Peptalk: Peptides Unpacked

#10 Five Healing Peptides Beyond GLP-1s with Dr. Jared Ward

• Dr. Kylie Burton & Jessica Briecke • Season 1 • Episode 10

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We all know about weight loss peptides—but what about the powerful peptides that heal injuries, calm autoimmunity, repair tissue, and restore function?

In this episode, Dr. Kylie Burton and Jessica Briecke sit down with chiropractor Dr. Jared Ward to map a practical, ethical approach to peptide therapy that goes far beyond the scale. This is about protecting muscle, targeting visceral fat, calming autoimmunity, and accelerating tissue repair—while keeping clients anchored in protein, strength training, and gut health.

No shortcuts, no hype. Just protocols that signal the body to do what it's designed to do.

What We Cover:

  • Tesamorelin: A standout for preserving lean mass and reducing visceral fat by nudging endogenous growth hormone, not dumping it
  • Retatrutide: Why this triple-agonist (GLP-1, GIP, glucagon) can elevate energy expenditure and fat loss without pushing clients into muscle loss when paired with tesamorelin, protein, and lifting
  • Thymosin Alpha-1: For immune modulation and autoimmune support, with vivid case notes on mobility and pain relief
  • GHK-Cu: For collagen, skin, and hair repair—complete with a microneedling-plus-topical protocol clients can implement safely
  • BPC-157 and TB-500: For injuries and gut repair, delivering tangible relief where it matters most
  • Larazotide: How it helps seal leaky gut by reducing zonulin, improving issues that echo across skin, brain, and joints
  • Guardrails that matter: bowel regularity before scripts, consistent supplements, and honest conversations about dosing pace to avoid the pitfalls of rapid weight loss
  • How practitioners can scale access through telemedicine and ethical affiliate partnerships without diluting standards

To connect with Dr. Jarod Ward, see his website at drjarodward.com or on Instagram @drjarodward. 

For Practitioners and Patients Ready to Go Beyond GLP-1s: Patients are buying peptides somewhere—let's make sure they get the right guidance, protocols, and support.

Want to connect more with the hosts? We'd love it! Connect with Jess at B2BwithJess.com or on Instagram @JessB_LMT_NC. Connect with Dr. Kylie at her other podcast Unshakeable Brain where new episodes are posted weekly.

Ready to explore peptide therapy for yourself? Visit the company we recommend for advanced peptide therapy and one-on-one support at drkylieburton.com/peptides

Want to offer peptide therapy in your business? Whether you're adding it to your existing practice or building something new, learn how to get started—and how we'll help you make the sales and marketing much easier—at drkylieburton.com/peptides

Legal Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult with a qualified healthcare provider before starting any new health protocol. Dr. Kylie Burton and Jessica Briecke are affiliates and may receive compensation for referrals. Individual results may vary.

You have the science. You have the tools. Now it's time to take the next step.

This is PepTalk: Peptides Unpacked—science made simple, results made real.

SPEAKER_01:

Peptides are powerful and often misunderstood. But we are here to change that. I'm Dr. Kylie Burton. And I'm Jessica Brickie. This is Pep Talk. Peptides Unpacked. Science made simple, results made real. Today's episode is for anyone in the wellness space, trainers, nutrition coaches, chiropractors, health coaches, functional medicine providers, and anybody else who's looking at incorporating advanced peptide therapy into their lives to help them feel better and live better.

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Because today we are joined by somebody who embodies that mission on every single level. The incredible Dr. Jared Ward, one of the leading chiropractors in Southwest Florida.

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Dr. Ward graduated with honors from Life Chiropractic College West. And what really sets him apart is his approach. He doesn't just chase symptoms, he looks at the whole picture, the root causes, and how the body systems work together.

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And that's why he's the perfect guest today. His approach to healing from nervous system alignment to functional medicine, it flows perfectly into what we're seeing with peptides and integrative wellness.

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Dr. Ward delivers deeply personalized care, and now he's bringing peptides and affiliate partnerships into his practice to support clients on an even broader level, metabolically, structurally, and functionally.

