Worrying signs for the Dragons already - League 365 Podcast EP14

Shout out to the Newtown Jets for letting us come down on Sunday arvo to Henson Park to film some content and chat to the fans, a special thanks to Jesse Colquhoun, Peter Mamouzelos and Josh Shuster for having a chat to us. 

This week we break down Pre-season week two and also give our thoughts on the new origin edibility. Tune in next week for Vegas breakdown!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to League 365 Pod. We're up to episode 14 of this great podcast and I'm joined as I am every week by my fellow host, Jacko. How are you brother? Good, how are you going? Nice and fresh from our one location at Hanson Park on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Yeah, yeah, good day. Got a free hat out of it, so can't complain.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Oh you got a jet cat. I got it on, I didn't even notice. So, guys, if you haven't seen it, we were at Hanson Park on Sunday. Um we've posted a lot of clips on Instagram. Shout out to everyone that come and chatted to us. There was plenty of interviews. Um we had a chat to a couple of NRL players, which was Peter Mamazulos and Jesse Cole Hoon, so jump on and have a look at them. And Josh Schuster, actually, uh, who very rarely does anything media wise, jumped on and answered a question with me. So and I'll tell you one thing about Josh Shuster. He was looking fit. Oh fit. I don't know what his plans are, uh Josh Schuster, but wow. He was looking lean, wasn't he? Wow, he was looking lean. He looks like he uh could play six comfortably with the condition he was in. Yeah, but um mate, really big shout out to Josh for for having a chat to us and and to Pete and to uh uh Jesse. Um it was really good of you guys, and um to all the fans that jumped on with us too. It was it was a good laugh and heaps of fun and and uh yeah, we're we're hopeful we'll do it again. And yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

We're doing a magic round later in the year, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Oh yeah, we're going to Magic Round. So that'll be massive up there. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And thanks to Stu McCarthy, CEO of Newtown, for letting us do that. And um yeah, everything you've done, Stu, we appreciate it. So all right, let's get into uh just before we get into the news, um, we are sponsored by Bearbet, uh the good guys at Bearbet down there. Um if you like, I'd notice their rugby league markets are all up for Vegas and the first week of the NRL. Um so make sure you check that out, guys. I remember Gamble responsibly, and we've got the new shirts on too with the uh our potty on and and and the Bearbet shirt, so looking pretty good. So looking sharp. Alright. NRL news, guys. We're gonna start with some NRL news, and the biggest one this week, we didn't do an episode last week because we had Stu on. Um but the biggest news this week, Jacks, is origin eligibility. Yeah. What did you make of all this, mate?

SPEAKER_02 2:09

Yeah, um I don't have a problem with it to be honest. Um the guys that can that can play, most of them been in New Swales or Queensland since they were teenagers or even um even earlier. So like like the Samoan and Tongan boys, if if you want to represent your heritage and your and your family and you still uh grew up and played footy in New Swales and lived in wherever, Western Sydney or in the country, I can't see why you can't do both personally. So I don't have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Yep. Okay, so there's seven there's a list of seven players, and I'm just gonna drag them seven players up uh when I can find it. Here they are, here, and we'll go through each one of them and talk about will they make the side uh and what kind of damage they'll do if they are there. Yep. And we're gonna start with the Sharks enforcer Adam Fanua Blake. Um I'll quickly start with Adam Fanua Blake. I fear for Queensland, if they're rolling out Adam Fanur Blake and Payne Haas as their starting props, and Spencer Leniew coming off the bench, that is scary. Yeah, it's a good forward. And I will say this: I am a Sharks man, but he walks into that New South Wales side. Oh, yeah, walks into the New South Wales side.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

He's in front of um definitely Max King and Stefano to Kamanu, who were there last year, and probably Barnett as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Um he definitely he will walk straight into that side for mine. And it's a scary thought.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Yeah, for Queensland, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

Scary thought.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

So good luck to Lindsey Collins.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Yeah, well, they really on this list there's no forwards that they they they get any help. Well, there is one, which we're gonna talk about next. Um, but who were their props last year off the top? Like Reuben Cotters played prop for them.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Yeah. Uh Waltino.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Tino, yeah. Lindsay Collins. Well, Tino's just got to handle two of them now. He used to have to take Payne Hass on, now he's got to take Adam Fanilla Blake on as well. Wow, scary. I know one thing if Blake Brayley plays nine, he will be licking his lips. Well, yeah, off the playing off the back of them. Yeah, definitely. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Anyone in that like New South's butchered the series last year, but like how many times do we say it though?

SPEAKER_01 4:15

All the time. New South Wales butcher the series. Unbelievable. Maybe it's time to pick Mitch at seven. Maybe, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

No, I don't think they'd be.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Nathan needs to. Geez, I'd be tempted. I'd be tempted.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Nathan's still the halfback.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Okay, our second player on the list is another shark, and to me, walks straight into the Queensland side is Brit Nakora. What do you make of Brit Nakora?

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Yeah, I I agree. He probably gets a back role spot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's Nanoy, there's um Kate Well, these are the blokes they're picking.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

To me, he he he's clearly ahead of all them. So to me, he he he's fit. He walks in to the Queensland side as well. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, can't disagree. It's hard to argue. Okay, let's move on to one of your men, the Roosters. Now we didn't set this up with all Chooks and Ro uh sharks, but uh we do get to another a few others later. Victor Radley. Yeah. Now, Victor Radley to me was ready for origin three or four years ago. Now I don't know if he can get into the side.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

No, there's no chance he gets into the side.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Well he could because injuries play a part, suspensions play a part. So for me, if you're picking Cameron Murray and Isaiah, yo, there's no other spot for Victor Radley. Um but if one of them goes down or one of them's suspended, is he the next in line or is he still a a little bit down the pecking order?

SPEAKER_02 5:31

I think he's still a little bit down the pecking order.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

The only reason I think they'll be hard to get into that side.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Yeah, Loz has got the clipboard again, hasn't he? Yeah. Your mate? Yeah, yeah. Well Los might look at him and go, just because the way he plays, maybe you want someone like that in there?

SPEAKER_02 5:47

Um maybe He would be good for origin, but I don't think he'll get into that side. Like you look at that bench, he's gonna be hard to get onto. Like you got Hudson Young and you got Connor Watson's the incumbent, Barnett, um Utoikamanu.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah, I I I I I I think there's some players that for mine either start or then on the side. I think Victor's in that category. I think you either want Victor starting, or I don't think he's a bench player. This the way he's gonna.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

There's only if there's an injury, you know, like um, so it's probably a shame because I think he was on the verge three or four years ago, and he might have missed the boat. But I agree. Strange things happen. Yeah. So the next one actually um is a bloke that's already played Origin is AJ Brimson. Um he's always a chance of making the site.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Off the bench?

