The Well - The Source of Something Greater
Hosted by Kat & Drew, this isn’t your average “inspiration podcast.” It’s a mix of laughs, love, wisdom, and wild tangents — the kind of conversations you’d have at 1AM with your funniest, realest friends. Each episode dives into the things that fill us up — from creativity and relationships to life’s awkward moments and “did-that-really-happen?” stories. Whether you’re looking to refill your spirit, rethink your week, or just laugh at two people trying to sound wise while arguing over snacks — pull up a chair, because the water’s fine.💧 The Well — The Source of Something Greater.
The Well - The Source of Something Greater
The Ultimate Nostalgic Playground Tour: Memories from Childhood
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The Ultimate Nostalgic Playground Tour: Memories from Childhood
Ever look at a modern playground and think, "Where’s the danger?" In this episode, we’re diving deep into the tetanus traps, the scorched metal slides, and the pure imagination of our youth. From building go-karts in the driveway to the specific smell of rain that triggers a core memory, we’re reminiscing about the experiences that shaped who we are today.
We talk about the "glory days" of outdoor play—before everything was padded—and how those early adventures in building forts and learning mechanics sparked a lifelong DIY spirit. Whether it was a high-stakes game of hide-and-seek or the thrill of your first welding project, this episode is a love letter to childhood nostalgia.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The evolution of playground equipment (and the risks we took!).
- How childhood interests, like building go-karts, translate to adult skills.
- The sensory triggers—weather, smells, and environments—that take us back.
- The lost art of prank calls and old-school communication.
What was your go-to playground equipment? Are you Team Swing or Team Slide? Let us know your favorite childhood memory in the comments! 👇
🕒 CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Nostalgia Engagement
02:16 Coffee Conversations and Personal Preferences
03:11 Childhood Playgrounds and Memories
05:27 Favorite Playground Equipment and Experiences
10:13 Weather and Memory Triggers
5:13 Forts, Imagination, and Childhood Adventures
18:45 Adventures of Childhood 20:51 Building Go-Karts and Learning Mechanics
22:47 The Impact of Childhood Interests
26:05 Playground Memories: Slides and Swings
29:45 Favorite Playground Activities
33:38 Nostalgic Games from Childhood
37:53 Nostalgic Games and Outdoor Adventures
41:18 Childhood Sports and Activities
44:49 Schoolyard Games and Teasing
46:36 Prank Calls and Communication in the Past
49:17 Nostalgia and Shared Memories
53:31 Building Dreams: Go-Karts and Forts
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#Nostalgia #ChildhoodMemories #Playgrounds #GoKarts #90sKids #RetroGames #TheWellPodcast #Reminiscing #DIYChildhood
Welcome in to episode 23 of the well. 23. I'm Drew.
SPEAKER_00I can't believe it's 23.
SPEAKER_01I know. I know. I could believe it. I could believe it. It's facts. I love it too. And make sure you like, subscribe, follow. It really all the support helps our page grow. So we appreciate the engagement, support, and make sure to hit that like and subscribe button. It really does help. So I like to say that first now, since we always say it last, and I feel like maybe you're not getting to the end of the uh podcast, which is a shame. You should listen all the way through. But true. I will say the last couple podcasts have been getting some great engagement. So it seems like people really like the the nostalgia aspect.
SPEAKER_02So I think we're we're gonna continue to nostalgic.
SPEAKER_01I know it does feel good, doesn't it? It does before we get into that, I have to bring something up.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01You pr you ready? I'm gonna put you on the spot.
SPEAKER_00I'm ready.
SPEAKER_01I want to know if anyone of any of our listeners does this. So coffee.
SPEAKER_00Now I already know where you're going with this.
SPEAKER_01So I I don't know about anybody else, but I can't drink day old coffee. So if I get a coffee, and Catherine drinks coffee with nothing in it, just straight up black coffee. So she'll drink like three sips of the coffee and then put it in the fridge. And it might sit in there for a day, two days, and then put it in the microwave, heat it up, and then drink it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And nasty. And nasty. You know, to each their own.
SPEAKER_01Does it taste?
SPEAKER_00There should be no judgment. No judgment.
SPEAKER_01You know, if it makes me happy, there's no way two-day old coffee makes you happy. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00It's better than none. If I don't have any coffee, frick yeah, I'm gonna drink it.
SPEAKER_01But you have coffee. This has nothing to do with not having coffee.
SPEAKER_00It's called laziness, dear. It's because I don't want to make it.
SPEAKER_01Which is wild to me because you are like absolutely the least laziest person I think I've ever met. I don't even know if that's grammatically correct, but we're gonna roll it.
SPEAKER_00I have shortcuts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will say the two-day old coffee in the microwave is or reusing the coffee grounds.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I do that too.
SPEAKER_01That's diabolical. That's just diabolical.
SPEAKER_00Diabolical.
SPEAKER_01Can't reuse the coffee grinds.
SPEAKER_00Like that's just Hey, you know what the topic is for today? Nostalgia. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I see we've we've exhausted that conversation. So let me know if you reuse your coffee. If that's it.
SPEAKER_00You know people do. And there are there are people out there that take their their coffee mugs in the car with them, not travel mugs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's a problem for me. So I don't I don't understand. We have a thousand travel mugs, and Catherine's still I I would spill coffee on myself. I don't know how you drink coffee in a mug in the car.
SPEAKER_00I'm amazing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, we can go with that. You're you're not wrong. You are amazing. I just don't know if drinking coffee in the car makes you amazing, but we can go with that too.
SPEAKER_00We are gonna go with that.
