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Forty-Dollar Cocktails, A Quarter-Sized Strike Zone, And Other American Nightmares

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We vent about rising prices from fruit to $40 cocktails, then get into coaching craft: how to handle umpires, when to take an ejection, and why culture and continuity beat raw talent. We close with WBC picks, MLB sleepers, and a dugout tale from Yankees camp.

• grocery, gas, and event price shocks 
• youth gear costs and smarter buying 
• player development through clear standards 
• umpire communication tactics and boundaries 
• strategic ejections to back players 
• offseason gains across freshman and sophomore groups 
• culture, continuity, and Jupiter expectations 
• WBC brackets, favorites, and sleepers 
• MLB hot takes on bullpens, injuries, and underdogs

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Welcome, Cicero Pride, And Setup

SPEAKER_05

Hi, it's me again. It's Josh. Um, just a precursor to this episode, Dan's a little bit under the weather, and he might sound a little bit like Winnie the Pooh without his honey. So just a precursor, but we have a guy to help fill in the void, an Italian from Cicero, Illinois, the home of Al Capone, if I'm not mistaken. Marco D'Angelo. So for all of you people out there that are listening to the Good Man Show, you're gonna hear a boy from Cicero, a boy from I think it's Lagrange, Lagrange Park, or somewhere around there. And then you're gonna hear a guy from the south side of Chicago breaking it down on another episode of The Good Man Show.

SPEAKER_06

Welcome to the Good Man Show with Bruce Sauce and Lord Puck.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, it looks like you've been through the grinder.

SPEAKER_06

The voice is a little beat up. We had to skip the show Monday because I physically couldn't talk for three days. But we're gonna get through it. We got a special guest, a lovely guest, the man, the myth, the legend, Marco D'Angelo back on the show. Marco, welcome in.

SPEAKER_05

What do you hear? What do you say? Welcome back, Marco. We love you. I'm glad to be back.

SPEAKER_00

Hello, hello, cast.

SPEAKER_05

You're you're a boy from Cicero, right? Yes. What's the hardest thing that people what makes Cicero a man out of people?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I mean, just being from Cicero itself. Because everybody hates on Cicero. Just because it's Cicero.

SPEAKER_05

It's like Detroit. Detroit versus everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Cicero gets a bad rap, the whole Al Capone stuff, what it is now, this, that, the other. Oh, you go you live in Cicero. Yeah, I do. I got a lot of respect for Cicero. That's right. Hey, it takes it not everybody's cut out for Cicero.

SPEAKER_06

To be honest, if you go back to uh some nonsense that happened probably what four years ago when all the madness was going on in the city and it started coming this way, do you know what stopped them from getting like all the way this way? Cicero? Bingo.

SPEAKER_00

That's right, baby.

SPEAKER_06

The dudes from Cicero, the old school dudes from Cicero lined up and said, I don't think so. Go ahead, head on back.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, the boys from Cicero.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, so don't mess with Cicero, dude. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00

Don't. Hey, don't. You don't mess with Cicero.

SPEAKER_06

Well, welcome back, Marco. Yeah, Marco, thanks for coming.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad to be back, boys.

The Price Of Everything Rant

SPEAKER_06

I'm I I'm happy you're here. It's gonna take off a little of the talk for me. Uh, Josh wants to talk a little bit, a small talk here of uh the price of things nowadays, which I'm kind of curious. Oh, I agree. I'm I'm curious what you would like to say about the price.

SPEAKER_05

I got something because I well, here's the thing they they cry. I was talking to a coach about this tonight, and they cry inflation and they cry money, money, money, but it feels like all these people are making more money, the prices are going, and I'm getting paid the same amount of money. And then all these other bums are getting paid the same amount. They're not bums, they're actually hardworking people. You know, I'm thinking about these people, you know, they talk about the communist class, the working party, and I'm no communist, you know. I love capitalism, Marco. I love capitalism. The concept of I beat you, you beat me, and you know, some people there it's like the song, Don't Stop Believing.

SPEAKER_00

Don't stop believing.

SPEAKER_05

The movie keeps going on and on and on. But I'm going into Aldi the other day, and I'm coming, and this is Aldi. It's supposed to be cheap. You know how I know it's supposed to be cheap? They only have one person at the register when there's a hundred people in the store. The lights are dimly lit. I don't think they spend any money on um on lights and um a couple other things that make things cost effective, but even then, I'm still paying$4 for a pound of strawberries. I'm paying$3.50 and$4 for a pound of blueberries. The same prices for all these other big box stores, but multiply that times possibly$1.5 or two. Why are the prices like this? How am I supposed to eat healthy on a budget when they're just trying to push me towards the Chick-fil-A$1 menu?

SPEAKER_00

They got any Mackinac peaches over there? Uh sometimes it's seasonal, you know. That's why I made fruit, you know, prices. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

No, like the ribeye is$20, dude. I can go to Longhorn Steakhouse and get myself a$20 steak, a$10 um lemonade. No, it's actually not$10, it's$3.50, all you can drink lemonade. And I'm walking out there paying a bill of like$35 and I feel so happy because they gave me so much good bread.

SPEAKER_06

I got two uh fillets of salmon from Jewel the other day for seven out of three.

SPEAKER_05

Which um are you talking about the they sliced in half? Yeah, I mean it was probably skinless ones. Yeah, yeah. You see, that's price gouging. Both of those things should be two dollars. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06

You know, back in the day, I felt pretty happy about my little seven bucks.

SPEAKER_05

That's the trick. Like gas, this this arbitrary pricing on gas. One day it's two sixty-nine, next day it's three twenty-nine. Yeah, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

I agree. They're selling like you gotta be like have an app for a gas station now, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you need an app to go into Jewel. What what about the price on bats?

SPEAKER_05

Price on bats, dude. It's back in the day, back in the day, I was able to get a cat seven, cat eight, whatever, for 250.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think my D Marini, when I was in college, my college bat, I think I don't think I paid over$300 for it.

SPEAKER_05

That same bat I paid for.

SPEAKER_00

And that was a brand new bat that year that like came out.

SPEAKER_05

That bat that bat now is probably$500 to$550. All these colorful, uh why do why do they have all these colors? Even though those combat bats look pretty cool, I will say that. But damn.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's just MLB now, how they're marketing everything. Like, look at Jazz Chisholm. The guy plays for the Yankees, navy blue and white and gray colors.

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Purple.

SPEAKER_00

But he's got every other color under the sun. You know, he's got a purple glove, he's got some green cleats, so it's just you know who started that? And it's all for the children now, too.

SPEAKER_05

You know who started that?

unknown

Who?

SPEAKER_05

Joanius Monceda.

SPEAKER_00

Oh mancada.

SPEAKER_05

That guy with those green spikes.

SPEAKER_06

I'll never forget the game. I wore that dude out from the scout seats. Wore him out for eight. Oh, his last abat when he punched out. He actually looked at me. I said, I'm still here. I waited for all your he had a homer as what he hit a homer's second abat.

SPEAKER_05

I'm still here. I paid my money. I was booing.

SPEAKER_06

No, I didn't pay. And I was booing him the whole time he's going around. I mean, the first thing the guy made two airs of third.

SPEAKER_00

Dude. Yeah, I didn't.

SPEAKER_06

But hey, he looked cute with his green, green neon spikes on him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But Bray, you did that shit too.

SPEAKER_06

That's this is why I talk about the Dodgers.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

No one heard it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_06

It's okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But this is why we talk about the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Like, name who there's one guy in the Dodgers who will show some flair. Is he gone now? But I don't know if he's there anymore. I don't know if he's did he retire.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no. He's not on the I was thinking of one more. He's not on the Zach. So Teoscar Hernandez was only one more. There's one more. I can't think of anybody who.

SPEAKER_01

Kiki. Do you love me? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

He just wears short shorts. Like he's got socks up to his thighs. He's that's one thing I don't like either.

SPEAKER_06

Usually in Royal Blue.

SPEAKER_00

Players wearing their socks, like wearing their pants high or socks up. Like foot pop. Yeah, they got their pants up above their kneecaps. You know who started that? Hunter Pence.

SPEAKER_05

I think he had no choice to.

