S1: EP15 Singing Myth Busting With Chloé

Come one, come all as we embark on a group singing lesson with our very own Chloé! 

She’ll talk us through the different ways we can use our voices, the popular styles of singing that we’re hearing a lot of lately and sell us on the philosophy “everyone can sing”!

So grab some honey and lemon, warm up those voices and join us for our version of a musical episode!

If you’d like more information and updates, follow us on Instagram @thetransatlantictakespod and TikTok @tttakespod 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Hi guys!

SPEAKER_00 0:07

It's Mae and Chloe, and this is the Transalantic Days! Welcome to episode 15!

SPEAKER_02 0:15

Yeah! And today, guys, we have the privilege of Chloe basically teaching us how to sing. Hey, here we go! No harmonies or shit coming out of me today. So excited.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

We're gonna get everyone singing by the end of it. Let's go. She's gonna teach us how to sing.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

She's gonna break a lot of um myths, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Yeah, just answer some questions and like different yeah, try and pull apart some things about singing because I feel like it's quite daunting, I feel like, when someone's like even just to do like karaoke, I feel like is quite intense. Yeah, I know. So um, it's not scary, and my philosophy is everyone can sing. So we're gonna get it. That's one of my first questions. So we're gonna get everyone um to fully believe that they can sing. You could do it, I know. See? It's already working.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

It's happening. So the reason why I wanted to do this episode is because Chloe has um always been able to sing like you're classically trained. Yes. But I remember when I first heard you sing, I nearly threw up with joy. Threw up with joy. Threw up, I was like, oh my god. Because it's like a princess, but also you don't just sing soprano we it feels like you can kind of go lower. In my head, you've got quite a big range. I try, I try. I try. Chloe's gonna get all like miffy on me. Stop this shit now. Every single day, no, every single episode, we always have um this bitch can hum nice. I know, you always say, you hear this bitch hum. It's crazy. I'm like, what? But it's this is this is a perfect example of it, right? I I hear girls hum when they're trying to, you know, it's like trying to hum something out uh like a tune. I envy those people that can hum. Like Ariana Grande will be like, like humming in like a disgustingly good, it's how do you hum and riff? Like, so we're gonna like go into this a lot. But I uh my first question to you, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

We have questions, it's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

So my first question to you Yes Um Wait, no, I have a thing is like sorry guys, I can't stop laughing. I know, I love it. It's me going, it's like rhythm. People don't have rhythm.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

So you mean it's the same as like dancing?

SPEAKER_02 2:25

So I was saying there are Chloe, yeah, some people just don't have rhythm, right? So when you watch them dance, you're like, oh they're drying. I'm one of those people. You don't think you have rhythm?

SPEAKER_00 2:33

I feel like I can like manufacture rhythm, but I don't know if I have it like naturally. Right.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

So I look at certain people and I'm like, there's no rhythm in you whatsoever. Like, you know, when a beat's coming, they don't know what part of their body to pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I know what you're meaning. So there I go. The next question was Um, are you born with it?

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Maybe it's Maybelline. Maybe it's Maybelline. Um, I don't think so. So I think that's a really good like comparison because like I also believe that everyone can dance. You know, it's the same kind of philosophy. Get into it, yeah. But like, I think if you believe you can, then you should be able to. You can do it. But I also think that both things are trainable. Yes. And they are like, because especially singing, I'll speak from experience because like I'm not a dancer. Yeah. Um, but as a singer, like you it is a muscle that you train. Yeah. So it's the same thing as like going to a gym or doing something specific that you know the strengthens a muscle in your calf or in your like bicep. It's the same thing, it's just internal. So it's hard to see see the growth or like to see like the the way it works. So I think when you understand like how how to go about it, I think it is something that you can learn and like you can fully learn to sing and you can go from zero to hero, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

So you just saying that brought back a lot because in in Dramas Go and Arda, yes, we had to do like a singing elective, and then we had to do it for second year across the board, everyone had to do it. I remember um singing every week, and by the end of that week I could like formally belt. Yeah. Not not like you know, not stupid, crazy, like God, there was a girl called Steph Bolshej over here. Oh yeah, she's amazing. So I couldn't belt, but I could belt if you could like have that like power behind it.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

So it'd be like, maybe you can do it, just hit it. Like, and I so but now if I was to go home and try and do that song, I couldn't do it. So you just saying like you have to keep going at it makes a lot of sense because I don't think I could do it. The one I could. What was the how was that? Oh god, you're gonna be so gassed. Pajama game, uh pajama game? Yes, the one where it's like um I'm not at all uh in love. It's like I'm not at all. Oh yes, yes, so cute and it was like pingy, and I remember I had to do it for the audition for Doug, and I was there and I did it, and I sat down, and Hannah was like, that was really pingy. I was like, Pingy? Yeah, I was pingy.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Um that's such a good buzzword as well, pingy, because that's what a lot of people are aiming for. Pingy, yeah, like because there's different like voice qualities, and like pingy is one that's like it means like resonant and means like bright and like. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Yeah, no, it's really good. But I'm not a musical theatre gal, which is why every time I sit, because Chloe, you would say that you're a musical theatre girl in regard to singing. Like if you if you could do any musical on the West End right now and someone was like, right, go, what would you do?

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Um would it be Phantom? I would love to do phantom. I my dream was always to be Christine and Phantom. She doesn't dance a lot either. No, but the thing is, yeah, she is like technically a ballerina, but um, but she doesn't do that much.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

I don't know if you guys know but Timothy Charmay thinks ballerina's a shit. Sorry, side note, go a side note, but an important side note, an opera.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

An opera is about it.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

What? He's ruining this episode. Yeah. No, he's ruining like what we're like trying to really push through today. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

It's so like it's frustrated me. That's my take of the week. Yeah, we're talking as well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

So Christine is um she would love to be. She hits opera notes.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Operatics. She's opera, like she is so it's like that Phantom of the Opera is like a rock opera. So it is like, it is operatic, but it does fall into like the normal more typical like musical theatre category as well. Because I mean, if you hear like the score, it is like it's like not your typical opera style, but like the way they sing is like classical and like operatic sounding. Um, so I would love I always wanted to do that, but I don't know if I'm as I'm as strong of a soprano anymore. I don't know. Everything like I'm still a soprano pimp, don't worry about it. But that is like top, top of the register, like impossible notes, like shows a week kind of.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Can you do this for us then? Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

So so we're not gonna be like close singers right now, but if we get to it, we're fucking doing it. Um if I like, right, let's just go from this. From um the lowest register, or the lowest, what would you call it? Like the lowest note of your range kind of thing. But what would you say? Like, you know how someone says to me, like, oh Chloe or a soprano, or someone says to you, Chloe you're a soprano. Yeah. What do you call that? It's like well. Your bass.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Like so like you mean you're like tenor, bass, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you would that's your voice type. Voice. So it would be like you were a soprano, a mezzo, an alto. What's below alto? A tenor, a tenor, and then it goes into like the male, yeah. So then it'd be a tenor, baritone, bass. Wow! All the way down. Tennis, females can also be tenors too. I didn't know that. It depends on how like is Adele a tenor? A tenor? Oh, is she just al type? She's probably alto mezzo because she's she can get up there too, and she's such a belter that it is like. Can she hit soprano? No. I mean, probably in her head voice. Like, yeah, which is the one. So, yeah, essentially, like your voice type, you can it's like what you're grounded in, but like it doesn't mean that you can't do like lower songs if you're a soprano. It doesn't mean that you can't explore like for men, it's like the falsetto, which is like the head voice. Yeah, yeah, I love that. It's like a flip into like a more, but then you know, if you're a soprano, you might be classically trained, but then you can definitely move into like more belty musical theatre, like mezzo, alto, range, like that like area. Right. But it's more so just like what you're what you're trained in, what you're most comfortable in, like where your range lies. So it's more so about like literal note to note on a piano, like how high can you go?

