From Grass Cutting to Greatness: Building Swan Landscapes

In this episode of The Danifesto, I’m joined by Swan Landscapes, a Liverpool based landscaping business known for clean, professional work and personalised garden designs to suit your unique style.

We talk all things business, hard work, starting from scratch, and what it’s really like running a landscaping company day to day.

If you’re into business, motivation, self employment or just love a good graft story, you’ll enjoy this one.

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Phone 07915 290694
Website https://www.swanlandscapes.co.uk

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Alright everyone, welcome back to the Dana Festo. Today I am joined by a very special guest, Kieran.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Nice to meet you.

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello Kieran, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

I'm good, you know. Thanks for having me on, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 0:10

How's your day been?

SPEAKER_01 0:11

My day today's been good. I've been out hustling as I do every day.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

How many jobs have you been on?

SPEAKER_01 0:16

How many jobs have I been on? I've been pricing jobs up today. So I go around and price jobs up and give people advice on basically helping them, saving them money where it can and when it can. So yeah, I've done a I've priced two jobs up today, and I'm I'll I'll hopefully they'll get back to me.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

So anyone who might not know you, who who are you and what do you do?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

My name's Kieran, and I'm uh the director of a landscape garden company, and I go around doing gardens, maintaining properties, and basically helping people as well with the dreams, like yourself, chasing a dream, or anyone that's trying to win, because I like to see people win. That's what I like to see. So if I can help people, I will.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Oh, that's almost boss, yeah. So uh on on like a scale of one to ten, how's your week been? Uh what was scale of one to ten?

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Yeah, well, I had to pay a 400 pound parking for the time of the day, but not a major. Other than that, I've had a good week because it's all about staying positive in your mind, and when you can stay positive in your mind, you start to win. Yeah, that's all right, yeah. So my week has been quite good. Every day's been different because every day's not gonna be great, you're not gonna feel great every day, but on them days you still go out and do it anyway, and you keep going.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

So you went to the help bank events in the box spark Liverpool, didn't you? I saw you there.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Yeah, I went to the Hell Bank event, yeah. Samuel Squib is a very good friend of mine.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

How was he? What what was it called? The event.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Yeah, the event was there. I've seen yourself there, speaking on the stage, and that's where we've met. So I've decided to come down and support you and be on your podcast because I believe in you and I believe in what you're doing. It's good because you're going on to motivate and inspire other kids to do the same.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

So I thought it went really well, you know, it went really smoothly. You had good people there, you know, like Adam, Adam's boss, and he was a good lad.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

They're all good lads, as well. Yeah, all the all the help bank team are very good lads, and uh they're how to make inspire people and make people win, you know, and get people out of jobs where they may be trapped in dead-end jobs with no equity, because I'm a full believer, man. Uh I believe everyone should have equity in something, and I believe that we should all have a right of free time for ourselves to an extent. But what really gets me at times, Danny, is people are in jobs they don't want to be in.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Oh, it's annoying because I think when you when you wake up, you should wake up and be like, sick, I've I can't wait to go to work. I can't wait to do this, can't wait to do that. But there's so many people out there who just can't be bothered because they hate what they're doing. Yeah, well, it's not a good way to live life because at the end of the day, you've only got one life, haven't you? Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Exactly. You need to find your passion, love your work, and build a richer life. And this book will absolutely help you do that because this book is written by Simon himself, and the knowledge is it in it is unbelievably valuable.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Yeah, so you are good friends with Simon, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Yeah, I am very good friends with Simon. It took me a long time to get that relationship with Simon, but Simon's a very kind, generous, good-hearted man, and he backed me and supported me when I was in a very low place, and he believes in me. He believed in me, but you've got to believe in yourself first before anyone will believe in you. But Simon is an absolute legend, mate. So, how did you end up actually meeting him? How did I meet Simon with grit, hard work, and determination and just not giving up? So, this is how it started. I was working at a frozen food factory, sat in a shitty little office. Excuse my language, but that's the truth. I was depressed. I had no I didn't know where I was going in life, and I found Simon, he popped up on the Instagram, and he had all letters in his hand, and with all the letters in his hand, I uh I thought, no, this can't be real at first. So I'm all I'm I'm one of them people meet and uh I take risks, calculated risks, and I go uh and investigate things, so I'll check everything out, everything I'll look into it. I'll I'm very good at that. Investigating people, places, and things, because that's one of my top skills. I find information out fast and I and I I go and see if people are really doing what they say they're doing, and basically I hunt and I go out because I was determined for a better way of living, and thank God to Simon Squibb and the Hell Bank team. I'm living a life today what I can't wait to wake up to, mate.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

That's mad, didn't he? Yeah, is so what what did you actually say to him and what was going through your head at the time when he was right in front of you?

