Ep. 6

Jose wants to know the difference between dresses and feathers while Luis brings up Religion. Carlos and Tony get annoyed and Josh believes in the paranormal. That and many more on the Wire!

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:04

Well Louie got a confession. I have a confession.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

And it's not pause and say anything.

SPEAKER_05 0:10

Wait, wait, is it in regards to pause? Do you guys recall when we were trying to figure out that that noise, the interference? Yes, yes. I already figured out what it is. This bad boy. That's what you said it was. Yeah, yes. You said that it was. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So see how we're going directly over there. Okay. Um, so remember I unplugged it? Yeah. And it shut everything out? Yeah. Guess what happened? You lost the I lost everything.

SPEAKER_06 0:37

Not my midway. I did. I did.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

I'm not lying. No. What did I say was gonna happen, right? He's gonna delete this shit.

SPEAKER_05 0:45

No, no, I didn't delete it. I I accidentally I just, you know. Deleted it? You know, it's uh uh I unplugged it and when Josh, when Josh remember the previous episode, he said, Hey, do you never listen, right? And I'm like, partially no, because I'm running all this stuff. That's why. You're supposed you're supposed to listen no matter what. I'm the producer. Bullshit. I'm not the I'm not the listener.

SPEAKER_06 1:13

So I'm editing, I'm editing, he ain't fucking doing shit. Hey, I was man.

SPEAKER_04 1:19

I was to go edit you starting to sound like somebody I know. Hey, they they tell me it's a volunteer for the secretary, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:28

It's just you just gotta do this here and and man, it's a full-time job, man. Oh, okay. What the heck did I sign up for? What does that have to do with you pulling the wire and deleting everything? Well, yeah, that that that was a that was I dropped the ball on that one, man. I definitely dropped the ball on that one. Damn, pull the Trent Delphi. There is, man. There is it don't matter. You know what? We were just talking about this and we thought it sucked either way. Yeah. There is 38 minutes. 38 minutes of it, and it it really it really sucks.

SPEAKER_08 1:59

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 2:00

So I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_08 2:02

Did you at least get the snoring part out of the way? We were looking at each other, I was like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_05 2:06

It was pretty much me and Jose debating over.

SPEAKER_08 2:09

Who's more Mexican again? No, no, it was well no yeah, he output.

SPEAKER_07 2:14

It is what it is. When was this one? The last, not this last one, but the one time before?

SPEAKER_05 2:17

The one you you ghost us, JJ. The one you keep on messing.

SPEAKER_07 2:21

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:21

Yeah, the one you made.

SPEAKER_07 2:22

Talking about Taco Bell? Nah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Last uh last Sunday.

SPEAKER_05 2:26

Yeah, last Sunday. Yeah. Last Sunday.

SPEAKER_07 2:29

Oh, okay. Well, that's why this time Lou said, we could work around your schedule. Okay, I'm off on Friday.

SPEAKER_05 2:35

We did. Oh, so that's why we're here? Yeah. That's why we're here.

SPEAKER_07 2:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:39

You know what? You should start off the show since we all made the sacrifice here.

SPEAKER_07 2:42

Sacrifice of what? We're all here. You didn't make no sacrifice. Nobody told you to be here if you didn't want to be here. It's Good Friday, right? No. No. It's not Good Friday. No. Dude, it's like in two weeks. Yeah, it's April 3rd.

SPEAKER_05 2:55

Friday. It's just a Friday. It's like the third person who tells me I'm Catholic, I don't eat meat. You don't eat. You don't eat meat on Friday. I'm Catholic. During Lent. During Lent? During Lent. Well, you're used to eating a lot of meat. I do not eat a lot of meat. Just glizzy.

SPEAKER_08 3:13

You see, mind you, I did not say anything.

SPEAKER_05 3:16

You see, you see, I told you it's inevitable. I'm surprised you got us there. So go ahead. Start us off. You set the tone. Let's put them on the spot.

SPEAKER_07 3:25

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, Josh. Welcome to Why Mama Wire on this beautiful Friday evening. Not Friday. Not Good Friday yet. No, it's not Good Friday, but we have Lou, Tony, Carlos, and Jose here. Yep. Let's get wired. Let's get wired. That's it. Go ahead. Keep going. Keep going. This has been good. I do have a question for you guys. I want you guys to see. I want you guys to answer because all you guys are somewhat married. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 3:58

What do you mean somewhat married? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who's marrying, who's not married. Stop it there. Um the the the more you stay in front like this, the less time editing. Lean back. Lean back. Relax. Relax your throat. Relax. That's perfect. Perfect. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Perfect.

SPEAKER_05 4:19

Man, you always be over there. He's gotta take care of his hose. I know, right? Again. And he gave them to the engineer, the producer, the recorder. Whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_09 4:30

Fluffer.

SPEAKER_05 4:31

I adjust the mic. Apparently Jose likes it because I keep adjusting his and nobody else.

SPEAKER_09 4:44

La caga, not a fluffer. Tony, do anything to you.

SPEAKER_05 4:50

No, no, Tony. Take take a picture of that so that people have a reference how the mic looks. Oh boy. Mr. Media Man. I thought this was recording. It is recording. That's Jose.

SPEAKER_08 5:00

No, it's just bullshitting you, man. He's recording.

SPEAKER_06 5:03

That's what Jose does during the free time, Tony.

SPEAKER_08 5:05

Look, Tony.

SPEAKER_04 5:07

I'm not, I can't even flex that much money. Right. Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 5:14

All right. All right, go ahead. All right, Josh. So you said you got a question. Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_07 5:20

You guys all know Dak Prescott sit there and called off his wedding, right? No. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 5:25

Now we're gonna talk about Dex Brackets.

SPEAKER_07 5:27

No, no. I just want to know. It's not about him. It's just he had his girlfriend, he put a prenup out there and she didn't want to sign it. Now, would you guys do the same? Put a prenup out to especially if you guys are just signed a $240 million contract.

SPEAKER_05 5:44

He has to go out there and protect his money.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Yeah, I I'm agree. Like the Because they're millionaires, and that's different than us regular people. It is way different.

SPEAKER_08 5:54

Yeah, he's gotta protect himself.

SPEAKER_07 5:55

Yeah, because I know they were saying that if they do get married and they get divorced within a year or whatever, she gets half automatically. That was like 240 that he was gonna she was gonna get automatically. Yeah, that's the reason why he called off the wedding.

SPEAKER_05 6:08

Yeah, so that would be more a question to someone who's not married. I just answered it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:16

Would you guys have done that before if you guys were like all I would say yes, because you really have to be careful.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

Once you have that amount of money, they they're attracted to your money, not you as a person. You have to protect yourself. You really have to protect yourself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:29

Which I don't I don't blame them at all. You know, calling it off, because she didn't want to sign it.

SPEAKER_05 6:34

Now, if it was someone that uh they had a built a relationship in they're only together three years.

SPEAKER_08 6:40

Yeah, it's completely okay. So so it's completely different if you got married and then you grew your wealth together, right? She may or may not have any money coming into this, and he has to look at it as investment. Well, not really an investment, but it it's a business transaction for him because he it's very it's gonna be very transactional because if she decides to leave half of uh whatever he's worked for is gone.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

It's like Eddie Murphy said on that um her his uh comedy show. He said uh 50 or she I want fifty Eddie or whatever is the he's like he was like I want fifty Eddie. So same thing with him.

SPEAKER_07 7:22

He's like, I want 50%, buddy, gone. But it's true, you know, like Tony said, if you guys build it together, then yeah, it's okay. Absolutely. But if you already have it and she's coming along the It works the other way too.

SPEAKER_08 7:34

So if she had all the money, yeah, like in the case of Travis Kelsey, he better sign, you know, when you know they when they're collectively worth $2.6 billion and 2.6 is only his? Yeah. Yeah, that's uh pretty much, yeah. Yeah, she's gonna it's she's gonna be. She's gonna have a prenup for him. She's got to. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:52

Absolutely, yeah. Another prime example is Tom Brady and Giselle. But but Giselle was there for a while with him. But she was already worth more than him. Yeah. So um but yeah, so it works both ways. I think it would be hard to find your significant other having that amount amount of money, I think. Oh yeah. It's hard. It's hard. So uh to answer your question, I probably wouldn't even get married.

SPEAKER_07 8:15

Well, just like he did, he didn't want to get married.

SPEAKER_05 8:17

He's like, nope, he called it off.

SPEAKER_07 8:18

I think it was it his wedding's next month, actually. It was supposed to be next month. Yeah. And he called it off. Was yeah, was so and in Italy too. Now, if you have kids involved, then yeah.

SPEAKER_08 8:31

You got two girls. I mean, well, it doesn't make a difference. The kids still get money. She just doesn't get any money.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Which is dumb. Like, yo, dude, just who cares? You're still gonna be with him, she's still gonna be paying all the bills. Now you're you're losing out, you're in your golden goose, yeah, laying the golden egg, even though he sucks.

SPEAKER_05 8:49

Which it tells you in itself that she's not really in there for him. I don't I don't think he I don't think he heard that part. That doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, man. He's he's he's set. Now he has more money. Carlos, what do you think? What do I think? I think it's something that they have to do when you have that amount of money. To protect both parties, right? It's just not one-sided.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah, I mean, I'm the president, I gotta do the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 9:18

I mean gotta sign NDAs or they could have they could have got married earlier. I mean how long have they been together? Like three months? Three years. Three years? They've been together for three years. So when did he get the contract?

SPEAKER_07 9:33

He about four years ago. So is that the first contract about four or five years ago? You're talking about the big contract? This is the recent one. This is the recent one. He's got 240 million new. Two years ago.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

Two years, I believe. The big contract he got it two years ago. How are the girls?

SPEAKER_05 9:48

They're still little. They're two within a few months. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Something like that. So two. I mean she might have she might have some leverage. She don't have no.

SPEAKER_07 10:04

They're your kids, you gotta pay it. Yeah, yeah. She can't, she's not gonna get no no alimony, no spousal.

SPEAKER_05 10:11

Wait, what what I mean leverage is like stuff that he owns, not actually his actual money, but but uh uh what do you call it? Uh assets. No, no. Not if they're not married. Yeah, they're not married, she don't get none of it.

SPEAKER_08 10:24

To me, it's like it's a little bit of a fascinating topic, but I don't care about like the Alice Cowboys or desk tracker.

SPEAKER_07 10:33

Okay, it doesn't matter who the hell it is if it's a cowboy. It's just a cowboys or a book, and you're just the whole point itself.

SPEAKER_08 10:38

Yeah, there's there's something to it that you have to protect yourself. Yeah. Um and it's it's hard, and it is it is a very delicate thing that you want to kind of work around. And do you you know, you always wonder, is this person with me or is this person with my money?

SPEAKER_05 11:00

Here's how I would think about it. Just think about that pressed cut being your your son. Would you want him to do the preenup? Yes. Yeah, yeah, I would. Yes, that'd be good. Especially if he's a millionaire.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

If he was just a regular kid living down there, go live your life, kid.

SPEAKER_07 11:18

He was an average Joe, yeah. No, but prenup. Yeah, that's a great point. And build together.

SPEAKER_04 11:24

But yeah, but it's you know, I I just that's why us, we don't have to worry about prenups because nobody hears. We're all broke. Yeah, we're all broke. Regular prenups. Or the average broke Joe.

