Set Hike! Preyin' On You Tonight, Panda Dan Eat You Alive

The boys begin Episode 26 by mourning the completely real and definitely-not-made-up departure of AJ Brown to New England, triggering a full-scale Philadelphia sports grief spiral before somehow landing an interview with legendary children's author Jerry Pallotta. What follows is 30 minutes of animal warfare, gorilla propaganda, killer whale facts, and the revelation that a king cobra might be the most problematic snake in recorded history. Jerry casually drops stories about attending the greatest games in sports history, writing 31+ books, visiting 4,000 schools, and researching crocodiles launching themselves out of the water like reptilian missiles. After the animal kingdom has been thoroughly debated, the listener mailbag takes center stage with a series of impossible sports challenges. Naturally, the conversation immediately veers into college Christmas tree crimes, dorm-room archaeology, and calculations proving Set Hike would need roughly 77 more years to reach 4,000 episodes. The Eagles' AJ Brown era may be over, but the era of non-fictional gorilla supremacy has never been stronger.

Key Topics Discussed

00:08 — Episode 26, June Rankings & The Jumble of Junettes

09:30 — Eagles Grief Counseling & Life After AJ

11:45 — Animal Battle Talk Sets Up A Huge Special Guest

18:45 — Jerry's Wide World of Sports, Super Bowls, Georgetown & Historic Games

23:30 — The Method Behind the Animal Combat Madness

30:45 — Gorilla vs. 100 Kindergartners & Other Important Questions

40:30 — Non-fiction Life Advice From Jerry Pallotta

44:40 — Post-Interview Animal Analysis

49:00 — The Official Anti-Cannibalism Platform of Set Hike!

54:00 — Eagles Coaching Staff, The Grizzler & the Curious Case of Lizard Lick

01:03:45 — Mailbag: Which Impossible Sports Challenge Could You Survive?

01:31:40 — World Cup Preview & Episode Wrap-Up

Statistics & Facts

• The U.S. broadly shifted from fiction to nonfiction reading around 1990 
• Saltwater crocodile reportedly jumped roughly 20 feet for food
• Tiger reportedly defeated lions "1,000 in a row" in Roman-era stories
• King Cobra eats other snakes
• According to the owner of Skulls Unlimited (skullsunlimited.com), the first European to encounter a gorilla reportedly had his arm ripped off and was beaten to death with it 
• The World Cup involves 48 teams in 12 groups over 104 total matches
• TO had 1,200 yards and 14 TDs in 14 games (2004); AJ had 1,496 yards and 11 TDs in 17 games in his best season 
• Christopher Sanchez:
  • 50⅔ consecutive scoreless innings
  • Mentioned as fifth-longest streak since 1893

Memorable Quotes

"My skill is I can think like a seven-year-old." - Jerry Pallotta

"That was an amazing 30 minutes of my life." - Panda Dan

"Jerry and I are Jesuits. And what you have to understand about Jesuit faith is we don't believe in eating our brothers. The Set Hike! Podcast is an anti-cannibalism podcast through any and all species. " - Dr. TAT

"My brother Joey is my favorite animal." - Jerry Pallotta

"I heard there was a rumor that apparently your publisher had to stop you from writing a book titled Who Would Win? A Hundred Kindergartners versus One Silverback. Is that true? " - Stat Boy

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A huge thank you to legendary children's author Jerry Pallotta for joining Set Hike! this week. From animal battle breakdowns to life advice and unforgettable stories, Jerry was an incredible guest. Be sure to check out his wildly popular Who Would Win? book series and all of his work at www.jerrypallotta.com.

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Transcript

Dr. TAT 0:08

Welcome everyone to the twenty-sixth inaugural episode of the Seth Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Tat, and with me as always, Panda Dan.

Stat Boy 0:17

Step one.

Dr. TAT 0:19

26. 26. 2 plus 6. 8. Not 26. 26? That's a good number.

Panda Dan 0:29

Yeah. And what what year are we in? We're in 2026. Yeah.

Dr. TAT 0:33

This is yeah. Yeah. I I don't know if there's probably some phrase that you say, you know, because when your birthday matches the date in the month, that's your golden birthday. Did you know that?

Panda Dan 0:43

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 0:44

Yeah. So when was your golden birthday? Uh when you turned how when it matches the month? The day of the month.

Panda Dan 0:53

Uh, so 20.

Dr. TAT 0:54

Okay. That's a good one. Mine was 16. Yours was. Were you born on a day three when you were three? Good for you. It explains a lot. Oh yeah. Yeah, so so how are you doing today to Dan?

Panda Dan 1:08

Uh good. Yeah, this is our first episode ever in the month of June. So I I always liked June. I thought it I think it's a cool month. Yeah. Top. I always said I think I think I always said June's the second best month of the year. Second best month. Behind what? October, right? February, yeah. February. Yeah. I mean it's not even undisputed.

Dr. TAT 1:27

Yeah. February is undisputed. And then June really brings up a lot of fun stuff, right? Um it's the least important sports month, arguably. I mean, if your teams are in the finals, it's a great month, but that ship has sailed.

Panda Dan 1:45

No, I think it's a yeah, it's a good sports month. I mean, it's a really good like I mean you have the cup, the finals, you got World Cup this year. Um yeah, not much for baseball.

Stat Boy 1:57

I I mean, you know, it's a you're getting close to the midpoint of this baseball season, right? But yeah, you're right. It's it's all like it's all our school hockey basketball. Yeah.

Dr. TAT 2:04

And if you got nothing there, it's really just baseball. School is ending. It's a it's an exciting time. There's there's a good vibe, the weather's improved. Yeah.

Panda Dan 2:13

No one like dislikes June.

Dr. TAT 2:14

I mean, it's it's definitely I've yet to meet a person who dislikes June. I think that's bull born in June. Yeah, we do have uh and you know what? There's a lot of listeners. Shout out to them. Uh I think there's yeah, I can I can name off the top of my head six six June. What would you what's a group of June people called? I think the June birthday people. Would it be by quality trade?

Speaker 2 2:36

Oh, we have to go by, yeah.

Speaker 5 2:38

Or stand it would be what uh sound? What's sound?

Speaker 2 2:41

What does June sound like?

Speaker 5 2:43

We wouldn't and and what would you call a group of people in June? Like Junians, Juno's, June Juno's Juno's? Sorry, the uh some jumping? The Junettes? Yeah, because some of them are female. What would you call I I would I guess I would go are we agreed on Juno? But Juno sounds masculine, right, with the O ending? Kind of, yeah. So would we go June Junian? Like June Junanian? That sounds like uh Eastern Bloc country, Junanian.

Speaker 3 3:13

Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 5 3:14

I like uh June. I think I thought Junette was kind of cool. Junette? Yeah. Okay. Sure. Let's go with that. So a June, a group of Junettes. A jumble of Junettes. A jumble of Junettes. There's a jumble of Junettes that listen to this podcast, and they're you know, those that have that birthday.

Speaker 3 3:30

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a great month. Yeah, so we're here. Um you know, AJ Brown has been traded. We spent so many hours. Oh my god. What happened? Oh, I just got hit by a freight train. What happened? Yeah, so eight AJ. Well, I remember last week you said, which, you know, I totally understand. You said you weren't emotionally ready to discuss that. Um I'm in disbelief right now. Yeah. It's the first stage of A.J. Brown being traded. Yeah, so he was traded to the New England Patriots for the who? New England Patriots. Oh gosh. For a uh 2028 first round pick and a 2027 fifth round pick. Yeah. Um he called it so after his first practice of minicam, he said it's it's like heaven being there at Gillette State around Gillette Stadium. And uh yeah, a lot it's been a big story this week.

Speaker 2 4:23

Wasn't there a part about the rug or something? He had like a Patriots rug in the Eagles locker room.

Speaker 3 4:27

Yeah, it's a lot of weird stuff called. Yeah, like while he's winning a Super Bowl with the Eagles, while he's putting up the best stats of his career, he he's going home to a New England Patriots rug in his house. Yeah. I mean that was weird. Yeah, I I And then he put I don't know if you get there's been a lot going on. We could get into it. Like, so he he posted a picture of himself as a kid, probably about ten years old or so, wearing a Patriots jersey. But then people called out that like Nike didn't make NFL jerseys at that time when he was at that age, so they they said like that photo had to be like photoshopped. And then there we we don't I don't know if you guys heard about this. This was kind of like deep in the probably Reddit and X postings, but there was uh rumors that he had tension with like Hassan Reddick, um, and that it was over like a female and Jalen Hurts was in the middle of it, like not disclosing information to AJ or so, so there is like some of that going on. I don't know if that's true. It's a lot of non-football related issues going on between the team. But uh but yeah, I'm I mean I'm ready to move on from the AJ Brown era. Um I just don't think he was a good for the mur morality of the team. Um sorry, morale, I should say. Uh it sounds like you were uh Freudian slip there, huh? Yeah. Um you know, last year, and he was a kind of a critical part of why we lost that playoff game. So I I won't miss the drama, and um, you know, ready to move on. I'm excited for Devontae Smith. It's a huge opportunity for him. We got uh Dontavian Wicks, we got Hollywood Brown, we got Lemon, obviously. Uh so we got good guys to compete there. We got great tight end room with Goddard and the new guy, Stowers. I actually forgot. I was looking at the depth chart of the wide receiver room. I took I mean this isn't like a big deal. I don't even know if he'll make the team, but I totally forgot we have Quez Watkins still in that room. Like we like signed him in January. I was like, wait, am I looking at the right year here? So that was kind of surprising. He had been on the practice squad, right, Dan? I think I think we signed him like at the end of last season. Like yeah, January 26th or so. Yeah. I mean But I mean I don't think he'll make it. But yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's I mean, I think Lemon, Wicks, Devante are the three big ones, and then it's kind of a competition. You know, I I think Hollywood Brown will make the team, uh, but it's kind of a competition there after that.

Speaker 5 6:54

So dark days. Uh, you know, bad things are happening. Uh you know, the more I think about it, June kind of sucks. Um you know, we've we've lost AJ Brown. We lost, I would be willing to say, pretty comfortably, the best Eagles wide receiver of the last three decades.

Speaker 2 7:14

I would argue that for a period of time. I mean, TO's regarded as one of the best receivers in the team, but not a long-tenual.

Speaker 5 7:22

I mean, that was that was one year. I mean, I don't think it was a hell of a year. I it was a hell of a year. Uh he actually he had what, like 1,100 or 12 well, you can look it up, but he had like 1,100 or 1200 yards. I mean, he did have a touch in every game, like 14 touchdowns in the 14 games he played. But AJ had like what? I think he either had 1,100 or 1,500 yards receiving every year. And his I think he had 11 touchdowns on two of the years and then seven the last year. I mean, statistically, I I don't think there has been a better wide receiver. I I have not watched a wide receiver in Midnight Green better than AJ Brown.

Speaker 3 8:01

Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely you know reasonable to say he's the greatest of Eagles in the Eagles history wide receiver. He's gotta be right up there. And he was so fun to watch. I mean, such a strong guy. Like, even the, you know, just him running after a catch, like he would break tackles, he would stiff arm guys, he was just so like as good in shape as someone could be. He was like an action figure out there, you know. So um he would have been in the Eagles Hall of Fame, I think. Like, definitely deservedly so. Does he still make it? I don't think so. I think he'll take this, yeah. I mean Jeffrey Lurie's uh a man that bleeds Eagles Green, obviously. Ironically, a Patriots fan growing up, though, from the New England area. Yeah, but uh but yeah, I don't I don't think that the way he's handled this, just his departure would warrant any and I don't yeah, so dark days, yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Um yeah, we spent a lot of time talking about it, just the psychology of it all during the year. So uh so yeah, I mean to our listeners out there, I'm sure they they loved AJ Brown. We all did. Um, you know, so much we won a Super Bowl with him, so we'll forever be grateful for that. He he played a big part in that, and uh, but we move on. We're we're Eagles fans, and uh we're excited for this upcoming season. And uh like I said, I love Devante Smith, so I am excited, and and we'll see, Mikhail, we'll see how it works out. But but we move on, folks. We move on.

