#39 From Skeptic to Believer: Dr. Stella (a Pharmacist) Unpacks Peptides & Menopause

Menopause can sneak up as a thousand “small” problems that somehow add up to feeling unlike yourself: 

• low energy, 
• poor sleep, 
• rising inflammation, 
• cravings that feel louder than your willpower, 
• and a body that no longer responds to the old playbook. 

We sit down with Stella, a pharmacist and natural hormone practitioner, to talk about peptides for menopause with a clear priority: safety, sourcing, and realistic expectations over hype. 

In this episode, you'll learn Stella's top 3 peptides for menopause and why they work so well: BPC-157 / TB-500, Sermorelin, GLP1 / GIP

Did you know there's a special add-on you can choose when purchasing your GLP1 / GIP through our recommended telemedicine company? Most people choose B12 because of familiarity but the other two options are fantastic too. We break L-carnitine and Glycine down so you can make the most educated decision.  

Are you still on the fence? This gives you a grounded way to choose one next step, not a whole new personality. Or maybe you need to know what peptide to add next? Your answers are inside. 

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Connect with Stella at drstellarx.com/peptides or email at hello@drstellarx.com

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Transcript

Peptides, Hype, And The Goal

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Peptides are powerful and often misunderstood.

SPEAKER_00 0:06

And we're here to change that one conversation at a time. I'm Dr. Kylie Burton. And I'm Jessica Brickie.

SPEAKER_01 0:13

This is Pep Talk, Peptides Unpacked. Science made simple, results made real. Now I'm at an expo a couple months ago now, maybe two or three months ago. And I have three four by six cards. One is for thyroid and peptides, one is for inflammation and peptides, and the other one is for autoimmune and peptides. And I texted Stella and Jess, and I said, I need a menopause and peptides

Why Menopause Meets Peptides Today

SPEAKER_01 0:44

card. So that's our topic today: menopause and peptides. And Stella is an expert. So we've invited her on. She's also a pharmacist, so she's got a lot of background. She's also one of the team leaders in our team. When you join on as an affiliate under us, you get Stella and her pharmacy background, which we have used on very many occasions.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

So Stella, welcome aboard. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. So happy to be here today.

Stella’s Early Skepticism And What Changed

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Walk us through the first time you were introduced to peptides.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Well, I actually had a pretty negative bias towards peptides to begin with. I even better well, I own a natural hormone balancing weight loss company in Ormond Beach, Florida. And I've had that since 2017. So when peptides came on the market and became quite well known and being used throughout, you know, I had three to five women a week coming into our centers saying, I feel terrible. This took away all the joy of my life. I'm just so sick. I just can't stand it. Or the ones that were just terrified by didn't want to try. So I was seeing a lot of negative side effects. And of course, my my program is an all-natural-based program. And so I just kind of had a real bias against it. And then I noticed as time went on, we had less and less people coming in in such a crisis. We still have women coming in that were having trouble, but less and less in crisis. And that really kind of made me take a look back and go, okay, what's going on? And it really was. It was just they came out with the terzepatide, the second compound of what we know as the typical GLPs for weight loss. And it's interesting because on paper they have the same side effect profile. But in practice, we actually see a lot less of the GI side effects with the GLP GIP than we do for most people with the just GLP alone. And I won't get into that a whole lot here, unless we don't want to dive into it a little bit more. Um, I always say it's really simple to think of the GLP is the one that slows the gut the most. When we added on a second unit, we didn't need as much of the GLP. It's much more nuanced than that, but that's a way that people can kind of help keep us straight.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Yeah.

Safety, Sourcing, And Responsible Use

SPEAKER_01 3:07

I'll just throw a little side bit, side note out because I've had a lot of conversations with Kairos, with Natural Paths, with health professionals. And they're like, what do I do? I've been so negative, so against GLPs. And now I'm starting to listen and I'm starting to realize I might be wrong. How do I make that transition? And it's not that we're we're for it, because all three of us are against peptides when they are done incorrectly. That's very true. And that's the reality is that we're against the peptides when they are done inappropriately, with bad sourcing, and not with a pharmaceutical prescription and oversight.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

So I feel like that's a good transition that you had. Look, these things are ugly. They're causing big side effects. Oh, wait. They can be ugly, they can cause big side effects, but when you do them correctly underneath the right supervision with the right sourcing, pretty cool things can happen.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

