How to Build Confidence in Any Room

Discover what your teen isn't telling you about college, confidence, and the future.

In Episode 24 of The Well, Drew and Kat sit down with a very special guest: their son, Travis Perez, a fashion design student at the Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD). This conversation bridges the generational gap, exploring the "vibe" of modern campus life and the grit required for entrepreneurship in the digital age. From selling gum in middle school to launching Nuisance to Humanity, Travis breaks down his "design language" and the importance of networking for Gen Z. We dive deep into nostalgia, the psychological triggers of music and environment, and the "transition plan" every parent needs as their child becomes a young adult.

Value Proposition:

• The SCAD Experience: An insider look at one of the world's top art schools.
• Social Magnetism: A simple trick to build confidence in rooms full of strangers.
• Parental Transition: How to shift your relationship from "manager" to "mentor."
• Fashion Business: The reality of "cut and sew" and building a brand from scratch.

Strategic Link:

• [Check out Travis’s Work: NuisanceToHumanity.com]
• [Watch our last episode on Nostalgia here]

3. Semantic Chapters (Google Key Moments)

• 00:00 - Why SCAD was the "Only Option" for College
• 03:02 - What Triggers Gen Z Nostalgia?
• 05:15 - How to Start a Side Hustle in Middle School
• 07:35 - Entrepreneurship Lessons from Raking Leaves
• 13:30 - The Best April Fools Pranks for Families
• 16:40 - Why College Students Feel Constant Stress
• 18:44 - How to Stay Accountable After Leaving Home
• 19:55 - Developing a Unique Design Language in Fashion
• 24:10 - What is the "Art Meets Fashion" Showcase?
• 28:35 - The #1 Advice for High School Seniors
• 31:25 - How to Stop Treating Your Teen Like a Kid
• 36:20 - The Secret to Making Friends in Any Room

SCAD, Savannah College of Art and Design, Fashion Major, College Freshman Tips, Art School Reality.

 Nuisance to Humanity, Fashion Branding, Teen Side Hustles, Networking for Gen Z, Social Confidence.

Parent-Teen Communication, Transitioning to Adulthood, The Well Podcast, Family Traditions, Empty Nester Advice.

Ever wonder what’s actually going through your college student's head? Travis Perez joins Drew and Kat to discuss his journey at SCAD, the hustle of starting a fashion brand, and why parents struggle to see their kids as adults. It’s a masterclass in social confidence and generational connection.

#ModernParenting #SCAD #GenZCreatives #TheWellPodcast #NuisanceToHumanity

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:00

Welcome into the well, episode 24. We have a very special guest today, too.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_07 0:07

We do. We do. I'm Drew.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

I'm Kat.

SPEAKER_07 0:09

And I'm Travis. Wow. You did great. That was great. Congratulations. Thank you. It's official now. It's official. So Kat's going to be leading this conversation. I'm not really sure where we're going to go. That's a surprise. It's it's a surprise for the boys today.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

That's right. Uh yeah. A surprise for the boys. Okay, Travis. For listeners who may not know you, tell us a little bit about yourself, how old you are, where where you're going to school, where you're from, what you're studying.

SPEAKER_07 0:38

Well, before you do that, who is Travis?

SPEAKER_01 0:42

I said that's what I was saying. I said, Travis, introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_07 0:45

Meaning Travis is your son.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

That's right.

SPEAKER_07 0:48

Right. Okay. I suppose you could just can't have some random person on you.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Travis is related. Yes. No, Travis, Travis is part of the fam.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Oh, it's really struggling. Well, I'm Travis.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Oh my gosh, this is what it's like being here in the house with boys. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

I go to school in Savannah, Georgia. It's called SCAD. I'm majoring in fashion design. I like photography, videography, basketball, shoes, clothing, and I spend a lot of free time editing.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

And what does SCAD stand for?

SPEAKER_03 1:18

For people that are in a college of art and design.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Okay. Okay. Awesome. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:23

So I'm soon to be 19. Yes, in May.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

I can't believe it. So how did you decide that you wanted to go to SCAD?

SPEAKER_03 1:32

I had some other options available to me, but as soon as I visited SCAD, like the actual campus, I was like, this is somewhere I gotta go. And I also liked all their classes and the professors I met there were really nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Yeah. Okay, cool. And when we went on the trip there, what happened? What do you mean? When we when we went to check out the campus for the first time, like you and I, we flew for like the college. Yeah, it snowed for the first time ever and forever.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Like 10 years or something.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Yeah. And literally it was like snow everywhere. It was so funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:10

But what was interesting is you both came back from that trip and there was no other school after that trip. It was true. That's true. SCAD was SCAD was it. It was the vibe, it was the area, it was just the location. So I feel like it was.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

I think we both felt it. We were like, wow, this is it.