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Off the bench. Yeah, yeah. Is it just because he's got the versatility factor? Yeah, that's it. So and Ben Hunt's about to probably pull up stumps. I don't know if he's going around in Origin this year. I can't remember him saying he wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

I don't think he said he wasn't, no.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

So um AJ definitely is an option. So one question I have got, and I haven't checked this, I've just thought about it. Is it a six-man bench for Origin?

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Like I'd say it would be.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

We need to check on that because I've never even thought of that.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

I think it is a six man bench as well. Really? Have you heard that? Or you just I heard it on someone else's podcast, maybe a Nasta or and Rennie Matura.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Okay, so that changes things, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

That opens a few more jerseys, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Yeah, but it like officially they'll get their will they get their debut unless they get on the field?

SPEAKER_01 7:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

Even if they don't play.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Josh Reynolds did. He he didn't get on. And he that first year he was seventeen, never got on. They still get their cash.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Yeah, but they don't they uh officially don't get chalk it up as a a taboo game, do they? Well they don't in first grade.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

So if they don't get on.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

I thought that was the uh the the the case.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

I don't know. It's actually a good question. See if anyone out there knows the answer to that. If you're named in the 17 and you don't get the first game and you don't actually get on the field, does it go down as a a game?

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Yeah, I don't think it does. It does. But I might be wrong.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. We'll check it up during the week, but if anyone knows, uh pop it in the comments, guys, and let us know. Okay, let's move on. Now the next one is a really interesting one. It's Jason Tamalolo. Yeah. Tomalolo. No chance.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

No chance.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Is he a Queenslander?

unknown 8:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

No chance still.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Really?

SPEAKER_02 8:16

His best footy is way past him. He was a great, great player, but he's best footies way past him. He's not getting in front of Tino, he's not getting in front of Lindsey Collins either, for mine. And I'm no rap on Lindsey Collins. Yeah. He's not better than Ruben Cotter now.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Dunno. I wouldn't write him off, to be honest, of getting a a start. I thought he was actually pretty good last year. I thought the years before, the year or two before he struggled, but I thought actually he played pretty well last year. Yeah. But no, I'd probably agree if I if I was gonna have a bet on it, I'd probably say no.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Yeah. Like Corey Spurs a b a better option.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

You reckon? No, not for me. Like lead me out of Corey Horsburg. I wouldn't be picking him, but I'd be picking Tomalolo. I don't know. I just think he might raise he might raise to the challenge.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Even Papa Lee back last year was I'd have him before Tomalolo. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Well, but that'll be an interesting one to watch because he might be a wild card for them that they can throw into the throw in, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Well well, Papa Lee came from nowhere last year. He looked cooked. He looked cooked and and not cooked as a player, but he he actually retired from Origin. Yeah. And they made the call, so wouldn't surprise me. Um, but see what happens there. Jeremy Marshall King is the next one. He looks millions. Yeah, yeah. He's a quite well I'm chipping his acquaintances.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Or he's in New South Wales.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Um well, all I remember he was playing his juniors at the Tigers.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

He can't be Queensland.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

No, well Benji. Yeah. Benji was here most of his life, I think. So I'm thinking he's new. Well, he's me well, he's means. Yeah, he's so we can even not even talk about him. He's not even. Now the next one's an interesting one because he's probably the up and coming one, and it's Casey McLean. Now he's probably this eligibility rule has come in right at the right time for Casey McLean. Um for mine, big chance, he is a superstar in waiting. Like he's a chance. Maybe not this. It won't be this year. But he's won't play origin. Yeah, um, but he has got origin written all over here.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

100% he plays for the Blues at some stage in his country. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

So this eligible look, I wouldn't be surprised if he's there in the next three years, to be honest. Like, well, Stephen Crichton's got the right centre position wrapped up for probably the next half a dozen years, if not more. Yeah. Because Stephen Crichton's still only like 25 or something. Like it's pretty ludicrous. Yeah. Latrell's usually the left centre if if he's ready and fit and all that kind of stuff, but you know, what what's Latrell now? He must be 28, 29. He's 28, I think. You know, like, but he's he'd have to be close to the next in that next bracket of players behind them too. Yeah. You know, for mine, like with probably off the top of my head, Bronson Sherry's probably in that bracket. Bradman best is in the street. Bradman best is in that bracket. I think yeah. So Turbo, so they're all in that bracket under them two centres, but he's definitely nipping at the heels for mine.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Yeah, definitely. I agree. I think he's a super player.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Yeah. So they're the seven players that um this eligibility rule has uh helped, I suppose you can put it that way. The other one is Jerome Hughes. Um, but I noticed today Jerome's come out and declared that he will not play Origin. It's a big call.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Yeah, yeah. Uh good on him for coming out and saying that he'd basically, if he did it, it'd be a cash grab for him because he doesn't like the city. Yeah, he hasn't got the five years. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, so good on him for coming out and I I haven't heard from Britain. Um well Adam Fanur Blake came out very straight away and said, I I I want to be a blue. Yeah. He's come out. And it wouldn't be a cash grab for him. You could just tell the way the way he said it, way he I there was a little video of Riccio with him in the chest. And you could just see it. It was just like, yeah, okay. So I've got no problem with Adam Fanel Blake playing for the blues for mine, because I think he came here when he was five, I'm pretty sure. He played in Queensland and then came down and played for Kenzo? No, it wasn't Kenzo, Mascot, I think. So that's where he kind of played his junior footy when he was like six, seven, eight. So I got no issue with him. No, there's no problem with that at all. I've got no issue with him whatsoever. Now, Britton, haven't heard from Britton, so don't know what he's thinking. Um if he's gonna make himself a bow, I'll be surprised if he doesn't, because he was here at a very young age, Britt Nakora, like he was here when he was four or something, so I can't and played all his junior footy here, so I can't see why he wouldn't put his hand up. So um, yeah, so anything else on that, Jax, on the origin stuff?

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Nah, except probably some of the purest of the game aren't kind of like it, but I don't have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah, there's a few already. I think Mel come out and was not happy. Yeah. But he's probably thinking they're gonna roll out AFB and paint us.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

You're probably I I'm tipping if it was the tables were turned, he mightn't have been saying too much. Yeah, maybe not. Yeah, so. Okay, so the trials that went through the weekend now. I didn't get much chance to see all of them just because we're at out all day on Sunday at Henson. Um I did see a little bit of a few of the trials. I did see the indigenous game. What did you make of what you saw of the trials?

