#40 Kate's Weight Loss Goal: Be A Grape Not A Raisin

Fast weight loss is seductive, but it can come with a cost you don’t see until later: side effects, burnout, and results that don’t last. Today we sit down with Kate for her first-ever podcast interview to tell a different kind of GLP-1 story, one built on patience, safety, and the decision to treat peptides like a tool rather than a rescue plan. 

If you’ve felt discouraged because the scale didn’t move in the first week or two, this conversation is the reality check and encouragement you’ve been looking for. 

Kate shares her long road through thyroid disease, hormone chaos, sleep apnea, lymphedema, pregnancy complications, and the stress of rebuilding life after a toxic marriage. Additionally, we talk about:

•  why stress makes the body hold on to weight, 
• why “instant gratification” dosing backfires, 
• and how a functional medicine approach can support real metabolic health. 

You’ll hear how she started with nutrition basics like macros and prioritizing protein. We even dive into her dosing journey and how it stayed steady for months at a time - so don't just up your dosage because your weight loss paused. Experiencing weight loss plateau's are part of the journey and are a healthy part. 

If you’re searching for safe GLP-1 weight loss, tirzepatide microdosing, peptide education, or sustainable fat loss strategies, you’ll leave with a clearer plan and a calmer head after listening to this conversation. 

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Transcript

Why Safe Weight Loss Matters

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Peptides are powerful and often misunderstood. And we're here to change that one conversation at a time. I'm Dr. Kylie Burton. And I'm Jessica Brickie. This is Pep Talk, Peptides Unpacked. Science Made Simple, Results Made Real. And today we're talking about weight loss results, but not in a fast manner. This is a weight loss journey in a safe manner. And I loved when I was talking to Kate about her journey, how important her journey has been, and how important it is to share. So if you're like, I want to lose weight, just know that if the scale doesn't move in the first week, two weeks, four weeks, give your body time. And that's how weight is done safely. And yes, other people are doing it too because Kate is living proof. So Kate, welcome aboard. Hey. Now this is her very first podcast episode. She's being brave and sharing her story because we share stories and they impact lives. And there are hundreds and thousands of women like you sitting in your shoes who want to hear your story because it's going to empower

Kate’s Hormone And Weight History

SPEAKER_00 1:18

them. So let's just jump in. I can't remember, Kate. Did you ever get a diagnosis of PCOS?

SPEAKER_02 1:24

No, I've never been diagnosed with that. I wouldn't be surprised if I've had it. I've had lots of different health things over the years.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

I'll just say I stalked her on Facebook. Yeah. She's a neighbor of mine. And if I looked back at pictures of her from six months ago, a year ago, that's what my guess would have been. Is that we had hormonal chaos. Yes. That led to overweight on top of a toxic husband, ex-husband. And now you're free. And you're like, I would have never imagined not seeing you six months ago versus seeing you now, the difference unless I went and saw those quote before pictures. Yes. And honestly, where you are.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Thank you. It's been a really long journey for me too. This has been struggling with weight my whole life. I got diagnosed with thyroid disease when I was 10 years old, which is really young, especially like this talking 20 years ago, 20 something years ago, almost 30 years ago. And very young. So I've dealt with hormones and autoimmune disease my whole life and struggled with weight ever since then, on and off. Before that, I'd always been like a really skinny, energetic kid. I I don't know. I feel like I was always pretty normal through high school, like middle school times. I had knee surgery on both my knees when I was a senior in high school, and then six months later, and I gained a lot of weight and lost a lot. But it's just always been up and down. But like at my heaviest, I was like 250-ish, maybe a little bit more pounds. So like I've been a lot bigger and struggled at that point. I was married. We've been trying to have a baby for about five years, couldn't get pregnant, gone in and tried different medications. I had a doctor who was like, honestly, you need to lose weight. Like right now, you're just not healthy. At that time, my best one of my best friends had gone to Mexico and had gastric sleeve surgery. So I went with her. She was a nurse as a nurse. She's an RN. She went with me and I did that. And honestly, that was a great thing for me. I lost about 90 pounds and I got pregnant six months later because it was really fast. And it wasn't like I changed portion sizes because I couldn't eat that much. But as soon as I got pregnant and I had problems with my pregnancy, I ended up having to get a feeding tube and that stretched my stomach back out. So had my babies, gained weight back, still in this really hard marriage, got divorced, and I was like, okay, I need to do this for me. And I started losing weight again. But then about a year ago, I was back at about 200 pounds, and I was just like, I can't sit here and not do anything. I need to be healthy for my girls. I need to be healthy for me, be the best version of myself.