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So today we are talking about his journey as a practitioner, why he believes metabolic and regenerative support is the future of wellness, and how he's building a business that expands both his impact and his income.

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So whether you're a coach, a trainer, or a practitioner, or simply someone passionate about helping others and looking at more peptide therapy, this conversation to your space.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry. That's okay. This conversation is for you. So let's dive right in with Dr. Jared Ward. Welcome.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you guys. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm really sorry because Dr. Ward is not what I'm used to calling him.

SPEAKER_00:

Call me Jared. Call me Jared.

SPEAKER_01:

Jared, what do your patients call you?

SPEAKER_00:

They call me Dr. Jared.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Dr.

SPEAKER_01:

Jared, it is.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. So Jared is well. See, I did it. Dr. Jared is well versed in peptides, and he we're going to talk today about five, his top five favorite peptides, a little bit of science behind each one, and how he's seen them in the clinic. So, what's your top peptide?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I got into peptides because, you know, my dad is a to give just a little background before I dive into my top five, if that's okay. My dad is a is a renowned uh surgeon who specialized, he's a he's a pediatrist, but he mainly does surgery. He's a residency director. Um, he was second in the world to do a certain type of surgery. He has his, you know, he has a fellowship in orthoplastic nerve and reconstruction, right? So I grew up seeing like the importance of acute care medicine, but I am a very holistic-minded chiropractor, right? So the way I view peptides is kind of like the they're they're not like a hundred percent, you know, natural. They're not growing out of the earth, right? But they are cat, but they're not as I would say synthetic as a pharmaceutical. And so I think they're this like beautiful gray area that can help my patients really overcome a lot of things that they might be struggling with otherwise. So I've just seen them help so much. They've moved the needle when like everything else has not. So I really love them. Um, one of my favorites, there, these are in no particular order, but one of my first favorites is actually tessamerelin. Oh that one is one of my favorites because it's this beautiful peptide that basically helps the buttons. First of all, it's FDA approved for HIV or AIDS patients to prevent muscle wasting. Okay, it's been FDA approved for a long time for this population. And so, therefore, you know, it has a lot of safety research behind it and also efficacy behind it. And what this peptide does is it helps not only retain muscle, but it helps grow muscle while at the same time burning off visceral fat. So, visceral fat is the type of fat that accumulates around the organs, right? It's the more dangerous type of fat. And so it helps burn away the fat plus grow muscle. And I don't care who you are, you should want that. Okay, because the more muscle you have, the longer you live, the more resilience your body has. The muscle is not just for strength, but it's for immune modulation, hormone modulation, fat burning, right? Um, so that's why I love this one. It's excellent. So it helps, and it the thing that's really cool about peptides is like tessimerelin doesn't just put growth hormone into your blood to make you, you know, grow muscles. It stimulates and sends a signal to your body to make its own growth hormone. So it's much safer than like, well, injecting growth hormone, right? As some gym rats may like to do or things like that. So I love this one for those reasons. That's my favorite one. So I'll use it for like, you know, anyone who wants to lose a bit of that extra belly fat, um, improve their metabolic state of health, even for sleep enhancement, because when you have more growth hormone released at night, you get much, much better sleep. So I would say this one is one of my favorites just because it, I feel like it hits so many different things that a lot of the modern patient is dealing with without having to do, you know, multiple peptides. So that's probably one of my first favorites.

SPEAKER_02:

I have a million questions.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna lay them out and then I'm gonna let you take it because you speak so well to this. So, first of all, when we talk about visceral fat, obviously we are talking about increased incident of things like cardiovascular issues. So people that are predisposed genetically or they're just that's where they're carrying the weight. I mean, how many people do we know that have these stick legs from the backside, they look great, and then they turn around and you just see all this belly, just all in the belly, chest, barrel chested men. That's visceral fat. So there's that cardiovascular aspect, I would think is important here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, 100%. Yeah, when I talk about fixing the metabolic system, right? Um, you know, when your metabolism or your metabolic system isn't working well, that's when you're developing those American, very American Western diseases like cardiovascular problems, fatty liver disease, diabetes, right? So getting rid of visceral fat helps with all of those conditions.