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Well, the one that stands out was how bad the dragons were. Yeah, well. I actually watched that game.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Yeah, let's go to the dragons.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Let's we let's that was that was bad. That's bad. That's really bad. Yeah. To lose to it that south side when dragons were virtually full strength. Yeah. And Matt Matt Dufty fucking tore them up.

unknown 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Matt Dufty was good. Matt Dufte was good against them, like he was one of their only NRL players in that south side. I think Peter Marmazulas played. They lost the halfback Jonah Glover in the first five minutes or broken Jordan. Um Bennett wasn't even Bennett was in the stands with the with the players. He took the night off and he was he was in joiner. Yeah. Hornby, I think, coached them. But back to Dragons, like Atkinson and and Flanagan. Like, it's diabolical, really. Like, I know they like Atkinson didn't play much last year, and I think people are forgetting that he played first grade in a really good shark side, but he was no world beater when he was playing. You know what I mean? No, no, look, look, um there I I thought they'd be a bit better than what people thought, but after last week I think they're in a world of pain.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Yeah, okay. Um the the thing with Daniel Atkinson is like he's never played seven in his life either. And it's not like you're plonking him in there with someone that's just a gun six. You know what I mean? You've got Koff Lenning in there with their attack is there's huge problems.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

Oh, massive problems.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Massive problems. Now, I'm not going to defend them, but there is one thing I will say to give Dragon supporters some hope. If I'm in that dragon side and I'm flying out to Vegas the following weekend, I'm going into that game and they will tell you that they don't think of this, it is bullshit that they don't think of it. I'm thinking I do not want to get hurt, I do not want to get suspended because I want to be on that plane to Vegas, right? And they can say it to their blue in the face it doesn't play a part. Of course it fucking plays a part. There is no way you're running on that field with that in the back of your mind. And leading into the game, no excuse. I'm not making an excuse for them. The performance was horrific. Um, but let's let let's have another look at them.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

No, there's no but there's let's have another look at them. You you told me a few weeks ago that you'd be tipping the dragons against Canterbury. And I am. They are zero chance of beating Canberry Canterbury, none. Zilch. Zero. No chance of beating Canterbury.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Okay, alright, okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

And while we're on Canterbury, they were good. I thought they were good on they play Saturday, yeah. Yeah. And what again, another side that I thought maybe do a bit better, but Newcastle, they're they're warning signs at Newcastle already as well. How can you not score a point in a trial? With you you had Sandon Smith was out there, Dylan Brown was out there, Fletcher Sharp was there. How do you not get a point? How do you not get over the try line? The intensity of a trial is nowhere near the standards of an NRL game. You couldn't get one try.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Yeah. That's concerning. It is a concern.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Um and other one that stood out for me, Reed Marnie, uh, first half for Cowboys on the Thursday night. Yeah. Outstanding, I thought. I think he plugged into that system really well. Uh he had a few uh good touches. And um, yeah, I thought he I thought he went really good up there.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

So you don't like my cowboys for the spoon tip after seeing Reed Marny?

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Not after I've seen a few of the other sides. Yeah. Zero no chance.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

As I said to you though, like the Cowboys when I tipped them to get the spoon, I'm sticking to it. Yeah. But it's a I wasn't gonna sit here and go dragons or night, because everyone's gonna say that's it.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

I'll give you the I'll give you a pass on that if they finish bottom four.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Well, I think you get a pass when you pick it's the same with you. If Manley finish bottom four or five, you get a you think, well, it's not a bit you know, they went awful. Yeah. And um, but you know, if you pick the dragons or the like anyone can do that. Yeah. Anyone can pick them size.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

And the last takeaway from my um from what I saw from the trials, Macassini from Tigers. Yep, uh, he's gonna be a super player as well.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Um, and that try that that winger scored, unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Well, that was um he like went round the fucking corner post.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

That was unbelievable. Wow. I don't I don't know his name, but the Islander fella that scored that try, that was one of the best trials I've ever seen. It was unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Unbelievable he got it down. It was it was, it was like he went round the post, and yeah I I know I think it was better than Xavier Coach's one. Definitely, yeah. It was frightening.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Mac Accini got, I think, a first half hat-trick, so I'd be getting him in that tiger side this year.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Yep. Um there was one thing I took out of it, and there's a side that I watched and I thought, ooh, I saw a big difference in them, and it was the Titans. And it was blokes like Mo Fodder Waker and stuff like that. I saw a big difference in them. Didn't they play the Canberra? Can it was a terrible Canberra side, but I was just watching more. I I I take nothing out of Trolls. I don't watch I watch individual performances, and I just saw a different side of Mo Fod Awaker. He was the one I really picked that I thought, ooh, and he's had an effect on this bloke, and he might have been just throwing a rocket up him. Yeah. Because he has had some off years, like Mo Foto Waker. He hasn't played good for probably two years. Yeah, yeah. You know, but when I watched him the other night, I saw the old Mo Fot Awaker, and and they they Cranullah, round one, Cranullah play them.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

I'm tipping Gold Coast.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I'm telling you, round one, Cranullah play them, and I looked at Bear Bet's uh market um before I come on the show to have a look at what price they were. I tell you what, Cronulla need to be very, very wary of this Gold Coast side because I'm tipping the upset that game. I I I think Josh Hannay may have a bigger effect on that side than anyone's imagining. And I just saw it in in little a couple of the players, and I just watched them and I just thought, ooh, okay. Yeah, if there is a a smokey that could really shoot up this ladder, maybe it's them. And on it's only on one performance, but I just and it wasn't just the overall performance, it was just some individuals, and I just saw a difference in a couple of them. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see how they start the season, because I reckon they'll be coming down here.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

And this week, uh even more interesting this week, trials nearly most sides have got a full strength side. Probably pay 40 minutes, but uh this week will be interesting to see uh a lot of the players that haven't had a hit out yet.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yep, yep. Okay, let's move on to the injury just an injury news. The next one is this injury to Leo Thompson. Um I think they posted he's gonna miss ten weeks. I'm hearing more six to eight. This is an interesting one, Jake. What do you mean? Hey?

