Shackford. Who's that? That there's a lacrosse player, Hopkins called Shackford. Shackford, yeah.

Speaker 1 48:33

See, that's just so Brickman. I mean, it's just oozes while Dallas. Yeah. I mean, it's just the wasps are flying out there, Dan. I mean, it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 48:43

There's one name in California called Lizza Banks. That's the first name, Lizabanks.

Speaker 48:48

Lizabanks?

Speaker 3 48:48

Yeah. Is that a male?

Speaker 1 48:50

Mustang? Mustang? That's a car. I mean Johnny Damon. That was like a cool name. That's a sweet name, too. But don't you think there are like there are I think there are many names that can be sports stars, but only a few of them can actually be Major League baseball players. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did you have like a favorite baseball player growing up? Like even like non-philly, like was that like I mean my brother kind of did have like we each had like one guy that we like loved. Who was my name? Who was yours? Mine was Mark McGuire. Mark McGuire, yeah. I like loved Mark McGuire. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I it's good that you enjoy cheating. Yeah, that's great. I mean, I was sad when that. And then my I mean yeah, actually, our kindergarten teacher was named Miss McGuire. Do you remember? She was, shout out. I had this imagination that she was married to Mark Maguire at the time. Did you really? Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2 49:42

And I was always like, This, you know, life makes sense to me.

Speaker 49:45

Like I was like, You know, it's funny, your world's that small.

Speaker 1 49:48

I feel like you do just you're just like, yeah. I mean, I guess that they're definitely dating at least. Yeah. But yeah, I loved Mark Maguire, and my brother loved Frank Thomas. He was like awesome. That's a great nerd. Yeah. The big neighbor who we were friends with. He loved Ken Griffey Jr. So yeah, Ken Griffey Jr. would be up there for me. I was a big Ichiro fan. I loved Ichiro growing up. I'm trying to think who else. I don't know. There's Kenny Lofton. I mean, that A's team was cool because they had Ricky Henderson, who was like the speed student. He was awesome. And then Kenseiko was on that team and McGuire. McGuire was. Ruben Chiam. He wasn't on their team, but eventually he turned into their Giombi brothers. Yeah. The Indians had like Kenny Lofton and Albert Bell. Justice guys. I uh Dave Justice. I don't want to push Fred McGriff. I don't want to go on forever. Yeah, they're I don't want to dig too deep into a future episode, but Bo Jackson was one of the greatest players to ever watch in both sports. We were a little on the young side, but keep that in mind for later. Yeah, yeah, that's huge. So we got a little tickle. Little foreshadowing. Little foreshadowing tickle there, Dan. Yeah.

Speaker 2 50:59

Yeah, Bo Jackson. I I had this conversation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 51:02

Like one I was talking to my I keep bringing out my brother, but we were shout out. I think we were talking about Michael Vick. And I was just thinking like how Michael Vick was like such a great athlete. And like I was thinking of who were some of the best athletes. And like Vic came to this, it's based on like no research or anything, but like Vic, who else? Bo Jackson, like you said. Sorry, I'd bring and then Deion Sanders too.

Speaker 3 51:23

Yep, sure.

Speaker 1 51:24

So like I don't know. I just thought they were like three of the and I guess we were talking about someone else like trying to put them in that same.

Speaker 3 51:29

What about Michael Jordan? He played basketball and baseball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 51:32

Yeah, but to me Jordan for the Barons. It's kind of like a weird, like I don't know like what I'm saying, like to measure athleticism, but they I just they just seemed like so there was something there was like the eye test. Like they were just amazing to see. Well, we all know the the true mark of athleticism is how high you can jump, right? That's the most important factor. Like how far you can get yourself from Earth, you know.

Speaker 3 51:52

I thought you you told me in NCAA you really pursued people's mascot capability as the highest priority.

Speaker 1 52:00

That's in like ranking teams only. Yeah, that's just rank. But I mean like individual athletes, it's pretty much like how far can you separate yourself from planet Earth? You know, non-Artemis style, I think is the most important thing. Don't you think?

Speaker 3 52:13

Dan thinks hand size is the most important.

Speaker 1 52:15

You think hand size? You talked about it. Electric hox. Yeah. I think thigh width is a really cool one. I mean hand length, ankle diameter, ankle diameter is a good one. Yeah, toe length. I think forehead length is key to a great quarterback, right? Shout out to the Mannings, right? You know, just big foreheads make a I think your brain has to be a certain size. Hair growth.

Speaker 3 52:37

Yeah, I think hair growth is a big thing. Yeah. You got a lot of hair, you got a lot of testosterone, you got a lot of like, you know. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I think that's possible. Like Lane Johnson.

Speaker 1 52:48

This guy's got a lot of hair. This guy got a draft. Well, speaking of which, actually, we should briefly say that we we did resign our Johnson. We have Johnson and Johnson for one more year.

Speaker 2 52:59

Yeah, yeah. Fred's coming back.

Speaker 1 53:01

Yeah, I do think you want to have you always want to have a big Johnson on your team. Because if you don't have a big Johnson, and you do and well, the key is you want to have a swinging Johnson, right? The swinging, the Johnson that can swing onto the other side, could go right to left, left to right, right, and always can be you can always plug him in the middle if you need to, but you want to be able to swing back and forth. Yeah. Don't you think, Dan?

Speaker 2 53:27

Yeah, you want an active Johnson. You want an active Johnson. You could get Dorman and not good.

Speaker 1 53:33

Yeah, and if one of your Johnsons gets injured, you got to be able to throw Johnson right back out there. Similar size Johnson.