SPEAKER_02:

What about what is the course typically for somebody that is using this? Is it a short-term, like when we talk about, which we may talk about? I'm not, I'm not sure what your top five are, but if we were talking about like BPC 157, that's a short-term course. Is this the same thing?

SPEAKER_00:

This one is about an eight-week course.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. And can it be stacked?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, of course.

SPEAKER_02:

Safe to stack for anybody that doesn't understand what I'm asking. Is it safe to stack with other peptides, whether that be your GLP1, whether that be your, you know, like I said, the BPC 157, whatever it is, is safe to stack this together.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, this one's safe to stack, and I'll usually have my patients do two months on, one month off. If they're handling it well, we you know, they recommend you can do it up to three months on at a time, but um I usually just go for the two months just for extra safety. But you this one you do inject, I I have them do five nights a week, two nights off. Um, just because you don't wanna, again, you want to you want to blunt the you don't want the body getting used to the stimuli, right? So that's why you take two nights off. But right I love pairing this one, I love pairing this one with um retitrutide, actually.

SPEAKER_02:

That's exciting too. Is that gonna be your number two?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02:

Let's talk about it then.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I mean, so I started my patients um on terzepatide for a while, which they got good results. Um, however, I like red even more or retotrutide even more because so semi-glutide acts upon one receptor. These are the GLP ones that everyone knows, right? Semiglutide or zempic acts upon one receptor. Uh, trzeptide acts upon two, retatrutide acts upon three. The third one, I think, is the powerhouse because not only is it, you know, the first one, it helps with appetite, right, and cravings, which is the one that they all have in common. The the second has more to do with insulin sensitivity, metabolic stability, which turzepatide has, which is great. But the third one is the glucagon receptor agonist, which basically means that your energy burning gets elevated. And when you're burning more energy, you will therefore burn more fat. So not only is it helping you resist those cravings, resist those urges, helping balance your blood sugar, but it's also helping you burn fat at a faster rate than someone who is not taking retitutite. So that extra component helps basically, in my opinion, it helps you not have to starve yourself as much because you have the wheels turning, the thermal energy going a little bit more. Because what I do worry about my patients who are doing higher and higher doses of semi-glutide and even terzepatide is again that muscle wasting. And that's why I like to pair the retitrutide with the tesomerelin, because you have the muscle protective effects of the testomerelin paired with the fat burning and metabolic enhancement effects of the retitrutide. So you're you're really, if you're doing your protein and lifting your weights, right? And then also doing testomeralin, you have like the secret sauce to muscle preservation while you lose the visceral and uh other fat.

SPEAKER_02:

So that's it's a that's a beautiful combination. And the company that we're working with currently isn't offering this particular peptide. And I'm really hoping, and I have a feeling that it will be coming down the pipeline. I can't wait to offer it. Um I would say that you hit on something that's really important. We talk about it, I talk about it all the time, which is your foundations still have to be in check. So, with any type of GLP agonist that we're talking about, whether it's SEMA, whether it's TIRS, whether it's the retro here, whatever it is that we're talking about, you can't ignore the fact that we still have to be doing all the lifestyle things. Um, or we're gonna just end up, in my opinion, back in the situation that got us here to begin with.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, I actually think you'll be even worse because again, with the GLP1s, um, the the risk is muscle loss. And if you lose a lot of weight, but you're also losing muscle, that means you have less fat burning material at the end of your treatment or your protocol, your peptide protocol than before. So I don't let my patients in my practice do peptides at all until they prove to me that they can regularly take their supplements, they can change their diet, and they can work out and lift weights at least three times a week. If they're not doing that, I don't, I, I will won't sell it to them because I don't want to, I don't want to make them worse off than what they were before, right?

SPEAKER_01:

So that one more time. You don't offer peptide therapy until they've done the foundations, which includes regularly taking their supplements.

SPEAKER_00:

Regularly taking their supplements, making dietary changes, and working out lifting weights at least three times a week.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna add one more thing that I do.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, go ahead.

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I'm making sure that they're pooping.

