C's Get Coaching Trees

With Eagles training camp quickly approaching, Set Hike! has reached the dangerous part of summer where Ancient Greek literature, Eagles roster projections, and fantasy football delusions all intersect. Naturally, the crew sends LeBron on an MJ-esque, spite-fueled Last Dance, plagiarizes The Odyssey into the inevitable Set Hike! Productions masterpiece The Pizza Odyssey, and deconstructs Shanahan's (Mike's) NFL coaching tree that somehow contains flowers, bramble bushes, weeds, and Nick Sirianni scampering around like a squirrel. Meanwhile, the Eagles offensive line becomes an anatomy joke, Zulu Nation begins accepting laminated résumés for a fantasy football league vacancy, and Turtle proposes a third-place NFL game so offensive that FIFA itself is nearly banned from the podcast for eternity (and may God have mercy on your soul, Turtle). The mailbag wraps up with an epic blind coaching résumé showdown that pits some serious football royalty head-to-head-to-head. By the end, championships are counted, suspicions are raised, and Set Hike! once again proves that no résumé is safe once Stat Boy fires up the spreadsheets...

Key Topics Discussed

00:21 — Jermaine Mayberry Correction & the Dog Days of Summer

02:51 — LeBron Rumors, Retirement Cities, & his Last Dance

11:47 — The Odyssey, Blomo & 3,000-Year-Old Spoilers

17:35 — The Pizza Odyssey & Matt Damon vs. Brad Pitt

22:24 — Scylla, Charybdis & the Trolley Problem

24:40 — Eagles Training Camp: QB Battles & Roster Questions

31:37 — Eagles Defense & the Great Coaching Tree Debate

39:10 — NFL Copycats and 20th Season of Zulu Nation Fantasy Football

57:33 — Turtle’s NFL Third-Place Game Proposal

01:04:12 — The Blind Coaching Résumé Showdown

01:12:12 — Corrections, Low-IQ NFL History & the Football Water Slide

Statistics & Facts

• Michael Jordan previously owned part of the Charlotte Hornets; sold his stake in 2023, having owned it from 2010–2023
• LeBron's business/ownership history: acquired a 2% stake in Liverpool FC in 2011 for roughly $50 million; in 2021 he converted that into equity in Fenway Sports Group (Liverpool's parent company, which also owns the Boston Red Sox)
• Homer (not Simpson) is traditionally credited as the author of The Odyssey, though it originated as oral tradition
• Tank Bigsby — incorrectly listed by NFL.com as 23 years old; Stat Boys solves World hunger by noting he's actually currently 24, turning 25 at the end of August 2026
• Sydney Brown (nicknamed "the cruise missile" / "human battering ram") is no longer on the Eagles — now with the Atlanta Falcons
• Mike Shanahan (father) coached the Washington Redskins from 2010–2013
  Assistant coaches under him at the time included: son Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur (now Packers HC), Mike McDaniel (Dolphins HC), Sean McVay (Rams HC), and Raheem Morris (fired as Falcons HC last year)
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Memorable Quotes

"Like likable or a fight?" - Panda Dan seeking clarity on the Matt Damon v. Brad Pitt debate

"Likeable, Brad Pitt, fight, probably Matt Damon." - Panda Dan's official stance 1-second later on the Matt Damon v. Brad Pitt debate

"I'm going to the Washington Wizards. I'm pulling a Jordan. I'm going to the Washington Wizards as LeBron, but I'm going to win it. I'm going to prove something that Jordan could not do. " - Stat Boy

"I think about Scylla and Charybdis, I often think about Eagles football. I think of Scylla as the passing game and Charybdis as the running game... you can't have too much of either and you have to navigate both. " - Dr. TAT

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Transcript

Dr. TAT 0:20

Welcome everyone to the 30th inaugural episode of the Set Hype podcast. I am Dr. Tat, and with me as always is Panda Dan. Step one. Jermaine Mayberry was the guy I was thinking of. Oh shit. Jermaine Mayberry. Shout out to one Sean to rule them all. He corrected me for it. He corrected me. Yeah. Jermaine Mayberg. Yeah, it was a fruit-related man. Was he an O-lineman or a D-lineman? Yeah, Jermaine was an O-line. Yeah, that was the Barry I was thinking of. A Mayberry. Yeah, yeah. Jermaine Mayberry. Jermaine Mayberry. Do you remember him? He played probably what, late 90s or so? Or mids? I think he was early thousands. Yeah, I think he was like the early Andy Reid era. I don't know if he was a first round pick. Was he a Ray Ray Road?

Stat Boy 1:09

He's 52 years old. Wow. And he was selected in the first round of the 96th draft by the Texas school? He went to Texas School. But there's a couple of those. The University of Texas.

Dr. TAT 1:22

Texas A N.

Stat Boy 1:23

That is right. Yeah.

Dr. TAT 1:24

Kingsville. Oh, yeah. 25th overall. Germany. That's who I was thinking of.

Stat Boy 1:30

He also played one season with the Saints. So he pretty much was an Eagles entire career. Good for him.

Dr. TAT 1:36

There was a stretch where I think the Eagles and Saints were kind of simpatico, you know, friendly. Yeah. So wait, so I so it was one Sean listening and then he Oh yeah. He called you up. Yeah, yeah. You texted me. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. Shout out. Welcome, one Sean. I didn't. Yeah. He's actually in seeking. He's in broadcasting. Oh, yeah. So he's he's he understands and and you know he knows what we go through. Yeah. Well, he he he polite he's very polite, you know. He he when he listens to our podcast, it's probably like watching a toddler on a tricycle, but train wreck. He's still yeah, train wreck uh tomato tomato. Yeah. But Jermaine Mayberry, who I is who I was thinking of. Um, how are you doing? Pretty good. Yeah, yeah. I uh yeah, I'm doing well. Just trying to enjoy the enjoy these dog days of summer, as they say, right? Uh yeah, excited for the the Eagles start training camp next week. Phillies have some big series this week. They got the Dodgers right now, and then they got the Yankees this weekend. World Cup final was exciting this past weekend on Sunday. Yeah, I think that's you know, tennis, golf are going on. But but yeah, I mean sports-wise, pretty exciting. Oh yeah, really just enjoying the summer.

Stat Boy 2:50

MLB draft or trade deadlines coming up? Yeah. Lebron announcements coming up. Is LeBron's gonna play baseball? No, but I do have some inside information on LeBron. Oh, what's that? I'm not gonna share it right now. You're not gonna share it right now. I don't want to get sued or are you gonna share it after the show? I don't want to post it and then have to take it down.

Dr. TAT 3:06

Do you think LeBron James is worried about your post in particular? Okay. Yeah. I'd be worried too. So the Miami Heat, they made a posting, right? That LeBron's coming, like introductory press conference, and then they like deleted it. That I think that happened yesterday, so everyone's like, was that on purpose? Was it like, oh, like a big you know, are they playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers or what I I think they're they're like the guy in the middle of Times Square with you know the end is near sign, just yelling random stuff. I I mean this is all just I don't know, bombast of a degree that I don't I don't know. I I I does it matter where he goes at this stage in his career.

Stat Boy 3:46

Yeah. If he shows up in the East and not on the Sixers, it's gonna make it harder for the Sixers. Is he that is he still that good? I mean, he did play well in the playoffs, I will say. So it's it's a relative thing, right? It's not so much that he's like not talented as much as he used to be, but it's for the cost. He's going for like minimum here. So you're getting a guy that's like nothing on your roster price-wise, but he has a talent of a starter. So I mean, yeah, he could be a game changer for wherever he goes to.

Dr. TAT 4:10

All right, put yourself in LeBron James's shoes, right? You're wine-loving, golf aspiring, Taco Tuesday, you know, wannabe. Michael Jordan wannabe, has won four, three or four rings. Four rings, right? Two Miami, one Cleveland, three and a half, really. If we, you know, do we count the bubble ring? It's it's like it counts, it counts. It's like a ring pop ring, you know. It's nice, but it counts. We'll call it we'll call it three and a half rings. Three and a half or four, depending on who you ask. The really the only thing he could do that would be non-Jordanian at this point would be to win another ring at a fourth franchise, right? That's never happened in the NBA. Yeah, yeah. Nobody in the NBA's ever well, I mean, no one's led. I mean, actually, that'd be a good question. I don't think anyone's ever done it. Has anyone ever won an NBA ring in four different cities? No, that's no heard that as well. So that would be that would be the only thing. So therefore, in my opinion, LA's out. We don't think he's gonna stay at LA. No, they already said he's out. Definitely, yeah. So then I think Miami and Cleveland, everyone's the same Cleveland, but and Cleveland would make sense as a what a reciprocal, kind of like the appropriate ending to the story. Yeah. But he's a master. He should just go somewhere else. He should go. Now, if if you're LeBron, right? What city would you want to play in? What what's your favorite non-philadelphia city to play basketball in? So is the entire is the entire league open up to this or just the ones that we suspect he's everywhere except Cleveland and Miami. Oh, okay. And LA. Where would you guys want to play? And forget the rosters. I just want you to kind of. Just the city. No, outside of Philadelphia. Philly's out too. Because you we have a Philly bias. I would probably say uh I I would say Denver. You would go Denver. I think I like Jokic and and Andrew, our listener lives out there. I could like hang out with him more. Yeah, I guess if you're okay. We'll assume you know Andrew as part of the deal. So yeah, that's not bad. Yeah. How about you, Statboy? Where what city would you like to play basketball in? I'm just taking a peek here. I I don't know here. I would want to play in Utah. Utah? Utah. Why? I want to I I would want to be the least Jordan-esque, you know, I would want to seek vengeance for Carl Malone and the rest of the group, although Carl Malone is a problematic person to you know seek vengeance on.

Stat Boy 6:42

I know where I'm going. Where are you going? I'm going to the Washington Wizards. You're going to the Wiz? I'm pulling a Jordan. I'm going to the Washington Wizards as LeBron, but I'm going to win it. I'm going to prove something uh that Jordan could not do.