SPEAKER_02 8:16

What is the highest note on a is it a C? Highest note a soprano can hit. Like, what is your highest note? It really does depend. Right, what's your highest note you can hit?

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Oh god, it used to be so C middle C was. I used to be able to do like a top G. Like it was. Is that like crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No way. I used to be able to go right up there. What's a top C? It was it was I was like, The idea of a C note makes me want to throw up.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

I'm not joking. There's a lot of throwing up today.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

A C note I can't hit a C. Yeah, but you could hit, you could hit, there's many C notes. This is what, like, you can do a piano. Like, so you go like A, B, C, D, E, F, G. Yeah. And then that happens like one, two, three, four, five, six times. So can you hit a six C? It would be like a five C, a C five. That's really hard. Like, that's high.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

Oh my god, you're teaching me so.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done like I've like stretched to uh one of those C's before. And like usually when I'm especially when I was in like singing lessons. Of course. When you're like doing your warm-ups and stuff, like I would be like my singing, my singing teacher, Michael Joseph, I love him. He used to push me right up. So like, and I wouldn't even notice how high I was going, because like he'd be on the piano and I would just be behind and he'd be like, Go, go, go. How does um he push you?

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Like, how would he be like if he's on the piano and he's like you'd be going, you'd go, go, go, go, go.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

So it would just be like, you know, like if you when you've done like a warm-up in school, like if you did like a singing warm up, you'd be like, da da da da. Yeah, yeah. And you keep and you just keep going in whatever like warm-up you were doing. And then you would go and go and go. And then he just would stop and he was like, I think you could go. He would just in his brain be like, I think she could do one more. I think she could do one more, and would just take you. Oh, so you would just keep, you know, doing as you were going, and then at the end he'd be like, You you hit a C there. Or like, like, look at you, girl, go. Like, you couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Because in school they do the like, um uh Yeah. So every time they all I know he went across the scales to do it, but you could just feel like me, the boys, people being like, Yeah. And then you're in head voice. Yeah, so you can flip over to head voice. But I definitely flipped into head voice. Is that a good thing or a bad thing if you're doing a warm-up?

SPEAKER_00 10:29

For a warm-up, um, you're meant to for a warm-up, you're meant to keep it all quite light. So if you do want to like flip into your head voice, like that's good too. You're meant to warm up the entire range. So whatever you wanna, whatever you want to do, it's just more about straining. So if you strain, like if you are hurting your voice in any sort of way, you have to like dip out. If anything feels like you're you're harming yourself, like you really have to just stop it because that is not good. Like your vocal folds will start to like, you know, you could get like nodes or something that like really does like harm you. You have I have nodes, real thing. Dan had nodes.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

I know, I remember we witnessed we were in play when he had nodes, he was like no, because the way he said it as well was awful.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

He was like, I have nodes, and I was like, like pitch perfect. He was like, Yeah, yeah, it was the most it's the most terrifying thing.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

It's scary, it's really scary. It's like you know, breaking breaking a bone if you're an athlete, like or like pulling a muscle. It's like one of those things. You're like, what? It's amazing. And it's like similar to what happened to like Adele and like Julie Andrews, like they had to go for that. Like, yeah, she had to go for Julie Andrews didn't sing until Princess Diaries 2. She's soprano-y. Oh, she's like soprano. Yeah, she is. Yeah, she's like definitely people that I would oh another one that I would have loved, I would love to do.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Wait, you don't even answer my question, which is the one that you would do on the West End right now.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Oh, see, this is my issue with the West End right now. I mean, there's a lot of great things that are going on, but especially like modern days musical theatre, it's just a lot of belting and a lot of like big voices, and like, yes, like that is so impressive. My concern is that a lot of singers right now, as amazing as they are, and I as well trained as they are, it's it's kind of like a a game of like who can like belt the house. Do like the most riffs or like make you know, make a choice with a song, and it's like and it's all that, and like there's a lot of like jukebox musicals right now as well. So like the that kind of singing is like oh, it's incredible, and like that's what sells, yeah. But like there isn't much space for someone like me who is more of like a classical Broadway type of person. So what I just heard was there is that she wants to be Glinda. I'd like to be Glinda for me. Thank you. Glinda's but Glinda also gets quite belty too, because of how popular part of the pun, how popular it's gotten recently, and like obviously Ariana Grande doing it is like she's perfection doing it, but she is like a pop singer, so she's got like that. She made it into like she's so like riffy, and like I like she's she's perfect, do not change.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Um but do you think that's spreading into West End now?

SPEAKER_00 13:07

It's just an influence because like I you know, there's even conversation about like that version from the film of popular going into the musical. And like, so like which is really cool, but it just like allows you know more room for that kind of like variety.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Would you agree that not everyone can do a Cynthia Revo? No, no way. That's why that that's why that worked is because she was like, let's do something different. Literally that. Guys, I really hope you enjoyed that. That was me dry. I would love to actually try. I think I was in my kitchen, like You have to.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

I genuinely tried, and I was like, no. Do you ever do you ever like turn on the the YouTube like instrumentals and just belt it out? Yeah. As soon as I'm home alone, I'm like, There's like the sing king or whatever it is, like the karaoke king comes out.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