SPEAKER_00:

Of course, right, right.

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Because people, because this slows gastric emptying, um, and everybody has this like, well, I've I poop every three days. That's normal for me. It's not normal. We need to fix that first because if you go on this, it's gonna amplify that problem that you already have. So before we go there, we have to address these things too. So there's there is definitely some some steps that people need to take. I will say the other side of that though is sometimes people do struggle with being able to make some of those changes because they're so deficient in these peptides that they struggle with the ability to, they know they need to make some changes. They're struggling to make so what would you what do you do in that case? Like if you think that somebody might do well with this peptide for that particular reason, they are they want it. They really want to make the changes and they're struggling.

SPEAKER_00:

You mean because they're struggling because they're fighting cravings, or what do you think?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, because they're fighting cravings, they're that that constant um that cycle. Now now you and I know, and Kylie too, that when we can get people to like quiet down what they're doing with processed foods and sugars and moving their body, that that is gonna naturally kind of quiet down anyway. But sometimes I think we have some tough patients that are hard to get there. So is there ever an exception? I guess is my question.

SPEAKER_00:

For me, not really, honestly.

SPEAKER_02:

I get that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I will typically lean into, you know, going off trail the trail a little bit. I'll typically typically lean into some herbs or some microbiome work to help reduce those cravings. And oftentimes that works really, really well. Yeah, uh for typically like gymnema or things like that, is that's an herb that helps literally change your taste buds and your cravings and modulate and repair insulin receptors on the cells. So um that's an example of how I'll reduce cravings. I have so many patients who are like, oh my gosh, you put me put me on this like microbiome support, and now I don't even crave, you know, sugar. So I typically tend to deal with cravings um that way first. I have and then and then we can consider peptides.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that approach. All right, so that's number one, number two, number three.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh we did number one, we did number two, and now we're on number three. Oh, this one's I love this one too. So I am an immune system guy. Like I taught, I helped teach immunology at my school when I was in chiropractic school. Um, I had like 50 students show up to my, you know, teaching assistant classes. So I love the immune system. I have a lot of autoimmunity in my practice, Hashimoto's, lupus, whatever psoriasis, whatever you name it, I got it. And so this peptide helps basically um clear out really any deep infection, helps modulate the immune system. They're even using it with they're studying it with cancer patients. Um, I don't treat cancer in my practice, but I will support a body that has cancer, right? So this one's thymosin alpha one. Um, I don't know if you could tell that's where I was going, but it's the you know, I would call it like the immune intelligence peptide. I would say just like our bodies and our immune system are under such a barrage of information from every direction, whether that's other injections that are rewiring the immune system, whether that's environmental toxins, whatever. Um, and this one just helps modulate everything, kind of you know, combing through the tangles of the immune system over time. And so it helps modulate the white blood cell reactions, helps reduce inflammation, and just balances the immune system. So I love it for my autoimmune cases.

SPEAKER_01:

Anything I was just gonna say, you give it to your AI people.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. I mean, I had one, I have one patient in particular. Um she's just finishing up month two, and she felt she's been okay, she's been in this practice for probably before I was here, she's been in this practice probably like 20 years, and she was becoming getting to the point where she was pretty much immobile um in terms of just like stiff, couldn't you know, hang out with her grandkids, et cetera, et cetera. And we the first month, uh, the first month of the low thymosin alpha one dose, she thought about a 20% improvement. And then I just saw her, was it yesterday or the day before? She was super happy. She's in month two, she's down on the floor with her grandkids. She her psoriasis, admittedly, is still there, but her joint pain so much better. So that was really cool because she's just like a walking ball of autoimmunity, poor thing. Um, but this has been really a real game changer for her. So I I love this petite.

SPEAKER_02:

So you mentioned it as something that can help support your people that are in cancer treatment. Um, what about um does this help people that have chronic nerve pain? Or is that something better for something like that? Because I'm just thinking about some of the things that you just mentioned. I I'm wondering if that would help that at all.