Dr. TAT 6:55

Does MJ does he still have any skin in the game with Washington? Does he did he own any of it? Yeah, I know. I don't think he partially did it for a bit. Yeah. Well he owned Charlotte. He was part of Charlotte. Yeah, he write it. He was part of Charlotte. Does he still own it? I don't know.

Stat Boy 7:08

No, I think he's out of the game.

Dr. TAT 7:09

Yeah. It's kind of interesting how the life the like the there's if you think about the life cycle of a megastar in any sport, it's like you go from rookie phenom to you know successful veteran to hitting championships, and then you eventually try to own part of the league. That's like the you know, Brady's on that path. Yeah, he owns part of the Raiders, right? It's almost it's almost definite that LeBron will probably buy one of the teams or get he might own part of like a soccer team. I I I think is he Madrid or something? One of the Premier League teams. Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which one? But maybe I forget. I don't want to misspeak. Oh, it's in Arsenal. I'm not sure. But did you watch you watch this is like a conversation someone would would have had probably about five and a half years ago, but uh did you watch the last dance documentary? Yes, I did. That's right. I think I think everyone in America watched that and Tiger King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the same time. At the same time. So you know, like alternating. What a weird, what a weird timeline in America. Yeah. I mean, it was everyone was just like, all right, how many people died? What's the next episode of Tiger King? And then what they did that was really smart was the last dance was weekly, you know. ESPN threw it along. I thought I thought it was very good. Yeah. Wouldn't call it great. Oh, I loved it.

Stat Boy 8:36

You loved it? I love the soundtrack. I was so like pumped up just from the beginning of the intro songs and all that. I was like, Yeah, the music was awesome. It energizes me.

Dr. TAT 8:45

Outcast and Pearl Gem. They were like a bunch of good songs.

Stat Boy 8:50

I I do like how they come from two different ends of the story, right? They they kind of show parts of the end of the story and they bring the starting part and they kind of just come converge at that one like it was very well done moment.

Dr. TAT 8:59

Yeah, I'd give it like a 10 out of 10. Do you think after the fact Jordan was happy with the way he was portrayed? I mean, it came off as how I guess he wanted to, huh? Yeah. It seemed I I just assumed he had like a major hand in it. Like you could kind of tell, like, it was very well orchestrated to like make him look like epic. Like even the ending, he like smokes the cigar, and they I still remember they played like to Statboy's point, the music was so good. They played present tense by Pearl Jam, and then he's he just smoked like a cigar. And like I still like sometimes I just randomly watched that last clip. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, he did you could tell he was like he wanted it to be a certain way. Yeah, at least I thought. Yeah, LeBron at the Wizards would be probably the most comical of the choices.

Stat Boy 9:46

I mean, look, it just got the first pick in the draft, so and he's pretty good, DeBonta. And they have Trey Trey Young, and they have Anthony Damies, which everyone's talking about how he wants to play with Anthony Davis still. And then to be able to win something in in Washington that Jordan was never able to do, that would be pretty that would be pretty much like an FU to Jordan. Plus, he would win his fourth or his fourth championship at a different city. Yeah. I think it I think that makes the most sense. No one's talking about it. They're under the radar.

Dr. TAT 10:15

No, because it's not gonna happen.

Stat Boy 10:16

But yeah, no, it's well he's gonna come to the east coast. He can potentially go to Philly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're only what two hours? We're we're about two hours.

Dr. TAT 10:25

Yeah, it depends on the traffic, right? Yeah, the traffic you have to drive around the cesspool, that's Baltimore. So that's tough. I think it's yeah, it seems like it's down to four teams. Like it's Miami, like I just looked at it right now. It's Miami's the favorite, followed by Cleveland, followed by Golden State, followed by Philly. Really? And then the rest are just like long shot odds.

Stat Boy 10:46

There was also a lot of talk about how his decision is more family-based. Like he's seeking like what his daughter prefers as well. And there's a lot of tent, there's a lot of discussion about how they want to stay in California. That's where they all want to be. So he's trying to like wait out more time for the Warriors to make a decision on what they want to do with their roster because I think he's trying to put down some hey, trade for AD, I'm coming to you. Yeah, the Warriors like you don't really want to do that.

Dr. TAT 11:13

Yeah. Yeah, they said if Golden State trades for A D, then he might you know, like he's gonna make that happen.

Panda Dan 11:20

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 11:20

What about his son though? Like, I don't know the Brownie? Like, is he just I don't know the street.

Stat Boy 11:25

Oh, he's getting traded to wherever he goes.

Dr. TAT 11:27

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Stat Boy 11:28

You think you think LA drops him like a bad habit? Oh, absolutely. They don't want him on this roster.

Dr. TAT 11:32

Because that was really important. Yeah, like before that was like LeBron's thing. Like he's like, I'm going wherever Brownie's going. But now that's still a thing.

Stat Boy 11:40

It's kind of like the Greek freaks brother. Like wherever he goes, plays like the Greek freak frog. There's multiple anti-good.

Dr. TAT 11:46

Uh how do you say the coupon? Yeah. Do you have to say that kumpo at the end of the yeah? But he plays for Miami now, yeah. Yeah, the Greek freaks. That's like Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Miami. Speaking of which, any interest in seeing the Odyssey? Have you seen it yet? I have not, but I I would like to. Yeah, I would I would definitely like to. I think it's a good idea. Now are you are you getting big reviews? Yeah. Are you a big classical Greek guy, Dan? At Penn State, I did take a Greek civilization class. Mainly because my roommate, a guy by the name of Mike. Oh yeah. Rhymes with shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Mike was a I guess he I don't know. You would probably know this. If he may have I guess he took Latin in high school. He did, yeah. So he seemed he was like very well versed on that credit to him. Yeah. And then like he, I think he took Greek civilization, and then I was like, oh like it sounds cool. So we we needed to take like an elective, and that was that was one of them. And uh it was yeah, it was kind of tough though. Like it was I like the the it seemed like the teacher, like the professor assumed that like you knew all about that stuff already. I didn't really know any of it. Of course, they're like, duh. I mean you know, yeah, the agora ever heard of it? Yeah, which is actually from Rome. But yeah, it's super interesting, all that. So yeah, like you're probably more of a like it's the Odyssey and then the Iliad, right? Isn't that like a big deal, Tim? That's well, the Iliad led to the Odyssey, and and basically I don't want to misspeak on this. I I don't want to spoil anything, it's a 3,000 plus year story. So And who wrote the Odyssey, isn't it? The Odyssey was Homer was his name. And I actually don't think technically he wrote it. It it actually was an oral tradition. So it used to be it was basically like you know how we talk about I don't know, any any story, like the killing in the name of story. Yeah, like it's just a series of of stories that were then told across generations, and eventually someone wrote it down. So I think Homer wrote it down, but it's like like one day someone will do that about this podcast. They'll just like listen to it, they'll transcribe it. They write it down, and then next thing you know, there'll be a movie about someone drinking a monkey boy. That's right. Drinking a monkey boy, skullsunlimited.com, turnover centipede, Scooby-Doo. Yep, all the highlights. Liz Frank, ligaments. Yeah, it's gonna be it, I think so. But essentially it was it was a kind of song. Like people would go around and be like, tell the story. So it's out. It's it's out, and it was made for IMAX, right? Yeah, IMAX, which is uh an important thing to do. Can you see it not in IMAX? I mean you can, but that would you'd be such a that'd be like going to a pool without a dating scene. Yeah, I think so. That's actually weird that's actually the perfect analogy, I think. Yeah, it would so you you bought tickets already. I did. I'm looking forward to it. I will have a full review, and I'm hoping to get Blomo on, you know, here, which would be good. Wait, what? Say that again? I'd hope hope to get Blomo. Oh okay. I thought you said you were looking for getting blown on. Yeah. Blomo is two of our friends who are like movie treatments. Wait, you're gonna get blown by two of our friends? Yeah, it's kind of like who were those two guys that two thumbs up? So were the guys that said two thumbs up, like the Cisco and Ever. They're gonna put two thumbs up this dude's ass? No, no, my. Oh my lord. We're really getting off the rails. Yeah, Blomo is uh is joint, it's a made-up. Two names combined. Two names combined. Oh Bob and Lomo. Slomo. Yeah. And so essentially the two of them merge together to be the ultimate film critic. Yeah, shit. Well, why don't we get them both on? Yeah, well, that's what Slomo's been on to talk. Remember, he talked about Max Crosby with us. But he didn't come on as Blomo, he just came on as Slomo. Yeah, yeah. No, you need both, we need we need both Bob and Lomo together to form Blomo. Yeah. And while Blomo does sound like a filating robot or some other type of thing. It's two thumbs up. It's actually very like, you know, G-rated. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually on the up and up. I don't think they even curse or anything. I don't I don't think they curse. Yeah. Now they don't I don't think I don't even know if they use what what body part they use to enact support for a film. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's thumbs, though. But yeah. Blomo, I I'm I'm wondering if any I don't think any of our buddies have seen it yet. Yeah. I don't think so. It just came out and so where will you see it? Like can you display it? Oh, I'll see it. I'll see it on IMAX. Yeah. Yeah. Like which one? For sure. One in the air. Do you know what? There's a lot of IMAXs in our area. Did you? I immediately think King of Prussia. King of Prussia's one. I'm not going to that one. I saw the first avatar at King of Prussia in IMAX. It was like one of the coolest experiences. Like experiences. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. That was that's that was back in the day, probably like 2010 or something. I think that was, yeah. I want to say that was a 2010 joint. Maybe earlier, twenty eight. But that movie, we were in college, and I remember folks like really the the visuals became something where people wanted to go to the planet Navi even though it didn't exist. What was it called? It wasn't Navi. That's the name of the people. Uh Pandora, right? Pandora, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pandora. Yeah, people were like depressed that they weren't on that planet. Yeah. Yeah. I think the Odyssey will be an enjoyable. It's two and a half hours, though. I mean, that doesn't sound bad. Or no, two hours and fifty-two minutes, excuse me. It's almost three. Almost three. Chris Christopher Nolan or not? Yes. Mr. Nolan's on it. Yeah. Christopher Nolan.

