Goes off the rails again. Let's blame Tony.

Grab your coffee, grab your beer. Let's talk, Wimauma!

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:06

No, no, who won? Who won? Who won? No. Just admit it. That's probably true. We ain't winning right now. This is the thing. I could admit that I was, you know, played and it wasn't. But a comment. No. I could admit that, right? That's where it gets. You guys could admit that you guys lost. Yes, absolutely. The Democrats. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Okay, bitches. Alright, so I'm gonna go around. Oh boy. Who'd you vote for? Republican or Democrat? I voted for Kamala Harris. Answer the goddamn question, man. Kamala Harris, he's Democrat, no. Democrat. Did they win or lose? They lost. Okay, next person. Democrat. Did they win? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 0:51

They lost, right? Cheated. Did they win or lose? According to them we lost, yeah. Okay, okay. We damn much. Over there.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

Next one. You, yes, you. Mr. doesn't know. We don't even know who you are, Mr. Filipino. You can skip Carlos on this.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Filipino. 54% waist down.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

Oh, 50%. Well, guess what? The coin now is on the other side where you lost. Next person. You didn't even vote. So shut up. Might as well ask Dave J.

SPEAKER_06 1:15

If he runs again.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

He can't run again. Can't run again.

SPEAKER_06 1:19

He's trying to make that. You haven't heard his comments? He's trying to try to try whatever he wants to try. Everything else he said he would go.

SPEAKER_04 1:27

If he runs again, I'm not going to vote for him. Hey, listen, brother. I I they laugh at me. I don't think Tony laughed. This shit's like 21%. Tony, Tony. Trump is not going to leave office peacefully. They make fun of me, but I'm telling you, he already did it once. He's not going to leave peacefully.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

I just hope he leaves.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

The only way he's going to leave peacefully if he calls his course. Yeah, dies in his sleep. He dies.

SPEAKER_06 1:49

He's just making so much damn money right now. Like he's the whole needle.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

That's the only reason that you came back to the office. Yeah, him and his reason to get rid of it. One Mr. Gay stay out of jail.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

Yeah, that's number one.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

That's number one. And the second one is to make more money.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

Make some money, baby.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

That's why you manipulate the markets to make money. He don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

You buy them all do the same shit. They all get in the all do, absolutely. Absolutely. There's no.

SPEAKER_06 2:09

But he's more blunt and open about it and doesn't give a fuck. That's where this shit is like. Damn, you're that cocky with it? Like, didn't he get a free plane or something like that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

God man. From another country.

SPEAKER_06 2:20

Yes. It's a gift.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

And he's like, damn, it's not a copper gif, though. You can't get more than $25.

SPEAKER_06 2:26

Well, he did, sir. So the what? Like he's his. You know what's crazy? They all do it. You're right. They all do it, but he's open and doesn't give a fuck about it. That's what's like that cost.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

That's the thing that nobody's gonna do shit. And that's the that's the problem.

SPEAKER_06 2:40

Damn. But like you said, it's always been like that, no matter who the hell's in there.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

And that's the that's the issue, that not the the Senate won't do shit, the congressmen won't do shit. Nobody's gonna do that.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

But we we did. We we we tried to impeach him, but look at how that turned out.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

No, but they you could have tried to impeach him, but they could have they would have gave like great evidence and shit like that. If you want to impeach somebody, you would impeach him.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

We they they should have impeached him for that over that um, they should have done something real Ukraine deal, but that that was terrible. They should have done something that's gonna stick and it's good. The first the first time? Oh that that was terrible. They they shouldn't have done that. Can you guys hear? I can hear you.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

You can? I can't hear me.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

I can hear Carl.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

I can't.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Uh yeah, I can hear myself.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

I can hear him over there.

SPEAKER_06 3:28

Yeah, good? It's going left, right, and I'm gonna go back. Testing balls in, testing balls in.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

No, este decía testes, testes, testes. Test these.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Testes, testes. Who's who's who's who's brought up hot dogs and balls and all this time since we've been here?

SPEAKER_03 3:47

Glizzy mouth. Those glizzy guys over there. One has a glizzy cart and the other one eats it.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Which one is it? I gotta tell you, I do have a hot dog cart and gonna I I you bought it from who? I actually uh I got it for Louie because he said he's gonna be selling uh hot dogs out there.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Oh, he's saying that he bought it from who? Who can't hear? First of all, who can't hear? You put it on?

SPEAKER_00 4:12

I yeah, I can hear.

SPEAKER_04 4:13

Carlos? Nothing yet? Yeah, I can hear.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

I was hearing it left right.

SPEAKER_04 4:19

Are you good now?

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Yeah, now I'm fine. That sounds fine. I'm good, bro. Yeah, I'm kind of nasally anyway from this fucking.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

No, I'm saying you're gonna have to push my little either way.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

Yeah, okay. He mumbles.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

You're probably what takes half of the time editing, man.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

My bad.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Your voice goes from hey, really like sexy. Tony's like an end or something.

SPEAKER_07 4:44

He became a big thing. That's according to Tony's. I think the recording ain't yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

That was all on about, man. See, you see how cool.

SPEAKER_06 4:54

But it's so uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Like it just in natural. I'm just calling the playbook.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Man crush. Man crush is uh episode six. Listen to it. Nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_06 5:08

You admitted you had a man crush? Yes, bro. All men do that.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

You should, you should listen to what he said. I'm going to oh my God. I might look at him. Sounds like someone's little jelly over there. No, I ain't jealous of you.

SPEAKER_04 5:24

I'm not jelly and shit. No. We're like, yo, you're going too far. Mr. Projecting over there.

SPEAKER_07 5:29

No. No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 5:31

We just said it was wrong.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yes. You can't.

SPEAKER_06 5:33

We got a man crush. I got a man crush too. No. We're right there.

SPEAKER_08 5:37

Right there, bro.

SPEAKER_06 5:38

Right there.

SPEAKER_04 5:39

They're right there. They looked at each other. No. We got the pictures to prove it.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

We have pictures of you too as well. Yours are worse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

Me and Fer, they're cool, man. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

They're more than cool. We're cool. Offer hood. Offer.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

All right, let me adjust.

SPEAKER_07 6:05

Damn it, they recorded that.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

He said that.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

He's oh bro. He said, hey guys, I need full disclosure, I need to tell you something. And he stopped the show just to let us know what he thought.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

And then Carlos walked out and they didn't come back.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

I'm like, what are you talking about, bro?

SPEAKER_04 6:23

I'm like, bro, I was that was not my intention. My intention is to let you know that.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

And he's supposed to be Mexican.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

Who's more Mexican than Ferrer?

SPEAKER_03 6:32

That's why nobody likes Ferr.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

Los Tigres son de Coahuila? They're not Monterrey? No, no, some de Coahuila, I think.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

No, you're talking about Los Tigrillos. No. No, no, los Tigres Norte? No, I'm saying Los Tigrillos, I think they're from Monterrey.

SPEAKER_04 6:47

Los Tigrillos parece que son from my time. My my my place. Or from his place. Or this guy can't say it's my place from Control de Matamoros.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

They're de We Mama? From Brownsville. Hey, they're from Brownsville.

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Son de control. Which is like uh Weymama and Ruskin. They're two separate towns close to each other.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

So is Matamoros and Brownsville?

SPEAKER_04 7:10

Like No, that's a whole different country, man. Come on, man. Reynosa Mr. Education.

SPEAKER_06 7:18

Nah, not today.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

You got two two two separate uh countries, man. You must not go over there much, huh? Laderoos. Ladero's what? Which one? Because there's a Mexico and uh Texas one. That's my point. Which one? Which one do you do? They're the same. No, they're not. Oh bro.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

They cross over.

SPEAKER_06 7:40

Yeah, it has the same name even when you cross over, it's still.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Yeah, it's the same. No, it's in the nuevo ladero. Two separate stuff.

SPEAKER_06 7:46

When you go to uh US. So Mexico is el Nuevo.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

Yeah. So who's who's uh so according to that logic, Mexico and New Mexico, are they the same thing? No, they are not the same thing. They're separate, right? There you go. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But we're just like you already know who.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

According to you and me, right now, I was born over there and you were born over here. So it's separate, right? This guy. Right? Right? You just made that, you know. Carlo was trying to help you out. I'm just using your logic against you, man.

SPEAKER_04 8:14

How are you gonna use it against me? This guy.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Well, he's using it against you. I mean you're lying to get him away.

SPEAKER_04 8:21

His brother had to come defend him. It's alright.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

My brother's trying to help you out. I'm trying to help you out, but no. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_06 8:29

See how that works for you? Backfires. Let him go, man. Let him go. I'm starting to see his own logic.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Like Progreso, Nuevo Progresso. Progressos on the Texas side, I think. And or no, somewhere like that. And then Nuevo Progresso's on the Where's the Rio St.

SPEAKER_04 8:46

Petersburg? The what? Rio St. Petersburg. Where's the real State? I have no idea. It's in Russia. St. Petersburg.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

So that's like saying Naples.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Italy, right?

SPEAKER_04 8:59

It's in Italy.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

What does that have to do with Mexico? I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

I'm using your logic here. He's just trying to walk back that shit. It's too late, man. It's too late.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

Venice, where's the real Venice?

SPEAKER_02 9:12

In Italy.

SPEAKER_04 9:13

Yep. Yeah. What's in Venice?

SPEAKER_02 9:15

But why is it named like that here? We run out of names.

SPEAKER_06 9:19

Because they start going with numbers.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

No, the people came over here. They tried to escape the Roman Empire. And they named it like that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Yeah. But, anyways, go ahead. What's up, guys? We'll start off the show, bro.

SPEAKER_07 9:33

Freaking.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Tony's gonna start it this time.

SPEAKER_07 9:35

Oh, I thought we were already recording. Like David. Oh, yeah. We're recording. We're recording, but he always does this.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

He just like catch us off guard. Yes. Yeah, this is this is par for the course. This is what he does.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Do the intro. Nada. He just and then Salviday. Oh, wait, wait. We just start going. Oh, yeah. He changes his voice.

SPEAKER_04 9:56

We have a tradition. Mr. Concord permission.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Permission is granted.

SPEAKER_04 10:00

Thank you, sir. Welcome back to another Way Mama podcast. Tony, take us off. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Welcome back to the Waymama Wiener Wire. We have a special guest, part two.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

So uh is he a special guest?

SPEAKER_00 10:13

I think he might be permanent. Replace that pincha jecha. Oh, damn! Shots fired.

SPEAKER_04 10:18

How can you replace somebody if he's never here?

SPEAKER_03 10:20

Now he's right here, man. Oh, he is. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 10:24

He's here in spirit.

SPEAKER_06 10:27

Why is there two hands on the pillow?

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Because he's putting it there.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

That's Jose's like kind of area.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

So what do you what do you refer that to, Tony? The casting couch. Don't turn on the black light. Do not turn on the black light over there. Seminole fluid all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Woo! You gotta start sweating over here.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Turn it on, man. Why are you sweating? Take off the dadgum sweater.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

This dude always wearing a sweater in the Lord. This guy shows up somewhere. I know.

SPEAKER_06 11:00

What the heck? He's a true Floridian. That's what they do out here. All these are.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

So what you just said is he's not Mexican anymore?

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Damn, that was silent.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Nobody wants to get it. Nobody's asked. I'm not taking the bait. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.

SPEAKER_04 11:15

Man, for the record, I never I never I never said he's not Mexican. To me, he's true Mexican.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

He just heard true Floridian.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Wait, Mama Nadian.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Wouldn't it be Waimamian?

SPEAKER_04 11:26

No, dude. I coined that term. Oh, you coined it. So it's not right. You can't correct me.

SPEAKER_06 11:32

And you know what's crazy? I'm not even from Wai Mama, but I worry about you know how they're changing all these city names and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:39

Y'all think that they're gonna take the Wai Mama name away? I somehow.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

It's too deeply rooted in here. Yeah. It's uh what is it? It's three names.

SPEAKER_06 11:49

It's the daughter of a guy from way back. He's gonna be a big thing. Three three daughters. Three daughters.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

Go ahead, Tony. Explain it.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

It was uh the person's name was I forgot his name, but the the daughter's name was Wilma, Maud, and Mary. So he put them all together. So I I think it should be we mama, but we it got t lost in translation. Now it's I why mama.

SPEAKER_06 12:14

See, and unless you know the history, you think it was just some Native American.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Yeah, whenever I tell people where I'm calling from, they'll say, Oh, is that Native American? No Caucasian.

SPEAKER_06 12:24

All to the core. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

It's just like Hargo. It's two different uh persons, uh last name. Just combined it to one cargo.

SPEAKER_06 12:34

I just noticed since I've been here, I noticed that city getting like this and like this with like taking over, man.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

And it's you know, well, there's uh I uh I'm a I'm a real estate appraiser, so one of the things that I get I get access to is a lot of uh different information. So I saw all the uh plans for the Waimama village, and they want to make this into like what that they have in West Tampa, which is like everything is in walking distance. They want to make a a village where everything is self-contained. So that's their plan around here. And what's going on here is you you it's the epitome of gentrification. I mean, they're pushing out you're pushing out everybody out here who can't afford to live here any longer.

SPEAKER_06 13:16

Yeah. I'm just hoping a lot of the you know, the Mexicans that live in that area own their home and uh rent and then they you know they rent your butt out of there.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

Unfortunately, we have a lot of renters here.

SPEAKER_06 13:27

I know, I know, and that's what I'm saying. So and they know that, so it's an easy takeover, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 13:32

They just offer more money than they ever thought they could get, and then so quick. But a lot of the farmers around here, I mean, now the farmers are being they're being bought out because the kids own the land now and they're thinking, I don't want to be a farmer. Yeah, uh why would I want to farm? They're offering me a hundred million dollars for this piece of land, I'm never gonna farm.

SPEAKER_04 13:57

And let's be honest, would you take it?

SPEAKER_00 13:59

You're damn right, I would.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

I would. Yeah, I would, honestly. Hate to say that though.

SPEAKER_06 14:05

But I mean, you only have one life, so you know. Like I said, wifey wants to keep buying and doing stuff. I'm like, we need to start enjoying this, because these dark kids, we had to earn all our stuff, and they're just gonna man. Yeah, we need to enjoy some of it, especially as you age and it's like, man, you don't heal as fast like you used to, you're just like, I need to start enjoying this. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

They got it a lot better than I did, so some of us have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Those they crawl crawled out of it. What this guy's resilient. He almost took a dirt nap, man.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Man, because I ain't gonna let nobody take me down.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

No brujeria.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

No brujeria, no nothing.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

May your God strike you. Damn.

unknown 14:51

All right.

SPEAKER_07 14:53

I reckon it is. He did.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

Did you listen to previous episodes?

SPEAKER_05 14:58

I just started.

SPEAKER_04 14:58

Actually, on the drive here, I've been so darn.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

This is what I talk about when it comes to religion. It's like, yo, you guys talk about God this and God that. But how are you guys saying that God's gonna do something bad to one of his people? No, that wasn't that. That's y'all both right now saying that shit. No, no, no, no. Right now, right now, we just started talking about who started that shit.