SPEAKER_07 2:30

I think you were more excited at first than Travis.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Yeah, I was. Yeah. That was pretty awesome. So we've been talking a lot about nostalgia, like in the past, was it past two episodes, or or like one or two episodes we've already done? We've talked about nostalgia a lot. And so I'm like, I'm very curious, and I'm sure other people would be very curious as to like you tell me all the time, like you'll text me and be like, Oh, I'm feeling nostalgic. What does that mean when you're saying that? Like what what triggers that nostalgia?

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Most of the time it'll be location or like things. I'll be in a situation like an environment where it reminds me of like a memory from the past. Or music is also a oh yeah. A good one for whenever I I'm thinking of the past. Memories tie back to just some of my memories. So I mean, yeah, just so environment, music, what else? Photos, like looking at old photos reminds me of like how I was during that time.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 3:32

I think what's nostalgic for you? Like what do you remember nostalgia-wise? Like what are some of the things that could have been it could hold on, like could be like a TV show, like TV shows, toys, video games, locations, anything pop out at you? Like your mom and I have very specific things we remember about nostalgia. So I'm curious, knowing that you haven't had as many years on Earth yet, so what feels nostalgic to you when you when you think about stuff?

SPEAKER_03 3:59

I don't know. I think it's subjective because everyone has their own like nostalgia feeling. So it's not really like each person. Everyone has their own definition of nostalgia. So I mean that's I I mean I pretty much explained to you how I feel it, but there's not really specific examples. It's just time and place, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 4:16

What did so there's there's no like item, like a toy or something that you remember that is no longer around. I'm just curious, kind of what I would say memorized.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

Little walrus tie plush. Was that what they're called?

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Why? Beanie baby. Yeah, beanie baby. Yeah, that's considered nostalgic for me because I had I was obsessed with it as a as a as a young young boy.

SPEAKER_07 4:41

And I think I vaguely remember a couple years ago you were gonna start your resale business for beanie babies. We were somewhere that that had a bunch, and you found a gem. I don't think it's a lot of people. It's the antique mall. Yeah, it's the antique mall. Yeah, I think it's in my closet.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Yes, and actually that segues into entrepreneurship. So let's talk a little bit about entrepreneurship. So growing up, I can remember multiple instances where you're like, hey, I've got this idea to make money, and you tried a lot of different things, such as the gum. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Like what tell me the the business model for that?

SPEAKER_03 5:26

I don't know. I just saw other people doing it and I was like, Doing what? Tell tell us like what the what it you sell gum to people kids at school.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

But you would ask me to where would you get the gum to sell?

SPEAKER_03 5:39

From y'all. Is it would I get from y'all? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yes. We would go buy like buy it in the Sam's, like a big pack of it or like Costco or something.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

We've just had gum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Actually, Drew had all this this gum that you had it from when we moved.

SPEAKER_07 5:57

You didn't sell a pack of gum. You sold them like individually, didn't you? Like a stick of gum. Yeah. Yeah. People with them. Which yeah, hey, it's a good business model, I guess. You move more volume that way.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

I loved it. Because then you moved to you moved to like doing other stuff. It was like the beanie babies, and then then you did like graphics for people when you started getting into design work, you know. And then were there any others? Am I missing anything else?

SPEAKER_07 6:24

Yeah, photography, video editing.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Oh, yeah. You did senior photography for like people in your class. That was good. You're uh, you're you're a hustler. I like it. You come by an honest. We like to hustle around here.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Gotta earn the keep. But but like no, go ahead. I was gonna ask, what did y'all do to make make little little bits of money when y'all were young? In the same in the same aspect. You go first, like entrepreneurship as a as a teen.

SPEAKER_07 6:48

I detailed cars. Detailed cars. Also boats. Did some boats every now and again too. So yeah, that was kind of my side hustle. It was good money.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

I raked leaves and it followed me throughout my um to my adult life. So when I was like, I think I've told this on the on the on one of the episodes before. I was like, I must have been, I was not 10. I must have been younger. I think I was like five, maybe eight. And Poppy, my dad, he was like, I said, Hey Poppy, I wanna, or hey dad, I want to do I want to rake leaves in the neighborhood. So I made a little flyer and I I distributed it to like people in my neighborhood. And so they come ask me to rake their their yard, the front yard. And I remember being so little, my dad bought the bags, and I I never did factor that in as cost. So, you know, they would pay me, but I only remember raking a few yards because I don't think I could ever finish it. So yeah, I was and then, you know, as I got older when I got I did that again in my 20s. So we had a remodeling business and landscaping, and you remember that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 7:53