SPEAKER_08 11:35

So if you want to uh support our page and uh our show, subscribe to uh every month, 995. And he takes credit cards. Um yes, yes he does. Tony takes credit cards. Catlose takes credit cards.

SPEAKER_05 11:50

No, yeah, there's there's proof that you're taking the cards.

SPEAKER_08 11:53

I do not remember anything like that.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

We actually do have proof. Um Tony's taking the cards. Are those uh is that proof? Um you're the one swiping them in the social media. Well, you would know.

SPEAKER_08 12:06

You would know because you're not swiper. Is it Tony? Listen, there's things that are never make it to that page.

SPEAKER_05 12:12

One of them It's gonna make it to the page. Let me let me let me go. Let me go, Jose. Answer the damn question.

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Well, you can't do that because you deleted that.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

Speaking of uh getting close to cheeks.

SPEAKER_08 12:27

We're talking about Huh? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 12:31

Louis, he's close to your ass shaking the picture.

SPEAKER_08 12:34

Uh yeah. And I did ask that. I asked a very poignant question is what's your fascination with my rear end?

SPEAKER_04 12:43

Oh, it's because you're the one that said that you take cards. What picture are you guys talking about? Oh, you don't want to know.

SPEAKER_07 12:54

That's what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_08 12:57

Uh all right. We have another group that we insult each other even a whole lot more than Tony. Shut up. You don't want to get shut up. No, you're not listening you don't get them because it's usually it is just kind of now you're gonna have a lot of explanations.

SPEAKER_07 13:20

But then if I'm supposed to get offended by it, remember, I drive all day long. So when you guys pop up, I'm like, what the hell? All I do is just start laughing. That's why I'm not gonna act the last time I was laughing away.

SPEAKER_08 13:31

Dude, you show them the fucking picture. Show him the damn picture and you see what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 13:39

I'm not gonna represent you no more, Tony.

SPEAKER_07 13:50

Let's see. Where is it? I have I he's got a lawyer over here telling me to shut that up.

SPEAKER_08 13:55

Listen, I had to uh I have to delete some of those photos because people use my phone.

SPEAKER_07 14:00

Well, that's the thing. Nobody uses my phone. My wife will grab it and get something else, but we'll go with another technical.

SPEAKER_05 14:05

My kids will grab my phone. So yeah, that one picture we could not, we had a delete as soon as we opened it.

SPEAKER_08 14:12

Yeah, like delete. That went off. I got that one.

SPEAKER_05 14:17

Yes. Oh, so you're part of the group set.

SPEAKER_07 14:19

I did get that one, and I looked at it. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? My wife saw that one because I was looking at it. She was like, I thought. Is that Tony and Lou? I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 14:30

You're just not making the joke. Wait, wait, wait, wait, no. Time out.

SPEAKER_05 14:35

He just said he didn't have Tony. You just said nobody has access to your phone. No.

SPEAKER_07 14:39

I was looking through it, and my wife passed by and saw the picture and goes, Is that Luke Tony? That is yes.

SPEAKER_05 14:46

That is technically access to your phone.

SPEAKER_07 14:48

Nope, no.

SPEAKER_06 14:50

No, um access to my phone.

SPEAKER_05 14:52

You guys think I'm overanalytical? No, you guys leave me there.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

No, that that photo that you said, it's similar to that one, but it's a different color of shirt they had on, and they were doing something else. Oh, the other one? Oh, yeah. That one's the original ones.

SPEAKER_08 15:08

That one was nasty.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

I was like that was way too far.

SPEAKER_08 15:15

Yeah, I was like, yeah, you know when I asked that question, I said, maybe I've gone too far. Maybe you should ask yourself that question every once in a while.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

The sky is the limit, guys.

SPEAKER_04 15:25

The sky's the limit. No.

SPEAKER_06 15:27

No, the the sky's not the limit. I think we're far beyond the far, far far away.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

That's uh way beyond that point. It was just a different, it was uh it was worse, a different item.

SPEAKER_08 15:39

It was a lot worse.

SPEAKER_05 15:41

A lot bigger.

SPEAKER_07 15:45

Everybody needs this. But my kids don't see it, so I don't care. My kids don't get it.

SPEAKER_08 15:50

No, that's well, my wife uh left her phone at uh at home when we were we were going somewhere, so she was trying to use my phone yesterday to make phone calls for business transactions. So I'm like, I gotta delete everything.

SPEAKER_07 16:03

Wait, wait, wait, what are you doing? Trying to delete it, trying to delete every goddamn thing I've done.

SPEAKER_08 16:10

So it was just one of those things like, oh man.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

Yeah, I have to be careful with mine.

SPEAKER_08 16:14

I have to be very careful, and not because I'm I care about it, I just don't want her to think less of me.

SPEAKER_05 16:22

It's hard, yeah. Yeah, I I know exactly what you're talking about. It's hard to explain.

SPEAKER_07 16:28

Yeah, it's really hard to explain. It's complicated. Not me. I just sit there and she's like, what's going on? Like, they're gay. That's all. She's like, oh, I know.

SPEAKER_05 16:37

Who's gay?

SPEAKER_07 16:37

Who's gay? I don't know. Pictures you gotta be showing.

SPEAKER_05 16:40

Everybody's pointing at each other. Who's gay? It's Jose. I think it's Jose. Face that runs the place.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

That's what they say, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:53

How how much is this is gonna make the show?

SPEAKER_08 16:55

So far, so far. No, maybe like six seconds. Yeah, the Prescott stuff.

SPEAKER_07 17:00

Just the Prescott stuff is gonna come out.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

So let's get on to it with uh the main thing that happened this weekend. It's uh your boy, your uh uh Cali Moe over there. Oh, talking about the big news. I see, I see. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Well, let's let's go let's go through the news real quick.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

A little Chavez uh Junior over there. First of all, in front of me. Yeah, first of all, what are you not the boxer? Yeah, let's clarify. That guy was born in Mexico, the boxer. This one was born in California. Right, right. Which we should we should have the individual that lived in California the most talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 17:37

Alright, Carlos, your thoughts on Julius Archaves? This guy over there. Oh, yeah, Tony, Tony, that's right. What are your initial thoughts, uh Julius Archave, man? Not the boxer.

SPEAKER_08 17:47

I didn't really pay attention. So I've been wrapped up in my own things.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Well, okay, so what are your thoughts of the individual?

SPEAKER_05 17:54

What what is your perspective? A farm worker guy? Yeah, farmworker guy.

SPEAKER_08 17:59

Yeah, that was a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_05 18:00

Alright, there we go. Okay. Carlos? Um initially, as a little kid growing up, um what well what they what they tell you, you know, you helped uh unionize the farm workers. Right. Um but as I started getting older recently within like the next the last probably five years, yeah, is when I started like, whoa. He wasn't a good person. Yeah. He was like, this dude's a fucking asshole. Yeah, he was, man. Ain't a racist. Yeah, I'd say that. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck? You get your own people? Yep. I was like, yeah, nah. South New Mexican.

SPEAKER_07 18:41

Your thoughts? What is that? What do you say? I didn't grow up listening to him or hearing about him. I grew up eating arroz and gandulas and yuca. And so to me, don't matter to him. Don't matter to me.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

Yeah, well, I I I had a really similar perspective as Carlos.

SPEAKER_07 18:58

Um just which is he was a farm worker and he did a lot of stuff for the brown people.

SPEAKER_05 19:04

Being associated with RC May often, you know, his name would come up often. And Dolores too, the the one lady who uh worked with him. Yeah. So she obviously just recently came out. Was it a memoir? I don't know. I don't think she came out in an interview. Yeah, she said she freaked out. That uh uh yeah, she was uh essayed. Basically violated by Cesar Chavez, and apparently it wasn't she had two kids? Yep. Yep, so yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:34

Was he was he there to protect himself like like me? No, right? What do you mean protect yourself like you? Well, every time I you guys talk shit about me, you never hear.

SPEAKER_08 19:43

Oh, we we were okay. I was like, I couldn't follow that one. I was like, what the hell? What are we talking about? And it's and it we were like uh I couldn't cut wait, do you want to be dead?

SPEAKER_04 20:00

What the fuck? That's what I came through through my mind. I'm like, what? No, um I couldn't follow it honestly. I mean, you can't if he's not here, he's not here. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_05 20:10

I mean, it is if it really videos do exist.

SPEAKER_07 20:13

Yeah, the that, yeah, but possibly the videos are probably like you did, edited out so they won't so it could look good. No, no, no, actually, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

Have you ever heard this is this is ever heard of the term wetback? He would use it all. Okay, he basically coined created with the wet lines. Yeah, so what it is, I which I think and he created his own ice, yeah, pretty much. Which I think the source of our own people going against our own people is through the educational system.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

It was these calamos over here.

SPEAKER_05 20:47

That's exactly what I think. Mexico is what I see. What I've been saying. Yeah, and that's what it is. And right now, the most prominent uh um or evidence that we have now, which I would say is in Texas.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

That's why I want to see Bronco 956 and Texas Mo. Go at it.

SPEAKER_05 21:05

Oh, yeah, that would be nice. That would be nice. That would be great.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Mexico versus Texas Mo.

SPEAKER_05 21:10

I though I did see an interview with uh Rock and Roll James. Yeah. Where uh he actually speaks out. Bronco 956 speaks out against ICE. Uh-huh. So it gets a little awkward. Look it up, man. If I if I find the uh interview, I'll send it to you.

SPEAKER_04 21:27

But back to that guy, back to the crazy point.

SPEAKER_05 21:30

Well, yeah, that's pretty much it. I mean, what kind of proof do you want than them two kids?

SPEAKER_04 21:34

Yeah, I don't think you need any other proof like uh come on, guys. Like uh they're yours, and it's kind of like well now DNA is and it's not just one. Yeah, it's not one, it's multiple. Like multiple people. And then and then you could always do the math. Subtract how old are your kids? How old are you?

SPEAKER_08 21:50

Uh yeah, okay. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, I I read a blurb that one girl was like 13 years old.

SPEAKER_05 21:57

Yeah, so that that's fucked up. That that is that is hard to justify.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

I mean that's gonna be hard for the uh what is it, Mexican American people, you know, taking one for the team, but hey move on. You guys could find somebody else better than that.

SPEAKER_05 22:11

What well did you see what she said though? She was like why they they asked her why she didn't say anything during the thing.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Because she didn't wanna, you know, she wanted these people to believe in somebody.

SPEAKER_05 22:24

Yeah, you know. That that and not just sad. I think it's and it's still somewhat prominent in our culture, is where especially and I hate to say it, and I'm first of all, I'm Catholic. Um a practicing Catholic. It is really prominent in the Catholic Church that you just don't say anything. I don't know. I don't know about this. That's these two guys. That's a question. Actually, three guys. It's part of our culture that if your uncle molests you, you confess, you don't say that to the authorities. No shit. No. Hold on. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

No, that's not that's not that's not a no no no no that ain't a Catholic thing.

SPEAKER_05 23:00

That's what the church says usually. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Priest keep doing it. That's hold up. That is that is not a policy, it's a culture thing, is what I'm trying to tell you.

SPEAKER_07 23:09

Hold on, but it's not a Catholic thing. It's not a Catholic Catholic thing. It's a it's a it's a it's a moral thing, man. It is a moral thing.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

At the bottom of the thing, it's a moral thing, but it's it's a it's a cultural thing, yeah, within our culture. Yes, it is. It is, and it and it just let's let's separate religion are suppressed and culture. Wait, wait, wait. It's hard, so you're not gonna be able to. You won't be able to.