Stat Boy 17:11

And I mean, I'm just looking at it. And it's a lot of famous people too in it, acting.

Dr. TAT 17:16

Yeah, but we're not allowed to talk about actors. Who's Matt Damon? Like, who's he put in? He plays he plays uh Odysseus is his character, which is he's he's involved in the film. Yeah. Yeah, he's important. The whole movie basically sponsored by Pizza Odyssey.

Stat Boy 17:34

So it kind of full circle. Oh, sorry, guys. I was going to say that. Maybe they wouldn't say I'm I'm I'm writing another movie script for said hike here. It's called the Pizza Odyssey. Oh my god. Here we go.

Dr. TAT 17:43

And it's gonna, yeah, but we would have Zendaya than it. She's endiah Tom Holland. Tom Holland. Yep. And Hathaway plays Telemachus. Is it Tom Holland or Tom Hardy? Spider Man Holland. Spider Man. I think Tom Hardy plays a Cyclops. So there's a Cyclops. Yeah, that's good too. I learned I I honestly love Tom Hardy, wasn't it? I don't know. Like I didn't know that. Oh you just well, you know what? If it's a if it's an Owen film, you're not far off. Yeah, because he has an exception, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm looking forward to it. I think you're gonna see a lot of a lot of Greek civilization thoughts. And and did you learn anything from your Greek class about you know the importance of guests and things of that nature? And you shouldn't turn them into pigs or you know, yeah, a lot about like the Greek gods and goddesses, you know, that was educational and cool. And then architecture too. Because I remember Andrew, I talked to him about that, and yeah, I never yeah, that just opened my eyes to Greek architecture and just how like even the pillars, the way they have it. So it was pretty interesting. You have a favorite Greek god? It's a good question.

Stat Boy 18:54

I mean Do you want me to pull some up for you, Dan?

Dr. TAT 18:56

Like Zeus comes to mind, right? Zeus is is like the god, yeah. Yeah, Poseidon. Poseidon, Poseidon, Apollo. Poseidon's the water Artemis. Artemis. And then the goddesses are interesting. Apollo, Athena, Aphrodite, yeah, Demeter. Yeah, I'd have to think like there's like pictures of it. I remember I saw like a like you could like look up. There's like a like it's cool to see the visuals of all the goddess and goddesses, too. Yeah, essentially, and again, spoils for spoiler alert for the 3,000-year-old story, but basically uh Odysseus pisses off a Poseidon and then Poseidon doesn't let him go home. That's the whole thing. And he's just trying to go home. The the whole film is just a dad trying to go home. And there's a lot of violence, right? There's a fair amount of violence, yeah. Yeah, fair amount. Yeah. And then we'll This is probably a dumb question, but the Iliad, will they make a movie about that too? No, never. Never they'll never do that. Yeah. Yeah. They actually did that about 15 to 18 years ago. It was called Troy. That was with Matt Damon's brother, Brad Pitt. And I think if you guys were watching, if you were watching the World Cup, Matt Damon was on the screen and the announcer said that that was Brad Pitt. That was problematic. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I saw that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What are our thoughts? Matt Damon versus Brad Pitt. Just give me just a general sense of where you lean. Are you a Brad Pitt or a Matt Damon guy? Like likable or a fight? Both. Likeable, Brad Pitt, fight, probably Matt Damon. So you think you're Matt Damon? So you think you could beat up Matt Damon and you would enjoy your time with Brad Pitt more? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no. I was saying I think Matt Damon could beat up Brad Pitt. But that I like to do that. Oh, you're going against him, each okay.

Stat Boy 20:46

Isn't there a book series about who women in a fight?

Dr. TAT 20:49

Yeah. But they don't do celebrities.

Stat Boy 20:50

Darn.

Dr. TAT 20:51

Yeah.

Stat Boy 20:51

That would be kind of cool though if they did.

Dr. TAT 20:53

Yeah, that would be Jerry in mind. Like I would read Matt Damon versus Brad Pitt, like a tail of the tape. Yeah. Yeah, we should look up. I mean, the thing is, like, most celebrities make up their height, weight, all that stuff. Yeah. I mean, Brad Pitt was in fight club. So like he but he only had to beat up Edward Norton, right? But other than that, I'm like, I don't think he really plays many. Like, I don't know. I think that's if you were to do a battle right now between like nolan stars like Brad Pitt. I actually's tough. Tom Hardy's tough. Tom Holmes is pretty yeah, DiCaprio Leo's is not that tough. Yeah. I guess Damon. Damon gets in great shape for this.

Stat Boy 21:31

I'm looking at their I mean, they're both relatively the same size. They're about 5'10, 5'11. They're both around 165-ish. Really? Yeah. I mean, they seem like they're it's pretty same fight in if it's a big thing. Damon's from Boston.

Dr. TAT 21:45

I think the people from Boston naturally ha fight better, right? I mean, that's just a that's a I mean, if they're doing like a real fight, like you know, like Ben Affleck's walking out with Matt Damon. He's probably that's a hundred percent right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like a group of it's you know It's almost like you remember in the old WWF days when you had like D Generation X, you would have like Road Dog, you'd have Jesse James, you'd have X Pac, and that's like Affleck. It'd be like Affleck, Mark Wahlberg, and like Matt Damon, all these Boston guys coming out. Bill Burr.

Stat Boy 22:18

Yeah, I feel like we're just we're just rewriting Ocean's Eleven. Yeah. Just all these fancy guys in the same.

Dr. TAT 22:24

Oceans Eleven is actually a remake of the Odyssey. That's right. Did you know that? That's why he brought it up, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you know that? No. No, I just made that up. I do too. But yeah, the Odyssey, you know, part of the Odyssey involves what's called Scylla and Charybdis. So there's a scene in the movie, I'm sure, but it was famous in the book where they have to navigate. Odysseus has to navigate his boat. He's on the boat most of the film, and he's navigating the boat. And there's two things there's Scylla and there's Charybdis. And you'll have to correct me, I always forget which one's which, but I'm pretty sure Scylla is the whirlpool, which is essentially like just this thing, this hole in the ocean that's swirling that if they go too close to that, it's gonna go in and sink their ship and kill them all. And if he goes too far to the right, he'll get Charybdis, which is a six-headed monster that has to eat six of their guys. So essentially it's the trolley dilemma. Uh, we've talked about this before. You're you're familiar with the utilitarianism philosophic question about the trolley problem. Yeah, I think we talked about like offline, but why don't we decade our list?

Stat Boy 23:32

Sem to trolley horns before.

Dr. TAT 23:34

Yeah, so if you're if you're a man who's sitting at a trolley stop and and the train's coming and you can change which way the trolley's going on on one track, there's just one person stuck to the track, and the other one there's three, and right now it's headed for the group of three. Do you switch it so that you kill one person or do you kill the three people? It's kind of what Odysseus has to choose.

Stat Boy 23:59

I mean, isn't that it? You just one versus three, or is there like three really good people or really bad people versus one really good person? Does that matter? Maybe. I mean, if there was a bunch of three criminals on a rail and there's one really like Samaritan, good Samaritan on there, I'm not saving the three dudes that are bad.

Dr. TAT 24:16

Yeah, but the one guy you're sentencing to death who shouldn't die, arguably, and you're, you know, do you change the way that the train goes or should you just accept where the train's headed? I would change it if it made society better. Okay. So if you have a ship and you're about to sink the entire ship or kill six dudes, what are you gonna do?

Stat Boy 24:35

I mean, there might be one person on that ship, so we'll just take the ship out.

Dr. TAT 24:39

Yeah, I guess that's a good good point. So when we think about Skilla and Charybdis, I often think about Eagles football. And in particular, I think of you know, Skilla as the passing game and Charybdis as the running game. Because you can't have too much of either and you have to navigate both. And I'm a little worried this year about whether or not that O-line is going to be healthy enough. How do you feel about you know Jurgens and things? What are you gonna look at the first few days of camp? Yeah, it's a good question. One thing this is like very minor, but I I meant to bring this up before, but like even the like the quarterback position, they obviously got Jalen. Actually, Jalen was in the news today because he was ranked 58, I think. Like they were that was getting some some press, but he was ranked 58 in top 100. CJGJ said he should be number one. I thought that was kind of interesting. Really on X, yeah. But you know, like that's unemployed, he knows it's not. But yeah, the quarterback, so like if you start there, like like obviously it's like Hertz, McKee, Tanner, Danny Tanner, McKee. They got the rookie from North Dakota State, and then they got Andy Dalton. Red rifle. It's it kind of seems like they're shopping McKee. Because like they said like Dalton's like this was like back in mini camp, but they said Dalton was like taking as many snaps as Tanner. And like they kind of seem like Dalton, like we're making a run for number two. So like yeah, like that's something I'll watch. Like I always like to watch the quarterback position because it's so interesting. But but it is kind of interesting because I because all four of those guys certainly have a right to be on the I mean, obviously Jason Hurts, but like that, like that's could be serious, right? But like obviously like between Tanner, Dalton, the North Dakota State quarterback, I'm kind of curious whether they just you know put the North Dakota what's his Cole or something? Yeah, yeah. Peyton. Peyton Cole. I think it's Peyton Cole or Cole. Because last year they had Kyle McCord, who was a local guy from Kews, right? But he kind of he like he's on he's on a different team now. So Peyton's a little bit like him, but yeah, I'm curious to see is Tanner, like Tanner should be the number two, I would hope, but is Dalton making a run for that? Are they trying to shop?

Stat Boy 26:48

Well then why do you have Dalton? Because if you're in a he's so old. Your third your third guy should be like a developmental guy that isn't ready to start if something happens to Hurt. Yeah, which is what Dalton should be. Dalton should be the number two on this team. You think Dalton should be the basic Tanner McKee? I mean, unless unless Danny takes that step. Well, he he's in camp to challenge Danny. And I think the way he played last year was a step back for him. And it they made the team think, hey, we need to put him in a situation that makes him really take that next step. And putting a veteran in that position to easily be the second string guy, but if you can play better than him in the camp, then you have the chance to beat him. So I think it's a challenge to Danny. But at the end of the day, if Danny doesn't prove it, then he's going to the third, and then Cole's probably a practice squad guy or not cut. Interesting.

