SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to episode eighteen of the League 365 podcast. I'm your host Virgo, joined by, as I am every week, Jax. How are you, brother?

SPEAKER_04 0:07

Yeah, good, good. Yeah. My team got a win over the weekend, so happy days.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Yeah. Test this week though.

SPEAKER_04 0:13

Yeah, yeah. Should be good.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

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SPEAKER_01 0:48

Beautiful. Alright, so um what we're gonna do today, guys, start with the uh tipping comp. We're gonna go through the leaderboard. Have you got that there or you want me to do it, Jax? I'll do it. I've got it. Okay, so this week's winner of the weekly prize was King Dewey, which is your mate Chris, I think, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:08

I'm pretty sure. Oh. He's used his Joker, though. So the two winners of the weekly prize have used their Joker, but they've got the weekly prize, which I've already sorted out with Chris. So well done, Chris. Uh he's up running second. So our leader still, after two rounds on 15 points, is Tadpole 14, which is Paula. Uh we've got King Dewey, which is Chris, equal on 15, and then we go down to third place. Now there's four of us on twelve four people on twelve. It is Pete Beaman, it is Red Devil 22, which is Pete Rowe. Uh, we've got the big fella beside me sitting on 12, and Lizard 2604. Lizard 2604 is Elizabeth Moran. So uh well done, Elizabeth. You're in uh equal third at the moment, so that's good stuff. Having one of our female listeners up there. Yeah. Try and uh reach out to us, Elizabeth, and let us know, um, send us a question in or something. But um well done, Liz, you're running third, and then uh there's a big uh a stack of people on 11. So um so yeah, let's uh keep going with the Tibbing comp and see how we go.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Alright, so what have we got next, Jax? What are we gonna dip a little are we going into the reviews of last week's games?

SPEAKER_04 2:13

I think you've got uh Oh, we've got a new segment.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Is it um called what is it called? I've named it something. It's Ferguson bash up of the week. Alright, so what this is gonna be each week, I'm gonna come up with a topic and we're just gonna lay into it.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

And this week is it what Vossi said the other vote?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

It's what what mate before he even said it, I'd noticed it, and it's about the DALE M point system. Uh it has to go because I've got two examples here. Um the first one is the what game was it? It's the Roosters, the Roosters South game, the Dali M points. Now, the Dali M points, Daily Cherry Evans and Tedesco got three, no issue. Keon got two. Now here's where the issue is. Alex Johnson got two. How the hell if if this Dali M system uh doesn't need to be scrapped? Well, this this will do me. Actually, the next one's worse. But this one here, Alex Johnson getting two points. What a discovery. But how does Alex Johnson get two points? Yeah, I don't know. How does Alex diabolical? He did nothing but score the break the record. So whoever the judge is on on this should be sacked on the spot because he's broken the record and they've given him two daily points.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

We're not worrying about you know, like could have been copped if he got one?

SPEAKER_01 3:37

No, why?

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Because he scored two tries.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Well, the first one he dived in the corner, thank you to Latrell Mitchell thing, and then Latrell set the second one up with David Fafita. Yeah. And he ran 40 metres. No, sorry, you can't get two daily end points. There's he got two deli end points, right? Because whoever that moron of a judge was has just seen that happen and has actually judged him on that, on what happened in the game. Yeah. They haven't judged his performance.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

Nah, no.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Disgrace. Absolute disgrace. And whoever that if the NRL don't do something about this, this the next one's worse.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Well, they're on the money with the rest of the people that got points from that game.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah, well, I I didn't even worry about that. I just saw that he got two points. I went, what a disgrace that is, him getting two points. Now the next one's worse. It's the Newcastle Manly game. Now, somehow, Dylan Brown got four points. So two of the judges have given him two points. He played 37 minutes. He set the second try up. Yes. Before that, done nothing.

SPEAKER_04 4:31

How the hell did um did the hooker that come on or sanding get much points?

SPEAKER_01 4:36

No, but well, hang on a second. 37 minutes, Kalen did more in his 28 minutes than Dylan did in his 37.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Can you uh can you are you gonna you can't argue that.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

Who got points in that game?

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Dylan Brown got the most. And and ready for this one. This was even getting better. Tyson Rosell got three. He played 37 minutes and got three.

SPEAKER_04 4:56

Did Sandon Smith not get any points?

SPEAKER_01 4:57

No, Standard Smith didn't get any.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Or Fletcher Hunt or Fletcher Hunt or Harrison Graham or Graham, whatever he's gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

None of them did.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

Now didn't Sandon Smith. Yeah, it's bad.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Like, how did someone, two judges sit there and watch that first half of footy and tell me Dylan Brown put more into that game than Calen Ponger did? Nothing?

SPEAKER_04 5:19

I agree with you. I can't argue with that.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Seriously, the DALEM system, it's you know what? It's not the system, it's the fucking people doing it.

SPEAKER_04 5:26

Who were on those games?

SPEAKER_01 5:27

They don't tell you anymore. They're all hidden because one remember when was it Millie Boyle or No, it was Rue Sims. Actually judged the game, she wasn't even there and didn't even watch it. Yeah. And they found out. Well, whoever was at these two games didn't watch it either. Like seriously.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Yeah, it's about that.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

If something's not done about it, it's it's a disgrace. I I just cannot believe it. When I saw the points in this game, I went, Are you kidding me? Dylan Brown four for 37 minutes? And then Calen Pong is not even on the list?

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Like, give me a break. And that I to me, I reckon that two people have done it have talked to each other and had no idea and just gone.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

Well and haven't watched the game.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

I don't reckon. Well, how do you give him Dylan Brown? I watched it again to make sure I didn't miss anything. He was solid, and he set the last try up.

SPEAKER_04 6:13

Well, Manley Cook can't get any points in that game. Too bad to get a point.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Well, uh Homole got two. Which is a disgrace. Disgrace too.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

So you're telling me Sandon Smith got no points?

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Sandon Smith got no points.

SPEAKER_04 6:25

I thought he was pretty good. And Fletcher Hunt.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

I can live with him not getting any, but I can't live with anyone.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Fletcher Hunt got no points?

SPEAKER_01 6:31

No, he got none. I I can't live with him getting Trey Mooney get any? Trey Mooney got none.

SPEAKER_04 6:39

Who got others from Newcastle?

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Dom Young.