You know what I can sing really fucking well? What? I'll make a man out of you. Oh yes. You've got that like that gust. But I have a dust, but I sing it as I'm Right. We're gonna get back to topic. Um I was told, I think I've told you this story before. I was told in school when I walked my little little arse in to do this audition, I sang, I sang My Funny Valentine. Oh, cute. Love a little Frank. And then I sang, um, oh god, what the hell was the I sang a musical number. I think it was like two little lines. Have you heard of that thing? I was like, why should I be scared of two little lines? It's not for a musical, but it's like a standalone. Oh, right. It's really cute. If it's like it's about this girl like losing her shit over being pregnant. Um it's so good. I could sing it so well. I'm like, and the woman taught me how to do this. I did um I did my nasal. Yeah, you did your resonance. I did my resonance. So I got in there and I was like, that sounds good. And then she I could also do like the tiny little end belt, which felt nice, yes, but also it was in my key. I hate trying to find keys. We'll get onto that. Yeah. So I was told when I went in, they were like, uh Jennifer, she was gorgeous to me. She was uh very kind and very patient, and I was like, listen. Um, you know, I you know, because I'm an alto. She goes, No, babe, no, you're not at all. And I was like, sorry? I went, babe, I'm not a soprano. She goes, No, you're a messel. She's doing this on the piano. She's like, no, hit here, hit here. And I was like, alone with her, which made it very easy. Because I have stage fright when it comes to singing in a room full of people, which obviously Arda trains you out of. Yeah. Um, because you have to, you gotta get past it.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Even I was like, oh my god, this is the worst.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Yeah, it's a lot, but also you love that, you have that beautiful level which going, I can sing, but if I cracked, I would yaw the your your perfectionist head would freak out. Yeah. So I was there, like, I don't feel comfortable at all. And she's like, No, maybe if you're a Meza, we're gonna keep it in this key, and she'd always pick a key, but I can't remember the fing key it would be in.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

But it probably depends, because like you're still training, so like you know, a key that you would use maybe at the beginning of your training might differ from what you're doing. Could I hit a C3? Is that what you call it? She's laughing at me, but see, I'm sure isn't C3 middle C? Yeah, that for everyone can everyone can hit that. That's that's right in the middle. So 4C is bit pissed take. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You you could you can get up there. I need like a piano in front of me to be like, where am I? You have your phone with you. You have the little piano on you too. We can find that.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

This is gonna be so messy.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

I can download it otherwise. Guys, just so you know, Chloe's looking on her phone. But I need you to know that singing with Chloe, if you don't hit something, she will train you how to do it. It's amazing. I guess. I think that happened a few times though, didn't it? I was like, Chloe, I can't do this. And she's like, try going, you can do it. Everyone can open the back of your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Right, and download, re-download it.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Okay, while you're doing that.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah, but no, um, yeah, your range, like it does, it differs. And like you, I feel like people like a lot of the time just like shut off when they like, you know, they're like, oh, you can, you know, you can sing something or just like come something, do that. And it's like, I cannot do that. That's me. Yeah. Yeah, because it's scary and like you want to be able to like do it well. Yeah. But like, yeah, like like I as we've done in school, as like we've talked about, like if you just like find those like little like warm-ups or like just like yeah, silly ways of just like getting yourself to like not think about the fact you're singing and then just train it, like it will just flow and it's so good. Like, I've I'm not sure if I talked to you before about like the invisible like line. Have I told you about like the elastic bands? You have how like comes out of your and like if I I'm like doing a move right now, but I'm like holding one this at the end of an elastic band, like right underneath my nose, and then I'm pulling it out in front of me because like that is like how I envision like the breath moving through your vocal cords, if that makes sense. And so like you need to control like the bla your breath flow through your vocal cords, and that is what helps you produce like the sound.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

And so, like the could you reach me with a c oh from here.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

What do you mean? Like do it, like a like it like what I use this for is like for finding your resonance and finding like you have to like jump onto the note and then like prolong it and like feel like you know what I mean? Like it's hard to explain. Like, I like to use imagery because it is literally just what's going on inside your so like if you can like somehow pull out like some sort of image to help you pull out that sound, like it is so much more helpful. It's like when we, you know, even just for like our warm-ups in school, when we were like, hey, like I mean we throw something to the other side, and you would do like the movement of like as in like throwing a ball, or like just like tossing the sound to the other side, is the back of the room. Like it's such a helpful that's a good way thing to do, like a belt, is it?

SPEAKER_02 18:32

If when you say something like, hey, like, huh, is it?

SPEAKER_00 18:36

When we're doing like hey, like you're trying to find that resonance, and like I did it a lot. I could do like my warmups for any sort of show is always like vocal-based because like you have to like that is like the baseline of like sorry guys to interrupt you.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

She's just the cute thing ever.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

She just got her on my canoe out on her phone, and it's so cute. I want to like make sure that I'm not talking out of my ass. I'm trying to, I think it's like, is it five? Like things. Why is this?

SPEAKER_02 19:01

You can hit a five. I can hit a what, Clary? Tell me what I can hit. Can you hit a high six? No. No, not anymore.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Wow! So C six is what I've like hit before.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

That's like the really, really That's So we want to go to middle C that's that's the black parade note. When ours! Yeah it is, it's how it is, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

So good. Okay, Chloe, tell us all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want to try and get to middle. Is C5 middle? No, no, we need to go down.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

How do I move? See, what you just hit there, that's very comfortable to me. No, is that too high?

SPEAKER_00 19:45

How do I move? Oh, there we go. It's fine, I got it, I got it. C4 is like your middle C. That that's it again, do it again. Uh your middle C. That's where like you would, and then as you go down, that's like more of the out or something.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

No, I have yeah, see, that's how I know you doing that.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

I have like uh and then that like that C is up there, and then like that's like soprano, like operatic, like so comfortably, like I would say my like top note would be like a G5, which is like obviously you got C6, which is like the crazy, ridiculous soprano-y operatic stuff. G five is where like a lot of like the music I used to sing in school, like so all the choral stuff would hit. So it would be you would like it would be like in the middle of a line of song, and you'd be like, okay, now I'm going for like that. And it would be like, like it would be so so high, so high, so crazy. Um so that's like where you So where's my highest note, Chloe B? Like, let's try and figure it out. No, I don't want to do it on camera. No, we can do it. We can do this off camera, then we can we can come back and report.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

I didn't work, yeah, that's fine. Let's be really not. Oh, we'll do like la. I can't do that. Okay. La can. Yes, you can. It's painful.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

So that's G. And then we go in la.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Can I hum it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, but yeah, it's not as high as you think it is. Why is it though? Hear me out. Yeah. Why is it when you do that on the piano and then you do it, it sounds higher than the piano.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Yeah, it's be it's because of our, like, it it's just the way it is. It's because you're hearing me do it. This is just a piano, like you're not. Guys, this is so fascinating. Uh it's not higher, it's just the same. No, it's just because I'm a human and this is a piano.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

You know what I mean? Like, I thought it was like a I genuinely thought you were gonna go, because I can sing and you can't.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I'm a human, this is a piano. And also, this is like a phone piano as well. That's honestly that's. It's like talking level, you're not, it's not as high as you think it is. Okay, this is how one doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

This is how I can do it without hitting a head voice.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

There, what is that? Do a siren. Do a keep going up to head voice. You can definitely hit these notes up here. What is that? You just did like a siren that would have that. What note did you just do? E5 is the highest one. Right, that's where I'm putting it, guys. I can do E5, I can't go any higher than E5. With a head voice. Because like comfortably, I'd say you would sit in like the C4 to like C5 register.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

