Episode 9: Beau is Afraid

In this Episode of SplitScreen, we analyze the movie "Beau is Afraid", directed by Ari Aster, as part of our A24 Series, starring Joaquin Phoenix. 

Transcript

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Trigger warning. This episode contains mature themes such as death, sexual conduct, and discussion of trauma. Listener discretion is advised.

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There was cynical payment, there was an associate. There was cynical payment, there was an associate.

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Before we get into the nitty and gritty. Hello everybody, and welcome back to Split Screen. My name is Kyle Clark.

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And I'm Angelica Clark.

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And this is a podcast where we do deep dives in the minds and lives of horror movie villains, suspense thrillers, and true crime stories.

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And I am a licensed clinical therapist, and I essentially will be diagnosing the main characters of whatever movie, book, or TV show we are discussing.

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And before we get into the meat and potatoes, or as I like to say, before we get into the nitty and gritty, we have a couple of announcements to make. One of them is kind of more of an explanation as to why it's kind of taking us a little longer to get some episodes out. We're in the process of moving. I have been really sick, lost my voice for a while. I will myself be going through some sort of surgery in the really near future. So that might also hinder on how not the next episode, but maybe the episode after either it comes out, or it just might be my beautiful wife's voice that you hear the whole time and I just edit it. But with that being said, is there anything you would like to add?

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What is launching next week?

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So we are launching our Patreon next week.

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What is a Patreon?

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So for those of you who don't know, if you go to patreon.com and look for split screen ICT, you will find our page. And what that will do is it technically it's a donating service. You can donate a dollar, you can donate $50, you can donate a million dollars, please. Um literally what you do is you donate whatever you can, and that gives you access to something that I am launching next week as well. And I will be doing a segment on our Patreon where I read AI generated creepy pastas.

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What are creepy pastas?

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So creepy pastas or spooky spaghetti. It's just scary stories. Some fictional, some might not be fictional. But what I want to try to do is I want to see if AI can scare us. And I love reading creepy pastas. I also love talking. So that will also be part of the Patreon subscription. And once we get through some of those, I do have plans to doing a history of filmography that will be available on the Patreon. I will obviously say more about it whenever it's getting ready to launch in the episode we're just doing at the time. But yes, please be on the lookout for that.

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And as a reminder for those of us, um well, not even a reminder, for those of you that have been listening, this is a reminder for those that are new. Um, we are continuing our A24 series, and I have a hunch we're almost done with it, but we will be talking about Bo is Afraid.

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Yeah, and kind of going based off of what she just said too, if you have any ideas of a series you would like us to do, even if it's something that's been heavily covered, if you wanted us to do a series on serial killers or cults, stuff like that, um, shoot us an email and we'll see what we can do. But, like what she said, we are getting into man, what like we're diving into a film that feels more like a fever dream you had in a cold sweat. Happy accident. Guess who the director is?

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I don't know.

unknown 4:19

Ari Aster.

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It's Ari Aster. Now this film did come out in 2023, but I I really honestly didn't feel like I even heard about it until within like the last twelve months.

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Yeah. Which is crazy because the main actor is one of our favorites.

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Yeah, I mean it's Walking Phoenix, and uh the one thing this this man knows how to do is really dive deep into portray the characters that he's playing, and in this film, it is almost impossible to determine what he's playing. We go through the odds and ends through this person's life in a way I have never seen on film before. But it's like really to understand Bo is afraid, you have to accept one rule. And that rule is the camera is not objective.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Like when when that was spoken to me, it it just the film finally kind of clicked. But the crazy thing is with this film, I feel like your iteration of it is gonna be more of the meat and potatoes of this episode because it is it is full of so much. Uh it it's I it's so hard to understand. I don't even think watching it ten times would be enough to know every little thing. Because like I've said in the last two episodes, Ari Aster and A24 are extremely good at literally filling your TV screen with everything and giving you the ability to interpret what you're seeing. So, from your perspective, when we were watching this film, we kind of have an idea of what this film is from the actual title. He's afraid.

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He's got anxiety from what even the description of the movie talks about his anxiety.

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Let's get into that. Cause it's it's not just anxiety.

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No, not even in a little bit.

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So fill it fill a set.

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Well, uh, there's so much. So How about this?