Speaker 2 53:39

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we'll we'll have another fall Eagles season to talk.

Speaker 1 53:45

But yeah, Eagles news, they've they've been made, they made like a few random signings, like of random guys. Elijah Moore, the wide receiver. Apparently he's like boys with AJ Brown. Yeah, that's good. That was interesting. Yeah, from Mississippi State, right? Or Ole Miss. They were both. They were both rebels. Yeah. Elijah Moore. The Eagles clearly have a strategy where they sign these guys that were like former like high picks, like first, second round picks that have underperformed. Yeah. I like that strategy because it's like maybe they just had a bad situation. I feel like it's worth sometimes it works. I was gonna say it's a bit of a coin flip, right? I we I've been fooled by it. Like sometimes I'm like, yeah, this guy like uh just walks. Well, I mean you think about the dream team back in like what 2013 when you know we we signed all of those type of players and like awesome wall, and then Vince Young came in and he's like, We're the dream team. They're like everyone's like, Shut the hell up, Vince. Yeah, it was awful. Yeah, yeah, we'll have the draft coming up, yeah, a few weeks, right? I'm I'm I'm on I'm digging deep into this draft, Dan. I will have I will have a lot of draft thoughts after the draft to preview. So after the draft, I'll tell you why we should have drafted who we drafted. Now, actually, Stapboy and I famously, like we always have a good back and forth, and we both always kind of find similar players that we love that we demand the Eagles get, and they almost never get the players we want.

Speaker 3 55:09

Yeah, they kind of go the opposite of what we're it's a shame.

Speaker 1 55:11

Like I remember when Justin Jefferson fell to us, I was like, we got Justin Jefferson. I got so excited, and then it was just over. And then the same thing you loved um the the Baltimore Ravens, the cheating. Kyle Hamilton. But yeah, no, that team is deplorable. We shouldn't even bring them up. But you know, back in that back then they didn't cheat as much, Dan. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Their announcer just like retired too. I won't be able to do that. Probably in this name in infamy, right? Yeah. Because he he probably was disgusted with the way the team has been, right? Yeah, just despicable. And despicable.

Speaker 2 55:44

Yeah. But yeah, that'll be but yeah, I don't think there's anything like real Oh that they had the owners' meeting, so Jeffrey Laurie spoke this week. Yeah, he did. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 55:52

He gives like a state of the union of the Eagles. It's he takes a lot of things.

Speaker 55:55

Well, he vouched for Hertz.

Speaker 1 55:57

I mean, I felt yeah, very I thought that was pretty interesting. And he also showered a lot of praise on Sirianni. Like it didn't seem to me like and I don't know how much of it you kind of watched, I just kind of listened to a couple of folks kind of break it down. Yeah. Lori seems pretty happy with who he's selected to kind of lead things. Yeah. And I I feel like the leash is long for both parties, right? Yeah. For both the head coach and but then did you see that article that just came out with Tim McManus? Yep. That's what did you think about that?

Speaker 3 56:28

I feel like that's where we're going. It's like if uh so the news was that the Eagles won't extend Hertz in this offseason. Uh how do you feel about that? I think that's probably wise. So do we do we get the Mormon missile ready to launch? No, I think we trade him.

Speaker 1 56:45

Where are we gonna trade him to? The moon? The Jets. Jets. Uh it's possible, yeah, sure. They'll give us whatever. Yeah. But how do you feel about that, Dan? It it's it's not a I don't think it's a vote of no confidence, but it's definitely it's a motivator. Yeah. Yeah, I think I did watch the Lori press conference. It was it was good and worth a lesson. He he did speak extremely highly of he said there's no bigger fan of Jalen Hurts than him. So he's but he's not gonna extend his cover too. He didn't talk about that. Yeah. Like he just he didn't want to talk about it. And then yeah, the high praise for Siriani, like you said. High praise for Sean Mannion. Like he just like Yeah, it's almost getting annoying because these people are like Sean Mannion. Like you would think like they're like in love with the guy. Like I mean, we like Mannion. I mean, you know, I But they're like these people need to like calm down and keep their pants on. We all as a as a podcast, we all went to that playoff game. I mean, we had a wonderful time for about eight minutes, and then the game kind of just fell apart. But I did not leave the stadium being like, all right, Patul's gotta go, let's go get let's go get our manion, right? Like nobody thought of Sean Mannion as as a possibility. I mean, it's not his fault. Like, like I'm excited for him. Like, you know, it's just like people are just being very exuberant about him. I think they're putting a lot on his plate, dude. They're asking him to become like the next McVeigh, the way they're talking about him. And and certainly he's he's McVeigh adjacent and as part of that tree, but I don't know, man. That tree has been shaken for a while. I don't know if there's much more fruit left on it.

Speaker 2 58:19

Yeah. And like he has to let's just he hasn't called plays yet. Like he hasn't called plays yet.

Speaker 1 58:24

He has to prove I mean I I have high optimism for him, but but yeah, he let's let's give it some time here. Yeah, he's gotta get his feet washed here. He's gotta get ready. I mean, he's gotta get it, he's gotta get his throat blessed before we can really say he's he's the man, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you gotta blaze him. And then they also asked about so it was interesting in that press conference, they asked about Jalen Carter.

Speaker 2 58:45

So at first they at first the reporter said, So what do you think of Jalen? He was he kept saying Jalen and and Lori was kind of like playing it cool, like he was kind of like and then he like they were like, Well, how was Jalen's season? He was and he just said good.