SPEAKER_07 23:37

Do this, Lou. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, you're like you say, you are practicing Catholic. I don't know how you practice it, you're supposed to be it or not. Yeah. And something happens to your daughter. Yep. You're so you're telling me that your daughter could go to church, confess on what happened, but not say nothing to you.

SPEAKER_05 23:54

You're you're missing the point. First of all, no, no, no, no. First of all, my daughter's not going to confess nothing with the pre uh uh. She's gonna confess to you. I'm not saying the I don't believe in that.

SPEAKER_07 24:03

Okay, but I'm just talking about practices. Yeah, yeah, I do think I do go to church.

SPEAKER_05 24:08

I have not nothing against the church. I think in order for the church to progress, it's for people like I won't say myself, but open-minded people to stay in the church in order to progress. Otherwise, it's too way too conservative. So you're saying that this lady didn't say anything because of church? Part of it, yes, because the church implements the rights of women are second-hand citizens. I think that was drilled into our the Mexican culture. And if you didn't you didn't believe that, you were basically exiled.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

I think it was more like she didn't want to say anything because she was afraid of the outlet.

SPEAKER_05 24:48

How many, how many um in our culture, how many uh girls get molested by people?

SPEAKER_02 24:54

But it's just not our culture, it's it's every culture.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

You saw uh uh absolutely because you look for for African Americans you have uh Bill Cosby, for example. Him too, he was old and stuff like that. You had um Epstein now, if you want to bring him up. No, no, no, absolutely. You have somebody in every culture, man. So it's not uh it's not a culture thing, it's just that women, when they get abused like that, they just don't say anything because they're afraid. Well, let's say, they're afraid that when they get accused and called liars. I guess I guess I should have rephrased that. And especially, especially when it comes to a very uh popular individual that's politically tied and has power. I would rephrase that. When I mean by power, I mean like money. Even though we could say he didn't have money, then the fucker had money. Yeah, he had money. He could ruin people's money. Absolutely. And he could he could have ruined that lady's life like back then. It's better off that she said what she had to say now.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

I would arguably say that she he did um he ruined a lot of people's life. Yeah, yeah, he did. And let me rephrase the the what what I just said. Um I'm not sp well the reason I get I'm Catholic, that's the only thing I know. But that is my point. I think a woman who's more inclined to be religious has less rights. If they detach themselves from any kind of religion, the chances are higher for them to speak up for themselves.

SPEAKER_07 26:27

No, it's the way you're raised. Yes. Well, yes, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

Well, okay, and then it goes back again, like with my with my daughters, um, I don't force any religion on them at all. I'm a practicing Catholic, right? I'll let them make their own determination later on. Yeah. So so yeah, it begins with me.

SPEAKER_07 26:46

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_05 26:47

But they're but the majority uh of in our in our era or generation, you didn't have a choice. You didn't choose to believe in a Catholic church, you're inherited. That's a whole different born into it. Yeah, they're two they're two different things. I exactly you never you never chose to be well in my case, I never chose to be Catholic. I'll I inherited that. Honestly, and to a certain age, then you could start picking. Absolutely, but by that time, by that time, your mind's already rehearsed that over and over and over. And again, uh I'm a I'm a practicing Catholic, I know my rosaries, I done my first communion, I got married at the Catholic Church. We still go to church.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

I know that in my situation, in Carl's situation, we didn't really go to church that much when we were younger. Likewise. Because our parents were just fucking working the whole time on Sunday, Monday through Sunday. Like pop, pop, pop.

SPEAKER_05 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Um, even like I said, we didn't we didn't really go that much.

SPEAKER_08 27:42

I made a choice to join because before my parents, my mom would just send me to it's like, oh, there's a Sunday school, there's a bus, you're going on that one. So I've been I I've been baptized like seven times and uh been uh been delivered a couple times.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Yeah, delivered from where you're only supposed to be baptized.

SPEAKER_08 28:00

I know. I was baptized by the Jehovah's Witnesses. I was b yeah, I was baptized.

SPEAKER_05 28:07

You know how I learned how to um read Spanish to the Jehovah's Witnesses? Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 28:13

Yeah, they taught us how to see in in that and um that's a I I I did tell him what I did. Did I sign him up to get visited? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Oh yeah, those people show up.

SPEAKER_07 28:25

I never opened the book. But see, he put a time there. I'm never at the house at that time. Doesn't matter what it is. I don't know. You said well now we know they can come knock at the door all they want. They'll come see my cat at the window, that's about it.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

Send us the ring uh video. But um to me it's a little bit of everything, but I I mean less the church, um more of the bringing up in the culture as far as not knowing that that is wrong. As far as like it's not normal.

SPEAKER_08 29:01

Yeah, even within cultures, there are the small cultures, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:06

So they think it's normal and it's not it's not normal, but you also but you also teach your kids that is not normal for this.

SPEAKER_07 29:13

This is if you got something to say, come to me. Don't tell anybody else, you come to me, tell me. Doesn't matter who it is or what happened. I don't care if it's your uncle, your you know, your grandfather, whoever it is, you come and tell me, and then I'll figure it out from there.

SPEAKER_05 29:29

Yeah, but I think back then it wasn't like that, and then it was and it was where they can tell their mom and because of whatever situation may be, they were like they'll feel embarrassed.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

Not embarrassed, but ashamed.

SPEAKER_05 29:44

Ashamed that's right, and then you brought shame to the family. They can't no, not that, but they can't like okay, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna take my girl and move out, and I don't work. And again, we go back to the women. They have no they they were so suppressed. But it doesn't just happen, they didn't have much of a choice.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

But again, the the thing doesn't just happen to women, like you said. If you want to go to the church thing, that was happening to young boys. Uh well, if if you want to go with church, it was mostly happening to young girls.

SPEAKER_05 30:15

I don't think there shouldn't be no difference between a girl and a boy. It's a child. No, but I'm just saying that that was happening mostly to And how many times have the church been accountable? They just remove them. It's zero to none. And that's the sad part.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

You know, and because again, what they have what?

SPEAKER_05 30:32

They have the power to acquire uh too much power. They have power, the same thing happened with that guy. And and again, this is why I I emphasize that I am Catholic, but I'm not ashamed to call my own faith out. I'm not a fanboy. And I used to refer myself, I'm a recovering Catholic, because I have a lot of religious trauma, and that's where that stands from. But I I'm not boycotting the church.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

No, no. What was your trauma? What are you trying to say?

SPEAKER_05 31:01

It's it's a lot of it's a lot of trauma. Um and I I can elaborate a little bit. Uh no, I was never violated. I think he was the altar boy being violated. No, I was never I was never violated, and I don't always set on no one, uh, especially a child. You just didn't kid. But uh, okay, let me give you a prime example. Um and Josh, I think you would agree with me. Childhood trauma, right? There's a lot of it, and it comes in many forms, right?

SPEAKER_07 31:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

Right off the bat, if the church tells you that the world is gonna end, that it's it ended in fire and flood before, if that's not childhood trauma, I don't know what it is. That's hyperbole, man. No, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. This is where it gets us. This is become a that see, that's the exceptions that I will not let go. This guy? No. He's one of them. Okay, hold on. That's a great point. Hold on. Evil man. Let him explain, let him explain. You're referring to the Old Testament, right?

SPEAKER_08 31:59

I'm just referring to the whole thing. In general, I just think it's most of it is hyperbole. Why? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 32:05

In a way, I agree with you. Why do we have to teach that to these kids who are not developed? Their brains are not developed to enough to understand the difference. That is not reality. There is no proof. No, no, no. It's it's any religion. Yes, I'm not I'm not talking about Catholic.

SPEAKER_04 32:22

Your religion is a good thing.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

Anyone who who practices who reads the Bible, you you you read the Bible. You're all the Old Testament, right? Genesis, right?

SPEAKER_08 32:31

No, I don't read that.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

A God, okay, let me let me go a step right now. A God that supposedly loves you, he wiped out women and children, including pregnant women. How is that supposed to be love? He wiped out. It makes no sense. But a child, let's say, for example, one of a child who has an anxiety problem. That's religious trauma.

SPEAKER_07 32:48

That's why we're teaching them now. Back then, like you said, it was different back then. That's why we grew up and started teaching our kids to come tell me something.

SPEAKER_08 32:56

I think that part of it, and the other part is you're just gonna sc it that was it was very isolated. Just where we were was isolated. I hate using the words Hispanic culture.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

But with but use what Chavez used to call us wetbag. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

I'll tell you what it is. No, I'll tell you what it is. The machismo. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_08 33:23

That's not it's not machismo. It's because I see it a lot in even within Waimama, there's smaller cultures, and and they're very guarded. So it still exists, but you have to just keep working at it and working at it until eventually they come out of that. Which is not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

What do you think uh um causes that partition between those many communities? What's the common link?

SPEAKER_08 33:54

Not knowing, they don't know and then not being in not being not knowing, not integrating into the greater culture. Yeah, okay. They want to just to stay within together. Okay, my my in-laws, I'll give you an example. Yeah, they've been here for 30 years, will not uh learn English to save their lives.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

Right.

SPEAKER_08 34:14

Because and they're like, no, we want to go here and this because this is where they speak Spanish, and this is where I can go, and that's all I want to do. I don't want to go anywhere else. I don't want to be uncomfortable in any way. I don't want to go and challenge myself to go something, learn something new. I want to be comfortable.

SPEAKER_07 34:30

They don't want to try anything new, like restaurants and all that, too. No, no, and the same spot.

SPEAKER_08 34:35

Yeah, it's the same spot, it's always the same food. Yeah, they're not adventurous, and should I know, I get it, they're very conservative. That's perfectly normal because that's how they were raised, and they're not gonna deviate from that. But we have this culture, so even within like um the farm working community, there's two separate ones. There's the ones that travel, which are the migrant ones, and there's the ones who stay here year round, and they work different jobs. Right. So the ones who tend to travel, they tend to stay together as a family unit. It's the once they start settling out, then they start having the same problems as a traditional American family. They start the divorce rate goes up, um, the uh uh domestic violence goes up because they start settling out, but when they're traveling together, you don't see they don't because they're you know they have their own the only pre-field they have is themselves. So they depend on each other a lot more.

SPEAKER_07 35:33

But also there too, they have it where women only can speak to women, they can't have men friends, and men can't can have all the friends they want, but they I've seen that a lot. That's so much is what I'm talking about. I've seen that. Where the women can only talk to women, it's really pretty. But the guys can have all the friends that they want. I've seen that.

SPEAKER_05 35:53

Do you think there is a uh faith-based belief that partitions the families or the the no? No, it's just for example, for example, um uh the majority of our kids here at uh park, I would say. I'm assuming they're all majority Catholic. No, right?

SPEAKER_04 36:14

No.

SPEAKER_05 36:15

I'll say I would say majority of them. I would say majority.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

A good large amount because there's a lot of churches. Large large number, right? Right down to street. Just wait, wait till Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 36:23

There's yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_04 36:24

They're doing some rain dance over there.

SPEAKER_05 36:28

Actually, I'm I'm a huge fan of those, man. I I love those.

SPEAKER_07 36:31

Um and my daughter's gonna join that one for the for the what is that dance anyways for?

SPEAKER_04 36:37

The danza for the virgin. For the virgen, yeah. For what virgen? Because I mean, this is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

Because uh this one?