SPEAKER_06 15:20

Who's who started talking about it right now? I'm just noticing a change. Like last week it was that. Now he's over here. Did something happen during this week? Or is this a weekly change?

SPEAKER_03 15:30

Who just started that conversation about God? There you go. There you go, guys. Hey, nope, you guys are talking bad about your own.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

No, no, you can't say that he said and then something happened.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

And then you guys are giving him the thumbs up. It comes up. Like, yeah. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_04 15:51

Let me give you the the the quick rundown. Basically, this one. They look down upon us. No, we did not look down.

SPEAKER_07 15:58

No, no. No, no, no, no, no. Speak for the people.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Because first of all, he in my case, I think my my point of view is like the religious trauma. No, no, no, no, no, no. He never said that we're trauma.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Let him go, let him go. Let it out.

SPEAKER_04 16:14

We're not, we're not. I don't I don't really go to church, right? Did you used to? I I um quite many. When you were young, you were yeah, let's say forced. You were forced to go. Man, you just brought up a great point. That's all I do. This is this is what I say, and I tell him, him, and he agrees with me. He didn't choose to be Catholic. Somehow, some doesn't, you inherited that. Whether you like it or not, yes, you did. If you're Mexican, yes, you did. You did too. Whether you like it or not. This is these are facts, man. Yeah. This is not to debate. Isn't it already to debate? Yeah, is the truth. It's true. It's so engraved in your mind that you think it's normal. And this is where I get the backlash. And I said, no, I'm gonna stop that, man. There's so much stuff that I don't agree with it. Once you reach to a certain state of uh uh reasoning, right? And some stuff, excuse my language, is fucked up. Something's not matching up, man. First of all, fear. We just brought out fear. You can't love a God that you're supposed to fear. That makes no fucking sense to me at all.

SPEAKER_06 17:14

Who taught you to fear?

SPEAKER_04 17:16

The church does. You must fear God. You must fear God. No, no, I'm not. I will never, I never will. And if that's the God you're praying to, fuck you. Excuse my language.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

But that's my why are you looking at me?

SPEAKER_04 17:29

No, listen. I'm just trying to listen to it. I don't know. I don't know if you're Catholic or not.

SPEAKER_06 17:33

Everything in that.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

I just I just don't want you to take it personal. I'm talking about the entire thing. Now, and I brought up the point, it's like the reason I haven't totally left the Catholic Church is because they need not necessarily people like me, but they need progressive, conscious people to realize, listen, this ain't right, man. This ain't yeah, no. Scarface right here, man. Well, me's not fucking business.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

I'm the bad guy.

SPEAKER_04 17:56

I'm the bad guy. Well, that's why I'm the bad guy.

SPEAKER_06 17:59

They didn't let you leave, you said what?

SPEAKER_04 18:00

No, because I I just don't agree with everything. In in an institution that When did you stop going? I would say about maybe After you got going. You started. Well, I still go once in a while. You just went like two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, because uh we we do Did you tell them how you felt? Absolutely. I do. Yes, I do. And a lot I lost a lot of friends, but you know what? Fuck it, man. You're gonna base my friendship based on religion on on a certain mindset that you want me to be. Fuck you gotta I'm not gonna be fake, you know. Uh but but my my we still go you still consider yourself Catholic? Yes, and this is what this is where I'm trying to get to. Practice. I practice in classic because I don't know understand it correctly.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

If I do you practice, I purchase.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

That is well said, Jose. But you know what?

SPEAKER_06 18:50

It is a uh a brain mindset. Like I I was born to it and I went, so they made me go to the young, what is it, the young kids junk on Friday nights and all that stuff, which I enjoyed. Yeah. And then I kept going. And but I I remember when I was young and still developing the mind, it was good for me. Because it made me fear from I gotta say 10 Santa Maria, you know what I mean? Guilt-driven behavior, yeah, yeah. So it is. And then when my kids were born, I'm like, we were going to church every Sunday to get them to get the first communion, like confirmación, and all that stuff. But once they finished, I stopped going. Yeah. I'm like, all right, I did my job. So it feels like a job that you have to do for your kids because it felt like it was a job for your parents.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

It's if it it does it's a it's a sacrament, disguise, and a moral obligation.

SPEAKER_06 19:40

But I think you know what, I think what you're gonna do, you wanna give your kids of what you felt like I did help. I think it did keep me out of some problems, out of the fear. Like you said, that's deep.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

I'll do you I'll give you this. It gives you structure. Structure. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good thing, bad thing. Doesn't matter, it depends how we apply it in life, right? But I just can't live my life just based on fear because I'm gonna go to hell. Fuck that. I'm uh I'm ACDC, I'm on the highway to hell, I don't care.

SPEAKER_06 20:03

And the bad thing is when you go to church sometimes and you see all these dudes talking all that stuff, and you know them outside of church.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

It's so fake, man, and it's so cringy to me. And and I I can't do it. I don't I don't really care, dude. I'll be honest with you. It seems like you care.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

It seems like you can I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Yes, because I don't want my my kids to go through that season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my especially my son who's really aware of what's going on.

SPEAKER_06 20:28

Did you make your kids go to church when they were young?

SPEAKER_04 20:30

No. You didn't still no seven is the youngest, ten, and then almost twelve. So uh then I have a stepdaughter who's a teacher. She she that's a whole nother religious thing too, as well. She's backed up completely. Yeah. I'm not she's not atheist, but but she's separating religion.

SPEAKER_06 20:49

I mean, the bad thing is that we know religion, I mean, it's become a business, which is hard, man.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

It is There I say it's become a cult to a certain point.

SPEAKER_06 20:58

If you allow yourself to let it be a cult.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Yeah, and a lot of people do, Ale, and they don't they can't, and it's not to me to say them. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 21:04

But there's some people that do really well with it. I have some friends that are like really religious and they're phenomenal people. You know, but that's who they I I think you don't have to look at a person as their religion, you have to look at that person as that person.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

Now you have to believe if they allow you.

SPEAKER_06 21:17

But some of them get overtaken by it where that's the only thing they can think is the religion. That's when it becomes uh it's rough.

SPEAKER_04 21:23

And one of my points is is that um see, they're so engraved in religion that it convinced our own people, and I'm not talking about you, Jose. Uh convince our own people to vote, Jose to vote. No, no, no, because he's not a religious, he's more like me. We're a lot more in common than you think, dude.

SPEAKER_06 21:38

Last week I were like that. I'm so throwed off right now, brother.

SPEAKER_04 21:43

One thing uh this is real talk. Admired by him, he's he's kind of a rebel, which is uh I love that, dude. I I rebel against like fuck you, I'm not gonna I'll I'll figure it out myself. It's not an ego thing, it's just it just doesn't make any sense. Mm hmm, right? It's almost like top nutch mental mental love, right? Yeah, yeah, you have to think. Yeah, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_07 22:03

But um I just want to be on his bad as I didn't. Let's let's go to the replay. Do exactly what you guys did. Do it, do it. Do it. What's that do a kid in the middle for?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

You were like this, you were like this.

SPEAKER_07 22:29

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

That's what I have to say about your speech right now.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

But yeah, yeah. Okay, too. And it it became really prominent or really uh disturbing enough.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Disturbing, right? Wind I was asking if you wanted to play dice.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

They don't want to let you let this out, bro. I'm listening, man. Yeah. I realized that I hate to say that I I was right, but it kind of supported my argument that religion is so engraved in you that you don't know that you're in there that it may convince you to vote against your own people. You you know what I'm talking about now? No, man. Hold on. I have a lot of friends. A lot of people again, I'm not talking about him. No, no, no. You guys, no, no, I I I completely stand. This is why we're here. This is why I've never left. No, no, we're you're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_08 23:27

Because you voted right?

SPEAKER_04 23:28

No, no, it's not that. They they they refuse to combine, they refuse to have their religion think for themselves. Or for them, I should say. True. He's an independent thinker. He's he's extremely smart. Carlos over here, he's extremely consistent. This guy's a rebel. So yeah, I I can tell by the way he sits on that sofa he's a rebel. So so yeah, there's magic. And and and I just overheard you said that you have your own family members that voted a certain way, right?

SPEAKER_06 24:01

I have one, yeah, the white one in the family. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:04

Well, yeah, that kind of me.

SPEAKER_06 24:05

Nah, that's you know what it is. I think she was thinking like most people, like they were gonna make the comment. You know what? Because they got a lot of money back during the taxes time where he was, so that's all they were thinking, just being selfish about it. Yeah, yeah. Which is which is nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_04 24:19

I mean that aspect I can't understand.

SPEAKER_06 24:21

But you know what's crazy? All the other precedents before this dude were also attacking immigrants the whole time, but this dude's so vocal and cocky about it and in your face about it, which is what a lot of uh, you know, the southern and central USA think. He was able to exploit those. He was able to yeah, the ones that he was able to exploit that anger.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Yes, dude. What's more possible?

SPEAKER_06 24:43

Which is India because you know, nobody wants anybody coming into their land and taking orbiting more, you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Like even like I said, when I lived in Mississippi, like uh, you know, nobody wants other people from another country to come and take this land, huh? Where do we have it? How around they go.

SPEAKER_06 24:58

But it's like I said, even when I lived in Mississippi, when I got to know the Mexicans there and became that little circle, all of them love going there and eating and getting the discounts, especially the officers. But outside of the restaurant, it was rough for them to talk good about them. But when they're in that restaurant, they were talking real good because they had flavor. You know what I mean? They had a different type of food, and it was just, you know, they want you for what they need you, and then when they don't, they could shit on you all you want. You know, you can go dead into anything, into farming, into like me being uh an educator. I'm just a number, man. One of three that can speak Spanish. Yeah, I'm like one of three that speak Spanish in the whole school. And our school's like 50% Hispanics. Love me. I mean, I earn my reputation there, so I'm good. They they truly do care for me and love me. But you know you could also the fact that you can be used for what they need you is a huge, you know, it's like any job. It's an advantage, it's an advantage. Yeah, you know, everybody gets the most out of you while they can, and it's just that's life and anything, bro. You get juiced out as much as you can. With coaching, it goes into coaching, it's everything, dude. Yeah, juice.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

That's uh that's another fascinating thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

That's why you quit your job and go do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_04 26:09

Tony talks with talks, man. Isn't that where you're just what he did? That's what he's fucking doing, dude. They and I admire that from him. But it's dangerous, you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Yeah, I gotta wait a little bit longer. Need destability, it's rough. Gotta wait a couple more months. Yeah, yeah. But, anyways, the close of religion stuff out. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't go ahead. I just wanna say that we're not me, like your trauma or whatever, it's your trauma. And I support you. The only thing that I do not support is when you're spewing out nonsense that's not even true or right, especially Mr. why they dress in Native American here and in Mexico, they're dressed in dress. It doesn't matter what they're dressed into.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

To quote the JJ when you start chasing a squirrel.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

It's just they're doing the danza, that's it. No matter what they're dressed in, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Don't let it not go down that rabbit hole. Okay. No, you're the one that were trying to make a hole that wasn't. No, I was just wondering. Just like this guy over here, he's thinking, he's like, why is it this the first time I ever seen them dance like Native Americans out here? While over there in Mexico, they wear like the regular uh Mexican clothes, like the don't what was his name? Don Juan or Don Julio, whatever the guy is that Don Traditional Juan Diego Juan Diego, yeah. Traditional dress. They wear that kind of clothes. Like the Indian Maria? Yeah, they wear that clothes. That's what my thing was like. Juan Diego. I was it was an honest question. It's like, yo, why are why are these guys dressed up like they're doing an Indian dance here for the rain and shit like that when they didn't do that shit in Mexico? But it doesn't matter. But is the thing? But it's it is here. Yeah, here's what they do here in Woman. But it is but that that was that was my thing. I just want to know why it is so different.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

I think it has a lot to do with that particular town or where you're at, where the person came from, and then they bring it here because that's what they saw.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

Yeah, but where they saw the Virgin Mary. Allegedly. I didn't say that. He said that he said that. But where they saw the Virgin Mary, they they didn't they weren't dressed up as Native Americans. They the guy that watched her and saw her was not uh freaking yeah, he's a Native American, but he wasn't wearing Native American clothes. He wasn't dressed with feathers and shit like that. Oh, wasn't it only the Warriors that dressed with feathers? Yeah. Yeah, it was the Warriors. They're not the ones that saw her. They're not the they were actually not even the ones that liked her. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

But oh But that that's my thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Like, so why are we doing that here? Because it everything gets lost in history. Well, let's fix that.

SPEAKER_06 28:53

And I think you also want to overdo it to show pride and to to let them know what you represent.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Even if you're overdoing it, you kind of matter what they're dressed in. It has it does matter what you're doing.

SPEAKER_06 29:05

No, it's the say that to my dad. He used to hey, did I never wore boots?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yeah, no, no, no, it's not as long as they do the danza. Which is what matters.

SPEAKER_06 29:14

Yeah, but you can still do the dance. Okay, okay. Yeah, but the dance looks better when you have the clothes. Yeah. You've seen somebody do the danza without with regular.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Because they'll just say anybody else, not us or anybody else, just comes by and saw sees that. The first thing they're gonna think is like, oh look, they're doing a rain dance. You're gonna be ignorant. No, but that's the thing, though. I can tell you that's the thing. People are ignorant like that. They're gonna be like, they're gonna be like, oh, look, they're doing a rain dance.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

It takes an outsider to recognize one, right? Basically, he's thinking outside the box, man. I know it's it's gonna be harder to give him an answer, but it's not a look inside.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

No, I mean that that's why to me it was like I never seen that. You are the rebel guy. Not saying that it's wrong what they're doing, I guess that's their version. Who's great? Keep doing it, but it was just me asking, like, why is it different than the other one over there? It's like, yo, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

But anywhere in Mexico is gonna be they're gonna be dressed different. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

But most of them are dressed as heck, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But most of them are dressed like you know, like the the um guy. I forget his name, man. Well, he just had the big old white cloth, the white. Yeah, most of them are because when I went to Mexico and Monterrey, not Monterrey, but in Nuevo Leon, they would use the other clothes, like the the Indian clothes you want to call it. The regular clothes, yeah. Not not Indian like Aztecs or Mayans, but it was just like, hey, it's just like India Maria clothes type of shit like that. If traditional clothing, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Traditional Mexican clothing.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

It's like you look at it here, people that wear, you know, that are big political or big, if you wear a shirt and a tie and a suit, they look at you differently. They think you're, you know, oh you're a regular clothes thing.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

That that's the only thing not saying that's I I don't know what the issue was with me just asking.