Sleeve Surgery Pregnancy And Food

SPEAKER_01 4:24

And I've been going Can I interrupt you for one quick second? Because I before we get into this last year, I feel like I want to go back into your story just a little bit more, if you don't mind. When you talked about going and getting the sleeve done, and then you had complications, you had to have a feeding tube because you weren't getting enough nutrients, or did was there a problem with the sleeve?

SPEAKER_02 4:47

No, it wasn't with the sleeve. So I ended up getting hypermesis. So totally separate from gastric sleeve. I just get really sick. I throw out my whole pregnancy to the point where I was losing too much weight in the pregnancy, my baby wasn't growing enough. And they had done IVs and I had gotten a pick line. I had IVs at home and I still just wasn't getting enough. I was so dehydrated and malnourished that I needed a feeding tube.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

When you did the sleeve, obviously your portions changed, like you mentioned, but did your relationship with food change? Did the types of food that you were eating change?

SPEAKER_02 5:27

No, I was eating smaller portions of whatever I was eating before. Okay. And honestly, being in the relationship I was in too, he resented that I got this leave because he was still eating a lot and then I couldn't eat a lot. And then there was conflict there. So it was just I wasn't in a good place with food yet. I still don't regret doing that. I'm glad that I did it because it helped me be able to get pregnant and have my babies.

Fixing Hormones With Macros First

SPEAKER_02 5:54

But it wasn't until I started going to a functional health doctor and working on my hormones first and getting those under control and figuring out really what was going on there. And I had gone to him for over a year before I talked to him about doing weight loss medication. And I was like, okay, I need to do something. And before I started weight loss medication is when I started really being like, okay, I need to count macros. Nobody wants to do that. It's not fun, it's not exciting. But and it's really hard at first because it feels really overwhelming, especially when you have a life going on. Single mom, two little girls. I have my girls full time. I'm living with my parents.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

One more thing on your plate that you now have to manage. One more thing.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

But like I was able to do it and I did it slowly. I wasn't, I was like, okay, first I'm gonna focus on getting my protein. I can't handle carbs and fats yet, but I'm gonna focus on getting protein. So I started focusing on that. Okay, I need to be getting this much protein, and then started doing other things. Okay, I can cut back on carbs because I'm not hungry as much, especially once I started taking my medication. It helped so much because I was like, okay, I got to focus on protein and do it that way.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

So you were working with a functional practitioner that was helping you determine your macros are skewed. We got to get that right first, which I love that approach because when I talk about peptides, which I'm assuming that's where we're headed here, and that's what we're gonna talk about. There's two trains of thought. One is there's the people that are already walking the talk, right? They're doing all the right things, they're eating the right things, they're getting the sleep, and they're still not able to move the needle in their body. And then there's people that really don't know how to nourish, or their body's telling them other signaling. You want the carbs, you want this, you're and especially when you're under stress, your body wants that comfort food. So for you to start recognizing, okay, I'm not even eating the same right foods first to see what your body's gonna do when it does have the right food is an incredible tool that you started to utilize before the peop came into your world.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Yeah. And instead of going for what was easy, okay, what am I feeding my kids? What can I grab easy out the door stuff? I was like, okay. And honestly, my mom had started before me. So she's lost a lot of weight just changing her diet and doing macros. And so watching her do that and see how she implemented that in her life, I was like, okay, if my mom can do that, I can do it. And we live together. So I'm like, okay, show me how you're doing this. I think honestly, the biggest thing is having somebody help you and teach you what to do. Because if you're doing it on your own and you're not asking for help, it feels so overwhelming because you're just like, I don't know what to do. I like, how do I do this? Having my mom help me, having my functional medicine doctor who's okay, here's what your macros need to be. This is what we're doing. And like I'm taking medication as a tool and it's helpful, but like we need to teach you how to do it so that eventually when you're not taking it or when it changes, you can sustain it and it's a lifestyle change.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

That's ultimately what we need, right? We need to make sure that you're putting the right nutrients in your body. And I like to talk about peptides in terms of maybe they're the spark that starts the fire and gets you going on your own again, or maybe it's the goal that you need because the fuel's not in the tank. And depends on everybody's a little bit different with where they are in their life and in their journey and what they need and what that future looks like. That's the number one question I get. Do I have to be on this for the rest of my life? And the answer before we go to your story is I don't know. I don't know. You know, time will tell. So you started, I'm assuming then, you making all these changes, and then your functional practitioner just said, Okay, it's time to start trying. No, you didn't