SPEAKER_04 36:45

Because um I never seen this shit until when I came here with mama. No, they do it in the Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 36:52

They do it in San Isidro, well, well, in Mexico is ground zero. It's where I'm saying over there, over there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:00

But like over there in New York that never did none of this stuff. Well, yeah, because they're further further away from the city. No, again, again, what did I just say? Yeah. When I first came here, is the first time I see. No, no, no, I I don't I don't blame you. Either that or you subconsecly.

SPEAKER_05 37:15

Three weeks, and now he's everything. Which is somewhat what I what I did.

SPEAKER_08 37:20

I'm not following.

SPEAKER_04 37:22

So yeah, so yeah, like all that's new to me.

SPEAKER_07 37:27

Like seeing all that stuff, like now that's been going on for years and years. And even so even my mother-in-law, my father-in-law tells me they've been doing that in Mexico where they live, they're from. Yeah, they've been doing that for years.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

I know that in Mexico they do certain stuff. Like I when I got when I go there and I see them do stuff like that. But I don't remember going over there in December and seeing anything like that. Yeah. But it's a it's a very one day.

SPEAKER_08 37:49

Yeah, it's only it's it's just one day. They practice a lot, but they do it more here because it's requested, but it's actually just for one day. It was just decided.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

Well, that's probably why that's because I don't like said, remember we talked about it.

SPEAKER_05 38:01

It's a beautiful event, man. It it's it's really neat because it's it's somewhat exotic, I think. You have to what be up at five, six?

SPEAKER_08 38:09

Um how do you yeah, black.

SPEAKER_07 38:11

Not every morning, they have to be at church by be doing everything by five. So they have to be up. It's really neat.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

Four o'clock in the morning. The one that I remember is is watching those guys walk on their knees or go all the way up to that thing where the Virgin Mary is at. I remember that. But that those are man dessert are different. But that's saying that's what I remember when I go out there and we'll see that, or when they had the the danzas también, but it was it was never like I never seen them dressed up by like Indian people. They're they're dressed, they're dressed.

SPEAKER_05 38:41

Go back to wherever they're whatever region they're from, practically we go back.

SPEAKER_04 38:47

That's what I'm trying to say. I didn't I don't remember. Maybe like, yeah, we have probably seen it in Mexico, but they weren't dressed up like Native Americans. Let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_05 38:56

Right, right. Um I'm not gonna start a fire. I'm not I'm not trying to fi start a firestorm. That story uh or the origin the the origins from that story is actually fairly. The your Europeans, they brought the Catholic Church faith to Mexico, right? The Indians had no choice. Hold on. Yes, it is, yes it is. Oh remember, this guy here is this is this is uh this is historical fact. This has to do nothing with the with the religious remember what we said about using the word facts.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Isn't that normal?

SPEAKER_05 39:32

Yeah anybody been here to St. Augustine? Florence? Yeah, yeah. You've been to Saint Augustine? Yeah, I've been to St. Augustine. Okay. How did the Catholic Church become so prominent there? I this will give you a little example of what happened in Mexico.

SPEAKER_07 39:47

What uh like the Marcos? Um what was his name? I I can't remember his name up there.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

Okay, Ponce Leon. There you go. Okay, but but do you do you know how Catholic faith got there? Did they have a little fort there, Fort Matanzas? No, that was a military. But uh that's Castillo San Marcos. But how they got there is they the Spanish got there obviously before the French. There was a big battle. This is how the say San Marcos Castillo San Marcos was built to keep the French out. The Spain, the Spaniard won, and then the the second battle was against the natives here in Florida.

SPEAKER_08 40:26

And made them play slaves and they said.

SPEAKER_07 40:32

Both. Both down in Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 40:34

It wasn't no, it really happened really similar here in Mexico. But this happened before Mexico. That's why that's what I'm trying to get to. So the natives there had no choice. Either you believe in Catholic or you were slaughtered. That is a fact. There is no disputing that.

SPEAKER_07 40:49

In fact, the river and where is that fact at?

SPEAKER_05 40:52

Go to St. Augustine. Anybody will tell you the story.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

Okay, okay, okay. Sorry. How does that have to do with this over here? Well, which one? Well, these guys dancing in like when I remember when I when I see these people, I I see Native Americans. Because I over there at the Reds, I seen them, they're dancing and stuff like that. Okay, okay. But they're not dancing for for the Virgin Mary, they're dancing for whatever they're dancing for.

SPEAKER_05 41:15

Okay, and uh and uh Tony just brought up a great point. The reason why we do it in Mexico, because it depends on your Mexico.

SPEAKER_04 41:25

Depends on your faith, the feathers.

SPEAKER_05 41:27

According to the Spaniard, uh the Virgin de Guadalupe appeared there, therefore the Catholic faith must be imposed there.

SPEAKER_07 41:34

And who did he appear?

SPEAKER_05 41:36

Regardless of the Aztecs and Mayans' beliefs. So why do we want feathers here? That's what they did. They forced the Indians to dance to the virgin.

SPEAKER_04 41:46

These are Aztec wears they're supposed to be. Yes, they had no choice. That's where he said. And the ones in Mexico that wear regular dress hats are Spanish people?

SPEAKER_05 41:53

That celebration for the Virgin, the dancer?

SPEAKER_04 41:56

That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to say that.

SPEAKER_05 41:58

They're all the same, they're just this dress different. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

The people that dress over there, because you're saying that the people that dress with regular dresses are from Spain, and then the people that dress with feathers like he are the natives. The the danza? La danza.

SPEAKER_05 42:11

That's what you're saying. Really quick. No, that's not what he's saying. That's what you're saying. No, no, no, no, no. La danza is to dance. La danza is to dance for the virgin, right? We got that correct, right? Yeah. In Mexico, when that first tradition first started, it was with the Native Americans. This is why explains the big uh Indian outfit here in Guaymama. Okay. They had no choice. The Spaniard said the Virgin appeared here, therefore you have to dance for her. That's how that started. The Spaniard said that? The Spaniard brought the Catholic faith to Mexico. So are you saying that the Virgin Mary were looking at the other? Again, I'm not gonna start a firestorm. That's up to you who you want to believe.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

She migrated there, goddammit. No, DJ did not appear. Do you want to ask me?

SPEAKER_05 42:56

You're asking me?

SPEAKER_02 42:58

She took the Cantamarillo of Christopher Columbus. My honest came to Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 43:02

Juan Diego picked that shit up. Juan Diego, I according to historical uh uh uh uh that's what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

All I wanted to know is why they wear feathers and over there they wear dresses.

SPEAKER_04 43:18

That's why I don't care if that was it, if but to answer she's American or she's Spanish or Mexico. I don't care.

SPEAKER_05 43:26

Let me answer Carlos. I know I ruffle a lot of feathers, but his feathers.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

I know.

SPEAKER_05 43:34

Let me answer Carlos without interrupting. Ask me again. Again?

SPEAKER_09 43:42

Go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 43:45

So the Linke de Guadalupe, yeah, is she from Mexico or Spain? No, no, no, no, no. That one. So do you think for those for those paying pictures?

SPEAKER_05 43:55

Louis pointed at Catlos. Yeah. One do you think what Diego was made up. Two. Where is he from? The whole Virgin Mary that appeared to Juan Diego is that made up as well. Let me answer the first one because the earth was going to automatically answer the second one. Okay. First of all, I don't think. I don't think. Just leave it there. Just leave it there. Just stop it there. I don't think. No. The evidence is a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

I don't think you know either party subscribed.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

The evidence tells me that that event never happened.

SPEAKER_08 44:30

Alright, so we're all gonna go to hell now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 44:34

I believe in God. I don't believe in the other one.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

I believe in God.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

I'm saved.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

If you ask me, I don't think the Aztecs never had an option to practice or worship uh the God that the Catholics introduced to him. How are you a practicing Catholic? Catholic? Catholic? That's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_08 44:54

The Catholic Great question.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Great, great question. So the Virgin Mary is made up. It's not made up. No, no, no. So you're saying the Virgin Mary is. Hold on, what one is the Virgin Mary's from Spain.

SPEAKER_08 45:11

You might want to cut a lot of this out.

SPEAKER_05 45:14

No, I'm not saying the Virgin Mary is from Spain, no. Okay, but then how'd she get to Mexico? The faith is from Europe, yes.

SPEAKER_04 45:20

So where's the Virgin Mary from? Because there is no I don't know. There's different Virgin Mary's, right? There's Mer Virgin Mary, no, it's all the same, it's all the same person.

SPEAKER_08 45:29

It just appears in different parts.

SPEAKER_04 45:31

Okay, so the one that appeared in in Mexico, quotation marks, because obviously Mr. Juan Diego. He's not real. Allegedly. Because I don't see his birth certificate, so we can't really see if he's real or not. Just like these are according to the Just like this guy over here.

SPEAKER_05 45:49

No, he's in the whatever they use for the Catholic birth certificate.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

So So the main thing is these guys here in my mama believe it in the native way, and the ones in Mexico believe in the European way.

SPEAKER_05 46:08

It's all engraved that it's all the same faith. No. You're not understanding what he's saying, but no, they're just that's too different.

SPEAKER_08 46:16

That's just that's a way of those. There was just their way of prayer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

What they could hear, it could be the same. They could. So the one over here is Americanized, and the one over there is I think you're going down a rabbit hole that doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_08 46:29

I mean, it doesn't really matter as long as they're freaking doing the dance for the Virgin Mary. I don't think there's a rabbit hole there. I think you may try to make one.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

I'm just trying to try to figure this out, guys. I'm just I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 46:42

You're actually you're starting to sound like him now. Like me. Yeah. How? Because you're trying you're still trying to feed him and tell him when he doesn't. No, no, that's a good question. Why are they dressed different than the ones here? That's Tony. He's the one who goes there. I don't know. I didn't bring it up to dress different.

SPEAKER_08 47:04

They're not dressed as they're kilts. It's different. It's different when the region. I've seen it from different churches, and they all dressed up for the what do they call it? Like we don't know.

SPEAKER_07 47:14

Tony probably is more versed on that. We've seen like two or three different kinds. Yeah, we're dressed differently.

SPEAKER_08 47:18

Yeah, they're completely different. Yeah, yeah. That's the same thing. But what's what's the thing called, I guess? Adamsa. Adanza.

SPEAKER_07 47:24

Yeah. Which I participated in. But each each one has their own unique dance.

SPEAKER_08 47:31

Yeah, then they're if you go there, if you go to watch different churches do it, they're completely different. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 47:40

Yeah. So they're night and day. But each one has their own way that they dress.

SPEAKER_04 47:44

They dress like this church would dress like this because you see, I want to be, see, I want to practice the real one, so I need to know which one's the real one. You need to go down to Mexico. Good luck. There's they're all even if you go to Mexico, they're all different.

SPEAKER_05 47:58

Yeah, they're all different over there, too. You're gonna be like YouTube. You know that one song? But I still haven't found what I'm looking for. Yeah, man. Good luck.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Never gonna find the real one. I think that's the same thing with churches because they're all the same, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 48:12

Well, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 48:13

Essentially all it is just a different version of the especially like the uh the war that they had, the the Christian war with the Catholics. You know, doing who was it? Um God just happened. My father-in-law's dad was in this war. It was um I guess trying to get their religion. They were telling them, oh, you gotta practice this religion. They're like, no, we're Catholics. Where was this? In Mexico. Mexico? Yeah. Because my father-in-law's uh dad was from there. Yeah. And he was the one, he was in that war. So he always talked about that war all the time. And my even my wife knows about that.