SPEAKER_04 30:55

Like I said, I I didn't have an issue. These guys were like, these two guys fighting against the case. Go back in this situation. I never questioned his his.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

I don't think I had an issue with it as much as I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

You're the one who said he was going down a rabbit hole. You saying that I didn't say that.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

No, no, no. I just said that he was going down a rabbit hole that didn't. It wasn't exist.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

No, the rabbit hole. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

All right. Let me explain. Let me explain really quick. Let me let me explain where where I'm coming from. Uh um, we all know how Spanish got to Mexico, right? Yeah, well, no, no, no. But let me set it up so he can understand. He's an educator, he understands that. He's probably gonna educate us. It's history, yeah. Santa Maria and the Spaniard came to Jamaica really similar to St. Augustine, right? If you want to understand the transition from Spanish to or from the Mexican tribe to the Spaniard, you should also study Saint Augustine, right? Because it's pretty much the same thing. Well, my thing is that uh they brought the faith over here and never got here peacefully. Like, I I don't buy the fact that oh the Virgin Mary appeared there conveniently when the Spaniards come here. Like, no, they killed these Indians, the tribe. They convinced them that the Virgin Mary appeared there. Don't give me this bullshit that she appeared there. No, no, no, no. That doesn't mean I don't believe in her. I do believe in Jesus Christ. I do. That's that's who I worship, you know, in my life, guys. Trinity. My private, I don't push those beliefs on nobody. That's the nonsense they're talking about. But go ahead, we're not pushing no beliefs on nobody, we're just you're not that's right. That's the nonsense they're labeling, I guess. Damn.

SPEAKER_06 32:32

But that that's deep if you really think about it, because the natives they didn't have. They didn't, man. They did not, and they had in the land. Which is why I'm like, why you believe in the land too.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Which I'm like, why are these Native Americans dancing for somebody that they didn't believe in?

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Because they were I'll go back, they were convinced either you dance for them or you get killed. Whether the Catholic Church wants to admit that or not, this is why I said that.

SPEAKER_06 32:55

Well, it's the same thing that's happened in Africa when they went over there. You have parts of North Africa that are Muslim, other parts are Christian, others say Catholic because and they kill for that, bro. They literally kill. I mean, even in religion, as beautiful as it is, is also deadly more.

SPEAKER_04 33:12

It's yeah, go ahead, Tony. You're gonna say something.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

No, I was just pointing out this is the Trinity you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 33:19

I will say we brought it up. No, no, no, no. No, yeah, but that's the thing. You have to believe in the truth. That doesn't mean I don't believe in the Virgin Mary. I have my rosary, I pray to her. I do believe that that is Jesus Christ Christ's mother.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Let me okay. You seen the one in Clearwater?

SPEAKER_04 33:34

Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

That's American. He said he went there, saw it, touched it, he believes in it.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

Because it's tangible. Okay, nobody died. Nobody died. That's the main difference. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Did you just hear what he said? No one died, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:52

She appeared there, nobody died.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

She appeared in Mexico way before the Spaniards got there. No, no, that's incorrect.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

No, it's after.

SPEAKER_04 34:04

That's after. After it was like. It was conveniently after. I think it was 50 or 30 years. The Catholics brought the religion.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

30 years after? 30 or something like that. Oh, you mean before? No, no, no. It was after. It was after.

SPEAKER_04 34:20

That's what the problem is. The Aztecs were after they appeared, right? Yes. Okay, so they were already killed. No, no, no. They're still there. The Aztecs are still there.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

No, Aztecs are gone, man.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

No, no, no. There's some fool blooded Aztecs. Okay. Like me. But you're saying that no one got killed.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Yeah, no, no. Yeah, no one got killed here. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

At the time that she appeared, did they get killed?

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Here in Clearwater, no, not even a kid. No, no, no, no. We're talking about Mexico. Yes, they almost wiped out the entire civilization. Before and after? Before once they got there. So it's before she appeared. No, no, no. She appeared afterwards. They didn't come here because the Virgin Mary appeared here. No, you got your you got that twisted.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

No, Carlos is saying that before they died and then after she showed up.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

They killed a lot of Indians. Yeah. Before she even apparently Before she appeared. Before she even appeared.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Okay. But when she appeared, they had already been killed. That's what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Conveniently, they because they needed transitions. They needed to represent the Catholic Church as a whole movement. You think, yes. But Juan Diego. I don't think it's a think. It's a fact. I don't think there's no debating that. Okay, okay, but let's go back next to the screen.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead. So, Juan Diego, you're saying Juan Diego's cloak, what is that? It's just it's fake then? That's according to the Spaniards. What do you mean according to the Spaniards? That's not according to the Spaniards?

SPEAKER_04 35:49

Yes, it is. That's where the story comes from.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

No.

SPEAKER_04 35:51

No, it does not. It does not come from the Native American uh Native Mexicans. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 35:56

You can say Native Americans because it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Whatchamacallit? They that's how the name came from Guadalupe because that's a town in Spain.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

Well, yeah, they they brought all those Spaniards maybe even Monterrey and all that.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Actually, Monterrey's because of the Virgin Mary told him to go talk to the priest to let the priest know of the El Nombre de Guadalupe because he's talking about because there's a Virgin Mary.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Because other than that, he won't even know. He wouldn't believe him. There would no one would believe him. Go go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

And everybody was like, why how does how this guy know that name how how does he know this town? Nobody knows this goddamn town out there in Spain, especially this Indian guy kid here.

SPEAKER_06 36:39

Well, the main thing that we I feel that we have to be honest with, and I know it's hard, especially if you're super religious, that religion is used to control. Correct. So for you to believe in whatever they want you to believe. Correct. To keep you under control. Yeah, it could be a good idea. Because if you're respectful, yeah, so you I mean, how many did they kill because of it? If you go back into any history, whenever the religion got started, there was a lot of death. Even before the death, not just Catholic, that's just religion.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

Well, look at what's going on defending Israel. Yeah. This world wouldn't have started with Iran. So it still happened. It's too rare.

SPEAKER_06 37:13

No, of course. It still happens everywhere. Like we're killing with words. You know what I mean? They're actually killing. But I mean, it depends. I just I respect religion, and we all I think love and need religion to a point to keep you focused. I mean, just being too free-minded, we go back into the days where it can be real rough. So I think religion is a very powerful tool, man.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

If it's used the right way, you know.

SPEAKER_06 37:38

But whenever it's it doesn't ever it starts the right way, but then if you don't believe, what do they do to you? They push you away out of the city, out of the town, they kill you.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

I never left the church, the church left me. That that's how I look at it. You know what? But because they don't want they don't want free thinking uh individuals.

SPEAKER_06 37:55

I think they want free thinking to a point where they can control you, but when you speak against what they believe, they won't How about questioning?

SPEAKER_04 38:01

I question. And that's when I get that pushback. And I'm like, if if an institution is not willing to say that they were wrong, it scares the shit out of me. Not to one.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

Are you trying to compare the church to Donald Trump?

SPEAKER_04 38:14

No, no, no. No, that's a whole different I can't remember a time where the Catholic Church said we messed up, this was wrong. Can accept that they're wrong. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Is that what you're trying to say?

SPEAKER_04 38:24

And and it takes progressive thinkers He is a progressive thinker, such as myself, not to leave the church so that it can move forward. This is why I don't completely detach myself.

SPEAKER_06 38:35

Well, I think as as you as you're one with yourself where you you can positively and openly hear someone's fact, but can they take your facts? Like I think I'm really open. Like I can hear everything you're saying and understand it, but like you said, I can question certain things. Yeah. But you have I I think it's rough for me when someone that's super religious can be open about facts. Open-minded, yeah. Open-minded about facts. Yes, you can be super religious on what you believe, but are you super religious to where you're close-minded to let someone argue facts? And can you accept it? Like you have to be honest with yourself. And it's har I I kind of stop talking to people when I can't tell, I can tell they're not truly listening to a question, like you say, and I just leave that junk alone because there's no changing. Right. Like you are, you there's no changing. You they got you, you believe that much in it to where you can't hear nothing else, and I'm cool with it. And I just the problem push it off.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

They won't be cool because eventually your personality.

SPEAKER_06 39:30

It depends on some people are mature, which is why.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

By they do you mean these two? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 39:36

Again, I go back. This is why we're here, because we we talk about everything.

SPEAKER_06 39:40

No, these two are seated real low. I'm not listening to it.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Tony, what's uh what's open-minded again? I define it as just listening to what a person says and you be able to gleam who what they mean and who they are based on what they're telling you. And when they're telling you who they are, believe them when they tell you.

SPEAKER_06 39:58

Oh, that was deep right there.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

Yeah, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

When they tell you who they are, but I mean, to me, like religion it's on the person, right? It's on the individual, man. It's on a person. Whenever it's their time to they'll look at it and you know, oh maybe I was wrong. But my issue is that sometimes when they're saying something and then it's not right, is that's when it becomes an issue because you're saying something that's that's not what something that they were taught and they fully were you don't want to say brainwash, but that they believe.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

That's interesting. So um what if you encounter a Mormon? They're saying is that they don't believe in the Catholic Church. That's fine, they have their own beliefs. That's that's when you have an issue.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

No, no, no, no. Yeah, but I don't I don't think the Mormons will come and try to make you have an issue. It's not they could do it's when you're when you're talking, they could believe whatever they want. How about the Jehovah's Witness, which is completely I was I wasn't a Jehovah's Witness unlike this guy, but I went to their stuff. Financial reasons for Jose and I financial reasons Jose and I went got that's how I learned how to read in Spanish. They would come to the house and they would teach us the the Bible and we would read in Spanish. That's how I learned how to read in Spanish. The but the atalay is not traumatized and uh we would read it, and it's nice, you know.

SPEAKER_06 41:26

Yeah, they're actually nice people, yeah. They're all humans, so no matter what they believe in.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

Yeah, and that's they I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

I don't know. I just I have more respect for somebody uh who does that instead of a talking salamander.

SPEAKER_06 41:41

You know what? But I actually I actually respect the people that are truly fully religious. That takes a lot of strife. Oh, yeah. So follow any religion, or at least they try to the hardest, I that's that's hard, dude.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

And I do as well, but I applied that uh that into like I respect someone who's extremely talented in music. That's their religion. Extremely talented in real estate.

SPEAKER_06 42:04

Well, that's what religion is.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

That is you you invested so much time and effort in it. That's the dude.

SPEAKER_06 42:10

You know what we need to make a religion your family, bro? Like, work hard on your family. Like, that's like you know, that's my point. That's me. I mean, I I'm like I'm barely I'm really religious, especially as I got older to fully focus on my family. Like, that's my religion, bro.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Like this is this is where I say is that uh I'm less religious, I'm more spiritual now. And I got closer to Jesus, the further away from religion, if that makes sense. Um and so time invested in my family, dude. It's it's no there's no substitution. Yeah, and I credit the religion uh to keeping families together, absolutely, for helping immigrants coming over, for helping the the needy, because without uh, I think Tony and I, you you and I can relate to this. We didn't have food, man. The Bethel Church was our only source for food, man. Yeah, so I gotta I gotta see that as well. So I'm not gonna, you know, they they they're out there in the community. Everything was what was our favorite saying? Stale cereal is better than no cereal, than no cereal, yeah. Absolutely, man. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

So, Tony, man. You you flew in a fucking plane when you were three years old. I don't want to fucking hear it.

SPEAKER_04 43:16

That is true. No, that Tony was high high roller since uh getting landing here, right?

SPEAKER_00 43:21

It was from Seattle to Miami. That's a long flight. I had a drive from Texas to New York.

SPEAKER_03 43:28

This is when, this is when what years was this like in the 70s? Uh 80s.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Uh probably like 1980. 1980, all right? You can still smoke in the airplane.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

Back then you had to wear what when you go on a plane? You had to wear suits? No, that was nice and dry. No, that was still in the 80s. No, it's in the 60s. In the 80s, you still know I wasn't on the plane. Home alone. When did Home Alone came out?

SPEAKER_06 43:51

That's just shirt in 90s. Shirts and ties like that during that time.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_06 43:59

Hold up, it was. Mandatory? I didn't know. That was blue like this. Because you had to have bread. So you could have to be able to do it. Yeah, it's bread.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

50s and 60s is when that was.

SPEAKER_03 44:09

All I know is that I couldn't afford. I couldn't afford to go on a plane.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

That just sounds like a fucking hater.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Right? No, but this is my point. Damn. Mr. Filipino over here. Okay, so we could say that you had money to do all this stuff because you we still don't know who you are, man. We don't know who who you truly are.

SPEAKER_06 44:31

And I mean, be proud to be Filipino, bruh. I wish I were, but I'm not.

SPEAKER_08 44:38

We don't know.

SPEAKER_07 44:39

We don't know who you are. We're trying to make it like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 44:42

Tony Loki has a massive. I like how he represents the Mexican culture, man. Loki. He don't talk talk. He lives it, dude. That's what's up. Hell yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Flying private jets.

SPEAKER_06 44:54

That's a real Mexican right there.

SPEAKER_04 44:55

Right there, man.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Baller, bro.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Baller's on a butcher. What did Tony Dungeys? You know Tony Dungey is? What is he? You know who had the colour? I love this phrase. He said, silent strength. Yeah. That's what this guy said. And he definitely showed it. Yeah. He shut up and work and let's go.

SPEAKER_06 45:12

Yeah. To make it out here.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

Yeah, I think in those times they'd give you like meals in the plane, too. So there are no give you meals now. They're just not very good. Yeah. And you gotta pay for the meals. You gotta pay for water even now.

SPEAKER_04 45:26

Oh, did you guys hear about the spirit air?

SPEAKER_06 45:28

Yeah, actually, I had one of my daughter's friends came here. I think Tony sent it. Yeah, came here on Spirit on Friday. It was supposed to fly out today on Sunday.

SPEAKER_05 45:37

Not today.

SPEAKER_06 45:38

And they canceled her flight yesterday, dude. Damn. And I was like, so what they're like, nah, they just canceled it. Nothing. There's no you're just canceled. Damn. Yeah. So she's got to find another way.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

It's funny because I saw I run the wire page and I intentionally kept things separate. And I get right wing propaganda on one side, and on the other side, I get left wing propaganda. Same story, each one blaming the other side.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

That's interesting, man.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

So it was really interesting. It's like, oh that's really kind of neat that you see, like in real time, you see the algorithm feeding what you want to be fed.

SPEAKER_06 46:27

That's like the whole CNN and Fox thing when you get into I think two sides. The same story, but I'll watch both sides and I'm like, damn, they really twisted to for their followers because they want to keep their followers and money just. Two totally different twists to it, bruh. It's like right titty, left titty is like completely different. One has powder and the other one shoots milk. Like it's the craziest thing. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 46:56

Craziest thing. What's what what what was the um uh the main reason was uh guess the fuel prices, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:03

Well, the one back in the that when they blamed Biden was because they didn't let them merge with Jet Blue because of Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, and they were blaming them, but that was Biden's failed policies, and then the new one was blaming Trump for the fuel costs, and that's why they couldn't keep up. And my response to that story, both stories was what about their shitty customer service? That probably didn't help at all either.

SPEAKER_06 47:33

Oh, yeah, everybody knows Spirit.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

They they said Trump tried to get them that uh money, but but it was turned down by um by the stock market or the stockholders and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

Okay, it was but the market between Frontier and Spirit, I mean they're both just terrible customer service. Which brings me to my next point, which really is irritating the bejesus out of me, and that is AI. Um when I'm talking about the AI is when when you when you call someplace, what happens?

