#25 Denise's Story: Peptide Deals Could Cost You. Stop Bargain Hunting. Start Sourcing Right.

Denise wanted to do something good for her body.

She found a Black Friday peptide bundle, did her research, and placed the order. What followed was months of redness, fever, and multiple rounds of antibiotics — all traced back to one contaminated vial from an unvetted source.

Her story isn't rare. It's a warning.

This episode opens the hood on why research-grade peptides are so risky — mislabeled products, bacterial contamination, zero oversight, and sterility standards that no kitchen counter can meet. One small break in the sourcing chain can turn a wellness investment into an abscess, a hospital visit, or worse.

We also share what turned Denise's health around:

• BPC-157 for tissue repair and gut integrity
• Thymosin Alpha-1 to recalibrate an immune system hammered by antibiotics
• Glutathione for strategic antioxidant support
• Medical guidance and pharmacy-grade sourcing from the start

By the end you'll trust us even more when we say our telehealth company is the place to get your peptides from.

Peptides are small compounds that pack a punch. The difference between harm and healing is sourcing, sterility, and smart supervision.

Don't let a deal be the thing that sets you back. Denise already paid that price.

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Transcript

Why Peptide Safety Matters

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Peptides are powerful and often misunderstood. And we're here to change that. One conversation at a time. I'm Dr. Kylie Burton. And I'm Jessica Brickie.

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This is Pep Talk. Peptides Unpacked. Science made simple. Results made real. Get

The Gray Market Problem

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this. A 2023 analysis of research grade peptides purchased online found that fewer than half contained what was actually on the label. And several contained active bacterial contamination. When peptides are reconstituted incorrectly, wrong water, wrong technique, unsterile environment, you're not just risking potency loss, you're potentially injecting a bacterial culture directly into your body. Flashbacks of my microbiology class are going through my mind. There's no regulatory body overseeing research grade peptides sold online, no purity standards, no sterility testing, no contraindication screening, just a powder in a vial and a Google research. Jess,

Introducing Denise’s Story

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when I heard this, I couldn't believe it, but it's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

It is true, and it's alarming, and it's exactly why this conversation needs to happen today. Because people are out there trying to do something really good for their health because they're hearing all the benefits, but not always with the right guidance. And the risks are real, and we're going to talk about that today. So we have somebody who's lived it firsthand. I want to introduce someone who is very dear to me, a friend and a client. Her name is Denise, and she's joining us today with a shared experience to share her experience that was genuinely scary. And I think it's going to resonate with a lot of people that are listening. So, Denise, thank you for saying yes to this. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for having me. You're very welcome. I think it's a great story to get out there. I want people to know before we start this conversation that Denise is not somebody who was just being careless. This is not her path at all. She did a research, um, tried to be very thoughtful in what she was doing. She just didn't have necessarily all of the resources, or maybe even was fully aware of some of the risks that could have been involved. Um, so I want people to know that even with the best of intentions, things can go wrong, which is that's that's the crux of this story that we're sharing. So hopefully people are going to walk away from this conversation, not having fear, but with clarity, because peptides work, they're extremely powerful. I think in our whole podcast, we've proven that that is the case. The science is real, but sourcing matters, preparation matters, having somebody in your corner who actually knows your body matters. So it's not a barrier, it's just doing it the right way.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

And the good news is doing it right is more accessible than you think.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

That's what I've learned through all of the So, Denise, um, tell me, how is it that you started down this path? What brought you to peptides in general? Like you just started hearing about it? Like, where what happened?

Cost Barriers And DIY Detours

SPEAKER_01 3:25

So I finally I've struggled for years with weight, especially going into menopause. So I finally got my blood work done with my primary. I hadn't gone to see a primary for years and years. Um, and when I did, I was pre-diabetic. And I and I explained to her that it's I'm clean eating, I'm I'm moving my body, I'm drinking the water, I'm prioritizing, I'm doing all the things, but yet the weight's not moving. And so she recommended Wagovi. And since I was pre-diabetic, I you know, I had an aversion to it because of all the misinformation that's out there. So I finally, because I was probably pre-diabetic, said, okay, I will try it. I did go to get my prescription at the local pharmacy and it was $2,400. My insurance would not cover it.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Um wait, wait, wait, what? Yeah, $2,400 for what a month? Two, three months?