SPEAKER_01Go with that. So back to the topic at hand, shall we? Yes. Since since you clearly are not liking the coffee conversation. Not liking the coffee conversation. So we got to talking the other night, as we always do. And Catherine and I talk every night. Is that weird? Is it weird that we talk? So we were actually talking about. Why would it be weird to talk about? So we were talking the other night and we talk every night, like we were saying. And is that do other people talk every night? I feel like we have some of our best. We do almost not to sound all business like a debrief of the day, events, and just what's going on. So it's a brain. And the the apparatuses or apparati. What's the plural? Is it apparatuses? That doesn't feel grammatically correct. Is it? Okay. I need my sister to chime in too, if she's listening, which she is a new listener now. So shout out to H. Dizzle. So playgrounds. Now I was fortunate growing up. I had a park right across the street from my house.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01So it had basketball courts, it had a playground, it had a baseball field. It was great. It had a pond. It's very fortunate. It was just like a good local.
SPEAKER_02It's nice. So it was.
SPEAKER_01We did a lot of bad things in the park. That's where I learned how to smoke cigarettes.
SPEAKER_00And of course you did. But we're not talking about playground again.
SPEAKER_01I know. I know. We're talking about the play. I'm getting I'm given some context. Okay. Geez. Did you have anything like that by you when you grew up?
SPEAKER_00Actually, we did have a park in our neighborhood. You had to bike to it. It wasn't too far. It was probably like three streets over, but it was in the residential area. And I actually do remember it so well. And we had this bucket swing that you could get in that was a very popular. We used to have birthday parties there, but I digress. Yes, we did. We did have a park, which was really, really nice. It was fun. So And I never thought about Stranger Danger when I went to the park when I was little. Anyway, okay, sorry, random.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't I feel like we were really left up to our own devices back in the day. So I don't think not that it wasn't an issue, but it just didn't feel the whole stranger danger thing just felt different.
SPEAKER_00You're not. You're thinking of like hanging out with your friends and having fun. So yes, we did have a park close to us that was like that, which was awesome.
SPEAKER_01So let's start off with maybe what was your favorite torture device on the playground? Like what was your favorite playground thing to play on?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so the park by my house was different than my school playground. So my school playground had a lot of equipment and it was made all of lovely gray metal in the like close to spring, you know, summer, March, April, May. It was freaking hot because I was from I'm from Tennessee. And it would get so hot on those bars, like scalding hot, but we didn't care. We we would um did you have those? What is it called? Is it it's monkey bars, but it wasn't monkey bars. Well, we had monkey bars, but they were individual bars. We had like three different heights of them, and you basically hang on like uh gymnastics.
SPEAKER_01It's like jungle gym jungle gym. That's what we used to call it.
SPEAKER_00It was kind of like that, but they were individual bars, like separate, separated out. So anyway, someone on here will listen and be like, cat, like that was totally this, and you probably know the name of it, but anyway, we would swing around on them, hold them, hang from them, and swing around on them. They were freaking hot. Or the like half circle, what was that thing called?
SPEAKER_01It was a those were jungle gyms.
SPEAKER_00Is it the jungle gem? I think it was like hexagon shaped.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we all used to call it the jungle, call it all those climbing devices, jungle gyms or monkey bars. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So we had that, and I remember I actually I just had this thought. I remember being scared of getting all the way on the top. You know, I I don't like heights. I don't get in like getting on ladders, roller coasters. I'd I guess my fear of heights was started out when I was really young. So I didn't like getting on the very, very top, but I did like climbing it and hanging from it. So yeah, those were those were great, but they were hard. Oh, and then the okay, speaking of torture device, what was that the thing you the circular? It's like a lazy Susan. What is that? What's the official name of that? Where you hang on and then you spin. Well, it kind of was that, but the way that it was created with the bars, metal bars you hang on, and it's a merry go round, is it? I didn't realize that was the name of it.
SPEAKER_01What else would it be called? Unless I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
SPEAKER_00I gotta look it up now. My gosh, death defined. Yeah, you're right. It was the merry-go-round.
SPEAKER_01But you had a brain blip there.
SPEAKER_00I did, and I have to show this to you. Can I share on here?
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, if you hit share.
SPEAKER_00Or let me send you the link and you can share. Oh my gosh, this thing was like a death. I the fact that we were allowed on this thing, I guess no one knew any better because it was like the latest equipment. But now you look at it and you're like, that's a tetanus trap.
SPEAKER_01Tetanus trap.
SPEAKER_00Yes, because of the rust and the metal, you know. Now I look at all the playgrounds and I'm like, they have this lovely rubber and you know, little like rubber chips is the ground. We had pea gravel on the ground, and I remember getting skin knees from it when I fell. Oh, and then I I fell off the monkey bars and the my bottom teeth went through my bottom lip.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so that one on the right, that seven that that is exactly what we had on our playground. Maybe a smaller version, but this thing was insane. It was awesome. Everybody loved it. But you know, you could get trapped underneath it, you could fly off of it. There's it's not like there are seat belts or anything. So yeah, that was a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01This one was wild.
SPEAKER_00That was bad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that one was definitely. I'll put it, put it into the I'll make it, yeah, I'll make it in the edit because screen sharing on this in real time is a little bit challenging. So those merry-go-rounds, especially the smaller ones, the metal, smaller ones that you get to spin really fast. And you would always start off sitting in the middle, right? Or you would be holding on for dear life, and then always your friend or friends would spin that thing, and the inertia, right, would try and fling you off. And it's all metal. Yeah, so it's not like a soft hit.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01So and then you'd be like so sick because you were spinning at a nauseating rate.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01And it was just, and it was you, you, you, you kind of know. It's like, do I need a tetanus shot? Like, do I need tetanus right now? Because this is just terrible.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I'm looking up one other thing because I can't remember the name of it. You probably know what I'm talking about. The easy rider. That's what it's called. It was different animals plot like you that you sit on and they're on springs. And literally, I can't believe that we didn't fly off those things or like the springs didn't break. Because I was a big kid, you know, like I was a big old chunky monkey kid. And sitting on those things, I loved them. And everybody was always clamoring for like the particular animals, you know, versus others. So there was like a zebra, there was, I can't remember what all of them were.