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:07

Oh my gosh, and you can't get through a live person.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

Hey, do you prefer that over the Indians from I ordered a freaking pizza?

SPEAKER_04 48:16

I'm gonna stay out of this one because I might get in trouble.

SPEAKER_06 48:19

I ordered a pizza lack Saturday. Oh, under highways, right? No, dominoes. And it started with an AI question, and then when I got all right, you're not gonna get a person. It was somebody in India to order a pizza that was down the block.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Yeah, I called it.

SPEAKER_06 48:34

And then the person put in the wrong order and did it twice, and they're like, uh, I'm I'm not gonna say that they're actually almost 7-Eleven. It's like, damn, I stopped myself culture, you know. So then I'm like, we're gonna the simple. She said it just like this we're gonna swap you over to the actual company in your area. So then I dare not talk to a person, like, yeah, they put the order. And in my head, I'm like, yo, why was I calling India for a per like how are they saving money when the call is right? Like, that was the craziest thing to me.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

I I noticed that also, and the person who always answers the phone is like, ah, this is Brendan. I like, I know this is not Brendan. Yeah, I can hear it in your voice, your name is sound. I can hear it in your voice, your name, your name is not Brendan.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

But he knows because he's not who he's the bullshitter, right?

SPEAKER_06 49:22

No, but how many Mexicans have American names? Like, no, he could be Brandon. He wasn't. He wasn't, he was not Brendan. What does a Brendan look like, sir?

SPEAKER_00 49:31

Uh I like uh he sounded but uh you sure it wasn't a Brian? No, well, Brian. Well, depending on what part of Mexico, Brian can be spelled. Yeah, it's a little bit different. How do they say how does it not Brian Brian? Brian? Brian. All right, but uh in Monterrey, chingo I I talked, I was on the phone, I was just trying to get through to somebody. Uh and I was so effing irritated because I couldn't talk to somebody who can resolve this issue in less than three minutes, but I could because I have to go through all these voice prompts and they tell you, and then it goes in circles, right? It goes in circles. Well, you would you like to talk to your live person? Yes, why am I hit zero? No, that's not a valid entry. Oh one, no, that's not a valid entry. Nine, that's not a valid entry. Well, what's my option? Yeah, I tried that one too, it didn't work either. Uh and then you just go and then he always it just says, Oh, please call back later on. Like, oh my god, here we go again.

SPEAKER_03 50:38

You gotta click the uh do you want to speak to a Spanish representative? I've tried that's that option, bro.

SPEAKER_06 50:44

That's it's an option. Isn't it from Spain? A Spanish person from Spain? No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

They'll get somebody from Mexico speaking, and then you'll be able to actually talk to somebody. But uh in this case, I forgot which one.

SPEAKER_06 50:55

Mexicans don't do that job.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

No, man, it's it was it was rough.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

It's just Americans going well, it's all the people that got deported, they're over there in Mexico working as the phone people. I mean, it's not all. You're right.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

They speak English. Do you know why they they do that? Because they don't get picked up. You know why they they outsource they got picked up. No, they pay dollars.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

They play dollars, man.

SPEAKER_04 51:15

Well, yeah, one of them, yeah, because uh yeah, you're you're that's stupid if you don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

If you're out there and you got deported, you have a job online customer service right now. Oh, yeah, you could make yeah, you make some money.

SPEAKER_06 51:25

You make money right now in dollars? In dollars.

SPEAKER_04 51:28

Here in the US, if you're a union, you get your your pay scale goes higher. It's next to your bilingual.

SPEAKER_02 51:35

Have you ever had a car job?

SPEAKER_04 51:36

That's what at least in my job. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

Have you ever had one of those when you're in those cars and you're there and you're just waiting and waiting and waiting until it just hangs up by itself? Oh, yeah, your terminal hole pisses me off. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 51:51

This AI junk is crazy, it's real dangerous, man. But they're so helpful though.

SPEAKER_04 51:56

The cool thing nowadays is it well, we all have iPhones here, right? Except for someone, no? Oh, Tamara.

SPEAKER_06 52:03

Damn right. You're not hell no. I'm not I'm not trying to be forced to buy like that's the only reason why I don't do it. Yeah, they're like, oh, you're not I've no, like like I'm lower class. Well, you know what? I want to stay down there. Like, I don't know respect that. I don't want to be I don't want to, I don't want to be pushed. It's not that better. It's it's the same thing. It's the same, it's a phone. What's the difference? It's a phone. How is it better? It's better, man. You just see they got you, see, you're you're branded washed into that religion, sir.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

How is it better? Tell me about your iPhone. The phone is about the same. The only thing is it's got my pattern. The software is being pushed on me as an appraiser, but I don't want I don't want it because I just want a phone that works.

SPEAKER_06 52:47

I can tell you why. iPhones work perfect because 1500, my 200 does the same thing your 1500 does. Mac is not compatible to the other. That's if you buy the brand. Other than Mac.

SPEAKER_04 52:57

That's why. Linux, Windows, or not Windows, but uh the um I think they're all they're all uh lens it themselves to other devices that are compatible is way higher than Mac. But Mac just stays with Mac, and there's a huge safety benefit to it. Yeah, less hacking. Less the same thing. Yeah, and if you try watch a lot of true crime shows, I don't know if you guys I'm a huge true crime fan. Well, you have a criminology degree. Um when it comes to solving cases, they hate the iPhone because Apple will not release anything. No digital footprint.

SPEAKER_06 53:34

So all criminals. So you're saying criminals should get the iPhones because you can read stuff. Yeah, yeah. I'm no criminal, sir. I'm a good wholesome citizen.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

I'm not a word of the United States of America. So yeah, yeah. Apple will not, or Mac will not.

SPEAKER_06 53:49

So I just don't like how they try to push it on you. Like you have like they're pretty much like even in schools, like they hear the phone ring and they're like, ah, who's got an Android?

SPEAKER_07 53:59

The kids laugh. Who's got an Android? I'm like, shut up, man. I'm like, I'm not sure. I do both.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

I do both work and and work is Android. Okay, it goes both ways. Oh, that's a lot about it. You see how you want to go deeper into that conversation?

SPEAKER_06 54:13

You brought it up, so you go both ways. Continue. No, but I mean I mean for with the phones, it's like they're really trying to force it on you. Like you're being bullied into it. You, you're just making fun of me, sir, for having an Android. Did you not? I do have an Android. I I do have an Android.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:27

It's a fact.

SPEAKER_07 54:28

It's a fact. I don't know what's happening right now.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

You're just messing with these other things.

SPEAKER_07 54:35

I'm on an iPhone now. Like, what's happening here, bro?

SPEAKER_00 54:38

Uh I just I I've used all the phone all these all the phones and I I don't like the ecosystem, so I prefer just using uh a Samsung just because it works better for me. And it just I just enjoy the experience. I've been doing it for you know 20 years.

SPEAKER_06 54:55

You know what's you know what's real sad is really because I don't know which button does what. Like when a kid's like, here, oh my kids will be like, here, oh, take a picture. I'm like, all right, how do I get to the camera? Or how do I forget that so that like forget it. Even if it's something so simple, it'll take me five minutes to learn. Oh, this is how you go back, or this is how you put the picture. Oh and it but it's like people when I tell them to take a picture of me and my wife, you were with my family, where they're like, oh, how do you I have to have it on the camera already? Nobody knows how to use those. Not nobody, sir. Nothing. Except that guy right there. Thank you, sir. So you see.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

Wait, wait, is yours a Samsung or a different mine's a cheap one, bro?

SPEAKER_06 55:26

I don't know. He wouldn't know either.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Because he only knows Samsung.

SPEAKER_06 55:30

Oh. I don't know what it is. It's the same, it's Linux.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Yeah, I just for a camera, I just go. I think it's LG actually. I just go like 20 times like this. All these widgets I gotta go through. Really? You've been brainwashed.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Yeah, I just switch-click this button right here. And mine just goes longer. If I double tap it on the and it does it, it comes to camera, comes on.

SPEAKER_04 55:55

Will you double tapping Carlos?

SPEAKER_08 55:56

Oh, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Here we go again. Which brings me to my next point. What about these people who move down here? Why do they leave their brains up up north?

unknown 56:07

Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 56:08

Yeah, we got some dumb drivers out there, man. My God, dude.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

You know what I want when I'm on the road? Predictability, right? That's all I want.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

Man, there's none here.

SPEAKER_00 56:19

The I was driving even before they came. Friday. When I was driving, whatever. We have our quota of stupid people already here, okay? We've already met that. Hey. Don't leave your brains up wherever you came from and move here. Remember, no, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Remember that they didn't vote for marrying your first cousin.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

That explains a lot.

SPEAKER_02 56:43

So let's not blame it. But some of the people come in from the north.

SPEAKER_06 56:48

You know what? A lot of people from the north don't really, a lot of them don't drive. They have different transportation, so it's less practice. Those are the ones that come from the city.

SPEAKER_04 56:54

That's the thing. We don't have mass transit here. We don't. Right.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

No, you have to learn how to drive. But you have to learn how to eat. Hey, you leave you need to know the damn rules of the road. I was traveling south, pulling a trailer with my mower, and I'm in front of a huge development down on 301, and I see a bus. It's in this wide meeting. It's just waiting to get into traffic. You know 674?

SPEAKER_04 57:21

I mean 672?

SPEAKER_00 57:22

No, 301. So in front of uh Barry Bay. You know how that really, really wide. Okay, that's a really wide median where people just wait there and you know, because traffic is if it goes one way, then you can't get in this way. So people get in the middle and wait for their turn to get in. There's a school bus there. No lights on, nothing's on. The lady the bus driver is just waiting until it clears on the right so she can he or she can take off. You don't believe this dumbass bitch decides to stop in the middle of the fucking road to be courteous and let the bus in. Listen here, bitch. I'm not expecting the to be stopping because the lights on the bus are not on. I don't expect somebody to stop in the middle of the fucking road. I'm doing 55 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_06 58:11

So you hate kindness. That person was trying to be kind.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Fuck kindness. I'm waiting I want productions, I want predictability, okay? Follow the fucking rules of the road. And if you don't, it's a dangerous interface.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

It was already dangerous as it was before.

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Why couldn't you predict that she was gonna stop?

SPEAKER_00 58:27

You didn't see her license plate? It wasn't floored. I was it no, it wasn't even that. I was behind three other cars that almost hit her.

SPEAKER_06 58:35

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Nah, but for real, and I don't know. I had I was in my house the same thing right in front of it. Uh I was behind the bus. It was going pretty slow. I wanted to pass it, but then there were too many cars coming, right? But I already knew it was gonna stop right in front of the community. And the car's coming towards us, there's a van, and I'm like, yo, this thing's stopping. Where are you supposed to stop? Like, if you're if you're the bus is going this way and the car's coming this way, like once the bus stops and you're coming towards the bus, where are you supposed to stop? Before the bus. Before the bus, right? Yeah. This motherfucker stopped right where the thing, the stop side came out.

SPEAKER_06 59:17

Oh shit. You had a couple kids on that. It also depends on how wide the lays are. Sometimes you don't even have to stop.

SPEAKER_02 59:23

No, it's not it's not it was the two-way interest.

SPEAKER_03 59:28

My thing is here in Florida, I I don't I yeah, maybe some people from the north, but I think when I got here, I I seen a lot of fucking retarded ass drivers here in Florida that are from Florida. Yeah. Because you take the driver test that we had upstate New York, again, upstate New York, not New York City, compared to the driving test they have here that's in the back of the fucking building, compared to where we had it. We actually had a drive around the town. Yeah. Real in the snow or wherever it was with real people. Here, it's like, oh, look, there's a cone here, a cone there. Come on, man. And then the Where'd you check your license around here in Florida? Because I had to go on the road. Where? When was this?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:08

I think it depends on the city and uh every city has been.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

No, I before we used to just. But that was how long ago?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

That was a while ago, but then 50 years ago. No mom is way.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

How long was yours, Jose? When did you get yours here? I never got mine here. Then who got a bigger one? You don't have a Florida license. No, I got a New York license. Jose and Haley. Oh, the one you're talking about the one on Hillsbury. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do you not have a Florida license? No, I didn't give you asked me when did I get my driver's license here? Like took the test. That's what I was talking about. You have a Florida license. I never took a test. I took mine over there in New York. All right. Which is way harder than it is here. And then another thing is like when I bit I have every time I see people not they don't use blinkers here. I do. That's optional. No, and it's not optional. I know. He's the body is stopping about the road. Then it's absolutely how stupid Florida is.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:07

My stop sign is submerged.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

This is how stupid it is. I like again over there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

Hey, listen, in New York, the far left lane, that's for people with ticket money. In New York.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:17

So you're not a Florida, you're in New Yorker the way you're talking.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

In New York, if you don't turn a blinking light or turning single or anything like that, you're getting pulled over. They're pulling you over. The cops ain't bullshitting around, they're gonna pull you over. Here, literally, the car in front of me. Because that was probably one stop sign. So there was a cop there. The blinkers right there, like turn. He just turned, the cop didn't put his blinker, they both didn't. He's about to pull him over. Nope.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:43

He's like, I appreciate you not slowing down. Yeah, I'm trying to get home.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:46

If the cops don't follow the damn rules, would you expect the people to do it? No. So I think it's actually the Floridian people here that don't know how to drive well.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:56

Yeah, because the Floridian Floridians are.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:58

It's too crowded. We don't have the infrastructure for it. It just comes down to that. That wasn't one one advice I can give you both of you is increase your following distance. It's the best advice I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

That wasn't five years ago, ten years ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

How long have you been here, Jose? Yeah, about like 10, 15 now. 15 years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

Well, we grew up here, so there was less, a whole lot less traffic here. But we're still driving the same. But the infrastructure was the infrastructure here was never in place for the number of people that we have.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:28

Yeah, but that that's not saying that the people are now that there's more people, but that doesn't mean that it's more like it's gonna how would it say?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

But this is just a bedroom community for Tampa and Brighton. But I think that's the problem that we grew up with the rules that we grew up with because don't put blinkers. Because we didn't have to. There was we that's not the point. That's not the point.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

But that with rules I lived in w rural western New York. And it's the same. Like the it wasn't, it's not populated, and you still use your blinkers. Yeah. We didn't do it. No one's behind you.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:05

No one's around you. You use your blinker? Yes. Why? No one's around you. That's what we were doing. You're brainwashed. No, not brain. The man has touched you. That's what the book is. Alright, so if there's a stop sign there and there's absolutely no car should not you stop, you still stop.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

I stopped before. Because that's what the book says. What book?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Whose book? And you know, you know how how I got this? Yeah. Because my dad would always get pulled over.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:31

I would always get pulled over. I almost lost my license at 19, I think. I do it. I do it. He's like, I stopped. I don't stop. There's no one there. Two reasons.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:41