Yes. And and I felt like I really hadn't tied it together yet. That, and I'm just making up these percentages. Let's say 90% of the people that were doing them were doing fantastic. Of course, I didn't see those people coming into my center looking for an alternative. I only saw, let's say, 5% of didn't work and didn't care and they were fine. The other 5% that was having such bad side effects, that's who was coming into me.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

So that's a deeper question, too. Like, why were you having the same thing? Exactly. Yes, exactly. That's a really great point. I was like you, Stella. I was like, mm-mm, nope, I am so because they were just being titrated so quickly and people were literally starving themselves and they looked horrible and unhealthy and they were losing their muscle and all these awful things. And the only reason I got involved with, which I've said time and time again, was because I was getting the education to support those people, but in order to support them, I had to understand them. But once I got the education from a person from my functional doctor, by the way, who thinks the way I do, I was like, oh my gosh, these are brilliant. Still experimented with myself though. But then to your point, Kylie, I just want to say when chiropractors or other wellness people come to you that say, how do I kind of backtrack on what I've been saying? Own the space. I didn't like them because they were, this is what I was seeing in in practice or what people were doing. I did the research, realized how they the problem was all about the sourcing. And now that I'm educated and can support people on how to do that properly, this is how we do that. So just own, own where you were. If we are really good practitioners, or if anybody is worth a grain of salt when it comes to being in the wellness space, then they are open to the science and the education component. And that's always going to change. The more you know, the better you do, and it's always evolving. So to stay stuck where you are and closed to anything that's coming in, which I was. I was. I was as well. Yeah. Um, then then we're we're doing a disservice not only to ourselves, but to those that we work with.

unknown 6:21

Right.

Longevity Peptides And Cutting Pill Fatigue

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Yeah. Well, and I'll tell you another thing that really got me excited about it is I was already looking at different compounds for opening up the detox pathways and really hitting what's known as that longevity side of peptides as well. And those just really excite me as well. Um, I think there's great benefit in the GLP and low doses long term. But I even know for myself, adding on some different things that have just made substantial strides that eight years of natural balancing, eight years of supplements, eight years of eating well did not get me to where this peptide got me in like two weeks. You know, and when I look back at the trajectory of like when, you know, some chronic illness set in in me in early childhood and kind of going along, I'm like, oh, my mitochondria have just been depleted since about the age of nine. You know? So it really was just kind of looking at that and going, okay, this is exciting to see something that quickly make a difference and work. Um, but that longevity side, opening up the detox pathways, you know, getting the mitochondrial energy, feeding the mitochondria along the way as well, and just so many options there to choose from, and just kind of going, it's like pick that. Oh, okay, what do I want? I always say, even when it comes with clients and supplements who don't want to take a lot of supplements, I'm like, okay, let's talk about your top three concerns. And let me tell you the top three I'm gonna recommend. And we can do the same thing with peptides, right? This is what people need to go on here with, you know, and even with peptides, I'm still a big fan of you got to have a multivitamin with good, good quality source minerals. You have to have good things, you gotta have some super digest, you know, you've got to have different things that, you know, natural digestive enzymes on board, some magnesium every evening. You know, there are some core things that I think supplementation-wise, people do still need, but I've also been able to cut out a lot of supplements that I was taking, which has been a really wonderful thing that I have to take, you know, and so I'm not just adding these on on top of everything else that I've been doing. I'm able to pull some things back.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Yeah, those core supplements, um, multi-mineral, multi-vi, multi-mineral at the top of the list for sure, maybe an omega, um, magnesium adding on to that mineral because that might need to be supplemented as well. Like those don't go away when we're doing these things, for sure. Um because no matter how good you're eating, supplement. Yeah, but no matter how good you're eating, how well you're eating, our soils are depleted, and we need to have those base supplements, but we can eliminate a lot of expense for people. And and Kylie and I just had a we just recorded a podcast where we talked about this with somebody and we say it frequently. We can get people into a better space faster with these things for a lot less money and eliminating some of the things and the pill fatigue that could come along with the big old thing of supplements that you're taking every day, and you wonder, are these even more?