SPEAKER_01 4:23

No, monthly. Yeah. Monthly? Yes, yes. That's why this is that's why this is this is what it is. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

This is why the story happened. I wouldn't pay $2,400 a month either.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

You know, they they're like, you can go get coupons, you can do all this stuff, but there's a lot, there's a lot of red tape to even consider that. And um, so what I did is I did find uh an online that I had started to use for a while, but it's still I I got a semiglutide. It's it didn't help me at all.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Um which just for those people listening that don't understand, semaglutide is just a single agonist, so it is the same as Wagobi and Ozempic, which is just a single agonist. It is different from the GLP GIP combination that we find in Manjaro or uh Zepp Bound, those are the FDA-approved drugs, so people might be familiar with that. So you did originally start with just the semaglutide because of you were forced into this with a cost. I mean, this was they were hard to get, and if you could get them, if you could get a script written, this is what people were paying. Yes, and this is not thankfully the market that we're in now, but this is what it was and how people really got into this pickle, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:39

And because my primary physician recommended Wagovi, I did the research and I saw that that's semi-glutide, so that's why I went with semiglutide. Right. Um, and then you know, I didn't have a I didn't have any luck with that, and then I started dabbling after, you know, I spent six months and I started dabbling, learning about peptides online, doing research, following just talking, talking about different peptides and seeing

Research Grade And Backwater Risks

SPEAKER_01 6:03

it. And I and then um a friend of mine, Black Friday, there's a big deal, there's a big sale in a local um supplement guy who actually provides supplements to the gyms. So she has a friend, you know, it's a friend of a friend like that. It's gotta be good, right? Well, you know Black Friday. It all sounds good to me. You buy one peptide, you get one free. I mean, it can't no, you buy two peptides, get one free. So, you know, I bought two red, I brought a reditutide, uh, something. So then they're like, oh, just order your backwater off Amazon and needles. That's where I went wrong. And that it didn't I, you know, as as smart as I think I am, um, and in most worlds I am, but it just in hindsight, um you can't trust you can't trust Amaz. Obviously, there's a lot you can't trust, but that's where I personally um went wrong in my in my journey, is I had I had backwater that wasn't um cured.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

So you know, it was sealed the whole nine yards.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

So let me just explain is medications to um reconstitute whatever it is that we're talking about in this case that's used for peptides. And there's a lot of places you can get it, including Amazon. Now, listen, guys, if we're ordering stuff on Amazon, I don't know. You know, I don't even like people getting their supplements from Amazon because there are so many people that are out there that are um not doing the right thing, right? So it's it is certainly scary, but in the moment, you felt like you were in a trustworthy, safe place, sourcing well. And what's the big deal about a sealed bottle of backwater? Who really cares? But in this this instant, it did matter. And also just for and other people listening, this isn't the only place a story

Reconstitution At Home

SPEAKER_00 8:08

can happen. It can be in the peptides themselves, it can be in the exposure to bacteria, in the environment that you're reconstituting. There's a lot of other places. In this particular case, it was Denise's backwater that was the source of the problem, but there are so many ways that this can go sideways. So when we're talking about getting it from a friend of a friend, we're talking about the gray market. That's what we're talking about. People also hear a lot about getting peptides from the gray market and they don't know what that means. It basically means getting it research grade peptides. Um, not all of them have come through uh standards of um making sure that they are pure and they've been tested. Um, I don't know the source of your peptides or or where they came from. There are certainly some places that will say that they are, but the backwater that you're mixing with, uh, this is where it went wrong for you. So you were a pharmacist in your kitchen. You took all the precautions, right? Before we get to the injection, you did all of the things you knew to do correctly, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Correct. The swabbing, the cleaning, making I got syringes that were already um sealed and you know, wash the hands, the whole what yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