Speaker 5 9:29

I'm completely dejected. I actually think that we lost uh uh it's like losing your right thumb. Uh the passing game is going to be completely uh defunct, and uh I'm ready for I'm ready to be heard again. Yeah. I'm ready for Jalen Hurts to play better. And I think there's going to be some motivation because the truth is, I think we I think we had our finger on the pulse pretty well. AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts weren't on the same page. And I think the Super Bowl did not uh it did not calm the beef or what whatever was going on was and I think Staboy said this quite well. It was outside of the lines, outside of the gridiron. You know, it's uh it is what it is. Um yeah, I'm I'm still processing, is the point here.

Speaker 3 10:19

We could talk about you know, it seems like you're not quite emotionally ready yet. I don't think that's fine, but you think I mean you're you're an emotional guy, and that's what makes you a great podcaster. Thank you. And a great fake doctor, too. Yeah, well, you know, it's it it's just you got the feels, right? Yeah, yeah. But uh, but yeah, so we got that. Uh Phillies are playing well. They're you know, under Don Mattingley, they they've been playing well. They just swept the Padres. Chris Christopher Sanchez deserves a shout-out. We never talked about him on Seth Podcast, but man, that guy just said like what is it?

Speaker 5 10:52

50.2, I think.

Speaker 3 10:53

Yeah, yeah. I know it snapped last night.

Speaker 5 10:55

He did allow a run, so I think it ended up being fifty and two-thirds innings by the end.

Speaker 2 11:01

That's yeah, he uh 50s and two-thirds. Which ranks fifth all time uh for the longest streak of no scoring since uh 1983. Yeah, that's pretty deep. 1893, excuse me. Yeah, oh wow. Yeah, what were you doing in 1893?

Speaker 5 11:19

1893, I was getting ready to be born in about 100 years.

Speaker 3 11:24

Getting ready to be born like I'm under a hundred, baby. Yeah, but one of the things I just really like not to go on a tangent, but I do miss like during the NFL season, like sometimes we would just talk about like if the Eagles were playing like the Bears or the Lions, like sometimes we'd be like, man, like who would win a battle? Like an Eagles versus an Eagle versus a bear, an eagle versus a lion. Like you were you were always super good at that.

Speaker 5 11:45

Yeah, I I have a passion for animals, and I think we espoused it in the last episode. Yeah. And the truth is, I I think we need a salve to go over these wounds, this AJ Brown hole that's filled. So I think um one of the things we've offered our set hike listeners is a bit of a diversion, you know, something that uh I think would be quite special. And I think our animal-named uh co-host, uh Panda Dan, uh has a little treat for us.

Speaker 3 12:12

Yeah, I do have a treat. This is something we've been working on, and uh we've been super excited about, and let's make it happen if Stapley can use our advanced technology here. Oh my god, it's ringing.

Speaker 5 12:28

I'm so excited. Hello. Hello, uh Jerry Pilotta. Right here. Hi, Jerry. It's uh Dr. Tad at the Seth Podcast. You're uh live to record. We're uh so delighted for your time to chat with you. So um uh how are you doing? Good. Good. I um am a direct benefactor. Let me first thank you. I believe there's 30, what, 36 or 37 Jerry books uh that you provided for uh my my son is a huge fan, and I've spent countless hours reading the books. But tell me a little bit about the Who Would Win series.

Speaker 13:09

Uh there's 31 that are printed. Uh I started it about 15 years ago. Um so I I wrote like two a year. And um before that I wrote an alphabet book series, a math series, and a few stories. I've been writing books for 40 years. Wow. Actually, in July, in July I'll be 40 years. Fantastic. I'm 73 years old. And the only thing I really brag about is I've been to 4,000 schools. So when I started my career, I decided I had to treat it like a full-time job. You know, I've been visiting schools and talking to assemblies of kids for 4,000 schools, almost 40 years. So what's the premise of this book? Uh which book?

Speaker 2 13:57

Um, the the animal series.

Speaker 14:02

Teach kids facts, get them to research, get them to think. Uh I was trying to read I was trying to um appeal to reluctant readers. I was really after reluctant readers. Whenever I visit schools, the teachers tell me they have all these boys and girls who don't like to read. And I thought about it, and I I was trying to write something that would get them to read.

Speaker 5 14:28

Now, yeah now, Jerry, um when you were growing up, uh were you a big fan of all different types of animals or or what what brought you uh clearly you you've been dedicated to educating children through through literature, but the Who Would Win series in particular, what made you think, like, hey, I'd love to do kind of this? It really combined sports and and like zoology and education. Yeah.

Speaker 14:53

Um well, I started out writing nonfiction alphabet books. That's how I started. I'm getting a lot of noise. Is that you or me?

Speaker 5 15:05

Uh no, I don't I don't think it's uh anything on our end. We can hear you loud and clear. Okay.

Speaker 15:14

Um well I had a speaker on, it was getting weird. Is this okay like this? Yeah, yeah, we can hear you. We're good. Um tell me, ask me the question again.

Speaker 5 15:24

Yeah, Jerry, I was I was thinking like, you know, the who would win series in particular. I think that um I was just curious, like, growing up, were you were you big into like different types of animals? Did you go to the zoo a lot of people?

Speaker 15:36

I grew up near Boston and I grew up near Boston in Medford, Massachusetts. But my grandparents had a house on the beach in Citroën, Massachusetts. And uh ever since I was one year old, I was on the beach in the summer. And um as a kid I caught minnows, I caught crabs, I caught lobsters, I dug clams, and I guess uh you know, plus all the different fish that were in the bay where I grew up. And I I I grew to like all the creatures in the ocean. It wasn't until I got older and I was reading to my own kids and I decided to think, you know, I should write a book about all the sea creatures I knew. So instead of a book like A for Apple, B for ball, C for Cat, which is what I was reading to my kids. A for apple, B for ball, C for cat. I thought I would write like, you know, L for lobster, C for crab, um, S for Sea Raven, or you know, C Raven. I grew up with ocean animals, and then when I got older and I was reading to my kids, I thought of researching and doing whatever I could. So when I first started, I wrote a book of uh fish A through Z, then I wrote Birds A through Z, then I wrote Bugs A through Z, and um Ocean birds bugs, and I did flowers, then I did reptiles, then I did uh sea mammals, um I just kept going and going. I wrote about 35 nonfiction alphabet books, and that's how I started my career. But uh when I got older I just thought of this one day that I would write a book that compared two animals, and then I would I would entice them into reading the books by having a fight in the book. But I was really about filling the book full of facts. So I feel like I was tricking them into reading science. I was tricking them into reading science and uh information.

Speaker 5 17:48

I it it's so cool because uh you really I I my son is seven years old, Jerry, and I'll tell you, since since he was about five and a half, we have done uh I've done he he just picked up Fierce Disputes. Um he he loves the rumbles, he loves when we have a tournament with these animals. And what I really enjoy is exactly what you do. You set up the two animals against each other, but before they actually compete or or battle, um you go through like a tail of the tape. It's like two, you know, pugilists, you know, like two fighters. And so it goes through all this education and then they go at it. And what's real what I love is at the end of every kind of bout or even the tournaments that end up, you say, Hey, this is one way that this could have happened. In fact, there's a huge upset in one of the insect uh rumbles where this random, I think it's a bird, it was one of the worms won by default because a third party came in and took out one of the animals. Oh, it was it was fantastic.

Speaker 18:46

Yeah, I remember I remember I was sitting next to the illustrator, we decided to do that just for fun. I love that.

Speaker 5 18:52

That's amazing. But but you keep it open-ended and you keep it so light, but then there's like legitimate, like it goes through the difference in beak shapes for, you know, let's say a raven versus a crow, or you know, it goes through like their their wing span if it's birds and things like that. So uh it's so funny because the three of us, we grew up doing hypotheticals, Jerry, like this all the time. Like we would and and we we're diehard Eagles fans. So, you know, I I I was shocked you were willing to uh talk to us. I imagine uh you may be supported. Do you support any of the New England sports teams?

Speaker 19:27

Well, as a kid, I grew up well, the Patriots were awful when I was a kid. Right. Um the Red Sox in a freak won the world won the uh pennant in 67. That was sort of a freak thing. Because they were the le they went from last place to first place back when there were no playoffs. Oh, that's insane. Um yeah, I wasn't a sports fan. I grew up in a family with uh five boys, two girls. Wow. And actually, when we were kids, we were at the park every day playing sports. You know?

Speaker 1 19:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20:00

So yeah, I am a sports fan. That's also I'm older now, I'm not as crazy as I was. But I I was at the Super Bowl when the Patriots were losing 28-3. Oh, no way. You were at the Falcons? Yeah. I was at the top seat. My head was like right by the roof. Wow.

Speaker 5 20:20

But you were in the You were in the stadium. You were part of the stadium. For an incredible Super Bowl. I mean it was amazing. The greatest comeback in Super Bowl history.

Speaker 20:29

And you know, I think my college roommate became head of the NFL Players Association, uh CFO of the NFL Players Association. Wow. So he helped me get tickets.

Speaker 2 20:42

Yeah, I mean, um and the and the Eagles and Patriots, they've had some history against each other in this rule, right? We had our first Ruby Bowl we lost, and then we had the second one we won. So I mean that was a one-on-one series there between Philly and New England.

Speaker 20:53

But I remember the Celtics and Mo Cheeks and Cunningham and Celtic Sixers. Is that his name? Daryl Dawkins, is that his name? Oh yeah, yeah, chocolate daughter, 100%. I remember as a kid. Yeah. And you're a Celtic Sixers.

Speaker 3 21:14

You're a Georgetown alum, right, Jerry? I was I was reading a little bit about you before. Oh, Go Hoyas.

Speaker 21:19

Yeah. Nice. I was at that game too when we lost to Villanova.

Speaker 3 21:23

Oh, really?

Speaker 21:23

1985.

Speaker 5 21:25

Jerry, you gotta let us know when you're going to a game. Because I I want to attend with you because you go to historic games. Uh you you've seen some of the best games uh in the history of sport. Yeah, you're sporty residents.

Speaker 21:36

I can imagine, my gosh. That Georgetown game was a real free game. Uh they never missed a shot. Villanova never missed a shot in that game.

Speaker 3 21:44

That was Patrick Ewing, right?

Speaker 21:46

Wasn't Ewing that sounded? Yeah.

Speaker 3 21:47

Yeah. Yeah. We uh we love Alan Iris in here in Philadelphia too. He was a classic for Georgetown. Yeah.

Speaker 5 21:54

Yeah. And once again, Jerry, I I'm on the other side of the aisle here with uh I'm a Syracuse alum, so uh there There's always been some nice battles, uh, Syracuse, Georgetown. I do miss the biggest. You know, it's a shame that they're not together at all.

Speaker 22:06

I'll tell you a true story. I wasn't involved in this. My roommates, my college buddies were crazy, and one week they rented like six costumes. And at at the uh carrier dome, they all ran out on the court at halftime. And it changed the rules in the Big East that there were only one mascot was allowed at a game.

Speaker 5 22:29

Oh, they were false mascots.

Speaker 22:31

Oh wow. Right. They ran out on the court and nobody knew if they were real or they were supposed to be there. These were my college buddies. For some reason, I wasn't at that game. Oh my gosh. That's that's incredible. But yeah, yeah. But you said your son is seven years old? Yeah, yeah. So my kids asked me, how do you pick the animals that you picked for the books? I I just say I pretend I'm seven. What would I love to see if I was seven years old? And and my son. I was at a uh event once where there was a there was a lawyer and there was a construction guy, and there was a judge, and there was uh a stockbroker, and there was me, and there was an accountant, and alumni event, and they went around the room and asked, tell us your skill. So when they got to me, I said, My skill is I I can think like a seven-year-old. And everybody laughed, but I I wasn't really embarrassed by it because I thought it was a great skill to have. I I I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 3 23:33

Yeah, yeah. How do you um how do you research the animals, Jerry? Like what is your process when you so you you choose the animals and then they I just read.