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Er What did I say to him? Yeah I just said nice to meet you, Simon, and got a hug with him. Uh yeah, we had the photo taken together, and uh it went from there. And the first when I bumped into Simon, I went to a book, I went to an event at Box Park, and it was a book signing, and he's very hard to get close to Sam because he's got a lot of people, a lot of followers, a lot of followers, he's got a yeah, he's doing a lot of good in the world, yeah. He's doing a very lot of good in the world, and he's really transforming and changing people's lives day by day, every day. Yeah, and you know he's put his heart and soul into this, what he's doing, and I have a lot of respect for that man. And that night I didn't really get close to him to see him, so I went home, I was a bit gutted, and then I had a TikTok account. I got up that morning and I looked on my TikTok and he was live in Waterstones, Liverpool. In Liverpool, yeah, yeah. So I literally jumped in my van and screeched down there to Waterstones, Liverpool, yeah. And I legged it through town my heart was pounded because when you're going to that's a multimillionaire, oh yeah. A man of his calibre for help, it's scary.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Oh yeah, I bet it was because I bet your adrenal your adrenaline was running, and you're just like, oh, I would do anything to get him for and talk to him.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah, well, I would I at that point, Danny, I I was I was lost, mate, and I was I didn't know where I was going in life. Uh and I was just working dead-end jobs with no equity in the jobs, and when I started reading like reading all his stuff what Sam was speaking, it all made sense to me. Yeah, so getting back to I jumped in the van, legged it down to Waterstones, parked on double yellow lines. I got a ticket, by the way, as well. And I literally ran to Water Stones, and when I ran in the door, I didn't know if he was gonna be there or not, and there he was right there, pure fate. Oh, I run right into him, and he was selling his books at the door, talking to people, and he noticed me because I'd wrote him a letter, yeah. And he's that busy, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

And he f he can't help everyone, but he tries his best so much to reach out to everybody, he does, and what he's doing is absolutely amazing. It is, it's incredible. So, in Water Stones, is that where he handed you the£2,000? So, how did you feel when like you said, oh I need this, and he just went bang.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

I wasn't expecting it, it was pure fate, mate. When he I was not expecting to get anything that day, and I needed equipment to keep my business going, and I weren't giving up, and I was yeah, I just I have a sense of agency about myself, so I legged it towards a stone's face and proof for fate. I didn't think he would be there, I didn't even know if he was gonna be there, so I just I was running through time, sweating, mate. By the way, panicking is trying to get people out of the way, like move, you know. But honest to God, and as soon as I legged it into that door, he was right there. Oh, and it was pure fate, mate. The man himself made the legend, Sam's good, was right here. And you know what, mate? He'd been selling his books that day, and he raised that money off his books, and he kindly gave it to me, and I used that money wisely and invested in that book.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

What did you buy?

SPEAKER_01 8:57

I went and bought a brand new lawnmower.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Oh, see.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

I fixed my insurance on my van at that time because I needed my insurance to be, I was behind on my payments and uh my insurance has gone right down now, by the way, because I've been driving for a while. But yeah, I uh I actually bought a bit of shopping as well at that time. Oh good, yeah. I needed a bit of food shopping around that time, and uh I bought a blower, a strimmer, and kept the rest of the money safe for like fuel and things like that. And I bought a shitload of business cards. Ah, and then yeah, got out and really, really grinded to get where I am today. Has it paid off? Yeah, it's paying off, mate, yeah. But what I tend to do is I don't chase the transaction, I chase long-term relationships with my clients. So I'm not running into jobs thinking what I can get out of it. I go to jobs thinking, how can I help this person in a way where I can save them money, yeah, uh, and obviously get paid and do a good job for them. So that's that's how I operate today. I don't operate on running into business uh people's two houses and going rushing anything because I believe it's called delayed gratification with me. I don't need to prove anything to anyone, I know what my work's like, and I know I provide a good service, so that's how I operate today. So let's go back a bit.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

So, where where about did you grow up did you grow up in Liverpool?