Speaker 1 58:59

Like it was kind of like not Well, he doesn't want to pay that Jalen, yeah. And it's the Jalen, it's the Jalen. Jalen King. But then they re that so then like they were like, Well, what about Jalen Hurts? And he was like or they yeah, like somehow they can he was like, Wait, I was just talking about Jalen Carter, not Jalen Hurts. And then like he like made it very clear. The classic Jalen mix up. He wasn't he wasn't like high praise for Jalen Carter.

Speaker 3 59:21

Like if I read through the lines correctly, like I don't think I think there's some skepticism about something with don't you think that's gamesmanship though? Because he's going into his contract. You know, like there's organizations that play those games, I don't think the Eagles usually do. So like when they start trending that way, it feels like something's different. It to me it read like And there was reports about Carter potentially being on the trading block. Yeah. I I don't know if I ever believe that. He's such a great thing.

Speaker 1 59:47

I think they just want to see more. Like they I don't think they were thrilled with his season this past season. Or his behavior. I think I mean I'd start the season off like shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 59:55

Yeah, he's spit, yeah, he's spit on deck.

Speaker 1 59:57

Exactly. I think they want to see a little bit more domination before they give him the big bag. Yeah, like less saliva. But I love Jaden. I mean, I I would I love Jaden Carter. I think that's a good thing. I couldn't agree with you more. You don't find players like that. He's uh he's like a level he he plays like Albert Hainsworth, but he's had more of an impact, you know, same kind of like just mad man, just disruptor. He had a tough year last year. We can't deny that. I mean, he had bad shoulder pain. I mean, that's that's gonna be tough on a D lineman. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's exciting. I I think we've got a very exciting time. The Phills are filling, the March Madness, the fours are finaling.

Speaker 3 1:00:38

The Liars are trying to make a push to the playoffs. I don't know where they finished tonight, but Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:00:43

Yeah. Red Wings, but yeah, Flyers, Sixers, Frisky, and actually the Sixers are sixering, but we'll see. Yeah. But I think we've got a lot to be excited for and a lot to talk about in the future here. Speaking of which, do we have any any folks? Uh you know what we should we should actually shout out is one of our most beloved listeners is uh abroad. Yeah. And I think we should try and reach out to him to get his his take on the situation down south.

Speaker 2 1:01:11

Yeah. Yeah, he did say he would be busy if we tried to call, but well, it doesn't mean we can't try to call him.

Speaker 1 1:01:17

That's right. We don't take no for an answer. What do you think, Statboy? I think. All right, let's see what happens. I think we should leave a voicemail. Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:01:26

Hello, you reached Nick Custodian.

Speaker 3 1:01:28

Oh, the second He gave us the FU button. All right.

Speaker 1:01:33

The mailbox is full and cannot affect.

Speaker 3 1:01:35

Oh, come on. Just leave your mailbox.

Speaker 1 1:01:38

You can't even leave a message. I mean, I that's terrible. I mean, he might be getting hitch botted right now. We gotta be very careful. Shout out prayers to Turtle. He's in South America, right? He's in Peru right now. He was our Peruvian correspondent, so that's a little disappointing, but that's all right. Dead to us. I mean, I don't know why you let him out of his base the basement. Now he he went to South America. Yeah, he got far away. Yeah. What do you think he's doing right now? Who knows? Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:04

I mean, one thing about Turtle, he he likes to plan.

Speaker 1 1:02:07

He did he spoke to a Peruvian person before the trip. So that's good. There he knew a person that like it was like a friend of a friend. Yeah. Yeah. And uh and Turtle's the type of guy, and and God bless him, bless his heart, you know, is what I would say right now. But he he's the type of guy who would very easily, I mean the man is full of social lubrication. I mean, he will go anywhere under any guise. Like, I could tell him that my third cousin has has a like a spare bedroom in you know Kentucky, and he'd be like, All right, cool, great. And he'll just like drive over there, be like, Oh, you know Jim. And then like he would just but the thing is like everybody would let him in because he's just he can work through any crowd. Yeah, he he has a future in politics, I really think so. Yeah, and people remember him. Like I used to walk around with him at Penn State, and like people would always be like, Hey Turtle, how you doing?

Speaker 2 1:03:00

And I I would say, like, who was you know, who was that? And he was like, Oh, he was like, I have no idea like they like were so excited to be.

Speaker 1 1:03:09

I think he'd be a good travel compatriot. Have you ever traveled distances with Turtle? Yeah, I went to Ireland with Turtle, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:03:16

How did it go? Penn State football game. Yeah, it was great, yeah. I mean, you know, Scott was there too. It was a great trip. Computer science. Yeah, it was like a Penn State football. There were other Penn State people too. Yeah, Turtle drove the whole time.

Speaker 1 1:03:29

He like he ran in the car, stick shift, right side of the road. How'd you feel about it? He loved it. I mean, there's something about the left side of the road, the opposite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I meant or sorry, I meant left or right? Yeah, yeah, you're right. In Peru? In Peru, yeah. Check Peru, but Ireland, it's the opposite side of the road. But yeah, so like we drew Turtle was like zipping around the rings of Ring of Kurry, right?

Speaker 2 1:03:52

Yeah, like it was I mean, it was crazy. Yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 1 1:03:56

Yeah, it I I would love to do. I thought we were gonna get stuck. Like I thought we were gonna be like sleeping in the ring of curry. Because like I thought our car was just gonna like like the way he was driving. But what no, he didn't.

Speaker 1:04:08

Do they drive cars in Peru? Yeah, on the right side. On the right side?

Speaker 1 1:04:12

Yeah, and they're also at Central Time, is what we found out. Central time. So so he should be able to answer. That's surprising.