Speaker 23:44

I read. I read. I do watch YouTube sometimes. Like recently I saw a crocodile bite an electric eel. So I put that in one of the books that's coming out this year. Um I saw on YouTube uh uh uh a falcon killer red-tailed hawk. So in my book, The Falcon Kills a Red Tailed Hawk, but I didn't know if it would really happen, but then I saw that it really did happen. Wow. So sometimes sometimes I'd pick a winner, but I wasn't really sure. But like uh a walrus weighs three thousand pounds, but an elephant seal can weigh eight thousand pounds. So I thought the elephant seal would win. He could just sit on them. You know, like he's so good.

Speaker 3 24:34

We were just talking about walruses last week, actually. Um but uh yeah, no, that's very cool.

Speaker 24:41

Yeah, the the way we actually I read books mostly. I read books, I read books, but I go to zoos, I go to aquariums, I go to museums, big zoos, I talk to scientists. I have a friend that was head of the Tacoma Zoo. He writes novels now. Author uh Roland Smith, he writes great books. And he taught me a lot of stuff because he was head of the zoo. You know, like he told me the tiger was the smartest animal in the zoo, and the lion was the dumbest animal in the zoo. He taught me stuff like that.

Speaker 3 25:14

So yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's very interesting, Jerry. We we were big Eagles fans, so like during the NFL season, a lot of times, like when the Eagles would play the Lions or the Bears, like we would all we would often say.

Speaker 25:28

At night I pray for Devonta Smith to come to New England, just so you know. Ah, there you go. Yeah, well. Is that his name?

Speaker 5 25:35

Yeah, yeah, but now he's all a balance kid. Yeah, he's he's the one we kept. Uh now you guys have uh you have a new Engle, uh new Eagle, now a Patriot, AJ Brown, and yeah, we're we're we're still reeling from it. I you know the truth is it it was a mutual trade and it probably needed to happen, but I think you got a special one there. I think he still got a lot of gas in the tank. Yeah.

Speaker 3 25:59

Jerry, were you always like I'm like we have listeners of all ages, and you know, I I believe you can always start a new skill um you know, any time in life. Like, were were you always into writing and reading even before?

Speaker 26:14

No, I didn't start writing until I was 32 when I had my own kids. My wife, my wife made me read to my kids. That's really how my career started. My wife was in my face saying, read, read, read to those kids, read to those kids. That's it. And when I was reading, uh people think I didn't like what I was reading, so I wrote my own books. It's not true. I liked what I was reading. I thought they were cute and funny, and I thought, hey, maybe I could do this. But I would thank my high school teachers. Uh I went to an all-boys Jesuit high school in Boston in and they I think they made me a lifelong learner. So I I just kept going, researching or uh learning about animals.

Speaker 2 27:00

I mean, you probably had such a repository of knowledge on all these things.

Speaker 27:04

But I worked I worked at after college, I'm like most guys, I got a job in an insurance company, I was there for 15 years. But after ten years, I started writing books at night when my kids were asleep. I started writing books at night or writing stuff at stop signs or writing stuff on a train or whatever. And um that's how I started. And then a lot of people don't know this, but the whole country switched to nonfiction around 1990. So, like before 1990, the United States was reading fairy tales and mother goose and stuff like that. And just about 1990 the country went nonfiction. The other thing that happened is they were using textbooks in schools and at one point they stopped using textbooks and they used children's literature to teach kids things. So I had written all these nonfiction alphabet books and they sort of fit in what was going on in the country. So when I researched all my alphabet books, I had information in my head that I used later on about things I knew about animals.

Speaker 3 28:18

Very cool. And then how about like going around? So that must have been a you worked in an it's very interesting. You worked in insurance, and then you read the books, and then you started going around. You said you've been to how many schools?

Speaker 28:30

I started jobs at schools, yeah, and I could tell I could tell the kids love the books.

Speaker 1 28:34

Yeah.

Speaker 28:35

And uh listeners. I couldn't tell my wife I was gonna quit my job because I had four kids that were little. Okay, she got you into the business. She got you to read the I could tell though that I was gonna quit, and I did. I quit in 1990 I quit my other job. So uh 1990 to now, what's that, 37 years? I don't know. I um thirty-six. Oh yeah. The other thing is it became fashionable in the country to have an author visit your school. So I all of a sudden had a second career. So even if your books didn't sell well, mine sold really well. I was a lucky guy. But even if your books didn't sell well, you could ni earn a living visiting schools and getting paid a fee. So I started visiting schools and I kept writing books. And then I don't know where it happened, but I thought of doing a killer whale against the great white shark. One of my favorites. And I thought I think the ending to my book's kind of weak, but I thought that you know uh uh great white shark would win because of the movie Jaws, you know? But the more I read and then I saw actual fights, I I realized the killer whale always wins in three seconds. So smart, so intelligent, so slick, so quick. He rams the shark and flips him upside down, and then he bites him and the fight's over. So that's all. So is that your most surprising fight?

Speaker 2 30:07

Is that your most surprising fight? Is that the most surprising fight that you uncovered through your um research over time? Like what was the the battle that you uh were completely surprised by between two different animals?

Speaker 30:19

Um I'd have to think for a minute. Yeah, sure. Um I don't know.

Speaker 5 30:26

Yeah, there's a lot of interesting ones in the books, the book series.

Speaker 30:30

If you saw a video of a saltwater croc jumping completely out of the water, I think that that's a shocker. Coming out of it completely. Wow. Yeah. That's a lot of energy. They put like a chicken up above uh like 20 feet above the water and he jumped all the way up to it.

Speaker 2 30:46

I heard there was a there was a rumor that apparently your publisher had to stop you from writing a book um that was titled Who Would Win? A hundred kindergartners versus one silverback. Is that true?

Speaker 30:55

No, that's not me. That's what kids say to me everywhere I go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 31:01

How about uh how about polar bearing?

Speaker 31:03

I tell them one human could kill a gorilla. Oh, it's surprising there know about that.

Speaker 5 31:10

Yeah, human who would win, unfortunately. Human uh is uh one of the deadliest prey, yeah.

Speaker 31:15

I don't tell this to kids, but I was told by the guy who owns the skull museum. If you guys want to look something up. Oh, I'm looking it up now. Speak it. Skullsunlimited.com. That guy knows everything. And um Okay. He was telling me the first European that met a gorilla, the gorilla ripped his arm off and then beat him to death with his own arm. Oh my god. Savage. You can you can go look that up and see if it's true. That's remarkable. That's crazy. Oh man, the teacher would say to me, tell us something you can't put in your books. There's something I can't put in my books.

Speaker 5 31:54

Yeah, that would be a bit grim in the uh yeah. Even even my son would be a little um uh overwhelmed by that. But yeah, that's the cool part about your books is that they fit like uh I think anywhere from what six to ten is like kind of the peak kind of area because it's like you're educating them and it's not over their heads by any means. And there's just this when it becomes a competition. I I I know I can speak with my son, they the competition adds this excitement to it that they really love. It's it's so cool.

Speaker 32:26

I think a thing that surprised me is a king cobra eats other snakes. I mean, here you are a snake, and you eat other snakes. Yeah, that's why he's called the king.

Speaker 5 32:38

Oh yeah, that's why he's called the king, Dan. Um something, I'll tell you. Yeah. I we so so Jerry, I I had to ask you this because I was so excited to have you on. My buddies and I, we've for years have talked about having the and this is a very silly matchup, so you can tell me that if that's the answer. But we always thought about whether a um Kodiak or excuse me, a polar bear versus a silverback gorilla. I know that uh let's just say it's in the zoo, Jerry, so because I know they're different habitats. Which one would you pick in your expertise? Great question, Jim.

Speaker 33:15

Wow. Well, I was told by the uh people in Alaska that the Kodiak bear is the baddest bear. That um a polar bear is an apex predator, but he has no one to fight. So he has no one to fight up in the Arctic, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 33:32

So he doesn't train well.

Speaker 33:35

But a Kodiak brown bear fights constantly. He's bigger than a grizz. So I was told that a Kodiak brown bear was the baddest bear of all. That's what I was told by the locals.

Speaker 5 33:45

Yeah.

Speaker 33:48

A bear against a gorilla. Silverback, yeah, particularly. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with intelligence. So I don't know what to tell you. That's what I'm talking about. So you're going silverback gorilla? Yeah.

Speaker 4 33:59

Yes.

Speaker 5 34:00

Jerry, I've been fighting my friends for the other one.

Speaker 34:04

Well, you don't have to believe me, where do I know? But um, I'll tell you where they do fight. Uh Grizzlies do fight tigers in Siberia. Wow. Oh you want to read a great book? There's this book called The Tiger by a guy named Valant, D-A-I-L-L-A-N-T. It's an unbelievable book about tigers. So we'll call them up. We'll try to get that. The fall of the Soviet Union, they like abandoned Siberia because they had so much trouble they couldn't really control it. And then there's these Siberian tigers, the best the meanest, fastest, biggest tiger of all. And uh there are grizzly bears in the neighborhood, so they would fight.

Speaker 3 34:50

So can anything beat a silverback gorilla? Like, is would you say that's the best of the best? I don't know.

Speaker 5 34:56

I think I think an elephant would.

Speaker 34:58

A king cobra could beat him, probably just give him a bite.

Speaker 5 35:02

Yeah, yeah, you gotta think about that. And and a lot of your books, Jerry, will have that, where like the venom or poison definitely plays a factor in something.

Speaker 35:08

Yeah, I didn't know how to do it. I didn't really know what to do, so I had him throw a rock on him.

Speaker 2 35:14

Yeah, that's right. So you seem to like you put intelligence as a top level thing here, but you know, poisonous is like up there to combat it.

Speaker 5 35:22

Well, it's cool because it goes eagles, insects. There's there's an insect battle book, there's battle books with birds and stuff, and you know, we we always think of the eagles, we always think that they're gonna win in those battles. Um, you know, unfortunately, an eagle and a lion, I don't know. I'd it'd be interesting because of the flight land dynamic, and you told me lions are not very smart, but uh I I always worry about the eagles.

Speaker 35:46

Yeah. And a tiger is a solo creature, so he's always all alone, and he's really intelligent. They told me he was an elephant and a lion, a tiger. An elephant and a tiger were equally intelligent.

Speaker 4 36:01

That's surprising. Yeah, that's surprising.

Speaker 36:04

That's what I learned, but I'm sure there's people out there that say, oh, that guy, he writes children's books, he doesn't know anything.

Speaker 5 36:10

No, but you've been reading and researching for 37 years.

Speaker 2 36:14

We're gonna trust you here, Jerry.

Speaker 5 36:15

Yeah, I'm I'm so delighted.

Speaker 2 36:17

I said we I think we're gonna trust you here with your experience, right? I know you're probably not giving yourself enough credit, but have you ever had a child uh write you or ask you a question uh that has made an argument in one of your uh your well I'll tell you this in my book I had the lion win.

Speaker 36:32

Oh, okay. So kids would argue with me. Yeah. The tiger would win, and they say in ancient Rome, uh when I was in Italy, they told us in ancient Rome in the Coliseum that a tiger won a thousand in a row against a lion. Whoa. A thousand in a row.

Speaker 4 36:48

That's that's yeah.

Speaker 36:51

That's that's what I was told. So um the tiger would win, but in my book I had the lion win, so kids would argue with me. But I have got letters that say I don't know what I'm doing. I I can't think of a more New England author move.

Speaker 5 37:06

I can't think of a better New England author move. My my sister uh went to BC, and I I just think showing that kind of uh uh you know poise and and willingness to challenge your uh your your constituents with uh maybe perhaps the biggest upset is one of the first ones in your book series. Yeah.