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Right, yeah. Well, and I just I had a conversation with someone this afternoon, and she's like, I've done all these different things before, and what

Foundations First, Then Microdosing Support

SPEAKER_03 9:23

is different here? And she was looking at our natural holistic program, and it's like, because you've done them all individually, you've never tied them into a core program. And so I think that's one of the things that people kind of need to realize is that when they were looking at just adding supplements on or trying to eat better, maybe they ate better for a day, but then kind of went off track again, you know, and that's something where the microdosing can kind of help tame some of those cravings and food noise that they were having and just give them some more energy and clear that inflammation out of their body in a way that makes it more sustainable. You know, so when you add supplements on to, I'm gonna say an okay diet, because what I've learned in eight years in weight loss is that people don't eat near as clean as they think they do. Everyone comes into me telling me how great their diet is. And then as we unpack it, it's like, okay, you're opening a package for that, you're opening a package for that. We really just want to clean you out for 28 days, no packages, real proteins, real vegetables, real fruits, you know, and keeping it simpler that people just don't eat as well as I think they do. But those foundations are really important to learn that for long-term success. Really it's kind of hit that in. I always like to talk to people also, they're like, well, what about the rebound weight gain that comes, that comes when you're on GLPs? And I'm like, rebound weight gain comes from any weight loss where you didn't change your habits and you didn't do something long term, and you don't pay attention to the clues that your body's giving you as you're starting to put on some more weight. And you know, as women, we all hit that perimenopausal stage, usually at our mid-40s, some actually now in the mid-30s. They've been on birth control for so long, it's really hitting a lot younger, they've had hormone disruption for a while, but hitting that time where everything I used to do no longer works. You know, what can I add on that can make a difference? But maybe I don't have to have a complete overhaul and change in everything I'm doing. And then as we approach menopause even further on, you know, I talk with women all the time who are doing functional medicine, who are doing the hormones, and they're getting everything optimized, and they still feel like crap. You know, so it's like, where can we come in on that those situations? And like we've you guys have talked a lot about the GLP and the lower dose, higher doses if needed. You know, I've got there are people that need them. There are definitely people, depending on their metabolic state, they may need a higher dose to get the same response as someone else. So I'm not against that, you know, but to do it just a little bit at a time as we need to and watch for responses. Like I had a client, I had no idea she had chin hairs growing in, you know, because she always took care of them every single day, you know, and she's like, Well, yeah, I'm really, really conscious about it, you know. But she needed a higher dose and those quit growing, you know. So it's learning that it's not just the food noise, it's not just the weight, the inflammation, the metabolic changes, the insulin signaling that's happening. There's just a wonderful cascade that's happening inside the body when we can layer these in on top of good foundations.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

That's a really important point. So there are other clues that our body's giving us when we're talking about hormonal imbalance, like the facial hair. Like a lot of us women of this age, now Kylie hasn't hit this yet. But she's a baby. You're trying to say like mid-30s, and I'm like, I got crap. With your red hair, electrolysis isn't gonna work for this property. But um, you know, the acne is another thing that changes for women. And you're you hear women all the time like, I'm 40 years old, I'm 50 years old, why do I have acne? I'm not a teenager anymore. Well, your hormones are changing. Maybe your drainage isn't great. Um, but the facial hair is something that a lot of women joke about as they get older. Um, incontinence is another big one that happens as we get older. And some of that has to do with um whether we have or have not had children and what that process has looked like. But the other part of that is um our hormone change when it comes to that. So we do have a lot of other clues with hormone imbalance that these things are going to step up and they're going to help. Mine was an incontinence issue that I'm not afraid to talk about. I had the prolapse stuff fixed, and then I got this other weird incontinence thing that happened.