Dr. TAT 27:35

So you think it's kind of a make or break camp for Danny Tanner?

Stat Boy 27:38

I mean, I think I think Howie tried to make him try to move him. I think he was trying to do an NT Fielding situation. He's still trying to move him. And I I would accept that. That is what I would prefer with him.

Dr. TAT 27:47

Do you think we I think I don't think Danny Tanner is on the team by the end of camp. I think they're gonna try and ship him somewhere.

Stat Boy 27:54

It'd be tough. I don't think ever's gonna be out there that wanted to.

Dr. TAT 27:56

What can you get for him at this point? Like a late route, maybe. You think he's a fourth or fifth? Fourth. That's a good pick. Yeah. I mean, I would keep him as a stay. I I love Danny. He's a great player. I I great play. He was in a tough spot last year. Green is hyperbolic, but he's a very good one. But he did underperform. He did underperform, but yeah, but he was playing with the twos. Yeah, at one point, at what point was he picking that up? Clarendon's team. And that was a really limited Clarendon's defense. Yeah. So you got that. Yeah, like I mean, every position's interesting. You know, like even then you got running back. We don't want to have to go. Who's gonna start? Who's gonna start? I read like Bigsby's only 23. I I saw something today that people were like, Tank Bigsby's only 23, like you know. But he was great last year. Like he I would say he overperformed last year. Totally agree. And then you have Will Shipley, who still has a lot, you know, people like Shipley, but but he's kind of in a tough spot. Like he's not seeing the field, you know. Yeah. And then wide receiver is real interesting. Like I like it seems like Wix is the yeah, you have the the two are clear, Devontae and Lemon. Is Lemon healthy? I think so. Yeah, he had a hamstring. Yeah, he was on like a Phillies broadcast. Yeah. It seems like Wicks is the three, just from a money perspective. It's sure seems like that. And then but then it's like I said, Hollywood Brown, is it uh Elijah Moore, Darius Cooper, Johnny Wilson. So like that's gonna be a good battle. Tight ends pretty much set, Goddard and Stowers, and then maybe like Johnny Munt or one of those other guys. And then but yeah, to your to answer your question, you know, I'm getting there. So O line. I mean, it's set. I well, I guess Steen's gonna be the right guard, right? Like that was kind of a question. But other than that, it's I mean, Jurgens, Dickerson, Milata, Lane, they're all you know, when they're on when they're healthy, they're all all pro type players. But yeah, will they be? I mean, they've been doing all the stem cells, like are they gonna be healthy? We'll see. Yeah, and the question is And then the new O-line coach, too. That's what I was about to say. The post-outland era, yeah. Can can this Cooper gentleman can he keep things together? It doesn't seem like there's much love lost from his former franchise in Minnesota, and I don't think that O-line was exactly spectacular last year. I mean, they were blocking for Carson Wentz, who's you know, a future Hall of Famer, according to some members of this podcast. Um, but it's a critical part of the team. I mean, Saquon, and yeah, even Saquon, like, does he get back to Super Bowl type you know year or is he gonna struggle like last year? Like it's it's gonna be real. It's gonna get exciting though. I mean, preseasons. It's all yeah, it all people start to get real excited about the Eagles pretty soon. Do you believe in this two-year Eagles cycle we've been in? Are we gonna go through the same thing where we make a Super Bowl run? God, I hope so. It's like you you earn it every every other year.

Stat Boy 30:52

I mean, this defense is gonna be pretty nasty if we get things to just click right with it. I mean, we have all those players in the secondary, and then you have the lion that's pretty gonna be pretty good. It's a matter of if Campbell comes in, takes over for Nagobi, and is able to execute on that, and Vic takes him because he's got a different skill set than N'Cobi, but really emphasize what he can do well in the defense and then make sure that Cooper DeGene does well in his safety role, and then it's also a matter of the if the if the avatar doesn't make any boneheaded plays at the corner position. Who's the avatar? Reek. The new guy, Reek. Oh, Reek. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Dr. TAT 31:30

I thought you meant you meant Cooper Matada, but no, he's back as well. Yeah, he is from the ankle injury.

Stat Boy 31:36

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 31:36

Is is what's his name still on the team? The guy who broke his ankle? Sydney Brown. Yeah. Sydney? Nah. The cruise missile. Is he off of our team? Yeah. Dude, that guy's like a torpedo. He is. He's a human. I wonder where he is right now. He's I mean, that is interesting. Yeah, that Coop. He's a human battering ram. It's interesting that Coop will be playing nickel and safety, you know. And then but when he's nickel, yeah, that that's another. Will it be Epps? Will it be Michael Carter at safety? Like that's up for grabs. They might bring someone in. Is it more likely that we have a top 10 or bottom 10 offense as you see it right now in this rosy, you know, rosy glasses of the pre-training camp week evaluation of the birds? Are we gonna be is it more likely top ten or bottom ten? I think top ten. There's just so many weapons on offense. Yeah, always the pests. Plus we got uh, plus we got manion man and the grizz and mahoff. We don't know if any of them are good at coaching. You know, it's always it's tough when they're an understudy from like a great coach, right? Like the manion man is a he's under the McVeigh tree, is that correct? Or is he? Yeah, yeah, there's connections to McVeigh. Yeah, there's connections to Shanahan, which I think is what we've talked about. The question is, where does the tree start? Is it is it a Shanahan tree or is it a McVeigh tree?

Stat Boy 32:57

The father Shanahan, the oldest Shanahan, right? And then he has his son coaching. Oh, you think he's like the main trunk of a tree? I mean, because people say, oh, Kyle Shanahan hasn't won anything. No, that's the wrong Shanahan. We're talking about the Broncos coach, his dad. So Mike Shanahan, you think is fantastic.

Dr. TAT 33:13

Because he's the one who developed zone running. Like zone-based running.

Stat Boy 33:17

That was back when the Broncos were just crushing people with Lway and stuff. Yeah. People, oh yeah, Shanahan hasn't won it. No, his dad. Okay. So you think everything transpired from the Mike Shanahan tree? Yeah, and then trickled down to his son, who then has his tree, and it kind of just focused on the thing. Is it two trees or one tree? No, it's a single tree. It's like it's a branch, it branches off.

Dr. TAT 33:37

So the so the big branch, so the main trunk. The trunk is his Mike Shanahan. Correct. And then the so uh and then it splits. And it splits to what? What are the two uh two ones? Is it McVeigh and Shanahan?

Stat Boy 33:50

Yeah, I I don't know if if McVeigh was underneath Mike at any point, but if it was, then McVeigh was under under Mike.

Dr. TAT 33:57

Oh, I don't know if he was under Mike.

Stat Boy 33:59

That's a good question. I know Kyle and Mike, or yeah, Kyle and Shh McVeigh, they were all assistant coaches. It was McVeigh? Yeah, I think they were all on the the commanders, the Clarendons.

Dr. TAT 34:11

Yeah, they were it was those two and then the uh Green Bay coach. Yep. They were all on the Clarendon, but the Clarendons. Dude, they had a they had a stacked like assistant coach. They just had no like was that before or after Kyle lost the worst Super Bowl ever? As the he was the O-coordinator for that, right? What Falcons? The Falcon thing. Yeah. Wasn't he the O-coordinator? He wasn't the head coach.

Stat Boy 34:35

What tree what treat? Okay, here we go. All right, give me the treat. Mike Shannon was the coach of the Redskins from 10 to 13, 2010 to 2013.

Dr. TAT 34:44

This is the father, right?

Stat Boy 34:45

This is his father, right? This is this is the one that was Broncos coach. Yeah. He had underneath him in his assistant coaches his son, Kyle, Nepatis, Matt LaFleur, who's the coach of the Packers right now. Which is which is French for Matt the Flower.

Dr. TAT 34:58

Mike McDaniels, which is Mike McDaniel, which is unsuccessful. Dr. Irish. Sean McVeigh. Sean McVeigh, which is Irish for Mike of the Vay's.

Stat Boy 35:09

And and Raheem Morris, who was Raheem Morris, which is Raheem Morris. No, he's the coach of the Falcons who got fired last year. But he was also on the Rams when McVeigh was coaching, and he was he was the reason why he went to the Falcons because he played well with McVeigh. So McVeigh is on a Morris tree branch of the Mike Shanahan.

Dr. TAT 35:34

Okay, they each have a branch. And then Mannion, where does he so Manion?

Stat Boy 35:38

The floor, right? The flower. Yeah. Well, I don't know if he ends with it. He might have somebody that develops.

Dr. TAT 35:42

No, no, no. I'm saying LaFleur. So Mannion Man was under LaFleur, who was under McVeigh, who was under Kyle Shannon, who was under Munch. No, no, no. Kyle and and Matt LaFleur were the same level. Oh, okay. So you're saying that Kyle and Matt, Matt's a flower, but also a tree branch.

Stat Boy 36:01

No, I'm not saying there are flowers at all. Flower is like the last thing. None of these guys are the end. No, no, but his name is LaFleur. I know what you're saying. That's French for the flower. I don't agree. Yeah, okay. Whatever. All right. For this analogy, yes, but that's not true. Okay.

Dr. TAT 36:14

So you think we got Nick Siriani. He has his own tree growing here too. I feel like Nick Sirian Moore is in. I think Nick Siriani is like a weed and a like a dumpster somewhere that just or no, like a weed that's just growing. Kelly Moore and the Colts. What's the Colts kidding's name? I forget. No. Kellen Moore was a quarterback, but he was like he was under he was a quarterback during the time when the big tuna was there. Parcell. Parcel. So I consider him part of the Parcells tree.

Stat Boy 36:42

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's much of a Sirianni guy because he came in for the year.

Dr. TAT 36:47

But he helped him get to the headquarters.

Stat Boy 36:49

Jonathan Gannon is one chain type.