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Less weeks. You're hearing he's gonna get six. Six to eight weeks he'll miss. You said more. Oh, did I? Yeah. Oh, sorry, sorry. Just to clarify. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Um yeah, so I'm hearing six to eight weeks. Um the interesting thing here, a couple of weeks on this pod, I don't know if you remember it. I said that there was a whisper around that Leo Thompson had an injury. Do you remember me saying this? Um a few weeks on the pod, and there was a couple of fans that mentioned it on somewhere on Instagram or somewhere I saw it, and I just brought it up on the pod. And Gus Gould came out straight away and and shut it down. Said there's no injury. I'm just wondering if this is very coincidental or that male a few weeks ago was right that he had the injury. I I I don't know, but all I know I've always said they were two to three props short, they got one, now they're back to none for the first two months of the competition. The only advantage they have, they always start well. They start the season well because they come out them little blokes fast, fit, and it seems to work for a while, so saving grace maybe. Yeah. But wow, it's a hole.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

Yeah, it's a big loss because he then doesn't fit in back into round ten and um, you know, they've they've probably it would have been nice to have a new recruit hit out come round one. He also misses Vegas, I bet he's spewing about that. Yeah. Um but I think dogs will be sweet. I know you you didn't have them in your eight.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Not in my age.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

I think dogs will be sweet.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Did you have them in your eight?

SPEAKER_02 20:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

I think they're I think they're probably a definite top eight side.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Yeah. One thing um too with props and calves injuries, it's probably not uh as it's it's it's worse in a way because when you've got a leg injury, you can't really train fitness training, and where props can blow out a bit. So sometimes when they recover, it does take them a little bit longer to get their fitness back and that. So I heard six to eight weeks, maybe they're saying ten because of that reason. Yeah. Like because he's not you you can do weights and you can do all that, but you can't do any running, there's a lot you can't do, you know. So he may lose a lot of condition, considering he hasn't it's not like in the season and he's done it in the season, it's been a pre-season, so I'm kind of thinking that it may end up being two to two and a half months.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

I'd be moving um Satilli Tupunua into the middle.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yeah, yeah. I think he's in for a big year. You can see well, yeah, you could see it at the back end of last year. And you could see Satilli Tupanua having Keon Coloman and what's his name? Keon Colombant. Kind of similar thing moving him into the middle, what it did for him.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Yeah, different body shape, but different body.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

He's a bit leaner, yeah. Um but he's still aggressive and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

And think about a big shot on as well.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Yeah, and think about the props they've had. Like I think you get away with it.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

So um So that is a big blow for the dogs. Um didn't affect the market, which surprised me.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

I thought 'cause they're playing the Dragons. You potted them off on performance. I've seen enough. That performance was enough. I think we have said it all off season. There is no chance. Yeah that no chance at Canterbury aren't gonna beat Dragons Round One. No chance.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Did you see its JC's take on it? Is it it's JC the Instagram? JC, yeah, yeah. Is it J C? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

He's in for a long year at all.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

He's poor J. You're kind of half of the they do have a bad year because it's entertaining watching his vids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

He needs he needs him to go bad or else what he's not gonna be about. He'll lose all his followers. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Yeah, he'll I don't know what he'll do when they start making him winning. Yeah, yeah. But um it's hard to argue with him, I'll be honest. I agree with everything he says. Yeah, so um shout out, mate, too. Um okay, next one is this is just a quick one from the other week. Adam Reynolds retiring from Brisbane, so they're gonna lose Payne Huss and Adam Reynolds uh come the end of uh 2026. Big hole.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

Yeah, a bit of a transition period for him um after that year. But they're in a good position to do it. They'll get Jonah Pezett goes up there. They've got Ezra still there. Could have it could be worse. You could they could have had no one coming through. They've got two that'll uh go straight in.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Talking about Jonah Pesar, did you watch his performance the other night? No, I missed that. Very ordinary, very ordinary. But I it's probably the most I'm looking forward to because everyone's saying about the Peasant Moses combination is great and all this, and I disagree. So it's gonna be interesting to watch it how it how they actually combined, and if he's taken too much ball off Mitch or Mitch has taken all the ball and peasant's really just there kicking, and it's gonna be interesting to see how that gels.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

We'll see our first uh chance of it this weekend.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Yeah, so um that's basically all the NRL news I have written down. Uh we might slide into some um rumours and signings, and the first two we got on that have just broken the last couple of days Siphotalakai and Toby Rudolph. Sipha Talakai is open to go into Perth, and Toby Rudolph has basically said, I am going to PNG. He's basically come out and said it. Yeah. That he wants another year at the Sharks, and then he wants to look after his family. And he said that all he does uh while he's at Cronulla is wakes up in the morning and texts all the team to ask who wants to go for a coffee. And he said, In a compound over there, how good is it? They can't get away from me. Is that what he said? He said no one responds, they'll offer him all a coffee, and he goes, in a compound, well, they're not gonna be able to get away from me. So he's basically come out and said, Yeah, he'll go to PNG. Yeah, right. And it's it basically um for uh to look yeah, lock down his future, basically.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Yeah, no, I think it's a smart choice, personally. Um because he'll get paid tax-free money, I think. So he's gonna get overs because he won't be paying tax on whatever salary he's on. Like he's not a prem a premier premier prop for mine. Yeah. Like he's a like mid-range prop approach.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

What would you say four to five hundred?

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Oh yeah, yeah, ma yeah, five hundred max.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

You've got to think cap going up all the time and and value for props does kind of go up. So I'd say four to five. So you're getting that tax-free. He signs a three-year deal, pretty good coin. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Especially when most, like I'm sure accommodation and all that stuff will probably be looked after for him as well over there.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, um, and the other one was Siphitalikai to Perth. He's come out basically, he's open to going. Um, I'll be shattered if Cronulla let him go. You know what? He's been so good for Cronulla. Like, he doesn't get the wraps, he's very underrated, Siphitalikai, and uh he'd be a big loss to Cronulla. Like, but it'd be good get for for Perth.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yeah. Another one of these bikes that are just first graders that are going out. They're not a bit more.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

He's not elite, but he he is a better sign. He's not elite. No, I said he's not elite. Yeah, yeah. I said he's not elite, but he's a better sign, he's a better player than your me and his Avarillos and all that. He's an upgrade from them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a step above them.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Yeah, just really he's in the next tier. He played origin, yeah. Yeah, no, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

You can't put him in that tier, Siphatalakai. But he's saying that he'd be have to be 30, Sifitalakai. Yeah, as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

He had that really one good year where he played center and he was tearing everyone to shreds.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

I look, I follow him closely, as you know, mate. He's been good for Crenella for four or five years. Very good. Every year, very good. No matter what they do with him, he's very good.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

So um You do love your Sharkies there.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Yeah, I'd find people wouldn't argue that point. Yeah. I'd be surprised if anyone gets on the and would.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

He's hand he's more than he's definitely handy down. He's a he's he's but again, and if we're hanging our hats on the wrong.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

No, no, no, no, I'm not talking I'm talking more about the loss for Cronulla. Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking it's a big loss because he fills plugs holes, mate. He's the perfect bench player. He comes on, changes momentum. Yeah, yeah, no, he is one of them blokes. You can play him in the middle, you can play him on an edge, you can play him in the centres. Yeah. Like you can't find many that can do it, you know. And um, yeah, no, it's close to the line, he's a wrecking ball. Yeah. So um, but look, it looks like the clean out is on at the Sharks by the look of it after this year. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, um, what else have we got? Oh, the the thing that dropped today, I saw Dave Rico talk about the the home ground semis, and Cornella and Manley look like they've lost their home ground. What are you grinning at me for? Because you totally love this, don't you? I like it too. And and you'll be surprised, but you go first. So basically, guys, it looks like the penning Shark Park or Ocean Protect Stadium and Brookvale. What's Brookvale? Lotto Land. No, it can't be Lotto Land. It's not Lotto Lotto land. What is it?