Speaker 37:26

I don't know how smart it was, but that's no, it's good. Um I guess this is probably by the way, I get I get hundreds of letters, I try to answer them all. And um I've I had a kid write me fifty combos he wanted me to write. Everything you ever two animals you could ever imagine. And he goes, do this by next week and get these books to me.

Speaker 5 37:52

Wow, there's no harder demanding, no harder publisher than an eight-year-old boy uh there, Jerry. That's that's what it sounds like. Um but yeah, I I uh Jerry, I just want to thank you because you know we like to uh this podcast, we like to behave like big kids. And I think you're a big kid, you know, you you think like a seven-year-old, and you've really what you've shared with thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of students over these three decades, that's really special. And my my son is one of them. So I I really thank you because it's that's such a cool career. And uh I wish I could show you some of the lettuce, some of the lettuce I get from parents, you know.

Speaker 3 38:30

Yeah, yeah. No, I I echo what Dr. Tat said.

Speaker 38:34

I mean, this this teacher told me all the kids are now researching, they could never get them to research, and then they started reading these books, and now they want to read about other animals, and they want to like make their own matchups and try to figure out how to write the books. So I'm a lucky guy.

Speaker 2 38:52

I'm a lucky guy. Lots of inspiration there. That's awesome.

Speaker 5 38:54

Lucky, but you also you you you gave back, and and that's I I'm sure it's so fulfilling to see all these kids get so excited and amped up to see the guy who's you know got the lion versus the tiger and all these other uh things. D do you have a favorite animal or matchup, in your opinion?

Speaker 39:11

I always tell kids my brother Joey is my favorite animal. Awesome. In a orca, in a worker in the ocean, in a jaguar on land. If you really want to see something, go on YouTube and punch up a jaguar against a croc. And there's these incredible videos that aren't uh AI, that aren't full of shit. Wow. Sorry I said that. Oh, no worries. No worries, yeah.

Speaker 3 39:42

So um you've changed a lot of lives for the better, Jerry, and um made people smarter reading more, you know, young kids, so that's great. And I did one one last question I had for you, uh kind of like a life question. Like we like you're uh you created your books, you know, that required imagination and vision. Uh we're just you know, we're podcasters trying to put content out there, and you know, we use our imagination too. Like that's that's inspiring that you have the courage to do that because you know you always have that self-doubt, like should I be, you know, should I be doing this? And like what advice would you give for folks that are you know might have a vision or an idea and maybe they're a little bit hesitant? Like I re I just respect your your uh audacity to to do what you did with the books.

Speaker 40:32

I would say go to work every day, you know. Just stay at it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 40:40

You know, yeah, I hear you, Jerry. It's like how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 40:50

Yeah, we're inspired, Jerry. Yeah, that it's great stuff.

Speaker 40:53

Yeah. You know, I read a book that Jay Leno did 300 stand-ups one year before he was famous. And I read another book, the rock band The Police did 350 concerts in one year. Two.

Speaker 4 41:08

That's crazy.

Speaker 41:09

Wow. Wow. And I thought that that has to be me. I have to do that. I have to like stay at it. That's what I thought.

Speaker 3 41:17

Yeah, when you visited 4,000 schools, you've written numerous books. That's gotta be close to a record.

Speaker 41:23

I mean 4,000 schools. Uh that's amazing. There's a few of us out there that are in schools all the time, yeah.

Speaker 3 41:31

Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 41:33

Well, again, Jerry, we we thank you for your time and and you know, talking to a bunch of 30-something. You know, I'm I'm 37, so I'm three decades past your prime time for it, but I still love the books. And I it more importantly, I love sharing them with my kids. So thank you for that.

Speaker 2 41:49

Thank you. Yeah, and and Jerry, to give a real quick plug for you. So um, I think your current book is the Cody versus Dingo. Is that currently the most uh recent book you've uh published? No.

Speaker 41:59

Oh the most recent book is uh Porcupine versus Pangolin. Nice now we're talking.

unknown 42:06

Okay.

Speaker 42:09

One of them has quills, the other one has scales. Okay. But a book I'm really proud of is Blue Whale versus Mosquito. Because the mosquito is carrying the virus. Uh-huh. And when people when adults say to me, What are you afraid of? And you think people are afraid of tigers and great white sharks and lions and snakes, whatever. I'm afraid of viruses. Yeah.

Speaker 5 42:36

Jerry's afraid of the malaria. Afraid of his red blood cells being the shape, and I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 42:43

I saw you wrote a book about uh By the way, I was told malaria is not a virus, it's a parasite. That's correct, yeah. Then I thought, whoa, can't do that. I want to stick with viruses. Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 3 42:57

Jerry, I saw you write a book about Fenway Park, too. I just wanted to mention. That's that's probably my favorite ballpark. Um my brother went to beat you.

Speaker 43:06

Our family has had season tickets for like uh 30 years.

Speaker 3 43:09

Oh yeah? We're up by the wall.

Speaker 43:12

You know where the door is in the corner? Yeah. Up by the wall. Our seats are right above there. That's fantastic. That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 5 43:21

If you ever want to have some, call me. Jerry, you're the best. Uh again, thank you for your time. Um, you know, uh we uh And you guys are in Philly?

Speaker 43:31

We're in Philly, yeah. Yep. Well, last week I was in Phoenixville. Oh, yeah, nice. Fantastic Catholic school. I was at John Paul II. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 43:42

I know, I know. Well, I went to St. Joe's Prep, which is a Jesuit school, um, Jesuit high school as well. So I I know you you're a man for others, just like I'm a Jesuit guy. Yeah, now we're talking. Uh the other two are rolling their eyes, but they're infidels, Jerry. You and I, brother. Yeah.

Speaker 3 43:59

No, that's awesome. Yeah, this was an absolute honor to have you on, Jerry. Thanks to your uh daughter as well, Sheila. She was very uh helpful in helping to get this scheduled and everything went smooth. And this has been a complete. I can't believe it worked because I think I forgot about it.

Speaker 5 44:14

Yeah. Hey, better lucky than good, Jerry. And uh I look forward to the ultimate matchup, which is gonna be the Philadelphia Eagles against the New England Patriots this February. Okay, yeah, let's go ready. And if you let us know if you're going, because I'm gonna go too, because it will be an epic game if you're there. Yeah, true. All right, all right, Jerry, be well. Thank you very much. See ya.

Speaker 2 44:37

Thank you, Jerry. Take care. Have a good evening. Bye. Yeah, so uh real quick, uh, the plug for Jerry here is uh jerry uhpulata.com is is currently his own website where he sells all these uh fantastic books. So I encourage everyone to go check it out and you know maybe purchase a couple.

Speaker 3 44:53

Yeah, yeah, and we can we can testify that the books are very good. Like uh I know Dr. Tat loves it. Not that we need to testify, we're not under oath, but I I do think so. Many of our listeners, uh and yeah, I mean that was that was awesome. What a what a gentleman.

Speaker 5 45:09

You know, I Dan, I I was rather desponded, I think, as we started this podcast with AJ Brown's departure. The fact that Jerry Pallotta, you know, a man who has written many, many books and has researched many, many animals, told me he went with intelligence, which is what I always go with, right, Statboy? And chose the silver back gorilla over the polar bear.

Speaker 3 45:37

Yeah. I I remember. It was a Kodiak bear.

Speaker 5 45:40

Which one, which bear did we say? It was Kodiak, yeah. So he chose what I chose.

Speaker 3 45:45

So I So you were always team gorilla, I was always team gorilla, but some of our listeners were fiercely the other way.

Speaker 5 45:53

So I feel forever vindicated. I I couldn't be happier right now. Um and and the truth is, seriously, like for for all of our set hike listeners that have uh young children, um, really, and and I I do think, and even on his website, he says kind of age six to ten. That's like the the sweet spot for this, because the kids get excited, there's a lot of action in them. And I think just having that excitement of of like some of his books have brackets, Dan, Panda. You know, they they're like first round, second round, third round, and then they have the finals.

Speaker 3 46:25

I saw, yeah, I think his first book was reading about it, yeah. Like the it was sharks, I think. And he he literally did like a it was like a sweet 16 bracket of like you know, like March Manna style of uh sharks, and like that's that was his first book.

Speaker 5 46:40

Yeah, and it's it's just it's great. And and penguin, or what was the last one? Porcupine Penguin. That's Pangolin, yeah.

Speaker 2 46:45

That's gonna be a hell of one. What do you who do you think it ends up being? You know, I think um I don't know who's more intelligent, but uh maybe the penguin sounds like it would be. I don't think it's all intelligent, but it's species of poison stuff would would defeat the intelligent piece. Yeah, but then he talked about the saltwater crocodile jumping. Isn't the penguin poisonous? I think it does, haven't you? I think the penguin's got some poison. So I was gonna go maybe the penguin in my opinion. I'm gonna have to wait for the book. I'm just so excited.

Speaker 5 47:08

But the truth is, like, uh our man, our man Jerry, like he gets it. He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm worried about the saltwater crocodile, but measles on the rise, like F yeah. You know what I mean? Like he he gets it.

Speaker 2 47:19

It's it's really cool. Yeah. Well, you know, this is uh checking my inner carnivore right now. I'm just uh I have to have some of this delicious uh jerky from Seth.

Speaker 5 47:27

Oh, this uh so right now I'm just changing down I'm enjoying. We have our new set hike jerky, um, which is part of our our new product that you're gonna be welcome for. It's good. Um so it's quite good. Yeah. Yeah. Can you hear that, folks? Yeah. That's the I'll probably end it out. That awful, disgusting sound you're making. But um, yeah, this is quite good. This is the set hike jerky. Yeah. Um made from fresh penguin, actually, ironically.

Speaker 4 47:57

So it's quite good.

Speaker 3 47:59

Um yeah, we highly recommend his books. I mean, if you listen to Seth Hike Podcast and then read, you know, you you do that maybe, you know, you you usually like what people do is they'll have a nice dinner, they'll listen to Seth Hike Podcast after dinner, then they might shower or something, then they read the Jerry books after that.

Speaker 2 48:17

Yeah, it's like a fireside chat, right? It's around the you know, the little speaker you got going on. You listen to podcasts.

Speaker 3 48:24

It's just a great lifestyle. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 48:26

Yeah, and I I forget the specifics, but the one where the the huge upset, it was like this worm that it was like kind of like a caterpillar type worm was going up against like a like a spider of some sort, something that like clearly should have killed it, and then like a bird comes in and kills the other thing, so they got the worm to like the sweet 16. Yeah, out of it. All right, like it had no business being there.

Speaker 2 48:49

It was awesome. So there's a tournament style, like a like a bracket tournament. Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 48:54

All right. What about what did you think of he he was he was really hyping up the King Cobra? I thought that was interesting. Like he, you know, which I mean. Well, uh is that like the toughest snake, you think, the King Cobra? I don't know.

Speaker 5 49:05

Listen, Jerry and I are Jesuits, okay? And so what you have to understand about uh Jesuit faith is that we don't believe in eating our brothers, and so you know, I think what Jerry was illustrating is that the cobra's eating other snakes, and that I don't care what part of the animal kingdom and where you are in the phyla of you know the eukaryotes that we all are. You don't eat your own kind, right? You don't eat your own kind. Yeah, so you don't want to agree with yeah. No, no, I think Jerry brought it up very appropriately, being like, hey dude, oh yeah, this guy's this guy's a bad bad dude because he's eating his own kind. Right? Yeah, we don't we don't believe in any so let me just establish right now the Seth Podcast is an anti-cannibalism podcast through any and all species. I'm just gonna lay that out there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you agree? Or I don't know. I'm getting a very milk toast response from you, Dan.

Speaker 3 50:01

No, I agree. Yeah, I I support that message.

Speaker 5 50:03

Yeah. I think you might be like cannibal.

Speaker 3 50:07

No, no, I support that. Yeah. I support what you said. Just to be clear. Good. Um yeah, no, that was like kind of uh an amazing 30 minutes of my life.