One, OSHA enforces it at work because I drive for a company vehicle. So I'm I always back. Fuck you guys. I always back up.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:50

No one was smile when you said that. You do that yourself. You're still giggling and busting as you back up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:57

See, that's cool. Oh, I gotta show you something. So and then uh um and the signal lights, I stop, I never run a red light, and I lost my brother hit and run accident. So that we all you know, you can't you know that that that'll definitely hit home. No, definitely. So you don't want to go out there and kill somebody in the seat. So it's blinkers, man. Use your blinkers, seatbelt, everything, dude. But if no one's there, you still gotta do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

Hey, do the right thing when no one's watching.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:24

Yeah. Or else or else what's gonna happen is Donald Trump's gonna win again.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:28

Oh shnab, where's my phone?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:30

So you better start. Oh, speaking of that, another one.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

Did you did you vote?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:35

Yeah, I voted. I was forced to vote. By the wifey? By the wifey. Again, he already registered. He already said it. He voted for the Lucent King. Yeah, I I registered. No, but as a Democrat? Democrat, I think. No, did I do it as a Democrat? I don't remember, bro. I think I did. Yeah, I think I did.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

You don't gotta lie.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:54

Why? No, I think I I don't know. I don't I mean as much as they may be. You're not tribal at all. Nah, man. I'm what's best for me. You're independent, like me. I'm in the I'm I'm independent, but I'm Democrat because it's what I think That's where you grew up. I think it's what I was taught to believe by my folks. And what I see, I I connect more with Democrats than Republicans. Likewise. Because Republicans say some real junk that it's you know it's not really for minorities.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:18

It's always been about the same thing for me. It's uh I'm gonna be doing what I think is the right thing. I'm gonna be voting for the right person based on who I think the person is.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:28

Look at the picture. I'm sorry. What is that?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

You knew it's what it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:35

We called you juvenile. Bag it up.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

That's a fucking nasty.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

Those are private. That was a private show.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:47

I was supposed to be doing that while no one was watching, I guess. He's at the rage.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:56

Oh more than you wanted. Can I see it again? Tony speaking of AI.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:03

That's all we use it for. Of all the things that we could be solving in this world, do we need to be a little bit more than that? We insult each other like a man. Which is all we do. We just insult each other.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:12

It's the only thing we do. So when's the next range, guys? Whenever you're ready, you ready? Which one's that one? Can you handle the heat? Oh man. Hold on, wait a minute. AI is dangerous, bro. Jesus. Well, it's gonna have to be after Mother's Day and all that shit, so.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:35

Este way. Ay, ay, ay. Don't get too close to that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

You know which one this is? You asked me to post that one I did.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:42

No, the smiling again. Did y'all watch the Canelo fight? Not the Canelo, the Benavides fight last night. I seen the highlights. Gosh, that Benavides fight was crazy. It was a good fight. Good fight. I love all Mexicans. Who were you going to do? All Mexican card. Benavides. Just because I think he has more of a upside for sure. Upside. I mean, and he went up like 20. I mean, he's the champ, I think, at 68 all the way to 200. That's crazy. That's crazy. He's never been done. He can drop and pick up 25 pounds like that or 30 pounds just to put it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

Roe Jones Jr. did it a long time ago.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:17

True, yeah. No, but he looked good. He was strong. He was crazy. He was stronger than the dude that was the actual weight class.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

Well, the guy that was in the weight class. Another one's a JJ. Zurdo Ramirez. He wasn't listening to his corner, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:30

He had an Asian dude. Did you see that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:33

Even I was watching it with one of my boys who's a white dude. He's like, why the hell does this dude have an Asian dude? He needs somebody saying, Webete we can't get.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:42

It's like going to a Chinese restaurant saying, Why do they got Mexicans making the food? Water. It didn't make it. You mean a sushi place? Well, we know.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:50

But we know why, because they cook real good. We cook real good.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:55

I'll take the other one, yeah, please. You guys want things too? You guys good?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:57

Prendele, print the Yeah, but that's crazy how that fight was so good, dude. Benavides is a few. And you know what's kind of sad to me in a way? When they showed Canelo, I thought I heard everybody booing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:09

They did boo him.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:09

They they were booing him right when he was talking. Yeah. But why is that? The culture will change on you that quick. Because he was dodging Benavides. I'd dodge Benavides too. If I was Canelo's like, I looked it up, he's 5'7. Benavides is 6'1.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:24

Yeah. And the weight difference is huge. I don't think he's dodging them because of that. He's dodging them because of the way he, you know, he he talks a lot of shit. All these other fighters, they talk shit after they got the fight. Or let's just say we signed a contract, and then they start talking shit. This guy's been talking shit about Canelo the whole time.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:46

Well, everybody knows Canelo's the moneymaker. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

So Canelo's like, nah, I'm not gonna give you a fight. Just he he did the same thing with uh No, no, you're right, he does. With uh this guy, what was his name? Adrian, not Adrian, um Benavides beat him. What's his name? Uh I was trying to think of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

Demetrios Andre.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:01

Yeah, Demetrius Andre. Demetrius Andre did the same thing. Came to his uh press press and started talking shit, disrespecting him. He's like, you know what? Fuck you, you're not getting a fight, Nick. You you were supposed to get a fight, but now you're not gonna fight. Not no more. You're gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:13

But but from what I heard, there was supposed he was supposed to fight him on 168, but homeboy fucked it up. Fucked it up one, he got the uh drug thing, then they stripped him, and then the other time he was overweight and they stripped him. Twice.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:31

But it's crazy how the people turn on Canelo that quick when he was the sunshine in Mexico, he was our pride and joy, and that kind of bugged me a little bit. Not but it did. Like why we switched that quick. I'm like, no, that man still represented us very well. I mean, even if he did dodge him, I mean he has his you're right, he dodged it because he doesn't like to be disrespected. He's not gonna get you money if you're disrespected to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

I wouldn't say he dodged them because he had the opportunity at 160 back when he was, and this was a while ago. Yeah, yeah, well. Because how do you think Canelo got all those belts at 160? He was one of them, but he didn't make weight and lost it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:09

So, I mean, who do you blame?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:12

Yeah, it can't blame Canelo.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

Blame Canelo if you're gonna be. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:15

But I'm saying the people that are blaming Canelo. Like, I I completely understand. I honestly think Canelo would get his ass whooped by Benavides if they did fight. Benavides is a monster, dude. Did you see how dude he looked a Mason last night? I don't know if he looked that Mason. Oh, dude, his combos?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:31

He he to that I don't think he would have lasted that long with him. I mean longer. He was getting gassed out. You can see he started to open his mouth.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:40

Well, he popped up.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

But he was hitting him hard that he broke the shit. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:44

What round was it? Like six six rounds? Yeah, I give him that. I think he had another. Well, I think he would have out the heavier dude. I think he would have out lasted him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

But I think if if because he gets tired toward the end, even though he does throw off shit in by the fifth, end of the fourth, you could see Benavid Yata. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He learned to breathe with his mouth. And I'm like, oh, he might get tired.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:06

And that's what the coach was telling him, like, no, um Fordo Raminez coach was telling him, like, no, we're we gotta you gotta stop this standing. Machisimo. He said, Stop the machissimo. And start getting, we gotta go to the late rounds because that's what we're gonna get him in the late rounds. But he didn't listen. No, he didn't mean to.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

A reason why I think he didn't listen to him, because he already knew his shit was broken. It was broken from the beginning. He because that shit got swollen. I think fast. So he did break it. Did you hear what? Yeah, yeah. He broke the socket. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:37

Maybe because I was watching the fight, and all of a sudden I something like yo, his eyes turning like white at the top, which was screwed. It was like completely different color. Yeah. Like if someone's about to, you know, uh, so it was he he knew it was already broken.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:48

He's like, yo, I gotta go out on my shield. Yeah. I gotta go out.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:51

As soon as he hit him, yo, that's he would the way he definitely didn't listen.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:55

He's like, either I knock his ass now and I or he's gonna knock me out right now. But I he knew that he wasn't gonna make it to the 12th. So, I mean, that's what I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:05

I think Benavides is definitely the future right now. He looked good.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

But because he was doing Surdo was doing okay. I mean, he wasn't doing the greatest.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:12

No, he was doing good. Benavides just looked, I was surprised he looked faster and stronger.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

Because what allowed Benavides to hit him that hard was the up close to personal. But when Surdo was boxing him, he got hit, but he didn't get hit as much.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:25

I think you need to rewatch the fight, brother.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:28

Man, rewatch it. No, I'm saying he did good. He did Benavidas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:32

Yeah, but I just think I think my main thing that I I didn't like the way the people turned on Canelo so quick. Like that was that was rough for me to hear.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:41

Which guy? Canelo Canelo. Why? Because I lost two grand personal reasons, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

Yeah, nah, nah. He's okay. He's not he's not Julio Cesar Chavez, but he's no one's Chavez, right? So he's there, he's up there.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:56

No one's Chavez, especially with that Metric Taylor fight. No one's Chavez. Chavez so fucking my dad cried when he lost. And I never seen my father cry. He cried when Chavez lost, bro. That was like the first time he he lost with uh was it the doctor? Go see Amaba. Sweet P. No, no, no, no, no. Whitaker? No, Chavez didn't lose to those fools. He lost to uh the doctor. No, he lost to a the doctor Un Moreno. He used to wear the the nurses or the doctor's outfit. What was his name, bro? You're watching a Miami Highlight, bro. My father was crying right there in front of people. Like it was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Whitaker well, he drawled with Whitaker, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:34

Yeah, no, no. He it was uh here I forget. He's like you're looking it up.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

Yeah, on his iPhone. Yeah, I tell you, I tell you, and pull it up in your drawer, see what comes up. Fucking viruses will come up. That's what can't be. Who would he lose to?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:50

This dude's struggling, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Oh, he put up the wrong Cesar Chavez. Oh boy, don't you? That guy lost to everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:58

Yeah, we went down that one. That was not.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:01

What the César Chavez lose to in his first fight.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:04

And put not the sex assault it wasn't De La Hoya, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:09

It was like The Surgeon. There he goes, Frankie Randall.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:12

He's still looking it up on his iPhone. Look at that. I can't spell.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:15

That's why I talked. Yeah, and I do the talk thing too. Frankie Randall.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

And then they find out he was coked up. He was coked up. That's his thing, man. The man was on coke all the time.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:26

I'm not talking about Chavez. Even though he was. I'm talking about Frankie Randall was drugged up. They said it afterwards.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:31

Yeah. That's all. He's like, yo, I gotta do more than he does because he was coke too.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:35

Yeah, he was. But they said that Chavez has uh his head is like, you know how we all have our skull. His skull is thicker than the normal. That's why he was able to take so many damn punches and like nothing, bro. Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:48

I think uh the mine was when DeLoria beat him. That was brutal.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:54

It was caught him at a yeah, he was already on his downfall. And I think that's what's happening to Canelo right now. Like I think his prime is done, and now he's just looking. He don't need no more. He doesn't should I wouldn't fight. He's got so much money, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:05

But then, yeah, then I start um I stop I start looking at the human. You know, just look at Fernando Varquez.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:13

I don't know if you Oh heck yeah, I follow boxing like crazy. That's my boy.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:16

Slurring? Yeah, like get out, man. You got young kids. Enjoy your young life, dude. But he really hasn't taken a lot of hits. Canelo's very good. But it only takes one, dude. True. It only takes one.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:25

Yeah, but that's but that's what I'm saying. Like, why are you still boxing? Like, he has, especially any of the people.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:30

Like, dude, you're gonna get hurt. Well, because he can't, you know, the older you can get the hardest to slim up.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:35

Yeah, I said I think that that's your cue right there. It's like uh you're gonna be a big one. I used to take a dump and I lose four pounds. I take a dump, I gain a pound. How the hell does that happen, bro? It goes up. What make that sound again? You know. Yeah, I don't, he's there's no reason for him to box here. He has so he can't spend the money he has right now. That's what I'm saying. And why still box like your kids are taking care of like their kids' kids, like there's no other reason to fight at this point. It's weird to me. It's just that fighter mentality.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:07

But if I mean if they make that Benavides fight, which I I That's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen, no. Both of them demand way too much money. And I uh Netflix in the zone.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:18

Huh? Benavides don't make that much. He will demand a lot of money for that fight, dude. Yes, he will. I mean, he will. He's not gonna get that fight, but he doesn't make that much money either way. Compared to the Canelo. Compared to Canelo.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:29

Canelo's the money maker right now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was, I think, after his last name.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:35

But that's the reason why that fight will not happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

The fucking daddy money, I think the Arabic.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:41

Yeah, he's gonna pay him. Yeah, oh, of course he'll pay him. I don't know. His last fight, man, he didn't look too good. Nah, but he's I just well, you know what? The hunger is not there anymore, I think. You got that you got that much money already. You don't have that same hunger.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

That's what I felt with uh Ramirez last night. Yeah, a few interviews I was telling Jose before we got here. Um, where you guys got here is that he mentioned he had two more fights left. Yeah, that he's that might be ready to take down. I get that, but he tried.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:08

Benavides just, I'm telling you, I love boxing. I grew up with it. I I watched it like crazy. He's he's definitely legitimate. Benavides, man. He's legit sucker look. He was putting it on, that boy.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:18

Just a little worried that uh he might go up a little bit too high, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:21

Because uh, I don't think you do much more than that.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:24

Yeah, you might want to stay there.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:26

I saw him with a fight with I think some Cuban dude, his last fight, that'll fight, but he's gonna be a few.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

Who would you like to see him with next? Benavides.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:34

Oh, the dude that uh Canelo that beat Canelo, Bibolo, Bibolo. I want to see that. I think he's saying that's the fight. I want to see that fight. That will happen. Oh, that I think that was happening. That will happen. Oh, that's that'd be a heck of a fight. What it's September?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

He's fighting September, you said. No, Canelo's fighting September.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:51

Who's he fighting?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:52

Uh some other guy. In Billy. Yeah. I don't even know. Isn't he a the champion? They're fighting for the the vacant belt. The vacant belt? Yeah. Well, way class.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:02

How is Canelo doing that? 168. That's your phone. See who's faster. Who's what? How old's Canelo? How old is Canelo?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:09

He's got to be what, 34? I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

I don't even know anything about boxing because I watch wrestling. Yeah, yeah. You watch Donald Trump wrestling. He likes baby oil.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:19

WrestleMania or UFC?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

No, WrestleMania would be a little bit of a woman.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:22

I really like wrestling. He likes men hugging each other and rubbing each other. And speedoes and everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:29

You know, it's you know what? At least I know what I'm gonna. If I may Yeah, you know what you're gonna get, right? If I pay for 70 bucks, I'm gonna get four hours of entertainment. Boxing, it might be one round, it might be twelve. No, actually, all the fights were pretty.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:44

There were good fights last night. Well, they were all Mexican fighters. So they knew they had to, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:49

I mean, that first one I think should have just quit and the third, fourth round, hey, in a way it wasn't Metz.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:55

They were both Japanese.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:57

What the fuck are you talking about? In a way, in a way. It's a different card. That's a different card. He fought yesterday last night? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. He fought in the morning or some shit like that. Oh, the earlier. Yeah, it was a different card.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:06

It was the same thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:08

No, you you guys said all fights. There were some Japanese fights.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:11

Not on the last night. No, no, no. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:14

It's a whole separate card. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. I'll tell you said it all fights yesterday. In the underno we were that's a huge, that's a huge fight. Yeah, it was. There were two undefeated fighters.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:27

Yes. But I'm talking about the under guard.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:30

The Asian one? Yeah. Huge, huge uh he's a fucking one of my favorite right now. What weight class is he?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:39

122 at 225. 122, we were just talking about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:43

Yeah, he's probably gonna fight. He shouldn't go over 135, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:48

Yesterday when I was watching them fight, the 122 stamien, their head is like at the top or below the top rope. The top rope. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:59

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

And the referee, when you see him, he's like about a foot taller than the top rope. And I'm like, yo, they're making this dude look huge, and he's only like 5'10. Yeah. The referee. Oh, yeah, the referee.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

Yeah, these guys are like, sure. I'm like, how are they?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:16

Yeah, like damn, they like five feet or something. Man. Bunch of hobbits fighting there.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:21

Turn it off. I'm I'm freaking cold, dude.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:25

I'm Pagalo? I think Carlos had over there. Yeah, I think my pops was like 5'2, 5'3, which is crazy. You go? I'm good.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

I got a hoodie, man. Turn it around.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:35

You guys comfortable over there? Yeah, fine. Go ahead, turn it off. Turn it off.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:42

Tiene frío.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:44

Shrinkage!