Starting Tirzepatide With Health Conditions

SPEAKER_01 9:47

even bring it up.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Okay. I had a friend who had lost a lot of weight, and I saw her do it, and I asked her, okay, what are you doing? You look so good. And she told me she's been doing it a year and a half. And are we talking about what are we talking about? What is it that she was doing? So she was taking trzepatide, and I was like, okay, so I looked into that and I really liked what I read. I also have really bad sleep apnea. So like I have health things on top of it, which make losing weight hard, extra hard. Thyroid disease, sleep apnea, I have lymphedema. It's like a complication from my pregnancies years ago that I just have forever now, right? So I was like, okay, like it helps with sleep apnea, like they're showing in studies. It helps you not be hungry all the time. So I asked him about it and he's, yeah, I feel comfortable. You've made these changes, you're starting. And like when I made these changes, like I wasn't making big changes, I was doing it really small because I was overwhelmed. And I was like, so I had lost probably like 10 pounds on my own, hadn't lost a lot on my own, but I was trying and he's yeah, let's do it because you're trying. And I think that's the thing too, because like a lot of times where we get stuck, we're frozen, right? We're like, I can't do this, it's impossible. This goal seems impossible. And we're so used to instant gratification nowadays, too. That we're like, okay, if I'm not losing weight like right away, like it's not worth it. But I was like, okay, I need to go into this knowing like this is gonna be a long process, it's gonna take a long time. And he was really good about that. You're not gonna see any changes, you're not gonna really feel any changes for months.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

That's key right now.

The Grape Not Raisin Rule

SPEAKER_01 11:26

So, first of all, because we've had so much irresponsible dosing of these medications with fast titration without the nutritional support that is necessary, you're seeing people lose rapid weight and they look terrible, right? They look unhealthy, they look malnourished. But because we've seen so much of that, people have this expectation that I'm gonna start doing the shot and I'm gonna lose 30 pounds in the next six weeks. This is the mentality that we have built. And the reality is your body needs to feel safe, and it has to have time for these things to start this messaging to come on board again and start signaling the right way. So some people might respond right away. Some people could take months. I love that he gave you that heads up. Hey, this was so awesome.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

He is awesome, and he gave me the analogy. He think of yourself like a grape. You're nice and you're plump, you're juicy. We like a good grape. If you take this right away, you're gonna shrivel up and be a raisin. And I don't want raisins out there walking around. Okay, you represent me. I don't want you to be a shriveled up raisin, like lose it slow.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

We want a we want a grape, not a raisin. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

You want to be a grape, you want to be juicy, right? So I was like, okay, take it slow. So that's I tell myself, okay, I'm a grape, I'm a grape, I'm not a raisin, I don't want to do that. And and it's been good because it does play with your mind losing the weight. Because at first, because I was on it, I've been on it for a year-ish, and it took a while, it's gone slow. And so at first I'm like, nothing's this isn't really working, and then it started working.

Microdosing GLP-1 And Side Effects

SPEAKER_02 13:12

I was like, okay, it is, and that's when you start feeling the motivation and stuff like that. But like, how far in did you go before quote started working? I feel like it probably was about three months before I was like, okay, I've lost like 10-ish pounds.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Okay, like this is working, like it was slow, it was slow at first, but I was making those like small choices of what am I eating, what am I doing, moving more, and and it's and there's probably other things like inflammation inflammation was changing for you in that three months, but you weren't necessarily seeing it on the scale at this rapid weight loss.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

And honestly, my inflammation is huge, like a huge part of it. So I go to a lymphatic specialist, yeah, and she because my lymphedema's in my leg and she measures my leg every three months or so to see where I'm at. And over the last year, it's gone down so much, which is huge, like a huge thing for me because like with lymphedema, you can't ever fix that. Once you have lymphedema, those lymph nodes are broken, and but you can do things to make it better, right? But losing help so much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

The telemedicine company that Kyle and I work with, they send out the peptides in three-month increments and 12-week increments, and a lot of people get frustrated by that. And you are a perfect example as to why we why that is done. Because some people take three, four months before they start seeing change. And if somebody were to say, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm only gonna do it for four weeks, and nothing happened in their mind, even though things are happening internally, but if they weren't seeing that result on the scale, if that's what they the only thing that they were chasing, they would give up. They would say, forget it, I'm not gonna do this because it's been four weeks and I'm doing this to myself and it's not enough. But the reason we do it is be it's you've just laid it out so perfectly. Plus, you were under obviously an enormous amount of stress coming out of a toxic relationship, changing your living environment. You had two, you had young, two small children. Yeah, your body, and everybody else's stress that's that is listening to the story, it may not be that exact same thing, but it's their version of stress.