SPEAKER_00:

It could, especially if like, well, because it helps with inflammation. Right. Right. So indirectly. So that's where I would use it. I you could use it for. I would also try for nerve pain, maybe like TB500, um, C157. I depends, I guess. I would want to know where's the nerve pain coming from. Is it a peripheral neuropathy thing because of blood sugar and diabetes? Then we might go more of a GLP1 route, right? Yeah, yeah. Um, you could stack it with this though, for sure.

SPEAKER_02:

So that's a really interesting one. Just say the name slower.

SPEAKER_00:

Sorry, thymosin.

SPEAKER_02:

No, that's okay. So that everybody that's listening knows exactly what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, thymosin alpha one, t h y m o s I N, and then alpha one. Awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, I love that. I I am unfamiliar with that one, so I can't wait to dive deeper on that. That's a new one to me.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it's so cool. I love that one.

SPEAKER_01:

I think we're gonna have to hear you get about the autoimmune, yeah. It's a game changer for the autoimmune population.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01:

Cool. All right, Jared, number four.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, um, probably I'm gonna have to go with uh GHKCU for this one.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, spicy. This is a spicy one.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, is it spicy? You're gonna have to tell me why it's spicy.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, spicy the injection. People say this is a this is a spicy injection. Oh, yeah, the way it feels, you mean but the reaction we can say it's spicy too.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So I had um I had a case of um female pattern baldness, and the way I have my patients do this one is um, well, before I go into that, I guess, but basically this is called the beauty and repair peptide. So again, it's naturally anti-inflammatory as well, but it helps with collagen formation. Um, so like skin health, hair growth, um, things like that, tissue regeneration, but even like wound healing, right? Anything where you need more collagen, this is a great choice. Um, so I had a patient, um, female pattern baldness, and she had tried everything, right? And it was, you know, we're dealing with like PCOS, insulin resistance, a little bit of metabol metabolic syndrome. Um, and anyways, we got her naturally to lose about 50 pounds, which was awesome. Um, over the course of, you know, quite some time. She didn't really want to do any GLP1s, and um, but we wanted to try to see if we could fix the female pattern boldness. And so the way I have my patients do this is you know, they get the the injection, they do it subcutaneously. It is spicy, it did leave a little bit of temporary nodule.

SPEAKER_02:

Well warming, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, um, so that's not fun. So warn, you know, if you're gonna do peptides, warn your patients about that. Um, and then I also what I have people do is like, you know, those like um micro is it uh like micro abrasion, like little blades, you mean uh not blades, it's like a it's like a dirt, it's like a roller with like little spikes on it.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sorry, the proper name is escaping me, but I'll have the I'll have my patients like do that over their scalp, of course, gently, like not too bad, and then do put a little bit of the GHKCU from the same vial of the injection and mix it in with like a serum and put it on on their scalp. So they're getting it subcutaneously, but also directly on the scalp tissue as well to help regenerate the hair follicles. So that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02:

Now, is that only in people that are losing hair for some sort of metabolic reason? What about like people like men?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, you know, with their Yeah, any any hair loss. Sorry, I was just kind of explaining more of else what was going on with her, but independent of yeah, independent of a metabolic problem, any type of hair loss, or even someone who just wants thicker hair, right? It doesn't even have to be, you know, fully bald, obviously. Um, but that's what um that's what I use it for, yeah. And it was great. She she started within about a month, she had little baby hairs coming back, and it was very, very awesome. She was very encouraged.

SPEAKER_02:

That's incredible. I've never heard it applied that way.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. That was so one of my friends, he's he started a he provides a lot of the um clinics with the wholesale peptides. Um, we have a compounding pharmacy in the UK that we used to supply these clinics, and he is a wizard when it comes to like all the cellular mechanisms and everything. And so that was actually a tip that he gave me, and uh, it works quite well.