To the best of my knowledge, to the best of your knowledge, but to the best of what you were able to do in an unsterile environment, right? So when we're talking about reconstituting in a pharmaceutical lab, that is a sterile, everything in there isn't sterile. But in your kitchen, not so much. You've got the dogs running through, we've got the kids touching the counters, we've got, you know, everything is possible to come into contact despite taking all those precautions to be sterile when you're mixing. So you've got your peptides that you've gotten from a friend of a friend, you've got your backwater that you got from Amazon, you've done your research, and and it was based largely on your starting with your journey from what your doctor prescribed to wanting to do better for your health because you were understanding that peptides are where it's at.

Injection Reactions Escalate

SPEAKER_00 10:08

So what happened? So what happened?

SPEAKER_01 10:10

So I started the injections, and they're it was close, so it's got it's somewhat of a spicy injection. So it had um like red welts each injection. So I had started them just one, like there, it's a daily five times a week. At least that's how I was doing it or was planning to do it. And so I did it maybe three times, and then I was okay, these are really spicy, researching what you can do to make it so it's not so red, and that if like I'm not gonna, I'm not going to increase to every day if this is what it's like. So then it was like, well, maybe if I add more backwater, you know, based on you know, Reddit, whatever's out there, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'll add more backwater, and then that maybe it won't be so spicy. Um, you know, there's I you ice it, there's so many different, you know, I'm a mad scientist in my for my own body. But I so I added more backwater, and then at that point, that's where it I had a really bad um red welt that just got worse and worse, and it got really, really red. It was before Christmas. It was so red. I I did a doctor on demand, and she had me draw a circle around it, like it was growing. And then, you know, I started getting rashes, I was running a fever. Um, and I could feel like the pit, like I went for a walk and I could feel the pain just going up my leg and then up my side just from the pain from that. And it was like, all right, I got on antibiotics as as soon as right away. Um, and then that was through Christmas. I was I was traveling, I was out of town. As soon as I got back to my home, I went to urgent care. Um, they gave me some some new antibiotics, and then um I then walked improving during that time, like so with the first obviously

Antibiotics, Urgent Care, Dermatology

SPEAKER_01 12:05

injections, but were you improving from that first round? So it it was negligible. So I draw a circle around, she said to draw a circle around, so it kind of it kind of started to expand around the circle, but then it did kind of stop expanding. That's really all it did was like stop it momentarily. And then I was taking the antibiotics and it kind of subsided, barely subsided as far as you know, there was no more pain per se, but it was still red, it was still, it hadn't really gone down too much. And then um the urgent care put me on a different, um, a stronger antibiotic. And then when I went to my primary, she gave me that same antibiotic, and she's like, Well, we could either go with the same or we could give you a stronger antibiotic. Um, we went with the same, but then I had taken a week off. I thought it would be okay, and it started coming back again. So she gave me a stronger antibiotic, and I did two antibiotic rounds, and you thought you were good. You said that point it was three antibiotic rounds.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

Oh, that was three, okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Yeah, because when I was in uh when I was in Tennessee, I had gotten on Doctor on demand, I had gotten one round, came back to New York, got a got a round from um urgent care, and then I got a second round from my doctor.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Um Denise, what's the time span on this? So you did the injection, you got I did the yeah, yeah. Across what, a month or two? What are we looking at? With all your antibiotics.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yeah, it was it it was it was so freaking scary. Um, so it was probably the week, the week and a half before Christmas. I want to say it was like December 11th, 13th, something like that. The following week, it's I'm like, well, this isn't this isn't right. So um then I did Doctor on Demand. It was probably the Monday before Christmas. And then when I got Christmas. Yeah. So then I went through Christmas and came home um 28th, went to urgent care, and then I was at my doctor's office a week later. And then um I called her back because it seemed like it was gonna be okay, like it was taking a turn, and that you know, I'd already been on how many weeks? It was we four, six weeks on antibiotics, and so I think we're okay. And then, you know, I finished out that dosage and then it seemed to cut start to come back. And so I called her up and I'm like, um, I just I, you know, I ran out, it's out for a week, but I feel like now it's coming back. Um, so then she prescribed the higher dose that it was a different medication that was stronger or a different antibiotic that was stronger. I was on two doses of that, so that was probably 20 days, because it was 10 days each dose. That was probably 20 days. Um after the second, after the second dosage, uh a friend of mine recommended a dermatologist. I had never thought of this, and I wish I had done this sooner. I I called a dermatologist and I said, Well, this is what I'm experiencing. Is this the right place? And they're like, No, no, this is the right place. Come and see us. Because I'm like, okay, they said if I wanted to go to the emergency