When To Increase Dosage Safely

SPEAKER_01 15:31

And when the body is underneath that kind of stress, weight loss, it's protective. Holding on to that, it's very protective. It is not going to, regardless of the peptides that you're putting in, want you to release that right away. It needs to feel safe and nourished before and allow that.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

And to be honest, I've been divorced for five years. So it's taken me five years, four years, if you want to say, when I started taking the peptides, to be at a place where I was like mentally able to click in and be like, okay, I'm good. Things are good. I can do this, I can focus on like myself and trying to be the best version of myself I can be. It but it's hard. Everybody's going through something, and everybody's heart is hard. You can't judge one person's heart and say it's harder than somebody else's. We all have our own thing we're going through. And so I think giving yourself a lot of grace too, because we expect a lot from ourselves. Okay, I'm gonna take this medicine, it's gonna work really fast, and I'm just gonna do it, even if I have side effects, I'm gonna push through it. And it's no, give yourself a second, do it slow as long as you're doing it and you're making those steps, it's gonna work. Trust the process. Yeah, I think I've seen friends who've done it too. Sorry, and they do it too fast too soon, and they stop taking it after a couple weeks because they're like, I felt sick, I didn't like it. And I'm like, Too much too soon. Give yourself a chance, give your body a chance.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

You totally hit on that. We just pushed through. I think as women, especially, we are really good at just saying, I'm okay, everything's burning around us, but I'm okay, I

Maintenance Fears And Extra Benefits

SPEAKER_01 17:07

can do this. Even when it comes to using the peptides, because people think chasing skinny is going to solve all their problems, right? And listen, there is a component to when you don't feel good in your own skin, there's a confidence factor that that is missing. There are, and obviously, inflammatory issues where you that losing the weight will help many different things, whether it's mental wellness or our physical body, whatever. However, just because we can doesn't mean we should. And so ignoring those symptoms of nausea and constipation and not feeling good to chase that skinny is not the right way. So you hit on that perfectly. Watching other people push through those awful symptoms, it was a sign it was too much for their body and they ignored it.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

And I felt bad too because I was like, because I went so slow, I was like, I never had any of those symptoms.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

I that's what I want to focus on is like you went so slow that you never had the side effect. I just wanted to focus on the low and slow, and how so many people they want it now, they inject way too much in their body, and they're like, I felt like crap, I don't like this thing, it's not gonna work for me. It did terrible things. No, the dose was wrong, and possibly the sourcing too. But talk more on that journey that you had, the low and slow, and how long it took you, and how you've just stayed steady and been in the game and just trusted the process.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

I did. I did it really low and really slow. I didn't change my dosage for months, I just did it and I was consistent. I have a timer on my calendar every week, and I did my dose. And so I never had any side

Mindset Grace And Modeling For Kids

SPEAKER_02 18:51

effects, I never felt sick from it. And like slowly over time, like I was like, okay, you know what? Yeah, I'm realizing like I'm not hungry, the food noise, like I'm not feeling like I need to eat just to calm the world down around me. And I think that was the biggest thing. And it's hard because it kind of messes with your head, right? Because in your head, because it is going slow, you're not seeing the changes as much. And then you run into somebody six months down the road and they're like, oh my gosh, you've lost so much weight. How did you do that? And you're like, Have I? Like, I because it's been slow, and you're like, I just see myself every day, but like, inks, I'm trying, like, I'm working hard on this, but like it's a long game thing, and but that's what you want it to be. You want it to be a long game, so you're changing your lifestyle forever, so you can be healthy and feel good because that's the whole reason.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