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Four Pines.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Lotto land. Fucking Lotto land. Four pines park, and uh Shark Park will be cooked for finals footy. Um good. Your take, your take, mate, on this.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

It's about time. I've never been a brookie, but I went to a finals game at Shark Park a couple of years ago, and it's it's it's dud. It's it's garbage, really. For a fine like regular season, like mad, it's good. But for a finals game, that stadium's garbage.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Like, seriously.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

The facilities aren't great. Yeah. You can only get what 15,000 in there now.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Yeah, that's if they're hanging over the top of the back fence.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Like public transport access for everyone else that doesn't live in the Shire is not great.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Oh, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Parking's not great.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Parking's not good.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

Yeah, so nah. Senator Alliance.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Yeah. Okay, so my take on this being a shark supporter, I'm actually one of the odd ones out. I don't like it either. I d I don't like it. I don't think they should play there. And I've said this for the last four or five years, they shouldn't be there. Um but but they can't be forced if they finish let's just go for shits and giggles, they finish first on the ladder and the roosters finish fourth, they should not be taking that game to Allianz. That's all that's that's it. It's not it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. That can't happen. So they can't force them to play at Allianz, right? So what I'm saying, even if it's fifth, V, eight, sixth, if they finish above the team they're playing, they cannot be forced to play Roosters at Allianz, South or the Bulldogs at A and Z, or Parramatta at Paramatta Stadium. It can't happen.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Yeah, they the the it should be Cornella or Manley should have the choice.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

They should have the choice where to take it. If they decide they want to take it there, take it there. But I'm chipping they won't. But if they end up playing the Cowboys or Brisbane, oh damn right, take it to Allions. But if they're playing a side that is that is their home ground, nah. Can't have that. That's not on. They can't put force force that, that Cornalo are gonna play uh their home game at their home final game at at Allianz. Could you imagine this? Imagine if Cornalo finished fifth and they finish on 38 points, Roosters slide into eighth on twenty-seven or twenty-nine, and then they get to play a home semi.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

I I think it'd be pretty good. No, no, it'd be shit. Yeah. Yeah, there it needs to be up to the clubs to be able to say, uh, we want to take this one to um para or ANZ probably para. I think just use Para and Alliance for the finals for those. Keep talking, I've got a bug in my throat. Yeah, right. Um yeah. But I think it's about time. We're trying to everything Villandi's and uh they do, they're trying to make the game more professional and having a finals game at a park that fits 15,000 max.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Is we're past that. Yeah, I agree. As a game. 100% agree. And yeah, I like I'm new school with it as well. Like, I think like we can't be playing at a park footy ground, uh uh uh glossed up park footy ground for a final.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Like it and I'm I'm I'm the the thing too though, I think when they make the decision it's final, like they finalise the decision. They can't go, okay, the they're playing the Cowboys, probably won't get more than 14,000 anyway. They might as well play it there. No. Make the decision and that's it. It's final. Yeah, definitely. Make it it's final. That's it. So okay, so we've got some fans questions. Let's go into the are we right for fans questions, Jax? Yep, yep. Yep, okay. Have you got any there that you can uh start us off with? I've got one.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

Yeah, go.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Okay, I've got the great Peter Beaman. How are you, Pete? Um sorry we didn't put a pot out last week for you, but it's out here this week. And did you help Pete join the uh tipping comp? Yeah, Pete's in. Pete's in the tipping comp. Don't forget the tipping comp, guys. Free shot at 250. Uh, we're gonna put it all on the social media stuff again this week. Remember, you're running out of time to get into the tipping comp. It's 250 to the winner, winner takes all, and there'll be a weekly prize. I can't update you with that just yet, but it'll have something to do with our sponsor who will be putting something on the line each week for the best tipster of the week. Um, so make sure you check out our socials. We might even put it in the comment section of today's show underneath the code and how you join and all that. So yeah, so um, I know a few of the boys we interviewed at Hansen on Sunday wanted to join. So make sure you get in, boys, and tell your mates, get them in. Um okay, so back to Peter Beaman. Did Andrew Abdo report the quote, put pressure on parameter message from Melbourne officials to the NRL integrity unit? So if you didn't hear this, um there was a was it a phone call or an email?

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Email.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Email that went from Melbourne um to the integrity unit, correct?

SPEAKER_02 32:34

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

No. It went to the NRL did it. You sure?

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Yeah, it went to Andrew Abdo personally.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

It went to Abdo Oh, okay, sorry. Got it. Yep, so it went to Andrew Abdo saying put pressure on Parramatta to get this Zach Lomax to Melbourne deal done.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

In summary, yes, that's what it said.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Okay. So what do you make of this, mate?

SPEAKER_02 32:54

That's awful. If that's true, then that's that's terrible from Melbourne. Terrible from Matt Tripp and I think it was Matt Tripp who sent the email. It's it needs to there needs to be repercussions for that. You can't be telling the boss the NRL to go put pressure on another team to get your signing over line.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Who are in the right?