SPEAKER_01 10:31

I was grow I grew up in Norris Green.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

Norris Green is something not too far from here. Yeah. Um what were you like as a kid?

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Well, as a kid I was out of control, mate, in different ways. I was just doing the wrong things, yeah. As a kid, I was uh what's his name? I was a bit naughty, so we say. Got into trouble a few times, things like that, but we surpassed that, don't we? Yeah, because we grow out of that being behind you, you know, behind you behind you.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

So what was school like?

SPEAKER_01 11:03

School Yeah, was it hard? School is very hard, mate, because they teach you a lesson, they don't teach you how to build a business, no, run a company, uh go out and really they teach you to get a job, yeah, stay trapped and go and build someone else's dream. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

I I always believe that school they teach people to go work in factories, you all have to line up, you have to ask to go to the toilet, you know, well else you you I mentioned uniform, um all have to line up. Exactly. When when you when it's like um a product, so when you do a test, you get an A. Yeah, you get a B. That's that's a product quality. So they're teaching you to work in factories. The more hard work you put in, the better number you will get. Yeah. And I can't believe because I'm doing my GCSEs at the minute, yeah, and I can't believe my life is determined on a number on a piece of paper.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Yeah, it's very true because in some of these schools, then the education system I think now is failing hundreds of kids. Yeah. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Yeah, 100%. Definitely the people who aren't turned on to go like, oh, let's start a podcast. Oh, well, let's go on Shopify and let's you know, let's open a business, let's sell key rings, let's go wash cars, exactly. The loser kids who aren't like that, they just follow the system and then they get trapped. Exactly. And it's people like them who if they don't stand up for themselves, we can't make a difference. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

And get out. Another thing is it's people like you inspire me, mate. Because I can see that you're passionate about what you're doing, and that's why I'm here today to support you. And if anyone watches this podcast, I want you to get behind this lad, and most of all, buy this book as well. Yeah, support what you're doing, buy it on Amazon, buy on Amazon or whatever you can, or go to Waterstones in Liverpool and buy it. But most importantly, as well, believe in yourself and believe that anything's possible. Things take time, not an app and all happens overnight. I always used to be in a rush, mate. And I wanted everything, but I today I'm not chasing the transaction. Like I said, I'm chasing a beautiful journey.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

It will eventually come.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

And you'll just like click claim all the little bits, and then one day you'll sit back and go, I've just picked everything up as as time went on.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

That's exactly how it works, mate. And I've learned a lot of this information from Samuel Squibb.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Yeah, yeah. Because have you read his book?

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Oh, I've read his book. I've read this three times.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

I I've I've done a few, you know, listened to a few audio books of it, and it's it's it's really inspiring.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

It is inspiring, mate, and it that could save your life. Not only changed your life, I I believe that could save people's lives. 100%. 100%, mate.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

And definitely what he's done with with that doorbell as well. Anyone can just go and ring and catch my idea.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

What he's done with that doorbell, mate, is thousands and thousands, if not millions, of people have been helped.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Yeah, if you want to learn about the doorbell, go buy the book, and in the first few chapters, he buys this random building. Yeah, it's the staircase of dreams. And the BBC. We're like, what are you doing? Why do I just spend all this money on this stupid building? When it's got it's got no it's got no address. I don't think he had an address, or something like that. No, it didn't. I've been to the doorbell. Have you been?

SPEAKER_01 14:20

Yeah, I've been down there, yeah. Yeah, pitch my dream.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Uh a few years, it was like a few 2023, I think, when I said to my mum, Hey, can I go ring the doorbell? I said, Don't be silly. No, no, I actually just want to ring a doorbell. And then I've I've taught my mum about Simon and what he does and all that. Yeah, yeah. And um talk about help bank, and then the event popped up in Liverpool. So I said, Please can I go? So yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

How how how did you find Simon with your on social media?