Dr. TAT 36:52

Siriani is more like a bramble bush, right? Like something. There's no nobody's growing out. And anybody who goes in there gets like Frank Reich. And he always talks about Frank Reich.

Stat Boy 37:02

Frank Reich is more of the father to Sirianni, right?

Dr. TAT 37:06

So maybe is Frank Reich like a bramble bush, and Siriani's like a like a kind of a tough squirrel that goes in and out of it. Kind of, you know. Yeah, I know. He always quotes Frank Reich. Like you would have thought Frank Reich's like his dad, like the way he talks about him, man. Alright, so we have the Mike Shanahan tree, which has the the boughs, you know, the bigger branches. And the bigger branches are Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur, Peter LaFleur, the flower, the flower, but he has a branch. The flower has a branch, and under that branch is where manion comes from, right? Is that correct? Yes. If you consider that because it's clean agree. So manion, so technically our offense is under a flower branch of the Mike Shanahan tree. Is that what you're telling me? Okay. Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

Stat Boy 37:55

And then the Grizz, where's the Grizz fit into any of this? Oh yeah, he came out of Tampa Bay. If I does he have a tree?

Dr. TAT 38:05

Well, no, Todd Bowles is the coach in Tampa, right? Todd Bowles. Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's defensive and offensive trees. Like the Mike Shanahan defensive tree. It's probably what's his name? The guy who developed Tampa 2 defense? Monty Kiffin. Yeah. I feel like Kiffin. Oh, yeah. And then you've got guys like Well, Vic. Vic's right up there. Vic Vangium. Yeah, that's right. But he's probably under the Monty Kiffin tree, if you think about it. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if they directly work together, but Monty Kiffin was the guy who really developed the type of defenses that people play here. Yeah. And Jim Johnson's like the opposite. Who's that? Jim Johnson's like the opposite. He was he was the player.

Stat Boy 38:44

Yeah. Can you get that tree? Oh, I got the Monty Kiffin tree. Yeah. It's actually pretty crazy. Yeah. So head coaches, Mike Tomlin, Lubby Smith, Pete Carroll, Raheem Morris again. And Raheem Morris is on both trees. Herm Edwards. Oh yeah. Miracle of the Medellin. Gus Bradley and then Bruce Sun Lane. Okay. Yeah. Not that bad. Starting off pretty good. Okay, good.

Dr. TAT 39:09

So I have no idea where we were going with that. But I think so. Mannion is under the flower bough of the Shanahan tree. And that's been successful for the last probably decade of the NFL. Because the NFL constantly it's a copycat league, as you guys know, right? Those with success are then copied by the other teams. And then the teams that remain successful kind of change things up. So we've gone from, you know, eight, nine years ago, there was the read option, there was let's confuse the edge player and make them make a decision and then we'll run or pass off of that. And the spread offense and things of that nature. We've now moved to more of a running league with a 12 personnel where the tight ends, you need like a blocking tight end, you need your receiving tight end, and you, you know, McVay always wants everything to look the same, but have different wrinkles off of it so that the defense can never pick anything up. Yeah, yeah. So I think we're headed in that direction where and and the Eagles were so successful because of our dominant run game. We were running when everyone was passing, but now everyone's running, so we got to start passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean it it's amazing during that Super Bowl year. Yeah, the running game was just so dominant, and they just kept doing the same thing. Yeah. We talk about McVay. The Rams are the projected team out of the NFC right now. Like if you look at gambling odds and stuff, they're uh never tell me the odds. Because they got Miles Garrett now. And even Aaron Donald was working out. I don't I meant to mention that to you. You think he's just gonna come back? He wa he did a workout with the Rams. Oh my god. Now I don't know where that went. That was probably like last week, but yeah. But yeah, that would be yeah, that would be crazy. I mean, if so the Rams have like they're they're the they're the heavyweight of the NFC right now. Now they're in the same division as the Seahawks. You know, Seahawks are the kings of the NFC, they're the Super Bowl champions. Well, the Seahawks are gonna do hard knocks. Oh really? Oh, they're fucked. Now what do you think the thing about the Seahawks? They lost Kenny Walk, Kenneth Walker. He went to the Chiefs. Kenny G? No, Kenny, Kenny W. Oh. And then Charbonnet, like Tories ACL or something, or his Achilles or something. Has that been before the end of last season, right? But he's still like out.

Stat Boy 41:26

So they I don't even know who their running back is. They picked up they got some like mediocre dude. I think they picked a dude up from Notre Dame in the draft. He was actually the second prosa. Yeah, yeah. The back to love. Yeah, Prosecco. Yeah. Prosecco. They Chardonnays hurt because they got a prosecutor.

Dr. TAT 41:42

Chardonnays are different white wines. People, once we get into fantasy football season, people be well versed on you know who's on what team. I I do like to note, and I don't like to toot my own horn, but I will. I often find the best wide out every year, the rookie wide out. I drafted Tet McMillan, who was by far the best rookie wide out. Now this year. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You also had Embuca as well. I did. So you're saying Tet was better than Ambuka? Oh, yeah. I mean, Buka was coached by the Grizz, right? Yep.

Panda Dan 42:15

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 42:16

But I I would say of those two, Tet McMillan had the better year fantasy-wise. I also think he had more volume in his direction.

Stat Boy 42:24

But that's all fantasy is. Fantasy is just volume. But we're talking about the best player. I would say if you're deciding between the two, I think Mbuka's probably more talented. Just my fair two players. I mean I don't know either of them that well, but they seem to be like. They're both good. Yeah.

Dr. TAT 42:41

Both good players. But this year, I do not think Lemon will be the top wideout. Who do you think will be the top wideout? The Shadow Rookie Wise. What was he? The third one.

Stat Boy 42:51

It's probably going to be the guy that went to the Saints, right? Tyson? Someone went top five, I think, right? Well Tate. Cardinal Tate went top five to Titans, right? Yeah. He certainly could be a big guy, but you have to also like expect quarter to be able to get him the ball, which you know, he's got to take a third year or second year leap. I think the guy in the St. Louis, right? Or not St. Louis, the New Orleans, Tyson, who's supposed to be like a freak athlete from Arizona, but he's always hurt. I think he could potentially be.

Dr. TAT 43:19

Yeah, I I know the answer. I'm just not going to tell it. I'll just so it's neither of those guys. Not Tate, it's not Tyson. It could be. I'm not going to tell you. Oh, okay. But you know. Well, that's fine. You're going to just blow $50 on this guy and then for all the non, you know, there's a special lead that we've been playing in for decades now. That's what we're doing.

Stat Boy 43:40

Actually, we're coming up on our 20th.

Dr. TAT 43:42

Yeah. This is the 20th?

Stat Boy 43:44

This is the 20th year.

Dr. TAT 43:45

Yeah. And so what we do is we've evolved with the evolution of fantasy football. And we're not one of those booger eaters that does like a regular snake draft. I mean, we're we're auctioning. We're doing we're playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Yeah. In fact, I think we're We should go take it to the next level, which is just have like have some version of a like salary cap and have unlimited monies per year that we then have to pay down the road. Like kind of a dynasty hybrid. Well, let's just make it way too complicated. It's the more complicated the better. I mean, we have keepers, we have auction. Yeah. Yeah, we're at a high level.

Stat Boy 44:24

It's not your just standard, hey, I'm gonna pick up a fantasy league this year. You kind of have to know what's going on. Yeah. Or else you get left in the dust. We have 14 teams. Well, 13. 13. We have somebody left. So actually, yeah, we do have a vacancy. If anybody on our vacancy if anybody's interested in joining, we can't shameless plug. Yeah. So just just reach out to us.

Dr. TAT 44:46

I don't even know. Who left? Did you understand? What do you need? Well, I got to We can't talk about it all. It's a very touchy subject. Okay.

Stat Boy 44:54

Yeah, don't but yeah, there is an opening, and we do like to continue with our 14 teams.

Dr. TAT 44:59

Now what we Dr. Green's still in the league? Wait, but we won't. Are we just gonna start naming people? I'm still in the league, I'll tell you that much. I think we're you're still in the league, right? Yeah, I'm in. You're still in the league. Uh there's your answer. So we do have an opening. Okay. We have one opening. So what you have to do is we like to have your CV laminated and mailed to us, and and we really we focus on we could do interviews live on air. We could do that. And I think we we could really we could look for we're looking for fresh blood every year. Yeah, we need content. This is perfect.

Stat Boy 45:28

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 45:29

Yeah. No, that would actually be cool. Like you're doing it.

Stat Boy 45:33

That's like I never watched La League. I heard that was a great TV show. Yeah, I never did either. Did you watch that one? Yeah, it was I loved it. I didn't watch it when it was in its heyday. I think I picked it up a couple years after it came out. But it's it was pretty false. Like they had NFL players actually go on the show and that was that was one of those that was back when FX was like a big deal. Do you remember FX?

Dr. TAT 45:52

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if FX still exists.

Stat Boy 45:57

Oh okay. Yeah. Is that just is that just Fox without the O? Correct. Is it connected to Fox in any way? It is. Okay. And then there's FXX. Okay. So is that like the the explicit version of that? Fox?

Dr. TAT 46:11

This was all like right before streamers. Before the streamer war started. This was like before you had X. This is when TV mattered. This is when TV mattered. Yeah.

Stat Boy 46:20

Yeah. Dan, do you want to speak to TV and how it's died and streaming has taken taken over?

Dr. TAT 46:25

No, no. It's a changing landscape. But no, I won't I won't delve into that. Yeah. Yeah. He has he has certain biases that he can't disclose actually when it comes to that. But I love it. I want to go to TV. I was actually thinking of it right before we went live on air here on the Sedite podcast. I want to get a TV for that corner right there. Cause I know sometimes I'll have like my like I have people, you know, I'm a very popular guy, so I have people over here, you know. Yeah. And like people like to have dinner at the table and then but like yeah, like the way it's angled, it's hard to look back. So I want to get a TV like right there. That would and then I was thinking like when we had the draft, like when we had the live draft episode that no one ever listened to. It would have been good if we like could just watch a TV. Well, it's nice. I always sit in the very good spot. Yeah, I always look over your shoulder the whole time. I think you could put four more TVs in, you know, nothing beats a dining room with like quad TVs around so that you don't really have to talk to anybody. You just look at the TVs behind the screen.