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

Shrinkage! Here we go again. You see? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:53

Well okay. But you Mexican, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:59

We're not built for this. Let me ask you, are y'all having tryouts, soccer tryouts out there?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:03

Yes, we had one month uh Friday.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:06

Was it a lot of kids out there? How did it look like it wasn't there?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:08

Jose Carlos? How did that turn out? Was it JJ?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:12

It was uh the U13. Um JJ, right? There wasn't as as much as we need to uh pedal. Hopefully next year it'll change. How do you think we could get more kids out there?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:26

Advertisement. Advertisement is huge. I know I went uh a couple years ago, I went to the Walmart out there at Wai Mama, and freaking Dynamo had a table out there, and uh Dynamo had a table out there recruiting and that's what we need, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:40

Yeah, plus we we didn't promote it for long, man. No, yeah, but we we we just posted about it last week.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:49

No, no, so grass and basically what you're saying is bas is grassroots better than online?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:55

I think both. Uh, I guess to reach players is better online. Parents is more, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:01

Well, I think in the local areas here, if they just see a sign, you know, tryouts on a certain day, like if a month or two months behind, they s because I know that's what I've seen when I've drive freaking I drive to work on this all over freaking dynamo all over, and I'm like, oh, and I it's just they're here, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:16

There has to be fun dynamos, right? To do this intersection. I'm like, I'll tell Carla, let's go out there and take remove them.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:22

Take the signs. But but another thing with that is that they have people that want to help out and do shit, man. Yeah, that's the thing. It's not one or two people doing it. It's the whole thing, it's not three people.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:32

I think that we well to volunteer, we could we'll we can have volunteers, but we're like I said, right now we're trying to not fix shit, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:41

Yeah, things have to be corrected before you can get you know, it's trying to build a ship and navigate it at the same time. It's hard.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:47

I know how Donald Trump feels.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:49

What the fuck? That fool ain't starting at the bottom, I'll tell you that. No, he's not.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:56

Well, then I guess I'm the only one that started at the bottom.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:00

When I when I signed up for this, I wasn't expecting this much work. Not that I'm lazy, but yeah, you know, it's it's I'm having a hard time adjusting to my kids' schedule.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:09

And the park because it it demands a lot of oh, yeah. And you get appreciation of all these clubs here. I'm not sure about Fish Hog. I don't know if they get paid, but we don't get nothing. It's all volunteer work. Some of the except for our refs, you know, when they're refs are team. But other than that, you have to because if not. Refs always get paid.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:28

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:29

If that they're not coming here, even if the teams don't show up, the refs get paid.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

Yeah. Other than that, man, it's it's it's been tough. How many people you guys have there helping out? Just us three. Oh on the board or volunteers?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:42

In general, like what's the number of on the board? Uh bust through it here.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

And then um volunteers. Now we're starting to have uh line. Yep. We have a uh creating a uh a volunteer sign up for like the whole month, Monday through Friday, and then um people just we told them and what do the volunteers do? They're in the concession stand. Um and then that's for now. That's just all they do and clean up. And if we have to like do uniforms, they'll help us sort the uniforms and I know I remember when I was at the Flames, uh, they would have parents would have to volunteer.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:25

Like you all have to put in so many hours if your kids on the team to help out and just tell us how you wanted to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:31

That was both for competitive and torso? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:33

Okay we did we we did talk talk about that briefly. Yeah, we did. Um I think it's either that or something. I think they say you like the two hundred bucks. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:40

Either you pay a fee or you just help out with one thing and you're covered. Yeah. I remember I would have to but because I coached, I didn't have to do it because I was coaching, but I know the other parents had to volunteer to do something like if there was a tournament, they'd have to deal with the parking or they would have to help at the Castellas stand, or they had them all, you know, an extra hundred dollars, or you could volunteer. So if you don't volunteer, those hundred dollars we could use to help pay someone to volunteer or whatever it is. How did that work out? Well, it was fine because it was to them, it was the norm. You had that's what they paid. So it's that's what normal big clubs do.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:12

Yeah. Like when I was in California, um the same thing. Either you volunteered or you paid. You volunteered doing the parking at tournament.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:23

Or you would pay for them to pay for someone to do it. Or yeah, like give it away. But it's just gonna take time uh for you guys to make a norm of it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:33

Like I said, this is they're building the ship and trying to steer it at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:36

Do you know how old that club is? The White Mama Club?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:39

I know I know Carlos wants to do a history, right? That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:43

Early 2008s, or I'm sorry, late 90s, early 2000s? The park?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:49

The park. It's my club. Yeah. It started when I got there. It was a baseball field at one point in the year. It was a baseball field at one point in the year. You should play there. Yeah, likewise.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:57

Just like Donald Trump did a playground first. You're trying to open up. Come on, you keep trying to open that key, ain't nobody taking the bite, bruh.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:06

This was a playground first. It wasn't. And then it was a baseball field.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:09

It was a baseball field and then now it's a soccer field.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:13

But the soccer program, I'll say since like 2008, maybe I was like, early 2000s.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:18

How long has it been a Mexican community? Do you know that? Since the beginning.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:21

As far as I remember, that was a I was a hub.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:23

So it started I from that news article that I read, it it started uh they're going to play at a league or something. Brandon, I think. Um and then they got someone to volunteer or a coach to start helping the kids, the parents and my mama to coach the teams there. And then they just started building little.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:55

There's a lady, I think her name is Elaine. I think we're we're we both know her, right? Yeah. I think credit to her.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:02

She was the one that kind of organized it and kind of put it together.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:04

Got some funding and everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:05

What is she? Caucasian? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:07

Yeah. Are you guys seeing more uh Caucasian or white people come out there? Because the Mexican community is not really smaller.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:15

Not really, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:18

I'm starting to see more. Jose's trying to get them over there.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:21

I mean, I'm just saying that that's that's who's there now. I mean, the Mexican community is small there now, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to bring everybody, man. Yeah, no, exactly. Whoever wants to play soccer and play, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:31

I think that's for them to have ultimately that's the that's the best way to do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:35

I mean, honestly, you have no choice. There's not enough Mexican population there anymore to to I mean, that's just my opinion from what I've seen. Yeah. The years that I've been there, it used to be a large Mexican community to where you could carry your own weight. You don't have the numbers anymore. I mean, at least from what I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:54

Of course, yeah, the remainder is a massive dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:58

So the in house is not that. We have a few um tech Caucasian, a few black. Yeah. So we're it's a slight change. I think there's a I don't think you have a choice of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:11

There's an uptick in in different uh diversity. Yeah. It's gonna take more time to build into that though.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:17

Well, I mean I just I I'm just giving you the opinion from the outside. I don't think you have a choice but to because the Mexican community is so much smaller. I mean, it used to look like it was a full city, and I'm just saying, respectfully looking from the outside, it's not from three it's not from 301 all the way to that little back road where the farming is anymore. Right. It's smaller. It's like I mean, from what I it's like two blocks now of Waimama. It is, yeah. It really is. I mean, you know, because I used to drive there. I used to s when I first started, even before I ref there, I used to go there for soccer games. That's way back. And it used to be, oh man, a Mexican city, a Mexican town. Now it's I mean, it looks like it's just real small now. What would you suggest to attract more more um? I think the the the other population, other the Mexicans need to know that they're accepted there. Because honestly, I'm just being real from the outside. It looked like the Mexicans just wanted to keep a Mexican. And you were able to do that because there was enough Mexican population to do that where you didn't need the outsiders. Right. But now the fact that it looks like it's two blocks of real Y mama, you you you might make one or two teams if you keep it that way.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:28

Me and Carlos tried to coach there originally. Yeah. They they said, because I try to get Jose to play there, you know, because they told me about it. I was like, yo, I'll take him over there. I was over here at Dynamo, and then I called and it's like, nah, we don't have no more space for you. And I was like, Alright, cool. And then eventually that I met Marcos and and Roger. And then they're like, yo, just come by, and then from there I got that's finally when I got there. You had to get it in.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:58

I got there, and then I told him what happened, and it's like, oh no, no, I I I never told you that. Yeah. And I was like, so you call me a liar, man? Yeah. He was. I was like, whoever the person there at the time was told me that oh wow. What year? Uh I'm not sure who it was. It was probably 2017. We don't have T. 18.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:18

20. 15, 14, 15, 15, somewhere. 16. Well, when I got here, no, it was uh 17, 18.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:27

Well, we can do the meth right about the time my pulled Scarlet out.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:30

Well, who whoever it was, they they just didn't want they didn't want outsiders.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:34

They didn't want outsiders. They don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:35

I guess I didn't you know what I didn't call with with uh Mexican Mexican accent, and they were like, oh, this guy's not not one of us. Yeah. I emailed them everything. They didn't reply back to me until they answered the phone, like, nah, we we don't have no more open spaces. But that's a bunch of bullshit because they didn't want outsiders. They just didn't want people to see.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:56

It's not that, man. It it was I don't think it was that, dude. Uh there was some shady shit going on. They saw Jose as a threat. Because that's what it was. It wasn't your makeup, your way you talk, nothing like that, dude. I think it was.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:08

It was a it was uh Well, he was just coming in asking a legitimate You weren't asking him for anything else, were you?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:15

I was just trying to get my kid to come play because his friend played here, so he he wanted to play, you know. And as we know now, a lot of shit did happen, dude. So I'm just saying and like I said, I mean Carlos will play them back in the day. Yeah. At Dynamo. At Dynamo.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:29

Oh, did they know you were a coach from Dynamo?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:31

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:31

They didn't know. No, no, they didn't know when you called. They didn't know when I called it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:35

That's that's my point. But they seen him as a an out uh outside company, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:40

Yeah, you know, because I didn't want to go there and coach. I just wanted to go because my son wanted to play because his friend played there. Yeah. He he was playing over here and then he went over there.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:49

And they had some they had players, dude. I mean, honestly, when I was, I'm like, man, these kids are skilled. Not much discipline, but a lot of real skill. Yeah. To where they didn't need discipline. Like their skills, like I said, they show up 15 minutes late just when Slice walking into the field, and as soon as they got there, put on the cleat, and the coach let them in. So, and then I'm like, what the heck, as a ref? Or even ask the coach when I used to coach against them, and then I will see the kid play. I'm like, damn, okay. I mean, I can see he changes the whole game, and all the kids are happy that he's there. As soon as that one kid came in or two, it's like, holy crap, the kid is skilled, but has lacks discipline, you know, to to make it into this.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:27

And that's the thing with I could say about that club, man. If kids make it out of there, great. But usually they make it because of education.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:36

They don't make it because parents have a blind I mean, unless you've been into this system long enough, you know this is it's it's I mean, the other clubs are very money-making.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:48

The reason why is because even when if you're trying to play in college, they're strict. You gotta follow rules, yeah. You have a schedule. You're living the life like, hey, this is the life. This is your schedule, gonna follow it. If they can't even do it here at a foot a soccer game, you can't be there when I tell you to be there. What makes you think they're gonna be able to do it?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:08

Or these or they're these kids that do make it because of the skills they get there and they get pushed away right away, like you're not here. Like, get it, go run laps, you're not playing, and then they end up quitting or leaving. And it's a waste for everyone. For the for the school that did give out some money, and for the kid that's undisciplined, you come back and now you're like in the middle of nowhere. You feel like a failure. Yeah, these kids are yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:28

I don't I don't see that. I uh well I coach more the younger one, so they're I think they're there more to just Oh, wait till you get to U16.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:35

Yeah, teenager changing that fits.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:38

Yeah, I don't really deal with that, so I'm kind of but if I didn't know that's that that was even going on.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:44

No, but as far as uh like a entitled or well some of the parents too, the kids as much as the parents, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:50

Yes, I mean some of the parents are like, well, my kids' the best player in the team, so I could act the way no man, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:55

And then was worse, some of these parents that you know, parents and not just that club, I'm talking all clubs, because I see it, you know, just our clubs, everybody. So that these parents are like, nah, this club has a better league or more to offer, so we're gonna drive an hour and a half to TBU three times a week. Yeah. And then the next year they're like, Yeah, that's too much. Like, no shit. You can't you couldn't tell that driving three times in traffic, spending five hours three times a week, because it takes an hour and a half to drive there, you gotta be there for an hour and a half for practice, then an hour and a half back to come home. And then your butt has to go to work the next day. You didn't think that was gonna be a problem. You think they had more to offer? Like, I would I tell all these parents that I do talk to them, like, I know you're looking out for your kid, but once it comes to soccer, honestly, at least from what I've seen, do what's best for you. If this is the closest club or this is the nicest coach that's close enough, do that. Because if you're not happy driving that kid there every day, you're gonna make that kid's life miserable going there and coming back, and then complain when you lose.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:58

Yeah, because you're expecting results.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:59

You're expecting results. But the kid's gonna complain no matter what team he's on. Yeah. And he's gonna be happy no matter what who their friends are more than win or lose. They're gonna have my kids would have fun whether they won or lost. I'd hate it losing, but they would have fun either way, you know, and they'd get over it in an hour. But those parents that were doing all the do what's best for you as a parent, because you're the one driving the kid there driving back, feeding and paying all these fees. These kids are gonna succeed no matter what, and it's not because of soccer. Soccer, I think, is a form for these kids to be disciplined, learn discipline, learn how to work with others, you know, learn to listen to a boss, which is your coach. Yeah, you know, so it's it's life skills more than soccer. You know, you have a good coach.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:39

That's where we fail sometimes. We fail, some coaches fail to give these kids these life skills. Yeah, it's about, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:46

As a coach that was me, man, I would be like, hey, we're here, we're gonna play. We're not here, yo. If I tell you something to do something, I expect you to do it. It's it's no, you don't want to do it then. And now you go home.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:59

Yeah, and you're quick about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:00

Go home.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:00

You have to be home.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:01

I'm like, yo, no, no, no. I had this one kid one time, I'm like, yo, what are you doing, bro? Play your position. What happened? You're like, nah, nah. And then he was like, Oh no, coach is racist.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:15

Oh, gosh. Hey!