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, you you wouldn't know that you had this landscaping skill based upon your your skills yesterday of landscaping, just like blowing the leaves and corners.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Oh, me? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:06

Yeah, you were now I was talking to the other.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

I was like, Travis, when did you do that? Yeah, no, you should have seen me yesterday. I was trying to, we have this like a mini palm tree. Uh it's some kind of flowering palm. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_07 8:20

Don't worry, I'll put the clip up. I'll clip it in there. You can see you could see Catherine's handiwork as she's butchering this poor palm.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

It it was it had all these dead leaves on it, and I'm like, we gotta get rid of that. It's like choking out the the mini palm. And then I'm like, I don't know how to do this. I should. I look everything up, I research everything, and I'm like, certain things I hack. Like literally, I just don't want to. So I'm like, oh, it looks better. And I'm like all bent over trying to hack the dead leaves off of it. Yeah. Anyway, okay. So let's talk about let's talk about childhood memories because I'm I'm curious. Okay. So we lived in apartments for like when you were really little and then moved into a house when you were like four or five, I think. Do you remember that? Yeah. The other day you you asked me about, hey, do I have pictures of the old apartment? And did you ever go through those?

SPEAKER_03 9:12

I looked through like one folder, but I have I still need to look through all of them.

unknown 9:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

I mean you don't have to, but do you remember any like fun, fun memories from the house we lived in?

SPEAKER_03 9:25

All the stuff in the backyard we did, all the events.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Yeah. Fancy that. I did a lot of events when they were little. Still doing events today.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

I remember our gravel driveway.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

Oh yeah. The driveway that needed to be resurfaced.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Yeah. I remember our fireplace. I used to climb it.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

That was a boss fireplace. It was double-sided stone.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Double-sided all the way around.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Yep, all the way around. And it went all the way up. So the way that our layout was, you had like the living room and dining room downstairs separated by this huge fire, like wood-burning fireplace made out of stone, and it would reach up into the ceiling right against the loft. So you could see the loft from the living room space, not the dining room. It was cool. I'll have to get a photo of that. I love that. Do you remember climbing on it? Like it was a rock climbing wall.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

I would climb up and then go over the railing.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Yes. Actually, I I don't remember you going over the rail.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

I might have gone through the oh yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

What else? Anything else? Any other memories? Do you remember the solar system I made for your room?

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Yeah. I remember you painting my wall, but put a bunch of triangles and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Yeah. Love how you describe it.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

And then you paint the geometric pattern. Geometric pattern pattern that I wanted you to do.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Yeah. That was all like painter's tape. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Recording. I remember recording stuff in the house with Jake.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Oh, your friend Jake. He had a friend from school and they started. What did you guys record? It was like horror movies.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

Let me think. I really liked our front. We had a really big backyard and a really big front yard.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Yeah, we did. Which meant a lot of leaves to be raked.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

I like the mirror of the hallway.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Yeah, we had this long, it was kind of one of those Walmart mirrors that you put on your closet door. It was at the end of the hall, so you could see yourself really well. All right. Talk about school experiences as a kid. Right. Did you ever did you ever you went to a couple of different schools? So what what did what is it that people should know about you growing?

SPEAKER_07 11:28

You had on what didn't you like about what were some of the things that kind of graded on your nerves that your mom would do to send you to school or some of like the funny stories that you have, like of your mom either crashing out or just doing something silly or planning something? Something funny.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Are you trying to roast it?

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Might be more recent, but I was getting ready for school one day and I was putting my shoes in, and there was a bunch of stuff. What was in my what did you put in my shoe for?

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Oh it was April Fool's Day. And I stuffed both your shoes, and that was probably one of the best April Fool's days ever, because I actually planned a lot of really great jokes that day. And I shoved like all this tissue paper into both of the year old shoes, like in the toe. I can't believe you remember that.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

Yeah, and and then the thing you remember now. I like cried. I was like super upset.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Yeah, actually, I do remember that. And I was like, it backfired so bad. And I was like, think about it now.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

I don't know why I did that, but I don't know why you're so upset.

SPEAKER_07 12:37

So being that your mom always likes to so we'll we'll pull on the April Fool's thing. Your mom loves April Fools for I don't know why. We'll have to figure out like what's the reason behind that, but any other good April Fool's Day tricks that she's done? I mean, I remember when you got your father, Martin. You like called him and no, yeah, Catherine.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

No, Poppy. Yeah. So it was on the the the uh the impetus of April Fool's was my grandfather, my dad's dad. He actually loved April Fool's Day, and I would always call him and I would get him on April Fool's Day. He lived in New Mexico.