SPEAKER_02:

People that are looking for the fountain of youth are loving this particular peptide. And and one of the things that comes to mind too when I'm thinking about this is um we have people that have done standard dosing, fast dosing. And I'm I'm a big fan of microdosing and peptides for right. So um, so uh we in previous episodes, we've had lots of conversations with people about rapid weight loss. Um, and those that have struggled, including myself at different periods of my life, we want to click our heels, lose the weight yesterday, and and move on. So it's appealing, it can be addictive and all of that. And so unfortunately, we do have a lot of people that are prescribing that don't understand the mechanisms, that are not supporting their patients, that are doing standard dosing titration based on the FDA-approved drugs, and they're losing weight quickly, they're losing the fat pockets in their face, and they're coming up with the osempic face, right? So we know why that's happening. Um would this support any of that?

SPEAKER_00:

I would imagine so. I haven't paired this as much with GLP ones yet, but yes, I would it would because it would support college information. It would be it would be a bit of resistance. I don't, you know, if you're gonna continue.

SPEAKER_02:

Not even like some people are like they're in it, they don't care, and then afterwards they're like, oh gosh, what did I do? What did I do to myself? Do I have to go see the plastic surgeon now?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I would definitely recommend this 100%. Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, I love that too for them. There's other options for people that have uh maybe gone hard and gone past. Can you hear that buzzing in the background?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm sorry about that. We can't hear it. I've got F 35s over my head, too. It just I can barely hear you guys and they're over because they they're so loud. Wow. Is there another way to get GHKCU besides injectables?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yes. So there is uh there was I went to a peptide conference uh last year, September. I think SSRP is a great like certification course for any practitioner or coach or whatever who wants to just get a basic education of peptides. And there was a lady I met there, she regrew, she her hair grew back thick, actually just from taking an oral GHKCU, which I thought was crazy because usually oral doesn't work quite as well. Um, but she was a walking testimony to to that for her. So and then of course there's GHK uh GHKCU and a lot of serums and everything, too, that people put on topically. Um the reason why I have my patients do it directly from the vial that they're in.

SPEAKER_02:

Microneedling. Is that what it was called?

SPEAKER_00:

It just came out microneedling.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna look it up. It's a microneedle roller, I believe.

SPEAKER_00:

A roller, yeah. It's a microneedle roller. Yep. Thank you. That's exactly what I was thinking of. Um, what was I saying? Oh, I just don't know the shelf life of some of the GHKCU products in terms of um salves and serums. So that's why I kind of would have my patients do it on their own. Um but that depends on the company, right?

SPEAKER_01:

So I want to circle back to that concept with getting peptides and other modalities because we all know there are a lot of different supplement companies who are starting to incorporate them or have created their own company around these. Um, but let's go on to number five, and then we can talk about what type is best uh recommended, I should say.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, number five.

SPEAKER_00:

I kind of cheated with number five. I I'm you know, at first I grouped two together, and now I might add a third, just as a little, you know, rabbit trail.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, top seven. We will we'll forgive you.

SPEAKER_00:

But basically, this one uh the blend, the classic blend. I mean, sure, every pretty much everyone's heard of this one BPC 157 and TB500. Um, this is just amazing. I mean, I'm a chiropractor. There was one time when I injured my wrist for whatever reason, and I still had like 35 to 45 people a day adjusting. And my I was doing everything I could to help to help my wrist. You know, I have PEMF machines, which are like an electrical therapy device to help with inflammation in the office, for those of you who don't know what that is. And I was doing that for like three hours a day, you know, an hour before work, an hour during lunch, an hour after work. I was getting it adjusted, I was doing all the muscle work, the soft tissue work, everything. And it was like two, three weeks, and I just was plateauing and I was like, oh my gosh, like this is my livelihood. I have to figure something out. Well, I had a bottle of BPC 157 and TB500 back in my refrigerator in the office, and I'm like, well, I don't know why I didn't try this sooner, but here we go. And so, you know, I did my self-injection, I don't necessarily advise this to those listening, but I did self-injections in my wrist joint just under the skin with a little insulin needle right to a risk avoid injury. And I kid you not, after one injection, my pain was reduced 50%. One injection, and this was after I'd been trying for weeks, right? And I'm throwing everything I have at it, shockwave, everything, right? And I was like, holy cow, this works. And so the BPC 157 TB500, you can inject twice a day. So I did it twice a day for a little bit, and then I went down to once a day, and my wrist was good as new within a week. It was amazing, and so just for my patients with the, you know, I do with you know, with just the acute injury, it's excellent. However, the other, you know, part of this I really love is just the gut healing proponents of BPC 157 and TB500. I got into this field because of gastrointestinal stuff, and I still love helping people heal their guts, and that's just what I'm really good at. And so the BPC 157 is an excellent, that's originally like you know what it was used for, right? But it's an excellent oral, if you take it orally to heal the gut lining. And then just like a little segue to my third one is larazzotide. I don't know if you have heard of that one. That one is an amazing, oh, amazing gut healing. Um it literally takes a leaky gut and it just goes, sucks it all right back together. The zonin, if you know the zonulin marker, that's a marker that is um made with a leaky gut. I know you guys do, but the listeners we know, yes. But the zonnulin is basically a measurement of how bad is your leaky gut. And leaky gut is the I would say the start of all autoimmune disease. A lot of chronic inflammation, right? If your gut is leaky, you're leaking into yourself, and that's not good, right? So um it's a gut-leaky brain as well. Right, exactly. So, um, anyway, so any any of my patients with skin conditions, because skin mirrors the gut lining, right? Inflammatory brain diagnoses or symptoms or gut inflammation, joint pain, really. I'll I love to put it on something that helps heal the gut lining. And larazzotite is amazing, it's it's awesome. It's a bit hard to find, um, but that one taken orally is beautiful as well. I've even had seen cases of pediatric cases with terrible, terrible eczema. Within like a week or two on larazzitite, it's gone. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02:

So I get to tell you that I'm tearing up listening to you because in my entire career, and like I said, I'm I have been in my career as long as you guys have been walking this planet. I don't think that I have ever been more excited than I am than working with peptides for all of the reasons that you have been listing. Like just listening to you because we have how many people do we see on a regular basis that have lifelong struggles with poor gut health or skin conditions or um chronic joint pain or what whatever. The like the list is endless. And we, the three of us, have worked with root cause um approach for so long. So to have this be able to help so many people with so many things, not just weight loss, which is huge in of itself. This is exciting to me when I hear that. And I just started my own BPC journey recently for a six-week ankle, random ankle injury that doing all the things, nothing was helping. And I've had the same response. It just is remarkable. And in my time in practice, 30 years ago, people didn't have shoulder injuries, right? People didn't have knee injuries. People know we can that's a whole nother conversation as to why I think that's happening now. But we're seeing surgery after surgery after cortisone injection and all the things that are so difficult. And to have these other peptides now that can help people heal their gut, heal their acute injuries, heal their chronic injuries. I'm emotional over. It because it's just incredibly exciting, and hearing you talk just re-emphasizes why I am in business doing this.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's awesome. It's very, very exciting.

SPEAKER_01:

So, Jared, as we finish up here, you've mentioned how you've brought this, you have this in your brick and mortar practice in down in Southwest Florida. So, if you guys are in that area, be sure to go check him out. He does have a very packed schedule. So call ASAP because you're going to be on a wait list. Get into Jared's life fast if you're thinking about it. But you also have an online presence. And so you've started to incorporate another telemedicine company who can provide these peptides for a variety of reasons. But just give us, if anybody's listening to this, and whether you're a mom wanting to create some new financial streams in your app in your world, whether you're a chiropractor like Jared and I are, um, I'm moving completely away from the client side, going all in on this, where Jared's gonna do both of them, I would imagine. But what's your what was your goal with getting started with our peptide company on on and a couple different reasons why you said yes?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm I'm a I'm a clinician, but I also have a business brain.

SPEAKER_01:

And so when very good one at that, you guys.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you so much. Um, but basically, when you know, business is just getting people a beautiful and effective product in a great way, right? That's all it is. And so I think um I don't have the bandwidth necessarily to help as many people as I would love to help. And so I have a new associate starting with me in like two weeks. So my wait list hopefully will get shorter. Um, but then also just like my I have about 11,000 followers on Instagram, which is very small compared to a lot of my friends, but I get constant questions, and so I just need to figure out a way how can I streamline my offerings and my time so that I can help more people because I'm on a mission to change the course of the health of this nation. Because if we don't do something, it's not it's not doing well, right? And so I cannot stay small and continue to just see people one-on-one. I will do that.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. I cannot stay small, right?