SPEAKER_02 1:36:17

Come here, buddy. Hey, go in. Come here. What what's going on?

SPEAKER_06 1:36:26

I can't say.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:26

Whoa, whoa, what are you talking about? What'd you say? Oh, I don't know, coach. No, no, I I heard what you said. I'm just trying to see what if you're gonna tell me man to man what you said. Like, nah, man, we don't play like that here. I don't play like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:44

I don't play like that here.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:46

We're not best friends, we're not no, no, no, no. Sit down.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:52

Gotta teach you. I'm telling you, soccer is life skills, man. Like I said, it teaches you to deal with a boss, it teaches you to work with coworkers, and it teaches you that what you put in that practice is what you're gonna put out at the game. Yeah. You know, and that's why I was so blessed to have so many good kids and good parents, like what, the 18 years that I coached, man, and I had them kiss from you shit, from you five all the way to U19. Yeah. And it's just, you know, because I'm not, I'm just saying I was a good person that they could tell I was trying to teach your kids more. Yeah. Not just freaking soccer. I would buy these. I mean, you know, we lose money as coaching, bro. Oh, yeah. So much money. Found that out. Oh, so much money weekly.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:36

You're saying, like, it's not about winning and losing, because you got you like we went back to your high school team. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:42

It's about winning and losing. It's just how. Not with that team.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:45

Not that team, that team was more to to teach them uh uh, like you said, a life skill. A life skill. No, yeah, yeah. But but I get it. That girl team is to teach them a life skill.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:54

Yeah. It wasn't about winning because we were still eight and six, sir, so Yeah, I guess. What was yours? I'm just kidding. No, but like Yeah, no. And you know what's crazy is like every as a coach, you see that every kid, you need to teach them something different. Like my real skilled players, I had to teach them like you're the head ones. Your positivity or your negativity is what's gonna happen on that field. If your kid gives a bad pass, your kid, your player gives a bad pass, and you shit on them, and they're gonna do even worse. They're gonna cry, come off the field, then you don't want that other person that's on the bench because they're a lot worse. Build them up. And they did. Towards the end, I got fed up with it because it just the the really good ones, other people were blowing up their heads. Yeah, and they started, and once they started loosening to other that and listening to the flag football shit, you were more worried about flag football coming up than what we're doing now. Yeah, I started like I get it. I there's nothing I could do to put your ego to the side and to realize you're not enjoying this anymore, you're already thinking about the next sport. And I was like, I get it. I'm not I can't put out more than you're willing to give effort. You can't give effort if I'm out here more passionate about a win or a loss than you are, I'm like, I'm not burning my sofa. I'm I I I put in too much time to waste time.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:20

Because even that game that we had, yeah, we were usually just like, yo, where we eating, man. Yeah. Where we're eating because this game is like, yo, do you want me to play the whole time, or do you just want me to just and it's like, no, we'll just chill here. We'll watch the game and let's see what they do. Yeah. And it's those things, like light, like, like I treated my Leonard girls different than my W Mama girls, because they were a big difference. Like the way that I had to teach these girls one thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:46

Like, I told you, I was really surprised to see the the new Leonard. I was completely surprised.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:51

Well, which I'm working on to become like you said, you want uh mixture, and that's not where we're gonna go. And that's what I'm working on.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:58

Call it the new Wai Mama.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:59

We're calling the Well, what happened? Some of the that's my new team. Well, some of the Y Mamians stop coming out because they're like, we don't want to be part of that. No, you have to accept everything. What's best for the whole team? Not just the cult. I mean, I love our cult, but it's like we have to know. This is what I'm sick of.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:15

I'm sick of it calling Will Mama Warriors. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sick of it because we're not the W Mama Warriors. We are R Y S A. And a lot of people a lot of people don't even know what the hell that shit is. What does it mean, sir? I don't know. No, but that's the thing. That's what they're like, what? What do you mean? No, like that's who we are. No, we're the W Mama War. Yeah, okay, yes, we're the W Mama Warriors. But like Carlos says, if we want to go to history, that's what it is. That's what this club is. It doesn't say Will Mama Warriors in front of the freaking concession stand. What does it say?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:57

RYSA. If you want to take it back, it's wasn't it Red Bulls? No, it's not. But but it is RISA, yes. RISA, right? RYSA.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:04

Yes. ROSA, the Red Bulls, or whatever. It wasn't the Red Bulls either. Or whoever put the Red Bull. Yeah, RYSA. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:12

The only reason I know is because I've been looking into it, like the logos and stuff, and I got a few logos.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:18

Which I already made a new logo for, you know, it's gonna come out eventually. Alright. So what's our prove it? I approved it. No. I'm doing the executive order. I guess what's our mascot?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:30

Executive order.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:31

Executive order I can get that in the uh what's our what's our official mascot or the Warriors.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:38

Right now it's the Warriors because again, this like Tony said, we're we're we're trying to fix this as we go.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:45

But well, I remember talking to the lady who uh kind of started this, she always called it Risa, she never called it Risa Risa, yeah. Okay, and then um and it was rural association.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:59

Oh, rural, okay. That's the main that's like if we want to do it the proper way, we need to go back to the roots and yo, this is who we are home, you know, of the Wa Mama Warriors. You can do that, but this is exactly who we are. Risa. Risa Risa.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:16

So Risa. You don't have to. It's still RISA. I mean But nobody knows it.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:22

Everybody just knows that it's a Wan Mama Warriors.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:25

I mean, I'm just saying from that side, they just know that's why mama. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:28

But but I mean that's and that's who we are. It's it's one and the same. Yeah, it's not one and the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:33

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:35

It's yes, it's so engraved now that it's gonna probably be impossible to nothing's impossible to separate.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:42

Well, it's changing so much, and you have no choice. Like it's it's not truly uh like I said it's two blocks, white mama.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:50

So i if it's an association, it's not two blocks, sir. It's not two blocks. It's five blocks.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:56

It's what is it? Uh um 694? No, why mama? The last street over there, railroad. By the lake? By the railroad and then Carlton Lake, right? Yeah, it goes. It's not Carlton Lake.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:11

Twelve streets, probably. That's about it.

unknown 1:43:13

What?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:13

Twelve block? West Lake, West Lake, and then it goes down that way.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:18

Man, it ends like I remember I even went to uh Marcos's house. It ends right there, Marcos's house, because right on the other side of Marcos' house, you see the fence and you see all big old white homes. Yeah. So it ends, right? But that lets you.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:30

No, it doesn't end right there, it still keeps on going. No, no, basically.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:34

That's where it ends. Because on that other side of his where he lives. That's towards his own. So I'm not coming at you, sir. I'm just saying there is no visual change of the home. As soon as like I was at his house for a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:46

It's just this little area right here. That's it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:49

Not this little area right here. There's another area where he lives.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:52

There's patches of it now because they've been taking over a certain way. Well that's what they do.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:57

They come in a certain thing and they stole not where he lives across the street from where he lives. River Road. What is that?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:05

Oh, we we call it mama, right? We call that Willow Road.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:09

Willow Road, whatever. That's what we've heard.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:11

You ever heard of Willow Kids?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:13

Uh-uh. What is it though? That's what mama?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:16

Yeah, it's Way Mama. Exactly. Yeah, but Willow Road, our whole I never said that. That's just uh that's his own they want uh nothing to do with no offense to Tony, but but Tony, what did I say?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:32

Across the street. The street from Tony. Yeah. Not like literally across this street. Why do you sound upset, sir? Because he's not understanding.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:43

He gets upset. He gets very passionate about things.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:45

That's good. Be passionate. Three one on this side, white mama, is different than the three one on the right side is Sundance. Yeah, like Mark, like I said, like Marcos's house.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:57

That house is the mama right here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:59

This is central.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:00

This is central white mama. I've never seen this area. This is ground zero right here.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:07

Downtown.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:08

Downtown. I mean, true Waimama Nadium, bro. I just know where the taco stays.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:14

That's Main Street. We brought Mexico here. That's Main Street. That's Main Street.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:21

I'm gonna have to go check it out. I don't even know. How far is the field from here? Five minutes. Oh, so it is that close there. Okay, I just came from the other side.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:29

Depending on traffic, could be 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:32

No. Bro, you took the side road. You could just make a left here and it takes you straight.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:38

Half of that time. There's no traffic. Those roads are still.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:40

You know, the first time I went to a game there, there was people riding their horses on. I was like, what the heck is this? I had no the first time I came, it was for a soccer game. Uh, because they got added into that whole little circle later when I came in.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:55

We refer to that as Teaspoon.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:56

Yeah, and then when I went there, I was like, dude, horses? What the heck? And they're they're Mexican. I'm like, oh, and we're proud Mexicans. I'm like, all right, you know, usually they try to hide it to not be, you know, targeted, targeted to be real with you. But there, they felt like they could be. So I feel that I could be. You know what I mean? So it's just, it's, it's coming from the outside scene that it was it was proud. I was real proud to go there and to say, oh, yeah, I go there, or I ref like I was proud. That's my people. Even though they didn't accept me, they thought I was freaking Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:28

But they would be like, even when I told them I was Mexican, I'm like, you fools probably didn't believe me either, because I don't believe you.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:33

And I was because you're a rebuild, bro. I believed you. Did you? You did, you did, because people probably give you the same thing. Yeah, you know, so you didn't never say, like, yo, you're not. They think I'm fucking Filipino too. You're not?

SPEAKER_03 1:46:48

Not cousins? They both from Philippines. Nah. No, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:52

Yeah, but uh, it was just nice coming from the outside of me and my brother had different last names, just like especially in California.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:59

They would talk to me in fucking YouTube. Is that their Tago? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:05

I went to church one time, and I and they I we walked in, we thought it was uh it was uh in Spanish, and like half of it was in Spanish. They were singing in Spanish, and then the homily started as like that's definitely not Spanish. That's definitely not Spanish. Everybody around me kind of looks like us, but we were not in a Spanish-speaking maturity. Oh, that well, well, we know we know more or less the structure, so we can follow along the Asian community that's that has Hispanics, even less names.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:37

Where is it?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:38

That's Philip's here. We have a huge uh uh uh what I admire the Asian culture. Not almost but I admire what's it called the the Mormons? Not Mormons. Here we're you're referring to next to Nora's house, Marcos House. Okay, that it's a huge uh from Israel. What do you call them? Jewish huge Jewish community. You can think of Jewish, bro. Uh huh. You can I I I'm thinking blunt out two or three things at one time. But uh you knew once you see that, you know. They run everything. You know we love the community. This ain't the way mama we grew up in. Yeah. Nothing against him. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:19

But have you guys ever gone to the Amish uh place down in Sarasota? Sarasota, yeah. Bro, that place is wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:26

That's really neat.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:27

I saw some at the park playing soccer.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:30

What? Invite them, but you recruit them, did you feel them? Yeah, did you feel them feel welcome?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:34

But yeah, but how the hell are they gonna get to the games? They can only play home games. True. So what? But those are some country strong boys.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:42

Yeah, but I'm saying, yeah, they're just play the home games.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:44

Yeah, but you guys ever go to that restaurant.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:46

They don't drive cars at all?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:48

Oh, that restaurant's amazing. Some of them. Some of them do, which are Yoder brothers? Uh it's uh it's in Sarasota, and everything is Amish, so everything, like I ordered uh fried chicken. It took like you know 45 minutes because I guess it went outside, killed the damn chicken, the brother, brought it out. And it was just I took it. It was fresh, and then they gave me uh I got like a little a little pie, uh shoe fly pie. Man, that thing was so rich. I took like two bites of it, and I was like, I'm done. I can't eat anymore. It was really good, but it was like, wow, this is amazing stuff, but man, I can only have a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:31

Yeah, there's some in Western New York, and they they have them like if you want the roof done pretty cheap. I mean, they have them do it. And over there they're out there, man. There ain't that many Mexicans. There's not enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:44

Yeah, all the Mexicans over there work farm. Yeah. Also the Mexican Amish. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:49

That's how it was first in my mama. They were all farmers. Most of them it looked like. Oh no, or they used to work at the Sun City area in the homes. At least that's what I knew when I first came here. It was off. This was a lot of it was all farmer life. Farmer. Yeah. And most of the farmer.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:04

Not just us, but the black community was farm worker. Then we got here. It was more migration. We didn't stay here year round. Oh, okay. It wasn't until I would say what 70s?

SPEAKER_00 1:50:16

Uh mid but mid-80s is when it really really started.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:18

When we really started making a foundation. Oh, okay. So and then by I think it was Goodson Farm when they closed down. Goodson Farms here was the biggest uh produce uh company. When they closed down, that's when a lot of people left as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:38

Well I think reason I'm here is because my dad worked in the farm.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:41

I think the first one that really the first domino was Faulkner. When Faulkner closed, that's that's really when the first domino started. That kind of precipitated.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:52

You can see it closing more and more out here. Yeah. I mean, even when I take that back route to get to where Mama Soccer fields, that whole area, the farmland is hard to be given. That's all by Barnard.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:03

Home Grove, where you live right now, that used just to be an orange grove. Orange Grove.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:07

Oh, that orange grove. Even across the street, all of that was.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:12

I used to see workers there all the time. Now I go by, barely see any one bus, if anything, due to change.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:18

Oh, cabbage fields. Where I'm at. Mr.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:22

Sun City.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:23

Yeah, I mean, I live in Sun City. Oh, you're Sun City. Can't live in Ruskin or with mama gotta be in the middle.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:29

Yeah, that intersection there, part of it's Sun City, part of his Way Mama, part of the rear view, part of his Ruskin. Try to make sense out of that. The traffic makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:39

Yo, it would take me like from where he lives, where you where I used to live, like 35 minutes to get to the park. Now it takes me five. Ten at the most.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:48

Oh, backstreets, man. It takes like 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:54

He lives right here.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:56

Closer. I um blame it on your kids. No, because it streets are closed sometimes. Okay. Yeah, bullshit. Streets are where we're gonna do it. There's a lot of church ground there.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:06

Chicken crossing the road and I can't run it over.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:11

Half of my detected. Half of the time I get there, the the the keys aren't there anyway. So what's the whole point? Oh, shop back. Shop back.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:20

Keys are always there. No, they're not. Yes, they are.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:24

Don't give me a mobile key. Every time I got my own set of key now that I'm at Precedente.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:32

Everybody has keys. What are you talking about? Except for the old one.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:36

All the old ones. Nah, you can't change them because uh county needs access to County needs access to it.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:44

Oh, so they have the county master key.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:47

Yep. So the garbage truck picks up the trash thing in the outside and then it goes in to the park and sort of freaking picks up the barrels and the trash. And then when they cut the grass, I'm in. And supposedly they go clean the bathrooms, but I don't know. We have our own people.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:09

Who doesn't have access to that build to that field?