Speaker 5 50:18

I can't think of a better June podcast topic than talking with Jerry and and the fact that he's been at so many cool sports games and like you know, he he seems to the thing is Jerry's generation of New England fans, they they know all the crap like they went through a lot of crappy years with all of their different teams. Yeah, so I mean the curse of the Bambino, right? Yeah. So all of their stuff came to fruition when Jerry's in his what fifties, you know.

Speaker 3 50:45

Yeah. I mean the Celtics did win a lot. Like but when I forget when that was with like Bill Russell and Bob Coosey. Late 70s, early 80s, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the Patriots were bad, like he mentioned. Awful before.

Speaker 5 50:59

They were they were like they were Browns and Jets-esque, you know, back in the 70s and 80s. Yeah. But yeah.

Speaker 3 51:07

But uh But yeah, no, I mean, that was awesome. I I thought you did great talking to Jerry about your tat. Yeah, please, please give me all the feedback on my yeah, we'll give you a full report. You know, we always do. Yeah, we'll break it down. After every podcast, we all we each grade each other, we give like three-page reports.

Speaker 5 51:26

I thought like if I was going back to our golf 215, I feel like I get like a C for interrupting. Like the timing, there's a timing to all this, and I think what I loved about Jerry, he just plowed through, man. He's just like, you know, he's like, I'm gonna get my point in, and you know, not gonna mess around. But um, it was great. That was Dan, uh Panda. I tell you, um, the the marketing department is blocked. I guess it's not marketing. This would be the which which department uh got got Jerry on? Uh talent. Talent, yeah, talent acquisition. Yeah. So I tell you that they're R D we're working on the remote for this week, but talent acquisition. Yeah. A plus.

Speaker 3 52:06

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, if you I mean if any of our listeners ever have uh guest recommendations, or they you know, I'm always thinking, um, you know, always just like, is is there someone that might be good to be on the podcast? Like that, I'm always thinking about that. So we we've had great guests. Jerry was a great one. We have more upcoming that we're working through. Um, but yeah, like if anyone ever has like a relative or a friend, like we're we're happy to talk to you.

Speaker 5 52:34

Like your mailman, if you have a favorite mailman. I think there was like a 90% chance that wasn't even gonna happen. I think we just got lucky, man. He probably was just looking at his phone, like looking at an orca fight uh, you know, seal, and he was like, Oh, someone's calling me. He was doing research. And then he crushed it. It was awesome. So yeah, all right. Uh you know, just getting back to, you know, I feel a little more comfortable discussing this, Dan. I do think this AJ Brown, the new era of the Eagles, it's gonna be uh the receiving core, it's a money ball situation, right? We gotta replace AJ in the aggregate.

Speaker 3 53:07

Yeah, I was kind of thinking it is kind of interesting, just like our approach this offseason, how it just seemed like so often we were either picking up a free agent or drafting someone. Like I think like we got Lemon, we got Stowers, the tight end from Vanderbilt. Um we kept signing like Wicks and Hollywood Brown, and we re-signed Goddard, uh, Quezwalk. And so like it just seemed like Howie was like, Alright, I know AJ's leaving, I gotta just keep signing like random guys, like who aren't as good, but like one of them just got a hit, and it was almost like he was like scrambling to bring in offensive weapons. Um, but it all makes sense now, obviously. But but yeah, it'll be you know, and then there's the manion component to it, like how much of a genius is this offensive coordinator, and we shall see, you know.

Speaker 5 53:59

So yeah, what did you think of um did you listen to any of what the Grizz Grizz said, the Grizzler?

Speaker 3 54:04

He's from I still have to listen to that. I was hoping, yeah, I'll check that out.

Speaker 5 54:09

He's like a very soft-spoken southern, a little bit of a southern drunk. He went to Yale, right?

Speaker 3 54:14

Yeah, he he did come up. And he's from Lizard, where do we say Lizard Lake or something? Well, it's really funny.

Speaker 5 54:19

I was listening to another Philadelphia sports podcast. Yeah. Uh PHL Y. Shout out. They were talking about the fact that he actually lives in a town adjacent to Lizard Lick and that he just started using Lizard Lick as as his name just because it sounds better. Then Zebulon is actually the town he's from. Oh yeah. Which uh Staff boy is finding hilarious. But yeah, it's Zebulon. Zebulon. So he sounded good though. Yeah, I didn't see the greatest sounding. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I I'll tell you, sometimes our our media group, you know, they don't pull punches. So one of the questions to the Grizzler was like, Well, how do you feel having applied for the offensive coordinator job only to become you know working under someone who's the OC, you know, how do you feel about it? And he's like, I I wouldn't have come here if I had done that. I'm paraphrasing, of course. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, I you know, I I think the Grizzler is going to be a nice addition.

Speaker 3 55:11

I mean Yeah, I wonder if like like we interviewed him, he was a candidate. Like, I wonder if like Siriani and Howie were like, hey, like, let's try to get this guy still in here, or like I wonder if like Mania knew him and was like, hey, like I want you to be part of my I'm not totally sure.

Speaker 5 55:27

I'm assuming the latter, you know, it seems like most of the time you hire a coach and then every coach it it's it's like an amoeba, you know, they just grab all the other different stuff, or you know, the quills of a porcupine, if you will, you know, they did they just puncture into the uh other people and it just creates a network.

Speaker 3 55:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 55:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 55:47

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and also you know, time with the new coaching stuff, you know, uh Mannion, he's getting a lot of praise from Hertz, uh, what I'm hearing. You know, uh one of the quotes that Hertz had was said um the process with Mannion, it's been a really good process so far that he's come in and he's been very clear and he's been giving good direction, and he's definitely uh he definitely has a vision that he can understand. Um and uh it's very instructive and very helpful. So I think Hertz is picking up a lot of stuff here with the new OC, and that's a good thing here. So between Grizzler and and uh Grizzler. I think that's a good start. I think we we're starting to see some good groundwork here moving forward, and I think that will help us um, you know, once the season starts, if things start to click, I don't think we're gonna be thinking about AJ as much. You know, we're we're gonna be thinking beyond that and thinking about well, this whole offense has evolved in a way where we don't need a singular like superstar receiver. We can have multiple good players across the entire offense and spread the ball around.

Speaker 5 56:41

Well, the irony is don't we play against New England in the preseason? Isn't that the first pre-eleasing? We see that, yep. So the first or second. Oh, so it's the scumbag Ravens followed by I should have asked, I should have asked Jerry about the Ravens, be like, do you think this is just the worst bird in in the history of birds? You know, and and he'd probably be like, Yeah, totally. Uh for sure. Yeah. That was a horrible New England accent. I don't really have one. Do you have a good New England accent? No, I don't really. Yeah, it's so funny though, because you have a lot of New England, you know. Oh, you were about to do the codiac. Yeah. Um we should have asked him about some of his crazy friends stuff.

Speaker 3 57:23

I feel like we could have I I we should have made it. We wanted to respect his time.

Speaker 5 57:27

Wanted to respect his time. I really was focused on I I had to get the polar bear or excuse me, Kodiak bear grill answered. So my life is set from that. You know, I've I settled a 20 plus year argument um with one of my one of the clowns.

Speaker 2 57:42

Was your son's question asked?

Speaker 5 57:45

Uh yes. Oh, yeah? Indirectly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because one of the one of the things uh actually it you actually answered it. It was what's your next book? was actually one of the questions. Gotcha. So you you achieved that. Um the other one actually was what's the deadliest snake? So I think I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him King Cobra, and he'll never know whether or not that was actually the question. So shout out, little tat.

Speaker 3 58:09

Yeah, listen.

Speaker 5 58:11

Yeah, he'll feel betrayed.

Speaker 3 58:12

Um, that was funny. They he said the kid sent him to like 40 battles that he has to write, you know.

Speaker 5 58:19

He demanded it.

Speaker 3 58:20

Yeah, yeah. That's a strong willed school.

Speaker 5 58:22

That's a lot of kids. I hope he had Pure L. That's a lot of germs. I mean, the man for a man who fears viruses, he went into the the you know, 4,000 germ-ridden you know, spaces. Yeah, he's been doing it for 36 years.

Speaker 2 58:35

I mean, I don't know how much when did he say he started the the touring? Did he say he started it?

Speaker 5 58:41

Yeah, it's 36. So so the question is, you know, uh I'm I mean, clearly we're all pivoting to podcasting as our career. So, you know, once this become once we become world famous, I don't know. Yeah, we'll be doing this for the next 36 years. So do you think we'll end up going to 4,000 schools? I feel like that won't be our venue. We'll go to like 4,000 episodes for sure. 4,000 episodes. Yeah, that would that would get us.

Speaker 2 59:00

We're already on 26.

Speaker 5 59:02

That'll get us to a point where other, you know, there'll be some other set hike podcast that want to talk to Dan, and Dan will be like, huh. Uh yeah, we just did it because uh uh uh Makai Becton, and they're like, Who? Yeah, Mikai Becton. That's the whole reason we did this.

Speaker 2 59:17

Yeah, it's gonna be a very like interesting it's kind of it reminds me of the Sixers podcast by uh Spike Etskin and how he has his podcast for the Sixers called The Rights to Ricky Sanchez. It's like what's that about? Yeah, it's like a complete. He ended up a timber wolf, right? Yeah, I forget the whole story. Ricky Sanchez. Yeah, I think it was like a week. He signed them and then he released them, and then he went to Memphis. I don't I don't know the exact story, but shout out.

Speaker 3 59:42

Yeah, if we want to do 4,000, we just have to do this for the next almost 77 years. Yeah, I mean, at the pace we're going, yeah.

Speaker 2 59:49

Yeah, I don't see why we can't. Is that so that's one a week? We might have to increase our, you know.

Speaker 3 59:53

Yeah, if we keep it the one per week.

Speaker 2 59:55

77 years? 77 years.

Speaker 3 59:58

Increase our volume per week, then it's like 76 years and like 11 months. So we might have to like.

Speaker 5 1:00:03

So what if we do like two a day for the next 20 years? That would get us.

Speaker 3 1:00:07

Yeah, that would speed it up.

Speaker 2 1:00:08

Have a one an hour that would speed it up.

Speaker 4 1:00:11

Yeah, that would have an hour.

Speaker 2 1:00:13

Just record then post and record, just never stop.

Speaker 5 1:00:16

Yeah, that would be good. So 77, yeah, alright.

Speaker 3 1:00:19

That I mean I Or we could just keep yeah, keep meeting once a week for 77 years.

Speaker 5 1:00:23

Well, it's funny. When you were asking that last question, Panda, I was I I was interested where you were going with it, and I think you were it was it was really well uh said, but I I thought you were gonna ask for like advice about podcasting from him, and that would have been great. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:00:38

No, I mean it was crazy.

Speaker 5 1:00:40

He should do like an old guy New England. I mean, they're just they're audio books, right? Yeah. He would be great. I want to hear about his crazy roommates. I mean Yeah, he sounds like he's got some good stories. I I want the crazy roommate stories. Yeah. What's your craziest roommate story?

Speaker 3 1:00:56

Uh I I have some crazy ones too, yeah. But some of them I don't want to disclose.

Speaker 5 1:01:01

Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 1:01:02

You'll wait for episode that's immediately thought of.

Speaker 5 1:01:05

I have one. I have one of yours.

Speaker 3 1:01:08

I don't know. Do I want to?

Speaker 5 1:01:09

I'm I'm gonna disclose one.

Speaker 3 1:01:11

Um one includes a dishwasher and one includes a tree. That was the one, the tree one.

Speaker 5 1:01:16

So I I I feel like we can say that in your Oops, sorry. Is there a statute of limitations we're we have to go off of? Uh do you know that? I don't know if Am I talking about the wrong story about when you had a Christmas tree in your dorm?

Speaker 3 1:01:32

Oh yeah, there was a Christmas tree in my dorm.

Speaker 5 1:01:34

Is there are there multiple arborist, you know, misadventures that you've had?

Speaker 3 1:01:39

Uh no, that was the one.