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Social media because you have social media to you think fingertips, yeah, yeah. And it's mad in Australia, they want to ban under 16s to social media because without social media, most people who are famous, like you know, KSI, for example. I've heard of him, yeah. He will be no one without social media.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Social media, it's a very powerful thing, social media. And it's very powerful because you can find a lot of information out about people if you know the right ways to go about it, and you can literally do anything, and that's the way the world's moving forward today. Oh, oh, it is on social media.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

So let's move back to when you were you growing up and a kid. Where did you into gardening when you were younger? Doing landscape and all that. Where did it all come from?

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Well, where did all this garden come from? Yeah. I sometimes I when it I was in a bad place at certain points in my life. I was struggling with different things. Bit of a this, bit of that, which I won't really go into today. No, no. But put it this way, I struggled from a kid because I was moved to places where I didn't want to be moved to, and put in places that without my family and my parents when I was a young kid, so that really ate me that. And I'm over it now, lads. I move forward every day and I keep going.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

So where does garden stem from? I was in a low place and I just started I bought I bought a petrol strimmer. I used to play a lot round with tools a lot when I was a kid. I bought a petrol strimer, and I just started knocking on doors, yeah, and I was stressed out around the time. And then this lady, I walked past this house, and this lady was putting loads of bags of compost into the shed, and I said, Do you need a hand with that? She said, Oh go on, love, give me a hand. So I picked this bag of compost up, big and massive, and it split and ripped, and it fell all over me. So I had to pick it all up, and I was deep, I was like quite stressed out. I think as soon as I put my hands on that soil, I had this like release of stress.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Yeah, so I believe within you just yeah, it's like nature.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

I love nature, I love trees, and I love uh being in nature where plants are.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Really good for your mental health be it being outside, 100%, mate.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

You know, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

So yeah, it's really good for your mental health being outside.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

100%, mate, and that's where I found my passion. I thought this is what I'm gonna do. But I I used to do it with my granddad when he when I was a kid, so I learned things like from him as well. But I know gardening can change people's lives, especially community gardens, and like my big dream is to get a piece of land and buy it and have my home.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

You want to build your house, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Yeah, I want my biggest dream is to buy my own home. I'll never take a mortgage out because you're trapped to a mortgage, so that's I know you are. It's like buying all shiny objects and nice things and all nice clothes, they become to own you in the end. So the way I'm gonna know about it, mate, is when I've got the cash, I'll buy it outright. And I'm gonna if it happens, it happens. But I think objects and materials can start to own you because I used to be like into a bit of that having to fit in wearing all clothes to feel right, but today I couldn't give a fuck, mate. I I wear I've got about three pairs of keks, I have three sets of clothes, and about ten coats, socks, army boxes. I don't need all that stuff like I used to have, all these nice fancy jackets and all that because they just they start to own you. Yeah, it doesn't bring you anything, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

It doesn't bring joy brings you joy for the first a few hours, and then a few hours, and then you want to get another one, and another one, and then another one you can do. Or you want more.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

And I've always learned I've learned not the hard way, but yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

But moving on from that, uh today's I feel quite good mentally and spiritually, mate. Good, and I'm inspiring and motivating people to go on.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

You motivated me, you know, to go to go go chase siren.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Did I? Yeah, yeah. Well done, mate. I'm motivating everyone to go and chase siren because I'll read this book. Definitely get this book, mate. No, yeah. The book's a absolutely there's a lot of valuable information in that book. So my strong advice people to go and buy it if you only watch our podcast, if you are watching, yeah, and get behind this guy as well. Behind him, because he's a legend, you know. And I don't give me time to people who don't believe in because you're just wasting your time and energy. But I believe in Danifesto, because I just know by their energy. So get behind this guy, man, support him. Even if you've got loads of old gear, con uh podcast gear or anything, you know, if you can fund them and support him in any way, please help this guy.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Thank you so much. So you've got you've got your own business now, haven't you?