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Let's let's kind of break it into sections. Okay. There, for the listeners, just so that you're aware, there is so much to unpack here. We are not ever going to be able to cover it all. But it's not enough to where you won't understand what we're talking about towards the end of this episode for a two-part or so. We're gonna kind of break it off into sections and discuss the major things that we have seen that allowed us to come to the conclusion that we did. And so let's let's break it off into sections of let's start from the very beginning to just before he loses his keys. So a lot of things happen in between there. What was your biggest focus on when you were watching it? What what did you grab on to?

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All of the chaos going on, like, doesn't seem real. Like it almost seems like this is all in his head. Or honestly, as someone with OCD, I almost saw OCD at the beginning. When you have OCD, it's I know I struggle with worst possible scenario. Like anything that could that could possibly happen is gonna happen. You know, you try to do everything you can to prevent that, but you can't always prevent it. But like I almost saw that with him. And then you're like, okay, yeah, he's anxiety he's he's anxious, he's got anxiety, that's why he locks himself in. And at first you're kind of like, or is this guy cr is he's is he's psychotic? Are these things that he's just uh are he are these hallucinations going on around him?

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Yeah, and like just a real quick to paint you guys a picture in case you haven't seen the film, when he's out in the streets, when when she says chaos, there there's dead bodies on the ground. There's things on fire, there's people yelling at each other, there's people dancing. There's a guy chasing people naked with a knife, like there's And he's kind of a part of the film too, because he comes back a few times, but you know, full disclosure, you're gonna see full frontal in this film. So if you go watch it, make certain that you are of age to watch this film. But um but that's what she means by chaos, and it's constant, it's always happening. But as the viewer of the film, we are also seeing this. So it almost kind of confuses you.

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Like puts you in there. It's like mid-somar. Where like you're you're almost like there with him, experiencing what he's experiencing.

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That I that that kind of just blew me away. You're absolutely pre- it's mid-somar on the the craziest amount of steroids.

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Or mid-somar on ecstasy, which they were kind of already on it, so if you can imagine.

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Yeah, ecstasy with like with paranoid schizophrenia.

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Yeah. It starts off with this middle-aged man, and he's just in this apartment by himself, and he's getting ready to go see his mom, and you don't know much about his mom yet. He has now you think he has like social anxiety because he doesn't leave his house, he lives by himself, he clearly lives off of disability, he doesn't work, and then like his mom, like he loses his keys because he takes this new medication that his doctor told him like you have to take with water, and then like, of course, again this goes back to like all the possible bad things that could happen could are happening where he doesn't have any water, and then he turns his faucet on, there's no water coming out, and then so he tries to decide do I leave my safe apartment in the chaos and run across the street and get a bottle of water, and then like just one thing after another, and then his mom calls him asking him where he's at, and and he's like, Well, I'm in my apartment and I lost my keys, and she just automatically assumes he's lying because he's trying to get out of going because that kind of makes you think like okay, yeah, he that he does this, like he like maybe he's coming up with excuses, but we're actually seeing these things happen, so then you're kind of like, Well, that's rude.

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Yeah.

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Again, you're not really you're not really sure what's happening. Like the whole entire freaking movie, you're just like, What is what am I watching? As you get further along, like I start to no longer see anxiety, and I do see kind of like schizophrenic behavior. I don't think that's what it is. I have a couple theories.

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Well, and it's like well, I mean, I I also have my own theories, but I'm also the one that doesn't have the license, so anything like that you won't hear my opinion on directly because I can't I don't have anything to back up what I'm saying.

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Well, and I just want to add, like, it's a movie. I'm not diagnosing a real person, you know? So don't come at me.

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But like with yeah, like with him losing his keys and like there's even a scene where like he's just trying to take a bath.

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And some guy falls on top of him from the ceiling.

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He's just hanging up there, like in an impossible position.

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This guy has a spider on him. The spider gets on his face, and then he falls, and it's just ugh, this huge mess.

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Yeah, and trust me, folks, by the end of this episode, when we talk about the end of this film, you're gonna understand how ridiculously crazy this film can get. Once we've really kind of start to see the conversation he actually has with his mom about losing his keys and how frustrated she sounds, and then knowing what we know about the film, what she does because of it. And in my opinion, a lot of what is going on with Bo is coming from his mom.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Correct. Yeah. Do we want to talk about that yet, or do we want to wait on that, on what mom has implanted into his brain?

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I I think we should let's let's dive into it. Because the relationship he has with his mom is is, in my opinion, is the actual story that Ari is trying to tell during this crazy film is the dysfunction that he has between being a son and his mother being a mother.

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Yeah. Well, actually, before we get into that, and I want to wait for a reason. So I think one of my theories for Bo. Have you heard of schizoid personality disorder?