So like I'm writing that down. I just got a Chloe tip. Say it again.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Yeah, well we don't, I don't know because we're not like fully. Can we take a ballpark? Singing out. We can I'd say, but then you could probably go lower. So I'd say the highest one was. This is my lowest, so I can go comfortably. Comfortably, I'd say C5 right now because we haven't explored the other other ones. And then I know you could definitely go like lower than like.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

This is the lowest I think I could go. No, there, that's too low.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

There. Yeah. What is that? Uh um E3. Could you sing an E3 though? No, no, I don't think I don't know. Like if you were like um trying to think of a song. Hello. Isn't me you're looking for Agassiria. I'd say yeah, let's do like E3 or E or F3. F3 sounds better.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Is F3 higher than E? Uh yes. Yeah, I'm I think I'm F3. Chloe, this has been absolutely insightful because I want everyone to know Chloe sang at my wedding. Right? It was one of the most epic things. Everyone was balling, everyone got involved, which we all knew they would be, and she sang one of the hardest songs to sing, in my opinion, in the whole wide world, which is You'll Never Walk Alone, right? And it was you love it, I know you love it for your own reasons. Yes, and I love it. You love it more now. The fact that stop it. I love it because you know it just incorporates everything I've ever grown up with. It's Liverpool. When I first heard it for the very first time in Anfield, I was, I think I was seven and I was like this, like my mouth wide open, staring at all these men and women singing. It was like the best thing I've ever experienced. So have Chloe at my wedding sing it was cryworthy.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

It's one of the best like moments. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

I will have to, I'm gonna send you the video of you doing it. So before this, in the lead up, Chloe and I were working together quite a lot, obviously. Oh well. And she had the audacity to come up to me and go, hey, um, now give me the two keys or the two, what was it, the C minor or G.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

What was it? It was like a it was like an E or a I can't remember the like the it was like I can't remember. It was like an E or an F, maybe. I think it was like F major. Was it a G like E flat? Um it could have been a G. I can't remember. We can look back on the text what the actual key was.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Absolutely amazing. And she came up to me and she was like, it you had something, it was two majors.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, it was two different majors.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

G major, G rings a bell, and then there was another G.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Yeah, it could be like a G and a I don't know, like an F or something. Yeah, something higher and something low.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

So she comes over and she's like, Maeve, okay, I'm gonna go downstairs, I'm gonna sing both.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

It was A major, it was an A and a G.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

A and a G and we all know. It was an A in a G. Yeah. Yeah. So she was like, I'm gonna sing in, and now I'm looking at her going, What the fuck does she mean? An A in a G? I was like, Yeah, sure. So she goes downstairs, she starts singing, and she gets oh my god, she sings, and she brings back these voice notes to me, and I'm crying. I'm crying, you send A first, so I'm crying at how high it is because it's it's sinful, how high. Yeah, it's a good thing. It's a really hard song to sing, first and foremost. It's from Carousel as well.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yeah, it's an odd one because it's like obviously like Jerry and the pacemakers like have made it like the amazing, yeah, the anthem that it is. And so, like when you're singing it in like your football stadiums and stuff, that's the version you're singing because it's so like it's the the guy's voice is so like yeah, like anthemic.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

It is that kind of like oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Um, but then it's also from the musical carousel. So like that is like a soprano, like a soprano sings that like I mean, I love like Kelly O'Hara's version and all that kind of like it's just it's such a different type of song. Yeah, so for me, then like deciding like what style to sing it in for you, like do I try and sing it more like in like the anthemic kind of way, but then that's not really me. How do I like mesh it together? So like choosing a key, because those two keys, like Jerry, Jerry is key, is in he's just C. He's in like C. C major, it's like your basic, like fine, the first key that you think of when you, you know, when you're learning to sing, it's like your C major is the like not the easy key, but it's just like the key that has no like sharp flat notes in it, so no black notes in it. It's just like your you wipe. Which makes it easier for people to sing, right? Yeah, and like to play, because it's just like you know, you haven't got to think about any of the extra notes. Um, but then obviously, like I like that's really low for me, and like it's a guy that sings it, so my register's not gonna so I had to like figure out, so that's why I wanted to make sure it was stunning, and also I was gonna sing it with a a string trio, which was like such an amazing experience.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

But it had to be very specific. I remember there being um I sent you the Lana Del Rey version. Yeah. What mother helling key is she in? Oh, she's up there, yeah. Would that if we're learning keys, do you think she's C5 or above?

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Oh she's not she's I mean, like keys and like the range wise is like is a little bit different, but like her range, she's up there because she doesn't usually sing like that, like that high. Yeah, like her like more commercially songs, like she doesn't sing that high. So she definitely was using a bit more of a like. I was operating in a way as well. Stunning. I wonder yeah, I wonder how she was how she trained. But I guess in like herself, like how what kind of voice did she like start to train with? Because it's interesting. Yeah, because her voice is so cool and it's so haunting and like high and like choral and very cool. But like, yeah, she definitely like either took it up a key or like but she sang it in a different style. And like in like that, and I love that version. I'm so glad you like sent it to me because that was such a big inspore.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Because Chloe was supposed to be doing it without the string, because I had to clear it with the string. Yeah, and I was like, hi, my friend's gonna sing during the communion. I hope you're okay with that. They were like, What's she singing? We'll happily accompany her. And I was like, I know. Oh my god. Are you about to you're about to tell me freaking out is about to sing because you weren't sure, you didn't know, and then I was like, Chloe, they're gonna do it with you, and you're like, Mother of God!

SPEAKER_00 28:04

I like dream come true. Like, I've I've sang in like churches for like all my life, like, so it's been like it was I knew I could do an a cappella version of it because like that's just like how I was like brought up. Like I, you know, sang and I've sang many like a cappella y songs and on my own and in duets and all that kind of stuff growing up, so like it wasn't like I was ready to be. But like them saying, Oh, we're happy to do it, was just such a like, are you joking? I get to sing for my best friend, but also get like a straight tweet or two, just take it was just I couldn't speak. Like, I'm still like like it was so magic.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Utterly stunning. And the best part was just before we go into we'll talk about this another episode, but like no one saw it coming. No, no one knew, only my auntie. My mother, me, and Rory and John knew what was gonna happen. So my dad, like, oh, it was amazing. Just quick, quick sign up. Oh please. Chloe and the rehearsal, maybe this is a story for another time, but in the rehearsal, you I was like, she looked at me and I was like, just sing a random song. She goes, Got it. So she sang in Welsh. Obviously, my dad's like, that is she sat down afterwards because we all knew what she was actually gonna sing, and my dad goes, More of that, please. Chloe's like wrapping the whole Welsh shit. Anyway, so then I remember turning to him and he just shut his eyes the minute you start. Because obviously you can't tell when the stream trio started, you've no idea what they're gonna do. No, so he knew that you were gonna sing, but he didn't know what, so he's just like and it started, and then it's like when you and then he just shut his eyes, and then I could just fill all of the audience with had a mixture of Liverpool fans, load of Liverpool fans, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham, all in one room, and everyone was just in absolute awe because it didn't become about Liverpool in the end, it just became about like the fact that it was like the most beautiful song like everyone. John's crying. Like he's literally crying, look at him. So it's just like we watch it back and we balled our eyes out. So thank you for being a dream. Oh my god, there was no one else.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Like that was like you made my dream come true too. Like it was such a fun and like to prep for it too. It was just so much fun, and like, yeah, and I love being a for your dad too, because like I was like obviously doing it for you too, but then like having that extra, like, oh, it's a surprise.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