SPEAKER_07 13:15

Got it. So any other pranks that your mom did to you, Travis, or that you did to her or Becca or anybody that that kind of jumps out at you besides the tissue paper that made you cry. Like any April Fool's prank in general?

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Sure.

SPEAKER_07 13:28

Or anything specific to what your mom has done or what you've done to her.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

What have I done to you that uh you do things daily? One April Fool's print. It wasn't really it wasn't really bad, but I I remember I think I threw a chair down the stairs and I pretended like I fell down and you got like a Oh that's right.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

I threw the chair down the stairs like mad. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

That's pretty good. I gotta say, that's a pretty good one.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

That was good to use that. Probably one of the years I probably made you there's a website where you can make people call each other, so I probably made you call somebody.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

You did. Yep. And then we used that on my dad, on Poppy. Oh, and Mimi, my sister. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

Such a good one.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

That was good. That was a good one. Like, leave it to the young the young people to come up with the text.

SPEAKER_07 14:15

Was it you that did the penny the clown? The text that was going around with Penny the Clown?

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Oh, yeah. That was a good one. We did that. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 14:22

That was good. That was a good one. That got me. I you got me with that one. I think it was like, hey, this text, you won something, and then it you would say, if you said stop, you would keep going. So it's like, hey, if I don't want any more text, respond with stop, and then it's like, are you sure? Do you really want to stop? Are you sure you want to stop?

SPEAKER_01 14:40

I mean, there's some it's like the only day that you get, in my opinion, you get a pass for like being a major jokester.

SPEAKER_06 14:49

Yeah. Jokester.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:52

You had this whole list of questions. Your mom was all amp. She's like, I got a ton of questions.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

I do. I do have I do have questions. What are your favorite family traditions?

SPEAKER_03 15:02

I like that we sit down for Thanksgiving dinner every single trying every try every single year. I like Well, we haven't done it lately, but Nativity set for Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:16

Right?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

I was thinking no, are you talking about just like sitting out on the table? Like the nativity set?

SPEAKER_03 15:23

Yeah. Is there one out on the table that you put out?

SPEAKER_01 15:25

I was like, I have my peanuts one. As everybody knows, I'm a huge peanuts fan. So of course I have a peanuts nativity. It's on the dining table usually, but it's not the norm. So that's probably why you miss it. What else?

SPEAKER_03 15:37

Trying to think. I'm blanking.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Oh, I can switch gears. I have another question.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

What's it been like growing up as a teen in the world today?

SPEAKER_03 15:48

Growing up as a teen?

SPEAKER_01 15:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

There's a lot of different things I see. I feel like I mentioned this to y'all, but I feel like a lot of my views have changed, especially since I'm in college. I'm seeing more exposure to a lot of things, like different levels of stress with schoolwork, which applies to workload and my future jobs, or seeing what types of people I should hang around, what types of people I shouldn't hang around. What types of people who will cut you off and leave you behind to burn. Those are the types of people you're gonna look out for. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

I'm just like Do you feel like it's sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

No, no, no, what were you saying?

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Do you feel like life is more complicated?

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Not complicated, but I just feel like I'm constantly learning. And it's not a bad just stuff.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

I love that.

SPEAKER_05 16:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 16:35

I have to say, Travis, you have an extremely unique point of view of life that you don't often see from people your age. So it's very commendable that somebody says that they're constantly learning in a positive way. So it's great.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

So speaking of teen life, what's it like being in college? So you.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

Oh well, I guess I don't know what else I can add on to that, but it's it's completely different. It's pr kind of similar to high school in some aspects, but in other ways, like everyone's not so close together, yet they still are.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

And I've noticed like everyone has I've noticed it more and more, but everyone has their own, like literally everyone has their own thing going on. So it's funny to people watch on campus. And I'll I don't know. I I find it fun to like imagine what these like people are going to go do. Because everyone, I don't know, everyone's doing their own thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

So it's just like Oh, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

So when you see people, you're like, oh, I wonder what they're about to do, or I'll see like friend groups of people, and I'll be like, I wonder, I wonder how their friend group is like like compared to mine. Like not in a bad way, just like just a question.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

It's almost like creating a narrative in your head.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

Yeah. What else? I've liked the freedom.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

I was gonna ask. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

We hadn't noticed.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Do you feel like you can because a lot of people, a lot of college or kids that graduate and go to college, it's always the oh, I'm away from my parents, which is, I mean, it's a good thing. Like the idea of kids is they grow up and they go out on their own. Do you do you feel like the freedom that you have, you're able to breathe more? Like you can make your own decisions. You don't have to answer to people all the time, or like what is it that you really, really like about the freedom?