Speaker 5 1:01:42

Yeah. Oh boy, it doesn't sound like that was the one. It was the one. Did you did you like defile an M elm tree or something that I don't know about?

Speaker 3 1:01:51

No, there was just a Christmas tree in the dorm. Yeah. But yeah, and then we disposed of it. But we had a festive time around it, around Christmas. Okay.

Speaker 5 1:02:01

Because uh from what I recall, um, this was back when you know the Facebook was the Facebook. Yeah. When I saw those photos, which God knows where they are now, um it took up the entire room.

Speaker 3 1:02:14

Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was I don't know, you were there. I I was in a yeah. So I I was in a room, yeah. Like we classic like dorm rooms are two roommates, but we did have a room. They like there was Penn State was like so popular at the time, and like there were four people in that room. Yeah. So one of the clown was there, and uh computer Scott, and uh and then you but the tree took up like most of the room, right?

Speaker 5 1:02:41

It was huge.

Speaker 3 1:02:42

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 1:02:43

So that that couldn't have been comfortable. I mean, I didn't live in that room, so we would have to, yeah. Okay, so but you had a different tree story with your roommates?

Speaker 3 1:02:53

No, that was the story.

Speaker 5 1:02:55

Okay, all right, all right. I oh listen, I I I understand that there's some tension here.

Speaker 3 1:03:00

We won't get into yeah, the yeah.

Speaker 5 1:03:02

Yeah, yeah, clearly. Uh but how about you, Stat Boy? Anything you want to share from uh where did you go to did you go to college? Did you have you have you read any books?

Speaker 2 1:03:11

No, I just go to conventions.

Speaker 5 1:03:12

Oh, okay. I'm self-taught. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, he's taught off the streets, the streets of statistics. Yeah, they're tough streets. Yeah. The mean streets of statistics. Yeah, he like walks down an alley and they're like, yo, you want to learn about these, you want to learn about these integers right here, man? Yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:03:29

Yeah, you guys would visit Penn State sometimes. That was always a joy. I know. Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:03:33

I can't disclose that an adventure.

Speaker 2 1:03:36

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:03:38

Yeah. I can't disclose any of that. Oh, I can. Yeah. No, no, I mean, we're we're starting to dig into personal territory, but I think we're at a point in the podcast. Do we have any uh emails to catch up on?

Speaker 2 1:03:48

Yeah, sure. Actually, yeah, I really appreciate it. I appreciate a lot. We're gonna we're we're gonna slowly get through them as we go here. So I you guys need to slow down. You guys are sending us too many emails. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 1:04:00

Let's just do any, and then it like it's like we really have like a lot of now.

Speaker 2 1:04:04

I do appreciate people listen and then they have a thing that references the episode. So then, like, you know, when I read it this week or whatever, if it's from like three weeks ago, it might be further out. So that no, keep doing the thing, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:04:17

Our listeners, I appreciate it. Yeah, we really appreciate that.

Speaker 2 1:04:19

So I'll go back a little bit.

Speaker 3 1:04:22

That's what it's all about. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 1:04:23

I think I'm gonna go to um keeping with the theme of who'd win type deal. Um, this comes from our friend just Matt. It's just Matt. Just Matt. Shout out. Um, this was sent uh a couple weeks ago. Um, but he said um he thinks thinks this is gonna spark a good discussion. He says, uh, do you think that uh you have a better chance? What do you think you have a better chance of doing one of the following? Okay, like so here's a list of five things, and he thinks which one of these do you just one of them. Yeah, pick one that you think you have the best of achieving out of all these options, right? Okay. Um he wants you to maybe have us discuss the ins and outs of this, and uh you get six months to train to achieve one of these things. Okay. The the one you think you're most successful in. So the first thing, ready? Here we go. And this is kind of timely because this was written before this happened. But uh first thing is you would have to block Miles Garrett across 20 offensive plays. And just to give you reference, uh Miles Garrett is a 6'4, 272 pounds.

Speaker 5 1:05:24

That's an impossible attack for us.

Speaker 2 1:05:26

These might all be impossible, but that's that's number one. Okay. Number two, uh you have to get uh a hit off of Paul Skeens, the pitcher from the Pirates, uh, with he throws 15 pitches. Uh and the hit uh is just not getting contact with the ball, it's actually you know, putting it into play. And uh you have no idea what he's gonna throw you pitch wise. It's gonna be a complete like unknown. Okay. So the best pitcher essentially in baseball, the young pitcher in baseball, you gotta try to get a real hit off of him. Um third one is you gotta beat LeBron James to eleven.

unknown 1:05:57

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:05:58

Just a game to eleven. I don't know if that's ones or twos, so let's say ones. Alright. Um fourth is you have to uh block a penalty kick from Messi. Messi takes five shots. You gotta get one of five blocked. Okay. And then the last one here is you gotta beat Michael Phelps in a 100-meter uh race. I don't he doesn't say what event. I'll just make assumption here. It's freestyle. And then uh for argument's sake, Phelps is his current condition, like where he is at his age now, not when he was Olympic, because you would no way win that. So there's your five.

Speaker 5 1:06:30

Yeah, the other ones are are far, far more reasonable there.

Speaker 2 1:06:33

Well, he might be, you know, I don't know what he's in shapewise now.

Speaker 3 1:06:35

He might be like, and the yeah, just the the question was what one do I feel I can most likely do? Yeah, which one do you think you can achieve out of the way? Six months of training.

Speaker 2 1:06:44

You get six months of trading, and there's those five options. Which one do you think you have the closest one to achieve? Now you might think you might fail all of them, but which one do you think you'll get the closest to achieving?

Speaker 5 1:06:52

All right, and I'll just summarize for for those of us who uh totally zoned out there. Um we've got we've got block Garrett for 20 plays, 20 plays. Okay, all right, fine. Hit hit a ball off of Skeens with 15 pitches. Mm-hmm. Um, James is in a game of 11. Uh Messi PKs, you have five. You have to block one of the five. One of five. And then um Phelps. Phelps in a hundred meter free screen. Current Phelps. So he's a he's actually about our age. Kern Phelps. How old is Michael Phelps? We have to look it up. I think he's pretty much our age, which is kind of fair, you know. What's his birth? Look up his month of birth. We don't want to dox Michael Phelps, obviously. Do you think he's a February guy? I bet you let let me know when you have the month. Don't say it. I know his month. Okay. And he is what month? I know yeah. What month do you think it is? I think he's like April. I think he's a March guy. No, he's a Junette. He's a Junette. He's a Junet.

Speaker 2 1:07:52

Yeah. Well it would be multiple Phelps. What what what number day? Um he is the 30th, so the last day in June. Oh yeah. Tough. And he is he is older than all of us.

Speaker 3 1:08:04

So I actually on his golden birthday if he won a summer Olympic.

Speaker 5 1:08:13

I don't know if that's no. Yeah, Beijing was well before that.

Speaker 3 1:08:17

Um I mean, I guess the summer, the summer Olympics are usually like July, August, or something.

Speaker 5 1:08:23

I I don't think. But yeah, they're more later in the summer. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, um but anyway. But yeah, let's get to the point here. I think my choice is number four. You think you could the messy PKs kick? Because all I have to do is guess correctly, and you know, uh and what if he Yeah, but even if you did guess correctly, like it's not that easy. You know, but I well I don't I don't know. I mean, if we are any of these easy? If you give me six months where I get to like watch film of Messi's PKs, and then I just have someone that's messy like, and I just practice for six months, I think there's a chance one of those five I get. Right. And what if he misses the net? Do I get does that count for me? It says block, so I'm I'm assuming you have to physically touch the ball.

Speaker 3 1:09:02

Alright. I still I'm I'm going to get it. You think you could like get there and like get like with the speed of like his shots gonna be super fast.

Speaker 5 1:09:11

I I'm I got six months to figure it out.

Speaker 3 1:09:14

Um I'm going four to answer the question. How about you get four? I mean, I love this thing, I and I know people are gonna be like like I I just love playing basketball, so I I think like if I could just go on a streak of hitting threes, like I could just LeBron James. Like assuming it's like make it take it, you know. But you don't think it's gonna block every one of your shots? I'll just like back up and like keep shooting deep threes. Wow, okay, alright. I mean I can't like Steph Curry or something like that. Like I'm not doing catch. Like Miles, we all agree Miles Garrett's crazy.

Speaker 5 1:09:43

But no one's doing it. Number one's impossible. I think number five's damn near impossible. One in five, Phelps and and Garrett are impossible, uh in my opinion. I mean two, you could get lucky, right? Like you could just hit something, you could just you could hit it, right? Like that could happen.

Speaker 3 1:10:01

And it also wouldn't hurt. Like the thing about Garrett, like you could get like run over, like it's gonna be painful, you know? Yeah. And then yeah, like the yeah, like the it the worst is just a swing and a miss with the pitcher. Like you're not no pain.

Speaker 5 1:10:13

I mean, I guess if you you get tattooed by a 93 or something.

Speaker 3 1:10:17

But he's a good pitcher, he'll throw it right down the middle, you know.

Speaker 2 1:10:20

So four, yeah, number four. You're three. Yeah, how about you? I'm gonna go one. Oh my god. I agree. How do you define blocking? Exactly. There's no definition as far as like what's success here. Like, is it just me landing up against him? And he can run me over 20 times, but what's success? Is it not?

Speaker 5 1:10:40

I would argue that if you get run over, you have not blocked him.

Speaker 2 1:10:44

Well, yeah, but what achieves his success? Is it him going after a quarterback and sacking a quarterback? Does he have five seconds to do that? Is it me just impeding his progress for a second? You know, I don't know. So I think that's the most open-ended question, and I think that's the easiest because everything else requires me to do something. Like, there's no way you're getting a hit off skeins. Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. There's zero chance. It's literally the hitting a baseball at that speed, plus with the unpredictability of his like sequencing and how fast he's throwing versus location, there's no way you're getting a hit. I think that's probably the most I think that is probably the hardest thing on this list. I think LeBron could probably take it easy on you, you could score a couple points, get kind of close, but whatever. I think even like Michael Jordan might have lost a game once at one point to somebody in a camp. Like as a whatever. Messi, I totally think that's the most achievable. I think uh just just guessing the location on the net and jumping and getting hit by it. Yeah, that's just luck. I think Phelps, even though he is maybe older and out of his prime, he would smoke. He's still he still's got freakish size in a pool, and he's probably still thin. There's no way that even six months of training every day, I'm gonna be able to reach his capability in the pool. Okay, so you're going I'm a former swimmer, so it's like there's no way.

Speaker 5 1:11:56

Yeah, you're going off of a technicality with Gary. Yes, I'm going with the most logically achievable, and and Dan just wants to play with LeBron. Dan just thinks he's Steph correctly. Well, I'm gonna shoot threes for six months every hour in the day. But LeBron is so tall and so athletic, he's just gonna block everyone. You're just gonna have to pump, are you just gonna practice pump fakes for six months?

Speaker 3 1:12:15

Well, I would like tell them, I would try to like get him distracted. I you know, they're it didn't say there's no rules here.

Speaker 5 1:12:21

So six months of like what stand-up comedy or something, or like look over there!

Speaker 3 1:12:25

Yeah, I would bring like some animals and just like have them walking around the coin.

Speaker 5 1:12:28

Oh my god, it's Jerry Pilot. A King Cobra movie unleashed. Well, listen, that's a taboo animal. Like, we're not a King Cobra podcast. I think we established this earlier. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:12:39

But yeah, good question, Justin Matt. Thank you. That was a great question.

Speaker 5 1:12:42

Yeah, uh the answer's four, number four.

Speaker 2 1:12:44

Yeah, that's your answer.

Speaker 3 1:12:45

All right.

Speaker 2 1:12:46

Uh all right, we'll give it to another one and then we'll we'll move further down the line. But all right, so this one didn't have a sign signature, but I would say it's uh the clown bros. Ah. One of the ice bros. Oh, one of the ice clowns? Yeah. Nice. Uh it's a question clown. Good evening, Jens. This actually came from an Instagram uh DM. We got DM'd. Oh, nice. Yeah, good evening. Good evening, Question Clown. He just slid right in there.