Gear Costs And MLB Style Creep

SPEAKER_00

He was just an awkward character. Like I remember seeing him a young Hunter Pence on the Astros. And he was so I got I guess it makes sense. What other teams did he play with? I don't know. But what I wanted to say. Did he play with the Rangers? Back to your the your high prices of things. I'm not really, you know, I don't do too much grocery shopping. Why not? Just because I don't, I eat out way too much. I should do more grocery shopping. That's what I should do for Lent. Because you're a man of the people. I should do more grocery shopping for Lent. If you haven't figured out what you're doing for Lent yet, figure it out. But what I wanted to say though. Speakeasies. Don't go to them. Overpriced. I pay, I I I had, you know, an adult pop. Okay. Guess how much I paid for this one adult pop.

SPEAKER_06

Where at?

SPEAKER_00

I was at a speakeasy downtown.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, downtown?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

12 bucks.

SPEAKER_00

I w I wish.

SPEAKER_04

What the hell's a speakeasy?

SPEAKER_06

22.

SPEAKER_00

It's just a fancy name for a bar with dim lights and 22. No. More.

SPEAKER_06

For one adult black.

SPEAKER_00

One drink.

SPEAKER_06

What was the drink?

SPEAKER_00

It was. I don't even know what it was. I had to have the guy explain it to me. I had to tell you.

SPEAKER_06

Was it on the menu?

SPEAKER_00

It was on the menu because I had to tell the, I was looking at the menu. Didn't even know what I wanted.

SPEAKER_05

35. 40. What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00

$40 for what's wrong with you. I wasn't there by my choice.

SPEAKER_05

You weren't there in the head either? I wasn't selling like the Marco I know.

SPEAKER_00

I wasn't there.

SPEAKER_05

Back the blue? Because it's cost effective. Yeah, drinks$40 on drinks.

SPEAKER_00

Even your your regular, you know, um cheaper pop. Yeah, no, dude, I went to nothing's nothing's. I can't get a drink for$3 anymore. If I can't even walk into a spl a spot, put a$20 on the on, you know, the table, and have a good time. That 20 is going to be gone in two seconds. Two drinks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

No, I this um I w I went out with a guy a couple weeks ago. I had now this drink is kind of deadly. It's lemonade, but you can't taste the vodka in it, you know. And um$7 for that thing, man.

SPEAKER_00

And you're not a drinker. I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not a drinker, too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Except at the Christmas party. Except when there's a holiday event. It's holiday season.

SPEAKER_05

The holiday season. But we're going to Florida this week, and you know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

unknown

I can't wait.

SPEAKER_05

Gotta drink that Florida water. Ooh, Galveston water. It's like Galveston. Have you ever been to Galveston? Is there a beach in Florida?

SPEAKER_00

Huh? What? Did you really just ask that? You see, I'm already starting.

SPEAKER_04

That was like your E.T. comment last week. You're right. E.T. 2002. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05

I offended all the listeners with my terrible movie knowledge. But no, I in turn, I mean, this is a rant about prices. And I just uh one day it'll come down. We got gas, we got food, and all that other stuff. I mean, even a bottle water at a sporting event will cost you ten dollars. I just think it's price gouging. I think it's greedy pigs at the top that just want to go wink, wink, wink, wink, oink. And it's time for someone to be a man of the or woman of the people and bring these and bring these prices down. That's all I'm saying, you know.

SPEAKER_00

I I think you get a lot of people agreeing with you.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate all the people that listen to me because I would be nothing without the people that listen. Because some people don't like to listen.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, you know what I appreciate?

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_06

I appreciate that hat. Ooh. It's a good looking hat.

SPEAKER_00

You guys do have some nice hats on. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

For those who can't don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Can't, yeah.

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Because you can't see.

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Can't see.

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The hats are in.

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The hats are in.

SPEAKER_06

One went off the market today. Who? Steph picked himself up a good man hat.

SPEAKER_00

He's a good man.

SPEAKER_06

They're gonna go quick. There's only 25 available.

SPEAKER_00

They look nice. They're a nice black front, black bill with a white little chucker bill.

SPEAKER_06

Good man on the side.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I didn't even notice that. Oh, it's it's sharp. Good man.

SPEAKER_06

Double A killed it. Uh quick shout-out. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to double A. Is Double A's birthday? Today. Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_00

Happy birthday, double A.

SPEAKER_06

We love you, brother. Uh, we appreciate that. They look great, though. Get your hats, man. Get your hats. Get your hats.

SPEAKER_05

For any uniform apparel needs, head on down to Aaron Earhart if your team needs some stuff. Yeah, you hook you up. He will. He will. Yes. He will. You'll find a price. He knows his gear. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

And to mention hats, we also got to mention good old Caliburn bats.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they were in the past couple weeks with some good bat demos. I think they went very well. Um, I don't know how many he sold, but I saw the kids enjoying their experience with them. He has a uh mat finish on one of the bats. I forgot the model, but it was if I was playing again, I would be swinging that bat.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you were talking about how bats are getting expensive. You want a good bat for a good price? Go to Don. Go to Don. Tell me good man show set. You got wood bats now,$300. A wood bat. You're an idiot if you a wood bat for$300 is insane. One swing. Yeah, one swing, you're done. Yeah, you're see you. Yeah, it blows my mind. Especially with these. If I was a parent and had a kid today and they were asking for it's played against sports all day long. That's where I'd be going. You want a wood bat? Go make it yourself.

SPEAKER_06

You know, there's a player here whose dad owns a plate again?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_06

When did that happen when did you hear about this? What do you mean? I never knew this. When did this happen? Connor's been playing here since he was 13. Four or five years? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

He mentioned it last he mentioned it last year to me. Because I brought up played again. He's like, my dad owns one.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What? What? That's what I said. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Played again's a great game.

SPEAKER_00

I got my first glove from a played again sports in Florida. Random. Was it by a beach? I don't know. I was in Orlando. I was on a yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Well, Josh says I know if there's beaches in Florida.

SPEAKER_05

I've only been to Orlando and I didn't see a beach.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta get out more.

Speakeasies, Drinks, And Value

SPEAKER_05

I went, oh, I also went to Pensacola one time. I ran into Pepsi Cola? Pensacola. And apparently there's obsession. The blue Wahoo. There's an obsession with these gas stations. Um some of the players that I coach are like, we're going to the Wawa, we're going to the Wawa. I'm like, yeah, have you met people at the Wawa?

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. The Wawa is so cool. I mean, the food that they got.

SPEAKER_05

Is it a gas station? It is the Wawa.

SPEAKER_06

It's like a convenience store.

SPEAKER_00

It's like a Bucky's.

SPEAKER_05

It is Bucky's Without Bucky. It is Piggly Wiggly without Bucky.

SPEAKER_00

I just under I just kind of learned last month what Bucky's was.

SPEAKER_05

It's uh yeah, it's Bucky Without Bucky, it's Piggly Wiggly Without Piggy, and it is uh Casey's without the C.

SPEAKER_00

Can't go wrong with a Casey's pizza sometime, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06

I'll say this. When I played ball out in uh uh New Jersey and Trenton, we lived in Pennsylvania, and there was a Wawa like three blocks away from our apartment complex. They had a great Buffalo rap.

SPEAKER_00

This is now can you s can you sit in there and eat?

SPEAKER_06

Uh the one I went to, no, but there's ones that like I think you can, yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

I got no beef with Wawa.

SPEAKER_05

I'm trying to gauge what this place is. I have no beef with Wawa either.

SPEAKER_06

I'm just saying it's I'm not I'm not raving about it, but I got no beef with that.

SPEAKER_05

These people were raving about it. It's saying it had to be. And this is a gas station. Yeah, it's had to be on the itinerary.

SPEAKER_00

Now, mind you, look where you're at though. Yeah you're in Florida. People forget Florida is the South.

SPEAKER_05

You know, I go to Florida once a year with Nikki C. We always make we love you. We always make sure to stop by the Waffle House.

SPEAKER_00

And it makes sense from people from the South to get excited. Love the Waffle House. Waffle House is good.

SPEAKER_05

There needs to be one. If there was one here, I would travel across the city to go to it. Oh it would make no logistical or financial sense, but I would do it. Love the Waffle House.

SPEAKER_00

Waffle House is good.

SPEAKER_05

You know, we found the cleanest one. The cleanest, cleanest one. I need to find the complex. It was in between in between games, Nikki C and I. They were playing, this is how I know it was clean. They were playing Ed Sheeran.