SPEAKER_05 48:50

And just uh I'm not trying to prove a point, but who do you think is right, the Catholics or the other one?

SPEAKER_07 48:55

Who's the other one?

SPEAKER_05 48:56

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 48:57

It depends on who you are, because you can sit there and say, Oh, well, the Christians are correct. I can say they're sitting. I'm not I'm not saying that you're Christians. You know who's right?

SPEAKER_08 49:06

I'll tell you who's right. The one who won the war. You know who's George Carlin?

SPEAKER_05 49:09

Yeah, we all know who's he says the best man. I agree 100% with him.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

What did you say?

SPEAKER_05 49:15

Look it up. Look out religion, George Carlin. Just just look it up. Wait, wait, when whenever you get time. I completely agree with him.

SPEAKER_07 49:24

He's gonna do it now. No, I'm not gonna look it up.

SPEAKER_05 49:25

George Carlin, uh religion. And he was way ahead of me.

SPEAKER_07 49:30

But see, every everybody has their own and who's correct. You could be correct, he could be correct. Everybody, you don't know who's the correct one. Sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_04 49:38

Like social media, right? And the internet?

unknown 49:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:42

Can the religion be part of the internet?

SPEAKER_08 49:45

I am fortunately watching stupidity evolve and celebrated in a level that should be.

SPEAKER_04 49:51

But then you think about it, and it goes back to religion. Religion, and nothing against religion or anything, but they're the main cause of a lot of people being killed.

SPEAKER_05 50:01

Finally, me and Jose agree on something.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Alright, so when people and that's not me talking shit about religion, but hey, if you want to talk about people killing people, religion has to do a lot with it.

SPEAKER_05 50:13

So you're saying that they're doing that in God's name? Is that what you're saying? Look at what's happening now, defending Israel.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

Isn't that they believe that me from from most of it it is in God's name? Might not be your God, but it's their God.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

You just called it George Carlin. My God is better than yours. Boom. Dead motherfucker. I just called it him right now.

SPEAKER_04 50:35

It took you, I had a reading.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

That's a war. That's a war. That's what's happening right now in Iran. And didn't it say that earlier? That's exactly what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_08 50:42

You guys seen those little stickers that says, hey, I ran that up.

SPEAKER_04 50:45

Yeah. Pointed at the gas station. Yeah. But again, it's like I said, it it sucks, man. It really sucks, yeah. It has to do a lot with a lot of deaths in the world. Even though we have government and all that, religion has to do a lot with those deaths. Even until now. Unfortunately. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

I completely agree. Sucks. With this Israel, protecting Israel. Yeah. Unfortunately. And then, like you said, the. If you're a practicing Catholic, you're I'm not gonna say all of them, but more, you're gonna lean more towards defending Israel.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

And then it goes back to your quote where you're talking about the people coming the crusade when they came over here and the Native Americans and the Aztecs and all of the Crusades were in the Middle East, they weren't happening there. Whatever, them up there, the same thing, they were getting shot and killed and stabbed and wounded and all that stuff. Tell that to the Native Americans, Tony. Tell them what? The same thing? Crusades, whatever, crusades and ships coming to America and Concordors and Conquistadores.

SPEAKER_09 51:45

Conquistador and all those guys.

SPEAKER_06 51:48

No, all those guys. Oh no. Funny, funny story.

SPEAKER_05 51:51

My dad's band se amados conquistadores.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

Anyway, all that happened. You're genius to show it. And they brought the the religion.

SPEAKER_05 52:01

Where we got the picture from. In the name of God. No. In the name of whatever religion. In the name of Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

I'm gonna just use the word girl. I'm not gonna go that in depth. But I'm not gonna go that in depth, but you did. But I'm just gonna say a lot of those people got killed because, again, you said they had a choice. They had a choice for either join, join, or you're dead.

SPEAKER_05 52:27

You're dead. That's what happened in St. Augustine. This is why our Aztec brothers and sisters were wiped out. Because they refused to believe in the Catholic faith. Yeah. They had sure gods. Absolutely. They were not wiped out because all the enemies they had within them within Mexico, other the Aztecs, as soon as the Spaniards got there, that's when the Aztecs were. They were wiped out because of the diseases. No, that was St. Augustine. St. Augustine, that was the yellow fever. Who helped the Spaniards wipe out the Aztecs? Canada. Another another tribe in Mexico. Oh, of course. You got the Mayans, you got the Aztecs, and you got the Incas. Wasn't the water integrated?

SPEAKER_08 53:04

Didn't the water play a role also? Yeah, absolutely. Water. Water.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Water that God brought here.

SPEAKER_05 53:10

No, the water in the um conete. What's a conete? It's the water, right? The whole the hole with the cenote. Cenote. Cenote ascetic.

SPEAKER_04 53:19

The hole when you dive in spoon.

SPEAKER_05 53:20

This is why the Aztecs were able to survive.

SPEAKER_08 53:24

Total Mexican.

SPEAKER_07 53:25

Total Mexican, but not no shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:27

But the the actual faith of the Aztecs were the sun, the the stars. Yeah. That's what they worship.

SPEAKER_08 53:35

But didn't you worship the but doesn't the Virgin Mary have she's standing on top of the sun and the stars?

SPEAKER_05 53:41

Because they forced it on.

SPEAKER_04 53:42

Is that the Mexican Virgin Mary?

SPEAKER_05 53:44

Yeah, that's the Mexican Virgin Mary. The Guadalupe. So the thing is fake. I'm not saying it's fake.

SPEAKER_07 53:49

You said it was. You just said it's fake. You just said it was fake.

SPEAKER_05 53:52

That's I'm I didn't say that. I said that that's the one. There was no proof. Ask me if it's true. I don't believe in it. I'm not saying it's fake.

SPEAKER_03 54:00

You could have just said that. I don't have to ask you. You could just state your opinion.

SPEAKER_05 54:04

I don't. I don't believe that happened. No. It's like me. You don't have to ask me. When you wipe out a bunch of uh basically Indian tribe. No, that's nothing holy about it. I don't believe in it. I don't believe the world.

SPEAKER_07 54:18

But she didn't wipe out anybody. She just appeared. How did she wipe out anybody? She just appeared.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

I've been where she appeared in Defen.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

Oh, yeah. I've never been to I've been there.

SPEAKER_07 54:29

La Basilica. You gotta remember he's from Mexico, so he's been everywhere.

unknown 54:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:32

Never been. You been to Defen? I did. I've never been there.

SPEAKER_05 54:36

I just passed over to the plane. No, no, I I've been there. I've actually been there. You haven't been there. Go ahead, Carlos.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Let it all out, Carlos.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_08 54:46

You guys got wired, alright.

SPEAKER_05 54:47

You got wired on the wrong shit today. I'm I'm yeah. I mean. Who brought up religion? I'm confused that you guys. You did. Actually, I did fucker. Yeah, you did. You just started religion.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

I was talking about Chavez, and you said you started religion. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. See, now we remember how we remember. And then I want to know what why the feds are here to speak up now.

SPEAKER_05 55:12

He just wanted to know what the difference was, and you went on the whole. Well, let's go back on the whole nother side.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Lose that there's that. Oh, squirrel.

SPEAKER_05 55:23

Well, let me go back for that you guys actually think that um I don't think it's it's instead of it's the whole religion thing, majority of it. I disagree. Uh what do you mean? Explain synopsis. What do we think? What's your thoughts? Your opinion? It wasn't God or Jesus or the Virgin Mary that that did it. Did what humans did what? What did you just say? Conquered the aesthetics. Oh, okay. So you believe it was God who did it? No.

SPEAKER_04 56:01

No, no, but I I get it what you're saying. It was uh humans uh misusing the the word of God.

SPEAKER_05 56:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 56:09

I get that, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:11

But that's not what he's saying. What what is that? You're saying that it's religion in itself doing it because of God.

SPEAKER_04 56:18

Yeah, it wasn't because a God, it was because of the people saying it was because of God. In other words, um people don't justify what they do in the name of God.

SPEAKER_08 56:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:29

Yeah, I get that. But uh the main thing is again, but I don't think that's that what you're saying, Louis?

SPEAKER_05 56:36

Louis saying no. I think no, it was uh a face-face culture that was implemented in Mexico. Either you accepted it or not, if you didn't, you got killed. It's that simple. By that time I don't think it was a miracle. I don't think it was in Virgin May that appeared in Mexico. I don't think none of that.

SPEAKER_04 56:53

And and that goes back to why religion should never be a part of the government because it's a strong, very, very strong tool that could be manipulated and stuff like that could occur again.

SPEAKER_08 57:02

Oh, but that's that's exactly now. It's happening.

SPEAKER_05 57:05

Yeah, you don't want to listen, let's let's segue to that. Your thoughts on the Iran deal. Israel and Iran. Oh god, I don't even want to be there.

SPEAKER_08 57:14

Like, why the hell are we messing around with things that we shouldn't be messing with? These people have been fighting there for two thousand years.

SPEAKER_07 57:19

They've been fighting for years over for all this land. They win it, they lose it, they win it, they lose it, and just go back and forth.

SPEAKER_08 57:25

You know, just move move them over to Baja California uh Baja Mexico, Baja California, and just give them that piece of land it's kind of the same anyway. That over there, you you have to say that's based on religion. Just move them over there, and then just okay, you know, you you have your dirt pile over there, you have your dirt pile over there, we're done. But it's never gonna get fixed.

SPEAKER_05 57:45

In regards to who they is Israel's or Iran?

SPEAKER_08 57:48

Um Isra well it was isn't it just the uh it's primarily Israel and um what's I know it's Iran right now. The Palestine, the Palestinians. Just at this point, they've just been fighting for 2,000 years. What makes you think that anybody here is gonna fix that problem?

SPEAKER_07 58:07

Papa Trump? That's what that's Carlos's Papa Trump over there saying he's gonna go fix it. I'm a I'm gonna defend daddy. Nothing, not anybody.

SPEAKER_05 58:16

This is why I'm gonna jump up, defend you. I'm not calling him Papa. I'm not you guys. I'm gonna give credit. If anybody who's been consistent is in Carlos, man. He is consistent on his political and I would say moral views. That I will say. Am I right or no? Yeah. And no, he's not a Trumper. Who wants to guess his?

SPEAKER_08 58:38

I'm certainly not. Tony's a Trumper? I didn't know that. I didn't know that either.

SPEAKER_06 58:42

It's news of me.

SPEAKER_08 58:43

No, I just said you're smiling.

SPEAKER_06 58:44

Not baby.

SPEAKER_08 58:45

Oh, we know who it is. You'd see. Just if you want to know, just go back and subscribe. Only 995.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

We got a picture.

SPEAKER_05 58:58

But I disagree with it. I don't think we should even be over there. We're just spending money that we don't have.

SPEAKER_08 59:05

A billion dollars a day? Come on, man. It's like, wait a minute, you have m you don't have money for veterans, you don't have money for teachers, you don't have money for FEMA, but you have a billion dollars a day to burn through.

SPEAKER_07 59:20

It's like Tupac said, they got money for war but can't feed the poor.

SPEAKER_08 59:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:24

That is true.