I'm assuming then when you say that you've been more working with a functional practitioner, I'm assuming you've been more in the house of a microdose approach. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah. So that's what is, I think, important for people to understand. And won't get into the actual dose because that's that that's it's very body-specific. What your microdose is is different from what my dope, my microdose might be. But the point is listening to those symptoms. If again, if you're nauseous and you're constipated and you don't feel good and your energy is stinky and you have zero appetite, it's too much. Because we naturally make every time we eat, we naturally make GLP1 and GIP in our gut every single time we eat. Now they're short-lived, right? These are these prescriptions, these peptides have been made in a lab to be bioidentical to what we naturally make, but adjusted so that they can last a little bit longer. So they're with us a little bit longer. We want to match what the body would normally do, which means we still have appetite. We want to eat and we don't walk around when we're naturally making them feeling nauseous all the time. So why would we do something, even if it is bioidentical and it's really good with all these benefits? It gives us this lousy side effect. Right. Microdosing is a beautiful approach for many people.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

It is it's changing, I think, your mindset from going from instant gratification, which is what our world is all about right now. I'm gonna do it now, I'm gonna happen today, and going for the long-term approach. Okay, like I want to do something long-term so that I feel good and that I look better, I feel healthier, but it's gonna take time. So I want to feel good today still while I'm doing that. So I'm gonna do it slow and I'm gonna take my time and I'm just gonna stick with it and do it the right way and do it the hard way instead of being like, okay, I don't care if I don't have an appetite, if I don't feel good, if I lose more

Treats Portions And Closing Resources

SPEAKER_02 21:40

weight faster, you're gonna gain it back when you feel like you can eat. So just do it and let your body catch up, let your brain catch up. Because I think honestly, it's your brain is the biggest factor in it. And being at a good place in your brain with your weight and with your life so that you're not misusing it or just using it too fast and getting sick. Because I have, I've seen friends. Who've done that and then they give up, and I'm like, well, this could be a really great tool for you, but it takes time. And give yourself that chance.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Yeah. Okay. I want to just I'm not going to share your exact dosage, the exact plan you sent out to me. Yeah. When you say I didn't change my dosage for months, we don't share the video. So I'm going to share you guys with my screen here. So you can see, Jess. I think you'll be fascinated too. But uh her dosage did not her dosage has really changed one time. And it took five months. Yeah. Through the first same dosage, and then it changed after the five-month period, and she's remained on the same dosage. Not getting into the details, but yeah, I'm just looking at that now.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

So you went from May of 25, basically the same dose until December of 25. So you went six almost seven months before you went up in your dose. And even at that, it was a small jump up. Now that incremental chase that I that I'm looking at right now, what you did in a six to seven-ish month time frame is what one what the standard dosing would do in four that first jump would be in four weeks. So you took seven months before you took that jump, where most people on standard dosing would do that in four weeks, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Yeah. So I really did it slow because I I wanted it to last. I don't want this to be a trend. I don't want it to be like, okay, I'm gonna gain it all back. I want it to go.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

What made you decide between you and your doctor or whatever the decision that you come December of this this past December? What made you decide it was time to go up in your dose?

SPEAKER_02 23:50

I was feeling like I needed a little bit more. I think I was starting to stall a little bit. I wasn't losing as quickly. And so I was like, okay, if I need a little bit more of a push.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

And you'll brain signaling with your thoughts around food changing too, or just in the progress on what you would say we're it was more the progress on the scale.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

I think I had lost quite a bit of weight at that point, and so I was like slowing down on my weight loss, but I was also just I like so you had more to go, you hadn't hit your goals.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Yeah, so you decided also that was December, right? So that changed as I'm looking at that's the beginning of December. So you've hit Thanksgiving and you're in the holiday swing of things where things are a lot of extra stuff in your face, like a lot of challenges, lots of activity and with little kids, school parties, treats, cookies, they're all the things, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:42

And I did, I felt like I did really good over the holidays. I've maintained and taking the little wins on the scale, like losing a little bit, and also being like, okay, I'm not gonna get on the scale for a few days. I don't need to be checking the scale every single day.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Like yeah, that's but that comes with time, that relationship with the scale and what that represents, because that can be a very helpful tool or it can be a very harmful tool, depending on where you're at with that. Yeah. So now looking again, you you did that in December, and then there was another jump that you did again since then, and I don't remember now looking at that, what when that was. How so that and that was a faster, right? So you went a couple months on that dose, and then you don't then you went up again. Um and how are you doing now? How are you feeling?