Infection Stages And Sepsis Warning

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room, I could have it lanced and that they could do they could they could do whatever. And I'm like, that that was that was terrify that was more terrifying. I'm like, can't the antibiotics just do their job? But can I go someplace to have it dream or something or something? Yeah. Yes, yeah. So um I did go to the dermatologist said, Yeah, that's definitely them. But at that point, um, he did say, he's like, no, this looks like he goes, your infection is gone. It's just inflamed at this point. Come back in four weeks if you still exist. So that was probably um, I want to say three weeks ago now. So I still have a mark. Um the the nodule is gone. Like it was a big, you know, like you could tell there was like just, you know, what what they said is like your body will will like ward itself, it'll protect itself, so it'll create a wall around it. So um, yeah, so it was probably, you know, it was a good six to eight weeks. And then I think um, yeah, it was just it was just pretty scary because I've been on Ivy antibiotics in the past, hospitalized from it. So it was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Yeah, these are this is no joke when you're doing this. I first of all, I'm grateful that you paid attention because I think a lot of people would just kind of blow it off. It'll get better, get it'll get better, you know, and you thankfully got attention right away. You knew something was wrong. Um, obviously, you didn't know that it was gonna take you down this path for this long, and here you are because the time of this recording, we are now close to three months. We're getting close to three months from the time that this happened. So you still have the mark on your skin where it was three months later.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

That's true. I literally took the injection almost three months ago, and I still have a mark. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

That is wild. I'm just gonna go over a couple of things for people to kind of understand how serious this can be. When we get an infection and injection site, which can come from other places, but the risk is much higher when when we're doing what happened here. Um, a local skin infection cellulitis, it's the most common first stage of an infection. So you're gonna see redness spreading around the injection site, warmth, swelling, pain or tenderness, and possibly a fever, all those things that you experienced. But if

Not Giving Up On Peptides

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you don't do what Denise did and you leave it to be untreated, you can get an abscess. So the bacteria is going to become trapped and form this pocket of pus, then you can see like a more painful lump, um, increased swelling. You might need to drain that, like you were talking about going in, getting that lance to drain it. Um, and the skin is going to become really tight and shiny. So the abscess often does require a lancing, something like that. In your particular case, you just kept fighting through with the antibiotics so that you didn't have to do that. And if none of that works, it can go even deep deeper and impact muscle tissue, fascia, or other nearby structures. I mean, think some of your organs that could get into trouble. Um, sepsis, it's a really big one.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Sepsis is the worst case. Let's sepsis worse.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Yep, worst case scenario. Um, that's gonna show you show up in fever and chills, a rapid heart rate, confusion, low blood pressure.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

When your infection goes, body like spreads your entire it's in your blood, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

It's big time serious. Um, and left again, if if unfortunately we get to the point of sepsis and that we are not able to respond, then we have tissue damage, um, long-term scarring, and potentially death. So super serious. So thank goodness you paid attention, you didn't ignore it, and you got treatment right away because clearly three months later, you are sh you still

Healing With BPC And TA1

SPEAKER_00 19:15

have it. It's still there, middle marks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Only interesting thing that the doctor on demand said is like when you have a subcutaneous injection like that, if it gets infected, it can so easily go throughout your body because of the location of the where we do these injections. Right. So that's where it's like, don't mess. She's like, whatever, if it starts to get worse in this antibiotic, it's just please see just see somebody right away. She was, you know, very clear on that. So it was like, all right, it seemed to hold up and seem, but yeah, it just wasn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