Menopause Clues Like UTIs And Incontinence

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Gone by microdosing. Gone.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Yes, yeah, right. So you were probably experiencing a lot of an inflammatory response as well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember sitting in pharmacy school way, way many years ago, and we had just had a class and they were talking about hormone and they were talking about vaginal dryness. And I think it got talked about for about five whole minutes. And then we're in a class like a week later. Yeah. I mean, it was a whole five minutes of our conversation, you know? And then we're in a class like a few days or a week later, and they're talking about, and it had to still be on women's health, and then they started talking about the increased incidence of urinary tract infections as women hit their mid-50s. And I immediately, as a pharmacy student, went, Well, you just talked about the vaginal dryness a week ago. And so the pH in the vagina has changed. Like, you know, do we see a correlation here? No. No. I was just like, I'm like going, no, I'm the only one that sees a correlation.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

It's like, come on, you're the professor, you're supposed to know something. All right, you left. This is an amazing school, you know.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

But it was really interesting just to hear that conversation go from okay, we have the vaginal journey as one week, increased, you know, and it was like like the the two weren't weren't meshing. And it really is just, I think it's being more and more talked about. We have a lot more functional medicine, more concierge medicine now. People are getting a lot more talk about. Um, but it's interesting, it's like what treatments can really help some people. I'm someone that a low dose estrogen at the age I'm now, well into my 50s, still throws me into an estrogen dominant state. I can do it over-the-counter dosing up estradiol to do well with that. But you know, a lot of them are like, oh, I just do a vaginal insert, you know, every every week or so or twice a week, and I do fine with that. My body doesn't let me do that. And I and it tells me right away that I can't do that. Um, as much again as the doctors will say, well, it stays in the vagina, it doesn't transfer anywhere. And I'm like, okay, whenever did that happen in the body? Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

This is why we meant, oh, but we can put we can put those hormones on our skin and it's gonna absorb it if we put it inside our vagina. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, there's a lot more because you can get your numbers optimized. You know, you can see any, you know, doctors that work in the hormones, and you can get your numbers optimized, but that doesn't necessarily mean your body is optimized. All right. So there's a big difference

MOTS-C For Energy, Liver, And Visceral Fat

SPEAKER_03 16:05

there. And when I started looking at some of the other longevity peptides, the one for me, and you guys have heard me talk about it a lot, I'm a big fan of, is what's known as the MOPS C. And you know, that is a substrate that's in your mitochondria and it declines as we age. But as I said, about the age of nine, I had a number of tick porn infections things going on, and then you know, just different illnesses throughout my teens that probably now we're looking back, they were ticked porn core infections and things like that. So I feel like that's been depleted in me for years, and why I had such an amazing response to it within the first week. And then within my week two, I could really tell a difference. Um like it was lasting longer because you dose it three times a week. It was lasting past the just the day I was dosing it. And so that was a really neat thing to experience with that one.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

So let's talk about I want to talk about that for one more second, Stella. I did not have that reaction when I started my Matsy. I actually was feeling really crappy for a few weeks. And part of that is the mitochondria turnover that's happening in the body. Um, and probably for me, I needed to back off on my dose. It was probably a little too heavy for me at that time because that was happening. Um, so not everybody's gonna necessarily have that quick response, but even if you don't, it doesn't mean it's not mean it's not coming. In fact, it might mean that you really need it. You just need to go slower with it. Right, yeah. Um, but what is your reason behind it? So I think yes, you like it, but tell me, tell us why you like the Matsy.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Um for me, it really has been it's been clarity, uh just a lot of mental clarity. Um, I've I've really enjoyed that. The energy. And I've had a lot more energy with that, but I still go to bed and go to sleep. It's not like energy that keeps me up throughout the evening. So it's just been kind of like this is how people feel. It's really just kind of been like that enlightening thing to me. It was like, oh, is this normal? Which I have to say, with my program when I did that in 2017, from the state that I was in to where I came, I was just like, oh, this is amazing. So I think this just brought me another step into my wellness journey, which is a wonderful thing to have at age 57, is to go another step further in your wellness journey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

With the MOTC, there's another level beyond the mitochondrial component, too. And that's another reason why it's, I mean, when we hit menopause, energy kind of tanks a little bit and we're readjusting to this new stage of life. But when it comes to anything that we're talking about with hormones, the first thing that we think about is liver. And a lot of times women um have a metabolic imbalance and maybe they're storing a little bit extra. Um, we're gonna just for the sake of this, call it sugar in the liver, which is it's a little bit more than that. It's a little more nuanced. But Matsy will help us to target some of that and use that for energy a little bit more, which will help how the liver's processing hormones, but it also can help target some of that stored fat, the visceral fat, the dangerous fat in the body. So energy is number one, which so many people at the stage of life and in the perimenopause, post-menopause, whatever it is, um, really need, but they're it's going a step further when we're talking about hormones specifically.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Right. Yeah. And the hormone, like you said, the liver aspect of it, the stepping up the metabolism that happens with that. I dropped about four or five pounds when I went on it in the first two or three weeks. Um really hadn't even noticed and just happened to get on the scale and was like, whoa, wait, you know, wasn't trying, you know, it was just you know, a nice little boost. But when you think about it, okay, it's increasing the metabolism. You know. Um, and I really didn't notice a lot of increased hunger, you know. So that that was nice. But um so let's talk about hunger.