SPEAKER_04 6:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I well I re-watched it. And I said, whoever's watched this game the the Russian one was bad. This is diabolical. This one. Like seriously, it w they should be gone from judging judging Dalian points because it is a disgrace. Yeah, anyone one uh Kalen did enough to get points in his 28 minutes. Dylan Brown didn't. Kalen did. Kalen definitely did. But I just it's a disgrace. It's so bad.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

Bosse brought it up the other day.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Yeah, I saw Vossi go off and he was 100% right. And but anyway, so that's Fergus bash up of the week. Uh write in the comments if you agree or not, but I I find it hard you're not going to agree. So um anyway, let's see what happens this week. But that that's horrif horrific. Let's roll into the round two reviews. Round two reviews. Jack, do you start? We've got the Thursday night game was uh Brisbane Parramatta. Brisbane Parramatta, okay. Me or you to start on this one. I'll start. Yeah because I did tip Park. I did tip Parra. Um I did tip para, but I have to say 20 to 6 I was selling out. Yeah, yeah. I was selling out. But what I did say last week with their mentally and their body language, it sh it come to the fore. Again. Like a couple of times Reese Walsh caught in the background when para scored in the corner with a smile on his face, like, can you believe this? But smiling. Like, come on. Like, it's not good. We w there's problems there. Do you do you agree now there's problems? Because you've got him winning the comp.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Winning the comp? Yeah, you had him going back to back, didn't you? I don't think I did. I had to hire my ladder.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Well no, I think you've got them winning it. I think you had Brisbane Roosters and you went I know you went roosters winning it. Didn't ya? Or did you?

SPEAKER_04 8:29

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

I think you did. But you were very keen on them. You got them minor premiers.

SPEAKER_04 8:34

Yeah, I know. I got them higher my ladder.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:39

Oh, they're not playing good footy, you do.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Yeah, but do you think there's an issue? I think there's a m issue in the head. I don't think it's uh abil they haven't looked they don't lose ability overnight. But I saw it in that first week that there was an issue with them the body language was horrific in that first game and it came to the fore the other night. No? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

Something I I to be honest, I didn't pay too much attention to their body language, but it like they looked like they were cruising at 20 to 6. Yeah. And then before you knew a Paramount are in front. And I I couldn't believe they were in front, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah, well, if you go back and look at the replay, some of Ezra Man's defensive efforts were not even trying. Yeah. There was there was effort areas there that were diabolical. Um so I don't know. I I fear for them massively now. I was fearing for them at the start of the year. I'm fearing for them massively now. I like I if if if if I could take my top eight back, they wouldn't be my eight.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

I know they've got a bit of a premiership, they've got just got a premiership hangover, I think.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:38

I think they'll they'll come good. They started slow last year. They had some really bad performances.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Yeah. Well they got Melbourne in Melbourne this week, so there's it won't surprise I will say this, it won't surprise me if they go down there and and go okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

Well they reckon Reynolds is out.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Yeah, they they said he's not playing.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

Tell us we'll go we'll be uh giving it to Reynolds about that.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Well uh actually he's right because I sent a a message when I saw him on Fox was it you that I sent? No, I sent it to a mate of mine. And I sent it, I said, Can you believe this bloke has gone off last with five it was five minutes ago with the game in the balance, went off, right, couldn't play the last five minutes, looked like he was crippled, yeah. And then he jumps on a plane the next morning, goes and sits in a high chair on Fox League for five hours. Yeah, it's not a good look. No, awful look. And and look, he's got history of it going down hurt and playing the next week. Like he obviously I I don't know why I I don't know, but it looked awful to mine.

SPEAKER_04 10:36

If he doesn't play, it's a bad look. Well he's not playing, they reckon he's not playing. I don't agree with Talus very often, but he's he's got a le he's he's got every right to bag you.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

A hundred percent, as well, is he not? Yeah, and what did you make of para?

SPEAKER_04 10:50

Um they weren't good to start with, but they didn't have a lot of ball.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

No.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

When the momentum sung they came good.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Um I'll be honest, I I I wasn't overly impressed. No, neither was I. I I think it was a case of Brisbane were horrific again.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Yeah, and I think once the momentum swung and yeah, I'm listening to it.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

There were some worrying signs of power. That the I think it was the Catoni Stags try, I think it was the third try. They put a grubber in, and Katoni Staggs didn't have a bloke within ten metres of him. And I only Iongi was cruising across the field. Not even he played good, but you've got to watch these other efforts. His effort there was horrific. And I don't know, I I I didn't think they were that gr great, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

Yeah, neither did I. I thought Iangi was good, Kilmatou Alangi was good. Yeah. Um they were all ra raving about Pezzet, but I I I didn't I thought he was just solid, to be honest. The two tries he scored were a bit of the ricochet.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

The second one was just ricochet off the street. Well, so was the first. And so was the first.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

He did nothing. Yeah. It's it's yeah. I I I I thought they were average. I thought they just won because the other mob weren't real good, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Yeah. Still, you gotta give him credit for coming back from the five.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Oh, 100%, and up there, down 20 to 6, gotta give him credit. A few of their edges like that, uh, Kelmer looked really good, and a few of them like went okay. Yeah, um, but I think there's plenty of improvement in them. I think they'll improve. So yeah. So alright, let's move on to our second game, which was the Friday six o'clock game, and that was Warriors and Canberra. Warriors and Canberra. What'd you make of this one, mate?

SPEAKER_04 12:21

Um I I I I've said it a few times now. Warriors are gonna be a real hard football team to beat at home. I think they're a they're a at home, they're a serious football team. Yeah, like Canberra, you know, similar like big pack, could have I thought they would have gone with them more, but yeah. Good luck anyone going over there and trying to win, yeah, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

They're probably the side that's probably surprised us both, like big time.

SPEAKER_04 12:47

Well, we both really I own him in my top four.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Oh, you've got him in your four. Oh, okay. Sorry, I thought you didn't have oh well I haven't got him in my eight, so they've definitely surprised me. Yeah. I I I I didn't see this coming. And to think two of their big guns are still not there. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 13:01

So Tannerboy's playing good butt.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Yeah, but Metcalf is back.

SPEAKER_04 13:05

When Metcalf's back, he's back.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Um what they do with Tanner Boy, move him to the bench and bring him on for Regan, I I don't know if that's what they'll do, but he's probably earned a spot in the 17, I'd have to say. Um, but they have surprised me. But again, they did this last year. They they've come out running and and then they fell away late. So but I have to say they've they've surprised me. Yeah. So not well, not you. No, not in top four sides.