Speaker 3 1:13:09

People may have done that before. We just didn't see it, so we apologize. But yeah, like people DM.

Speaker 2 1:13:14

Yeah, this clown just slid right in there, just nice ice slide into our DMs. Yeah. I appreciate that. Good evening. Yeah, so good evening. Good evening. He's like, uh he says he's the better half of the ice clowns and he wanted to just check in.

Speaker 5 1:13:25

I already know who which clown it is.

Speaker 2 1:13:26

And then we emoji uh a clown head to that, which is cool. All right, so here it goes. Uh he says the pain of the damn mentioned uh briefly at the end of the most recent episode. Uh, but he says he thinks that this episode that we're currently doing is the 26th, which is correct. Yeah. Um and he says he would like us to spend more time talking about all the Philadelphia greats that wore the number 26. Oh. He says, somewhat of an odd number to be worn uh by so many players in the city. He's got a couple here listed, and I'll probably just hold off on mentioning them because I want you guys to think about it a little bit. Okay. Um let's go back and forth.

Speaker 3 1:14:01

Yeah, I mean, first of all, thanks for listening to what I said. That's a true honor uh clown, you know. That's true honor, you clown. I mentioned yeah, I remember, and I also like re-listen to our podcast like all the time, you know. Yeah, yeah. That's where I most of our listens are. I'll meant I'll I'll say one of the ones that I mentioned. I don't know if you recall Dr. Tet. I do. I have some re recollection. Okay. I'll say Saquon. I'll say Chase Ultley. Okay. And you know, I was let me think. I I do have one that came to mind. Um I think he's right. Staffway can look it up. Uh Leto Shepherd.

Speaker 5 1:14:39

Oh, okay. I think that's right. Um I had Miles Sanders. Nice.

Speaker 2 1:14:45

Yeah, it's the Eagles.

Speaker 5 1:14:46

Yeah, Leto was 26. Yeah. Was Miles Sanders? I don't think he was, actually. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 1:14:54

What was Miles Sanders?

Speaker 5 1:14:55

Uh I actually uh that's the extent of my 26 knowledge, I think, to unfortunately.

Speaker 3 1:15:01

That's it. Yeah, you know, I I have another Kenny G. Gainwell was like. Yeah, Sanders was 24. Kenny G? Rat. I forget if Kenny G was. Gainwell. I think he switched his number a lot or a couple times. Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 2 1:15:20

It is weird that Saquon was a good one. Saquon, right? Utley was one. Um I think how about the Sixers? Uh MB'd? He's 21.

Speaker 5 1:15:30

Oh I honestly don't know.

Speaker 2 1:15:33

Uh well, he was uh one of the the brothers or one of the the famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 5 1:15:50

I don't know. Yeah, it's I'll tell you the clown stumped me, man. Um I'm stumped. There were some good. Any flyers? Any famous flyers?

Speaker 3 1:15:57

I think Tony Hunt for the uh Penn State. I think he was 26. He was like one of my favorite Penn State football players. Oh, where'd he go to college? Penn State. Tony Hunt. Yeah, yeah. And then the Eagles drafting him.

Speaker 2 1:16:12

Uh so Brian Prop. Oh, Brian Propp.

Speaker 5 1:16:15

Is he a Hall of Famer? Did he get did that get retired? No. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 1:16:20

Yeah. And then it looks like um Scott Hartnell. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Scotty Hartnell. I like Scotty Hartnell. He was the sideshow Bob of The Flyers back in the day. He I like watching. Was this isolated to Philadelphia? And Michael Remberg was 26. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:16:38

Um Yeah, I think he's wanted to keep in specific to Philadelphia. Yeah, because there's a there's some wild 26s outside of that. Um in fact, Chase Ellie's number nine on a top ten of 26s. Really? Number one is Saquon in this, and again, this is just a random website. Number two is another future Hall of Fame running back. Number two. Number two in the list. 26. Or 26. For the Eagles? No, just for for the just to the number. He he's probably most famous in a purple uniform. Famous right now.

Speaker 2 1:17:15

Is it Peterson?

Speaker 5 1:17:16

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:17:19

I don't think Rembert wore 26. Did we say that? Sorry. I thought it was. I just quickly thought it was cool.

Speaker 5 1:17:25

Well, that's it one more time. You may have been wrong. So yeah. 26. J.

Speaker 2 1:17:31

A. J. was 26. Remember J. A J? He was actually one of those, uh he was one of those Howie picks that really kind of felt like it was like a big time a trade deadline.

Speaker 3 1:17:41

Yeah, that was mid-season.

Speaker 5 1:17:42

He he's from is he from the UK or he has UK?

Speaker 3 1:17:45

Yeah, he has UK roots. Yeah, UK roots. I mean he was a critical part of it.

Speaker 5 1:17:50

Do you think he was a good hang in the locker room?

unknown 1:17:52

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:17:53

Do you think he was?

Speaker 3 1:17:54

He was a popular uh isn't there a beer in like it's like Cigar City, I think, like the Tampa Brewer. There's a Tampa Brewery in there. Yeah. Remember we use I we used to always call it the J Ajay beer. Because it's Hy, yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of looks like it.

Speaker 2 1:18:10

Yeah. I like how it's J spay J A Y and then Ajay has J A Y spelled in it, too. It's like suit double J's.

Speaker 5 1:18:16

And if we're really thinking to our early roots in this podcast, I mean that name is one of our that would be a delight to have on our team. J's, A's everywhere.

Speaker 2 1:18:25

J's, yeah. Jalen Johnson, the JJ there? Jalen Johnson's.

Speaker 3 1:18:30

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good question. Yeah. Yeah, but Chase, you clown Hotley and Saquon. I mean, yeah, they're two with the big ones for sure.

Speaker 5 1:18:38

I think so. I and and I think that's a fun number. I mean, if you what's what's your jersey number if you got to have one for the Sixers, Dan?

Speaker 2 1:18:47

If you were a because it it depends on the Bron here. So uh what's your jersey number?

Speaker 5 1:18:52

What jersey are you gonna wear? What number?

Speaker 3 1:18:54

I like uh four, that's always been my favorite number. Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:18:57

He's just gonna walk on the court, death. Nice. Death becomes him. Well, he did he did commit to that earlier, so he has to stay with that. I'm gonna go with 60. That's my favorite number. Yeah, that was that was my favorite number. You've worn that actually in real games to have. Yeah, so I'll stick with it. How about you? What was your number in swimming?

Speaker 2 1:19:16

Yeah, that they don't really have them. I guess your lumber's your lane you swim in, I guess. Yeah, what's what was your favorite lane to swim in? I mean, you always want to be kind of in the middle, right? So you want to be a three or four, depending on if you're I mean, you're gonna be playing football block in Miles Garrett.

Speaker 3 1:19:28

So yeah, we're like, what number are you wearing?

Speaker 2 1:19:30

Yeah, well, I mean, if I'm but I'm not gonna wear alignment number. I'm gonna wear whatever I want to wear. Fine. Yeah, yeah. I mean, geez. I mean, don't get out of here. We saw what had just happened with Miles Garrett's situation, right? When they traded for Verse. The Rams product. And then what's his name?

Speaker 5 1:19:45

He just he totally he jersey bobbed.

Speaker 2 1:19:48

Yeah, he just said I'm wearing uh what's the quarterback's name? Dylan Gabriel. Yeah, Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel. He just weared it. He's like, he's like, that's my number. He's like, wait, that's my number. He's like, I'm wearing it. Like I'm literally currently wearing it on the field. He's like, all right.

Speaker 3 1:19:59

So I think they're just both wearing it right now. Gabriel's gonna have to find a new number.

Speaker 5 1:20:03

I well, I don't know. I mean, I think I think possessions nine-tenths of the law. I would actually sue Miles Garrett for that if I was well.

Speaker 2 1:20:11

The problem is, I know when you switch numbers, the NFL requires you to pay to buy all the jerseys back for what's already in circulation. So they don't have to sell that. It's an old one. Oh, interesting. So like that, actually, there was a story about like um um what's his name? Devontae Adams going to the Jets.

Speaker 1 1:20:30

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:20:31

And he went to the Jets and he's like, Oh, cool. Uh you know, I want to get my number here in the New York City. And he talks to the player that had his number, I forget what number was, 17, I think.

Speaker 1 1:20:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:20:41

And uh the dude was like, like, absolutely not. I will not like let you get the number at all. Like he and then he threw out a f a number that was like insane, and then he's like, Oh, that's funny. Well, I'll give you like a quarter of that. And he's like, No, I want that number. Like, that's the amount you need to pay for your number. And he's like, Oh, okay. Like, it was kind of funny because it's like he was a nobody on the team, yeah, but he was like super confident in it. So, yeah, because you have to buy and then you have to buy all the jerseys up in the league to then re you know, uh sell new jersey numbers. So I mean that's why it's a billion-dollar business. But going back to where I my favorite number, and I've always enjoyed this, is 21. I really liked it. I something about the number. I every time I see uh professional athletes wearing it, there's always something unique about that player for some reason, at least from my perspective.

Speaker 5 1:21:22

21's a good number. Yeah. I think the fastest number is 11. It looks fast. 11's the fastest number. Brown was 11. And beads 21. I know. 21's a fast number. 41's not as fast, and it's you know a prime number, which is weird. You know, I don't like that one. 51's an awful number. Yeah. I was briefly 62 at Syracuse for my first year, and then I got 60 when the senior uh senior guy uh left. And it actually was like it was first come, first serve, was how we did it. Yeah. I didn't have to pay anything or anything. And I and I'm pre-NIL, so no monies were exchanged. That's good.

Speaker 2 1:22:00

All right, I'll get one more. This is not so much question, but just some comments from one of our listeners. Okay. You know, I think it's uh, you know, a good critique of us. You know, let's we gotta be grounded sometimes. Yeah, we always say questions are we need to cut Panda Dan down too, Peg.

Speaker 5 1:22:15

Sometimes yeah.

Speaker 2 1:22:16

So this was uh from our 25th episode, we got congratulated by. He's like, congrats on 25. Oh thank you. And uh apparently he liked it so far. Yeah, the listeners comments. Each week um this individual believes that it gets more entertaining, so that's good, right? We're getting better. Okay.

Speaker 3 1:22:34

Sounds like a nice guy.

Speaker 2 1:22:35

And then uh keep it rolling, yeah, whatever. Yeah, so a couple of things. That's great criticism. So get ready no, get ready for it. Number one, we're getting hit with number one here. Okay. Please do not criticize Rory for expelling a fan at the PGA championship. All right, well, this person doesn't love him. Hold on, let me finish. Oh, okay. Uh, golf uh world loves Rory, and it Rory is a true gentleman of the game, and the etiquette and courtesy uh that he believes is still important. Uh and that he says that Rory is considered an ambassador of good sportsmanship in golf. And he says, uh, maybe we can learn a lesson from this, as you know, us listeners. He says that uh the PGA championship is not a US game, that it's an international game, therefore yelling USA in an international tournament is kind of inappropriate. Okay, there you go. Uh may I offer a rebuttal? No.

Speaker 5 1:23:27

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:23:28

Wait for the rebuttal. Yep. All right. Comment number two to Dan, Panda Dan here. Um, it's the Ohio State University owns the, not no one else. So the whole the Great Penn State University, it does not, it does not occur there. So just he just wants to know. The Ohio State is the only true the university. Oh, okay. Yep. No, you have to wait. You have to wait. We have to wait. All right, and number three, uh, and this one is uh when might we, set set hike podcast, uh, start you know, going and calling for more people's questions? Because apparently I feel like we don't do that enough. We bring in guests to just have a conversation, but I guess we should be just randomly cold calling people for questions. So it says, It says he seems like we're getting a little stiff with our live chatter to our fans at times, yep. Um, and that uh maybe we're intimidated to have a live discussion with questions. So I I I encourage this listener to please send um some contact information for us because I don't have anything here from you, and we will certainly have a in person or not in person, but a live discussion with you uh and maybe shoot some some questions your way, and we can have a really good conversation with this individual. Because I I think this person loves it. And and the sign off here is uh bless your hearts.