Stat Boy 47:20

So we're literally gonna host the podcast, not talking, we're just gonna be watching TV. It would be nice, yeah. Nobody wants to listen to this anyway.

Dr. TAT 47:28

True. Yeah. I like Yeah. At my parents' house, I don't know if you remember this, Jim, but this was back in like high school. There's like a chair in the living room that like didn't face the TV. So like I remember like we I would have people over and like someone would have to sit in that one chair and everyone else would be watching like the game, and then like one person would just have to like kind of watch everyone else's reaction. Yeah. But that's where like we had the great spoiler maker versus golden gopher discussion. Oh, yeah. I think that was what was on. We were watching, we were watching Minnesota play Purdue, yeah, which is oh, back in the crazy. That'll be cool too. College football is coming up. Like I I was doing some research on both college football and NFL. So like just to see like who the top teams are. And yeah, I mean, college football is gonna be interesting too with Ohio State's like all it's interesting that Indiana's still considered like a top team. Even without Mendoza? Yeah, yeah. I don't know who the thing is. Who's the new Mendoza? Yeah, that's the question. Because they lost that wide receiver too. He went second round Omar or something. He was one of the Indiana wide receiver because they think Cooper, yeah. Yeah. He went, I think, like early second round. I think he went to the Jets, right? Yeah, that's right. That's right. So he's gonna I don't know. I guess Indiana got a lot of recruits with that. I mean, they were amazing last year, you know. Yeah. So now is this the time of year when the future bets come in, Dan? Are you starting to think of that? Like that's why I played some cheddar. I want to I I've never bet futures. Like I'll do like that week of, but yeah, like I I want to try to maybe do some playoff parley. Or like, you know, futures like already. And are you gotta wait like five months? Are you a big survivor pool guy? Are you gonna be doing that? Yeah, I usually do. It gets crazy because it's almost like like I'll do at least two fantasy football leagues, like hours, and usually like I work one or so, which actually is not that much, but I'll use I'll do at least two. I've I've done three before, but I'll probably do two and then Yeah, like usually I do a pick'em pool. Although pick em pool, yeah. I used to like love pick em pools, but then I'm just like I could just like bet on my own with the you know, like I don't know. But but yeah, I'll do like a lot of all that stuff. I love that. Yeah. It almost becomes like a lot, like it's a lot that process like all this kind of football, you know, data. Oh, it's a big deal. I mean it's it's quite exciting, frankly. You know, the week before training camp is a time to really hunker down, and us football siccos can really dig in. Yeah, but even like yeah, like I was thinking of like who's gonna win each division, like like you gotta take that at all into account. Like, yeah, it gets real, you know, it gets real interesting. And the cool part about the NFL is there's always a team who is slated to be third or fourth that ends going in, and and for whatever reason, I mean the NFL has this down to a science, but typically I think it's now 14 playoff teams, but almost like pretty much like clockwork, five to seven of the like almost half of the teams like exit the playoffs and then the other ones stay. Like there's always a decent amount of turnover. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, you gotta see. I I think like Yeah, it's weird. And if I was thinking about that the other day, I mean 'cause any 'cause like that one conference with or the division with the Rams, Niners, Seahawks, Cardinals, yeah. Like you have to assume I mean those three teams are super strong. Seahawks, Rams. Yeah, but you never know, man. Or like could they do that again where they all make it? But and then you got like the Lions, Packers, Bears, and the other one. And like that's a strong. It's like who's gonna come out of that? And then you got the crappy division with the Bucks, Panthers, Saints. And one of them has to go to the playoffs, no matter what. One of them has to one of them's gonna host a playoffs. Yeah, yeah. And the Falcons. And then you got the Birds, and I think it's a good thing. Yeah, the Cowboys are getting some respect. Like, if you look at like the odds, like like some people think the Cowboys could potentially like I mean, I hate that. I won't even say like some are saying like they could win the NFC. Oh my god, that would be like no they're the clear, like it's like Eagles are the pick to win the NFC, and then but Cowboys are getting respect, and then the yeah, then the commanders and Giants aren't getting much.

Panda Dan 51:27

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 51:28

Did you see uh Scataboo for the Giants? I know Turtle was texting it. Turtle and the lace gone were texting me about it. They uh scatterboo, like he just recovered from I guess a torn ACL or something, you know, seriously. He tore his ACL? Or maybe it was ankle. Yeah, he had like an open ankle fracture. But there was like a video of him at like a party or something, and he did like a front flip and landed right on his and then he missed, he like screwed up the landing and like almost looked he looked like he almost hurt his ankle again, but but then he just like let out this like gronk like like you know. Do you think is Cam Scadabo just a dumber version of Peyton Hillis? Is he just like this flash in the pan, like just bold people? It was good in college at uh Arizona State. I think he's legit, but do you think I mean if there's like a title belt for dumbest, like most boneheaded NFL player, and gr it was Gronk previously, do you think he holds the Yeah, I think he reminds me of Gronk, you know, similar type energy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I I'll tell you, I don't want to mess around with the Giants. I I think they're just they're weird, yeah. That one game last year, the at the at New York, they they like just like whooped our ass. That was crazy. Yeah, it was like a Thursday night. I blame a Dory Jackson for all that. Yeah, yeah. But we also got pushed around. I agree. The line did not play well. I'm worried about our line. I am. I I think I think they just have to be healthy and we have to see where Dickerson's at and Jergens and whether you know, did they get enough stem cells? You know, Jergens like is now basically you know just hawking these stem cells left and right. Yeah, I know. Yeah, both him and Dickerson, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And we don't have a whole lot of depth at the line. Like we got Willie Lampkin, who we'll see how he does. Yeah, but uh you got the swinging Johnson, you know, Fred Johnson. Yeah, we got both Johnson's. I mean, he's basically the we almost we almost lost to Johnson, but we re- Johnson'd up. So we got two Johnsons. You got it but yeah, like if Dickerson went down, yeah. Like you just don't have like real real reliable depth though. Two Johnsons, a Dickerson, I mean really good. You got the rookies, the Jergens to keep everything, you know, well oiled and and flowing correctly, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We do got that huge guy from uh Miami we drafted third round. Yeah, that'll be I'm interested to see him. Apparently he doesn't have much he's like six nine or something. Yeah, he doesn't really have a lot of what what we in the NFL call gluteus maximus. He's kind of light in the loafers there. You know, the the legs are not exactly as well developed, but he's tall and he just takes up sp he's a space eater, you know? Yeah, so you're I think your bull rush guys are gonna be able to have their way with him, but I think he'll be hard to get around. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and we have Grenard and Grizzard. We've got a lot of good names. Yeah. This is a good team. We have a good named team this year. You are Bernard. We got we've got we've got Smith and Wicks, so you can make like a Smith Wicks shirt, you know, for the receivers. You've got a Lemon, who hopefully doesn't play like a Lemon. You've got Hertz, Springs A new, we've got Peyton Cole or Cole Peyton, I can't remember.

Stat Boy 54:32

You are Bernard. This is good because I was actually received a text today from one of our other league mates in our fantasy league, and yeah, he tends to create team names that are focused on Eagles in some capacity. And he was he was a little sad that the uh that the the two blankenship and dejean duo is now broken up on the Eagles, but they were known as Oh, so he's gonna change the name from the exciting whites. The exciting whites, yes. So we need we need some content here to help provide for name. Oh, I can help you. I have a couple of names right now.

Dr. TAT 55:03

So good one, Smithwick. Isn't there a beer, Irish beer? That's exactly so I would do I would do Smithwick's receiving company, it would be a very good one. There you go. You could do The Road to UR, you know. Oh, there you go.

Stat Boy 55:16

Do you guys remember that book that everyone had to read, The Road to Ubar? That would be perfect because I do want to know the road to his success.

Dr. TAT 55:22

Yeah, the road The Road to UR is a good Eagles fantasy football name. I think I I have always enjoyed Makuba Matada. It's a good one.

Stat Boy 55:30

Yeah. Something the lemon, so like I don't know. It was lemon cello. Squeeze or something. Lemon cello.

Dr. TAT 55:36

I mean, Turtle just made lemon cello, right? Did he? I don't know. It's good. I wouldn't trust it. I think I think it would go blind. Yeah. I I don't recommend drinking it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, do we have any electronic mail messages? Yeah. Let's let's get in on it. We'll give a plug too. Yeah, like just a reminder for folks. SethPod at gmail.com if they want to. We are working on our RD department's working on a potential voice voicemail system that we could do. So like maybe folks What would that entail, Panda Dan? Yeah, we're we're current. I just had a meeting with them this week, you know, just to check in. Like I always like to, you know, just tell them tell them to remember. I like to be a renaissance man, just know a little bit about everything, you know. So I yeah, I stepped into their room and you know, I said, hey, how's that project going? And they Yeah, like so it would give folks an opportunity to because I know we listen, we know you're probably driving right now, you know, you you you don't have time to type a quick email, so you just want to call and like say whatever you want to say. And so we would we would we would we would have your permission to play it live on air and we would be able to you know respond. We would love to hear your voices, you know, and and I think we also enjoy hearing our own voices, but it'd be good to get some other voices in here. Yeah, so that's that's down the line. Guests, you know, we've had we had some great guests. I mean, we passed and uh we double Winchester, SkullsUnlimited.com, um who would win? Golf 215, golf 215. So yeah, we'll we'll we'll look into if if anyone knows any good guests, you know. Does anybody know anybody?

Stat Boy 57:08

Yeah, if you know anybody, yeah.

Dr. TAT 57:10

Anyone we do have one in the works about a potential hockey league that we're excited about. Nice, you know. But yeah, we got we got a lot that yeah, that but yeah, I know Andrew sends us Instagram messages, that's a that's a path to talk to us. Have we ever had we haven't had a Slay or sound off in a while? Does she still sound off?