I'm gonna add the photo.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

There's like a photo of like dad like hugging the living shit out of Chloe afterwards, and like it just like everyone then standing up joining. I felt like a celebrity, like it felt like a famous person. You deserve to do it. And everyone was like swimming along.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Because what you wanted and what I wanted was people to join in, but we weren't ever sure they were going to. But Chloe has that beautiful way of being like, let's let's go. You take this let's go. You literally do this, you're like, let's go. Yeah, we can we can do it.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

And then everyone was like at the end, and Zuri was there listening. Oh my god, lads. And like in a cathedral as well.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

So, like, those are good six. It was must have been so like anyone like listening outside, it must have been so like that was amazing. I can just amazing oh no.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

So you're um is there anything like you really want to delve into here, Chloe? Because I've got a lot of I've got a lot of takes about sopranos and West End and you know being a meser who envies sopranos, but also knowing that deep down I can never be a soprano.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Well let's like talk about that because like you asked about like what I want like what right now on the West End, like what do you think I could what would I want to be in? Yeah, and like honestly, one of the only one of the only I mean there's a few things, but like one of the only things that I one of the shows I think I could like maybe step into is like Into the Woods because it's a Sondheim and like I've never seen that. Oh, it's such a good show. I've seen I've heard some of the one of my favourite Sondheim. Oh yeah. Okay. Um and because Sondheim does write for like kind of everyone, and like Sondheim is very like live lyric heavy and like the rhythm of it, and like it's quite like scattery and like very like it's just all kind of so like it's all about the lyrics, all about like the like the like the pacing of it, and like it's such a a specific thing, and it takes and like especially into the woods, like there is there are roles, it's essentially based on like fairy tales. So there's yes, like Cinderella's in it, you've got Rapunzel in it, you've got like the prince, you've got all those kind of things. Um like uh the witch. Can you take me to it one day, please? Oh, yes, let's go. It's at the bridge theatre right now. Okay, we'll go. Oh, and like the staging of it looks insane. So like that would be like one of the one of the shows I can step into because it's like semi-classical, like it is like on that like more of the classical realm, but it isn't like bound to one style of singing, and I feel like West End is getting quite like into that one style, like I mentioned earlier, which is because like only like revivals really like tend to like have more of the that like older sound and like more of that variety.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Would you say like hello dolly and like charity? Sweet charity and all of those ones stay there.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Yeah, definitely more, and like um I love like my fair lady or like like things like carousel. Like Carousel came to Broadway, I think like five-ish years ago, with um Jesse Mueller and uh Joshua Henry, and like those two, oh, they're incredible. Have you ever listened to like Waitress or seen Waitress?

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Okay, I I know one of the songs in Waitress because I'm one I'm someone that I don't want to I don't want to hear it before I see it. I'm so picky about that. And it was like the one thing that didn't ruin Hamilton for me. I refuse to listen to Hamilton music until I went and saw Hamilton. Yeah. So I obviously knew the first song and then nothing else. I don't want to know anything else. No. So when I, for example, when you first hear um It's the greatest city in the world, I'm balling at that point. So there's like a beauty and not wanting to know. No, I do the same. Waitress, I heard you could do. You could do waitress, no?

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Oh, her little pingy voice. Oh, I would love it. A little pingy voice. I like ping ping. Everything's pingy, right? Like she's a baker, it's a ping. Uh no, yeah, no, I would our waitress is like my probably my favourite ever show. Can you take me? It's coming on tour with um Carrie Hope Fletcher. So we I love it. Yeah, so she's she's leading it. And like she's yeah, girl, you don't have to ask me twice. Let's go with that right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

So have you seen Devil West Prada?

SPEAKER_00 33:40

No.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

I've got thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Yeah. I know I wanna I wanna hear them. It's just quick. Because I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Um it's not my favourite.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

I struggle, I struggle with movies being made into musicals. It shouldn't have happened in my life. It's such a trend right now, and it's happening still with a lot of other things, and it really irks me because some of the stories are not are not built for that. No. There's only some that I'm like, huh, it's so so true.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

And I also I Debora West Power is one of my favourite films. So when I went and saw it, I was like this. I love Elton John. I couldn't tell you a single song I left there and remembered like there was not a song that stayed with me. You know how always the last song of a show, like um, have you ever seen everybody everybody's talking about? Love it. You leave singing the last song because they're all memorable songs. Whereas I left this and I was like, stunning costume should win for costume. Yeah. Vanessa, what's her name? Um Williams. Stunning. I love her, but but it's just copycat version, like the the words of the film have just been taken, put on stage. Like the whole, if you were gonna do it, Cerulean should have been a song. Yeah. It shouldn't have been verbatim quoted from the film. I just it should have been a song if you were smart. So I didn't like it, and I also thought absolutely all of them stunning singers. Yeah, of course. Most of them are soprano belters. Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_00 35:01

You can it's like soprano is your voice type, but then like belting is like a style of singing. Right. So this is. So like it could be like a high belt. Like she's probably belting high. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, this was this was it like very like or like that kind of like riffy, like I'm gonna move back from the microphone.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

It was like and then it kept going, uh, and then it's up here, and you cannot fucking hear a single articulate word she's saying. So now you're like, now it just sounds like she's going, Do you know what I mean? And you're like, all right, I assume she's saying.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

It's like how we do when we like are like taking the piss and we're like So me and Chloe are like, Can I can I get up? Can I get up? And like Dan is still trying to figure out what it is that we are saying.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

I remember when we first did that, that stayed. So me and Chloe literally wake up every day and we're like, Can I get up? Can I get up a stuff?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

The more like an intelligible again.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

But that's done, I think, truthfully, in taking the piss out of these things that aren't you can Would you say you can be a really strong soprano in your head voice, doing all these things, be a belt up and still articulate, or is it actually hard to articulate?