SPEAKER_01There was a turtle. Yes, a turtle.
SPEAKER_00There was a horse. There was, I thought there was some other animal, like not a bear, but seahorse. There we had a seahorse. But they weren't fun.
SPEAKER_01Like, I don't ever remember those things being fun. I guess, you know, boys might be different in the sense of how you know we used to play, but man, you used to try and get that thing to go all the way back and launch you, right?
SPEAKER_00Okay, no, I didn't launch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we were or try and physically harm the person that was riding it by doing something stupid. I feel like that's what the playground was. It was a way to inflict pain pain on on others at for your entertainment.
SPEAKER_00So that was just you. I wasn't I didn't do that.
SPEAKER_01It was magical though.
SPEAKER_00It was, yeah. And the seesaw was always great, but it was so challenging trying to get the right weights on each side, and you always knew which friend was the seesaw buddy, you know, like you wouldn't, yeah, we didn't have seesaw buddies. Oh, really?
SPEAKER_01The goal was to on the seesaw. See, again, I guess this is how I played. Yes, to jump off at the right time so they would slam to the ground.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's horrible. We didn't do that. We would find buddies that were around the same. And it's funny because you know you think about science, we would automatically find a kid that was around the same weight so that you could seesaw for a long period of time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01What's what's with this intelligent approach to seesawing? Like, yo, you couldn't. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00We're just smarter than guys. No, just kidding. I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_01Hey, I'm I'm not gonna argue. I'm not gonna argue. Do you budget? Seesaw was I feel like the seesaw was a five-minute activity.
SPEAKER_00All I feel like all of them are you didn't spend very long, like the little spring horse. You didn't you didn't sit on that for very long. We often spent time sitting in, we had the way that our playgroup playground was, it was situated near a field, like soccer fields. And so in March, it's funny. Actually, I don't know if other people do this, but weather often triggers memories for me. So for example, like if there's a very sunny day and it smells like grass, and it's spring, that often triggers this memory for me. Me sitting on the ground at like recess, and I don't know what those flowers are called, but they grow in the grass and they're white, and they're tiny little like you make daisy chains out of them. They're not, I don't think they're daisies. There's some other kind of flower. You'll have to find it. You pull, they have a long stem and you pull them out of the ground, and then you could wrap them together to make a necklace or a halo, like a wreath around your head. And we would sit there and look for four-leaf clovers, and we would pull those flowers out of the ground. They were wildflowers, and tie them together. And I'll never forget doing that. So sometimes on certain days when it's like just the right weather, it reminds me of that. Good memory. That was like a happy memory because it was so I remember the feeling of just sitting there and feeling so calm, which is crazy, I think. Cause now I have like very rare moments where I'm calm. And then other time other other like weather also triggers another memory. Like if it's dark and stormy and it's windy and kind of chilly out, it reminds me of when I was little and I would go like over our carport, we had a like an attic, like a pull-down attic. And I would go up there, and the way that the rafters were, they made a point, like a roof point. And I would take tons of stickers from my scholastic magazine up there, and I would put the stickers all over the rafters to because I wanted to try to make a clubhouse out of it. I was really obsessed with clubhouses. I didn't really watch that, but I always wanted a fort or some kind of club.
SPEAKER_01I feel like every kid had a fast. I mean, I did I shouldn't say every kid, but I also had that fascination with forts, tree houses, clubhouses, anything that I could brand my own. Yes. Like this is mine, and I can invite you in, and it's our own little secret kind of safe haven.
SPEAKER_00Well, I just love that concept. I still, I still like that concept. Like if I could like have a closet to myself and like put all these fun things in there, I would totally do it and go sit in there. I have been known to sit in the closet before.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a funny story about that. Yeah. So when Catherine and I were in different states, like long distance relationship, we would talk every night. And uh it was funny because I'd be like, Are you in the closet? Like, are you sitting in your closet? And she's like, Yeah. I'm like, that's so bizarre. Why are you sitting in the closet? She's like, It's quiet. It's I can just kind of not worry about anything. It just felt comfortable or comforting. So I actually, since I moved to Texas or whatever, excuse me, I've I've sat in the closet because it is quiet, small, and uh calm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So yes, I I can relate. Wow, that's a pivot. But back to playgrounds and forts.
SPEAKER_00Sorry, I totally digressed.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, I love it. Our conversations always kind of twist and turn in the best possible way. I think the fort thing, it could also have been the influence of of kind of movies and TV for us. I feel like some of the coolest things you saw on TV were like forts or these tree houses or these, you know, kind of secret places in the woods.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It just was different. Your imagination really could kick in in a different way when you when you could do stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00My so I lived on a cove with all boys, except for one girl that lived next to me. And she everybody was a little bit older than me, but my other neighbor, I'll never forget, Jeremy, that was his name. He he had an older brother, and his parents had, I don't know if the house came like this or if they built it. He had the most amazing standalone fort built out of like uh, you know, two by not two by fours, but it was all wood. And you could climb up the ladder. I mean, that thing, and it always ended up being the home base for tag or like hide and seek. And literally, I could walk out my garage around the corner and go back in his backyard. He didn't have like a fence. And so all the kids would from the neighborhood would meet up there. It was like the meeting point. And like movies and books that I I read were always talking about forts, and I would I would draw out what I wanted my fort to look like, and it had like a little trapdoor, and it had, you know, like a bunch of like pillows and snacks. I used to read the babysitters club books, and there was a character that always had snacks, and so that's where I got my inspo for the snacks, and then I was like, Oh, I have a TV in there, you know. The Barenstein Bears book, the brother and sister had a fort that was awesome. And so I think to your point, we grew up with a lot of that, you know. There was always a fort somewhere in some kind of movie or book, or your neighbor had it. I would still totally build a fort. Like, yes, please, I'd love a fort. I will give it a fortune.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever used to do this? We used to, I don't know. I feel like as a as a kid, we would cover so much ground on foot or on bike that you had to kind of we would try and get lost. We'd be like, I want to get lost today. Let's go in the woods and just run around. It was like this weird thing. We were always trying to get lost because it was boring doing the same things over. We wanted an adventure.