SPEAKER_02 25:30

I'm feeling really good, still no symptoms. I think the closer I get to my goal weight, which to be super honest, I had set a goal weight and I passed it. And I was like, okay, I can still lose a little bit more. Okay, and talk to my functional medicine doctor and who's yeah, you can you can lose a little bit more. But to be honest, at this point, I have about 10 pounds. And then he's and then I want you to stop for a while, like completely off or titrate you back down. No, just stop trying to lose.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Okay, yes. All right, gotcha. Yeah, and is there a plan for you to come backwards then to find out what your maintenance dose will be like?

SPEAKER_02 26:10

What is he, what is the ultimate assume he, he or she it's a he, yeah, he said eventually to back off and stop taking it. To be honest, that scares me because it has been so helpful for me. And with my lymphedema, I don't know what that would look like because that's been such a good tool to manage lymphedema. So right now I'm just kind of okay, I'm not ready to talk about going off of it. I'm totally comfortable backing down once I get to my goal weight. But like I also know summertime's coming, and that's when a lot of inflammation starts to get more, I don't know, I get more swollen.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Exactly. There's always something. There's always something always something. And I think what we get lost about is once you hit your goal weight, what we like to mention a lot on the podcast too is not just weight loss, but there are so many more benefits from these things than weight loss. And so staying on a low maintenance dose is perfectly fine, and that's kind of what I am leaning more towards.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

We haven't talked about it a time.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

So just make sure you're safe to be your own advocate for them and it sounds like you have a great relationship and you can be an advocate for yourself and say, I don't know. You mentioned earlier, and this is along that line, you don't know that whether or not you do or you didn't ever actually have PCOS or what is now called PMOS. Have you heard that name change? I saw that, yes. And would you if you look at any of the symptoms, and I don't know what they were prior to you getting pregnant or in your teen, early 20s, but did you have erratic menstrual cycles? Did you suffer from any of those kind of symptoms? And a lot of times you were told, I don't you don't have PCOS because you don't actually have cysts, which is part of the part of the reason why the name change exists, because so many women were dismissed. If that's the case, women that have PMOS are not making the GLPs like they should ever in their life, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:10

And the funny thing is I've actually had cysts. I've had cysts in my ovaries. They've seen them, I've had them measured and stuff where they burst, like when I was in high school and stuff like that. So I would not be surprised if I do. My whole journey with that is a whole other story. I've always had really hard periods and then yeah, like getting pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

So you're like the perfect person who not only is used this for weight loss, but you get to lose it, you get to use it after your weight loss journey for benefits in the hormone range, hormone world, and just feeling better overall. I do have family members who are taking it for cardiovascular and kidneys and liver. And it's like I told a friend who just started it, she's I'm at size 14, this is not okay. And I said, You're starting it for a weight loss journey, but this, in my opinion, is one of the best things you can do from an internal organ health perspective, from a longevity perspective. Love it. So nice work, Kate. Nice work. Thanks. All right, just sharing the dosage here and her transition and times in which she moved up. She stayed at that first dosage for six months, was on the second dosage for two months, and then upped to a higher, a little bit higher dosage, and has been on that since. So a year of this journey, and we've only changed the dosage three times. So those of you who are like, Oh, I need to increase my dosage, I need to take a big deep breath, slow down, and enjoy the process. Because the slower you lose the weight, the more long term it's gonna stay off. In my opinion, there's gotta be some research to back that up. But if I say a statement like that, I should probably caveat it. All right, okay, for those of them who are listening and they're like, I've heard so many things about it, I'm just torn. What would you say?

SPEAKER_02 30:06

I would say get yourself a good doctor, functional health practitioners, like somebody you trust and ask them. I think you don't know until you try something. And what's the worst thing that could happen? If your doctor's on board and thinks it's a good fit for you, try it. And if you don't like it, you don't have to do it. But it could be a huge change. So kind of somebody you trust to do it.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Yeah. And I know a lot of people who don't trust a medical physician or they don't trust somebody overseeing their health because they've had to do so much advocacy for themselves. And the nice thing with using our telemedicine platform is that you we're we veg them out. We've looked at them and we've utilized them and their services our own for ourselves. And so if you're like, I need somebody to help me out with this, we can provide you with those through our telemedicine platform. And then it also is great to work with a functional medicine doc like yourself who can help incorporate the lifestyle things, maybe do a little bit of accountability if that's needed. But you got a full team here, and it's just up to you to utilize the team and to do the work on your part because you've done some work. It wasn't just a magic pill that you took, you did some work.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

And I think hormones are huge. So many of us don't know what's going on with our hormones, and they're just not checked regularly at your normal family practice doctor because it's more intense. Getting my hormones figured out first was huge. And so I know you guys do that too, and it just start small.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

When we say getting your hormones checked out, there are some underlying factors for hormones. You got blood sugar, you got liver, you got some other components, and GLPs, your trisepatide is a great solution for those underlying hormonal chaos causes. As we finish up here, I can imagine the mind game that this journey has been. So, someone who's maybe in the journey and they're playing the mind game, what advice do you have for them?