SPEAKER_04 13:30

Yeah, and I just think I I looked at who that I looked at their draw, I looked at who they're playing at home, and I just thought they're gonna win nearly all their home games. Like, it's pretty tough to go over there and win. No, they've taken care of the Roosters in Canberra to top eight sides from ISH comfortably. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Um they're four packs like outstanding.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Th this is probably their test this week. I know we'll get into the previews uh shortly, but this is probably their test. Going up to Newcastle with players out, like Newcastle got players out, they're probably expected well, they are expected to win. Yeah. It might be the test that yeah, we'll actually show you where they're at. If they go up there and take care of Newcastle comfortably in front of thirty, thirty-two thousand people, uh they're the real deal, you would have to think.

SPEAKER_04 14:15

Yeah, they should be taking care of it.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Because really, it's not hard to get up at uh at your home ground over there. This might be a little bit tricky.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

It might be a trickier definitely a game they should still win.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Well, they should win, absolutely. But that's what I'm saying. But these are the ones that sides can slip up at. Where you just go in there thinking, uh, you know, no brown, no Ponga. We'll get this done, and before you know it, you're in trouble. Yeah. You know, but anyway, it'll be a good test for them anyway this week.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

Canberra, what'd you make of them just quickly? Ordinary.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah, ordinary. I I I I one thing I did take out of the first two rounds is that Manley Canberra game, the round one game, and I did comment about this that it was a very poor quality game. It was exciting, but it was shit quality, and the form did not hold up at all. Canberra got smashed, Manley got smashed.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

And I think that form line out of that game was pretty poor that night. Yeah. So Canberra got a lot of praise for coming back and winning the way they did, but I think there's some holes there. I think there's a worry. I uh with Canberra, I think.

SPEAKER_04 15:13

Yeah, I thought they are. I don't think I've put them in my A this year.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

No, you didn't have them in in their A. Like, like obviously it's round two, but I I got no doubt the form line coming out of that game was poor. Yeah. You know, because Manley, again, we'll talk about them. They were horrendous.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

Yeah, Canberra back at home this week. So yeah, they've got to be.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I can forgive Canberra, but uh they need to they need to uh turn it round this week in front of their home home crowds. So you know they've travelled they they've had to travel to Brisbane round one uh Brisbane?

SPEAKER_04 15:40

Who, Canberra?

SPEAKER_01 15:41

Where'd they go round one? They went to Manley.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

They went to Brookie.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Oh, they went to Brookie, yeah. Oh they sorry, they went straight from Man. They didn't actually go back to Canberra, they went straight to New Zealand, so maybe it didn't work, but still they'll they'll pull. I'm making excuses for them. They'll pull. So okay, the late game on the Friday night was Rooster's Souse. Rooster's Souse. Well, obviously the Alex Johnson thing probably over overtook everything that night, but um I thought Roosters were good. Um I didn't have to touch on the try first. Yeah, touch on the try.

SPEAKER_04 16:12

What do you think of that? The fans and all that. I thought it was yeah, it was good. I loved it. I was a bit worrying about it before, like for a few reasons. So were you, but the that couldn't have gone any better than what it was.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Well they got lucky, the NRL, didn't they? Could you imagine it if that had been pulled back for some reason? Yeah, or like it would have been horrific.

SPEAKER_04 16:29

When the game was in the balance, like just after half time, I think it was good timing. They got everyone off within 20 minutes and play restarted.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

I think it was it was good for AJ too. Like that it wasn't just a dive over in the corner, untouched try. It was a really good try, so that's the try that's gonna get shown all the time. And it was a really good try. And those images, yeah, yeah. Yeah, when they picked him up. I still think the funniest thing of the whole thing was with the rooster supporter got there first. Yeah. And he jumped off. Oh, mate, he was having the time of his life. He didn't give a shit if the roosters won or not. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Supposedly he's a Bulldogs fan. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, in the Roosters jersey.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

One poor bloke was one of the only blokes that got arrested and taken away.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

He got arrested?

SPEAKER_04 17:08

Oh, he got taken. He did he?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Well, the security guy let him go.

SPEAKER_04 17:12

No, there was one not that guy. There was a guy with no teeth. One guy got arrested. Yeah, taken away.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Yeah, but he went before accepted. He went at the first try.

SPEAKER_04 17:19

Nah that's a different guy. Oh, that's another guy. Yeah, there's c two guys got arrested, so pretty unlucky.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Yeah, well, they should have arrested Albo. Yeah. That's who they should have arrested. How bad was that? Yeah, that was Bob. I saw um footage from the is it 2GB? He's Levy at 2GB. Yeah, Levy. Did you see that footage? Yeah, he was kind of. Yeah, giving it to him, he was. So anyway, what about the game? The game. Um yeah, you you start you're the you're the the chooky man. What'd you make of them?

SPEAKER_04 17:47

Well, fur I'll touch on the man that's copped who got unfairly bagged the week before. Yep. Which was David Cherry Evans. Uh he got grilled in the media. I didn't think his performance in New Zealand was that poor. A few defensive um reads were bad, but I thought his attacking play and kicking game was okay. Um he came out and I thought he was outstanding. The try scored was good, the kick to Teddy at the end. Um his kicking game throughout the game was good. Defence is gonna be a worry with him. He's never been a great defender. Um but the return of Robert Toyer on that on that right edge was enormous as well. Yeah. Um he's not he doesn't get Latrell every time, but boy, he gets him a lot of times.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

No one will get Latrell every time. Yeah. Yeah. And like to be honest, uh he missed him early. Well, he didn't miss him. Latrell put the big palm up in his face and pushed him off. Um, and I think that the second try when Marky Mark came in, I think that forced Marky Mark to come in wasn't confident. Yeah. Which he won't be. No, yeah. If Lattrell's putting that move on, you're gonna you're gonna hesitate, yeah, aren't you if you're Marky Mark. So I d I don't blame Marky Mark, I'll be honest, because he mate, there's no more frightening centre to defend than Lattrell. Yeah. You know, like so Marky Mark come in, but I you could see that he'd been beaten once and he probably wasn't sure what to do, you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:02