SPEAKER_00Something exciting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I feel like that that was a good part, at least of my childhood, always looking for an adventure. And I feel like forts and clubhouses and tree houses just added that flair to the adventure of, like you said, a meeting spot or a congregation spot. And at least in my circle, we always had a friend that, you know, someone's parent was could construct stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yes, always. Somebody on the city.
SPEAKER_01Or I'll never, you know, we used to be big into like go-karts. So we had somebody that would teach us how to work on motors from a lawnmower, and then we ended up building our own go-kart.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, and and you know, teaching us things that I feel like you just don't quite see these days, at least in our experience with kids. Let's go buy a go-kart, not, hey, yo, let's let's take the motor out of the lawnmower and and throw it on some crappy rinky dink frame and staple a seat or strap a seat onto this frame. And I mean, I know we're digressing, but it's it's a funny story. When I built my first go-kart, I picked up this really crappy frame from some kid, I think it was like 13, and it had a two by four as the bumper on the front, just kind of like oh yeah, right. And then it had like an old cafeteria plastic seat bucket that was literally ratchet strapped to the frame, so it was completely unsafe.
SPEAKER_00That's so cool though.
SPEAKER_01And I used to rip around on that thing.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, it was so motorized, or did was it like a lawnmower?
SPEAKER_01Really? Wow, this thing was badass. So, and it went quick, it was super, super dangerous. And I'll never forget that's how I learned truly what how a motor worked. It's my brother back then. He wasn't he I wouldn't say he was great mechanic, like super mechanically inclined, but he knew enough to be a hack. And I couldn't get the motor to start. And of course, being the older brother, him being the older brother, he's like, Yo, check to see if it has spark. I'm like, what the heck are you talking about? Spark.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01So he's like, put your finger on the spark plug wire. No, and then he pulled the core. I was like, oh my god. So I learned exactly what spark meant at that point. Also learned that we fixed the the carburetor was going bad, and there's a a float valve in the carburetor. This is riveting conversation, I know. But so I used like aquarium sealer and a penny to stop it from leaking. Yeah, I mean, we just also our pull, our rip, you know, the pull start broke. So the spring and the so uh what we ended up doing was we pulled off the the cover and had the flywheel exposed. And I just used to tie a rope around the flywheel, which is incredibly dumb to pull it. So you'd pull directly on the flywheel. So if it ever ripped the other way, you were literally gonna probably destroy your arm.
SPEAKER_00You know what quote I love? No. Necessity is the mother of invention.
SPEAKER_01Of invention, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And even as a kid, you're figuring out how to make something work, and now you're so good with. With cars and like figuring out how to make them make yeah, you don't have any no, you're you're spot on.
SPEAKER_01When you don't have any money, you kind of figure out how to do things. Yeah. Yeah. I never wanted to be a hack. That's one thing I didn't so I learned how to hack it up, and then I I had I got tired of stuff being hacked together. I didn't like the way it looked, and I didn't want it to represent my lack of knowledge, so I made sure to do things.
SPEAKER_00You iterated.
SPEAKER_01I learned life cycle.
SPEAKER_00It is kind of funny though, the things that you learn or things that you're interested in as a kid follow you the rest of your life. You know, you just figure out better ways to do things.
SPEAKER_01That go-kart changed a lot for me. I know me totally into things that when it came to cars and motors and anything with a motor in it, I was I was all in.
SPEAKER_00So I I Don't you find it fascinating that and I I would love to hear if anybody else has has done stuff with go-karts as a kid. But I think I think it's funny you and I both wanted a go-kart, and we would like f like I found a I'll never forget a blue frame, wooden frame of a go-kart. It didn't have anything in it, and I wanted to buy it. My parents were like, no, you know, it's not motorized. They were like discouraged because I'm like, now I'm thinking about it, I'm like, they didn't have anywhere to put it, you know. So they're like, no.
SPEAKER_01Well, Travis would always ask for a go-kart.
SPEAKER_00He did 14 or something. I think it's so funny. He would be like, and then it went from a go-kart to a golf cart. And I really, and I remembered being a kid and wanting a go-kart, but I never got one. And I was like, I don't want to squash his dream of getting a go-kart or a like a golf cart. But I was like, where are we gonna put this thing? You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, and then it went to an e-bike.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but don't you find it interesting that as a kid we always want motorized things? Oh, yeah. Like we wanted the race cars, remote control cars. Like that was a huge thing that I loved. Oh my god. I was really into kites too. Movement.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, it's weird because I loved I loved the stunt kites. Do you remember those?
SPEAKER_00Yes, those were I couldn't get it like advanced enough. I like the Walgreens kite, you know, for like two or three bucks. But the moment you got a really nice kite, that was super cool. My daddy used to do that.
SPEAKER_01I always wanted a parafoil. Do you remember what those were? It's a kite, but it it would it just was this big kite and it would fill with air. I think I'm saying it right. I think that's what it was.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Oh, it's like a glider type thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, always wanted a parafoil. And I thought I talked about this on another episode, but I was huge into remote control cars. I mean, I know, yeah. My big wig was the best thing ever. I actually looked it up on eBay the other day to see if I could buy another one because that's super nostalgic for me, and to have that back in my hands would be frickin' amazing. And they sell it, they have it on eBay. That big wig was revolutionary for me. You could ask anybody in my family how addicted I was to that.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01And I'll never forget. I was I was down at the beach and I brought my remote control car.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_01And I was I was playing with it, and it went into a sewer drain.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01This long tube by the beach, and it because it was metal, it yeah, it destroyed the signal, so I couldn't get it to move because there was like interference. Oh my god, you should have seen me and my family trying to get that thing out of there. It was crazy. It was crazy. They still talk about it to this day, how how like difficult that that time was. But any case, so remote control car. Anything anything motorized or moving was was fascinating to me. But I want to talk about something playground related again, and we can keep jumping. You got we gotta talk about the sliding boards. We gotta figure out sliding boards, like the slides.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yes, the metal.