Speaker 2 1:04:18

He's there for like a soccer, like there's a soccer game?

Speaker 1 1:04:21

I think so. Or or maybe he's part of some guerrilla takeover of the country. I I even Googled.

Speaker 2 1:04:26

I was like, is USA like playing Peru? And like they're not? So what does he do?

Speaker 1 1:04:31

I'll be honest, I don't even know what that's what he's talking about.

Speaker 1:04:34

I mean, he's our he's our travel correspondent.

Speaker 1 1:04:37

Yeah, all right. We'll have to get him back on the podcast when he do you think he's gonna make it back? No. I mean, parts of him, parts of him might come back in in a ransom.

Speaker 1:04:46

And I mean, how much would you pay for uh I think within the podcast here, I would pay a good amount of money. Bronze medals, would you?

Speaker 1 1:04:53

I would give eight bronze medals to get turtle. That's a significant amount of bronze medals. Yeah, yeah. So turtle's been to Mexico, he's been to Costa Rica, he's been to Honduras. Like he kind of like ventures down south.

Speaker 3 1:05:04

Yeah, he's like I was thinking, was he the furthest traveled southern Zulu Tortuga? I think our Dr. Moores has been to South Africa, which is has he?

Speaker 1 1:05:13

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05:13

Wow, shout out Dr.

Speaker 1 1:05:14

Green. I don't has anybody been to Australia? I've never been to Australia. I think uh Pedro, no, he hasn't. He's flirted with it. He's he might be the one who's traveled the most in the world. Most in the States, probably. Yeah, Walmart Pete, yeah. Shout out. Didn't did uh Mikey ever go to Argentina at all? He went to Brazil. Yeah, I don't know if he went Argentina's pretty south too. Yeah, yeah. Or Chile. Yeah.

Speaker 1:05:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:05:41

Yeah. He might be. But yeah, he's dead to us now, Turtle, because he didn't answer.

Speaker 1:05:46

But all right, let's go to our sound off. Uh do you have does did Slayer sound off at all?

Speaker 3 1:05:51

I think she doesn't have anything from the meme standpoint, but I think she had something on her Twitter handle that she slayer sound off. I think Dan's like No.

Speaker 2 1:06:00

I think she mentioned Oh yeah, we did. Yeah. We got like so many Twitter things.

Speaker 1:06:05

I mean, what when we miss a week, it's like I didn't even see I think you guys sifted through hundreds of emails while I was away.

Speaker 1 1:06:10

So just you know, get uh we gotta distill the espresso, the fine. All right, so she said this is a tweet. Okay. Dov Kleeman. I've seen him eat he's good or you know, sometimes he's good, sometimes he's bad.

Speaker 1:06:22

But it's what are you saying right now? I'm not I don't understand the word.

Speaker 1 1:06:25

Some NFL analyst Dov Kleeman. Okay. So I I kind of had like mixed reaction when I first saw that. Oh, okay, yeah. I thought you were talking about some sort of Dutchman that's tweeted. Dov Kleeman. But no, this is part of the Slayer sound off. Yeah, it's a the NFL owners approved a one-year rule change to allow the officiating department to correct clear and obvious misses made by on-field officials that impact the game in the event of a work stoppage involving NFL officials. Is that one sentence? What did I just read? Yeah, so yeah, that's tough. It sounds like if it's what is clear it up. Is her tweet complete? Is that yeah, she was just noting that tweet complete massive rule change. Tweet pleat. This is big because there is a chance we're gonna have replacement refs next year. Yeah. And so the idea is that this eye in the sky big brother New York thing would be able to correct things. It's a mess, right? I mean, the NFL makes millions upon maybe even billions of dollars. Billions. Billions of dollars cash, green, green cash. But what I find is that they don't have enough money.

Speaker 1:07:31

Like, they're talking about what, a couple million dollars to pay a couple of zebras to stay on the field? Like, let's pay our reps. Night pinch pennies. I mean, especially because you know the NFL is so very much aligned with the gambling, right? Like, if you can't if you can't control the integrity of the game, and I think that's why uh this the flying Dutchman, what was his name?

Speaker 1 1:07:52

Don Don Creeman.

Speaker 3 1:07:55

Man, you just mentioned Freeman.

Speaker 1:07:58

Dolph Longren when he was telling everyone about this. I think they that's like their insurance clause because DraftKings is gonna hitchbot their asses if they don't, you know, if they don't take care of business.

Speaker 1 1:08:09

I mean, it's over.

Speaker 5 1:08:11

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:08:11

Yeah, I just think it's like the common thing in business now is they're always looking for a way to make more money with serving the same stuff. So if you can get cheaper refs or less refs, just like taxi industry is taken over by Uber drivers, and then it turns into Waymo. Turns into Waymo, and then now you got AIs taking people's white-collar jobs. Like, it's just natural. NFL is just trying to find a way to cut out more people and save more money.

Speaker 1 1:08:36

I like it. I mean, this is a great old man yelling at clowns that nothing's the way it should be anymore.

Speaker 3 1:08:42

I mean, in baseball, we haven't gotten into this, and we'll certainly in the future, but the new the new uh system that checks balls and strikes, and there's so many. There's like one umpire that made like two consecutive strike calls wrong and they got called out on it, and the crowd goes wild. I don't know if anybody's been to a game yet. Have you been to a game yet? No. Apparently, like people are loving it. It's like a new experience.

Speaker 1 1:09:02

I mean, it reminds me of like Russell Crowe in Glad Right, or or rather the Emperor.