So everyone was worried about that Rooster's right edge and against South's, you know, left edge with Cody and uh Fafita Latrell. I thought Roos' right edge held up really well. Yeah, it did, it did. So the ch the change of CY Wong out there was good. Yep. Uh and Robert Toyer, it's a good defender.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Yeah, yeah. Um my take on Daly, um, I I saw a a different Rooster side when Daly took control. I felt that Daly played seven and Walker took the back seat, um, which is the way it should be, because one of them's a seven and one of them's not, in my book. Walker is a six. He's not a bloke that does you see all them little plays Daly did. Sam Walker's not that player. That's what your seven needs to do, what Daly did. Don't you agree with that? What kick and just just what he did. He controlled the kicking game, yeah, he rolled it in when he needed to. He just did the Sam Walker.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

Walker can roll it in.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

He can roll it in, but he's he's probably more he's not a game manager. No, no, no. He's not a game game manager. He's he wants someone that can well I think that's why it worked with Hugo. Hugo is a a game manager and that's it.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

And that's why it worked. And they've tried to give Sam Walker the keys, and I think it took one week to realise uh hang on, we've given the keys to the wrong bloke.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Because Daly needs the keys to the joint. And let Sam just play off the back of him. When Daly wants it, Daly gets it in my book. Like I thought he was good. I didn't think he was outstanding. I I th but he was good, very good. Um the fullback again was through the roof crazy good. Yeah. Um Marky Mark was Marky Mark was good, but you you know, you've got to accept you're gonna get the odd error from Mark. Yes, but you gotta accept that. Yeah. You get the good, you know, as long as it's not 50-50, it's not every second time he's doing it, which it's not, he does three or four good things, then uh one you'll go, oh, why'd you do that? But you've got to accept that with blokes like that. Yeah, that's just the way it is. Um but there was definitely improvement in him with Daily running the show, I thought. So but they're the probably side in the comp that uh have got the most improvement in them, I feel. Out of the sides that can win the comp, they're the side that I think has got the most improvement. The Russians.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

So did people go off a bit early last week after New Zealand?

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Yeah, they did. Um It still wasn't It still wasn't a great performance, I didn't think. Well you couldn't say it was a great performance. No, it was a good performance. It was a solid performance.

SPEAKER_04 21:26

But I think they did well to wrestle back momentum after the AJ trial.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Yeah, I agree, I agree. Um I I'm just gonna have to wait and see what like with them. I I don't know. I was confident at the start of the year, I'm not as confident, but I still think that they're a definite side that if they get themselves positioned well with six weeks to go in the comp, they're gonna be right there because I think their best footy's gonna be late.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

That's how I feel. Which is not uncommon for them. They do it a lot. Last year they did it, they were pretty ordinary most not most of the year, but halfway through the year, and then they started to find their best. late in the season and I think that's probably gonna happen again and there'll be I think there'll be games where they're they're good and then they're poor. I think that you're gonna get that with them.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Yeah let's go to South what do you make on South when they when they came back from the from AJ's try too many errors and I think that's what killed them too many errors from their big names Cody and Latrell I think made a few um and they didn't handle the probably the first ten minutes right they had a lot of ball on the Roosters trial on the first ten minutes and couldn't score. Yeah just so I think too many errors from yeah probably I think they got overhyped with the moment of AJ and came out and probably weren't really switching.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

I'll be honest before half time I thought Roosters were going the better. I thought Roosters were going the better even like after the AJ try I I I felt Roosters were going the better. Yeah to me they were winning that game the way that doesn't always happen but I felt they were going the better. The biggest thing I took out of it and I've been uh big on this Jack White went to six and things changed for them. He got in there created a try straight away yeah like the quicker they get him to five eight the better they're gonna be in my opinion. Because at the moment everything's left Roos's prepared for that the left side attack yeah they got caught once twice probably in the long in the long train but that was a bit off the cuff that try yeah but apart from that every time they went there Roos has had them covered. Yeah that's right you know and for me they're not using the right side enough you know and I think Jack as soon as he I don't think it's coincidence as soon as he went to six something happened yeah and I think the quicker they get him there the better.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

You might not get there overly quickly.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Well it depends on results. Jamie Humphries is back this week so it's he's playing seven he's playing seven so but anyway we'll see what happens. Alright move on to the next game the Saturday five the th was there three three three o'clock game was it Tigers Cowboys? Yeah morals I told you Tigers morals last week not rocking they were $1.50 mate come on that's not morals hey I've tipped them to make the eight I'm very confident now I'm even more confident that they'll mate the eight I I think they're very good side I'd I rate 'em you yeah let's hold the horses on top eight. Oh yeah no I tipped them top eight let's hold the whole I don't have to hold them well okay but I think you're d I think you're going a bit overboard.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

It was at Lycart where they should be very good on a fast track against a side that's not very good.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

I think you're missing the point though they're usually not good when that these kind of games come up.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Yeah but they should be now with the team they've got to yeah I'm not say I'm not saying they're a top eight side let's let's see if they can back it up this week um but they're good yeah like quite uh adding Kaipe's Paul um I like uh he's had a good game yeah um I thought Jerome looked real sharp yeah I like he looked sharp on his feet Dewey as well yeah Dewey was solid you know bulls good they've lost Taylor May he's out for a month I reckon but um I like him I like what I saw it was just good scenes like the Tigers fans up and about enjoying yeah Brett you know Brent Reed was into him again saying they shouldn't be playing there well it's ludicrous when they that stadium look is unreal of when it's like that let them yeah they should be playing there yeah 100% they should the tigers fans love they didn't give a shit if the toilets are dirty and they got to queue up they don't care.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

No it's like Shark Puck they don't care. Yeah you know it's just the other people care. Yeah not the Tigers you know so that's the way it should be in my book. So but good on the Tigers and um Tigers fans should be up and about for me. There's definitely hope this year I just don't want to oh no I'm with you but the games usually they could they could slip in if you know like you're expecting the result but they got there got it done yeah and got it done comfortably and uh just some of their individuals just look really good which I liked seeing that. Now the other mob the mob that I've hammered all offseason what do you make of them?

SPEAKER_04 25:50

Yeah they're not a good football team. No I thought that was seriously hard done by with the Simbin Harrison Edwards horrendously hard done by he can't get out of the way no horrendously hard done by they ran right at him and he got big not that that changed the result but they're already on the back foot. That's right um yeah I don't I I I don't like Todd Payton I think he I think he lost that playing group a long time ago I think they need to bite the ball there and just get rid of him and start again.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

I don't think it's that I I've said it all off so it's not a good roster. I know people are arguing it's not a good roster.