Did it scare you away from peptides forever?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Oh, frick, no.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

No, no, because so this is the bigger, even bigger message, right? We're yes, because they're such powerful tools and you know that you've come through this infection. Um, we know why it happened. Uh, you're not afraid of using peptides to help you on your health journey and help do other things for you. So I'm so grateful. Most people would probably be, I'm never doing that again. But I think one of the things, because I know that you have ordered with us with our telemedicine platform now that there is a difference in sourcing. That's a that's kind of a big deal, like getting safe sourcing for these things to avoid these things.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Well, they use your peptides to help me heal. I went to a drip bar to get immediate, like I immediately did a glutathione drip the first of the year. Like I did, you know, so yeah, I was like, well, I got just uh um speed dial. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

She's lucky she has one of those locally to where she lives. A lot of people don't know. I was shocked for that. Right, right. That was very helpful.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

You can get glutathione through the telemedicine platform too. You sure can. Yeah. And I know you've outside of recording, we've dropped people do uh coffee enemas. If you don't want to do your coffee enema, just switch it out and pump yourself full of glutathione right then and there.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Yeah. So Denise also. She has also done one of your favorites, uh, right? You're doing the BPC, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Wolverine stack, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Are you doing the capsules or the injections?

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Injections. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Even after that, she's still doing injections.

Bro Science Vs Medical Oversight

SPEAKER_00 21:30

I'm like, I got nothing on it then. I got I'm just a horse. That's all. Kylie, Kylie hasn't ventured into the world of injections. So we may have we may have scared her off, but hopefully we didn't. She's confident in where we get our peptides, so I don't think that this is a story that will scare her. Here's the deal there are so many the peptides people think are new. They think that this is new science. We have been doing our job to educate people to let them know that they have not only been, I mean, insulin 100 years old, um G. LPs, a couple of decades we've been using them. Actually, a lot of these have been around for decades they've been used, but you started to see what they call broscience. I don't know if you guys have heard this term or not, but bro science where everybody, the guys in the gym stumbled into these and they became really experts in using peptides to um have better gains in the gym. I'm not talking just muscle, I'm talking about recovery, I'm talking about um targeted weight goals, whatever it is. Like they really are the ones that brought it to the forefront, but these were things that were not accessible, right? So there is what they call broscience that's out there that is teaching people how to get them, where to get them, and all that kind of stuff. But we are dabbling in the gray market. We are dabbling in areas of research grade peptides, which are not always necessarily purified. Um, we don't have to, they don't often give you where these peptides are coming from. They may have other ingredients inside them outside of the peptide themselves, which is dangerous to the body. But all of that said, you're also taking your you're risking yourself by reconstituting based on Google research, your dosage, you have no medical oversight, you don't know if anybody's looking for contraindications. Um, you could be putting B12 in your body, and it is the last thing that you need because your B12 levels might be high. Um, so not having any medical oversight is really important, but in this particular case, the infection risk is really great when we're doing all the right things, doing all the right research. Um, Denise is brilliant. She's a she's an engineer, she is one of the smartest people you will ever meet. This was not something that was done without a lot of thoughtful, um, careful research before she made the choice to do this. And unfortunately, she had a not so

Safe Access And Education

SPEAKER_00 23:55

great outcome. I mean, great in the fact that thank God you're still here. I did the infection so that well, but yeah, obviously a story to share, which I appreciate you sharing with us. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

We should get you on a follow-up in like a year. Now that you've got the right source of peptides. Yes, yes. Now, how are you feeling? Well, we'll we'll follow up on that.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Well, I definitely feel like the healing has helped tremendously just with the wolverine and the ta. What is that? What's the other one I'm taking? The T A?