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Most of what you just described, but at the same time, like the freedom is teaching me how to keep myself accountable and keeping others accountable, my friends, especially. Uh, because at this point in college or in my opinion, like from what I've experienced, like this is these are the people my first year, freshman year, are gonna be like my lifelong friends.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

And that's like how it's shaping to be.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

So Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

So in terms of like long term, you think you're gonna finish at SCAD and then go on to some kind of career? Do you have any ideas of what you would want to do?

SPEAKER_03 19:11

I mean, I'm majoring in fashion. So I'm not even like sure because I haven't done enough research to know like what options I would have available right off.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

But something obviously hands-on, just maybe pattern making or working at like some type of print shop, or just anything garment-wise.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

That's cool.

SPEAKER_07 19:34

So where do you you make clothing, obviously you've made clothing. Where do you draw your inspiration from? What where do you kind of is it random? Is it, you know, so you made these awesome pair of pants, right? You did this whole cut and sew with this, you know, you kind of married a bunch of different patterns together, and the way that you put constructed that pair of pants was very different than most of the things I've ever seen. So, how do you come up with your ideas and and how do you kind of hone in on, I'll call it your design language or, you know, kind of your style?

SPEAKER_03 20:04

So, I mean, it's kind of random, but at the same time, I do pick and or I'll see stuff that I like online, like designer brands or Instagram fashion brands, and I'll sometimes pick little small things that I'll see from these brands and like combine them and then add my own little twist to them. So, like what you're saying is you don't see people doing some stuff the way I do. I feel like that's my little like flair. Love it. Yeah, super cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Okay. So I have a couple of rapid fire questions for you. These are all related to favorite things. What's your favorite childhood game?

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Video game or a card game?

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Either.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

Like board game.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Or both.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

I liked playing Mario growing up with my family, especially my sister.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Do you why like talk a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_03 20:51

DS. Play DS. The DS. Yeah. My sister would have a DS, I would have a DS, and we just chill at home playing together. Multiplayer, Mario DS.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Becca loved playing Mario. It's crazy. She that was like the only time she ever played video games. She loved it. And I it was great. It was a great game. All right. And then in terms of like card or board games.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

I'm trying to think of like a unique one that we played all the time. I really liked the Monop Monopoly when it had the little ATM card. We had that in Memphis. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Oh yeah. That was like the the premier version of Monopoly.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Yeah. Or you had extra for that. Like an actual balance. Digital one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

That's funny. I never realized you liked that. Okay. Favorite snack. It could be okay. So favorite snack growing up versus now. And I know snacks change. Like if you if you're like me, you like eat something for a while and then you get tired of it and then you switch and you do a new snack. But think of it.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

I know I liked a lot of peanut butter pretzels in like middle school, high school, elementary school and earlier. I don't know. I just ate a lot of fast food. I was a fat little boy. There's there's a middle school.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

In middle school, you ate a lot of Chick-fil-A.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Yeah. But now I feel like my go-to, especially like in candy, is trolley sour gummies, the little worms.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 22:15

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

My opinion.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

All right. Favorite vacation.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

Believe it or not, I really liked Sarasota.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Really?

SPEAKER_03 22:22

When we visited it. Yeah, I really liked the museums there.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

That's a really great place.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Yeah. That's one of our favorites. Oh, yeah. That's number one. Lacoste, France.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

That was through SCAD.

SPEAKER_07 22:35

Although Travis got a taste firsthand of how sh awful it is when something happens when you travel. Why don't you tell why don't you tell the audience what what happened to you on your flight to Lacoste, France? I lost my luggage. They lost your luggage. Okay, yeah, they lost my luggage. And how long were you in Lacoste for? A week, five days, not even. And when did what day did you get your what day did they finally deliver your luggage?

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Like the third day in? Yeah. So he had three days of two or three days, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 23:09

Two or three days.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Wearing some random small shirt that didn't fit in your hair. It's wacky.

SPEAKER_07 23:15

He had you had no additional clothing items. Like you didn't have like a small bag of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

So you were definitely literally, yeah, I had to recycle clothes, unfortunately. But when times get dire, you gotta do what you gotta do. Dapt.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

And then what happened on the way back?

SPEAKER_03 23:30

They lost my luggage again. Yep. They sure did. They sure did.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yeah, it was yeah. And and then, but this time was better because it just came on a flight later. Yeah. So still losing it regardless. Yeah, that was so crazy. And we had literally just stopped talking. Like we had talked about you not checking a bag too. And then we're like, oh well, you know, we'll try. We'll see what happens. Yeah, don't check bags in YouTube. Okay. Favorite teacher.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Shout out Mr. Nelson.

SPEAKER_07 24:02

Shout out to Mr. Nelson.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

And who is Mr. Nelson?