Protein, Muscle Loss, And Sermorelin Sleep

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Let's talk about protein. And one of my other favorite peptides for menopause. Let's hear it. So we think about you know, one of the things our body does as we age is it waste protein so easily. So easily that it's almost like it's this weird quirk of nature. We're like, how on earth are we losing something so rapidly that is so vital for survival? And that is our protein and our muscle mass, regardless if you're on a GLP or not. It it just if you're not using it and building it constantly, it is degrading too quickly.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

So getting enough protein throughout the day, right? But then really looking at adding on, does someone need to add something that's going to help their growth hormone factor kind of give out some more little burst? And that's where some morein can come in for a lot of women and be really helpful because another thing that tends to happen in menopause is sleep issues. And the somoralin also does really help with sleep, it helps with muscle recovery, it helps with muscle building, and it can just be an amazing add-on for women just to kind of help with that muscle preservation long term. Remembering you have to still be eating the protein.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

At the end of the day, these are all tools. Like the lifestyle thing still has to be here. You still have to nourish your body. You can't you can't out-inject still a crappy lifestyle.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Yeah, yeah, you can't out-supplement a crappy diet, you can't out-exercise a crappy diet, you can't, you know, we can't out-inject lifestyles that aren't really beneficial to us. And so, you know, do they give you some leeway? Yeah, I think they do. You know, do I feel like I can recover quick? I I have terrible carb cravings. If I eat carbs, I know I'm gonna have carb cravings the next day. I've already got a nice healthy breakfast plan for myself, so I don't give in and have carbs at some point. Like I I plan this out really well. I always say I also have like all a two byte. Two bites into something that I know isn't healthy. If it is not the best I've ever had, I stop. Yeah, because I can stop at that point without three. I used to say three, but I found myself at three, then just still learning the whole thing. Like I was already past that carb threshold for myself, which apparently is very

Food Rules That Protect Joy

SPEAKER_03 22:14

low.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

You know? I love that. That's a great way to look at that.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

Yeah. So I just get into it. And and I, you know, one of my favorite things one day is one of my clients, you know, she comes back and she's on a phase of the program where you're not supposed to be adding carbs and sweets in yet. And you were like, What's going on this last week? And she's like, I had the best red velvet cake I've ever had. She goes, and yes, I know what's done on this phase, but I don't care. I have two bites in, and it was the best ever. But she was with her family on vacation, and she was enjoying, they were at the Biltmore, and it was one piece for the whole family of four.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

That's like the step-less rule I've ever heard of.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

It it's a very simple rule, yeah. And it gives permission to have that, and because I want people to enjoy what they had and not have regret over it. Well, I think real quick, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

We're raised in this age, you and I, again, sorry, Kylie, we're older than you, um, where restriction was everything, right? Like we are we were meant made to feel guilty if we were in a place where we were enjoying like creme brulee, creme brulee is like that's a big weakness for me. If I'm looking at that menu and I peek over and see creme brulee is on the menu for dessert, you better believe it's coming to me. But if it's not a good creme brulee, I am okay to push it away. I have a couple of bites and say it's not worth it. If it's a good creme brulee, I'm all in. Don't even come near me. I'm not carrying it. I'm taking all of it in and I'm not gonna feel I'm not gonna feel bad about it at all.

unknown 23:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Because you know what, I still want to live and enjoy life and not feel the way that I have felt for so many decades in my life, which is deprivation and taking some of the joy out of the really fun things in life. And that includes a treat every now and again. I'm not having creme brulee all the time.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

Right.

unknown 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Well, and I've said for myself and for many of the clients I've had for the last eight years is that we've all been talked about moderation, moderation, moderation, and I think to moderation. Think of indulgences. Moderation, if moderation has made you fat, sick, and tired, you're not a person that can go back to moderation.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Well, you're probably not even really moderating, though.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Exactly. And that's where it comes down to, you know, I'm a I'm a big fan of still continuing to journal and things like that. And go through back with a highlighter and highlight how many moderations you had. And you know, that's where I say people aren't eating as clean as they think they are, you know? Oh, it was just two little chocolates. Oh, but that became two in the morning, two in the afternoon, two at dinner, you know. So it can add up very, very quickly.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Sure. Yeah.