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Yes.

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Okay. So it's not the same as schizophrenia, it's not the same as schizoaffective disorder, it's not even really like a a psychotic disorder, it's a personality disorder.

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It even used to be a derogatory term in the early 90s when somebody would call you a schizo.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so it's a cluster A personality disorder. So there's three different clusters. There's cluster A, cluster B, and cluster C. Well, this is kind of the overview of what schizoid personality disorder is. It is um social detachment, limited emotional expression, and a strong preference for isolation. People with this disorder um rarely desire close relationships, including family. They're often seen as loners, they are they're kind of looked at as like different or they're just odd, eccentric maybe. Um they exhibit kind of like a restricted range of emotions, often appearing detached, humorless, they avoid social activities, they have a lack of desire for relationships. They this one not so much Bo, but typical people with schizoid personality disorder, they're typically indifferent to approval or criticism of others, which I don't think he has. Um maybe he does. They derive little to no pleasure from sensory, bodily, or interpersonal experiences. They just don't feel the same things that we feel. They don't have very many close relationships. Overall, their impact on their life, like individuals often function best in isolation. Maintaining any sort of relationship is challenging. They act because they act distant and aloof, or like they just don't have relationships because they don't have any desire to have them. But the reason I wanted to wait to talk about mom for a second is because when we talk about her, it might make sense to what I'm telling you next, which is that theories suggest that a lack of nurturing or a cold, neglectful environment during childhood may contribute to the development of this disorder. Which we know that his mom was very cold, very the opposite of nurturing. I it's like his sense of almost like paranoia, I guess. Um which the crazy thing about it is these people live in isolation, but they don't feel lonely. Like, you know, if you're like by yourself, you're isolated, you feel lonely. They don't get that. That's just they don't they just don't feel that at all. It's just kind of how it is. Um they also may experience like a painful dilemma of like needing security, but also not desiring any connection. So they have that hard decision of like I don't want connection with someone, but I do still want to feel secure. Oftentimes they don't seek help because their behavior is seen as normal or they lack the desire to change. I mean, if you're d some people could just be like, they're just an introvert. They just they're a homebody. You know, but really they don't know what's what's going on with them. They just don't have that desire to be around people, which I could see that. But I could also see I could still also see the the schizophrenia piece too, where he's very paranoid. But I think his mom has something to do with that as well. And so if you want to get into his mom and why we think she might have something to do with that.

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His mother, Mona. She she is a real man, she's a real piece of work, this woman. I don't know if you kind of felt this, but man, does she not have Augusta Gean vibes to you? Yes.

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There's a very much edible complex going on between Bo and his mom.

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Bo is afraid.

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Of his mom.

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Of his mom.

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Yeah.

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And he's afraid of disappointing her. Like even his therapist in the beginning asked him if he would like her to die. And we never could get an answer from that because, like, even I said it, like, I almost felt like his therapist was also on his mother's payroll.

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Well, yeah, he was.

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And we find out later on that, like, everything in Bo's world almost seemed handcrafted by his mom.

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Yes.

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His mom put the thought in his head that the outside world is not safe. Even the word safety is a lie.

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Yeah.

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And you do that to a young child. The developmental issues that come with raising a child like that. But we also see in the very beginning that Bo had a not so easy birth either.

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Mm-hmm. And but like, also you don't really even know what's going on. Like, you're like, was he dropped? Was he like injured? Like, we really don't we really don't know. All we hear is mom talking.

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Yeah. And she s definitely seemed concerned at that point. But with this film, and I don't know if we can really get into talking about Bo's mom without addressing the journey that it takes Bo to get there.

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Wow. Yeah.

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We don't really have to go heavily in it, just because I would really like for you guys to sit down and watch this film if you wanted to at some point, and I don't want to give too too much away. What Bo goes through just to get to his mom, so the whole premise of the film is Bo is gonna go see his mom for a weekend, and all hell breaks loose. Bo somehow manages to find himself getting hit by a bus, getting stabbed, finds out Mona, his mother, is headless, that a chandelier dropped on her head and she was dead, and one of her only wishes was for I cannot be buried unless Bo is here.

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So the people that hit him take him in, they fix his wounds because one of them's a doctor, but they almost like hold him hostage in the house, and like their son died, he's in the military, and so they're like he almost like replaces their son.

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We almost could do a whole episode on just that part of the film. Because with this movie, you're watching multiple movies.