SPEAKER_04 26:21

It's not a good side and then anyone can I I don't I I just don't know what people are seeing is it a bad side well any first grade side a bad side I I don't think so but it's not a good side but they've got it never has been it never has been well when I say never has been since Valen or them left you know I I don't know who else left Val and who you love Valentine Holmes I do love Valentine Holmes you love keep dropping at Valentine like that that's that team's got I think they had five who they've tell me who they've got just wait I think they had four or five origin representatives last year. That's not a bad side stop with the origin representatives I've explained that to you but not every side has five origin representatives it doesn't matter yeah it does matter it doesn't they're Queenslanders it do they got Tom Dieran who played for Australia Reuben Cotta who played for Australia yeah there's two Australian players they that if you've got two Australian players but what happens when sides have got five and six Kiwis or five or six tongens in the side but no one ever mentions that they always say Australian or origin.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Well because that's the benchmark that's the benchmark I don't think it is the benchmark benchmark because these blokes can't play for them how Australia's the benchmark the best international players right and for Noble's gonna walk into the site walk into the site I think cowboys are underperforming with the players some of the players have gone that side you can't I don't think you can argue that. Tell me who's got a better a worse roster than the Cowboys who's got a worse roster than the Cowboys well geez you put me on the spot right now we'll go to the the sides that are struggling Titans well I can tell you now there'd be players in that Titan side I'd take before I wouldn't not before Dearden but if you took five I'd be taking at least three of the Titans before any of the Cowboys like Deedon would be one the only other one I'd want and it'd be questionable would be drink water. The rest of them you'd rather the Titans players I'd rather Jaden Campbell I'd rather Keanu King so you're telling me hang on hang on you're only taking two cowboys from the Titans side no no no I said if I took five players out of the two sides like five five I'd pick Deirdon would be in that five yeah Kinney would be in the five Campbell would be in the five definitely Tino would be in the five there's four and there's three Titans already you're gonna argue any of them you would take no but I think I don't think Titans have they I don't think they have a better roster. Really? Yeah I'd have to go through the other side I don't think dragons have a better roster Dragons I could probably yeah I I could probably I'm not gonna argue the the dragons probably but wow um I I got some mail actually let's get on out of this game because the Cowboys are sickening I don't think I'm gonna shoot at you may not have a better roster yeah go on definitely don't okay okay I'm getting mail getting mail Scott drinkwater I'm getting mail he won't play this week he's named he won't play this week I'm getting mail pretty strong mail and uh don't be surprised if he's not at the club mid season. Yeah Scott Drinkwater That's a scoop. Not a scoop it's something I've been told that he won't play this weekend and Jackson Purdue will play fullback and Scott Drinker won't play and don't be surprised if he's shown the exit this year. That's surprising I'll be getting rid of the I'm not I'm not saying it's gonna happen I'm just gonna be getting rid of Todd Payne first. So yeah but how many times can you get rid of the coach?

SPEAKER_04 30:00

Well what do you mean what do you mean he's been there for four years now yeah but I don't know. You just get rid of the coach every time there's shit and get rid of the coach a thousand times.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Yeah in the history have got to go first though that are just not aiming up probably probably yeah Scott Drinkle is not I feel for Deirdon because he tries his ass off Deirdon. But um anyway let's move on let's move on to the next game uh we worked out Tigers were quite good cowboys were diabolical probably barring the side we're gonna talk about soon there's an argument who the worst side this weekend was but anyway let's go next game Melbourne uh Saints yeah what'd you make of this man?

SPEAKER_04 30:38

I it's I miss a lot of this game. Did you? Yeah um but Surfa Lungo he's very good. I knew he was good. I didn't know he'd be I didn't think he'd your statement was he'd be they would wouldn't really miss a meat yeah with Pappenhausen and I thought maybe How are you feeling now about that statement that I got back for that you said I'd get crucified for yeah I think he's on track faster than what I thought.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

I thought it might take him a couple years to reach that level I didn't I didn't his footwork his speed his electric I I want to see him though like I I'm a big fan and I and I said it because I didn't think Pappenhausen's form was anywhere near his best in the last year or two but they've put 50 on the the first week for and they're sewer final far lungos games. I want to see him in a 1614 game and see how he is. Yeah. Because that there there's games that just suit him. Do you know what I mean? And he's gonna look outstanding in games like that. It's just the way it is you know let's see when there's a challenge put to him and and see how he is but um because yeah easier to shine in that kind of game but let's see what happens when they're in a a dog fight and see how he is but he's been outstanding uh two weeks in a row to be honest and that's probably yeah the call I made probably not looking too bad at the moment but things change quick so um did you see the pass from Daniel Atkinson It it's possibly one of the best passes I've ever seen. It was ludicrous wasn't it it's one of the best passes I've ever seen I've never seen him throw a pass like that. Yeah it was an absolute bullet it was a bullet off the wrong leg he it was I don't know how he got the power to throw the pass. It was a bullet it was but he had to do something because he hasn't been great I have to say they're in for I think uh the predictions on them preseason are spoiled. Did they name Kyle this week? Because he got hurt.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

I think they did I would have seen it if you noticed yeah yes they have because um the bloke JC that does teamless he once again said oh look at that dragonside round three and no changes again. Yeah yeah um they they're in for a long year let's be well we know yeah they're in a well and they're well and truly in a rebuild.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Yeah they're they're they're yeah they they tried hard I thought they tried they tried hard and when Gutho went I felt that's when the shit hit the wall but they just haven't got they just haven't got the players no no no they're yeah they're in a real yeah it I I'd be I'd nearly I'd put a lot on the line that there's three clubs that can get the spoon I reckon them Manley Cowboys yeah I reckon we're down to three already the difference between Dragons I forgot Titans the difference between the the Dragons uh North Queensland and Manley at the moment is their efforts there. They're just Dragons were yeah the Dragons are crying really well unfortunately there's no quality in that roster yeah agreed agreed so and if there is it's a few years off it's young kids that are coming through that are still trying to navigate through first grade yeah but Melbourne just again being Melbourne yeah yeah alright so that was the was that the 530 game yeah your side against Penrith next Sharki's yeah um okay I I didn't think Cronulla were that were that bad to be honest. I thought they started fantastic I thought the first seven or eight minutes they they were rolling downfield they were smashing Penrith and I thought here we go and I'm not making excuses and or anything but the first try was scored off the worst knock on and how they missed it and it Cronulla dropped their heads and you can't do that. And I felt they dropped their heads and they just went back to the old sharks of old and just were hanging in okay just leaked a try on half time and Penrith would just strangle them and do what they always do to them. Cronulla just can't beat them. They haven't beaten them since 2018. Just can't beat 'em it's just they're bogey side and Penrith just strangled them and that's what happened.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Yeah Penrith's defence at the moment is pretty good. I w I didn't think sharks look like scoring to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