SPEAKER_05 59:25

Yeah. That that's one thing that um upsets me is that you're not too long ago you were complaining about how veterans have a hundred percent uh disability rating and uh compared to prior wars, right? That didn't last as long as this last one over twenty years. And uh you're trying to make it harder for veterans to to receive disabilities. But now you're trying to go into war. So what the heck? That's what you're practically gonna try to send more veterans over or more service members to war, and then when they get back and they have all these problems like they did for the last twenty years, that you're complaining that they're a hundred percent, you're just going right back in circles. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:20

And removing the golf pole.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:22

I guess uh the the solution is just don't go to fucking war. Don't at least not the ones that like this. Oh, let's let them do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:32

Let them take care of their own shit. That's the only war we've been since World War II. Why is it because of the oil? It's the Cold War was over there, and that this war and the water.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:43

Everything is tied back to money. Yeah. And as soon as that oil dries up, so does that power in that area.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:51

And any well, they'll find somewhere else.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:54

But that part of the world will lose its influence over the rest of the world. It's just a matter of time. Yeah, whether it's 50 or 70 years, it's going to happen. And when it does, they're gonna just let them do whatever the hell they want for the rest of eternity.

unknown 1:01:13

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:14

Because you gotta think about it. Back in the days when they didn't have phones or planes and shit like that, or even before World War I or World War II, the motherfuckers were at war. We were over here.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:25

And guess what? During the Civil War, they were still fighting.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:30

They were still blowing each other up. And before this was discovered, they were still fighting.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:36

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:37

And it's not gonna stop until you let them actually finish the all your war masquerade and protect Israel at all costs, which is a bunch of BS.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:47

Now I'm talking now. On top of that, you what do you guys um think about this the draft he wants to do? Start with your own damn kid. There you go. I agree. Well said.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:56

Yeah. I mean, if you're if you're gonna do that, then your your kid has to be the one that goes in there too.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:01

How is he gonna do a draft? Is the last uh well, I mean, for the Marines it was good. They always meet their numbers, so um and most of them have been doing better.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

I don't know. He was talking he was talking about the other day. He wanted to do a draft. I mean, this is my thing. If they do the draft, it is what it is, it sucks for a lot of people, but you have to be equal all around. Which I know it's not gonna be equal.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:30

Just like he did. Yeah. Yeah. No, did you s did you guys hear about that? That somebody threw uh a beer at him the other day? Good. No, it was a draft beer who's able to really mean. He grabbed it and opened it up and put it in a wine glass. No, no, it was a draft It was a draft beer. He was easy, he could draft that one easily.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:52

Oh, gotcha, gotcha. I see, I see what you said.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:55

But yeah, I mean, like it at the end of the day, it is what it is until um the people, again, the we the people pick the people in charge. Um until we actually do something about it and pick wisely or not wisely or whatever. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter because all these guys, once they get in there, they're all the same, they become corrupted. Sorry to say it, but that's what the way the whole politics works, is it gets corrupted. They might be great people, you know, going in, and then all of a sudden they get a little taste of that that power. That yeah, power of the money. Let's just put it, they get a taste of a little of that money, and then all of a sudden they're making favors.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:34

I really like uh Tello Rico, but I don't know if he's gonna change once he gets in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:40

Same thing with Bobby, you know, who knows?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:42

Yeah, we won't know until I think Taler Rico is uh he would be a pretty good candidate, but oh uh I don't know, man. I I do, but I'm reserved.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:56

Does he sound like presidential material? I think so. I I think so too, but I mean I think he's fairly I want to withhold a little bit of judgment until he gets in there and see how he how he handles it once he's exposed to the rest of it. I think it's pretty fair to share. I don't think I think every every special election's been won by a Democrat in this form.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:26

And deep red states too, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:28

And there's no business some for some of these things to even be competitive.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

No, it's not I don't think it's gonna be competitive at all because of everything that's going on. It's like they're all all the other parties and say, hey, vote for us and we'll get out of the war. And then you vote for them, get out of war, and then all of a sudden, three days later, like, hey, we're sending you to war. Because that's the way it's gonna work.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:48

It's always uh isn't that what Biden did? He pulled out a war and they still criticized him. Yeah, I mean, we lost 13 soldiers. It's the way he pulled out the war. Yeah, the way he pulled out was just it was drastic. It was okay, no more wars, out.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:03

Yeah, and a lot of people got hurt.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:05

So um I think either way you're gonna get criticized. I'd rather not have any wars. I mean, I I I would have rather spend what is it, 10 billion that we sent to Ukraine compared to the what what is he asking? 200 billion? 200 billion dollars on top of that. And that's no boots on the ground. That's Ukraine doing all the fighting. So why can't we spend that money here? Exactly. Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:29

But I think it's sort of nowhere interest to how the hell are we gonna get out of debt if we keep sending money and spending money and spending money we don't even have that's why everything keeps going up, so they can cover it.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:41

What is the deficit now? Thirty nine? I don't even keep up with trillions, that's all that matters.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:47

It's like you're not gonna do it. Oh, we saved one trillion, but we spent five trillion dollars.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:52

I'm just trying to you know I'm just trying to say solve it myself. I don't really care about the rest of the world.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:57

I have to I have to check out sometimes too, man. I have Welcome to the club, buddy. Oh man. Fucking bullshit. I was like, I was like looking at it, I'm like, what the fuck? I just went to Sam's Club, man. And I'm like, I mean, 350, I sounded cheap to me. I'm like, screw it.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:15

Fill it up.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:17

What'd you guys think? 38. Unleaded. The cheapest one, man. Yeah, but how much? 38 bucks. It was I was like halfway.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:25

Jesus.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

Yeah, I don't even want to know.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:28

I had 40 miles left on mine and it went up to $90.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:32

I'm probably right about 90 bucks. Probably not that. But I was filling up with like 40. Now it's almost 70, 60, 65, 70.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:42

When we fill up the Honda, it's like 40 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:45

Jesus.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:47

And um and I'm getting like 60 miles to the gallon.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:50

Yeah, lucky. Damn. It's uh hybrid, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:06:54

Yeah, it is a hybrid. How many gallons in the tank? 10?

unknown 1:06:58

Oh.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:59

Oh, damn. Yeah. Still getting like 600, 700 miles per uh per tank full.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

What's your electric bill on that? There's an electric bill. No, it's the gas.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:10

Well, no, you don't know. The question would be what's your take-o bill? No. What are you talking about? Well, hybrids look at the gas.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:18

The batteries, right? Like the hybrid is half the the gas powers or charges the batteries.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:27

Okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. We have them at work, yeah. If you're under like 30 miles an hour, it's on electric, right? Right. Anything beyond that is on gas power. Correct. Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, we have them. We have those at work. Just uh random question, man. Uh um No, I'm not interested. No, no, no. Just just just uh um No homo. No, I was I was uh I was going through Wimama uh history not too long ago. First of all, there was uh during World War II, I think. You were out there in World War II? No, there was a uh military aircraft that crashed landed here in the South Shore area that hasn't been found.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:06

Yeah, because it was full of cartel merchandise.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:10

Ten service members died.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:12

Here?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

In Waimama? Somewhere in the Waimama area, between Waymama and um Big Bend area, somewhere here.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:18

Well, there's a lot of wooded areas, so it could be anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:21

Yeah, so it was never found, but that's really interesting.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:23

My guess is gonna be somewhere near the uh Bullfart Creek.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:27

Yeah, yeah, it could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:29

It was never found. Yeah, there were those those gentlemen.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:31

It should be found sometime soon, but all the houses they're building around here.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:34

Yeah, so I thought that was interesting. Another thing, too. This is a funny one. This is out of out of topic.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

Everything you say is out of topic, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:41

Bill Bill Bill Tucker wrote here, this this one here. Apparently, going back to Indians. First of all, do you believe in in ghosts in a paranormal? Yes or no? Yes, yeah, of course he is one. Huh? He appears today. Do you believe in uh Casper? Yeah, he's right here. Paranormal.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:00

Uh yeah, he's no, yes or no?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:03

It's normal. Yeah, it's normal. Yeah, he took a bill pillow paranormal.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:08

Yeah, sure, yeah, whatever. Yeah, Carlos? Yes, yes, Tony.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:13

Maybe, maybe what I said, you know, I'm gonna tell you right from the beginning, yeah. No te metas con nothing, way, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:29

That's why that's why you instigate it, right? No, uh from the belly button down.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:44

Come down here.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:46

No, they always go through this. Uh um now it's starting to go what off the rails that we normally do.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:52

Uh no, no, it's it's it's funny because like Louis saying he wishes he could be next to someone. Oh yeah, come out of the closet. I know, right? Oh yeah, we we we got really quick, we got to touch on it. Well, my nails in town today, obviously. For the minds from here. He's like, I would pay to smell his farts, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:13

Hell yeah, man. Yeah, I'll repeat it again. I'll pay to smell his parts. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:20

No, no, not gay, right? Not gay. Not gay. Not gay. I don't care.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:26

I gotta say that that sounded really many so I don't care what the heck it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:32

That must be an emo thing then.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:33

If it's emo or not, I don't care. Anyways, uh, if I were me fair, I'm afraid. I'm afraid like if I were if I were me fair, I think he would think I'm gay, dude, because I'd be all over his ass. That is gay. That is gay.

unknown 1:10:54

Look at him.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:54

I would say I would hold on to him with his ass. I would hold on to him so tight, man. I'll try to. Oh man. Hey, don't change my game. Hey, I'm not gonna be. It's okay. He's gonna hold on to him so tight. Hey, listen, man. I wonder from where. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:13

That's that's that that's my boy. No, you're boy, you're dead. No.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:20

That's that's that's back to the paranormal. We're trying to get to that part. You you saw a squirrel went the wrong way. Oh, he's talking about nah. He's trying to catch a note.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:32

You're the one that said up. My nah's in town right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:34

It is, dude. He is in he is in town. I seen my nah nine times, by the way.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:39

He's not there, gravel's coming soon. My other time. I think it looks better every time. We cover up a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like fine wine, baby.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:46

Yeah, yeah. I don't care, man. I don't care shit. I do, man. I think it is. Oh, my ears.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:56

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:00

And all of us are aging like milk. Ain't nothing wrong, have a man crust. Uh yes, there is. That looks it totally is gay.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:10

You know you got yours is no. Yours is probably oh, hold on. I'll I'll get to yours. Yours is probably Death Prescott. No, yours.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:18

No. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:19

Yours is probably uh I don't know. Chuck Norris. No. Or the church. Rest in peace, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:28

How are you talking bad about him?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

He's dead, dude.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:30

Yeah, man. I don't know, man. Without him, we wouldn't have giraffes.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:34

I don't know. No, he was cool, man. Maybe we know that he got his ass beat, but he served in the Air Force as well, right? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

No, he was a Texas Ranger. No.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:45

Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:47

He was uh he was an Air Force guy. Oh, he's a baseball player?

SPEAKER_09 1:12:50

He was more the karate and all that. You got it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:55

No, well, I followed this page on Wayne. Way mama something, I forgot. Wire? And I just went back, back, back, and that's where I found out about the about the military place. And I looked it up, and yeah, it is true. Uh, and then someone posted uh um that I guess uh at wee hours at night, if you go down just past north of the dumpster here off of Bill Tugger Road, yeah, apparently there's an apparition of an Indian there. Has anybody experienced that?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:25

No, no, no, again, the only Indian people I see was Was that the dancer?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:29

The dancers, I don't have you heard about that?