Speaker 3 1:24:42

So we're yeah, we remember this person.

Speaker 5 1:24:45

Okay, all right. Um boy, all right. Uh a lot to unpack. Yeah. I I I do appreciate um you know, I'm trying to think, you know, there are feedback sandwiches. I mean, it's a kind of corporate speaker. Yeah, I'm sure you're familiar with this, right? You you give a positive thing, then you put your negative in the middle, and then you finish with a positive. This was the opposite. This was like this was like, you know, just a like a feedback, I don't know, shitstorm. You know, it just went downhill. Yeah, just a little just enough to get you there, and then you start tumbling down the hill and it's just rolling, right? And uh, and then he finishes with a bless your heart exclamation point. So if I may, for my rebuttal for number one, um I believe that the PGA championship was played in Philadelphia with the state of Pennsylvania in the uh home of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, where I believe there were certain rights that were deemed inalienable, um, such as the freedom of speech. And so I think the speech provided during that, including telling Rory where his ball was, which was USA, was well within the bounds of the Declaration of Independence, and therefore if you don't like America, you can get out. That's my point. Yeah. Dan, your thoughts on two?

Speaker 3 1:26:08

Yeah, I mean, well, also three I'd like to address. I mean, he's whoa, okay. I mean, whoever this is is more than to call or we need some call information. I mean, you could even come to the Sed Hike studios here in Happy Town and We're not afraid of anybody who blesses our hearts.

Speaker 5 1:26:27

We're not afraid. We will take them on.

Speaker 3 1:26:29

We have an open door policy, we have an open phone policy. Like we bless your heart. We want to talk to you.

Speaker 5 1:26:34

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna we'll say mono emano.

Speaker 3 1:26:39

But uh but yeah, number two. I mean, I I guess I said that on a podcast, the the Penn State University. Um I mean, I didn't mean to offend anyone, but uh Well you did. I I don't see why Ohio State even has that title, to be honest. I mean I I re you know, I I have I know people that went to I have a cousin that went to Ohio State, I have uh friends, uh uh computer Scott uh likes Ohio State, so I do respect the the college. Um but I I I if I want to call my alma mater the Penn State University, I I think I'm more than welcome to do that.

Speaker 5 1:27:16

Uh I think if we were to summarize this email, there's a person here who hates freedom of speech, and while he defends a non-American for kicking an American out for saying America during an American PGA championship, he then also decides to tell us that Ohio State University has control over a definite article in the English language. So, I mean, which way is it, brother? Yeah, and then he blesses our hearts again. You know, so yeah, bring it on. I'm ready for any and all questions. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:27:51

Yeah, yeah, let's talk, let's do it live. You know, yeah, do it live.

Speaker 5 1:27:54

We'll do it live. All right, very thank you. No, that we that we appreciate. This was uh very special. Special episode of the Set Hug podcast. And I think twenty-six was a great number for this. Um do we have corrections at this juncture?

Speaker 2 1:28:07

Well, you know, I think we had a good inter interview there with Jerry. I didn't really get too much. But we did a small talk prior to that. So a small thing here. So we talked about the best Eagle ever, receiver-wise, here. And I I just want to bring out some facts about the player that we were discussing, the TO versus the AJ, the double player. Please. So TO had two seasons, AJ had four, comparing their best seasons. Okay. Uh right. So TO had a year where he played 14 games, whereas AJ had a 17-game season. So there was a three-game difference here between the two. Um, T.O. in his best season averaged 93.5 yards per game. AJ's best average that year for his best season was 81.2 yards. So three more games. And he had three more games, right. So yeah, it helps bring the average down. Uh-huh. Right. Next. But if you get to the you know, the the collective stats that gathered in that year, which was 2004 for T.O., he had 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns in 14 games, whereas AJ had 1,496 yards. So that's more. Yeah, but three more games.

Speaker 1 1:29:10

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 1:29:10

And he had 11 touchdowns. So TO had more touchdowns in three less games, and he had almost the equivalent amount of yards.

Speaker 5 1:29:17

Uh I mean, if if you think 1,100 and 40 or 1,500 are.

Speaker 2 1:29:21

I mean, you're looking at a difference of almost 300 yards. It's another 100 yards per game, which Tio was averaging almost that at that point, 93. So he Well, don't get hurt, Tio. Right. So I mean, TO probably would have had the same amount of yards if he had three more games, and he probably would have had more touchdowns in 14 in that season.

Speaker 5 1:29:37

Yeah. No, no, no. Listen, TO had a hell of a year. But the truth is AJ's got a ring with us, and he did it for four years.

Speaker 2 1:29:44

So and then and then that brings me to another point, right? So Super Bowl. So TO only played one Super Bowl for as an Eagle. AJ had two.

Speaker 5 1:29:51

Was he in any other Super Bowls, real quick? TO?

Speaker 2 1:29:53

Did TO ever get back to the Super Bowl? I don't think. That was it, right? Yeah. He was with the 49ers and then he went to the Cowboys and then the Captain Black Black. Yeah, he never went to the battle. He's he went around weird places after that. But yeah, I think the Eagles was the only one. He went to the did he go? No, he never went to the rebits. Um, so in the Super Bowl, TO had 14 targets in his Super Bowl. Remember, he came back from that ankle injury? Like amazing.

Speaker 5 1:30:16

That was amazing. And we were dominated. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:30:20

He dominated it. Now AJ had 11 targets total in his two games. So T.O. had three more targets in one less game than AJ. And he was playing off a recent injury from six weeks prior. They both had the same amount of receptions. They both had nine, so equivalent, but AJ had one more game. Receiving yards, AJ only had uh what is that, 17 more yards. So TO had 122 yards in that one game, whereas TO AJ had 190 or 1839 in two games. And uh the only thing AJ had more here was two touchdowns versus TO zero touchdowns.

Speaker 5 1:30:53

But Tio could easily had a two rate. One ring versus zero ring.

Speaker 2 1:30:59

But I wouldn't say AJ was the primary reason for that the Super Bowl ring. He was a key part of the win, but he wasn't well reasoned. I think Teal was the reason why we were in that Super Bowl. If we didn't have Tio in that game, we'd have been blown out.

Speaker 5 1:31:11

That's that's totally fair. I would say Tio might have the best Eagles receiver year of all time, but AJ's the best Eagles receiver of all time. I'm willing to compromise there.

Speaker 3 1:31:24

I think that's a good way to sum it up. I I commend you for that, Dr. Tap, and I agree.

Speaker 2 1:31:29

Yeah. Bless your heart. That's yeah. So yeah, that's uh that's the the stat of the week. That's the statue.

Speaker 3 1:31:37

No, this is a great episode. We do have the World Cup starting a we on the 11th, so coming up. Yeah the first games are then. So the way that works, yeah. So it's um there's 48 teams, there's 12 groups? Yeah, 12 groups, 48 teams. If you finish top two in your group, you move on to the round of 32, and then eight of the third place teams of the twelve groups will also advance to the thirty-two. So thirty-two of the forty-eight make the knockout round, and then it's a straight up single elimination bracket, similar to Jerry's brackets of 32. Who will wear? Who would win? We'll see. I mean, yeah, Spain and France are the favorites. Uh Argentina is very good. Who are you gonna pick? They got I like Spain. Spain.

Speaker 5 1:32:31

He says Spain. Who do you got, Stat Boy? I'm gonna go. I is Italy in it?

Speaker 2 1:32:34

I don't even know. Italy's not in it, but you can pick them surprise me. I'm not gonna choose them. Um let's go with the homedown boys. Let's go USA. Why not? I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 1:32:43

I'm going Uruguay in a Uruguay, wow. Uruguay. They're pretty good though. Yeah, yeah. Thank you.

unknown 1:32:48

Thank you.

Speaker 3 1:32:49

It's cool because like Cristiano Ronaldo's playing, Messi's playing, Mbappé, uh, a lot of like the top guys.

Speaker 2 1:32:55

I'll be talking about studying Hansen Bros are playing.

Speaker 5 1:32:58

I'll be studying the young like the PKs, Messi's PKs, because I'm taking on number four after this. Well, guess what?

Speaker 2 1:33:04

There's good, and just to speak to how many matches in total this whole tournament is it's 104 matches. It's a lot of soccer boys and girls.

Speaker 5 1:33:11

Yeah, I can't wait to act interested in this. I'm very excited to feign interest. I'm very good at that. We got the Americans how they do. Yeah. French Open tennis.

Speaker 4 1:33:24

As long as Rory's okay with it, it's okay with us to say USA during our game.

Speaker 3 1:33:30

Uh yeah, for tennis fans, we have the French Open final. They call Rollin Garros. Uh that's the final this this weekend for both the women and the men.

Speaker 4 1:33:39

Si vous play.

Speaker 3 1:33:40

A lot of like it's gonna be new. It's not like any of the regulars, like Sinner lost, Alcaraz isn't playing, Sabalenka lost on the women's side. So it's like it's like these more unknown things.

Speaker 2 1:33:50

Yeah, we need we need some I think we need some tennis experts to show up here for us, or maybe even some soccer experts. I would look forward to that. I feel a little light there, even though we we do have a good in-house, but I feel like we need to get a little more experience. We'll see what we can do.

Speaker 5 1:34:04

Yeah, yeah. Well, let me just say, welcome to June. This is the first of 77 Junes we're going to experience in the Sidepack podcast. And uh boy, this is a special one. Um I think it was such a cool opportunity. You know, they say never meet your heroes, but you probably should have them on your podcast because that was outstanding. And I would like once again to reiterate that the silverback gorilla is the correct answer to the silverback versus Kodiak Bear, according to only the guy who spent 37 years writing books about who would win an animal battle. So um I feel so blessed and privileged to be a part of this uh very special podcast.

Speaker 3 1:34:46

Yeah, yeah. Send in mail if you disagree with what Dr. Tat just said. Uh, you know, the debate can stay alive if you want, but I I fully agree. Uh absolute joy to have Jerry on the podcast. It was a real gift, and uh hopefully the listeners enjoyed it. And we look forward to a great summer of podcasting and and uh enjoying this journey we're on.

Speaker 2 1:35:16

Yeah. And yeah, I yeah, again, I echo all the same things, and I I do want to give a shout-out to our younger listeners. I really hope you enjoyed this episode. I hope you become a lifelong listener of said hike and read exactly. Don't don't listen to podcasts. Just read. Well, listen to our podcast. Read the podcast. Read the transcript. Just read the transcript of the podcast, and then read as you go. Yeah. And uh and a big sh- I don't want to give a shout-out to another young listener, uh, Mr. Jude. Mr. Jude, one of my buddy's sons, he played in a championship game today and uh he won. So we got you. We got a young champion in the baseball? A baseball champion. Way to go, Jude. So uh we've got to really celebrate that. I'm gonna go get hammered tonight and and celebrate. We're gonna have a parade. Yeah, we're gonna have a parade. Yeah, he's not even my sit.

Speaker 5 1:36:03

Who would win? Jude. Jude would win. Yeah, hey Jude. Um, yeah, so for the Seth podcast, I'm Dr. Tat. And I'm Panda Dan. It's that boy. Congrats to Jude. Congrats to the Silverback Gorilla.

Speaker 3 1:36:18

It's Jude. We had Darius, Jude won. It's like JJI just crushed.

Speaker 5 1:36:25

Let's all bless each other's hearts and let's enjoy uh some fiction alphabet books. Yeah. And listen, even though fiction died in 1990, it's gonna stay alive here in this podcast, folks. Uh and again, let's let's go. Let's go, birds. Yeah, let's go. Let's go, Silverback Gorillas. Let's win it all, baby. Let's do it.

Speaker 2 1:36:46

Whoops, see you.