SPEAKER_06

Oh. Marco, what do you think of this guy's shirt?

SPEAKER_04

It's a good shirt.

SPEAKER_06

It's a good shirt.

SPEAKER_04

It's my room.

SPEAKER_06

Representing the new brand.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Bronco coach.

SPEAKER_00

Broncos. Guy drives a Bronco. You sound like Jake right there. Yeah, Broncos.

SPEAKER_05

I swear that that's what I was just about to say. I was like, I thought Jake entered into the room. Yeah. Uh that that might be funny. Is this right now? Is this where it changes?

SPEAKER_06

With my voice being more raspy, I've had many people be like, you sound more like Jake now. Like, oh man. Do you never return? I don't know. And Jake is now. Is this what you're saying? I've begun. It's gone. Oh no. If you would have heard me yelling at my 11-year-olds on Tuesday, you would have laughed. I was yelling at him and nothing's coming out. And they're all just staring at me. I'm like, I told you I didn't want to yell. And this is what you kids did to me.

SPEAKER_05

Then a kid tried to climb up a ladder without a harness. Oh yeah. Climb up, wait, what?

SPEAKER_06

Was underneath the gauntlet and started climbing up the ladder with no harness on it.

SPEAKER_05

And he couldn't yell.

SPEAKER_06

And I couldn't yell from the cages, so I had to walk on over and be like, what are you doing? Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, the Rockwell lad. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Norman Rockwell.

SPEAKER_00

I got confused for a second.

SPEAKER_06

All right. Let's get to this first talking point. What? All right. You want to talk about it. Who? There's a lot of things I feel like tonight you want to talk about, so I'm going to let you do your thing tonight. Because you can't talk. That's also part of it. Because I would I I will I will interject a little bit in this category, but talking to umpires. Ooh.

SPEAKER_05

Marco. Hit me up with that. Marco, this is a perfect guy to have on for here.

SPEAKER_06

It is a perfect guy because I think the three of us all have different dynamics of how we approach this. I'll say this. I hate umpires. I hate every one of them. I don't like talking to them. I don't try to be nice to them. I don't try to be buddy buddy with them. And sure, I don't think it helps my case at times. I'm not rude to them all. I do talk to some of them, but I think there's some umpires that I just is like, as long as you call a good game, I got no problem. Do your job. With me, I agree.

SPEAKER_00

I agree on that.

Travel, Wawa Lore, And Waffle House

SPEAKER_05

With me, I I feel as if I'm not going to be their friend, nor am I going to be their enemy. I'm just going to be a bystander. And I'm and with me, and this is how I feel. I read this book, uh, How to Make Friends and How to Keep Relationships for a Long Time. I it's written by Dale Carnegie, I believe. I need to find the complete title, but if you want to get your way with a human being, it is not best from what I've experienced to attack them and tell them that they are terrible at something. So if you want to get what you want, so what I'll do typically is I'll wait. I'll I'll see. They might make early on in the game, they might make an initial bad call. And I don't try to go yell at them across the field. I'll go up to them, get their name, talk to them by their first name in a very low tone that doesn't try to embarrass them in any way. And then after that, we'll figure it out. And I might not agree with it the majority of the time, I don't agree with it, and I walk away. Now, if they continue this behavior, I might start raising my voice in a way. And if it's blatantly obvious that the calls that they're making are there, it's incompetent, then eventually by the end of the game, when they know I'm raising my voice, they know that I think this is significantly bad. And I believe that my chances of calls being changed increase because I've been polite to them the entire time. So when I actually do say something, they know it was bad. And that's how I kind of view it. And there are other times, I actually remember one time I I was actually playing Frank Romano, another coach, he's uh head coach of Timothy Christan. There was a call that I thought was blatantly bad, and I walked up to him and I just stared at him and I didn't say a word. And he goes looked at the guy, and he goes, Coach, I I get it, I get it, I get it. And then went over to his partner, they changed the call. And I said, I learned something that day. Sometimes you don't even have to say anything, you just gotta give them a look. And it's all about just the timely, just because again, it's a human being over there, and I think sometimes coaches feel as if it's just a man in a uniform or a woman in a uniform and not a human being under there. And you can, I'm not saying manipulate it, but make them feel as if you know you're one of them, and you know that you're one of them, and we're on the same side, and just you know, we're here to help each other out.

SPEAKER_06

What uh what about the ump who's so arrogant and unapproachable?

SPEAKER_05

Now there are those out there.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, well, there's there's one every summer, and I don't know where he's gonna be. He and I are friends. So am I.

SPEAKER_05

He I know which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06

No, you know who I'm talking about. Um I'll tell you this. I told that dude straight to his face he's lucky he never owned the game I played in. Because I promise you this, it'd have been a hundred percent guarantee I'd get ejected with that dude. That guy I almost arguably got into it with him last summer because his strike zone was about I don't know, the size of a quarter. He's tight.

SPEAKER_05

He's tight. Yeah, and he he's never wrong. Yeah, um, with those guys, um you can't say anything to him.

SPEAKER_07

You can't.

SPEAKER_06

So to my point, like you have to you have to see that guy like that, and you make a conscious choice. So you either have to deal with it and pray that more things go against the other team than you, because he'll do it for both sides. I watched him do it for both sides, but you have to. Pray that more go against it, and when one bad goes against you, you have to make the conscious choice do you want to stay in the game or not?

SPEAKER_05

I pray to your point. I pray that I'm playing another coach that gets easily aggravated with him and he starts going off on him and hope that the calls start bleeding that way.

SPEAKER_06

Josh likes this guy because he actually listens to his little uh He loves me every time I come back He loves his trickery. Yes. I'll never forget it. The dude Don't you better you can't say I can't say it, but the dude pulls off your your trickery and the other coach starts screaming at the umpire, and he goes, I never called timeout. And he goes, Well, and he goes, So what are you gonna do about it? And it was just like Josh just didn't know Josh. That's exactly what he was doing at third base, right there. That little giggle because he knew he got away with it.

SPEAKER_00

He does his little oh, I'll get you geeky.

SPEAKER_03

Hey! Hey, this guy. Hey, dude, stop! What are you trying to do here? But no, Marco might be kicked off the show. Man, I'm gonna have to edit that out.

SPEAKER_00

I'm with Dan on this one. I don't like umpires. Even if they're nice, I don't want to be nice. I don't want to talk to them. You know, the only time I want to talk to you is at the home plate meeting, and that's it. You know? Um, I've had umpires not have a home plate meeting, so that's already a bad start. So I already don't like you. I already don't like you.

SPEAKER_06

How about how about the umps who tell you to hustle out and off the field but are late to the to the visit?

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, yeah. The umps that are walking in. Are we ready to go? Are we are we ready? Well, my team just walked on the field. Um, my pitcher just started throwing. So, no, we're not ready. Okay. The game just ended five minutes ago. All right, yeah, I hate those umps that try to just rush through, rush through. You're getting paid the same amount whether you stay late or leave early. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

That's why they want to leave early.

SPEAKER_00

That's why they always go, let me just get out of the way. And I hate that. I hate that because then it's taken away from the players. You you're taken away from why the kids are even there. You're not the you're not at the tournament for you. Like I hate umpires that make it about themselves, they're all eight player dude, they play that. Stop talking to my players. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

So you're already coming in. You're like, I don't like these guys.

Raspy Voices And Practice Chaos

SPEAKER_00

I don't like I don't I don't like them. Um they always think they're right. It's tough to even approach umpires, like how you say, I'm gonna approach them calmly. I'm gonna talk to them in a nice voice. Sometimes they don't even want to talk to you. No, blah, blah, blah. And I'm okay, all right. So then when it's that, when there's just bad calls, I'll just be loud. I'll I'll I don't care. I'll yell. I've had I've gotten ejected, okay. Yeah. Um going on three summers in a row. All right.

SPEAKER_05

Last summer too.

SPEAKER_00

Last summer I did get ejected from an umpire that didn't even have a home plate meeting for a semifinal game. Where was this? This was somewhere here in Illinois. We were playing no, was it the championship? I don't know. It was it was uh bracket play, whatever. We were at some location, we played, we won, then we had to go drive to a different location for our game. It was the first time we played there all weekend, first time we were there all day. We get there, we're waiting, we're waiting. I'm waiting. One of the umps is running late. So we're waiting, waiting still. The other guy goes, just take the field. You guys already know who's home and away. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_05

Um I go Oh, I remember this guy, and I remember this tournament.