They didn't they didn't and um when they did score it was like an inch in the corner like it was lucky to be after he got it down Katawa so though yeah that I I think they're the side to beat. At the moment definitely yeah so um but they're not doing anything better than what they were the last couple of years I don't feel so I I I felt two or three years ago they looked unbeatable. Now I think they're beatable. Well yeah they're not going to be able to I think they're beatable. I don't think they're I don't know I I I saw enough from Cronella I know they got beat by 20 so I don't I saw enough that I thought you know what if when they play Melbourne or someone like that I think Melbourne might be able to beat them.

SPEAKER_04 35:19

There's less class in that side now. Yeah you know it's the nucleus of Edwards Joe and Cleary that are that are you know that are there that are could you know when Martin comes back this week that's going to help him massively I really I I liked Blaze telling his back end of last year I thought he started to really come on and I thought he's been really good the last the first two weeks of the season and can we talk about Casey McLean yeah Casey McLean Casey McLean he's 19.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

Yeah crazy wow and Tom more than handy Tom very handy but the other kid he has got superstar written all over him yeah and um I'm telling you he is up then the two centers we spoke about last week the best two he's closing in at a rapid rate rapid rate he's closing in. Yeah but he's not don't take that the wrong way he's he's not there but I'm telling you he he's at number three for mine he's at number three he's gone past Catone and and blokes like that for me. Oh Catoney's been very this kid I've don't I don't remember barring Latrell when he came through I don't remember a nine year old with the the the strength of of he just gets through every single time it's unbelievable he's sticking his nose through I said since Latrell Latrell's the best at that age but I don't remember you got someone for me that you you're grinning at me so I'm guessing you're thinking of something strengthwise I'm talking at 19 yeah that puts his body on the line and actually gets his nose through every single time it's yeah different player to Latrell I'm not no I didn't yeah I'm saying at the age the strength I'm talking yeah not many nineteen year olds are are strong like that.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

I think Katone stays has been very good the first two weeks and he's incredibly strong as well but Casey McLean's very good twenty seven yeah twenty-eight he's not nineteen yeah no he's definitely got a big bright future Catone was coming off the bench when he was probably twenty yeah nineteen Casey McLean's got a bright future but I I'd still have Katoney at the moment in front of him I think Catone's played good footy. Fair enough all right now Sunday Arvo brookie I tipped it I told you I thought Newcastle were a chance I tipped him in both my tipping comps.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Oh hang on I've got something to to talk to you about your tipping comp. Yeah you tipped South to beat the roosters but in the tipping comp I knows you tipped the roosters. Yeah because we can't do that to the get that you can't oh I can't oh well then I'm tipping roosters every week.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

People are watching us and they're probably going I like this bloke I reckon he's a good judge no because you never tip in a tipping club against your teams but I was giving a non-biased uh what I thought would happen non-biased. But I'm always going to tip roosters on tipping but when we review the game I'll give it a non-biased opinion. Okay alright uh Newcastle Manley uh Manly uh I'd said it this before the season started I tipped them for the spoon they're awful yeah you'd be they're awful you'd be confident you'd be double confus I remember when we tipped our sides for the spoon you tipped Manley I tipped the Cowboys but we made it clear that we're having a go. Yeah we weren't just gonna go oh yeah dragons titans all the ones everyone was tipping um now you talk about a bad roster that's a bad roster manly is a not a bad so you got Manley a worse roster than the Cowboys? Yeah 100% really hundred percent really well look they got no nine the Simpkins yeah yeah but hang on hang on let me finish Fogarty and Brooks is not good like you can have one you can't have them both yeah um unfortunately Jake Chavoyovich's football career looks like it's coming to an end very soon like it ended three years ago he he's been he was a great servant to that club as soon as he unwrapped headgear with bubbles on it he should have retired you can't run out for like in Buzz Lightyear like seriously he is not playing good football their wingers are not good we're getting one of them they're not good Ruben Garrick is struggling big time Jason Saab um I don't know what Jason Saab offers apart from his speed that their best players playing set their best attacking weapons playing center Tom is nowhere near the footballer he was and that's no um that's not bagging Tom that's his body's agree you know not what it was yeah he's not moving anywhere near we said it the other week 75% if that like look at some of these bokes they're bringing off on the bench Nathan Brown Ethan Bullymoor like it's this is not a good football team no Nathan Brown Ethan Bullimore's been good for him.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Nathan Brown agree that it's not a good football team no it's not yeah and I um I argue it's a better roster than the Cowboys are I don't know I don't even think it's close. Newcastle though very good like KP first half what a shame yeah it is and Dylan Brown as well I I like not many people probably don't like Newcastle what watching that first 20 minutes I was at the on the edge of my seat watching them it was I liked seeing it was so good watching them. Yeah like I loved it and I I've bagged KP over the years but not as a ability I just all the games he misses and sometimes his attitude but that was so good to watch.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Yeah definitely so good to watch it's a shame that they're both going to miss a month to two months. Really shit I feel for Newcastle fans because imagine that crowd next week they get Ponger and Brown were up there with Fletcher Sharp back they've got sand in there they can cover it a lot better than what they used to um I think Fletcher Hart hunts more than handy for to stop gap for a few weeks um look I haven't looked into their into their draw but they need to be praying that they've got some sides that they can beat because I don't think they can cover it.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Yeah I I I don't know how you can possibly cover KP in what we saw that 20 minutes and and Dylan.

SPEAKER_04 40:57

Well you can c I think you can cover Dylan with KP there if you've got Fletcher Sharp and um Sandon in the high what if you only lose one of them if you lose one of them they can cover it for a few weeks.