Speaker 3 1:09:06

It's like the thumb going to the side, and then it just goes up or down, and everyone's like, Yeah, because it goes on the scoreboard and you see the pitch come in, you see like the tail, and then you see it hit, and then you're like, is it in or out? And they zoom in, and you can see if it like clips the zone or not, and it comes in.

Speaker 1 1:09:19

Because they do it in they do it in FIFA and they do it in tennis, and now it's in baseball. I mean, they gotta start doing this in regular life, right? Like, I should be able to walk down the street and like you know, I I should be able to make a statement like, you know, dogs my favorite dog is Benji the wolf, and then someone can be like, check that.

Speaker 3 1:09:39

And they're like, No, you want us to last you literally want stat boys running around next to you all the time?

Speaker 1 1:09:43

I mean, you're essentially to the podcast, you are our ABS system, and it's been quite nice, but it's cool. Like, I wish there was an immediate feedback to like know that someone's just bullshitting you the whole time.

unknown 1:09:56

Right?

Speaker 1 1:09:57

No, it's not actually, yeah. When I was in Ireland with Turtle, I'll call this story real quick. They they uh Turtle. We would go to the bar to watch uh what is it, uh Gaelic football? It's called it's it's hugely. It's like basically their college football, and uh it's like Irish football. I guess it has multiple names, and like every time there was a close call, they would all yell Hawkeye.

Speaker 2 1:10:18

Like it they all these I think Hawkeye, Hawkeye, and then like we were just like a guy from Iowa comes down. Every time there was a close call, we would just start yelling Hawkeye.

Speaker 1 1:10:27

And it was good, like it was similar to what uh Stapoy just described, like they would zoom in and it was it was very dramatic, you know. I think it's great. Yeah, I think it's a good addition.

Speaker 3 1:10:37

We need it everywhere in life. Yeah. I think another part of the NFL trying to find use for new technologies and stuff. They're talking about how you know how they could go to New York for stuff. Yeah. Like, hey, let's go to the apparently when there's a bunch of one o'clock games, there's a lot of football being playing in that time frame. Concurrently. Yeah. So there's oftentimes there's things coming in from different games at the same time to New York, so it gets really hectic in that period. So they need to find ways to like de-conflict that. So they're making wrong calls from New York sometimes because they're just being so different.

Speaker 1 1:11:08

Do you think it's like this comical thing where there's a guy looking at eight screens and he's got a bunch of things as like an octopus?

Speaker 3 1:11:16

He's got all the games on it at once, and he's trying to make calls for everything.

Speaker 1 1:11:19

And he probably is watching, like he he has like in the corner like the Jets Jags game, and there's like clearly an offside. He probably has a pressure on code, but he's like, whatever, it doesn't matter. And then every time Mahomes like sneezes or like someone touches his helmet, he's like, 15, get him out of here. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 1:11:35

Yeah. Yeah, that just one yeah, like Jeffrey Lurie, he during his press conference, it made me think of it. Like he uh I thought he's he started getting very like emotional about like or nostalgic about being like a boy watching football.

Speaker 1 1:11:47

And he's like, I just love this sport so much. And like yeah, and then he he at one point he said he's like, I try to watch every NFL game that that I can, like, not just the Eagles, like he tries to watch them all.

Speaker 2 1:11:58

And like I just like oh no, it's like this guy like serious. Like it's he sounded genuine.

Speaker 1 1:12:02

Yeah, I mean uh we we do have to be careful. The last two Jeffrey Laurie owner meeting discussions, he's talked about wet dreams and now you know, talking about being a boy watching as much as possible. It's it's getting a little dicey here, you know what I mean? Yeah. But there were a couple other quick slayer sound outside. Please. So the Mariners, Seattle Mariners announced the latest and greatest in food vessel options, the souvenir furry boat. Oh what the hell is that? What is that? An eight-hour upgrade to items like nachos, chicken, fish and chips, and fries. Wait, you said furry, like like as in the boat. I have a picture of it. Oh, furry or furry, furry.

Speaker 1:12:43

I thought he was saying furry, like, you know, dressing up like Pikachu and fornicating.

Speaker 1 1:12:48

Fairy. No, fairy or furry? Like furry, like a boat. Yeah. Ferry?

Speaker 3 1:12:54

You say fairy, but you said it's coming out furry. Furry. Furry.

Speaker 1 1:12:59

But not like the people that dress up like I'm gonna take the furry down to down to Camden.

Speaker 2 1:13:06

Never looked at this picture. Oh, I see the right.

Speaker 1 1:13:09

Okay, so it looks like it looks like a furry ferry.

Speaker 1:13:12

This is an audio podcast, but what I will describe for you is a ferry f-e-r-r-y, not an F-U-R-Y. And it looks, yeah, that I'm I think it's nice.