SPEAKER_00

We got he and I actually got into it. I said so, yeah. I said some, I forgot what I even said, but I was just like, no home plate meeting, blah, blah, blah. He's like, no, I'll take the field, dah dah dah. This so that happened.

SPEAKER_05

It's the guys that were short.

How To Talk To Umpires

SPEAKER_00

Then it's like like dancing, lazy. This guy's walking on and off the field, almost sitting in my dugout in between innings. You know, and it's like, dude, get out of here. He's always on his phone. Mind you, caught I caught him multiple times, a pitch being thrown, and he's not even down at the first baseline looking. God forbid, someone checks swings. Can't appeal to him because he don't know. He don't see. You know, and so it's just like that that gets me going. Um, and then I don't care. I'll get ejected. I don't mind. Sometimes I feel like with me, because I like to be the coach that doesn't yell so much. I don't want to be, you know, uh in my players' face, you know, yelling at them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I like to instill confidence in my players, you know? Calm, cool, and collective. Okay. So sometimes I feel like it's needed to get ejected. Because my players, all right, now, all right. Coaching here. Coaching here, let's go. You gotta have their backs. You know, yeah, and it's just yeah, technically. Always gonna have the players' backs, and yeah, I hate umpires. They're lazy, they take and especially high school, IHH A umpires, oh, brutal.

SPEAKER_06

Just so you know, it's it's no better than like the higher it gets. I actually had an umpire in. I had an umpire in the baseball.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just talking about like physical ability. These guys coaching IH high school baseball. Oh, yeah. Like can't even walk. Oh, well, yeah. You know, and it's like, I do feel bad, but it's like if you're gonna be out here, hold yourself to a standard.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe you should start umpiring. Oh, I've thought about it.

SPEAKER_00

I've thought about it. You and me. I know. One of my buddies coaches, he uh Umpires are coaches. I mean, sorry, uh umpires. He does Big Ten baseball and he does uh one of the summer leagues.

SPEAKER_06

You and me. If I showed up to a game and you two are umping, I'd leave.

SPEAKER_05

You'd leave. Because you know it's already in good hands.

SPEAKER_06

Hold on, who's behind the dish?

SPEAKER_05

Don't matter.

SPEAKER_06

Or that dish sure does matter.

SPEAKER_01

I'll be behind the dish.

SPEAKER_06

I'm out. Um if he's behind the dish, I'm ejected at the at the visit. Which by the way, I've seen a manager get tossed like at the visit. Second game of a doubleheader. Louis Soho. One of my favorite managers I ever played for. I'm sitting in the dugout. I'm one of two guys in the dugout doubleheader in Florida. It's hot as could be. No, Tampa. So no beach.

SPEAKER_05

I'm telling you, there's no beaches.

SPEAKER_06

He comes walking out and he goes, Watch this. Okay. Louie walks right up to the coach's visit, starts chewing out the home plate umpire, starts chewing out the third base umpire, starts chewing out the first base umpire, home plate umpire ejects him, he slams a lineup card on the ground and walks back to the diagonal, goes, See you tomorrow. Right through the tunnel. They're looking at us and they're like, hey, somebody come do it. I'm like, no chance, dude. No, no chance of my walking out there. And then our hitting coach comes walking out, he's like, What's up? I'm like, Oh, Louis just got tossed. Uh somebody's gotta go up there because they keep telling us to, and nobody's going.

SPEAKER_05

So, did he just not want to do two games?

SPEAKER_06

Hey man, uh, Louis's the same dude who uh you'd walk out at about 2 30 in the afternoon, it'd be 97 and sunny as could be out and out of cloud in the sky, and he'd stick his hand in there and he'd go and spit out his hand. He goes, It's raining, no BP today. And then we'd go hit in the tunnel, like we'd go hit inside in the cages. He'd literally, I'm telling you, he'd put his hand out and go, Oh, it's raining, no BP. I'm gonna try that. It was awesome because, like, dude, it was so hot in the tan in the Florida State League that like when you'd have to take BP, we'd all be like, can we please just take it inside? And Louis, Louis, you know, he was a man of the people.

SPEAKER_01

Love you, Louis.

SPEAKER_06

Louis Soho. Good man, Louis. And when they would play his highlight video during rain delays, like if we did have him, he'd make us all sit there and watch, well, watch this one, watch this one. Louis Soho. What a guy.

SPEAKER_01

Umpires. Louis Soho.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe I should do that. Yeah, I agree. If I see that umpire again this summer, well, there's two umpires if I see this summer.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think we're in those. Are we in those this year? What's that? That tournament? What's that turn?

SPEAKER_06

Uh yeah. We are yeah, the first one?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Uh I have a feeling I'll see it. Um because I've gotten ejected in Wisconsin, Illinois.

SPEAKER_06

I think I've got ejected that he's got tossed from.

SPEAKER_00

I've gotten ejected in Wisconsin, Illinois.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, are we in that one? Are we in those? And Indiana. Um Jake's team might have to switch to that tournament though. Dude, I did not I did not come across this until the other day. I had a parent reach out to me. Uh totally forgot about the World Cup going around this year. Uh the World Cup is in Atlanta. What? And Kansas City. What? Dude, we I had a parent reach out to me. The 17-year-olds are supposed to go to Kansas City. Hotels currently for that weekend are 900 bucks a night. Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Kansas City?

SPEAKER_06

In Kansas City.

SPEAKER_00

Sounds like a couple parlays are gonna need a hit.

SPEAKER_06

You know where you should go for that.

SPEAKER_05

Newman's Corner pub. Maybe you can get lucky on the slots.

SPEAKER_00

Don't get me started on these button things.

SPEAKER_06

All right. Off season finished tonight.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Last Sparks North High School practice in the books. I gotta say, I thought it was a hell of an offseason. I I thought the players got better. I really liked uh the talent we have, uh the work that these kids put in. Um it was fun, it was entertaining. Uh what what was your guys' recap of the offseason though?

SPEAKER_00

It felt like the quickest offseason I've had here so far. I don't know why. Um maybe just I don't know. But yeah, it felt quick, but yeah, lots of good young talent. Um I think the freshmen probably from the fall till now, what impressed me the most is some of our freshmen. Some of our freshmen kids. Um, the growth they made from the fall to now, not just like physically and uh but mentally. How they carry themselves, how they go about practice, um, questions they're asking coaches. Yeah, I'm real excited for our freshman group. And my group, go 17s.

SPEAKER_05

I was walking out uh 20 minutes ago, and um Brad Hickey goes, Hey, Josh, can you uh can you talk for a couple minutes? And Brad Hickey, for you people listening, good man. Brad Hickey's been here since day one, and um when Brad talks, I listen. So I was like, sure, Brad, what's up? And uh he just wanted to say thank you. He said, you know, I I'm gonna go so I'll talk about this. Uh he said uh this was Noah's last sparks practice, and I just wanted to say thank you for everything. And a couple days ago, I was talking to someone about that particular team. I remember coaching them one random time when they were in 12U at Redmond. Um I forgot who they were playing. Um, but I remember in the rain, uh EJ Coleman made this crazy Wheelie Mays catch in center field. We were able to win the ball game, but I remember having Noah at 12, and I know he's been here since 11, had him at 12, and then um he's now leaving as a 17-year-old. And so that I think for me was affirmation on you see a kid from 12 and now how he carries himself at 17, and the development of the progression from day one till now, and the parent, and not every parent, and we're not in here for thank yous, but um the the parent just coming up and saying thank you after all this time, and uh that's how the offseason was, you know.