SPEAKER_01You didn't call them sliding boards?
SPEAKER_00No, we just called them slides.
SPEAKER_01So let's put something outside that's made out of metal, almost like a mirror in the in the sun. And who thought that that was a good idea? Like I want to know.
SPEAKER_00I guess I guess that's what you thought of with the resources you had during that time. I don't know. We didn't have all that playground plastic, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But someone didn't think reflective. Like it just doesn't make any sense. Because literally it was it was like a hot skillet. Like literally, you're sliding on a hot skillet. It was so freaking hot in the summer. It was ridiculous. It was torture, but here you are sliding down anyway, right? Yeah, didn't matter. And always you would you ever do it where you had people sit at the bottom and then everyone would keep coming down?
SPEAKER_00Oh yes, and like hit each other. Yeah, like what was that about? Why was that fun? The two things I remember, well, the one the main thing I remember about those slides is that we had uniforms and I think I can't remember if we had skirts or if I wore shorts, but either way, when it was really hot out, you'd sweat, right? So you're not sliding down that slide in one swoop, right? Like you're sweaty, your butt's getting stuck to the slide, and then it was even hotter. I would get midway down and then slow down and stop. And then you're having to like scoot down the rest of the way, or just like hop off. And then the other thing, somewhat related, is I remember this my hands smelling like metal and be gravel dust when I would go inside and it was disgusting. You'd be caked in this like like brown dust all over your body because you're sweaty from being outside, and the smell of metal or like the chains on the swings, you know, like they're always pinching your fingers, and then they finally invented these like plastic things to go over the chain, so you know, just at the bottom portion. Yeah, it was so crazy. It's funny how like I I kind of feel like we were guinea pigs for playground equipment.
SPEAKER_01Talk about iterative. Uh speaking of swings, right? Like, well, first of all, did you ever have a slide that you would slide down? It was on asphalt. We had like slides that were on asphalt. I was like, not at not a terrible idea.
SPEAKER_00What a terrible idea that was getting skinned up all the time.
SPEAKER_01Brutal. And then with the swings, the chains, yeah, and and that black plastic seat that was also a million degrees. Uh-huh. And then I don't know about you, but we used to love the swing, and then when you would hit the high point on the swing, hop, like fly off, which you know.
SPEAKER_00We would do somersaults off.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, you are. Yeah, I wasn't.
SPEAKER_00I never did, but all my friends love to do summer. It always hurt my feet jumping off the stinging sensation.
SPEAKER_01We just would fall. But how about did you ever take if you had two swings next to each other, you kind of flip them in and you put your legs on one and the other person and you kind of swang like that was weird.
SPEAKER_00We always did that.
SPEAKER_01So it's just kind of weird how how imaginative you are when it comes to trying to hurt yourself. Uh so playgrounds, what was your favorite? So I'm talking like elementary school recess. Let's let's go way back. What was your favorite playground activity? Like what did you love to do at recess? Did you have any memories of things that were just the best?
SPEAKER_00Actually, all those things. I guess so. There was one difference in our school playground. Most most playgrounds didn't have. So we had our the back part of our playground was fenced in and with the metal, you know, those construction metal fences, and then it was covered with honeysuckle. And we couldn't wait to get outside and we would pull off all the honeysuckle. And I learned this again, I've mentioned this before. I've always been a late adopter with certain things. So, like someone showed me, oh, you can eat the honeysuckle, you know, and we would sit there and pull off as much honeysuckle as we could. But I used to get so annoyed because you get such a small amount from the honeysuckle flower, you know, per honeysuckle flower. But that was always a fun memory. And then like sitting there and making these like flower chains in the grass was always fun. Swings were always one of my favorites. I just like to swing. I didn't like doing a bunch of like tricks off of it, but I did like it. That was always fun. It's always funny what people run towards. And then I wasn't a big I've never been into soccer or like kickball or anything like that. But we used to play kickball and I loved kickball. I was actually good at it. I just didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01One thing I can you be bad at kickball? Can you be bad at all?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you cannot not kick the ball when it's rolled to you. But I hated dodgeball because I would always get hit and it hurt. I think it's the worst game ever.
SPEAKER_01So you know it's worse than that was suicide. Did you ever play suicide? Where literally you would like throw the ball, like a tennis ball or a pinky ball, and it would hit the wall. And if you had to catch it, if you didn't catch it, you had to run and touch the wall before, but the person that would grab the ball would throw it as hard as they could at you. And if they hit you before you touch the wall, you were out. So yeah, we we played a lot of really aggressive games back in the day. I that just triggered that uh it's a terrible name for a game, but uh that's what we called it. It was just awful. I mean, we played some weird stuff like halfball. I don't know if you ever played halfball. No, so we get a broomstick. God, I'm really dating myself now. We'd stand in the middle of the street, we get a broomstick, right? Without the broom end, without the broom.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then we would take a tennis ball and cut it in half, and then you would throw it and you had to hit it. That was stickball for us.