Speaker 1 1:13:24

It's in actually kind of a nice green and white number. It kind of looks like the Jets new jerseys. And so that's extra eight dollars. So at the top of the ferry is the food, and then in the I'm I'm not the most nautically minded, but I believe it's the starboard. I believe it's the aft. Is it port? I believe it's the aft and the bow, the front and the back of the, and you can correct me, but in the aft of the picture, it appears to be some sort of brown sauce, and then in the bow, which I'm gonna say is the back, but I could have had those mixed up. It looks like some sort of is that a dip of some sort? Yeah, that's what it looks like. But is that like fish and chips? I don't I don't see any people in the picture dressing up and committing, you know, lascivious acts of any kind. But yeah, this fairy uh looks good. Very, very, very nice fairy. Fairy. And then there's one more a South Philadelphia man with sentenced for selling 200k worth of $200,000 worth of fake Jason Kelsey signed memorabilia. Oh shit, I'm done. Oh, too. Yeah, let's all right. Now, once again, it's uh podcast. I'm looking at a picture of a man that kind of looks like I don't know, he's got a mullet, and I mean he looks like a guy from Oh, he looks like he's self-special. He looks merchandise. He's gotta be, he's from South Philadelphia. I mean, he looks like he's he looks very delicate. He looks like a guy from Morton or yeah, Folsom. Clifton. Yeah, Clifton. He's like Cliftonite. Yeah, he uh he looks like busted, kidnapping. He's like the guy who goes back to you know, Coco's pizza and complains about his cheesesteak, so he can get another one. Yeah. Very interesting. Great slayer sound off content for sure. I always shout out. Yeah. Love you, Slay. Emails. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:15:10

So we don't have much, but we can get into a small trivia session. Please. Um our friend We did so well last time, Dan. Yeah. Our friend from Virginia, who's calling himself Just Matt this week. What's he calling himself? Just Matt. Justice Matt? Just Matt. Just Matt. Just Matt. Okay. Yeah, just that's all it is. Taking the furry. So question number one is who was the Eagles defensive back who intercepted the Vikings quarterback Case Keem in the 2017 NSC championship game and returned it for 50 yards for a touchdown, and what ended up being a blowout for the Eagles to move them to the Super Bowl against the Patriots. I think this one Yeah, I've seen that like so many times, and I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 1:15:51

I've seen that clip.

Speaker 3 1:15:52

Really you don't remember.

Speaker 1 1:15:53

I feel like I knew it off the bat. Is it we it's not Darby, right? No, it wasn't Darby. It was not a bad guess. Well, we were watching the game together, Statboy downtown. It was uh yeah, he ran it. The name escapes me. He had a great post-season. Do you do you know it's Statboy?

Speaker 3 1:16:08

Well, yeah, I think I knew it by see it, but I knew it before this. Yeah, I don't I'm leaning toward like a very like I don't think he really did much anywhere else. Byron Maxwell? No, no. Yeah, I I I won't. That's not a bad one either. Yeah. Um it was Patrick Robinson. Yeah, yeah. Remember that? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:16:27

He was like a huge play in that that playoff. It was uh arguably the biggest play, yeah, in that in that playoff run. That was great. All right, question number two. And we're doing great. We're doing great so far. Where did he go to college, real quick? Patrick Robinson. Florida. He's a gator. Is he? No, I'm just guessing. Patrick Robinson. Yeah, I want to say he was only a year with the Eagles. Like I think he might have been here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:16:51

Yeah, I think he I forget where he came from. He's a Florida State Seminole. I was close though. I was directionally correct there, Dan.

Speaker 1 1:16:58

Yeah. Not a big guess.

Speaker 3 1:16:59

Yeah. All right. So uh question number two from our just Matt. Um, and this goes back to our this goes back to our foreshadowing from earlier. What current NFL coach has more rushing yards than the extremely athletic Bo Jackson?

Speaker 1 1:17:15

Oh, we I I know this one, Dan. Which NFL head coach?

Speaker 3 1:17:19

Yeah, the head coach in the NFL.

Speaker 1 1:17:21

More rushing yards than Bo Jackson.

Speaker 3 1:17:23

The athletic freak Bo Jackson.

Speaker 1 1:17:26

Do you know it? I know it. You know it? I know it. You knew this, but you didn't know Patrick Robinson.

Speaker 3 1:17:30

I didn't.

Speaker 1 1:17:31

Yeah. Interesting. It's weird how the brain works. I th I've heard this one before. This is a it's a popular one. It's a popular one. I hope I'm not wrong about this. It's not Mike McCarthy. He's Is it NFC or AFC? Sean Mary. Uh it is AFC head coach. AFC.

Speaker 1:17:48

AFC head coach, known for his khaki wear. Oh, that's a strong clue.

Speaker 1 1:17:55

Dad khakis. He wears khakis. Harbaugh? Which one? Uh John. Jim. Jim. Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, yeah. Jim Harbaugh. He he he scrambled a ton, I guess, as a quarterback.

Speaker 3 1:18:09

Yeah, I think he was just kind of a runaround for his life and got some yards. So arguably a better athlete. But I think the question is interesting because you think Bo Jackson had a ton of yards, which he would have had if he had a long career. Yeah. Which he did not have.

Speaker 1:18:22

We will we will break down the way Bo Jackson got injured because it is an orthopedic anomaly. I mean, it is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 1:18:30

He is so powerful that he dislocated his own hip running when he got tackled from behind. It's like unheard of. Like that should never happen.

Speaker 3 1:18:38

We might have to call in a surgeon.

Speaker 1 1:18:41

We'll get an orthopod on to talk about it. That'll be good. Because you know cardio, right? Uh cardio. That's that's kind of my background. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm very much an expert in sudden death in the NFL, not game, you know, career-ending injuries.

Speaker 3 1:18:54

Right.

Speaker 1 1:18:55

Because actually Damar Hamlin got he was fine after. He just died briefly. Yeah. He only went to the shadow realm briefly and he came back. Yeah. Yeah. That was yeah. Yep. Turtles eating uh sea bass in a restaurant right now. That's why he couldn't answer it. He texted you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:19:11

He's still dead to us.

Speaker 1 1:19:12

If you look at your phone, you'll see a picture of it. He's already trying to see face.