SPEAKER_04 1:53:13

So yeah. Well we got cameras now, so there's cameras.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:16

Soon people won't have access. I'm gonna make sure. Cameras will be big.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:20

Nah, because uh we would have people jump over and just start playing.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:25

Oh Hispanics jumping over a fence and uh and doing things uh they taking advantage of things that are available to you. Oh never seen that before.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:37

Carlos goes out there and kicks him out. I kick him out. You don't belong here.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:41

His red tie and his suit and yellow hair. I kick them out, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:46

Disconnect.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:50

I posted that picture accidentally. Then I had to go internet because they look like little kids. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:58

I know. I know I um man, it's not I had a I kicked them out a few times, bro, and they keep on coming back. Lately they haven't. But I'm like, so once they're gonna start jumping, and but now we got cameras, so we can they're still gonna jump it. No, but now we know I don't have to.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:17

This is how he goes dressed up as Willowsy?

SPEAKER_07 1:54:23

Oh, they get like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:28

Yeah. Uh I told him I'm like, yo man, this is for the kids. When the gate's closed, you can't come in. You got all this outside park that's here, that's for you guys in the county. Yes, you can use it. But once the gates closed, no, that's it. If it's open, and you could come in and play if there's space available.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:52

But if our kids need to use it, you're we're gonna tell you. Is there a field to play outside of that fence?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:58

There's one, it's open over here in uh behind or next to Bethune. Is that how you pronounce it? Bethune Park, yeah. Bethune Park. There's a field there. But the thing is that the county kicks them off with it because sometimes they wear uniforms. So now you're wearing uniforms, it's organized. Yeah, it's not pickup no more.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:22

Yeah, that's true. That's a big thing they gotta know.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:25

So, so you know Alcohol. Well, I don't know if they do have alcohol. Yeah, alcohol's a big deal.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:32

I see the bottle every day.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:34

I had to kick a couple people off there and they were already drunk. It's like, yo, get the fuck out of here, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:38

But um, but I told them I'm like, look, you have Waterset. It has time spaces open for free play. You could go over there and play. But you know, people are not gonna drive all the way to Waterset.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:53

Yeah, most of them used to just walk there to the field.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:56

I mean, I remember I'd go there, they'd be there pickup games all over there, all over. And then the kids kind of in the corner, yeah. Yeah, so it is what it is, man. It is what it is. If that's what their norm was, it's it takes time to change the norm.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:09

Yeah, so the main reason, like you said, is it's the alcohol.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:12

Yeah, the alcohol is the biggest. They don't know how to use it properly.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:15

They don't know how to play well, but every time they have their they have games, they have alcohol. I even gave them my number in the past, like, yo, mira, si vas a estar aquí, hablame. Yeah. They don't call. Yeah. And they just show up. Like, all right, fucker. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:56:29

Sad they're not used to following rules. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:31

Yeah. That's the thing. Like, all right, well, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:33

Yeah. So, so yeah, I was fucking pissed, man. I just freaking left church and I'm in my like ooh. For some reason, I knew that I was like, yo, I need to go to church. I need to go to church. I can't miss church. I need to go. And I went and I'm like, oh, I'm listening. I'm coming back because I had to pick up a uniform. And I go and I'm listening to these fuckers in the park just playing.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:58

And church, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:01

I was like, nah, man. I'm like, I got as soon as I opened the shit, the gate, oh, they all start getting up and grabbing their stuff. And yo, I'm like, yo, what are y'all doing here? Who gave you permission to No one would think they were just walking out, just leaving.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:17

It's what they're known was, they used to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:19

I'm like, man, and then some guys were on the on the outside, you know, where the the fence where the where the players are at? Yeah. In that park. Yeah, on the side. And like, hey, if you know them or if I they said they were just there parked. Okay, cool. Um, if you know these guys and if you were playing on here, please don't come back here. This is for the kids. Um it's working. It's it's it's for the kids. It's not fair for you guys to jump over and tear our nets up and then they have to respect you know um and then the guy was drinking. The guy was coming, one of them was like, no, no, it's it's it's a county park. We can go in there whenever we want to. I'm like, no, you cannot. Once the gates close, it's closed off. You can't come. Once we open it and we have space, you can come in. Yes, then you can come in. And if we have space, we'll let you play. And I got one of the parents from the park was there sitting there with that. I'm like, he knows that. He knows that if if they come in, we're open, he comes and plays. So what's the deal? And uh one was just keeping like, oh man, do you want me to show you the paper where um it says that it's our park? Yeah. The Rice's park. No, no. In other words, we're telling them, you don't even you don't have to, I'm sorry. We're we weren't playing, but we understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like just know the rules. If you break them, you break them, but at least know that you're not supposed to. So when we tell you, somebody like, my bad, you're right. We were we we were wrong. We're right, but you don't get that from some guys they want to fart. I'm like, look, you know it's the truth. Now, if you choose to break it, break it, but break it honestly, fam. Like, you did it, don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:13

But it's the thing is, like, I've given them print plenty of opportunities. You know, I'm telling you, it's not the first, second, or third time. May not even be the last time I tell them. No, it won't. And I'm like, yo, I don't want to have to call the authorities.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:28

So I'm at the point where hey, it is what it is now. I they gave you all more than three chances.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:34

So But like you said, if they didn't mess up the the nets and beer bottles, beer bottles.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:40

That's the main thing, man. It's like the beer is the the thing that bothers me the most is because when we have the park open, there ain't no fucking beers there. And then the next day you come to the park, the slittered with alcohol bottles. Alcohol bottles in the fucking thin containers. Like, what the fuck, yo? Bottle cats.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:02

Yeah, it does really bad.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:03

One one is enough to be like, yo, look.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:06

Even even beer bottles in the trash can look speculative.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:08

Well, that's where we see them in the trash can, and they're not supposed to be. It's supposed to be uh alcoholic.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:12

Bottles of water and Gatorade. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:13

That's it. No alcohol allowed on the field, but there it is. It's like, yo, the same Bush League, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:18

I'm just most of them's what they're used to. And this with this stigma here, man. We gotta take responsibility. That's us, dude. Absolutely. That's us.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:25

Which again, like I said, I had gave them my number, like, yo, here's my number. You guys want to play? Call me. I can come open it up for you guys. You guys can play house chill here and what? Yeah. Ensure that you guys don't have alcohol and shit like that. But they don't call. They're like, oh well, do it fuck your own way. Sadly, we like to do shit illegally. Yeah, and it's like, yo, do it your way, and then hey, guess what?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:45

Like Carlos said, like we need a big sign too, no alcohol.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:49

Don't worry, I'll get one. You want me to get one?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:51

Yeah, yeah, we're not neon.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:53

I would we need a sign that says don't jump the fence.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:57

No, no, he he he wanted uh what do you you want to make with mama great again or something like that? Yeah, I think that's that's good enough.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:04

Yeah, it's good. Well, I put all those other new signs up there saying we got resist we got no parking in these certain spots that we got that up. Yeah, I did see that.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:15

But it's for a safety issues, so the the emergency vehicle can go through there.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:21

So we could do something like that with the fence, don't jump up for your own safety.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:25

I mean, once we get this program situated with the kids, then we're looking into hopefully maybe doing an adult league. Flag football.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:36

Well, we can have you be the ref.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:38

You want you want what are you talking about? You want other communities come in? Flag football. Flag football, man. Because we just serving one huge girl community. We just serving one basically. I know, but we gotta get their park situated.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:50

So when they go there, they feel safe and they're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:52

You want numbers, you want bodies out there?

SPEAKER_06 2:01:54

Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you, flag football for girls. As much as I hate to admit it or not have like, man, it's crazy. It's big, man. Me watching it, because I've been like I said, I've been coaching in this county for 25 years. Yeah. Yo, this flag football wave is so real with the girls. I don't know with the boys as much because some of them like tackle but parents, you know, feel safer with the flag football. Girls, flag football, man, is dominating, bro, and it's going to take over huge. Huge.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:23

There's more chances of girls, like right now in flag football. Like, if they go play flag football, they have a better chance getting a scholarship full rise and everything because it's so new compared to uh soccer that's been there forever. Like And I wonder who's funding it. Is it the NFL? Somebody's NFL's.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:40

I think it's called play football, I think it's called. I think it's a good one. Play three six six something like that, yeah. Play sixty or something like that, yeah. Which is great.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:47

I mean uh as long as kids are playing something, getting involved. Get involved. Like I said, uh being uh a full-time athlete and going to college and all that, that just shows a lot on these kids. The ones that could do it. Yeah. Um the ones that just play sports and don't do other shit. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:07

As long as it's keeping you active and keeping you out of trouble, I think it's a plus. You need all type of workers, all type of educations, but I think just teaching you the basics, like we said, listening to a boss, working as a team, being on schedule, following a schedule. A lot of kids don't know. They suck at sometimes, man.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:26

The only reason mine's are good, my kids are good at schedules is because I set one for them.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:31

Structure.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:34

Or maybe just on time. I mean replaceable anyway.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:38

I found out a long time ago. Everyone is replaceable. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:42

Man at the park. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:43

Nah, nobody could replace Louis Gaffe. You can't, man. Permanent.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:48

You can't get rid of the Lulu problem, man. The Lulu. Lulu prala. All right, guys. That that's pretty much it. Or what? All right. Yeah, it's to go for the couple.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:02

I see the bucket out there. Fly surrounded. That's a small. I viene, I've been, I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:08

Limp right there.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:10

Hey, make sure you hand him over some uh he wants you to clean his hands that way uh he can touch his hands again. They like holding hands, that's why I think. Final thoughts, Carlos. I don't know, you can hold Louie's hand.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:38

Tony.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:39

Erasmo El Taco. I just I I want greatness for my mama, brother. Yeah. Real talk. I think we all want it. That's I mean, and and you know what said they have, they don't realize what they have here. You know what I mean? Especially coming from the outside area, you coming from upstate, I'm coming from South Florida. To have a true Mexican community that can learn to flourish and accept changes and grow with the changes. Yeah, you know, so I showing our culture positively and not all the negative stereotypes. Every culture has negative and positives. You know, we we do have a respectful, uh hardworking, but we also have breaking rules, like we were just talking about doing whatever the heck we want, type of mentality, just showing these people who we really are and why we are so freaking great and why the ones that are looked from the outside, like I've always been looked at to you know, not acceptable, you know what I mean? It's an outsider from both sides, from the the USA side and from the Mexican-American side. You know, you look out so when you see it truly flourish, I love coming there, dude. I love it. I feel pride in this every time I go there. When I take my kids there, I just I I I love what white mama truly stands for. And when people talk negative, even if I'm not white mama, dude, like I I feel proud of what it does represent. It's like we still have a piece of our culture here. Let's not that shit, let's not let that fire burn out, man. Yeah, help that shit get some more wood in that junk and keep that fire going. Don't let it burn out, but also accept the changes and grow with the changes. You know what I mean? So I I I wish the best for a minute. I love what you guys are doing. Even this, you know, it's it's it's coming from the awesome, and it's it's a beautiful thing. Hopefully, people accept the changes you guys are coming with and realize you're coming from a good place and help you light that fire instead of putting some water on it or some beer on it, you know. Bring some more wood and help what we're trying to do, which is greatness for our kids, because they let them be represented better than we were. You know? So I'm watching too, man. They're gonna be. They are. Oh, hey, they follow and they follow what you say. Yep. So back up the greatness that changes that are being made, or people that are trying to help it and realize why people are bringing changes because there is such a negative stereotype to it. You know, that's why I always defend it, even if I'm not, I'm in the branding area all day and I deal with all these other clubs. I try to bring priority. They're like, I'm not like I'm going to Y Mama. I love it there. And my positiveness to it is bringing it to some of these little young refs that are there helping. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I love going with you. I'm like, you love coming with me to Y Mama, bruh. They're like, yeah, yeah, I do, because it's like that's how it is, and that's how it should be for everyone, not just me. That they, I guess, finally do accept or realize that I am Mexican and I'm accept everything like that. Anyone that's bringing some positiveness to Y Mama, man, back it up. Yeah, yeah. Back it up. Even if it's an outsider, back it up, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:30

I almost like it when they talk about Way Mama, because then I feel like I take Wey Mama with me. Yeah, and I'm gonna do completely opposite what you're thinking or what you say. Yeah. You always represent Way Mama. Yeah, big up. Hey, Tony.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:43

You know, my always my favorite saying, that's real deep right there, my friend.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:52

Carlos. You should know it's deep. Uh I'll take your word for it.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:58

No, I didn't got nothing, man. Just uh we're trying to make the club better. We're gonna focus right now on developing the girl side. Honestly, that's our main focus right now. Then work we're still working on the club as a whole and then just trying to build it.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:16

Yeah, build it, they'll come, man. There's a lot of people around there, man. Build that shit.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:21

We're gonna make it great again. It was I don't know when it I don't know when it was great, but we've been making it. It's always been great, man.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:28

Nah, it's always been great. It's it's it it has a lot, it's had a lot of greatness. It's just the talent has always been there.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:34

Oh, yeah, talent's always been there. Yeah, so it's it's great. We just gotta take it up a couple notches and make it a little bit more than that. Let the talent work with you.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:43

Now you work for the talent. Let the talent work with you. Before the talent ran it. Yeah. And the talent was so young that they didn't know how you know what I mean. They really did. The talent ran it now. Let the talent work with you.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:54

I just want to give props to all those parents that are standing there and doing their time helping out the community, you know. Even if it's not the Well Mama, but anywhere, you know, give it up to them, like helping out their community. Not just with mama, but uh all around. Um also to the parents that are actually signing up to volunteer, the high school kids too. Um that that hour or hour thirty minutes you do there, that helps out a lot. By I say it helps out a lot, it gives us time to better the club with administration stuff. While you guys helping out doing other stuff, gives us more time to do our job. That's massive, dude. That is, so I gotta give props to them.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:33

Massive. All right. Yeah. Because one there are times where he's doing coaching, administrative, same thing, this guy.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:40

Doing all three. You guys have people step up, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:42

Yeah, and that's just something helps. I want to thank those parents.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:46

For that, they're doing that. And anybody who's listening, welcome to stop by the the park and and sign up for sure.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:52

And uh if Louis Vuitton, Versace, and all those big companies listening to me. Um, I got a team you can sponsor, you know. Uh we need uniforms. Yeah. My team.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:08

We'll settle, yeah. We'll settle for champion.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:11

Yeah, we'll see champions too, you know. Yeah. Any of those. There you go.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:16

All right, fellas. All right. Thanks so much. Thanks for joining us, man.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:20

Of course, but I enjoy it. I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:22

Take it easy, guys. See you.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:23

Love peace and taco grease.