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, yeah, I've got my own business.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

So people have to start from somewhere, like you've just said, oh, here and that. So when did it stop feeling like a little jobs and started feeling like a real business, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:56

When I got off my arse and I'm really pushed it and got out in the Out there and absolutely went and found the people that I was looking for. Because starting a business with nothing is not an easy job, but I highly say you don't need money to start a business, don't know it. You just need a sense of urgency about yourself, and what you do need is you need to be able to speak to strangers because you won't uh you won't get far, I'm afraid, to tell you if you can't communicate and talk to absolutely anybody. So that's my advice. Get up, dress up, and show the fuck up, mate. And get out there and go and find what you're looking for, mate.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

That's it. So, how did you get customers in the beginning? Because I don't think you started social media straight away.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

I went knocking on doors, mate. Knocking on doors. Walking down the street to the petrol or more and a strimming on my shoulder and getting laughed at. And now I've got a good garden business and I'm starting to really win. But I like I said, going back, I don't I'm not bothered about all this money at the minute. I'm bothered about me getting to know me and finding me at the minute, healing to becoming the best version of me.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

So did you ever have did you ever have situations where you thought like, oh, it's been three weeks now, and I'm not getting any business, I'm not getting any income, I'm a failure, I need to just go get a real job.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

There's days of doubt, mate, and there's days where you just can't be asked. But you know them days when you can't be asked if you just get up and go out and do what you have to do, just do it anyway, you win. It's like God guard you there. Because I have a faith in the universe, me and God. I believe there is a God, and I believe that when you be more grateful and be thankful for what's around you and what you've got, you start to attract more.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

So when you go round and you get you get business, not all customers are nice. Do you get any proper nightmare customers?

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Definitely. Yeah. Well, you'll get people who say, What are you doing on my property?

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Have you ever gone to the wrong house? Well, not really, you know. No, because I've seen videos online where you go, like, next door neighbour. They they they have called someone to say, Can you do a new like can you cut me bus or whatever? And then and then you've done the wrong house and they're like, What you doing while you why are you working on it?

SPEAKER_01 22:30

No, I haven't done that. Thank God for that. But you get some funny looks. I go to the biggest best areas. Oh, so park me back. Well, form B, Ormskirks, Southport, and what I do is I find the biggest, best houses because they're the locations where I love working. Yeah, but I never ever forget about the customers that help me on the way up. I always take a day out through the summer to do all of them in one day.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

Because roaming right, I like to roam where wealth is and people who are doing big things because I believe surround yourself with them kind of people, and then you're gonna start winning and you're gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Yeah. So, what job are you most proud of? Do you have any photos of the job that you've just gone? Wow, this is like this is my best. This is like a way, a work of art.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Yeah, I've got a few with like terfe jobs I've done because I don't do big massive garden design like porcelain tiles, all that. I'm more of a maintenance man. I look after the gardens, I look after the property. Sometimes I even look after the gutters on the properties. So when I build these long-term relationships with these clients, I look to build and I look to build long-term relationships with them where I can then have them as long-term.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah, like a direct debit. So yeah, come every month, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Well, some of the jobs are hourly rated, but then it's my price, not a big company's price, no, where they're giving me no equity and using me as a slave and then treating me like shit, and like tell me when to go for a piss, when when to go home. But one other thing that really pisses me off is the whole world is leaving work at the same time, yeah, and it doesn't make sense to me, in some ways it doesn't. That's why it's clogged up with traffic everywhere and everyone's in a rush. I've learned today just to chill out and just go with the flow.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Yeah, so rush. So when you're really stressed and you've got like a lot on, what happens in your head? What what what goes through your head, you know?

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Uh you just overthink and you can overthink, but and you make many mistakes as well. When you're rushing, you'll always make mistakes, impulsive, and if you're in the wrong circle of people, you'll make even more mistakes because some people we're all energy, some people are not on your mindset level, so therefore they will drain your fucking energy, mate. And they'll try and tell you that this is impossible, that isn't possible, and you can't do this, you can't do that, but you can because you can do anything if you put your mind to it.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

So, do you ever shut off at night? You know, do you have trouble switching off at night?