Ejections, Hustle, And Game Control

SPEAKER_06

And Brad came up to me as well and said the same thing, just his appreciation for everything we've done for his son. His his uh daughter also plays for the cheetahs here. Um first class family. Yeah, mom Jess is fantastic. Um been here since the get-go, but JJ's dad came up and said thank you to me as well, and the Rocky said thank you. Like the 17-year-old kids, excuse me, the 17-year-old kids who finished their last practice before they go into their junior year in summer, like it is not their last practice because they still have their senior years to play, and hopefully these kids come back. But statistics show that you know, I don't know, five percent of them are gonna come to practices next year because that's just what tends to happen with the 18-year-olds. Uh it's funny, the sophomores, I was talking to them, and uh, I always am like, you know, what'd you guys think of the offseason? Were you looking for like, man, it's crazy, we only have one more year. I'm like, oh, you're not coming back at 18. No, no, we'll be there, we'll be there. I'm like, you know, every kid here at 16 years old always says they'll come back, but I'll find out like which one you guys mean it, right? And Julian was the only 18-year-old. Well, I take it back, Sully was in there too, but he said he got halfway here, realized he forgot he had bait, didn't have baseball pants. I saw that, so he didn't practice because of that. I was like, why didn't you just go get pants from the back? He's like, I didn't know you had any. He's like, I just didn't want to get in trouble. And I laughed because I'm like, there's an 18-year-old kid who respects us so much that he stuck around the last night, didn't practice because he forgot pants, but just knows our our kind of culture and our guidelines and our policies.

SPEAKER_00

That like he gets it.

SPEAKER_06

It it was one of those ones that was just a funny moment. I was like, that's I got a lot of respect for you. I found out it was him. What?

SPEAKER_05

I found out. Oh I found out it was him. Bond. It was James Bond. It was between two people. Who was the other one? I bet you already know who I thought the other one was. I forgot he was on that team.

SPEAKER_06

And um turns out you always thought it was the other one.

SPEAKER_05

And it turns out he um he was the person to push the engine. Oh, yeah. And then the engine just did what the the pusher wanted.

SPEAKER_06

Did you just learn that tonight?

SPEAKER_05

No, I learned that a couple weeks ago. And you didn't tell me? It just dawned on me when I was eating, because I was like, because Nick Nikki C made a a video about it, and it reminded me of the video, then it everything came back, and I was like, wait a second, I forgot who was on that team. And I've there are two people that are on there, and I know one would stir the other one to do bad things, but yes, found that out. But no, the offseason, um Marco talking about how the freshman improved, how uh my my sophomore class, um, the way how their bodies have maturated and uh their heads have met, and they just carry themselves with a little bit more um discipline. And then also the way they communicate with each other two for some of them, it's two years in a system now. They communicate with each other as if they're tightly knit. And I'm looking forward, they're all gonna have great high school years, god forbid any injuries, and then going into the summer, I think it's gonna be one of the best summers we've had, and and that's what I'm really looking forward to because when you have a team that's played together for so long, and this is we've talked about this already at nauseum in terms of the uh mercenary um the mercenary feel of travel ball. That's why I think when our Jupiter team goes down there, we might not be as talented as um some other national programs that are bringing in everyone from across the nation. These kids have been playing with each other for three, four, five, six years, some of them.

SPEAKER_06

That's actually what we tell the kids. Like we actually feel on paper, we're not the best team, but from a team standpoint, if you guys play baseball together, like you have a better chance to outlast these guys because scout teams, if you get up on scout teams, they'll roll and quit.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Like they will. Our group, which is a tight-knit group and all played together for the most part for a long time, they'll fight together for their boys, like, and there's meaning to it. So, like, I we we actually sell that to them when we put that team together.

SPEAKER_00

I was telling that to Hickey, um uh Brad, because he brought up again, like uh how they've been here so long. And yeah, our like having this organization, like if you're a kid in our organization, you are spoiled. You better take advantage of this. Cause you know, when I played, when Josh played, when Dan played, the this wasn't around. This facility, um, stuff like this was not around. So I think it just it's like just being a part of this program, just it it could take a player so so so far. Just being here. And they don't have to be the best. Like you said, our teams aren't, you know, when we go down to Jupiter, it's not the best team, but just the fact that they've been around each other for so long, they know our culture, they know how to play a good brand of baseball.

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So yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Good ball. All right. You ready? Yeah. It's time for a cup of brew.

SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_06

All right. I told this story the other day at practice, and Josh looked at me and goes, You need to share that uh on the show this week. So I said, Fine. So 2011, I was in big league camp with the Yankees. Uh rocking number 95. I was more of like a get in the games late guy, but you know, I spent three and a half weeks at camp. I was actually supposed to make one start, but I got hurt the day before. Um, but when you're at spring training, like a lot of old-time players will come back, and some guys stay for a week, some stay for a couple days, some stay the whole time. Uh, they come in, they throw BP to you, they they send the dugout. Like being with the Yankees, you get guys who come back all the time. And I will say David Wells was one of my favorite guys who I got to meet. I loved watching David Wells as a as a young kid uh uh watching him play. Um he was a character in the locker room when he was around, but we were playing a game, it was a one o'clock game. We're sitting, I'm sitting in the dugout, and he happened to be sitting next to me, and we were just kind of you know BSing a little bit. And uh we went down like seven or eight nothing in the first or second inning. Like we were down big. And uh sometimes spring training games like that'll just get out of hand. And he looks at me, he hits me on my legs, he goes, All right, I'll be back. I'm gonna go get a workout in, just so you know we're gonna come back and win this game because these guys stink. And I was like, Okay. So David Wells just kind of takes off, goes and gets a workout in. Games going on, score a couple in the fourth, chip away in the fifth. Now the subs start getting in, you know, guys who are fighting for their lives, scratch a couple more in the sixth, you know, now it's a one-two-run game. Take the lead. I think we took the lead in like the seventh or eighth, I forget which one, and I'm sitting in the dugout, and all of a sudden, this big old donkey lefty, sweaty as could be, comes running into the dugout. Hey, where's that kid at? Where are you at? I'm sitting in the dugout. He's like, I told you, I told you we're coming back and win this game. I mean, he is just drenched in sweat. It looks like just staring at everybody's like, what's that about? I was like, I don't know. When we were down like eight, nothing this time. Called it. He hit me in the leg and told me we're coming back to win this game, and he just disappeared into the abyss.

SPEAKER_05

Now, did you um on the way back, uh, were you guys swinging at everything in spring training? Or are you like, Do you take a couple pictures here and there?

SPEAKER_06

Uh well, I'll say this. Uh my first at bat in in in camp, I walked into the batter's box, and it was the ninth inning of the game, and the umpire goes, 95. Said, yeah, he goes, You better swing. I said, I I plan on getting my swings off, but Josh, if we were still down uh, you know, some runs late in that game, no, we're not gonna be swinging the bat because we need to get base runners to you know what a novel is. Try to tie the game or or make the pitchers work a little bit or work some counts and get some base runners. Because if I'm down multiple runs and there's nobody on base, well, last time I checked, if I hit the ball in the park, it's only worth one run. Yes?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Haven't changed it yet.

SPEAKER_06

Then no, I I I wouldn't be ultra aggressive in in that situation.

SPEAKER_05

Question uh and I know it's a little side topic here going off. What would you prefer? They say home run. Do you believe home runs are rally killers?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, depends when they're hit.

SPEAKER_06

Like let's say, okay, let's say uh like if okay, if we're trailing five and and there's bases load and you hit a grand slant. Yes. Yep. What are the chances of you coming back now?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, slim.

SPEAKER_06

It's crazy. Slim. But if you hit a double, people would say different.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're winning the game. That's what I was saying. Why is it like that? Because the baseball gods, man.

SPEAKER_06

It's a weird.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's it's just it's it's how baseball works.

SPEAKER_06

It is.

SPEAKER_00

You're expected to square up a round ball with a round bat.

SPEAKER_06

It's it's no different, but for some reason mentally it's different. It's like this. Okay, you leave a game going two for four, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But you started the game two for two and you ended 0-2.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Are you happy?

SPEAKER_01

No.

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SPEAKER_06

Okay. But if you start 0 for 2 and then finish 2 for 2, you leave the game what?

SPEAKER_00

Satisfied.

SPEAKER_06

But it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

And I think it's a rally killer because I well, I've never been on the bump in this situation. But I think if you're a pitcher and you give you a grand slam, everybody's off the bases, right? You give up a double. This guy. I'm terrible. You give up too many Celsius. I'm gonna have to give up a double the Arab next to this one. You give up a double there, just still runners on base. The fans are still, you know, pounding away.

SPEAKER_06

But I I agree. Like, if I guess I never thought of it that way. As a pitcher, if I give up a grand slam and now it's a one-run game, like, all right, they gotta hit another ball of the park to beat me.

SPEAKER_00

Or get another guy on base. Right, there's a couple more guys on base. They gotta do more again.