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Mr. Nelson was my high school audio and video production broadcasting teacher slash low-key slash mentor. Because he would be he'd be helping me out with a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Yes, he'd really did.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Okay. He uh shot for one of my fashion shows. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Yep. Art meets fashion. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Have y'all talked about that? Art meets fashion?

SPEAKER_01 24:26

They had they they just had it, another one this year.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

I know, but I'm saying sorry on the podcast. Oh yeah, tell us, tell us more. Oh no, no, no. I we have to go into it. I was I was literally just asking if if y'all did it or not.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

I'd probably have mentioned it, but basically this was wasn't this your first fashion show that you did? Yeah. So art meets fashion is an annual event where artists and designers come together and they showcase their work. However, the art that is on display is often paired with a designer who then creates a look or a piece of clothing or several pieces of clothing that match the aesthetic of the artwork. So it was it was a lot of fun. They do a runway show, they have models, and then all the art is on display around the whole area. So that's super it was really a cool idea. So Travis participated in that and had several pieces he had like a whole collection. It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

You had your stuff.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Yeah, I had stuff in it too. Dead. It was right, it was a lot of fun. So what's it like having a sister?

SPEAKER_03 25:38

Um well growing up, growing up with a sister. Well, I mean, my sister's visually impaired, so it's different.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

Definitely different growing up. I mean, seeing all all my friends have like me and my me and Becca have a different bond. But like seeing other people's relationships with their sisters is different because everyone is like, I don't know. Sometimes I feel Becca's stuck in the past. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know if I can talk about this on here.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

You can. We can always we can adapt too.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

No, but I think I have a pretty good bond bond with her. I feel like one year we we were a little rocky because we literally were like teasing each other and actually annoying each other.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

But like are you clicking?

SPEAKER_03 26:18

We understand. Yeah, sorry. But it's it's all love. So yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

What do you mean by stuck in the past? Like, can you describe it a little more?

SPEAKER_03 26:26

She's not like caught up with trends. No trends. She kind of stays to herself.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Oh, got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Like, I'm just saying, like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Becca has a very particular style, like thing she likes. She's not complicated, she's not dramatic, which is rare for a girl.

SPEAKER_07 26:41

She's not as in tune to pop culture as as maybe other kids or adults, young adults her age. But she has her own sense of pop culture. So it's very interesting what Becca keys in on when you're talking to her, and she'll just all of a sudden pop something out, be like, where'd that come from?

SPEAKER_03 26:59

Yeah, it'll surprise she'll surprise you. She'll she's she's definitely surprising. There's people like that at my school too. I'm like, they'll say something, I'll be like, wait, how do they know about this? Or like, I didn't know they were like tapped into that. It's funny to notice stuff like that. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

It's funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Do y'all did y'all ever argue growing up?

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Oh, definitely. But I mean, uh like I said earlier, it's all it's all love. It's not, it was never anything serious.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah. How do you annoy her?

SPEAKER_03 27:25

Physically and verbally. I'll make noises or I'll just poke her. But then she'll also annoy me by making noises and poking me as well. So it bounces out.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

She has a particular thing she does with you. She passed back. Pat your head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

You know what's really funny? Is that my sister used to pat my head.

SPEAKER_05 27:43

Really?

SPEAKER_01 27:44

And isn't that weird? Yeah. I don't know if it's an older sibling thing.

SPEAKER_07 27:48

I guess. I never did that. No. Well, you you had a older. I would get hit in the head. Yeah. We were not gentle or kind or anything. It was very, you know, hostile, aggressive.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 28:02

Abusive. So it's been a pleasure being around, you know, this is experience. So yes, I can I can attest to you. You you all are you have a different sibling relationship than I've seen. So it's good, which is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

What advice would you give high school seniors now that you're kind of almost through your first year of college?

SPEAKER_03 28:23

Shoot. High school seniors? Yeah. I would say first year of college, trench out, do as much as you can. Like when you're going like fresh out of high school.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

And going you picked your college, but before picking college, I would I would say make sure you the college you pick. Or wherever you whatever you end up doing is well thought thought upon and something that you want to do because you don't want to be stuck with something that is expensive and you can't undo. Because I know a lot of people going into at least my college, or not a lot of people, but some people like it just wasn't for them and they just dropped out, but they wasted already that much money.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

And I would say profession-wise. See what you experiment new things, try what you know, and if you like like what you do, like whatever that may be, pursue it to your fullest extent. Don't hesitate to follow your goals.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

It's good advice.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

Some people do get stuck up on trying to figure something out when they could do something and then figure it out later. Take the first step, take the first action.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Oh yeah. Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's funny you said that because earlier today I was talking to somebody and they were like, What would you give? What advice would you give to someone starting out? Like and like wanting to start a business, things like that. And it's like you just have to start, you know, like you've got to do something. Start with something, like create your logo or create your website, or you know, because then that step leads to the next. So I think that I think that's good advice.