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Some nights I just can't wait to wake up in the morning, so I don't want to go to sleep, but you have to, you need sleep. The job I do, you need sleep. Yeah, but I absolutely love my job today. I love what I'm doing and I love where I am in life. But it's took me a very long time to get here, and I don't ever intend to go back to the old life and no one could ever take me there because I'm my own boss now. I've got my own thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Yeah, so on this podcast I mainly talk about like ADHD and all that. So do you reckon you have a AD? I have a bit of a diagnosed.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

I haven't I'm I'm I haven't been diagnosed, but I've be I've got I've just chat with a doctor and that and he really believes that. Well ADHD isn't a bad thing because it can be used to your advantage.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

So it can, it is a same as a disability because it can disable other things.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

But I like to use it as a superpower.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

A superpower.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

If my mind never switches off, then I get idea after idea after idea after idea. That's right. And at the end of the day, I've got all these ideas. Some are really good, some are really, really, really bad. Well, not like really, really, you know, like rubbish, rubbish ideas. But it really, it really helps sometimes. But sometimes it's just nice to just switch off, but you can't.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

Well, saying like A Diggs, I used to struggle with my mind.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

But a lot of it was self-inflicted, mate. Yeah, because I was doing the wrong things, drinking alcohol to the excess where I was fucking I was fucked. And like, you know, I had no I had no purpose. Yeah. But thanks to Simon Squibb. So waking me up and opening the ultrapreneur muscle up in my brain, I'm a different person. So did he push you? Simon Squibb literally saved my life.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Did did he push you, like push it to the limit?

SPEAKER_01 27:07

He told me you know how to do it, where to do it, and when to do it. And all his advice and information is invaluable, mate.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Oh, I'm I'm proud of you, you know. Yeah. You're doing really well.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

But proud of me, lads, today. I've quite a year or two ago, lads, I was in I I hated myself, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

I just didn't want to fucking do anything. I didn't want to carry on with life. He's just staying in bed or some days, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 27:31

It gets tiring, doesn't it? If you don't know if you've got no purpose. If you think you've got no purpose, it it just gets tiring.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Of course it does. It really does. That's all some people need is just one person to believe in them.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Yeah, just put push you.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

And push you.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Put you out of your comfort zone. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

I love getting out of my comfort zone, mate. I like taking risks. Yeah. Calculated risk. I'm not telling anyone to take risks, by the way, but I like to go to I like to try and get in rooms where they weren't meant to be in.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

That's what I do. I chase people with a sense of urgency, mate.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Well, I I always think big risk equals big reward.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Trust me, it does pay off.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Yeah, I think after time as well. It does. If you don't make a stupid risk, like jump off a mountain, you know what I mean? Yeah. But if you make like how you say that, you know, educated.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Yeah, calculated. Calculated the word you used. Yeah, yeah. Calculated risk. Not saying go to the bed and shop and put 500 quid on the road. But yeah, yeah. There's a certain extent of risk you have to take to get successful. I'll tell you that now. You've got to have a sense of urgency about yourself, and you've got to get up every day, you've got to get washed, dressed, and with everything clean on you, because that's a very important thing, and that will make you feel a lot better.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Yeah. So you you mentioned you ever think you have ADHD and you're pretty sure about it. So in your whole life without knowing, has has it affected work? Has it affected your routine, money, relationships? You know?

SPEAKER_01 29:04

It's affected a lot of things in my life. Yeah. Because I was in a fucking rush all the time, and I was I bet I bet I bet you were confused because you didn't know why.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

But all the other people were like, oh you know, calm, composed, and then you're there rushing everywhere, and everything's getting broke, fucking dropping my phone, fucking leaving my coat in the house, running out, forgetting my keys, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

You're probably like wanting questions. You're probably, you know, you want and questions, you know, wanting answers. You're probably wanting a bunch of answers. Why?