SPEAKER_06

If a guy hits a double and he's saying on second base, pitchers, pitchers worry about earn runs. Right? And they always pitch different with guys on base than they do with nobody on base. So mentally, it's almost better that you just give up the grand slam, clear the bases, and now you got nothing like that.

SPEAKER_00

Like, yeah, how much how often do you see a guy balk on purpose to get a guy to third? Because he just doesn't want to deal with a guy on second.

SPEAKER_05

And then also another little side one. What do you think of closers coming in in the eighth inning?

SPEAKER_00

All for it. I mean, anybody coming out of the bullpen, you should, it doesn't matter what inning you come out. You did you're a bullpen pitcher.

SPEAKER_05

Or how about the closer?

SPEAKER_06

I I I I'm sorry, I gotta disagree. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't care.

SPEAKER_05

What about the closer? What about the closer that comes in with like a five-run lead?

SPEAKER_06

I don't care.

SPEAKER_00

I don't care.

SPEAKER_06

You're uh I don't I I don't get the point of it. Unless, unless your bullpen is in a situation where you have guys that are your late guys that are down for the day because they've thrown consecutive days. Like there are there are rotations in the bullpen, especially in professional baseball, where if a guy throws back-to-back days, like he has a day of rest. Or if he throws two innings in a game, like he has to rest for a day or two. Like those guys can't go blast three, four days in a row. Um, so like I think a situation would dictate that. Now, if you have your whole bullpen and you're bringing your closer in up five, the bases better be loaded.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I just see with closers, I mean, all of a sudden they can't find the zone. That's the thing. They need that adrenaline rush.

SPEAKER_00

And I think that's what we're saying. Like, the ninth, it's not the ninth inning, they're not used to it. And back to what I was saying, I don't care. If you're a bullpen pitcher, closer, eighth inning, uh, middle relief, uh long relief, whatever, you're coming out of the pen. It shouldn't matter. The situation run, you do your mindset, I'm coming out of the pen, and I'm not gonna give up anything. That's it. Like I heard Adam, was it Adam Wainwright? Somebody, I think it was Adam Wainwright or something. Um he's talking about like mentality. You know, he's a start, he was a starter, and then he goes, I got asked to close the game once, and it's okay, boom, and I only have five pitches to warm him up. Okay, five pitches I'm warming up, and I'm gonna be ready in five pitches right there. So I guess maybe that's what that's if you're a bullpen pitcher, that's the mentality I'm looking for. I don't care if it's ninth inning, I don't care if we're up one run, five runs, whatever. If you need it, I need you to get hot right now, throw right now, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I have I I I just agree there are some guys that, yeah, it's it's mental.

SPEAKER_05

I just see different things, and I just wonder what you guys are thinking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I don't have a staunch opinion on one. I just see closers if it's not in that closer type of scenario, their their mind kind of trails off. And then um I also in the eighth and in the broad in the eighth, things kind of wander off there too. And if it's not in their set routine, I don't like routines. Sometimes for that, for that reason.

SPEAKER_00

I will say you see it more often though, uh, closers coming in for that five out, you know, four outs.

SPEAKER_06

Because that's what the analytics say.

SPEAKER_00

Four outs say it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, everything's analytics, so I'm in the playoffs, I'm all for it. You go go. Yeah, right. No rules.

SPEAKER_00

Rules in playoffs, the rules are they know rules.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I just do what we need to do. I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_06

Back to what I said. Yeah. There's no such thing as days off in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_06

You're hot no matter what. Yeah. Because and those guys wanted it. Like those guys will throw through all sorts of soreness because they want to win a World Series.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Two, well, sometimes I ask the kids sometimes when I when they're sitting on the sideline, um, and they're like, Coach, I can't run. I can do everything else in practice, but I can't run. And I said, Well, if I offered you$10 million right now to run through the rest of this practice, what would you do? 100% of the time they said, I'll run. Why does it take$10 million?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know. I$10 million sounds awesome.

SPEAKER_00

I know, right? So you're asking me to just run? Well, sure. I can do that.

SPEAKER_06

I'll pull both enemies for that.

SPEAKER_00

I'll give you a nice fat man jog. The umpires. Yeah, oh, don't give me stuff. No, you triggered.

SPEAKER_01

Umpire jog.

SPEAKER_00

I had an umpire last year high school baseball. I swear I think I'm not for sure because I didn't see it, but I heard multiple reports that he had like a wooden or metal leg. And that's why he would take forever.

SPEAKER_05

Was this at Morton?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I had him for multiple. I know I will. I know I will. You gotta take a picture this time with him. I'll try to record him walking from the parking lot. I'll time it. Because the way the lot is set up at Morton, it's like a good 200, 250 yards away. Where is Morton East Field? Oh, we baseball's played at Morton West. It's on Harlem. Oh, it's a nice field. Harleman 26. It is a nice field. I think Morton. I was talking to was it Hickey again? Or a couple other players. Because they're like, you coach at Morton. I was like, we had for all the bad talk about Morton, all you guys out there, go ahead, keep talking. I don't care. Okay. Because, and especially you OPRF guys, you know what happened last year. Um Morton has some of the best facilities in the state. And I've coached at other high schools, okay? You know. Um, and I will say, yeah, talent-wise, maybe not the best, but you're talking about just facility-wise for a kid to get better. Oh, I think it's it's top five. And I think Morton baseball has one of the best dirt fields in the state.

SPEAKER_04

I agree. That's why I brought it up. I was like, nice too. It's beautiful for you.

SPEAKER_06

I met a guy from Morton the other day at my gym.

SPEAKER_00

He like Berwin Berwin Cicero Morton?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I was working out. People always say I always say hello to this guy, and we always we've never really talked, and we were just happening to start talking the other day. Go Mustangs. He asked me where I was from. I said I was around the area. I asked him, and he said, he goes, Berwin. I said, Did you go to Morton? He goes, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He went to West probably though. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_06

And I was like, oh man, I know like I was like, Jake played with a guy from Morton. Because then I asked him when he graduated. So then I started talking to him about some like guys who played ball there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Morton.

SPEAKER_00

Morton's nice.

SPEAKER_06

Go watch out, man.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, we'll get you. We'll get you. Where? We'll get you where it hurts. All right. We'll get you where it hurts. We'll we'll you'll play Morton thinking you're gonna beat us, and then you'll be going home and be like, man, should I still be playing baseball? Because we just lost to Morton. Okay? That's what everybody says. It's it's Morton, it's Morton, it's Morton. People people see us on our schedule, and I know they they it's like a stat day for them. They think it's a stat day. They think it's oh, it's Morton. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Ask Nazareth what happened. Oh they beat Morton last year, varsity, but they were scared. They were tight. They were tight. Ask Tome. What was the score? I think that I think uh Naz probably did. I think they beat him by two.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_00

It was a game. It was a game. Morton almost beat Nazareth last year. Shout out Lee Milano. We're gonna get Lee on the show. We do need to get Lee. He's another good I tell. Don Erickson and Lee Milano. You know, you need Bill Milano on the show. That's who we need. What about all the Milanos? Ooh.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, guys.

SPEAKER_00

That'd be a good one.

SPEAKER_06

There'd be too many Milanos.

SPEAKER_04

That is.

SPEAKER_06

All right. MLB preview. Spring training started.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Right? World Baseball Classic's gonna be here soon. I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, can we talk about Tarek's school being a bum?

SPEAKER_06

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think he's a bum.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's bum-ish. That's compared to what Paul Skeen said? Yeah. Compared to what Paul Skeen said. Oh, I missed this. What happened? So Tarek's only thrown one game.

SPEAKER_00

He's throwing the game he's scheduled to throw.

SPEAKER_05

Against the bums of the bums. Okay. Great Britain. Okay. Who the hell at Great Britain has besides So he said he'll only throw one game.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like no matter how far USA goes, he's only going to throw one game.

SPEAKER_05

He's throwing against Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson.

SPEAKER_00

And Paul Skeens.

SPEAKER_05

Dr. Watts.

SPEAKER_00

Paul Skeens said, I'll throw my schedule game. And if Team USA goes far and I'm needed, I'll throw again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Good man.

SPEAKER_04

He deserves a good man shirt. We should send him a hat. And then Terek School.

SPEAKER_00

Terry School said, I'm just throwing my game and I'm out. He's probably going to throw three innings and dip.