SPEAKER_07 29:59

So I have a question. So does it ever bother you when you're because your mom is very task-driven, right? Like there's always a list, there's always something on the list. So do you ever get overwhelmed by her list of things for you to do? Like your portfolio. Make sure you update your portfolio, your LinkedIn, your resume, even though it all comes from love, right? And experience. Is there anything that you just are like, oh gosh, I wish you would stop asking me this?

SPEAKER_01 30:27

No, I think you can be honest.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

I think the opposite. I think you're telling me that for a reason. The you're the tasks. You're giving me tasks for a reason. You're giving me a lot of tasks for a reason. Because going into college, a lot of people didn't even have a resume. Some people never work.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

And it's great. Crazy to kind of see that in my from my point of view, because of how you you raised me. So I think they're it's beneficial more than annoying.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

It can be annoying sometimes, though. And that's okay. But I appreciate that. I know it's hard. You know, that actually brings me to my other question. What is one thing? Just I would love to hear from your point of view, one thing you wish parents understood about teens. Like, are there things about teenagers or people your age that you wish adults would understand more? Like it could be how to how to communicate with you, you know, how to, I don't know, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

I think some parents don't know that their kids grown up and they still treat them like a kid.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Sometimes my dad will talk to me and I'm like, I feel like we can have better conversations because I feel like sometimes he still treats me like a younger teenager.

SPEAKER_07 31:37

It's hard for parents to watch their kids grow up and not see them as kids. So it that's a great point of view, but also from the adult, you know, the parent point of view, and you may learn this someday. It's very hard to see your kids grow up and see them as grown-ups and not see hear them as little kids.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

Right now I'm in the like transition where it'll soon, soon I'll I'll be like considered an adult, but it's still in the transition, I think. Especially uh no, you're an adult.

SPEAKER_07 32:07

You can go to prison. So you're an adult now, you can actually do hard time. So it's okay now.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

No, I I get that transition part, and I feel like no one ever prepares you, like as as a as a teen or as an adult, you know, as a parent, I don't think it you just never are prepared. Because I used to tell Drew all the time, I'm like, gosh, you know, I'm so used to as the mom, being the nurturer, being the, you know, like taking care of everything. And then there comes a point where you guys get to be a certain age, and it's like, you don't need me to take care of everything anymore because actually I'm doing you a disservice by taking care of everything because you'll never learn how to take care of it on your own, and I'm not gonna be around forever. So that's been a really hard lesson for me is when to back off and be like, you know what, we've told you all these things, and I feel like you know them. So I don't need to keep telling you, but I get what you're saying about the transition. It's like you're 18, but still you're not quite an adult yet, in certain terms. Like you're an adult in age and legally, but you don't you're not paying your own bills, you're not, you know, you don't have a full-time job. Yeah, so it's like I don't I don't even know what you call like young, young adult, you know, like young adult. Yeah, so but you're close, you know. So that's interesting. I'm glad you shared that. Is there anything else that you feel like parents don't get sometimes about life? Okay. Drew, do you have any questions?

SPEAKER_07 33:40

I got lots of questions, but so I guess if you didn't if you had the choice, and you could be totally honest, you're not gonna hurt anyone's feelings. So I'll give you an example. When I had the opportunity to come home from college, I never did. I never wanted to come home. I I just always wanted to stay at school. Do you like coming home? Like right now, you're on spring break, right? So if you had your own apartment, would you would you prefer to stay in Savannah, or do you like kind of breaking up the year and and coming home for a visit?

SPEAKER_03 34:11

I think for the winter break, I probably would have liked to stay there just because time-wise, but for like the spring break, which is a week. Oh, got it.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

So winter break's longer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

I would have liked to come home and have like the little week, whole week cool down and then go back. Even if I did have a place out there. But I wouldn't prefer to stay out there.

SPEAKER_07 34:30

Because you have you're on a trimester. Is that what they still call it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So your your winter break was like over a month. It was like yeah, six weeks or something. So yeah. It's a long time to uh have to be thrust back into you know your home environment versus your your college environment, which one of your unique qualities you'll settle down at home and then have to leave.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

And so like that was your first time to be away at college and then come home. And then I don't think people talk about this a lot, or I haven't ever heard of people talking about this a lot with parents. You know, it's like you don't know how to act anymore, you know, because your kid lived at home forever, right? And then all of a sudden he went off and did his own thing, and then he's coming back. And now it's like, okay, do the rules change? Do the rules not change? You know, like what what need does anything change? And then it's like, yeah, things do need to change because you're becoming more of an adult. And I think the transition plan is never like no one ever talks about that. It's not all of a sudden you wake up and you're an adult. It's like it there's a transition, you know. So like I think it was hard for you and it was hard for us because we were like, well, what do we need to let go of? You know, like how do we act now?