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Basically, well, I didn't know what I think of. I didn't know what was going on, but a lot of it was down to Myself. I had to take and accept Sorry, mate, I'm tired. I had to take and accept responsibility for me and where I was going wrong in life, and it was what I was associating myself with because a big part of getting better is removing yourself from surrounding places that do not save you.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

No, it's like saying I always have this in my head. It's let's say that this the spot bottle of water. Yeah. Yeah. In Costco, it's about like 10p, isn't it? But then on a train, it's about£2. And on a plane, it's about£10.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

And then let's say you go to, you know, Paris and the Eiffel Tower, it's£15.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Probably, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

You know what I mean? And then you go to you go to the um what's that? The Empire State Building in New York, and it's£25 for a bottle of water. Yeah. It's the same bottle of water, but your value changes in your environment.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

So if if you're in the wrong environment, you're worth nothing.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

But if you're worth if you're if you're in the right location, you're worth value. You're you're worth everything. So yeah, as I say, you know, with your water, it's all about where where you are.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Where you are, and I fully believe that with a business. Where you start your business is very, very, very important. Yeah. It's like you can this bottle of water could be worth a pound in like say a rundown area. Yeah. If you go to Southport or you go even further out, it could be worth uh the value of it goes up.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

It's the same saying there was a same with everything. There was a dog cafe uh a few blocks down. I'm like, why would you open a dog cafe in Old Swan?

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Yeah. But a lot of people go to them kind of places.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

I know, but that's morning, like in the posh areas, you know, where they pay to for a dog to have a steak. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Was that what it is? A dog cafe?

SPEAKER_00 31:37

Yeah, a dog cafe where you take your dog and your dog has a whole meal. It's a good idea, good idea, but just not executed right in the location.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

There's a lot of uh there's a lot of cats, cafe's as well. Yeah, I don't get them.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Why would you want to eat your meal with a bunch of cats going around you? I don't know. But anyway, so when you're not working, what does a normal day look like for you?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

I get up, I tell myself, keep going every day. I say, just do it anyway. That's one of my things. Just do it anyway. I when I'm not working, I get I do cycling. Oh, I see, bike riding, but I'm always working because I've always got on me a bunch of these business cards. Business cards?

SPEAKER_00 32:18

I might nice to have one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Yeah, of course you can, mate. And recommend me to your friend as well. But yeah, I've always got a bunch of business cards with me, so I'm always working, but it might be lightweight just going, there you go, mate, and I make a I'll get a lot of sales from doing this.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Because that's one of my skills. I've got a good skill in communicating, talking to people, helping people, and making sales.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

So what are you trying to build towards at the end of the day?

SPEAKER_01 32:46

I'm rebuilding my whole entire life, mate. I'm I'm here and what I'm trying to build is structure, foundations to then go on. Cause it doesn't I'm I love my gardening, but I'm not looking to stay in that for the rest of my life. I'll be doing it for a very long time because I love what I'm doing. Even you could build the company up and then sell the company up. Yeah, well, I don't think that would be. I don't I wouldn't be selling nothing because I have an eight-year-old lad, and if anything, I he'd be getting him he's gonna be involved in it, and that's it. But I think you don't want to sell anything, but it is a possibility, yeah, yeah. It is a possibility client-based, but I love my clients and I love working with them. So, my one question is why do you like doing what you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 33:36

I like in my podcast, yeah, yeah. So I love doing my podcast because I just want to help as many people as possible, whether it's teachers, schools, yeah, good lads, families, individuals, yeah, young people, old people, yeah, middle age, anyone. I just want to help as much people and have relatable content that they can just watch and enjoy.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

That's brilliant because what you're doing, lads, is inspiring others like your age to go on and build a better life, to love the work, find the passion, and do great things in their life. So I have a lot of respect for you, Dan. I really do, mate. I just want other question, Lisa. How long have you struggled with your mental health?

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Struggle, so mental health, everyone's got it, even if you think you don't have it, everyone's got it. Yeah, it's it's been so you can have good mental health and bad mental health as well. Say my whole life. Yeah, but I've struggled when it's been good, and I've struggled when it's been bad.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

You know what I mean? I don't know. I I can fully relate to that. So yeah, yeah, my whole life, really. We all do have mental health to a certain extent. I have a big thing on it, mate. I have friends as well who probably suffer with mental health when they don't realise it.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

They don't realise they got it, but everyone has got mental health, it's really sad, tough world.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Do you do you use any medication for that, Danny?