SPEAKER_05

Well, because the score will be 15 to nothing.

SPEAKER_00

I know. There's no run rule though. So I mean they gotta play.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah. Well, again, I just I I was disappointed because honestly, he's my favorite pitcher to watch.

SPEAKER_06

He's nasty. He's competitive. He's out, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, he's nasty. He's my favorite pitcher to watch. And then he says something like that. I'll say that. This changeup is filthy.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, come on, man. We got a sweep.

SPEAKER_04

America. We just took hockey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Say it right.

SPEAKER_04

Hockey.

SPEAKER_06

I got asked the other day by someone if you know more hockey or if I know more hockey. You someone asked me. Who knows more hockey between us?

SPEAKER_01

How about Kyle Clutterbook? Clutterbuck. Yes. Clutterbook. I think he played on the wild.

SPEAKER_05

Kylerbuck. I don't know. Hey, I'm here. I was here when Joe Sackick was skating. Joe Sakick.

SPEAKER_04

That was good hockey. Yeah, yeah, Avalanche. Stevie Eiseman. Peter Forsberg. Paul Coffey. Paul Coffey? Ooh. Who was their goalie? Hold up, hold up.

SPEAKER_05

Patrick Wah. Patrick Wah. It's spelled raw. But it's Wah.

SPEAKER_06

Patrick Wah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, French.

SPEAKER_06

What number was Patrick Wah?

SPEAKER_05

The R is silent? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

I think he was 31.

SPEAKER_05

Well, yeah, no, the MLB, we got the World Baseball Classic. Um, spring training started earlier.

SPEAKER_00

Uh who you picking for the classic? Give me your final right now. Go.

SPEAKER_05

We know who it's gonna be. We just gotta beat him.

SPEAKER_00

Go.

SPEAKER_05

It's gonna be Japan and us.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't know. Those Dominicans, that roster looks good.

SPEAKER_05

They don't again, again. Here's the thing. The DR. No, here's again, here's the thing. No, here's the thing. You know, might be a controversial opinion. I've said this before. I want to look at the best World Series teams. They were ethnically diverse because you need a little bit from everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Now I'm a big believer you need a Japanese guy on your team to win a World Series.

SPEAKER_05

You need black, white, and brown come all together to make one great team. It just balances everybody out. Like the White Sox found out a couple years ago, you can't have a team full of Browns. Yeah, it was a I mean And this is a Brown man talking about.

SPEAKER_00

You won a division once, but yeah. Yeah, but again, it it's I'm saying we, like I was on the team.

SPEAKER_05

You can't have guys You're part of the squad. You can't have guys taking hacks on hacks, and they just it's sometimes you need to play some smart ball, and sometimes you know egos and personalities get in the way of certain types of teams, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So you think it's gonna be Japan-USA again?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, Japan's discipline, they have the pitching. I'm about to say, is that even can it happen?

SPEAKER_00

Are they pulled out? Can it happen like that? Well, we gotta look that up.

SPEAKER_05

You look it up right now.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

I'll talk while you look it up.

unknown

I got you.

Sponsor Shout And David Wells Story

SPEAKER_00

All right, but outside of Japan, you I don't know if it's a sleeper, you know, but the Dominicans. I thought it'd be Puerto Rico. I still like the Dominicans over. You know, Javi's not playing. You know his name's Endel? Who? Yeah, his name well, his name is Javi, but I think that's like his middle name or his second name. Because last year I was watching a game for the Tigers and it said E. Baez, like two for whatever. I was like, who is E Baez? Like, you know, I look it up, it's Javi Baez. But now he goes by, I guess his legal name or whatever, how you know Giancarlo used to go by Mike.

SPEAKER_06

But so there's four, there's four pools.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I think whoever wins the pool advances to the final or the uh semis, yes. Yeah. So pool A, you have Cuba, Canada, Puerto Rico, Panama, Colombia.

SPEAKER_00

Puerto Rico's winning that.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Pool B, you have Mexico, Italy, United States, Brazil, Great Britain. USS Pool C, you have Chinese, Taipei, Japan, Korea, Australia, Czech.

SPEAKER_04

Japan. Japan.

SPEAKER_06

Pool D, you have Venezuela, Netherlands, Israel, Dominican Republic. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

Venezuela can make it interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, the DR. So it's going to be the DR, USA, Puerto Rico, Japan. Yes. For the final four.

SPEAKER_05

As it always is.

SPEAKER_06

Just so you know, I'm throwing out a sleeper here, and I'm rooting for the check.

SPEAKER_00

I remember I always root for the Netherlands. I love their hats.

SPEAKER_05

I'm a home check out of the out of the pool seat. Back when I was doing such things, I remember rooting for a certain Netherlands team. They were up a few runs against one of those juggernaut teams.

SPEAKER_01

And I man, I was like, well, we're gonna and then I wake up and we lost.

SPEAKER_05

Then the blues were like seven or eight, and I'm like, oh man, and the way you lose. You're surprised by some of the guys that make those teams. I think we can make some of those teams if we if we lived in those other countries. Like, for example, um Czech Republic. I think we can make the team.

SPEAKER_00

I think we can make Great Britain's team.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we would go facing Terek Scuble. I don't want to face Scoobyl. Sherlock Holmes.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't want to face him, but I think we could make the team, though. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think we're making the team. The Czech Republic. I saw you throw behind the plate Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00

He had a 90 exit velocity today.

SPEAKER_06

91. Yeah, 91. Guy was slow behind the dish. I had a two.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you had no gear. Two one. You said two flat. I didn't know gear. You're naked. You were naked.

SPEAKER_05

Said two flat on the last one.

SPEAKER_03

I did say two flat.

SPEAKER_00

You're right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Mind you though, you were naked. Everybody else had everybody else was dressed.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. You know what?

SPEAKER_00

I'd make you. I'm saying we're gonna make the team. All right, so we talked where we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_03

You're saying you can't make the Czech team.

SPEAKER_00

I think you can make the Aussies.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think anybody wants me. I'm not saying who wants you. I'm saying could you? I throw 72. From second base.

SPEAKER_00

What's the average outfield? Remember, you didn't believe me last? Or no, it was Jack.

SPEAKER_05

Average outfield throws between 80 and 85.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like well, Jack didn't believe me. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. Yes, it is. You know the average catcher throw with the throw down to second base? VLO? Yes. 75. Correct. 75 is 78. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

We can make it. We can make it. We can make the great Brayton team.

SPEAKER_06

I think you guys got some high hopes.

SPEAKER_00

I got too much Celsius in me.

SPEAKER_06

Chinese Taipei? We know. Chinese Taipei?

SPEAKER_00

Come on.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, I'm not. If I'm trying to make a team, I'm making the Czech team.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Hello.

SPEAKER_00

That's your sleeper, though.

SPEAKER_06

That's what I'm saying. Let's go check.

SPEAKER_00

My sleeper's not really a sleeper, but.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, but we talk world baseball classic. Let's talk MLB. Who you like going into it?

SPEAKER_00

Sleeper. O's. I don't know if so much sleeper, but O's.

SPEAKER_06

No. Forgot Alonzo was with them.

SPEAKER_00

I like the hey, the O's.

SPEAKER_05

That's a pure reason why they're not going anywhere. Really? It's terrible. He was part of that whole Mets thing. That thing's a bunch of clownery. And you're talking to a guy. This is a guy who's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00

You're talking to a college professor.

SPEAKER_05

I don't give a damn. And I'm going to the building. I don't give a damn. You're talking to a guy that watched probably 80 Mets games last year. That guy was at the core of nearly every big at bat that that team needed. He would somehow falter and fail in big moments. And it happened a ton. I watched so many Mets games, you thought I'd be a Mets fan. You know, me and Keith Hernandez, I felt like we were buddy buddy with how much we talked. And Ron Darling, that's that's how much anger I had with this team. And and he, that guy, I he did something.

SPEAKER_00

So Josh is not taking the ill.

SPEAKER_05

He did something a couple years ago. They were playing the Cardinals. And I forgot who was the um the young dude that came up with them a couple years ago, the Cardinals.

SPEAKER_00

They got a young guy every year coming up.

Rally Killers, Closers, And Bullpens

SPEAKER_05

No, no, you know who you know who I'm talking about. Um outfielder. No, no, no, not an outfielder. I think it was a shortstop. Mason.