Stat Boy 57:27

I haven't. We'll have to get we have to get in contact. She must be in her summer spring or still.

Dr. TAT 57:30

Yeah, yeah. Which is fair, which is fair.

Stat Boy 57:32

Everyone's everyone's entitled to that. Well, shout out to Slay. You're welcome to sound off whenever. Yep. Yeah. All right, let's uh let's get in this this email. So it looks like it's from our buddy in the basement, Turtle. Uh yeah, shout out. Yeah, shout out. Steering back to the World Cup. So the what the World Cup. Oh, when does that start? It's over. It's over? Yeah, apparently it's over. Someone won the blender. Someone won the what? The blender. The blender. What's the trophy? The trophy looks like a blender. I think we've talked about this in the past. Yeah. Okay. You made that comment. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Great. I digress. So the question is uh the the World Cup had a third place game between England and France because Spain and Argentina was in the actual, you know, first and second place game. So the lineups were heavily rotated with many stars starting the game on the bench. There was zero defense, and players seemed like the goal was not to get hurt. He says, since it's basically a senseless money grab, do you think the NFL will implement a third place game after the next CBA? Before you poo-poo the idea, which we usually do with the game.

Dr. TAT 58:34

I already have.

Stat Boy 58:34

Yeah. Yeah. Mentally it's gone. He's saying, remember, this is the league that implemented week 17 that still insist on keeping the Pro Bowl going to going in some shape or form, and then have a perfect time slot during the bye week before this rule. So they still do the Pro Bowl, and they still have an extra week in 17. So he's like, this is the league that does stupid stuff with extra games and everything. So he's thinking that NFL might be prime for this. So what do we think here, gentlemen? Do we think a third place game is something people would tune in to watch? I don't know.

Dr. TAT 59:08

Not at all. Especially football. It's like a you know, you either are all in or not. Like it's just it's not a good product. What is what would third place get you? Nothing.

Stat Boy 59:18

Maybe a better draft position? No. No? No, because the loser would get the better draft position. But you're only talking about what, a single slot? Maybe we make it more. Yeah, a single slot. Maybe we because I know in my older fantasy league I had was the loser in the consolation bracket, which is the teams from like six to twelve, the winner of that bracket got the first pick. So it wasn't the worst team got it, it was the winner. So you actually had something to play for there. So I think that's where maybe he's going is like maybe if we incentivize that to be something more significant than just one spot in a draft, maybe a couple, maybe like you could jump 10 spots. Maybe that matters.

Dr. TAT 59:57

This is all a terrible idea. It will never work. It is a waste of an email. And frankly, I really think Turtle, you know, what you have suggested is one of the dumbest things that I have ever heard. We are all dumber having read or even pondered on such a ridiculous concept. Now I mean, yeah. This is why we have no one emails. No, I thought it was a fair question. I mean, because yeah, why was that third place game? We should never compare ourselves to FIFA. FIFA is a corrupt, awful system that has no bearing on the NFL. And the fact that we compare ourselves to the silly thing.

Stat Boy 1:00:39

Well, I mean, with this whole compliment about like, hey, they had nothing to play for, Mbappe had something to play for in France, right? He was going for the golden boot or something. He was still trying to be the winner of that. That's fine.

Dr. TAT 1:00:50

But but ultimately. But in the NFL, third place doesn't get you anything. Now, what we should do, and I this is what I would do, just to keep the end of the regular season interesting, they should have, you know how the NBA has the NBA Cup, like that inner the tournament within the season, yeah, there should be an NFL cup, and there should be two parts to it. There should be an offensive NFL cup and a defensive NFL cup. So over the course of the year, the team that gains the most yards overall, and the team that gives up the least amount of yards, and it could be the same team, they should get a bonus draft pick in the first round. And it's just de novo. Like it's 33 picks, and that team gets an extra pick in the first round. So it would encourage people who may not even be in the playoffs, but even like teams that are really doing well to gain whoever gains the most regular season yards and the defense who prevents who has the least amount of total yards. So why yards? I mean, I get what you're saying. It's a game. Because that's the most important step. What about like points? Like most of the things. No, yards. Yeah. Yards will make you play down in and down out. It's just yards. And it's just defense and offense. Special teams doesn't get one. So you have you'd have NFL cups and you would name them after famous players, right? You would call it like the I don't know, like the Reggie White cup for the defense, and like the I don't know, who's like one of the the Jerry Rice, you know, award for most yards. That's something I've thrown along with. Just to keep it more interesting. Yeah, all there's like, yeah, it's always interesting when there's new like rule proposals and I think the the NBA, I think in the summer league, they were proposing in instead of shooting two or three foul shots, you just shoot one foul shot and it would count as either two or three points.

Stat Boy 1:02:40

Oh, interesting. Isn't the college rule where like you have to make the first one to get to the second one?

Dr. TAT 1:02:45

No, that's for bonus or one and one. But that doesn't exist in the NBA. No, it's I I actually think while foul shots really drag when it comes to the course of a game, you need to make the guy make the points because they miss sometimes, right? Like I think it it is important to like make both. And and I think as the as it becomes a higher impact, right? Like a more important point. Like Wembinama missed some critical free throws down the road. And if you made the first one, you would never even see that. Yeah. Or like Mitchell or something.

Stat Boy 1:03:16

Well, that's the one thing I don't like. Yeah, I I really hate that strategy where you're just like fouling the dudes you know has a horrible 3D percentage.

Dr. TAT 1:03:23

The thing is, the NFL is perfect, and we're comparing it to lesser leagues, and FIFA should never be compared. And third place. Wow. I mean, third place is awful, you know. I mean FIFA just.

Stat Boy 1:03:42

You didn't lose the first loser, you lost to the third loser. You lost to the third loser.

Dr. TAT 1:03:47

That's right. Um I didn't like the third. It's hard to get excited for that. It's just like terrible, terrible.

Stat Boy 1:03:54

I mean, you know how you feel after an uh you know how we felt after he was lost in the playoffs. It was just like I don't want to talk about football for four more games. Could you imagine if they had another game for like the state right after they I did, yeah. Yeah, for weeks. It was tough. Yeah, it was tough. All right, well, thank you, Turtle. We're gonna Yeah, thank you.

Dr. TAT 1:04:09

Never ask a question, FIFA-based, ever again.

Stat Boy 1:04:12

Okay. All right. Oh, and we do have a second one here. It's it's from Anonymous, actually. Hi, Anonymous. Yeah, hi.

Dr. TAT 1:04:18

All right, so that's actually one of the characters. In the Odyssey. Anonymous. Anonymous. Yeah, nobody knows who he is. Starts off by saying set high crew. I mean, how is it anonymous?

Stat Boy 1:04:29

Do they like the email just says anonymous? I I only read off what the the signature is at the bottom of the email, even though I only have an answer to that my person, but I'm only gonna read off what they decide. We also should uh respect their anonymity. Yeah. So if you want to be anonymous, you just say you're anonymous. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cool. So it says it starts off by set I crew. It says, stat boy, fire up your stat sheets. Panda Dan, please refrain from introducing horse lineages into this. And then it says, Dr. Tat, I need a ruling. Okay. I present to you three coaching resumes. Okay. All of them are universally recognized as football coaching legends. Sounds like trees. Yeah. It says your job is to identify coach A, Coach B, and coach C. Okay. All right. And there's uh one, two, three, three.

Dr. TAT 1:05:13

I thought we were doing a ruling.

Stat Boy 1:05:15

Yeah, I think you have to rule who you believe is the best out of these. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So it goes, there's a couple different categories. Six different categories they're all compared by. So first category discusses number of championships. So coach A has six. Okay. Coach B has three. And Coach C has six. Okay. Championships appearances. Coach A has nine appearances. B had five. Okay. And C also had nine. Okay. Peak championship run. So Coach A won three titles in four years at their peak. Coach B won three titles in five years. And then Coach C won three titles in three years, which makes him the only three P in this entire group. Okay. Longest. Winning streak that goes over multiple seasons. Coach A had twenty-one games straight. Coach B had fifteen, and then Coach C had sixteen. Okay. And then the last p one is historic regular season. It looks like Coach A had an uh sixteen and no season. Okay. Coach B went fifteen and two. And then Coach C actually had the most points scored offensively in that year that he he did something historic. So not the best record that year, but the most points scored offensively.

Panda Dan 1:06:31

Okay.

Stat Boy 1:06:32

So do you need me to go back to any of these? Coach A, B, or C? Okay, so we have to do that.

Dr. TAT 1:06:37

We have to identify them?

Stat Boy 1:06:38

Yeah. Who do you think these guys are?

Dr. TAT 1:06:39

Well it's football, so they're all football? Okay. All right. So we know what who the first one is, right? Billy. Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick. That's Coach A. Okay. Coach B is how many Super Bowls? Three? Three. Three and four years. Three championships. Three championships. Three championships. So that's probably Vince Lombardi. And then the coach C, you said three and five? Three championships in five years? For Coach C or the C.

Stat Boy 1:07:14

For Coach Coach C three championships in three years. Coach B had three championships in five years. Oh.

Dr. TAT 1:07:22

So the only one to do a three-peed actually, so Coach C is probably actually Lombardi, because that was before the Super Bowl. No one has three-peed the Super Bowl. No. Right. So then Coach B is either Andy Reid or it could be earlier Coach Walsh. It could be Walsh. Walsh. Okay. So I think I what's the name? Jimmy Johnson. Yeah. The uh Cowboys coach. Oh, the Cowboys coach. I didn't think about him. No, he only won one or two. He won a few, yeah. No, I don't he didn't win three because he inherited the Cowboys team that the other guy won first. Or maybe vice versa. Jimmy Johnson. And then yeah, Switzerland. So A is A is Belichick. I know that. I'll lock that in. B is who do you think B is? I think C is Lombardy. And B is Do you think it's Walsh? I don't think it's Andy Reed has won three Super Bowls, but it was dispersed a little wider. Could have been Andy Reed. I'm gonna go Belichick Reed Lombardi. I'm locking that in. What are you doing? This is a tough one. Yeah, Reed won three? I guess he did, right? Yeah, I'll do the same. I kind of was with you during that through that process.