SPEAKER_02 32:16

I think it's hard. I think the mind game changes, it doesn't ever go away. Give yourself grace. Love yourself. You're doing the best you can. We're all doing the best we can with the tools we have and with our life. So be kind to yourself, love yourself. And I think that's the hardest thing to do sometimes because it's the easiest to take it out on ourselves. But just be kind to yourself and give yourself time, give yourself grace.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

Like we ever get on YouTube and search up affirmations because I do it all the time. No crap, my mind's playing games with me. I'm gonna pull up YouTube and I'm gonna look like affirmations for losing weight or affirmations for feeling my best. In my scenario, I love the wealth as the wealth affirmations. So there's a couple YouTube videos that I just will play on once a day, and I just lay there and it tells me I am filling the blank. I am, and it and so it can really help just listening to somebody else filter your mind, and then they're free. Just go to YouTube affirmations.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

That's awesome. Another big thing for me, honestly, that's helped is I have a 10-year-old girl and she sees what I'm doing, and she's getting to that age where she's starting to be like, Mom, do I need to eat healthy food? Is this healthy? Is that not healthy? And to put that more in perspective of being like, okay, I don't want her to worry about her weight. She doesn't need to, she's little, but making healthy choices and not letting her hear me say things about myself. Because if I say something about myself, she hears it. That girl can be the other side of the house. And if I'm critical, she hears it. So trying to go at it from okay, how do I want my kids, my little girls, to view themselves and to see themselves? Okay, would I say this to my kid? No, then why am I saying it to myself?

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Like that's a beautiful lens to look at it through that way, and it is a fine line. You know, you're gonna teach your kids through your example, and the whether it's good or bad. And listen, I always say we're doing the best we can, but sometimes we're still gonna screw things up. But looking at that lens of how we treat ourselves and how we nourish ourselves, both spiritually and physically, is really it's easier to see it through our kids' eyes. And what are they gonna emulate? What are we teaching them? So I think that's great advice.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Yeah, that's been my biggest thing. She's awesome because she keeps me in line. I'm like, okay, I gotta be good. And yeah, it's okay to have snacks, and it's okay to have a treat sometimes. But are we eating healthy? Because teaching them, okay, we can't live off of bags of chips. I know that's what you want to live off of, but we need protein, we need to have real food, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

So yeah, I think it should be viewed as a treat. And that's we somewhere along the line stopped looking at a candy bar or a piece of cake as a special something that we did as a special occasional thing, and it became more the normal diet every day. I'm having XYZ or three times a day, five times a day. Yeah. And I my mother tells a story to Sai. I know we're gonna wrap up and tell this really quickly. So my mom grew up and she had five siblings, and they didn't have a lot of money, and they would get a pint of ice cream, a pint for a birthday. Okay, so however many people in the family, the special treat was a pint of ice cream, and they would take it out of the container and it got sliced. A pint for the seven of them, her and all of her siblings. How many people sit down with a pint of Ben and Jerry's, and that's what they watch television eat the whole pint? So, somewhere along the way, we miss the idea that yes, we can still have those things. They should be occasional, they should be a treat and not our everyday nourishment.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Right, and just having that healthy relationship with food and okay, like I love food, I love food, I love my treats, but is that gonna make me happy long term? Like a very right now it's gonna satisfy me, but long term it's not.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

It's key. Yeah, yep. All right, Kate. Thank you so much for being willing to share your journey and to really let people know go low and slow and trust the process because that's really the goal is go low and slow, trust the process, let it be a long-term thing, not a short-term quick fix. And that's why we see all the negativity around these things because people treat them like they're a short-term quick fix when they're not.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

All right, Jess, where can they learn more about you? Absolutely. Come and find me, follow me on Instagram. I am JessB.talkshealth. Right there, you're gonna find more education, how to source peptides safely, all of the things. And if you don't want to do that because you're not on the socials, you can come and get me on my website, which is b2bewithjess.com.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

You're gonna find me and how to get started at drkylieburton.com. This is pep talk, peptides unpacked. See you next time.