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

They're in the right.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

There needs to be a sanction for Matt Tripp. Or a fine, a big fine. You can't be doing that.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Yeah Yeah. I can't stand this. They're gonna get him. They're gonna get him. Typical Melbourne. They're gonna get him. You can say what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Typical shifty Melbourne as always, mate.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Yeah, they're gonna get him.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

They love Melbourne love to um pull the wool over people's eyes and toe the line. People might be calling me biased, well, like rich coming from a Roosters fan, but I can't stand Melbourne, mate.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah. Yeah, it it's it's pretty poor. Um actually yeah, it's it's it's worse than pretty poor. It's diabolical, really.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Like what like that poor Eels boat that we spoke to on the weekend said that you know, Melbourne have taken enough from Para Eels fans. He he still remembers 2009. Yeah, yeah, that was funny, actually, that mate. So like I yeah, I feel for para fans and Melbourne are just scumbags, mate, really, when it comes to the NRL.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Yeah, but th they're gonna get him, aren't they? It looks that way. Yeah, they're gonna get him. Yeah. I I'd be filthy if I'm para. Yeah. So I I wish he'd sit out. I'm I I'd hope they make him sit out the whole year. Yeah. I I I think that's where it should end. But I just you can just see him round two running out for Melbourne, you can just see it already. Yeah. So um, yeah, so we agree, Pete, mate. Absolutely absolutely disgraceful. That's bad. Absolutely disgraceful. Imagine if the Tigers had done it. It'd be absolutely everywhere. Yeah. If their board had done something different. Yeah, 100%. Yep. Yeah. Okay, let's move on to our old mate Benny from Bradbury. He's flying, Benny from Bradbury. He's at surface with the wife and kids for the next couple of weeks. So, uh, okay, what's he got for us? Gold Coast. What uh really surprised me up here is the lack of Gold Coast Titans advertising and the large amount of Gold Coast Suns advertising. There are plenty of digital billboards up here, and every second billboard on the Gold Coast has stuff about the Suns. I haven't seen one thing regarding the Titans. The Gold Coast is a huge place to keep existing fans and even harder to get new fans on board. The new part owners, Maddie Johns and Gordy Tallis, uh, should be changing things quickly. Okay. Benny loves a long question.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Yeah. Uh that this one's easy. It's because the Titans are awful and the Suns are flying. They go I don't watch AFL. I can't stand AFL. They made the finals last year and I think their third favourite to win it this year. Really? Yeah. So the Suns uh they're going good up there. And the Titans are everyone knows what they're gonna get from the Titans, they're gonna get disappointment. Um so that's probably why the the fans up there are jumped on jumped on the Suns. You support a winning team.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Yeah. That's why the Titans need to win, don't they? It's the only way out. They just need to win. So I like Benny's right, I'd probably need to change it, but I think they need to change what happens on the field more importantly. Because I think that winning, as you just said, winning changes everything. Changes everything. That's right. And um, so Gold Coast fans, I I got a feeling I I I'm not I didn't have them in my eight, but I reckon they might rock it up this later this year. They might be the dark horses to rock it up. I have said this before and they've been wrong, but I don't know. There's something I saw the other night, I just thought I saw something different in a few of their players.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

It's also a hard place to send a foot uh a sporting franchise and be successful.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yeah. How long did you say the Suns have been going well they haven't won a comp though, have they? No, no.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

They played their first finals last year.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Oh, okay. But they're on the they're obviously on the way up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

So I think like a lot of people in the Gold Coast, like you get a lot of people that move up to the Gold Coast that aren't originally from Gold Coast. So like they've already probably got their NRL team.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

And they see that the Suns doing well, they might jump on the Suns. Yeah. So that's a bit different where it's hard to get a sporting team up there.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

A to be successful and B to get fans, because a lot of the Gold Coast population are not born and bred Gold Coast people.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Yeah. Yeah. So Benny, um, I agree, you've got to change what you said, but to me, winning will change all that. Yeah. It'll all come from winning. So I think they need to get on there, trust in Josh Hannay, uh, work into the system with him and and get it done on the field, you know, and and be more consistent. And I think that comes, everything will change up there. But been saying this for 15 years, and it just doesn't happen. So see this time. Another change, see if this makes any difference. No, it won't be. Probably, but probably not. We'll see how we go. Alright, next question is from our mate Daniel. Um this is your mate, Daniel, isn't it? Yeah. How's he going on the with the women? Any girlfriends or I think he had a date on the ones.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

He had a date? Yeah, yeah, with a French French woman.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Oh, okay. How'd it go? Do we know?

SPEAKER_02 37:55

She doesn't understand anything he says, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

So she doesn't understand him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

That's probably good, but that is probably good.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Yeah. We love you, Dan. Yeah, yeah. If people don't know, Dan plays touch footy with us, he's a he's a legend of a bloke, but he struggles with the women, but um but I'm sure we we maybe we should do the winner date with Daniel.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Yeah, we need more women fans. Yeah. Ladies.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

Yeah, we do. We've only got a few. So but anyway, uh, let's get on to Dan's question. Um, because I do like the question. Thanks for another great epic. My question for the pod rate the monster squad with the huge signing of Payne Has. So he's actually listed his team, his South team. Now, obviously, this is next year. Let me read out first and then you can uh he frustrates me. Okay, alright. Let's read it out first. So this is the side he's put down. Jy Gray at one, Johnston and Campbell Graham the wingers, White and Latrell the centres, Cody at six, he's Harves at Humphreyslash Glover, and then and the pack is Arrow, Brandon Smith, Payne Haas, Talas Duncan, David Fafida, and Cameron Murray at Lock, and his bench is Adam Elliott, Loughlin Hoover, Ewan Aiken, and Tavita T'otola. So that's his side, and he wants us to rate that side. Now you're shaking your head already.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Because I told him, I said, that's not gonna be that's 2026's side with Payne Haas put in it. That's not gonna be the side in 2027. Cody Walker's off contract, Jamie Humphries is off contract, Adam Elliott's off contract. Um who else is there? It's a couple of other boats. Johnson, you know, there's question marks in that whole side. Yeah, Paynehass isn't gonna go into the next this year's side next year, they're gonna have salary cap issues. You know, you got Latrell on a million, you got uh Murray on a million, Wyden and and uh Cody are on high 700s, 800s, so like someone's gotta give, things have got to give there. And a few of those boats are on uh last year deals this year. So if he went into that side, that's a that's a that's a gun side.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

I'm tipping to f um David Fafita didn't come cheap, even though he's had issues, he still wouldn't have come cheap. Yeah, yeah, no. You know, but cheese didn't come cheap either. But I don't know, the Risk are still playing any part of the Cheeses contract?