SPEAKER_00Interesting. Huh. I haven't heard of that. I wonder if other people played that. Or is that like a north northern thing? Eastern.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I don't know. I never I never paid attention. That or used to play a lot of handball.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01Handball was yeah, as kids. So growing the thing for me that sticks out, those memories stick out for me because they were painful. But uh what I loved, I don't know if anyone else had this. So I'd be curious if anyone else had this in their in their grow youthful experience. Why did I just I just lost my train of thought when it came to how to phrase that? But any case, I think it was first or second grade. We had something called safety city.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01And literally the teachers, which I had some amazing elementary school teachers, I will say, because it's these memories have stuck with me. They would set up a city on the playground, and everyone would get on their tricycle, and people had certain things that they so you had police officers, you had fire people, you had traffic signals, stop signs, and you would drive around and it you had to be safe. And you would roll around on your tricycle and you had all these tasks. It was amazing. It was like a really, really fun experience. And it was it didn't happen often enough, but when it did, man, that would those that was special. Safety City. I will never forget it. Not everyone got a tricycle. So when you got a tricycle and safety, you were just leader of the pack. That was a lot of fun. That was just great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, do you remember?
SPEAKER_01Do you remember the it was I don't want to say a basketball game, but it was a ball game where you would throw the ball up into that bucket and had the scouts and you didn't know which one it would come out? What is the game that was?
SPEAKER_00I never understood the purpose of that game. I it was yeah, I don't think anyone did.
SPEAKER_01That well, I love tetherball. Did you play tetherball?
SPEAKER_00We had that, but I never really played it.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, I love that game. That was that was good. Too violent for you, dear.
SPEAKER_00No, I just didn't understand the purpose of it.
SPEAKER_01To get the ball to go around and hit it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it was boring. Like you hit it, okay, once, and then it was like, okay, now what?
SPEAKER_01I guess I never I mean, it's not like you would play it for 10 hours.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever play Foursquare?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I totally forgot about that. That was one of our favorite games.
SPEAKER_01I love that game.
SPEAKER_00We played hopscotch jump rope. We did jump rope a lot, like double dutch. I was actually really good at it, which don't ask me to do it now. But yeah, that was really fun. Foursquare was always so great. Although, you know what's weird now that I'm realizing this about myself? Like, I had such impatience for roles of games that it always irritated me when you had, but when it was like overly complicated. So, like four square, you had to learn all this stuff about foursquare and how to play. We used to do a lot of hand games, like Miss Susie had a baby. She named him Tiny Tim.
SPEAKER_01You know, the like Miss Mary Mac, Mac, Mac, all dressed in black, black, black with silver.
SPEAKER_00Okay, dear. Actually, that's awesome. You can remember it. We used to have an another one. My sister would do one with me where it was like really complicated hand motions. What was the name? I can't remember what the song was, but anyway, you get the point. We did a lot of that, and I feel like kids still do that, just not as cats in the cradle.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever do that with the string?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah, we did that.
SPEAKER_01That was a big popular one, too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was fun.
SPEAKER_01How about never liked tag, but like freeze tag? Freeze tag we played a lot.
SPEAKER_00I didn't like running around.
SPEAKER_01Red Rover.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that was one of my favorites. We would play Red Light Greenlight. Yep, played that. Red Rover. I remember because we play that in lower school. I was a really big overweight kid in fifth grade.
SPEAKER_01I just put up some pictures. I'm gonna have to flash up some pictures.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so yeah, and I was such a big kid, and I was very strong, and I was very tall. So everybody would always want me on their team for Red Rover because I was I wouldn't let people through.
SPEAKER_02You're the brute.
SPEAKER_00I was I was, and then I realized later that it probably wasn't a good thing that people were thinking of me like that. But I was good at what I was good at my job.
SPEAKER_01You ever play Kick the Can? Always thought that was a weird game, too. Yeah, Kick the Can was always kind of bizarre. Kick the can, man.
SPEAKER_00Those are good ones. Yeah, we played a lot of that. That was fun.
SPEAKER_01We used to shoot marbles. I don't know if you ever did that.
SPEAKER_00I did that, yeah. Not for very long, but we did we did play that. Did you ever play with this inside school? They had these red cardboard bricks. This was like when I was really little.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00And you would build things out of it.
SPEAKER_01And then you'd topple them all over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was really fun.
SPEAKER_01That was. I like that. That was how about ghosts in the graveyard? Did you ever play that?
SPEAKER_00I don't think so. What was it?
SPEAKER_01You kind of established like a home base, and then I think it's similar to what you talked about the other day. And you you would have a player, they would close their eyes and count slowly, I think, like one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock, all the way to midnight. During this time, all other players must run and find hiding places. So it's kind of like hide and seek. And when the player called out midnight, uh, the rest of the players would run to home base before they caught them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I never played that. Hide and seek was huge at my house. Like I was always asking my sister or my parents to play hide and seek with me. I loved the chase. Figuring out a really good hiding spot so no one could find me, and I was pretty good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, see, we my fat like if we ever first of all, it was always impossible to find anyone to play hide and seek. But when you finally did, at least in my house, my if let's just say I would coerce my brother into doing it, I'd go hide and he would just never seek, right? So I would see getting there. Yeah. So it was kind of like, you know, you want me to play, got it. You go hide, and I'm never gonna go find you.
SPEAKER_00I had to pee. I remember having I had to pee so bad, but I would not leave my hiding spot. I was always holding my pee. Okay. Even when I was outside, like when I would be outside playing with my friends in the neighborhood, I never wanted to go inside to go to the bathroom. And I I had a little accident one day. Okay. And then and then, you know, but I was dedicated. I was so dedicated to not going in. I hated going inside. I would love being outside all the time.
SPEAKER_01It was that was I think that was just our generation. It just the outside was really important. Yeah, and something else that I I feel like reckless abandonment. I don't know if you had this, but we used to so I talked about day camp in the last episode. One of the things I forgot to talk about was some of the activities that we would learn in daycamp. We used to shoot rifles. Did you ever shoot rifles?
SPEAKER_00No, as a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of camp, babe.