Speaker 1:19:16

He sent a picture of the sea bass. Hold on, let me snipe it. I think it was sea bass.

Speaker 1 1:19:19

Let me take a look here about this. Let us see.

Speaker 1:19:24

Right now, I'm looking at a picture. Again, this is an audio presentation. It looks like um uncooked eggs that like egg yolks that are swimming in a bowl with uncooked ham, is what I'm looking at right here. We'll have to put this up on the podcast.

Speaker 2 1:19:41

And then is it like corn and there's some corn in the only way to post photos are not if we had a tired.

Speaker 1 1:19:48

Yeah, this looks like the least appetizing thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 1:19:51

Is he raving about it? I wish we could talk to us.

Speaker 1:19:53

Oh, that is nasty. Tiridito, the fish is sea bass. Is it meant to look not cooked like that? I think it's I mean, it it really looks like someone was making an omelet and quit before they put it on the pan. Ugh.

Speaker 1 1:20:11

I do love sea bass, though. I mean, that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's rough. Not not a big fan. Oh, it is raw fish. Like I just googled pereadito. It is I guess it's supposed to be.

Speaker 3 1:20:20

Wait, is it caveje, like something you cook with lime or some type of acid?

Speaker 1:20:24

See, that looks that looks slightly more appetizing.

Speaker 1 1:20:27

And what Dan is showing us is an auburn sauce that is uh adorning some actual fillets of fish, not like this uncooked disaster of a ham and cheese omelet that turtle's eating right now.

Speaker 3 1:20:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:20:41

Great.

Speaker 3 1:20:42

Anything else? So nothing from that, so from our fan mail, but I can like start getting into some of our corrections. We need we need to be corrected. All right, good. So we started off the episode, talked a little bit about the epitones. Yep. We started talking a little bit about, you know, Easter and priests and stuff of that. We said, you know, the deacons and the priests, they have a little little bit in between them. So I was like, well, let's try to figure out why that might be. So we're looking through the differences here. So a lot of it has to do with okay, so a deacon is more service from his primary focus, service and charity, whereas the priest is more a sacramental leadership. So he's he's kind of like the lead for the church, whereas the other guy's kind of the dude doing all the service stuff. So it's like a quarterback versus the lineman. It's kind of like the backup quarterback in some ways. Okay. Yeah. Then the deacon also he he doesn't do masses, the priests do. So you know, he doesn't get any of the the spotlight. He doesn't get he doesn't get to do a homily every week, he doesn't get to speak his mind and preach. And he's probably like, man, I'm really pissed about that. Confession. Deacons, no. You do not confess to a deacon, but I made a huge mistake 20 years ago. So he doesn't get to hear you gripe about anything. The priest does. Well, and then it's about absolution, right? The deacon can't take the sins away. Correct. Yeah, he doesn't have that capability. That's tough. But the deacon that's the big one. The deacon's like, well, I got the ace up my sleeve here. I can get married. Uh priest has to stay celebrate. Okay. So he can keep his out his furry outfit. And then then we get into the vestments, what they wear. So a deacon, he wears sleeves on his stole, but the the priest, he wears a poncho, right? He wears like a poncho style. What? Yeah. Priests are like wearing ponchos. You don't really notice it. Dan's nodding very approvingly. He's got a garment that like goes over and it's more like a poncho style.

Speaker 1 1:22:33

So poncho?

Speaker 1:22:34

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:22:34

You mean the robes?

Speaker 1:22:35

You're calling the robes?

Speaker 3 1:22:36

Well, they wear a rope, but then they wear like something over the robe too, or around their neck that gives them like a poncho style. So yeah. So it really comes down to the deacon gets a wife and doesn't get to do anything else from the leadership standpoint, but the priest gets all the phantom green.

Speaker 1 1:22:50

The priest wears a poncho. I've never heard of it called a poncho. It's a poncho. The old poncho style.

Speaker 3 1:22:55

Okay. Yeah, poncho, poncho-esque. Alright, let's not dwell on this. We also started talking about altar boys. Let's let's not let's not just be so gender specific. There was altar girls too in our era, which started in 94. So I don't know if you guys had a lot of friends in school, but we had girls get in, and I was getting a little upset because I'm like, now I gotta split this with the girls' side of the house here. So I was like, what the heck? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:23:18

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:23:19

I never thought of boys and girls. Yeah, now it's everybody, which is good. I'm glad everyone gets it. Yeah. So if we took that hundred dollars that Dan made in ninety-five, six, whatever it was, yeah, and you put in the S P five. Yeah. You could have said, Dad, could you put this in the SP five?

Speaker 1 1:23:37

It would be worth hold on. I know the answer to this to the dollar. It would be worth 90. What we're going 96 to say 26? 26. Okay. The Dow is the Dow is right now at 46,500. So it's less than 50,000. I'm gonna say it would be worth 1.8 million dollars. I'll say 800 bucks. 300,000.

Speaker 3 1:24:06

It would be worth $1,800.

Speaker 2 1:24:08

Oh, damn. That's tough. Almost $1,900. I was like, am I? Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:24:13

It would represent. Boy, I thought compound interest did a little bit more than that. Not that much. Yeah, I thought that too.

Speaker 3 1:24:19

It'd be roughly roughly 10.3% annual.

Speaker 2 1:24:22

I mean, I that would be reevaluate your uh boy.

Speaker 3 1:24:26

I I should start saving a little bit more money, guys.

Speaker 1:24:29

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:24:30

Shout out Kit Tat. The most common animal mascot. Yeah, right. Pizza.

Speaker 1 1:24:35

Pizza Odyssey just was like, I put $100 away. Where'd it go?