The Core Menopause Stack Plus Wolverine

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Okay, so we've got mozzy, we've got semarelin.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Yeah, yeah. And so that was the one for muscle, muscle sleep, recovery, the growth hormone. It's gonna help, it's gonna help your body release more growth hormone.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Okay, and I don't think we were clear, but maybe maybe I just misunderstood what you were saying. And to round it out the trio for people that are in perimenopause, menopause, postmenopause.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Yeah, so I'm a big fan of the microdosing of the GLP GIP. Um, and and like I always say I like the combo, I just like it so much better. So I like to add responsibly with a good healthy diet. The MOT C for extra mitochondrial metabolic support, and then that SMORin for adding on that layer of muscle building, muscle recovery. You know, I know so many of them that don't work out because it hurts so bad. So muscle recovery, sleeping at night, and what that really can help with. The other one I'm a big fan of, and I've heard your podcast, I know you guys talk about it a lot, but that's the BPC and the TB500, um, the Wolverine stack. And I've recently had an experience with that, that I was on it for a while, I was off of it, and then I'm realizing oh, my headaches and my neck tightness and all that is kind of coming back, and I'm having more frequent headaches, and what is going on? And I was like, I'm about six weeks now without that. So I um I got that ordered again. Um, I will say though, I ordered it as the clothes stack. Um I decided to go ahead and add the copper and the KPV into that. So um I will let everyone know as time goes on how that's working for me. But I'm excited to be getting that in the next couple days. That's very exciting. Yeah. But it is interesting, Neil, the same I say with supplementation and diet. Pay attention to the clues that your body's giving you. My body was giving me more headaches and a lot more tightness and stiffness and just a lot going on. Now I had a lot more work that I was doing, but I'd had that work previously also and was doing fine. Um, so it took just a second going, uh, that's what it is. You know, that's that's the main difference. But it kind of took just sitting down after a couple days with a headache and within one week, and I was like, what's happening? You know, and me previous, 2016 and before, I had a headache every single day. And so now when it happens, I'm like, how did I function? How is that possible? So I gotta nip this in the bud right away. That's for sure. That cloak can't get here soon enough. Exactly. Get that taken care of, yeah. But you know, we help a lot of women through perimenopausal and menopausal states and really just kind of keeping the body, you know, we're never gonna be our 20-year-old self again. That it is just reality. And I personally don't want to be my 20-year-old self again. Much happier in the body I'm in now. But it is just paying attention, giving it what it needs, you know, realizing that saying no to a late night or no to alcohol or no to something is being an you know an ambassador of my own health, and it doesn't mean I'm big buddy and that I just don't want to be around or do that, you know. I've learned over time how to go out and have a good time and not have as much alcohol or you know, or not indulge in the indulge in the foods if I don't like them. So it is just kind of learning that wonderful little balance and dance that you can have to get through life and enjoy it. And as you said, not be so restrictive. We came up in that restrictive age.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yeah, that was that was how it was done. If you wanted to be healthy, lose weight, be healthy, healthy, by the way. Yeah, restrictive, and that meant that we were eating fat-free this and whatever. Like, okay, that wasn't healthy at all.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

For multiple reasons. Right. Um, but yeah, yeah, I I'm just so happy, like you, to be in this body in my 50s. Um it's come with a lot of experience and learning along the way, a lot of tumbles along the way, too. Right. But I'm grateful for what this body has provided, and I'm so grateful that we have access to these peptides and all these things that mean we can live longer better.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

How lucky for all of us.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

And so, Kylie, I know you didn't get to talk much about the menopause, but look what you have to look forward to. You're gonna be able to sail right through it.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

No, I'm gonna sail right through it, exactly. I'm gonna do what I need to. I'm turning 37. I got some time.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