SPEAKER_01I was twos. We would have a rifle with 22s at a gun range. I'm like, what is and no one thought anything about it. But they're literally giving young children guns to shoot live rounds.
SPEAKER_00But it was, I feel like that was more of like a camp activity. Well, live rounds is weird. But my mom, I remember her talking about how my grandfather gave her a hunting rifle when she was like eight and he w to go squirrel shooting. And she always felt so bad that she was like, I don't want to go anymore. So he never took her again because she didn't like killing the little animals.
SPEAKER_01Oh, well, I can understand.
SPEAKER_00But I feel like I feel like that was the thing though. Back in the day, no one really no one really thought of it like that. Like you're gonna go to a school or some kind of, you know, like do bad things with him. It was it was an activity, you know, it wasn't like a weapon of death.
SPEAKER_01So it just sounds weird to talk about it in cover now. Yeah. I love, I mean, back then it was, I mean, amazing, right? Like, oh my gosh, you're giving me a gun. That's cool to shoot for archery, right? Like learning how to shoot a bow. Or then then upgrading to a compound bow. I'll never forget. When they put a compound bow in my hand, I was just like, this is the most amazing thing ever. I just want to run around with a bow and shoot things.
SPEAKER_00Do you still like to do that? Like go to a class or go to a probably not, no. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Why do you want to go to do archery? I don't know. I I found myself interested, obviously, interested in things I was good at. And I I kind of not bad at archery, so I enjoyed it because it was a sport that I could do and not get made fun at or fun. Yeah, people didn't make fun of me for it. So that was that was always a plus. Anything I could do where people didn't because if you saw me play soccer, oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00I was not good at soccer. I mean, I don't have good feet coordination, and I was always afraid I would I would like break my ankle.
SPEAKER_01Even as a kid, I didn't like to sweat.
SPEAKER_00I didn't want to run.
SPEAKER_01I I hated being out in the heat, even as a child. Yeah, and it was hot being out in the heat. I remember in PA it was hot too.
SPEAKER_00In high school, a lot of the girls in my class played soccer. Like that was huge. And they'd always come back after soccer practice so sweaty and like hot. And yeah, I just I didn't I it was not my thing. Volleyball was my thing, not not soccer.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and and I can vouch Catherine is a very good volleyball player. I've seen her play.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Very impressive. Very impressive.
SPEAKER_00Did I tell you why I stopped? Like one reason I stopped. Well, the main reason was body hurts, right? Like after a certain period of time, you hit an age, and it's like your your body is not I wouldn't know anything about that.
SPEAKER_01I've never hit that age.
SPEAKER_00Right. I'll never forget every day. This was so crazy to me. So I went to, I guess it was like Arkansas for this weekend tournament. It was like a Saturday tournament. I must have been in my 30s. And I went and I kind of knew that I was getting to a point where I just didn't want to fall on the floor anymore. Or but I I went to this tournament and I played with brand and people I didn't really know. And I'm like falling all over the floor, getting the ball, da-da-da-da. And I'll never forget these two teenage girls came up to me and they're they were like, How old are you? And they were like debating on how old I was, you know, and I I was like, they were like, Wow, you know, like you're really good for your age, da-da-da-type of thing. And I was like, Yeah, it's about time for me to quit. I was like, when it gets to that point, I didn't really take I didn't take offense to it. I just thought it was funny.
SPEAKER_01I could tell you didn't take offense to it since you're still talking about it and sound salty about it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. That's all right. I feel like everyone has that moment. My mom said, She's like, Yeah, I knew I was getting older when when the bag, the bagger kid, the guy that does bags your groceries, he was like, he called me ma'am. She's like, I knew then that I was old and it was funny. But yeah, anyway, we played a lot of sports. We played a lot of kickball on the playground. That was probably. Yeah, we did too.
SPEAKER_01Kickball and dodgeball. Dodgeball was pretty big in for inside. Well, because literally it was it was cream the person, like meaning throw the ball. rubber ball was not with the texture.
SPEAKER_00No. Oh yeah. And they sound gentle. I know. And it would be like smack, you know? And it would smack your skin.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you would always get the more aggressive kid that literally was looking to truly inflict harm. Right. Not to play. Everyone was a target.
SPEAKER_00I didn't like playing because I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01And the gym teacher would just sit there. Right. Yes. Like this was part of a game for people Yeah like wow let's watch the kids beat the crap out of each other. This will be entertaining. Like could you imagine if they had cell phones back then or cameras where you would video like literally there the parents would be like the school system would collapse because everyone would be under investigation for child abuse.
SPEAKER_00So you bring up a good point. I wonder like part of me thinks that's why everybody's so heightened now because you see everything everywhere. Back then we didn't have phones to record crap on. So no one knew about it. You know like no one knew that you were going to get smacked with the red ball and and dodgeball and it hurt you know like we didn't we didn't go home and like complain about it. It was just a normal thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah but even if you went home even if you went home your parents were sympathetic but well at least mine it would kind of be like rub some dirt in it. Kids being kids right yeah suck out weird toughen up. So more along it wasn't there wasn't this I don't want to say lack of compassion but it was just normal. It was normalized in a way it was like toughen up and you really kind of gotta you gotta figure out a way to survive. That I feel like that was growing up in school and it's I'm sure it's it's just the same for for this generation growing up in school although their survival is much different than what we had to experience in a in a much more challenging way for them. But it was just survival and there was man I got the the teasing I will say I'm glad there wasn't social media back then because I got teased and you got teased a lot as a kid. I couldn't imagine not getting a break from that. Meaning all over social media the constant connection of always being obtainable and we did dumb stuff as a I mean gosh prank calling we used to I mean we were yeah that was such a thing my gosh we made so we got so many people pissed off by prank calling them and that was such great entertainment for us as a kid it was. I remember laughing about that being on the phone did that a lot I literally think that that was the creation of a caller ID was out of necessity because of all the prank calling.