SPEAKER_00

I got anyway.

SPEAKER_05

He got his first hit. That jackass.

SPEAKER_00

Mason win.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. That jackass knew it was his first hit, picks up that ball and chucks it into the stance.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you could cuss on the show, but I can't.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

No, that made me mad. Makes a lot of sense. That made me mad. All right. What if he didn't know? He knew. He knew. Yeah, take your O's.

SPEAKER_00

Are you friends with Mason Wynn? You get your buddy buddy?

SPEAKER_05

No, I just saw them all. It just made me mad. It was the same like Framber Valdez uh crossing. I'll put that in quotations, crossing the catcher. Like little moments, like just they I don't like you. All right. I like the O's.

SPEAKER_06

Let me ask you something.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Sox win more than 66 games.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. I the thing is with the White Sox.

SPEAKER_00

If they could start how they ended last year, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

They're young and frisky. And uh you're I'm you're hoping Colson Montgomery doesn't take a step back.

SPEAKER_00

I think we're gonna hit. It's something worried about our steps.

SPEAKER_05

It was the pitching last year. They just needed some pitching. Specifically the bullpen. But same thing with this team I'm about to talk about right now. The Oakland, well, not Oakland. The Sacramento.

SPEAKER_06

He loves Days. Yeah, they can hit.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. They can hit. Denzel Clark. Where are they from? Sacramento.

SPEAKER_06

Is that what they're listed as now?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. They're the Sacramento.

SPEAKER_00

No, they just play in Sacramento.

SPEAKER_05

They're not still Oakland.

SPEAKER_00

No, they just go by the athletics now. They're just there's nothing in front of them.

SPEAKER_05

Where are they going?

SPEAKER_00

They're going to Vegas.

SPEAKER_05

They're going to Vegas. Vegas.

unknown

Man.

SPEAKER_05

No, but they still play in a triple-A uh ballpark and the ball flies, and it suits them. They just need to pitch.

SPEAKER_00

They got some young talent. My favorite player on that? Denzel Clark.

SPEAKER_05

They're going to win the division or get an S wild card. Whoa, whoa. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Hot take there.

SPEAKER_05

Mariners are going to take a step back. Astros are the best. Mariners are taking a step back.

SPEAKER_00

Have you seen their pitching staff?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

They'll find a way to jack it up.

SPEAKER_06

They'll find a way to jack it up. To be honest with you, I think the Mariners' pitching staff's going to take some blows this year.

SPEAKER_00

Ooh, like injury blows, or you just think just performance?

SPEAKER_06

Injury blows.

SPEAKER_00

Injury's blows. They'll find a way and same thing.

SPEAKER_06

That's always been that rap for the Mets work. For that pitching staff. They stayed healthy for the most part last year, but those guys they have have always gone through injury dilemmas.

SPEAKER_05

I hear what you're saying. It's an organization that just finds the.

SPEAKER_06

I think he's still going to throw up numbers. I still don't like their center fielder. I don't think he's anything special. I like Crawford. I do.

SPEAKER_05

He's another guy that don't hustle when it doesn't have to be a good thing. Crawford? JP Crawford. A guy, again, I watch a lot of Mariner's games too. This guy don't hustle.

SPEAKER_00

This guy watches every baseball game in the world.

SPEAKER_05

You watch West Coast. All West Coast. I know. But no, and I watched the Mets because for some reason they have so many games at 11 o'clock. A ton of games at 11 o'clock. And I watched a decent amount of those. And plus, you know, 11 o'clock, it was my brother and I watching, you know, Frankie Lindore.

SPEAKER_00

So who's your national league team? You said the A's for the American. Um doesn't have to be World Series winner, it could be a sleeper or just look out, whatever.

SPEAKER_05

I think uh the well, I think the Phillies are gonna be good. And um, well, it's a typical answer. But in terms of a sleep, well, terms of a sleeper team, um don't be surprised on the San Francisco Giants and the way they kind of come in.

SPEAKER_00

I'm a little excited for that this year.

SPEAKER_06

San Francisco Giants have Raphael Devers. There'll never be anything with that dude.

SPEAKER_05

So same thing with my Pete Alonso comment. Bingo. Okay, alright. I can see that.

SPEAKER_02

All right.

SPEAKER_06

It is wild if you look at the Red Sox from last year, who had Devers, brought in Bregman, right? There was big controversy. They trade Devers and then lose Bregman.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it doesn't look good.

SPEAKER_06

But they I like the Red Sox team, though. Watch out for Roman Anthony.

SPEAKER_05

I like the Red Sox. But another team that is not getting any respect again, they have probably the best bullpen in the National League. And we don't talk that on the show, but you know, if you want to, you know, get some money. Um there's some outrageous odds in terms of uh San Diego Padre.

SPEAKER_00

I was just gonna wait, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Outrageous odds for them to win that division. And outrageous odds. Uh someone thinks that the Dodgers are gonna win 105 games.

SPEAKER_00

Padres would go out the pen last year, too.

SPEAKER_05

105 games. That's crazy. No, they're not.

SPEAKER_00

You don't think the Dodgers are winning a buckle five?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_05

Injuries. And again, uh just not. It's crazy. This is baseball. This is not the NBA, this is not the NFL, this is baseball. It's 162, and you just had that run, and they can't stay healthy either.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I can I could I can see that.

SPEAKER_06

So you know who I hope stays healthy this year? Mike Trout. Yeah, for all of us.

SPEAKER_04

I love Mike Trout. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Mike Trout is like uh the Charles Barclay of the MLB.

SPEAKER_04

Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good cop.

SPEAKER_00

You know, dog. Dog. MVP's, you know, great player, just no postseason stuff.

SPEAKER_06

Not with that organization. Nah.

SPEAKER_05

And then uh last thing that I'll say on this, um, the Cubs being picked as the favorite to win that division's also stupid as well. You still can't beat that team from up north.

SPEAKER_00

Uh the brew crew? Whoo, whoo, brew crew, let's go. Dude, there's something about dome teams.

SPEAKER_06

It's not a dome. It opens.

SPEAKER_04

There's something about teams with roofs.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. It's retractable. There's something about teams with roofs. All right. They're just good. Like the twins are still they're good still now, but when they were playing in that dome, something about it. You know? All right.

SPEAKER_05

But thank you, Marco. Thank you for coming on.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for having me. Marco, always a pleasure. I I loved it. My voice is gone. Your voice is gone.

SPEAKER_05

I'll carry us into the wind. Thank you all for listening to another episode of the Good Man Show. There'll be another one this upcoming week because I'll be flying the friendly skies to a place that supposedly has beaches. We'll see if they have beaches. Go to Daytona. There's beaches. Apparently I'm an island. I'm on an island. But thank you for listening. And I want you to go about your day tomorrow. Go get a workout in. Go make yourself a good salmon. Apparently it's on sale at Jewel.

SPEAKER_00

Don't go to Aldi.

SPEAKER_05

Don't go. Well, I love Aldi. Shout out to my guy Sam Abasi, my favorite.

SPEAKER_00

I love Aldi too, but I don't know which Aldi you're going to. That's so priced up. Well, apparently it all changes with the wind. Because all we are is dust in the wind.

SPEAKER_05

Dust in the wind. Who sings that?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I think.

SPEAKER_05

Hold up, hold up, hold up. Um, they sing also the winds of change. Oh, no, it's the scorpions. Scorpions. Yes. I got it.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

Facilities, Morton Pride, And Respect

SPEAKER_05

No, it is the scorpions. 100% is the scorpions. Dust in the wind. I'm thinking of a different dust in Dustin the Wind. I don't know, maybe. Hold up here as I I need to confirm this. Kansas, sorry. Man, I'm jacking up my references. But I wish you all a good night. We're gonna actually do another episode tomorrow. It should be out over the weekend. Just uh fulfill your cravings for us. We love you. We appreciate you. Marco, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, guys.

SPEAKER_06

Quick note. Yes? There might be a very, very special guest tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00

Hey.

SPEAKER_06

On the next episode, you might get us real special guests.

SPEAKER_00

Make sure you listen in.

SPEAKER_06

Tune in. Thanks for listening. Hopefully, my voice is back for y'all, but we appreciate you guys. Bruce Sauce, Lord Puck out. Good night, Marco.

SPEAKER_00

Good night.