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I know, it's crazy in the span of one. Like the daughter hates him because she thinks he's replacing my brother, and then like he keeps trying to go home, and the lawyer's like, you know, we can't bury your mom, she needs to be buried, she's dead, and you're taking your sweet time to get here, even though we know it's not his fault, and then like the daughter tries to sabotage a bunch of things, and then you just find out these people are liars and they're keeping him there on purpose, and it just it's just a whole and Bo manages through a lot more than that to get to his mom's house.

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Literally, he's walking up to the door as the wake is over. And now he's in this house alone with his mom's body is still in the casket in the viewing room, which is ext it is extremely typical for viewings to be like that, especially if you either in your own home, and if in case you didn't know, before there were funeral homes and that kind of thing, people had their funerals in their living room. So not uncommon. Bo ends up reconnecting with uh an old girl that he had met during like a weird kind of like cruise, like hotel thing that him and his mom did when he was a kid.

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They're probably like 12, 13, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Um yeah, he meets this girl. Girl seems to kind of be on his level already before Bo gets to that level later on in the film. Well, she ends up working for his mom, he finds out they end up having the strangest sexual encounter I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Well, let's get into that really quick. What is the significance of that? Do you want to talk about it or do you want me to?

SPEAKER_00 21:42

I want I want you to talk about it, but I want to address something real quick before we get into it. If you go back and you watch this film, up until this point in the film, you will see some things. And by some things, two things Bo is walking around. With a literal pair of coconuts.

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No, I would say watermelons.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Um, it definitely appears that he has elephantitis of some sort through the entire film.

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But like when we first watched that, we thought it was like we thought we were seeing shit. And we're like, no way. Why is that a thing?

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And then we literally rewinded it back and paused it and stared at this dude's testicles in utter disbelief.

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Just like, what the hell? But it's because his mom said that his dad died on their wedding night when they were consummating the marriage because he has a condition where it caused having sex for the first time caused him to have a heart attack and die. And that's how Bo was conceived. But then she told Bo his entire life that's gonna happen to you because it's genetic. And so he goes, he's in his forties probably, maybe older. He's gotta be older. And goes through his whole life think like with his mom telling him, like, you can't even kiss a girl, you can't have a relationship, you can't do any of this because you're gonna die. So he's terrified that if he has any sort of physical intimacy with somebody, he's going to die. And then what's crazy about the sex scene is like he lives and he's so excited, and he's just like, Wow, I I can't believe I'm not dead. And then she dies like immediately, and you're just like, What the hell? What just happened? And like his mom's watching the whole time.

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Yeah, because his mom staged her death. She staged her death to make her son feel more guilty about not being able to come see her. Just as an ending conversation to the testicles, the rest of the film they're normal. Because it was a visualization of pent up.

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But people do mention it, like the people who rescued him.

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Like, whoa, you got a problem going on here.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

They're like, hey, we noticed a little something, something. His mom almost has an unhealthy obsession with him. Like, that's her baby boy, and she will do anything for her baby boy. But like, at the same time, she keeps all these secrets from him and lies to him, and I I wanna get into this a little bit when I was doing some research about like what other professionals have thought about this movie. And I r I want you to listen to this. Are you familiar with Freud?

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

So you know that Freud is the founder of like the psychosexual part of psycho like psychoanalysis. Yeah. Psychosexual theory.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

Yeah, he introduced it.

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I hate Freud, I'm just gonna come up and say it. Um But Bo is Afraid, some people think is like a Freud it's a whole movie about a Freudian guilt trip. And this is why. Explores the themes of trauma, castration anxiety, and extreme mother-son dependency. So some of the themes, like of course, like I talked about with the edible complex, um, castration anxiety, the we haven't talked about this yet. The penis monster up in the attic, the attic that he's not allowed to go into. The giant penis monster is interpreted as a manifestation of Bo's repressed sexuality and fears. And then unconscious re this was really cool, unconscious and repression, water imagery throughout the film is thought to represent the unconscious mind. So you're familiar with like the un like the conscious, unconscious, subconscious, right? Yep. And the attic represents the subconscious, which is a place containing suppressed memories. Um the film is viewed as imaginative internal world of the protagonist. It's often unclear if the bizarre events are real or hallucinations, uses guilt as a driving force. But there's also like talks about specific scenes, like the birth opening. The film begins with a chaotic, traumatic birth scene, um, which has from his first moment of life, Bo thinks with fear, and the mother as subject is dominant. He confronts the attic, which is his psychosexual or his sex monster or his twin. Um the play in the woods. The sequence is seen as a key to understand the film, acting as an allegoral, allegorical representation of Bo's anxieties about potential futures, because if you see, all the plays are somewhat about they're about Bo, but other people are watching his story. Um, from theoretical perspectives, from a Freudian perspective, the it's often described as a Freudian Odyssey deeply influenced by psychoanalysis focusing on the sexual angst, um, from Carl Jung or the Jungian. Water imagery suggests a focus on the unconscious mind and the return of repressed, but then like modern psychoanalysis, the film explores a psychotic world and alien personality as described by studies in modern psychoanalysis. Um, so some people see it as like a psychotic break reflecting a long suppressed childhood memory, or it's a form of like externalization of Bose fears. I think it can be a little bit of everything. Um but I ultimately think it kind of goes back to trauma. We know he's got trauma somewhere from mom.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Yeah, and like speaking of mom and kind of going further with your Freudian stuff. You want to hear what I wrote down?