SPEAKER_00 36:07

I think it is, you have to be able to articulate because like I mean otherwise you're just hearing wailing sounds like it's impossible. I think it's hard. I don't think it's impossible. I think I my thing is you need to serve the song in the best way that you can. Right. And so, like, for example, we'll go back to Cynthia, like her doing like the battle cry at the end of Defiant Gravity is just like it's there's no lyrics, it's just like uh it's like that, and that's that's the point of it. And like she's riffing on that because it makes sense. Totally. It is her version of the battle cry. Because it's like ah, but that's why it's so powerful and so like oh yes, and like she only chooses to riff in moments where it makes sense. Like, so for example, like the other song she sings like I'm The Wicked and I the Yeah, the wheel. The wicked and I think that also, like, she's like in the in the moment in the show, like she's just discovering her power, like and using it for different reasons. So, like her then like throwing in a little belt now, like a little um riff now and again is like ooh, like she's discovering herself, that makes sense. And then like for things like um I'm not that girl, which is like the quieter song, like it's a bit more like internalized, and like she's you know just on her own and she's just like playing around. So, like she's definitely chosen exact moments to use those kind of like but extra like colourish yeah, she's colouring the like she's literally taking like a black and white photo and she's colouring it in in multicolour and it's beautiful. I think it's misused, and I think that's the issue with songs, especially in like newer shows, because people want to show off their uh their talents and they want to like be the leading person and be like, I'm singing this, and I'm like blah, and like you're already there. Yeah, you're doing it incredible. You need to like serve the text, like it's the same as acting, you have to serve the text first, and like you have to make sure you're getting the story across. So if the story is coming across by you belting and like doing all these amazing like riffs, like great, like do them. But I don't think I think it's overused essentially, and I think that's what I I mean, I haven't seen it, but that's what it sounds like to me that's what yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Oh, yeah, devil with harder. Like it sounds like they're stunning, they're flawless singers, they're there for a reason. Yeah, but like there was just certain moments I go, I've lost you. And to be fair, oh, it's gonna sound so so bad because I love the music when I saw it for the first time two years ago. Yeah, it happened in Wicked a fair bit too. Like I was stood there and the woman playing Glinda, absolutely flawless, but I'm going, What are you saying? Now that to me, Chloe, is is too high. Yeah. That to me is whatever that is, whatever technical time you call that. There was just moments where I'm going, what is she doing? And it wasn't in like popular, it was in something else. The woman's just like, it's just so high.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

It can happen, especially with yeah, if you if you're going higher in your register, it is harder to keep your like because you're obviously having so much, but also like you're trying to find that like space in your mouth as well, because like you have to like open up, especially in the back part of like do you have to just open up so like the literal gap between like your teeth and your lips coming back together is bigger. Or you had to make a T sound, God help you. Or you do have to find a way to like do like with either with your tongue or some sort of other, like it is really hard, but that is a part of your training. So like you are meant to you meant to have it. Like it's you do have to make sure that you are like serving the you have to make sure people are understanding you. It's like in school when we were learning, you know, if we are like rushing through or like mumbling. What are you saying? Yeah, what are you saying?

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Like, I maybe do maybe that is my fault as well, because I don't want to come on here and bash soprano singers being you know, being a merzo that I have.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Yeah. It's not always sopranos, it's more so like it's filters, you're right. It's sort of everything. Even like because a lot of people like in their alto range as well can like kind of go, like, bumble, you're so right. Because you can get kind of comfortable with it as well when you're down in because like if you're down in your chest voice, because so you know if you go like so if you go from top to bottom, you've got your head voice, you've got um your like so like your middle, like yeah, your middle voice, where you are resonant, the pinginess, yeah, and then you've got your chest voice. So you can you can when you move into any of these registers, like you do have to like adjust internally, you have to adjust. And like I think sometimes, like if you do have to work that little bit harder or like more just like differently to like produce that sound, like sometimes things slip. So like sometimes, yeah, like you articulating might slip if you're in like a you know, but in a chess voice that feels a bit more comfortable to you, or showing your like head voice where it's like, okay, now I'm having to reach these high notes, like your focus could shift, and so like that could that could get it's terrifying. Singing is terrifying. But like I've never like not to say I've never like had this, but I've always been someone that like is words first because of like my background in like singing in choirs and like having to make sure that all of us move as one and we have to like hit every word and be in that and also being Welsh as well, like also really helps with that because we articulate a lot of things, especially if I'm going back into my very Welsh, like I'm I'm there with my like urrz and like my t and like all of that. So like my mouth is very much trained to hit hit everything. It's like me, but not really. Yeah, but you do it when you do it when you're speaking, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

I do implosives. You won't see me. We said this the other day. I I don't I say but I say but like I don't ever hit the last T apart from in water. My mother would beat me if I say water, she'd kill me.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

But I think it's a thing I understand you though. You know what I mean? It's not about like hitting everything with like a you're not gonna ask you to do like yeah that every you know in every of course but you are still like I can still understand what you're saying. So if you were doing that accent and singing, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, and I think there's a the American most things are most songs are in American and then it's like for sure. But also we watched Harold Fry. Oh, she finally saw it. That to me is a stunning representation of it all being in different parts of like northern and um like south because they're from Devon, are they? From Devon, yeah, and then she they meet people from like Dorset as they go, and it just gradually gets that they all have different accents, yeah. And that worked. You hear all of them. I didn't I at one point I don't feel like I ever lost anything they were saying, but maybe maybe that's because it that felt it feels like a folk musical. Would you say it? Like it's folk, whereas Devil West Prada is not, it's more commercial, it's way more commercial, and I that guys, I really don't want to get it wrong. They are incredible. I have they have a gift, I could never do it. Those people are on the West End for a reason. For a reason, they deserve to be there. But there is certain times where the the me, the mave in me, just goes, I don't know what you're saying, but I can appreciate the fact that you're hitting the note that no one else can. But is it just am I in awe of the fact that you hit the note? Or is it the actor in me going, What did you just say? Yeah like why are you looking at him? What did you just say to him that you triggered that yes? Yeah, what is the reason for you going in like Maybe I'm too actory, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

No, but it's important to have a balance of it because if you have a mixture of like using the notes to propel your language, right, and that works, like that is like one of the most amazing things to watch. If someone is like honestly emoting in a way that requires them to sing in that style, then oh my god, when someone hits it right, it's like one of the best things things you've ever seen. But you're not questioning the story, you're not questioning, you're not being like, oh, she's showing off. Like you're not having like you're not pulling back, you're never pulling out of the story. Yeah, you're like in. And like, I know I said like about like oh movies shouldn't be musicals always. Um I don't believe that because like Waitress is um is a movie first and then a musical. Yeah. But I feel like some of the I feel like the more recent like days of like musical theatre are like those big, more like blockbuster, not blockbustery, but like those cult classic movies that like it is more of a moneymaker. And I think it is like it's like how Broadway, like, ugh, the amount of money is like ridiculous on and the things they like, you know, they they bring to Broadway is quite intense. And also the ticket sales are so high. Um so I think the West End are trying to do like a similar thing where they're like trialing having like you know, like um 13 Going on 30 is a musical. Like we had, I saw the time travelers. Wife. How was that? Uh again, it was incredible, but it was didn't need to be music. I just I don't remember a single song from it. Yeah. This is the And the mo like the theatre magic was incre like the way they did like the travel through time was very cool. But I don't remember a single song. Oh never would. And it's the same, like, you know, obviously like things like Moulin Rouge work, I think, because it is like a theatre show. Like the Moulin Rouge is a theatre, so it makes sense to do that. So you have to choose it. Like Back to the Future, I think, works because it is Is that a musical? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's on the West End. And like they have like the DeLorean like flying above the audience. Like it's a whole thing. So it's a spectacle. Yeah. But I think there's just too many now of that, like that same thing. Just stop. Which is why Harold Fry is big to me. Oh, such a beautifully done dealing with it.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