Stat Boy 1:08:36

Alright. Okay. And then of those three that you've kind of locked in, who do you believe is the I guess the most significant out of the by far. So Coach A. You think Coach A has the best resume here across the board?

Dr. TAT 1:08:50

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Stat Boy 1:08:52

So I mean, even though Coach C had the only three B. Yep. Okay. And then they're tied in championship appearances. Okay. Same amount of championships. So Coach A and C have pretty much the same resume, minus their historic regular season.

Dr. TAT 1:09:12

I feel like we're doing a riddle or something.

Stat Boy 1:09:14

Well I'm just curious because you're saying A is better than C, but C is the only one that has the three-peat, and they have the exact same championships and the same number of appearances. Oh, you didn't say that. I thought you said they won three and three.

Dr. TAT 1:09:25

Yeah, but who was 16-0, wasn't that? That was Coach A, here. Which is Bill Belly.

Stat Boy 1:09:31

I mean, did Walsh go 16-0? I think he did, though, right? Uh you're saying you're saying 16-0 is more significant than winning three P. So you're thinking Lombardi's signific like some like your coach C, Lombardi, was lesser of a coach than Belichick, but Belichick didn't get in all first hall or Belichick.

Dr. TAT 1:09:50

Yeah, Belichick is Coach A is my answer. Okay. That's what you think.

Stat Boy 1:09:53

You think Coach A is still better than Coach C.

Dr. TAT 1:09:55

I'm trying to figure out which one's Belichick. And I got I'm going to go. Is this going to be like one of those riddles like where the surgeon's the mom type of thing? Like you know, one of those confusing riddles. I'm a little I feel like I'm about to be set up or something by anonymous. No, I'm just curious. You're still okay, you're running with Coach A. I'm going to very sheepishly pick A and say A is Belichick, who I think is the best coach of all time. I'm going to follow Dr.

Stat Boy 1:10:20

Tad and through that path. Do you think the conversation between Coach A and C was close though? I don't know. You keep ignoring P. I thought P was pretty good. Yeah, okay. Well P doesn't have it three P, doesn't have it only has five championship appearances and only three championships. So it just seems like they're across the board lower in all categories. Yeah, so for me it's Belichick.

Dr. TAT 1:10:43

I'm gonna go Belichick.

Stat Boy 1:10:44

Okay. All right. So the answers are coach A was correct, was Belichick. Okay. Coach B correct was Andy Reid. Okay. Yeah. And Coach C was the fantasy genius center's fantasy football league. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I mean I thought Coach C had it. I mean, I oh man.

Dr. TAT 1:11:05

Yeah. Coach C.

Stat Boy 1:11:08

We knew something was fishy about that, huh? Oh my gosh. Coach C. Same same number of championships as his Beljack.

Dr. TAT 1:11:16

Yeah. But the only one that's repeated. Yeah. What would you say Coach C's best mascot was out of all of his mascots? Because Coach C often had a mascot who was a bald version of myself as Kimbo Slice.

Stat Boy 1:11:32

I mean, Andy Reid is literally like a Hawaiian shirt guy, always on vacation in the middle of Missouri during Cerval.

Dr. TAT 1:11:38

We should be happy. We compared you to Lombardi.

Stat Boy 1:11:41

I was trying to win that comparison.

Dr. TAT 1:11:43

I mean, I he really was pushing for C the whole time. How did we not? That's a great email from Anonymous. Yeah, I wonder if you said that in. Yeah, that's really well thought out. That's great. But yeah, we nailed that. That was pretty good. No, that was good. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. Okay. Yeah, that's it for the mailbag today. So correct. Yeah, why don't you correct us? Yeah, let's do I mean your resume is pretty nasty. Oh, well, Anonymous is Coach C resume.

Stat Boy 1:12:12

Right. Michael Jordan discussion. Ownership was with the Charlotte Hornets. He sold it in 2023. So recently. So he had pretty much, he was running pretty much a long time from 2010 to 2023.

Dr. TAT 1:12:24

I wanted to give a quick shout out that the name the colors of the Charlotte Hornets, because this happened the other day. I wake up at like five in the morning. This is a quick anecdote. I'm interrupting corrections. I apologize. We can restart corrections, but you know, little tat will often come down at the ass crack of dawn and like we'll usually put on something. But now we're getting a little bit more of Princess Tat comes down with Little Tat and Kit Tat's still upstairs with Mrs. Tat. So Princess Tat would watch, and and the Hornets were on, and she just absolutely loved the colors. And so now we are Charlotte Hornets fans from a pure color standpoint. So you're a Bengals fan for the Tiger. I'm gonna take Princess Tat to a Hornets game when they come in town. And I've actually watched the Sixers play the Hornets and it's been fun. And then yeah, we were a Bangles.

Stat Boy 1:13:14

They did lose some of their entertainment and Lamella ball getting treated. Yeah, yeah, but the ball. But yeah.

Dr. TAT 1:13:18

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there. Okay, correct. Interesting. They always had good uh starter jackets, too, the Charlotte Hornets.

Stat Boy 1:13:25

That was the best one. Yeah, I should get one for her when she's big enough. Yeah. Shout out. That naturally transitions us to LeBron's ownership of stuff. We talked about what soccer league. So he is a Premier League owner of Liverpool FC. He acquired a 2% stake in the club in 2010. How much? Or 2011, excuse me. $50 million. Yeah, something like that, right? I mean, they're a team, yeah. But then in 21, he actually traded that stake for an equity in the Fenway sports group. So he traded his ownership in the team to go to the sports group, which is actually the parent company of Liverpool. So technically he still has ownership of the team. He just transferred it from the team specifically to the group. Yeah. Cool, huh? So he's a part owner of the Red Sox? Is that I guess they yeah, I guess they own it. Wait, do they own a Fenway or do they own the Red Sox or both? I think they own part of the the Red Sox and probably a couple other teams as well. So he probably still owns he still owns the Fox. I feel like I heard that before. Wow. So yeah, he's pretty big. That's kind of like Magic Johnson and the Dodgers, and they he owns a bunch of different things, but then that group, too. Yeah. Tank Bigsby, he is not 23. Oh, really? Yeah. He's 24. His birthday is the end of August, making him 25 at the end of August. Someone posted a false information. Well, the person that did this, I need to go and call someone from NFL.com because they incorrectly list his age on their site as 23. Oh, really? Yeah. You got to look his actual birth date up. Stephen Iris is not 23. Yeah. NFL.com get better. Yeah. Uh Cindy Brown is an Atlanta Falcon right now.

Dr. TAT 1:15:02

That's dangerous.

Stat Boy 1:15:03

Yeah.

Dr. TAT 1:15:04

They have to be really careful to take out the extremely dangerous.

Stat Boy 1:15:07

Yeah, I would I would be very careful as a safety on the Falcons. Oh, yeah. And then we're going to round out the uh we talked about IQ of some players and stuff. Yeah. So a couple couple different low IQ plays that were done through NFL history. Leon Lett. He's he's known for premature, prematurely celebrating the Super Bowl by knocking a block kick forward that allowed the Dolphins to win.

Panda Dan 1:15:30

Yep.

Stat Boy 1:15:30

Then we have Gus Farratt, who was a clarity for the yep. He headbutted a wall, concrete wall in '97, giving himself a concussion and taken to the hospital after that. And uh Donovan McNabb made this list mainly because there was he had no idea that he was unaware that a regular season NFO game could end in the time.

Dr. TAT 1:15:51

Yep, I do remember that against the Bengals. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, that was that was trouble. I also like just to piggyback off of that, the one one of the dumber plays was when the Detroit Lions in their 0 and 16 season, one of the quarterbacks that played went back to pass and unintentionally gave himself a safety by the game. So that was Orlovsky. Dan Orlovsky. Yeah, he like walked out of bounds. He didn't know he was standing out. He didn't even know he was standing out of bounds. That was cool. Yeah, that was poor awareness. Yeah. All right. Well, that's our episode. That was fantastic. Um I will say that we have a really uh I feel like, you know, when we think about the offseason, I think to myself, you know, sports, like the NFL season, it's like the greatest water slide of all time. And summer is just you going up the steps, up those wooden steps to the top. And right now, I feel like we're at that point where we're like one flight of stairs left, but I can kind of see the top, and I see like Roger Goodell is the you know, lifeguard who's about to like let me get my butt into the water and then take that slide down. There's that excitement, there's this joy that's coming out of your body as you're watching. You're gonna watch a bunch of clones then hit the crap out of each other. It's like a multi-purpose public water slide. Yeah, it's a multi-purpose public water slide. And boy, uh we're about to take that ride. And I think 2026 is gonna be one hell of a ride for for our birds. We've got a lot, we have a very special roster. So get excited. What a time to be alive. And right now, all of the musings of the NFL, Hope Springs Eternal. I'm gonna be undefeated once again in my fantasy week. I am so very much looking forward to drafting outstanding players. And we're here the entire rest of the summer as the set hike podcast to get you through. Yeah, yeah. We got yeah, I mean, fantasy football, that's something everyone can relate to. That's coming up in about you know in about a month. And then you got college football. Start that that starts a little earlier. Like you have like uh late August. I know that they're doing a game in Dublin again. I was like, it's TCU versus another good team, but basically college football and then yeah, NFL football. So it's super exciting. But but you know, people probably got vacations scheduled coming up too, so just enjoy the present and it's a good time. And yeah, but it's it's it's exciting to have football on the horizon. Live for the future, expect some greatness in the present, get ready for you or Bernard, you are Bernard to go up against Willie Lampkin for the ultimate battle. And here we go. Shout out to Jermaine Bay Berry, Coach C, best of luck. And this is the last dance. This is the last dance until we get to the twenty twenty-six NFL season. Let's go, gentlemen.

Stat Boy 1:18:44

Let's go, birds.

Panda Dan 1:18:46

Whoop! See ya.