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

So in um in Freudian terms, this is a devouring mother archetype.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

She provides life but demands total ownership of it in return. Hence the constant guilt trips that she sends him on. Goes as far as faking her own death, yeah. Having people hundreds of people involved.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Like, there's even a scene toward the end of the movie where there's a a portrait of his mom on the wall, but if you get close enough, it's a portrait that is made of little pictures of the people working for her, including the two people that hit him with the car.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Including his therapist.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

And his therapist, and but I I think I don't know, it's really hard because there's so much going on in this movie that it's actually a lot harder to kind of dive into from a psychoanalytic perspective because you just don't really know.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

I mean, yes, I think he's traumatized, yes, I think his mom's a narcissist. But I mean I also think he could be a little paranoid and he could be over exaggerating. Or like maybe the whole thing is him just having one big delusion. Or like back in the day before schiz 'cause I don't know if you knew this, but before the DSM five came out, schizophrenia was actually split up into different types of schizophrenia. Like you'll hear people say paranoid schizophrenia.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

Um you'll hear people say like you'll hear people just talk just say different types of schizophrenia. Paranoid schizophrenia was the type of schizophrenia that was just paranoia. But now they've lumped everything just into schizophrenia. And he's almost got these like accusatory delusions, like everyone's out to get him, everyone wants to hurt him. So it c it literally could just be that he's schizophrenic. And at the very end, his mom is like trying to get him to realize like that he's he needs help. Yeah. You know, it very well could be.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

But it could also be that he was literally made that way by his mother.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Well, you know Bo is afraid it it's technically a comedy.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

It is pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

But it's a divine comedy. It's a movie for anyone who has ever felt like they owe the world an apology just for existing. Is it a masterpiece? Is it a mess? Maybe it's both. I know one thing though, is I'll never look at a chandelier the same way.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

I'll always think of Bo.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

Don't walk under chandeliers, my friends, because you will I'm gonna pull a coach from Mean Girls. Don't walk under chandeliers. Because they will hit you and they will decapitate you and you will die.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Um I'm not quite sure if this is the end of our A24 series.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I think we've got a couple more movies in us.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

We got a few more, I think.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Um I've got some people asking for us to do certain ones, so I think we might do two more and then move on.

unknown 31:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

And like I said, if you have any ideas for what you would like us to do, and maybe it's not even a series. Maybe we just do a couple of random films that don't involve really anything but what we want to talk about and then go into the next series.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Or like if you want us to just do movies with a specific actor.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Like several movies with this one actor, you know.

unknown 31:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Oscar Isaac, I'd be totally fine watching another Oscar Isaac movie or another ten.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Hey, I would be totally fine getting a little bit of Anthony Hopkins in here with Silence of the Lambs. Oh Clarice. But thanks again for everybody who is still sticking around and listening, listening to us chit-chat, and I really hope everything's going okay out there for everybody, and our world will get to a point where we can even out again. There's just a lot of weird things happening all at once, and we are doing our best to continue to put out great content for you guys. And like we said in the beginning of the episode, next week I will be launching our Patreon, and please go give that a check, see what you can do with that, and hopefully you like what AI comes up with. I'm really, really excited to start this segment because we will be going into this every episode on Patreon together, having no clue what we're reading or listening to. And I I don't think there's any better thing I can do. Forgive me if I choke up on my words or if I may not know how to say something properly because I'm still uneducated apparently. And um, but yes, I'm very excited to launch that. And thanks again, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Have a good night.