SPEAKER_01 41:06

They've lost both of them it's so disappointing it's so disappointing. That that play that Dylan put on with the big five foot step it it was so good. Just the speed he accelerated through the gap like there's really good signs for Dylan Brown.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Yeah there's really bad signs for Manley losing two home games to start the season where they're meant to be very strong against probably they would have looked at the draw and thought we can be two and oh here.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

Yeah. Like even at Canberra but when you got Canberra you would you want to get them sides early. Yeah getting them at home round one big crowd think and we can roll there.

SPEAKER_04 41:42

And the play that highlights um where they're at was when Garrick makes the break and he doesn't even quick play the bullet he gets tangled up with the marker he steps over him then players it and there's no one there.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

And not only is there no one there's no one even close to getting to the only one that was there was Saab who turned around and ran straight back to his window how funny was Saab the vision of Saab Saab just went woo out he went and yeah the worst thing was that no one picked up the first person there was Brandon Wakeham he could be the slowest bloke in the NRL yeah he was the first bloke there like where's Garrick where's Cola Garrick made the break oh sorry where's collar where's well Saab was there where's Brooks where's Brooks bad signs for Manley really bad. That was horrific play that but anyway let's get on on onto it when the last game was I thought this was the worst game of the weekend to watch oh this was a bludger. Yeah this was this was my dad used to work use the word bludger and seriously this was a bludger of a game. Yeah 6 pm Sunday I'm still scratching my head out of the Dolphins won. Yeah so am I they were horrendous yeah talking about uh negative body language the tight the Dolphins looked like they didn't want to be there. Katoa didn't look like we wanted to be there. The hammer didn't look like we wanted to be there and then he ended up winning in the game. Yeah yeah so for 45 minutes he wanted he was jogging he was it was embarrassing what they produced.

SPEAKER_04 43:03

Yeah. It was that last twenty minutes where I felt like the Titans didn't have the ball.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Well they scored they scored off the the drop the short dropout and that gave the Dolphins a little bit of a lift and that's all that needed yeah it's all it needed so um do we talk about this game for No we don't talk about this game for long at all. All I say is the Dolphins needed to win and they did. So the Tons the Dol well yeah but the the Titans aren't expected to do much this year. The Dolphins are probably expected to be in and about the eight.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

Yeah Ivan like their first two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Oh I've hated it like my my confidence if well again I said earlier if I changed my eight I I I can't remember who who I said. Then I wouldn't have the Dolphins in there either after what I've seen. But it is round two so things can change but and the Dolphins did start slow last year but shit there's a worry. Yeah real worry. Anyway so that's the uh review of uh round two and we're gonna go straight into the preview of round three. And we start on Thursday night, and I think it is the Canberra Raiders versus the Canterbury Banksdown Bulldogs from what's it called down there these shots? GIO GIO GIA Stadium. When I first looked at this game, Jax, I thought very tricky.

SPEAKER_04 44:15

Just quickly, what do you think of Bronson Cherry being dropped? It was a shock to me when I saw the article on Sunday or Saturday or whenever it was.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

Yeah, you got any mail about it?

SPEAKER_04 44:25

No. Just the the the the mail that's gone around that they moved him from the left to the right. He wasn't happy.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Okay. Alright, so I sat down and had lunch today with a former play manager, and he told me what he has been told, and he has got links to the Bulldogs, and he's told me it has something to do with this uh Okay, I've got to be careful what I say here. Um is there something called the cartel or the the uh coconut cartel or something? Yeah, yeah. Something to do with that. Crichton and Cherry have uh had words and this is where it all started. This is what I've heard.

SPEAKER_03 45:06

Let's let's not go let's not deep dive. I don't even know what it is. Let's not deep dive.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

So anyway, so what I'm well you'd have to be an idiot to think that Bronson Cherry's been told to play on the right and he's kicked up a stink about it. You can't bel you've got to be d dumb if you think that's what it is. It's not that. Like he played it on the right at Cronola. Like as if you're gonna go and go, I'm not playing on the right.

SPEAKER_03 45:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

So the smothering up something and the smother I'm being told is an issue with Sherry and Grirton. Yeah. That's the issue I've been told it is. And uh it will be over in the next few weeks. He'll get it released. He's he's gone. That's what I've been told today. By a former player manager that has managed players at the Bulldogs.

SPEAKER_04 45:53

He's handy pickup for a club that needs a center.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Yeah, he he comes with a warning. As well, of course, yeah. You know, um so but that's um. Alright, let's let's chat on the game then.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

Yeah, go stop grinning. The Narutoala's like you're not getting dropped. Bronson Cherry's not getting dropped for your Naruto. Um I think Raiders will bounce back here. I think yeah, I I like them for the bounce back big time down there at home. Yeah. Chilly, night game, dewy. Dogs haven't played in two weeks. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

You find that a bad thing though?

SPEAKER_04 46:26

Uh this early in the season, yeah. I do. I think you've if they played a game, they weren't overly impressive. Yeah, they had to come back from Vegas, but I feel like you want to be playing football at this time of the year. You don't want to your buyers early or a couple weeks off. I think you want to play, start to get some momentum going, and um just get into the season. It feels like they've played a game, now they've a couple weeks off, now they've got to re-get into it. Um I really like Canberra to bounce back in this game. Yeah. Um like I wasn't impressed with Canterbury in Vegas. Yep. And you like I I try not to look at the rosters, but like I go through that Canterbury side and I really dislike Canterbury.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Yeah, we we we we we have the same opinion on the Bulllocks, don't we? Yeah. Like you had them in your eight, I know, but I didn't. But we do agree. We look at their side and think it's yeah, it's not it's not a good roster. No, but they play good style of footy.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

It's a solid roster, but it's not they play a no-nonsense style of footy that wins you enough games.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Um but will it this year?

SPEAKER_04 47:25

Who knows? This is an important game, I think, uh for Canberra especially.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

Like they weren't impressive against Manley, they they got the win. They weren't they were terrible last week against New Zealand.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:34

You can't I don't think they can come out and give up a poor performance at home. Yeah. A game that they would have thought they'd like their chances here.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Yeah. You Yeah. I'm just trying to think. Haven't the Bulldogs not played for three weeks?