You got some time,

Proactive Liver Support Before Symptoms Hit

SPEAKER_03 29:13

exactly.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

I would just say to anybody who is 37 in their 30s or or 20s, even previous to you hitting the age that I am, love your liver. Your number one thing that you could be doing now is to make sure that your detox pathways are open and your liver is supported. I have come through um this stage of life. I had hysterectomy six years ago, so I don't even really know exactly where I am technically. Um, not one single hot flash, not one anything. I have not suffered from any menopausal symptoms with regard to those uncomfortable things, disrupted sleep and hot flashes and all that kind of stuff, because I've been so proactive for so long when it comes to protecting that. So, Kylie, I would say make sure that that is the one thing that you are doing for yourself at this point in the game.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

I feel like I don't, I'm not hard on my liver. Um, I've never had a drop of alcohol in my life, never intend to, and I feel like that's a big strain. And wait, we don't filter our water. That's probably the next step is to filter the water, get the heavy metals out of there. But I I feel like I'm pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

A carb heavy diet will do it. Somebody that has maybe a carb heavy diet and it's a bit more steady.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Carnivores over here above our meat.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

But but other people that are listening, right? If they're listening, if you could honestly look back at your lifestyle and know, yep, I might be a little carb heavy in my diet, and maybe I don't burn that off. I'm not actually using those carbs, then I would say that that that would be a priority for you. Yeah, and we can help you if you're not good at that. We do have something we can help you with a little glutathione boost and help you get there a little bit. And the MOTC, like Sella just said, can help there too.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

So if you can master a detoxifier in there and yep, absolutely open the body.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

I feel like I've been quite blessed, honestly, because I'll I don't think about even getting on the scale. Uh the last time I got on the scale was when I was pregnant. I'll tell you the last 20 years, the only time I get on a scale is when I'm pregnant. Yeah, like so I don't think about those things. Um, but I also haven't had you know terrible health problems. My health problems are my lungs. I had pneumonia early on. I just think I was 12. And so for me, it's like when I get a cold, I immediately go to my high dose vitamin D. I take my W oil, put it on my neck, and it's like I avoided pneumonia. I haven't stepped into a doctor's office in 10 years. Like I've I feel like I'm done pretty good. Knock on wood. Excellent that way.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

That is excellent. But we do eat like care of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Like I grew up, my my family has a dairy farm, and we grew up, you know, we got a beef every Christmas. So when I hear people and I see people and they're eating these carb-heavy diets, it was just never part of my life. Right, yeah. It was always a really heavy, heavy protein diet. And then I do remember the fat-free stuff. I remember that in high school. And it's like, oh, if it's fat-free, it's healthy, and then it's got all this gluten, and now it's gluten-free. Everything, if it's gluten-free, it's healthy. So it's trends, it's fad. Um, but before we finish, ladies, with our top three menopause, we have GLP1, GIP combination, MOTS C, and Syrmorlin, which we haven't discussed much on this podcast. Um, but let's talk about the additives we can add to our trusepatite

Choosing Add-Ins: B12, Carnitine, Or Glycine

SPEAKER_01 32:44

order.

unknown 32:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Well, Stella, will you walk us through those? Because when someone goes to order their trusepatite, their GLP1, GIP combination, they're given three different options.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