Speaker 3 1:24:40

Most common animal mascot in Division I sports. Deacon. Demon Deacon. The Wildcat is the third highest. Eagle. Tied with Eagle. Two higher ones. Husky. No, no. Think dads. Think dads. Think dads. Tigers. Correct. Prof Princeton. Yep. And then the number one is Lions. Bulldogs. There are a lot of Bulldogs. There's a lot of Bulldogs.

Speaker 1 1:25:07

Which is interesting, right?

Speaker 1:25:08

Bulldog is probably the least athletic dog in the street.

Speaker 3 1:25:10

14 schools in Division I have mascot of Bulldogs. We talked about players and their sons, NBA players. There's actually way more than we talked about. There's Carmelo Anthony's sons playing. Yep. Kaian. Yep. Shaquille O'Neal's sons. Jameen and Shakir. And then there's Justin Pippin, so Scottie Pippen's son. Jace Howard, which was Juwan Howard's son. I didn't know that. Penny Hardaway has a son playing. Penny Hardaway Jr. And Dominique William Wilkins. Chocolate Thunder. Has has one, yeah. There's a bunch.

Speaker 2 1:25:41

No, that wasn't Choctaw.

Speaker 3 1:25:43

Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 1:25:44

That was Daryl Dahl.

Speaker 3 1:25:45

Oh, what a shit. Yeah, good run.

Speaker 2 1:25:48

Fifth grade. Dominique Wilkins was good.

Speaker 3 1:25:50

We talked about the Jets trying to fleece the Jets in a trade. I don't think we can fleece them any longer. I thought we could and give them, you know, can we ship the Mormon Missile over? No. You know why? Head coach. What did the head coach say about their new signing? They just signed uh Geno Smith. Geno Smith. His exact words were that Geno Smith will, quote unquote, lead us to the promised land. Which is what? The promised land. What, seven and nine? This guy that is literally the worst quarterback in the league last year is going to lead the Jets to the Promised Land.

Speaker 1 1:26:20

Well, you know, it's been 13 years since he's played there since he signed there. So I mean it's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:26:26

And then to tie this all up, we talked a little bit about Andrew Painter, just to give you a little background. I talk about his pitching. So uh he's primarily a fastball guy. He can, and it's in the 96 mile per hour range, but his other pitches that he throws, so like I said, he has a bunch of other stuff. He's not reliant just on that. He relies secondarily on his slider. His slider is a secondary pitch. His tertiary pitch would be his cutter, which is like a baby slider. And they're both around the 20% mark. So like when you're going up there, you know, you're kind of guessing across three pitches. He also has a changeup and he has a he has a sinker. So hopefully over time he starts to learn how to use all those pitches and gets himself in different situations. I think you named every pitch that I know, so that's pretty good. Oh, I think it's more pitches than that. Yeah. I mean, if I was Batten, I would just be like he's just throwing stuff at me. I don't want to tie it off with one Delco rep. So this year, there's a guy that plays for Detroit. His name is Kevin McGonagall. Yeah. Oh, I heard about this. He is from on senior bonner. Senior Bonner. Wow. He was drafted in the second round of the draft and everything. And he's he's uh he's doing really well for the Tigers, a guy that could potentially win rookie of the year. So keep an eye on him all year. He's gonna be a fun local guy to watch. Yeah, he started off the year hot. He's from where? Alden? He's from yeah, I think uh shout out great area. It went to Bonner. So I mean good for him.

Speaker 1 1:27:43

So keep your eye on the seems like a nice young man. Shout out. That's a nice shout out. Yeah. I mean I don't have any relation, but No, you don't? I don't know who he is, but representing there. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 1:27:55

Is there any family ties anybody has?

Speaker 1 1:27:57

I mean, I besides the Bonner type. My last name is M and C

Speaker 3 1:28:00

But you know, we're we're probably because maybe we have seven degrees or six degrees of vacant ideal.

Speaker 1 1:28:07

Yeah, I think that would be great. What I would say, Dan, is that we are in such a blessed time. We are heading into Easter weekend. You're gonna get your feet washed, you're gonna go peruse. I think you're about to head out to go to all the churches, right? Yeah, I'm gonna put my jacket on right after this and just you know drive around and find some churches. I I think that I feel you're welcome to join I feel so very privileged to be a part of this podcast, and I do appreciate everyone enjoying their time with their families. My father spring continues, and you know, we are we're headed for a hell of a spring, let me tell you. Yeah, and what what a time to be alive. I mean the Phillies, we have March Madness, we have the fire sixes, the draft coming out. We have warm weather on the way. The sun is shining, we're headed to the moon, we're we're gonna look at the moon's butt like in about eight days. Like probably less. Like six days, we're gonna be like look at the backside of the moon, and who knows what we're gonna find. Yeah, maybe some treasure. Yeah, you never know. Sometimes the best part's not even the destination, it's the journey. Because this is a journey, this life of ours, right?

Speaker 3 1:29:18

Stepple podcast, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:29:20

Yeah, for the Seth Podcast, I'm Dr. Tat. And I'm Panda Dan. I'm Stepholic. Go beat the birds, go Eagles, go Phillies, go Deacons, go Arizona Wildcast. And everyone enjoys and let's go bask in the sun, the suniness of our friendship. Why do you love space? Why do you love being a part of history?

Speaker 1:29:43

We're going back to the freaking moon, that's why.

Speaker 1 1:29:46

That's what I'm talking about. That's the type of positivity that this podcast is all about. Yeah. All right, boys. Have a good one.