SPEAKER_08 1:13:32

No, I've never heard of that. I can tell you I did have one experience which scared the bejesus out of me. I was leaving Kmart when uh for the 19th. 19th?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:42

And uh, that's far that's a long time ago.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:44

Yeah, that was a long, long time ago. And I was just driving back, and I had for for the listeners tell us where Kmart used to be. Yeah, it used to be on 19th and 41. In Ruskin, yeah. In Ruskin. And I was coming back home and I turned right onto Interchange Street, and as I was calling driving um south on Interchange, all I saw, I saw some a woman who was just kind of walking along the side of the road, and I was like, well, what the heck? And then I pulled over and I looked in my rearview mirror. There was nobody there, and then I looked over to where she was walking, and it's a 12-foot wide ditch by about 12 feet deep. I got back, I just hit the accelerator as quick as it's possible, and I got the hell out of there. I was not sticking around. This is on 19th? Uh no, it was on interchange, and uh I still don't believe in ghosts. Is this was after or it was about 10? After work? Yeah, it was after work, about 10:30, 11 o'clock at night.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:49

So wait, what do you what do you kinda okay, going back to work? What do you uh what do you do for work?

SPEAKER_08 1:14:56

As little as possible.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:59

You travel for work, right? Yeah. And you go and look at stuff, buildings, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:05

Yeah, what are we getting at now?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:06

No, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:07

Have you ever had any other experiences? No, because I'm usually back home by like five.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:11

Not not uh not um paranormal. Well, maybe with paranormal. Uh on your way going home.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:20

You ever had rollover for some reason or other? Oh yeah. I've had some uh some close encounters. Close encounters. I've had some uh I've had my fair share of things that uh I shouldn't have be uh experiencing and no human should ever experience.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:38

Elaborate what? Elaborate, please.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:40

Oh, of course. For those uh this is for the paid patrons, of course. Um uh apparently what happens is if you mix those sour uh uh I think with I forgot icebreakers, the sour icebreakers, and you you mix the whole pack and a diet coke, it's very combustible in your stomach. So I had a five-speed pickup truck, and as I was shifting gears, I could hear the bubble guts going. And I made the cardinal sin because I said if I just let a bit a little fart out you had a blowout, you sharted. No, it was more than just a shart, it was a blowout, and I couldn't pull over to the right or to the left because there was a huge ditch full of water. No, that was a different different area. So and then what happened after that is I did see I saw I saw a light, and the light was shining on a portal potty, and I I saw it, and I I heard the I I heard the music and the light was shining on there, and I saw it, and I made a right hand turn. Unfortunately, there is a ditch that goes in an L shape, and you couldn't get in there, and I had to go down a dirt road that was really bumpy, and I'm shifting gears, and that thing is just going bouncing up and down, up and down, up and down, and then had to go half mile down that way, and then a half mile back is on another dirt road, and I get in there. No sooner than I get in there, than I completely blow that thing up. It was like I ate Taco Bell that day. I look over to my right, there's no TP. Soft baby. So there was a sacrifice. There was there was a there was a morning for my right sock, and then followed up by the left sock. I went home, I ruined a good sweater, my pants, I just I retired them. I I got back home, I walked through the door, I'm walking kind of funny. My wife asked me what's wrong. I said, I don't want to talk about it. I went straight to the bathroom. I washed my sorrow and my shame off of me, and I went straight to bed.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

That's what happens.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:20

Boy, a life of a musician, man. That's that's like a weekly thing. Shitting yourself daily? You're on tour, you're on, you're on the road all the time. Shitting your pants daily. It happens. I'm telling you, it happens more, it's a lot more common. You probably know a bit more about this.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:33

It does, because it's you're on you're on the road. You're on the road, you're like, okay, we gotta go, we gotta go. And if you make you make your stop and everybody's like, all right, we're good. Everybody's going to the bathroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20, 30 minutes up the road. You're already back on. And you eat something wrong. And you eat something wrong, and you're like, okay, nope, I gotta stop. Bro, we just got back on the road. It's the exit's not 10 miles off the road. You gotta wait. Nope, nope.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:57

You gotta pop a squat, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:59

Yeah, you gotta sit there and hold over.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:00

You don't lean on posing ivy.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:02

Oh god.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:04

What's what's yours uh paranormal experience?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:07

My paranormal experience? Nothing I like watching it. No, no, no. There was one time I was visiting my mom.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:13

You like watching it?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:15

I was watching, I was we were visiting my mom. We were leaving. It was me and my wife, we were and my kids, we're headed home, and we had turned down the road. It was like they're in Plant City off of Wiggins Road. We were turning around the road, and all of a sudden, we didn't see anybody there, but we just saw a freaking black shadow go right in front of the car and haul ass. I'm like, we I literally stopped. And my wife was like, Did you see that? I was like, Yeah. We rolled our windows down to see if we could see anything. There was nothing around. I said, Hell with this, fuck this, we're gone. And we just went home. We just nope. I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:51

I I've never seen anything, man. Have you?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:55

Wow. Carlos sees everything. I'm knocking on wood, man. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:59

No, I mean she's the black people. I mean black shadow. Yeah. So you know what movie is it? Uh I don't know for when whatever it was, when we would go to Mexico.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:12

Scary movie. And um don't tell me you saw the witch flying up in the air like that. No, no, no, nothing like that. Nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:18

I'll go to sleep in my um one of the rooms. Because they're all connected. It's like a ranch style, right? And you go in. And in the in that room, there's two rooms, one one to the right and one to the left. And the bed's right there. And I'll just lay it's during the day. I'll just go take a nap. And for some reason I would wake up and I could see my body. And then out of bodies experience. I would go back in it, but then I could not move left to right. If I try to move, I feel like there's nothing there. Like if I'm gonna fall. I'm on the bed. Yeah. But there's You can actually see yourself? No, now I'm back in my own body and I'm trying to move. Like and I can't move. What do you call that?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:05

It's an out-of-body experience. No, no, no. Paralysis. Paralysis, yeah. Paralysis.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:09

Yeah. So I'm trying to move to the right, but there's the bed's there, but um you I don't feel nothing. Like I'm good, you're gonna like you're on a pole and you're gonna, you know, um, and then a black thing in the corner. I don't know what it was. She's just a shadow.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:29

A dot.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:29

And you can't do anything. You can't do anything, you just did it come towards you. I don't know how this uh you just noticed that it was her. Yeah. Oh my god, that sounds like a freaking nightmare.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:39

I haven't had any experience like that. I mean, I had the the dream, the the f crazy dreams and shit like that. But I in Mexico, the same thing where he was at, um, uh, my grandma's room, I was sleeping in the same room because everybody basically sleeps in the same room. So I walked out in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. Normal, you know, went to the bathroom, me vine patrás. Well my grandma said that she woke up too, and she saw that black dot follow me.

unknown 1:22:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:11

And I was like, why the fuck you tell me this shit? I gotta go back to sleep. Oh my god, that's kind of it's like, yo, what the fuck? Like, yeah, why why why am I oh yeah the next day he's like motherfucker, come on.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:28

I I had sleep paralysis one time when I was in my mom's house. I used to stay in the back room and I just remember I was being I just tired. Typically that's what triggers, right? Sleep paralysis, like uh sleep deprived. I think I was sleep deprived and and I slept, I was reading a book and left the lights on, and and like let's say the doors over there, right? I fell asleep, then I I woke up, everything seemed the same. Yeah, so I have the book here. I remember closing it. I think you were dreaming within a dream.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:57

Yeah, but it's a dream within a dream or whatever it is, it's it's it's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:01

And then I heard knocking, and I'm like, padale, padle. And no, and then uh I seen the door pretty open, and I'm trying to look to see who it is, and and nothing, nah, and then I get pop. And then I'm like, and this old lady just peeks out, man, just looks at me. Really, oh really eerie, eerie uh uh facial expression. Just looks out and kind of smirks at me, and oh my god. That's enough. I wanted it, I could not get off to save my life, man. I wanted to move, like it's my body was so heavy, so it was terrifying, man. She was watching. Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:41

Some shit like that happened to me in the barracks uh in Maryland because where we stayed, it was an old Navy, what was it? It before it used to be a Navy retired base.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:50

Back it was old, old creepy ass place we had to stay in. Um the same thing. I went to sleep. I wake up in the middle of the night. Well, again, it's a dream within a dream, and everything's exactly the same.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:03

But uh when I wake up, I look up and um in the barracks we have these things where they have our little closets, and I have one and my roommate has one. And right on top of us that one little monito rojo. Like, I would say the devil. It looked like the devil to me. Whatever, but he was just there looking at me, smiling, and saying, Shit. You can't do shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:22

It's like, fuck, I can't move. I can't move.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:25

And then eventually I woke up, I ran and turned the fucking light on. My roommate, like, yo, what are you doing? Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:33

And then I went back to sleep and I was like, oh shit. That shit got me like.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:36

It's scary as hell, man. It's and it feels like eternity trying to get up, man. And I'm trying to slap myself, like, like pinch myself or something. I can't.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:45

I was just watching that guy, he's just smiling, like you said, the little fucking creepy ass smile.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:50

It's creepy, and just looking at you. It's like it is creepy, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:54

And and I thank God I haven't had my wife had an experience like that. Like, not like that, but we were renting a house in Riverview before we got the this one out. And she was like, she was telling me it's happened a couple of times where we had like a laundry basket by the door to hold it up in like our bedroom door, like for the AC and all that. She said that I don't know, she just woke up, and then she could see my the laundry basket just freaking moved from one side to the other side, and then she would sit there and turn around and try to wake me up and could not wake me up. She was screaming at me, waking me up. She's like, you know, me and my kid and my daughter for the oldest one. We were just knocked out, and she was like, I was trying to wake you up and you will not wake up. Then she will literally see the basket like this and go right back.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:37

I actually woke up my wife one time out of a sleep paralysis. Really? Because I can tell she was trying to move, trying to wake up. I actually woke her up, man. That was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:48

Yeah. They say you're not supposed to wake them up, you're supposed to let them.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:51

Yeah, I woke her up. I got scared, man, but you can tell she was trying to get up.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:56

Yeah, well, ever since then, that when we're staying in that house, we left the closet light on all the time. Enough so we can see inside the room. No, who has holy water? You're not a Catholic, you're practicing, so you don't need it. I am a Catholic. I actually do my art. I actually pray everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:10

That's when uh the religion comes in and like No, no, no, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. For me, yeah, I was like, oh, gonna say something. It's just a dream. Yep, yep. Start taking out the Virgin Mary thing I got over here. Like, oh, rosary. I have to Virgin Mary. Who said I didn't believe in this thing?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:29

I I I actually had my wife draw me that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

Yeah. Where's the guy at?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:34

Remember it appeared here in Clearwater? You go here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Oh, so that's the Clearwater Virgin Mary. It's it's not she didn't appear that way because it was more of an angle, right, Tony? It was the Clearwater? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:45

Yeah, it was more like an angle kind of thing, but it was not, it wasn't the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:49

It was just like a it was like a well to me it looked kind of bluish.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:56

Well, yeah, it was more of an outline because that was the Spanish one.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

That was the Clearwater about 25 years ago, man. Those, those, because we seen it firsthand. Tony, you you remember that, right? Those are hard to explain. I have no explanation for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:12

But anyway, speaking of it. Go back, go back, go, go back to the Virgin Mary thing. Go back to the Virgin Mary thing. I have a quick question. Quick question.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:19

Yeah, go ahead. The Spanish are still here, though. But we have a first first account. Nobody died. Nobody died. Nobody forced nobody to believe in it. Either you went out to go look at it and and no, but anyway, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:36