SPEAKER_07 35:49

Or do we I was just upset I had to wear clothing. Sorry. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

But it's hard.

SPEAKER_07 35:59

Go ahead. It is. No, I'm done. I have a I have a quick question. You have a very unique quality about you. I'm curious if you would share if you had any advice for someone that doesn't necessarily possess this quality. You make friends very easily. You can walk into any room and kind of assimilate, right? Like you can just you are a a presence in a room and not overbearing, but people just kind of you're magnetic. Any advice for people that don't necessarily possess that skill? Like how how did it? I know it's kind of natural for you, but is there anything do you ever get nervous? I feel like I've never seen you nervous walking into a room full of people. You and I went, for example, you and I went to Houston to do that runway fashion show. And wow, you walked right in there, present. You were I mean, you had a full collection running, walking down the runway. It was it was quite miraculous to see you in a room full of people you didn't know, and you just kind of were like, I can I can chill here. This this is good. So any advice for anyone that doesn't necessarily have that level of confidence or or ability.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

I think that people think about it too hard. I think people always think of the worst, regardless. And I think people don't ever kind of what I said earlier, take the first step to even like that's that's another thing that even ties back to what I you know what I was saying earlier. It's like even how small talking to people is, that's that's still a step. So taking that first step to to up even approach somebody is is something to do. And one of my friends um from school that struggled used to struggle with that, and he said that he would just talk go up and walk talk to a new person every single day, and it built help him build confidence to talk to people or have the confidence to walk up to people whenever he wants to know.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

That's so awesome.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

Great idea.

SPEAKER_07 37:43

Yeah, some adults should follow that.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yeah. It is hard, and actually, Drew and I were talking about this earlier. You know, the more you do job interviews and the more like you talk about yourself to people like over a period of years, people people are like, oh wow, like you don't have a problem talking about XYZ. And I'm like, gosh, because I've been doing it so long. Yeah, you know, and I think the more you practice it, the better, obviously, the better you get. So I think you're right, taking the first step as early in life as you can to like conversate with people, you get used to it, and then you're not nervous anymore.

SPEAKER_07 38:20

Yeah, I'll tell you got a lot of life lessons you're sharing today. It's this good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

Yeah, I'm serious. One thing, one thing I remember that I love about you is that we were at the gym together and you saw that was it that it was somebody at the gym that you met, and you were like, Hey, let's exchange Instagrams, and you were like networking. And I was like, That's amazing. You know, like you were 16. I think you were 16 at the time. Do you remember that? He was like a basketball coach or something.

SPEAKER_03 38:50

Yeah, it was um I still have followed. He was he was a pr a trainer and his son played volleyball and football.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

Or not volleyball, sorry, soccer, basketball, and football.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:02

And he was yeah, they were just in there.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

What do you you think about networking?

SPEAKER_03 39:05

What about it?

SPEAKER_01 39:06

What do you think? Like, do you think it's important to like connect with people?

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Yeah, definitely. I mean, my school, my college, especially specifically, is yeah, all about networking. Everyone knows each other, everyone will know each other. There's a lot of good connections at SCAD that I haven't tapped into.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

And there's a lot of unique people that are still waiting to be found. So networking is definitely a good way to find that. It's important.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Any any other questions or final thoughts from either of you?

SPEAKER_07 39:39

Final thoughts from Travis. Any final thoughts that you want to leave the audience with?

SPEAKER_03 39:44

I appreciate you guys having me on here, and it was really nice to be here for the was it 25th? 24th, I think. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Thanks for coming on. This is Kat.

SPEAKER_07 39:58

This is the thumbnail. And this is Drew. Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Well. And we forgot to say it again in the beginning. Make sure you like, subscribe, follow all the socials.

SPEAKER_05 40:08

We appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07 40:09

And we will tag Travis's socials so you can go see all the wonderful things he's creating if you want to purchase some of his phenomenal fashion.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

Oh, yeah. I forgot to ask. Where can they find you?

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Nuisance to humanity on Instagram or yeah, website.com at the dot com.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

Yeah, we'll share it.

SPEAKER_07 40:29

All right. We need it. We'll have to do an unhinged episode, maybe, with Travis. And then we're like, well, we can do it.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

This is professional Travis versus crazy Travis.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Find some ideas for an unhinged one.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Excellent.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

We'll definitely have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Thanks, Trav.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

All right, everybody. Bye. Peace.