They are given three great options to customize it for themselves. And what I tell people all the time is read the second and third option because the way they're stacked on the screen when they're doing their ordering process is B12 is up front with a little sticker that says most popular. And then there's L-carnitine below that, and then glycine below that. So you can choose any three of these. There's no extra charge. This is just what you get to choose to add to make this your personal formula. And I always say brief because they each one tells what it's about. So you get energy support with the B12, and a lot of people see that, and they're like metabolic balance and suburb help. Okay, yeah. And like we've mentioned, it's comfortable, they know it, it sounds familiar. Everyone's had a B12 shot, or they know someone that has, so okay, yeah, I'll get the B12. But the next two, the L-carnitine or the glycine. And I'm like, you know, on our on our site, you can dig into it more, you can do the drop-down and you can read more about each one. But there's three things that are listed on each one. And, you know, one of them has muscle preservation and sleep quality. So if those just light you up, if you're like, oh, I need some sleep, and it also has cognitive function, and you're looking at glycine. Glycine is what you really want to get. If you look at the L-carnitine that says exercise recovery, fat metabolism, energy production again, and you're in a process of working out and trying to build and struggling to get that exercise recovery, and you're already doing all the amino acids anyway, and doing big, big you know, dumps of those every day, the L-carnitine might be what's for you. So there's no right or wrong with any of these additives, but it is just read through and see which one that you're like, oh and when when I've had women that actually read through, they're like, oh, but now I want both of them. Can I have two? And I'm like, no, we have to have to pick one for starting to do that. Exactly. We do have to pick one. And you know, you can always, if you want to change your attitude, uh, additive on a next order, you can always just message uh they message into customer service and to support, and we're able to get that changed, you know. So there is a way to get that changed on future orders. But just read through there, they give you some great drop down and a lot of great, great advice on what you're gonna do. But I'm always just like, read past just the first one, just because it's most popular doesn't mean you know it's what you issues. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Which one's the one with the muscle recovery? I'm sorry for that. The which one's the one with the muscle recovery. Carnitine.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

The muscle recovery was the glycine. Uh no, L carnitine. L carnitine is with the exercise recovery, and then glycine with the muscle preservation.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

I was helping a family member order this, and we were debating on the three things, and his biggest complaint is recovery after his runs.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

I'm like, okay, then we need the carnitine. So we added that one.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

So whatever your biggest complaint is, make that additive be the solution.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

Exactly. Yeah. Look at what your biggest complaint is.

Getting Started, Where To Find Us

SPEAKER_01 35:55

That's how all right, Stella, what's one last word of somebody who's been on the fence? What do they need to do?

SPEAKER_03 36:02

You know, just get on the site and and get an order. You know, it really it has the fact that you there's no sense in giving up. And by not doing anything, it's liable to be an entire year has gone by and you have yet to do anything. If you want to talk with us, you can definitely reach out to my team. You can I can give you our email address and they can, you know, email us easily. But you know, just getting on board and going, okay, enough people have done this now and they're doing it safely and they're doing it right. I've gotten good foundations. Let me just pick my top thing that I really need help with and get in there and get the order place and get it started.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Where can they find you?

SPEAKER_03 36:45

Uh the easiest way to find me is at drstellarx.com forward slash peptides is the best one. Or you can just drop us an email at hello at drstellarrx.com.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Jess, where can they find you?

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Well, I am always on Instagram providing all kinds of either fun things like my dog rolled and pooped, or we're talking about peptides and wellness. You never know what you're gonna get when you come on and find me, but I'm a lot of fun and a wealth of information. So justbe.toxhealth, that's where you can find me on my Instagram. You can also find me at my website, which is b2bwithjust.com. And I just want to say one more thing, Stella. I'm so appreciative of your time, of you hopping on here. Um, and just want to reiterate not only are you a pharmacist, but you are somebody that runs a practice that is based on a natural approach. So if you have listened to this whole thing and you think that this is a pharmacist that is talking about a prescription to push your way, that is not what this is about. Like so many of us in the functional slash holistic space, we have realized that these are bioidentical, for the most part, not all of them, bio peptides that are really going to potentially be something that you're missing for whatever reason. And to hear you talk so passionately and have the same trajectory as me is eh, no thanks in the beginning, and keep our mind open to really learn about them. Talking about somebody that has that approach to wellness that speaks volumes as to how powerful these peptides are.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

Oh, thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

And if anyone As a pharmacist, you have prescription rights. And no, you don't.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

No, I don't have prescription rights. No, no. Pharmacists in some states in collaborative practice to do, I do not have a collaborative practice.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

I feel like we do hear in Utah because my cousin's a pharmacist.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

You do actually. Um in psychiatric medicine, they have a lot of prescriptive rights. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

So I was gonna say, even if you have prescription rights, um, you can still outsource these. And that's a beautiful thing for us health providers when we're busy staying in our zones of genius. We can let somebody else do the fulfillment side and utilize their prescription license for it. Uh, you can get started with me at drkylieburton.com. This is pep talk, peptides unpacked. If you haven't shared this with a friend yet, please do share this podcast episode, share the podcast. We'd love to spread the word on how to do these right, how to do these safe. And see you next time.