SPEAKER_02 40:09

I'm not sure. I know they didn't.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

I know someone you didn't mention, I know he's on 750 J Arrow. Yeah, that's it. He's on big money, Gyarrow.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

So something sort of gives for Payne Hass to go into that site. Yeah, yeah, Cody Walker won't be there. This will be Cody Walker's last year.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. I I I think Cody'd be doing everything possible to try and hang around one more year. And even if it it's it's a haircut to 350 or 400, it wouldn't surprise me because you'd be licking it being a half, you'd be licking your lips.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

But even still, you gotta free up cash somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Oh, yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

So someone a big name's gonna probably have to leave that site.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Yeah, so but if that like South is gonna have a good site, come 2027, throw has in there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

They're gonna be good. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Alright, so Dan, it's a very good looking site on paper, but I'd probably agree with Jack's. They're probably gonna lose one or two. Um who then one and two are, I'm tipping if you lose Alex Johnson's no biggie, um, because you can replace a winger. Losing Cody'd be a a real problem because then you've got they haven't got a seven at the moment as it is, and then they won't have a six, you know.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

I I wish they would experiment with the Cody at seven and Jack White at six. I love it because you know what? If Cody does pull the plug n next year, well, you just gotta find the seven.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Just another thing wrong with that side. He's got Brandon Smith at nine and no back up option at nine on the bench. If Brandon Smith's never played eighty minutes in his life, yeah. Just quietly Dan, so and he's not gonna start like that.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Yeah. Yeah, you got what, you think Mamazulos will will start? Yeah, okay. What a great bloke he was. Yeah, yeah. Talking about him. Yeah, he was really, really good bloke. Okay, so we're going to um Trav, Travis. We're going to Trav. Um, shout out to Trav. Um he's in the he's got himself in the Timmy Comp. I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

He's definitely in the super coach.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

Um the rule changes, uh, don't want to get into the rule changes, but what do you think of them being finalised a few days before the season kicks off? Question mark. The clubs now all of a sudden they have a few days to adapt. I know they aren't major changes, but the NRL simply need to be better. The old saying of a billion dollar business run by ten cent heads rings true again. What I've never heard of that one. Um what do you think of PVL and Abdo? Question mark. Firgo, 50 on the Cowboys top eleven, fifty cows beat home the Tigers. You should snap those odds up even if you think the cows will run last, like stealing corn from a blind cocky. Okay, Trav, you're on. Fifty top so I've got 12th to 17th cows, and they need to beat the Tigers home. Um we're on, Trav, so we need to uh work, we'll have to work out how we pay the pay the bill if when Trav has I don't know how you're gonna get the money here, Trav, but when you we'll work something out, I'll send you my bank details. But we'll see how we go. Now let's get to his question. Okay, the rule changes, so he said they're being finalised Yeah, on the eve of of kickoff, really.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Yeah, I don't know why they do it.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

But were they what were they this year? Um the bench one's no issue, I don't think. I can put that in wherever, really.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

It's not they don't I think the bench one's more of a factor than the well the seven tackle set one's no factor at all. Yeah, true. Um and what's the other one? It's just the the the bench?

SPEAKER_02 43:37

Yeah. That was the main one, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 43:39

Yeah. I kinda I know what he's saying. Um the the only thing that I'll say about this stuff, sometimes when it comes out to the public that these changes are now in, sometimes the clubs know about it six weeks before. Yeah. They actually know. Yeah. It's like signing players like like when we break the Jesse Cole Hoon story. He had signed a month or six weeks before that news hit the hit the press. You know what I mean? And I think similar things probably happen like with rule changes. They probably know that these are coming in, you know. I I'm only guessing that, but I'm thinking that they have to give them notice. They can't train all offices and they go, okay, we're changing this rule. Yeah. You know? Um there's no rule we're missing here, is there? Like it's they're the only two that they've changed. There's nothing else that we're forgetting.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

I don't know, I can't remember. The rule the there's rule changes every year. I just ain't I I really I just I read and I forget about it.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

Yeah, we had our piece on this the other week. Yeah. Make the change. If you're gonna change it, change it, then four four or five years. Yeah, then leave it. And then sit down and go through it again. Um But I agree, Pete. They shouldn't be they shouldn't be landing him on the on the club's desk two weeks, three weeks before. It's it's just like the crackdowns, you know, with the referees and shit. They give them they tell them during the week, yeah, they're cracking down on this second. Well, they've trained a certain way the whole offseason, yeah, and then they expect them to change in a blink. Like, you know, and I agree. I I think if the real changes were more severe, I I I I would be have a real issue with it, that they don't give them time to adjust things. But the two that we're thinking of is the six-man bench. I was thinking about this the six-man bench. Um I like it, but I don't like the fact that these blokes that sitting on this bench may not play and could have no footy for three, four, five, six weeks. Yeah. Did you say talk about this or no? Someone talked about it, I remember.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

And some kid that um makes his debut, he's gonna sit on that bench and may not get on. Does that week after week and his family comes down from wherever he is?

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

I the the season launch um they asked the captains. None of them said they liked it.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

None of them? None of them. None of them. Yeah. Did they all like the 17th?

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Oh, sorry, Isaiah Yo didn't mind it.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Um and most of them said they didn't.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

I didn't mind it when I first and I I still don't mind the concept of it, but I really worry that they're they're gonna have to every side they're gonna have to be mixing it up every week. Yeah. Because let's just take, for example, you're gonna put like a a bloke on the bench that's like say sorry about that, about a like a fullback or something, like just in case. So I'm thinking of someone, and I'm going to Cornell, I know, but Liam Ison, he'd be you'd just throw him on as a six-interchange just in case Will Kennedy goes down. But you can't do that every week because he won't play any footy. Yeah, that's right. So I I I don't know how clubs are gonna actually navigate it.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Yeah, that's one thing they're gonna have to figure out.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

Yeah. So I kind of said when it came out I liked it. I'm starting to now think maybe not.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

Yeah. May and maybe your specialist boats that can only play one position in the backs won't get a spot.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

It'll be more to your boys that can play in the halves if they have to, play at centre if they have to, like be more robust with positions.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

Yeah, did did they talk about the um knock-on one, the seven tackle if they're knocked on?

SPEAKER_02 47:08

I only just saw that one.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Yeah, so what do you make of that, the knock-on one? You like that one, don't you? Where like it's knock it on in the in-goals. If they're going for a try and they knock it off.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Yeah, that's fine. I don't like the seven tackles at all from the in-gall, so that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Yeah, okay. Alrighty, so is that it for fans' questions, Jacks?

SPEAKER_02 47:24

I just had our opinions on uh PVL and Abdo.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Oh I I don't uh uh Do you want to go first or do you go first?

SPEAKER_02 47:32

I like PvL, I like Peter Vellandis. I don't think I know Trav's a mate of my dad's and he's not a f they're both, I don't think either of them are fans of um Peter Vellandis, but I like him. He came into the game during that COVID, did good things, he's got Vegas up and running. I think he's a good businessman. He's looking to take the game and make the game more uh global and more so sort of more Americanized with like the NFL and how the NBA operates, and I think that's great for our sport.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

And what about they're not gonna get everything right, but I think what he's done so far is better. He's better. The game's where the game is right now, since I've been watching it as a kid, it hasn't been better. Yeah. The the access that the fans get through the deal with Fox, outstanding, all the panel shows throughout the week, outstanding. Everything the game does right now is great, I think.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

Yeah. Any idea why uh they're not fans of PVR?