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, like I will continue to do that, right? Because it's what it's the time I have, but I'm also building out ways to help more people in group programs. Like I have, you know, I have a liver cleanse, I have a parasite cleanse that I offer multiple times a year that goes really well. And I'm like, wow, okay, I can help. And people are getting the same results with these things as they would working with me one-on-one. So who am I to gatekeep people's success with my own limited schedule? Right. So I just anyway, so the peptide conversation. Um, I again have limited time to work with everybody one-on-one with peptides. And then also I'm a chiropractor, right? I don't necessarily want to expose myself to the prescribing liabilities, one, because I can't, and two, I don't want to. And so this this company that Dr. Kylie was really cool to bring to my attention um provides a way for me to get people the help that they need while also not using up more of my one-on-one time that I have available.

SPEAKER_01:

So you're you're impacting more lives while still doing the things you love. And why can't we have a bigger bank account? Who said that's against the law?

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Well, a bigger bank account means you help more people effectively.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00:

That's great. It's not wrong. You know, if you have this, if you don't have a bigger bank account, you haven't figured out how to help more people more effectively. And that's okay, but there's lots of ways to figure it out and proceed. So um, yeah, it all goes together, right? So it's not yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Your bank account is a reflection of how many people you're helping, right? That's really what it comes down to. And and you get to help yourself too, because I think so many people have had this conversation with affiliate marketing, and they just immediately get turned off. I was one of them. I remember when Jessica brought the first opportunity to me. I'm like, oh, okay, I'll listen. But then I saw what she was doing, and I'm like, what are you doing for yourself? And then what are you doing from the business side? And for me, I'm in such a big transition in my life where I need to create something that's less stressful and where I can be around my kids more often, but still do what I love, and that's marketing and sales, and still utilize this degree that I went and paid for and spent years for. So, really, it's just another opportunity. It's another avenue to impact lives, and it's another avenue to change my own and to change my own financial future within my family. So, if you guys are thinking about this, go to drkylieburton.com/slash peptides to get started. And uh, Jared, that I think we could like just listen to you talk about peptides for a long time now. I'm so grateful for the last 30 minutes. Um, but where can people find you as we wrap up?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, uh, my Instagram is a great place to connect with me. It's just at dr jared ward, d-r-j-a-r-o-d W A R D, or my website, which is drjared ward.com. Those are two spots where you can connect with me, and my office address and number is all there too. If people need that if they're local.

SPEAKER_01:

So if you were to say one last piece of advice for somebody who's wanting to incorporate peptides into their business, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_00:

I would say they're gonna get it somewhere, they might as well get it from you, and you're gonna be the safer doctor for for them than the med spa selling it down the street. That's what I would say.

SPEAKER_01:

Well said. Every time we bring on a guest like Dr. Ward, it reminds me just how much the wellness world is evolving. People want root cause healing, they want personalization, and they want practitioners who actually look at the whole story.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. And Dr. Jared is a great example of what it looks like when you combine traditional skill, functional insight, and modern tools like peptides, all while creating a business model that actually supports freedom and impact.

SPEAKER_01:

Whether you're a trainer, a nutrition coach, a chiropractor, a health coach, or any kind of wellness pro, you can expand what you do and elevate the way you serve without burning out or trading your time for dollars forever.

SPEAKER_02:

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SPEAKER_01:

You can get started at drkylieburton.comslash peptides, whether you want to start taking advanced peptide therapy yourself or incorporate this as an income stream in whatever you are doing in your life, go to drkylyburton.comslash peptides. You can find me also at unshakable brain, my other podcast.

SPEAKER_02:

And you can find me at b2bwiths.com or on my Instagram. That's JessB underscore LMT underscore N C. And if somebody brought you to this pep this pop this this podcast to listen along and learn more, make sure you go back and have a conversation with them to see how you can get started in business here with peptides. Yes, this is Pep Talk, Peptides Unpacked.

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