SPEAKER_00Right or like what was it where you could dial a number and it would tell you the last number 67.
SPEAKER_01Yeah yeah that's R67.
SPEAKER_00Oh and then randomly talking about phones remember I guess it was yesterday I got a memory triggered about the white pages like the phone book. You know so it's so crazy how we're like oh we want our privacy but yet back in the day everybody's phone number and was it address too or just phone number?
SPEAKER_01I think it was it was everything it had all your info.
SPEAKER_00Yeah and literally everybody got a copy of it you know but no one went around like you know being crazy. Now it's like you can't you like no one wants anything out there.
SPEAKER_01I mean which is I don't blame I don't know if you remember at the phone booth like if you would go into a phone booth they would have the white they would have the phone book on the chain yeah yeah so yeah literally you you didn't even need to get one you could you had access now that was a lot of info in those phone books. I mean you had the businesses you had you know personal so you had the white pages the yellow pages that was that was our Rolodex right like you had to work to find somebody you couldn't just type it in there. So yeah that was so funny gosh or the information what was it 5551212? Well there was a phone number it wasn't for it started off as like I can't remember if it was 5551212 or but I know what you're talking about. WE6 gosh I'm so old I we used to use letters and numbers when dialing a phone number that still sticks in my brain radio stations for dialing a phone number. No no I know yeah they still use call number they still use numbers for letters and numbers for radio stations so it's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah these memories are crazy and I randomly I'll remember stuff too I'll be like oh I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah I mean I feel like we need so one of the things we were talking about is we really should and this is not to be crass or dirty so get your mind out of the gutter people we should podcast from bed because we have our best conversations at night when we're ramping down for the night when our brain is a little more tired but we can have less flurry of activity in there. So one of these days we'll we'll experiment with that because some of this stuff we talk about is pretty funny. It is and then I forget to write it down some of it but I just need to record with the plot or whatever what we're talking about and do it. But we we definitely have some fun nostalgic conversations and we're kind of I'm enjoying the nostalgia combo. I know today might have been a little dry but I do enjoy walking down well I don't you never know I enjoy walking down memory lane with you. It's always fun especially because we grew up a lot differently different but yet north and south the act yeah I know right that's right man yeah question did you ever do did you ever do lemonade stands?
SPEAKER_00That was a big thing.
SPEAKER_01No I wanted to but I could never get the lemonade so poor thing I couldn't get the product and I was kind of yeah right I could get other product I was very resourceful but I was never patient enough. I feel like it was just one of those things where I'm like I'll get this all set up and it'll be cool for five minutes and then I'm gonna be bored and get that I never really did one. I did iced tea I think I set up like a little thing at the bottom of my driveway for iced tea because we had iced tea in the house oh my gosh I don't know if you you ever had this you just sparked a memory and I'll see if I can find it online. My mom used to buy the frozen iced tea it was like this frozen concentrate in a like this tube. The cylinder in the freezer section yeah and you would peel off the that metal cap and you would it would make that noise like that plop in the pitcher and then you would stir it around it was like pure sugar.
SPEAKER_00Right yeah and they had lemonade too in that way I think it was I forget the brand but oh my gosh but I always was tea I was confused by it until I understood what it was I was like what is this I thought I could just buy it and drink it like melt it or it was like a popsicle.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh that's like diabetes.
SPEAKER_00I know and then I then I I realized what you were supposed to do with it but I wasn't the type of kid that read the directions on the back of things.
SPEAKER_01You're not the type of adult that reads the directions either so at least you've remained consistent.
SPEAKER_00Yeah that's true in the kitchen as well with recipes.
SPEAKER_01That's true with a lot of things with the which is ironic since you are you know the guru of user experience yes I know I am detailed with certain things. Do as I say not as I do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah anyway but yeah that was childhood playgrounds were fun riding the bike was fun yes motorized things were fun anything motorized. We'll have to P uh I I didn't like PE I liked it only when you got to sit on those little plastic squares with rollers.
SPEAKER_01With the rollers best thing ever. That and the parachute right the parachute and the roller day anything you could harm yourself in or on was a good day.
SPEAKER_00There was another one guard the castle or something the castle and you would run back and forth to get a ball and then you it's kind of like dodgeball you would put in the middle of the gym a row of balls and you'd have one a group on one side a group on the other we would call it something else but it was still dodgeball now that I think about it.
SPEAKER_01But I would put all the balls in the middle and then each side one to grab the ball and then you would always have some kid headbutting each other or some sort of other physical violence to get a stupid ball.
SPEAKER_00I didn't yeah that wasn't my favorite either but but yeah there were lots of great things lots of good memories.
SPEAKER_01So we'll have to can continue down the nostalgic road and we will for anyone that's listening make sure you share some of your favorite nostalgic memories. Yeah. There's something that that we could all talk about or if someone wants to jump on and talk about nostalgia with us let us know. Yeah maybe maybe we're missing something I had some more topics to cover today but but I think we covered some I am I am because I I do want to talk about something that you brought up which I can't remember right now that's why I can't talk about it but you brought up something the other day I want to circle back to so that'll that might be episode 24.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01We'll uh we'll close on the nostalgia portion today. Now I want to go build a go-kart let's build a go-kart and a fort I really do I really do want to build a go-kart and a fort I will teach you how to how to build the motor and get it all working so I have anything I can even teach you how to weld yeah I could teach I actually do know how to weld do you cool I do I took a welding class in college that's why you're so badass. See you're so badass. But on that note we'll do the welding episode next week so tune in for the welding episode Kathleen weld are you are you art welding are you are you TIG melding melding welding melding what well actually at work I'm gonna have to at some point. I know I will you'll have to share with the audience what you end up building in that case that's another episode of the well in the books.
SPEAKER_00Yes I'm Drew and I'm Kat.
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