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Our other favorite T A one, Themason L1. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Yep. I'm a month two, so I started that in January, and that was really when things just started to zapparate out. Like there was it was like that, like because it I did. I had that what did you call the abscess? Yeah, I had that abscess and it just would not go anywhere. Like it was like barely moving.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

And until once I started, like it was like well, so people know the reason that I suggested that to that stack to Denise was for the healing benefit. So we had the BPC that Kylie loves, that I love. We talk about it a lot because that's gonna help heal soft tissue, smooth tissue, um, and gut health. All of that is really important because we know that she has this injury, um, but also the TA1, which helps to modulate the immune system. So we needed her immune system to be incredibly strong to help fight this infection. So TA1, we've talked about this before. It's for people that have autoimmune condition, that their uh um immune response is overactive. And we have people that are maybe always getting sick or don't heal really well, and we need that to boost up the immune system. And in this particular case, she'd been on many, many antibiotics, which is gonna knock down that immune function, not because she wasn't doing okay previously, but with five rounds of antibiotics or whatever it was, I think it was five, right? Six six rounds, okay. Six rounds of antibiotics, your immune system was not happy. So the TA1 really has come in here, and like you said, in a month's time, and that and the BPC really saw a major like improvement in what you were doing. So I I love that for you. I'm really glad. Thank you for sharing

Blood Markers And Next Steps

SPEAKER_00 25:59

your story, Denise.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Thank you for being very willing to open up and be like, look, this is what happened to me. Please be careful and do things right.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

That's it. It's yeah, like big pharma is making it really hard for us to get what we need. And then, you know, it's we do we all, you know, longevity, health, it's you know, it's it's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

We all want to feel our best in the long run, feel better longer. That's all of our goals. It doesn't matter if you're 10 or 20 or 75, like that's our goal. And I'm glad that we have the peptides in a much safer source now to get access to them. Yes, yes on a bigger scale. Yeah, a thousand percent is accessibility.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Yeah, and I a thousand percent believe in the peptides, so I was like, I'm getting them somehow. Now I'm getting them right.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

I'm not giving up on myself yet. Love it.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Well, listen, if today's conversation sparked something in you, if you're curious about how those peptides work, we talk about it over and over again in our podcast. But I think one of the most important takeaways here is how that we are going to access peptides safely and responsibly. You can follow me on Instagram. I am jessb.talkshealth. You can also get me on my website, b2bwith.com backslash peptides. Either way, you can find your path to start sourcing peptides safely. In there, I also sell uh we'll share lots of education around them so you can continue learning and obviously all the other wonderful episodes of this podcast that Kylie and I have put together. Kylie?

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Speaking of infections, let's dive into the infection markers in our blood work on this episode and talk about where you can see them, not necessarily like visibly on the skin like Denise, but on the low grade level where your body's constantly fighting these things and you're just not feeling the way that you want to feel. Let's dive

Favorite Peptides And Wrap

SPEAKER_02 28:00

into our labs and the next approach. If you'd like to grab your mini blood work and peptides guide, go to my website at Dr. Kylie Burton, where you can also order your peptides and find resources on how to incorporate this into your business as well. I'm Dr. Kylie and this is Jessica. Thank you, Denise, for joining us today. This is pep talk. Peptides. Sorry. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

No, you're good. Go ahead. I just met with my doctor yesterday doing my blood work. So I'm I'm happy to report that it's all good. So there is the markers for infection, and that's there's none. My blood is good. So I'm like, oh, hallelujah. So thank you. Yay, good. Congratulations. Peptides, thank you. Yes, for your guidance. It's yes, it's great. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

And peptides are great. And the more we learn, the more we're fascinated by them. Like I've reiterated multiple times, I want to try them all at some point. Just and then just to see what happens, how I feel on each one. Um, but we do have our favorites to get started. If you are thinking about getting started or switching over onto our platform, we recommend both. But our favorites are the GLPs, the BPC 157 and TB500, as you mentioned beforehand. We love T A1, and what's newly available is MOT C. And when you're talking about energy and healing cells, MOT C is a must. So, Denise, I bet that one's gonna come down your pipeline at some point this year. All right, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Thank you.