And people need to go and see it. And also, not this is just a complete cyber, I've got two separate things to tell you. Yes. One, Mama Mia, when that first came out when um on the film, I thought was absolutely flawless. I loved it. I also listened to Amanda and being like, she's soprano. Yes, I love it. Good luck me singing honey honey. But I was like, honey, honey, yes, so good. It's vibey. She's amazing. And like the second one didn't need to happen, but I like the second one. I like the second one all that. Um, but it's not my like nothing beats the first one also because Meryl's in it. Yeah, of course. Meryl. Yeah. Um, and also we had the privilege in Ardart to have um Carvin's Les Saint come in. He was one, he was he was Hamilton in on Broadway. I think he played. You played three of them too.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

I think at the time, but like since he's played all things.

SPEAKER_02 45:27

And he had the we had he had to he he gave us songs. We had to pick like an arrange of songs, and we picked Angelica's. Me, we both picked the same one. Satisfied. And we had to do the rap version of that. And so a lot of the girls chose that, other people chose other bits. We were very lucky, actually, because we had the most time spent on us, which was a delight. Oh, so good. So I remember getting up and being you're we were the last to go. I remember it was embedded in my head. The back of our head, we're all like, Yeah, Chloe, here she goes, the best singer of the crowd. And it was just stunning, but that's a that's not a like a oh fucking Chloe. It's like watch Chloe. So I was like, I'm going to go now. And I remember going up, doing my bit. I'm quite I consider myself quite a quick speaker. Oh yeah. So the rapping was great. And then he like stopped me. We finished, and he was like, And I was like, oh my god, he hates it. And then he went embedded. He was like, do it again. And I did it again. He was like, mmm. Yeah, you're like hitting you're hitting it all. Can you do me a favor? And I was like, yeah, he's like, can you just breathe? The last when she goes, You see it right? Yeah. Remember that, you know, that bit where she just like? Yeah, when she goes, I don't know, I can't remember what I have to remember. I can do the rap right now, but I can't remember the how it starts all this shit. But she's like, so, so, so it's a match with someone at a level, what the hell is a catch, the feeling of freedom, seeing the light, it's being pregnant with the key and the cat. You see it, right? The calculation lasts two minutes with three minutes. So that bit, he was like, Can you just say in that? You see it, right? And he was like, You see, like, breathe the last bit because he was just trying to make me more musical theatre to be like to live in the words you're saying. Because in my head, I'm like, but then I bright, and he was like, Do you see? And then I started clapping, and I was like, Yeah, yes, I see and then fuck me, listen to this. Chloe came out, stood up, and he stuck. She obviously, this guy's dealt with people who can sing, but Chloe was the one that could like you're classically trained out of the lot of us that did that section. So we're all like, we feel really good. Chloe did it, and we were like, Chloe floored the fucking room to the point where he went, I have no notes, do it again just because I want to hear it. Oh my god. And I was like, Chloe, best beyond fucking Hamilton. It was the coolest experience of my life. It was so kind as well. He was so kind. He gave all his time for that as well. And I remember I remember looking at you and being like, That bitch needs to be like in this musical. I don't know if there's a part for you, honey. No, there's not. There's really not, but that experience was enough. It was iconic because he went, I have known it. Can you just do it again? Because I think he knew you that's just something that you can sing so I don't know, it came natural to you. Whereas I'm like, and you're like, like doing it exactly the same, but like with a more musical theatre element, which I don't think I have. That's really it was stunning. And having that lives rent-free. Yeah, Clary bumps me up all the time. No, it's true. You can hum.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

You can hum to a level.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

Unexplainable. No, thanks, Bib. I love that. That oh my god, that workshop. It was iconic. It's because he started the song like a little bit before the rap. And so he was like just like, oh, wait, I'm singing, and then I was just like answering, like singing, and he was like, Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

It was so I remember closing my I can close my eyes and still see that happening. It was the coolest thing. I still have that feeling, though. It was stunning. I love Carvin's. Thanks for having me. What a day. What a day.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Yeah, but no, it's important again. Like through rap, you're still understanding every word. You know, game changer Hamilton. Yeah, oh absolutely. Well, incredible, and like there's so many more like rap-influenced musicals coming, which is so important, so cool. Um, but yeah, again, text taking the the for the foreground, like you you were driving that by like understanding the text, and you then taking a breath on that moment is like very important instead of just like showing that you can rap. You know what I mean? It's the same thing with like singing, like you you can sing, we know you can sing, you're on the West End. You don't have to show us in every moment, just feel it. Pick your battles, like pick your moments. It's like I have a question.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

Yes, you just stood up in excitement. You were born. I was born. Hi, I was, and I'm here. You were born, and there must have been a point where you were like watching Disney or some shine. Yes, and your mum gone, oh, Chloe could hold that note, surely. Because there's no how did I start like like how you must you know when you see these kids going, random kids just start singing, and you're like, damn, and they've had Chloe, they've had no training, they've just watched something on television and they naturally have this beautiful way of holding a note. I can hold a note, but not like these kids. Like they're like, like Moana, they're singing Moana, and you're like, whoa. So then it's up to the parent to be like, Do you like singing? Yeah, okay, let's take that and train. Yeah. How did yours start for the for the crowd? I get you, I get you.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