So Carlos goes back to uh the Mexican Virgin Mary with the guy. What's the guy's name? So that version of Mech uh Virgin Mary the Guadalupe? Yeah. That one's different than the one if you go to Europe, it's a different one.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:50

Yeah, that's different. It's the same.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:52

It's the same person, but it's a it's a different like the ones over there won't have the little guy in the bottom, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:58

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:59

No and Their colors are different also.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:01

Yeah. With the bottom are sometimes angels. Well, she's supposed to appear to you in no your own culture. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:11

So okay, okay. So that's why over here apareció Morena.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:16

And over there. She's white. Yes. And I hear the radio again. Yeah. Yeah. Un promedio. Let me see what it's saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

It's Cuban.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:26

It's Cuban radio. That is that is creepy.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:31

Superstition shit. Are you sure it's not Puerto Rican? No, that's Cuban. You're talking about Cuban. Yeah. Yeah, so it was interesting. That whole thing, like the Virgin Mary, there's different ones.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:42

There's American one, there's obviously maybe the American one is the one in Mexico.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:48

Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:49

Well, America. America. Yeah. There's an American Jesus and.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:54

No, we don't gotta go there.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:56

We ain't going there. It's true. It's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:58

There is.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:58

Well, you just saw another squirrel. God damn.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:02

I guess you're right. There's because Jehovah's Witness has a different version of Jesus the way he died. One more. Catholics. Well, we're not going to go to that one. We're going to go with the Catholics. They say Jesus died on the cross, and then the Jehovah's Witness says he's died on a stick. On a pole. Okay, a pole. Stick. So which one's right, Tony? Because you did both. Then you got Mormons.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:27

Then you're gonna I'm gonna just say go with the the cross. Because that's historically what they were doing at that time. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:36

Correct. The Roman Empire. It was actually a common practice.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:40

Put them on the cross. We're not talking about the talking salamander? It's kind of like tacos and tacos, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:47

Anyway, that was enough of religion talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:51

Yeah, let's uh let's move on. Another note. FIFA. We watching it this year? You mean the World Cup? FIFA World Cup, yeah. Of course we're gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:59

I mean, I won't watch anything else, but I'll watch it. Yeah, Mexico's probably make it past the first round. That's about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:07

I don't even think they might make it out.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:09

You mean so? You mean that they call calling up a 40-year-old guy isn't gonna be their savior? Who are they calling up? Aren't they calling up a Ochoa?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:16

They need Ochoa. They don't have nothing. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that if they do, it might be second place. I'm not gonna take first. They need everybody to help them out to get out there. I'll root for them. I mean, the guy, the the the coach they have is bombered freaking.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:36

He's he's he's done good with them, but there's no too many injuries too close to the to the you know to the tournament. Sucks.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:45

I'm not expecting big things from them. Like I said, we'd be lucky. We'd be lucky if we get past the first round. We should have a f ⁇ party, man. We should watch it here.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:54

I I I expect the US to make it farther than Mexico does this year. I don't know. They're kinda they're in a hard uh conference, but I think they'll they'll pull it off. You think so? Yeah. I don't think they'll be able to do that. I think they'll make it past the first round.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:06

Hypothetical US versus Mexico, who you going for?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:08

They're not gonna hypothetical right now?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:12

With what the the teams, the players they got, who will win?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

Who would win or who is he going for?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:18

For well, how's that hypothetical? Why are you answering a question with the question? I'll just go over Mexico. Thank you. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:24

No, I'm just trying to win it. When it comes to you, I have to make sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:29

You asked two questions. That's why that's why he's confused over there. I just say who would you go for it? No, you say hypothetical, and I was like It's a hypothetical question.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:38

No, it's not a hypothetical question. It's like preference. Which one do you want to win?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:43

Who do you want to win? Mexico. Mexico? All right. You would rule for Mexico. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:49

But if they're going by with the entries, USA.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:52

Because you said hypothetical. That's why I was like, what do you mean by hypothetical?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:56

They're not in the same group. Why? That's why.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:58

Yeah, no, they're just they're not gonna face each other. No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:02

At least not the first round.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:03

I don't even think the second round. I think they're in the different uh spots. Brackets. Different brackets altogether? I don't know. I have to look at it.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:09

It depends on how everything falls after the first four. Who would you go for? Mexico. F, I think it was. Tony? Don't care. Josh. I just sat there and told you. I was recording. You have some family for you? Me? No. I'd root for Mexico. No, I'm saying some of your family members are going for USA. Yeah. You can tell who? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:37

I I honestly think like the U.S. has a better chance of getting farther than Mexico this time of year.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:43

Yeah, but. I'll root for the U.S. You just gotta watch the first round to see how everybody plays and go from there.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:48

I'm gonna be rooting for both teams. I'm gonna be rooting for Mexico when they play, and I'm gonna be rooting for the U.S. when they play. I mean, if they win, great. I'll I'm gonna go for again. We're I'm here. The U.S. did a lot for me, so I'm gonna support them.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:02

USA.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:03

Yeah, I would say USA. I mean, I'm I mean, they did a lot for me. They did more than Mexico did. It's not Mexico's fault. It is That's a whole nother You could tell that you could even be like, Dad, why'd you come here? Because Mexico wasn't doing shit for me over there. That's why they came over here.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:19

But isn't it but don't we go back to the same thing? If you are successful in the city, in the big cities, you don't come here.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:27

They didn't have a chance to go to the big cities.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:29

I understand that, but that's to to say that most, you know, it that that doesn't work over there. It works if you're in the right spot, but if you're not, then it doesn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:40

You have a better chance over here of becoming a millionaire here than becoming a millionaire over there in Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:45

I'll turn that around. You got a bigger chance being more in debt here than over there.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:49

I don't know. I don't I mean, it it's hard to get in debt when you don't have uh you don't have anything?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:54

Yeah, you don't have to actually own land in Mexico. A lot of land here. You can own land here too. That's guaranteed.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:01

But again, for for a migrant or not a migrant, but illegal alien come over here and have credit cards and stuff like that, you need what? So cards. So you can't basically that's how you get in debt. Social security cards or car loans. Right. That's probably the most debt people get from over there coming over here.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:20

Yeah, so it's you're car loan. Yeah, your biggest debt is your house, the second biggest one is gonna be your cars. And it's gonna be hard for them to buy a house here.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:28

They have to know the ins and out to buy a freaking house.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:31

What's the third one?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:32

Third what?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:33

What debt debt debt debt? I'm sorry. Uh medical bills.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:39

But that'll that won't that don't won't go against you. You can't. Yeah, that's not gonna go against you.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:44

It'll bankrupt you though. No. It'll either do that or you lose your life. No, which one do you want?

SPEAKER_07 1:34:48

You'll still get you'll still get taken care of, but it's against the let me just tell you there.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:54

The health care here is way better than Mexico. It's uh yeah, oh that that's that's another that's another the the medicine might be cheaper over there, might be cheaper. Yeah, but that's because you're making people here. For people over there, it's not cheap. And then plus the good hospitals over there are in the big cities. And when you talk about in the big cities and you have to have money. All the other people, they live out in the fucking boonies and they're going to some fucking curandero. Which is really sad.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:22

No, but but at the end of the day, it's the individual. They want to get better, it's the person, so they could be better there or here. Yeah, yeah. It's not it's not like oh, I'm not gonna make it over there. Just I'm better off making it here. To a certain point, yes, but you can also make it over there as well. If it weren't for my job, I'm not read. You can't get implants? I I wouldn't get my my knees fixed. Who's gonna pay for it? America. No, they won't. America. They'll say go stay suffering till you pay for it. No. That's how you get in debt.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:58

They'll pay for it.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:59

Trust me.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:00

No, they won't. They'll figure away. No.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:04

Anyway. You can't go into debt with medical. You can't get into that. That's how he pays for it. Hey, Quilito.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:16

Manah. Al cabo no kid.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:19

Yeah, that's what you are saying right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:22

So you say you could go debt for what? Medical. Medical. For medical, yes. Yes. You can. Yeah. Yeah, easy. It could bankrupt you. Yeah. Yeah, you can. Easy. They'll get you where they have to They'll treat you, but they will not hold hold on. They'll diagnose you, but the ongoing treatment? No.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:41

No, they'll just that comes out of your pocket. Yeah, they're only supposed to save your life.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:45

Yeah, that's the main thing. They're saving your life. Your knee is not going to stop you from living. Well, it's going to stop you from working from working.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:51

And then after that, you Which you get into debt.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:56

If your knee goes messed up and you can't walk and can't do anything, that's when you get uh Social Security, disabled, and then it goes back to personal finance.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:04

Yeah, and then all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:07

Eventually you'll get fixed.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:09

Which I which what I'm what I'm looking into.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:11

Alright. So, like I said, hey parents came over here and didn't have any choice. Fillers.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:19

Any closing statements? Oh, shout out to Spain.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:22

Yeah, to Spain. They got the real Virgin Mary over there. We just started.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:28

I thought they would be in Rome.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:29

That's the Roman Virgin Mary. Oh, good. Just thank you for everyone that's listening. The real Virgin.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:34

Yeah. Jose.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:36

What's up?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:36

Anything else? Final thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:38

Uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:38

Um congrats on your pre presidency, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:41

Oh, yeah. Thank you, thank you. Uh take your kids on Wednesday. What's it called, Carlos? Why Mama Wire Wire Wednesday?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:47

Yeah. Yeah. Carlos is gone, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:50

Yeah, take them out there to the soccer tryout. Try out in May.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:55

May 1st May 1st. Competitive try first. May 1st, competitive tryouts. New ideas. Warrior Wednesdays.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:02

Under new management. With Mama Warrior Wednesdays. Yes. What is With Mama Warrior Wednesdays? So everybody knows. What what? With Mama Warrior Wednesday. Oh, for um, it's uh free training for girls from U10 all the way to U19. Don't know the birth dates off my top of my head. So just go. Stop by the Rice Club. 5705 Petersburg. Street? Yep. Yeah, street. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:32

Also letting everybody know that soon, I don't know how soon, there'll be more stuff to buy at the concession stands besides water and Gatorade. Stop by, get your nachos. Oh, I never bought out the nachos, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:43

You didn't bring the nachos cheese. Crab pot's still going. It's probably burnt. No alcohol, guys. No alcohol.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:48

No alcohol, though. Of course. Yeah, no alcohol. No alcohol. You there's alcohol, you will be asked to leave. Carlos will kick you out.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:56

When everything goes south, Carlos is a man. Yep. He's the face that runs the place. Anyway, that's it. Anything? Tony, anything else? No se meta con nadie, but not into la meta.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:08

He talks with great experience. No, I don't.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:13

Yes, he does. We have the photos. Is that why he talks so softly?

SPEAKER_08 1:39:18

No, I want to sound professional. Not like you hooligans.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:24

Young cultured koos.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:26

Tell him, are you on? Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:29

Call us. Try to talk professional with a big old cock on his fucking shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:33

It is true. Nobody take a picture of him. Nobody take a picture of him. He does have a cock. Take a picture.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:40

Yeah, I have Thor. Thor, the cock.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:43

With his hammer going up his ass. But, anyways, yeah. Take a picture. For reference. Take a picture of that cock on the club.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:50

I'm gonna do a Louie.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:53

Louie. Don't cover the cock's face, man. That's the most important part.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:59

All right, fellas. That's it.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:01

Come on by to the park. Come on by to the park. We'll be there.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:04

Yes, sir. Alright. See ya. Peace.