SPEAKER_00 34:55

So I did, I was on ADHD medication, yeah, but then it made me really depressed. And it just wasn't for me because I have a two-hour taxi ride, I have an hour there and an hour and an hour back. So I'd used to have it in the morning, yeah, and it put my appetite off. So I used to be really, really starving. Yeah, yeah. On the taxi way back. So it put my appetite off. So um I'll go into school, I wouldn't want to eat because I wouldn't be hungry. But on the way back, it'll wear off and I'm starving, and I get hungry, I get hungry and hungry.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

So we're gonna start going like, I want food, you know what I mean? Yeah, but medication can be the wrong thing for some people.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

So and also the people who have they've tested medication on hasn't been for long. They've only tested it for like five years or less. You don't know what the proper effects are after 20 years, after 30 years.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Because I think some doctors just go bam, bam, bam, give you all this, take that, and you'll be fucking just fine. Yeah, put you on the sick.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

You're liter you're literally high, they're literally drugging.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Drugging people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

So if you're on medication and it works for you, that's that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Yeah, you know, it works for you, that's it. But some people it doesn't work, but some people it doesn't work, so well, yeah, the the offer I I was offered like medication, I did try it at some point, and it made me put on a lot of weight and I could not think straight from it. I couldn't think for myself anyway, put it that way. But yeah, and where do you want to be five years from now?

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Five years from now. I just want to be in a happy world where you know people can come up to me and ask me for advice and that because I'm not that fully educated in the actual brain, so I won't say all these clinical words that I don't even know the meaning of. Uh because that my podcasts aren't a science lesson. Yeah, yeah. So I can't give you the scientific terms of the AZHD brain. But what I can do is I can give you advice for I've got myself. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 37:00

But what you're doing, lads, is you're motivating and inspiring other people, like yourself with disabilities, and like myself, I all we all have some mental health to a certain extent. But what you're doing is inspiring, and don't ever give up, lads, because I'm a lot older than you, but I'm here today because I believe in you and I want to support you in any way that I can.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

And this is the way that I can support you so people can watch our content.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

So I'll add you into all this as well.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

So thank you so much. We'll do a collaboration on uh Instagram, that would be brilliant, and we're you all we're like fast playing, like you bet I bet you'll have it all done soon, won't you? I'll probably have it all done Sunday soon. Well, good on you, because I will say this and I'll say it again. Yeah, have a sense of urgency, yeah, and that is how you win.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

Yeah, because I would love to edit it for a week and get it perfect, yeah, but at the end of the day, I'm like, no, just get it out, keep it authentic, get it out. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 37:59

That's the best way to be in life, you know, to be authentic, be real, be honest. Don't ever try to sell something to somebody that doesn't need it to sell into them, and that's how you operate. Yeah, well it's been yeah, uh it's been a pleasure to come on your podcast.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

So thank you so much, Kenan, for coming. You're welcome, mate. Thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

And one other thing is I hope that you younger generation are inspired by this lad. Because I really believe in this lad and what he's doing, because he's gonna change lives, he's gonna help people, and he's gonna go on to motivate them. So if anyone's out there, I'm asking you please to get behind this lad and help him, give him guidance, give him any information, any of your big podcasters, contact him to come on your podcast, get behind him. Man, he's trying, and that's what I love. He's putting himself out there and he's he's all in. I believe he's all in, and he wants to build his own podcast big. So as like I say though, it's step by step. Things will take time, mate. It will, nothing happens overnight, but you keep going, my G. Reason, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Right, everyone, thank you. Thank you, thank you for tuning in and listening. Listen to Anafesto.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Thanks for tuning in, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

And go on plug your social media, you know.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Yeah, yeah. Well, I am a landscape gardener, and it's Swan Landscapes, I am, and uh you can find me there, Swan Landscapes.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

I'll link I'll link it in the description.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Yeah, he'll link it all in.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Um what do you say if you're in the Merseyside area, um I'll go Defoe all over Merseyside.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

I'll travel outreach if it's if it's worth it for me.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

So could contact Kieran and he'll tell her yeah if you can make it to your house or not.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Yeah, not a problem.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

It's been a pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Thank you very much, my G.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

This has been the Dana Festo, and thank you very much.