So um I think because I'm Welsh and I went to a Welsh speaking, obviously, no, because I went to a Welsh speaking school, like choirs and singing are like ingrained in you. Like I was literally performing, like one thing I haven't mentioned, but we can talk about another time is Esther Vods. So that's like the Welsh music festivals that happen in Wales, right? Can you carry me to one because every time? Oh no, we should get it. Yeah, I would love it. Um but it's Welsh language music festivals, and you do it from like four until like until you're 18. So you're always in competitions. So I was in competitions from four. My first competition I did was like a like a recit, like I did like reciting. So I did like a like a mini monologue and just like, you know, as at a four year as a four-year-old, just like being like, I'm a teapot kind of I. Um and I did that, and then I was in like mini choirs, like you know, when you're just in a kid's choir and stuff. And I remember being like in school, and like my my teacher, Mr. Ashcroft, Gavin, big part of the club. Gavin, he like brought it out of me because he in year three. He could see. Yeah, well, he came into the school. My his first year was my his first class was my class. Right. And so he is like, he's an amazing pianist, he like composes, he sings, he's an incredible, incredible musician in every way. And he wanted to bring more music to the school, to my primary school. So he was using like my class as like kind of a feeler to be like, okay, do we have any singers in this? And so he did like auditions for the one of the ASAP vods when I was in year three. And I remember like looking at um like the like the sign-up sheets, like um high school musical, but it was like just like a little sheet that said, like, do you think you want to be come to my you know class at this time and we'll run through some songs? And I remember like standing outside the door of this like classroom being like, and I can hear like my friends inside singing already, and I was like, I don't know if I can go in. Do I go in? I don't know if I can do this, but I feel like an urge to. Yeah. And it just so happened that like someone like moved, someone came out of the classroom and like Mr. Ashkoff saw me and he goes, Chloe, come on, come in. And so I sat down and like he, you know, ran through like we did like solo bits, and like from then I was like, Oh, and he must have noticed that I had like some sort of tone. And he then like kind of took me under his wing, and like we I from that point was a singer, like I became more confident in it. Absolutely incredible. And yeah, so it was like very much because of my teachers, but also yeah, being at home, like you said, like Disney stuff. Just singing. I used to like watch like Beauty and the Beast, and like specifically the cr the Christmas episode, and I used to take a song from there, and then I would go like outside of my living room to like where my staircase was, and I would sit on my stairs and I would like sing it to myself and try and learn it. Um, and then like just repeat it and repeat it, and then I'd go back in and then like sing it to the to the video and then take it to myself. And like, yeah, me and my like friends growing up would do like you know the classic shows on our like Did you do High School Musical? Because that changed my life. High School Musical, but I was who was I? Can't guess as to who I was. Wait. You Chapay, girl? Of course it was. Yeah, I'm gonna say why are you questioning? I thought I was like, yeah, we're gonna, that, that. Oh, absolutely. That pinginess come in my bag, girl. Get out of my face. Everyone's gonna be like, Mave is so pingy today. Oh my god. I think high school musical would have had a hand in like helping everyone have a sing. I know what I mean. Like, the sing-along version DVD, Chloe.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

Yes, it did. I think you're absolutely right. I think there's the right thing has to come out for kids to be like, go sing. Yeah, go on, just do it. I can do this because it, you know, it is, I do think everyone can. And if you can't sing Sharp A's, you can sing Troys. You can sing anything you want. It could be Kelsey in them for a moment. Can we, before we like go? Yes, our receptacles. I this is how quick I want to be because I like I love this so much. I brought in my Stanley. What did you know? You have to talk about yourself.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Oh yeah, mine's just mine's one of the Estes. So I talk about the Esther by the Music Festival. This is one of the little cups that they give out for free, and where you have your pint in, because you can drink it. A little tiny half pint. So it's like it's got Esther Vadone, it's a little half pint cup, and it's got like the different bars that are in the Esther Vadone, and little like yeah, depictions of that. So very important.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

Mine's Stanley, absolutely iconic. I think you guys have seen it before, but I want to do this. Every every New Year's. No, I don't know what's happened. I don't know why. Oh my god, yes, but we have to do it as we're rounding out. If any of you are still fucking listening at this point, please stay tuned. If all of you have watched Gavin and Stacey, you all need to know that Chloe and I love the bit where Nessa and Brynn are in the booth of the arcade and they start singing, um, oh mother of God, what is the name of that song?

SPEAKER_00 54:19

I know I stand in line. Um, it's uh something stupid like Galo. Saying something stupid, saying something stupid, right?

SPEAKER_02 54:26

So me and Chloe, verbatim, try to do now. Chloe could do it with our eyes closed. The problem is I can't harmonise for shit. So I end up doing Chloe's note. So what we're gonna do for both of you now is we're gonna do it like in a Welsh way, like Bryn and Nessa do. Who am I? Ness.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Well, it depends on which So are you taking the harmony or are you taking the melody?

SPEAKER_02 54:46

Who does the melody? Brynn. Uh, yeah. Uh I think I'm who starts off? Uh we start together. No, I stand in line in the line. You do that part.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Okay, hold on. No, I stand. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

You put that. I swear to you, at the end of every episode from here on out, we're going to get this right. We're gonna have to have to practice.

SPEAKER_00 55:06

We haven't done this in months, though, because we did it at Ali Pali, but we spent a whole New Year's Eve practicing this. But it felt right. It did feel right.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

Okay, so I'm gonna try I'm gonna put my Welsh accent on as well, because it has to be and dig it up. It doesn't have to be perfect. No.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Am I that low? No, I think we sat on the same. Remember we sat on the same note, it goes, uh No. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Uh no one stand in line until you think you have the time to spend an evening with me. Evening with me. And if we go someplace to dance, I know that there's a chance you won't be leaving with me. And afterwards we jump into a quiet little place and have a drink or two.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

Can't fucking do it. And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like, I love you. I'm already on your fucking yeah! No, we didn't. We did, we held the line every fucking time we didn't.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

If you listen, Chloe sat there and going, no, maybe Ness goes. To be fair, yeah, she goes into some weird fucking keys, doesn't she?

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Yeah, she does. There is the harmony is odd in this one. She's like, Which is why I was like, maybe you could do the melody, but then we end up just ending up on the scene. Yeah, because it's because I go to Chloe.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Whatever Chloe does, I go to. So if I was to do Bridwell, hang on this.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

Um I'll do melody. Okay, I can't do it, I can't do it because I end up going to Chloe's.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

Uh no one stand in line until you think you have the time to spend an evening with me. Evening with me.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

That's so funny. Because Chloe put her hands to her head like this. And if we go someplace at the time. I'd be like, where are we? We're doing this on the next one. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, no, we have to practice. We'll get better, we'll get better. Thank you so much for listening as usual.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

Chloe, thank you for your time. That was gorgeous. Thank you for my time. We have to do another one about singing. I want to hear all about it. Yeah, we can talk more.

SPEAKER_00 57:05

We could talk, um, it'll come up. It'll come up. It will. Um it's a big part of both of our lives because we're gonna be practicing.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Very, very much. But we love you and we love this. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Bye.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Maybe I should be brain.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Maybe you should. Maybe I am Brady. Maybe just do the do the one more time. One more time. You do the melody. Uh Can you tell me what I have to do? Sorry? I know I stand in line. You start stay on the same note. Uh no, I stand in line until you think. Okay, ready? Let's just give it a give it a go. Ready?

SPEAKER_01 57:43

Transatlantic. I turn this off. I turned this off. Oh, you turn it off.

SPEAKER_00 57:51

Uh no, I stand in line until you think you have the time to spend an evening with me. Evening with me. And if we go someplace to dance, I know that there's a chance you won't be leaving with me. This is great. And afterwards we drop into a quiet little place and have a drink or two. I'm on yours. It's okay. And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid, like I love you. But like I love you. The beginning was spoiling. Welcome to the trans. No, wait, and then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid. Like then I go and spoil it all by saying welcome to the transatlantic takes. Atlantic takes. Why do I cry every fucking You did it so well though? You did it so well. Why do I? I think this is the this is the way we did it.