SPEAKER_02 48:28

I think they're just small old school footy heads. They like the how the game used to be. I think I don't think they like the constant changes of the rules and that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

Abdo.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

I don't know, I I don't I honestly I don't I don't know what he really does. I know what is he? CEO.

SPEAKER_01 48:45

He's the CEO, isn't he? Chief Operating Officer.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Oh no, no, he's a CEO, isn't he? Yeah. He's the chair isn't Valendis the chairman.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Of the ARL commission, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 48:56

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

I don't know what Abdo I don't know what he does.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

I just Well Abdo took Greenberg's job. So he was CEO, so he's CEO. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

I don't know, I don't I don't know anything about him. I know he's South African and I know that. Well you see him talk to him. He pops his head up every now and then. He seems fine.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

I don't Yeah. He doesn't I don't like honestly, I don't I don't care about him really. Okay. Like I'm sure he's fine, but I don't have a good I don't know positive or negative. He's just yeah this is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

You want my take on both of them? Yeah, go on. Okay. So I'm not sure what these guys with PVL oh look, I like what what Valanis has done for the game. I totally agree, but I'm an old racing head as well, and I worked uh ten years on track. So I know a few things about old PVL that aren't public. Um so that's always in the back of my mind. I was just wondering if that's why your guys might not have uh I don't know if they're punters or not, but there's been some stuff going on in the background that isn't great with PVL, but I do love everything he's done, and I do like he just fronts everything. I love what he did through COVID, like got the game back on before and everyone thought he was nuts, but he got it done. I don't think there's much wrong he's done, I'll be honest, with League. Um I think there's some stuff in the background that has gone on earlier, and probably more to do with the racing uh stuff with the racing. I know he brought the Everest and all that in, but there was stuff going on elsewhere with with Philandis. Um and there is a few people that have yeah, got a bit of a bad taste in their mouth with Philandis. I don't just curious if that's why they have. But I I can't knock him for what he's done for rugby league. He's he's been outstanding. He's been he's been the best I've seen since, you know, um all these like clueless blokes like Dave Smith and and freaking who was the the last one, Greenberg. Greenberg was going alright for a little while, but then it fell apart on him. Um but Villandi's just he just he just makes a decision and he just goes. And I do like that. And he fronts up. He's always fronts up when there's issues he fronts up. Um the other bloke I don't like. I I I I just don't like people running a sport they know nothing about. And you can see when he talks, it's all narrated, like it's all been he's he's got in his head what he's gonna say. It's not people asking questions, and you can just see just they're just like robotic answers, and I don't like that. I just like people that know the sport, know the game, and can answer honestly. But I find with Abdo he's more robotic, and it's probably the best word I could put for him. Um seems like a nice blow, like can't bag him or anything like that, but I I I I don't know. I I I don't know if you call that old school, that I like someone that knows the game, someone that's running the game knows it. Um I felt Greenberg did. I thought Greenberg um did know the game, like reasonably okay, where I find Abdo, well Dave Smith, the the Ori you remember Dave Smith's the Ori? Well that that was a debacle. Yeah. And then and it showed, like, you know, calling Benji Barber Benji Barber, and uh, you know, but saying that Valen's did call Josh Allah Oshe Ole. Yeah, yeah. So um but but Valencies doesn't come on and and talk like he knows everything about footy. Abdo does. He starts talking about players and you just sit there, mate. You probably haven't even watched this bloke, you know. So he's been told stuff, and and I don't know. I I just that's the only thing knock on have on Abdo, you know. Um but I like him as a team because they front and and you know they've got things done. Like, look where we are before they come. Like we're who would have thought when they came in we'd be playing round one in Vegas? Who would have thought COVID tick for COVID, massive tick for magic? Magic round's Magic Round's the the best thing out of all of it. Oh well, Vegas is hard to beat, but Magic Round, you're going we're going up there, mate. You're gonna it's gonna knock your socks off when you see it, how good it is. It's frightening good, you know. Um, and we're gonna be out doing some shit, but you know, it's as good outside the ground as it is inside the ground, you know, like it's just so good. So um mate, there's massive ticks for all them things that they've they've come in, so it's hard to argue, you know.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

So with the job he's done, so and big TV deal coming in a couple years.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

Yeah, big TV deal, and then I think he'll pull up stumps. Yeah, I think that'll be it for him, don't you reckon? Yeah, I think. Yeah, yeah, I think that'll be it. So all right, so that was Trav, so the bets on Trav. So um half agree with you with Villandi's, but yeah, Jax is a big fan of both, so no no no no no.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

I said I don't I don't have an opinion on it, Andrew Abdo. But I like what Villandi's done for.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

What about your opinion on the dragon's house again? Can we get that just to finish off?

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Dragons zero chance, no chance in hell. They beating the dogs.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

We might have a little side little hustle on that, though. Yeah, so anyway, so next week, have we got everything covered, Jax? Is that everything?

SPEAKER_02 53:33

Tipping comp, can you Yeah, we'll put the details in the um YouTube comments, so keep an eye out for that if you're keen to join. And yeah, don't forget, like and subscribe the content. We're also going to be putting out a video of our um interviews at Henson on Saturday, so keep an eye out for that. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

That'll be on YouTube, eh? Yeah, you can't. We have dropped some on Instagram and Yeah, but the longer the all of them will be.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

All of them will be there.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

So anyone, any guys that we spoke to um the other day when we're out there, and and I told you guys that the clips will be on. We're just releasing a few at a time on Instagram. So they're coming. But if you go to the YouTube one, um which will be dropping tonight, Jack?

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Uh sometime this week.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

Sometimes this week. So sometimes this week, and it'll be the whole that'll be all the interviews.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

I think there was one there was a couple that we had technical difficulties.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

There was one that was one or two that there was technical difficulties, but there is um 98% of them will be there. So just remember, guys, when you watch YouTube, make sure you subscribe to our channel. Now, a lot of guys did after Henson, but guys, make sure you subscribe. It really helps us out if you can if you can subscribe to the channel. Yep. Um you sorted all the social stuff out. Is there anything else that we need to talk about that we haven't done? No? Anything on oh next week. Next week. Preview time for Vegas. So we're going to go right in depth um with the two games from Vegas. If I don't know if you want to hear Jax's opinion on Bulldogs Dragons game, but next week it'll be a massive preview on both of them games. It'll be the all the normal stuff, fans questions. So try and get some questions in about them games, guys, opinions, what you guys think.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Um what you think of Vegas as well as a product and where it is now from where it started, if someone's got an opinion on that.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

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