SPEAKER_04 47:50

Two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

Oh, they played in Vegas.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

Yeah. Next week off, then a buy.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

So does that and then they're playing that means they've had three weeks off.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

No, they've missed two weeks or 40, two rounds.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Yeah, but it still means they've had three weeks off.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

No, it doesn't. They're playing now.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

They played in Vegas. Yeah, on the Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

Yep. They missed the following week.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yep. So there's one week. They missed the following week. There's two weeks. They're not missing this week, but they're they haven't played for three weeks.

SPEAKER_04 48:19

No. They're playing this Thursday.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

But how many days haven't they played for?

SPEAKER_04 48:24

You're wrong. Keep going on.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to prove this. Right? So Sunday to Sunday is 14 days. Right? And they're playing on the Thursday. They haven't played for 19 days.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Haven't missed three weeks of footy party they've missed two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Yeah, they've missed two games round. Yes. But they haven't played for 19 days. So the vac 21 days is three weeks. They haven't played for 19 days. I'm close than you. No, no. So let's move on now. No, no, I'm not wrong.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

You're wrong. Okay, give me a tip.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Okay, Canberra. Um, I'm tipping Canberra, but not as confidently as you. I think they'll bounce back, but I'm not I I don't like that everyone thinks the Sherry thing might disrail the dogs a little bit. I think it might do the opposite. Especially if the mail I got is correct, maybe getting him out of there might be.

SPEAKER_04 49:11

He's good mate, he's really good mates with a few of those boys, but Jacob Caraz, Bailey Haywood, the younger fellows.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Yeah. Yeah. I'm tipping Canberra, but just. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

Uh the best six pm game, I think, in the history of the best six pm time slot game, I think, in the history of six pm games, Roosters, Penriff. Can you believe this is a six pm game? Normally we get New Zealand or Dart games on six pm Friday.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

That sounds like a seven uh an eight o'clock Friday off.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

I know, but the in in all due respect the Friday game is Melbourne Brisbane.

SPEAKER_04 49:42

At the start of the year, that's a bigger game than why not put that on f on Friday 7 30 Friday. No, well you're not gonna Or Sunday Arvo.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

Yeah, you move the Roosters. The Melbourne Penrith Brisbane game is the grand final. Yeah, yeah, I'm a happy. Sorry, that that's the main game of the weekend. Like, Roosters have finished eighth last year and they haven't been great great that well, they were okay the other day, but so I I argue that it's a better game than the eight pm game. But I'm with you, there should have been Sunday, four o'clock. Yeah?

SPEAKER_04 50:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Okay. Nineteen days, Bulldogs.

SPEAKER_04 50:11

I think geez, those both those games are clear. Liam Martin's back, Reese Robson's back. They're the two wins for both sides.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

That was surprising.

SPEAKER_04 50:18

Yeah, I was surprised. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Well, you know what? When when he broke the thumb and they said eight weeks, I'm thinking that won't be eight weeks. They never thumb's worse than a finger, obviously, but they're never out for eight. It's usually four to six max. So um someone came back last year with a broken was it no, I can't remember who it was, but they were back within two or three weeks as well. Yeah, right. Um so it didn't it surprised me, but it didn't surprise me, in if you know what I mean. But it'd be interesting to see how he slots in, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 50:46

Yeah, I'm I'm very interested to see how how they play with Reese Robson there. Um I thought the the other hooker, Ayelu, did well in his stint last week.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

He's looked a little bit better. I have to I've been no rap on him, but he's looked a little bit better.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

Yeah. Um and the role Connor Watson plays now as well.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

So have they named him on the bench with Connor Watson? No. So he's out he's out, he's in the eighteen or nineteen, is he?

SPEAKER_04 51:09

Yeah, I'll double check, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna he's the nineteenth.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

He's nineteen, so he's possibly come on, but he won't.

SPEAKER_04 51:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Actually, can can we just stop there for one second? One thing I didn't think of, just go back to the the review the review of the night's game, the six-man bench.

SPEAKER_04 51:26

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Just quickly on that, what did you think?

SPEAKER_04 51:29

Well, that that's a prime example of how it works. It works when it works.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

Yeah, okay, cool, go. But how it doesn't work is how it doesn't work, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

Cody Ramsey's on the six-man bench again, and he's not going to play on the season injury. So, how long do you do that before he plays games?

SPEAKER_01 51:42

I agree, agree. But it did show what it does to help in that Newcastle game. Because they would have had blokes everywhere. Brady Jones could have been at fullback. So uh anyway, go, sorry, I interrupted you.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

Um yeah, I first off I think it's a big test for Rooster, see if they can build on last week's performance against the benchmark, which is Penrith, and the side they've struggled against. They're at home. Uh uh, you know, they should go into this game thinking let's really show the competition what people think we could be and give it good performance. But Penrith have just been very clinical the first two weeks. Yeah. You know, doing the basics right, high completions, um, defending really well when a lot of teams are struggling with the increased six agains, and Roosers are not good at you know, their discipline's awful, their ball handling can be awful. If they rock up with a similar, you know, if they rock up similar to how they did New Zealand, they're then gonna get torched. Yeah. Um but if they can get into an arm wrestle and and go get it score a few points, then they they could beat Penrith.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

No hope getting in an arm wrestle with them. No one beats Penrith in an arm wrestle. You can't beat Penriss.

SPEAKER_04 52:47

But keeping the scores close. Yeah, I feel they're not gonna blow Penrith off.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

I feel the Roosters aren't ready for Penrith just yet. That's how I just feel the Roosters are still working out who they are. I think now Robson coming in is another change. Uh Penrith are just gonna do what Penrith do, and unless Penrith turn up and just drop a shitload of ball, I can't see the Roosters beating them. Just at this stage of the season, maybe later in the season when they've got it rolling. Um the only hope I've got um for them is if they play, I think the way to play them is through the middle and just try and bash down the front door, get Robson running, get Tedesco running. If they start trying to use Cherry Evans and Walker coming up with it's not gonna work. To me, you bash the front door down. That's the only way. And I you use White and you just I'd be going back to the system. What who they Spencer's not back, is he? No. Yeah, you know, late last year when they had the three big men, that's what they needed here, I I feel, and try and bash the front door down and just have Robson running, Tedesco running, and and that's the way to beat them. But I just feel they're probably not quite ready to beat Penrith. Although Penrith have been good two weeks in a row, probably ready to probably get beaten, but I just think the Roosters might be a few months off beating them just yet.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Yeah, non-biased opinion, I think Penrith win between eight to ten points. Yep. Uh between eight to twelve points, sorry. Um yeah, but I don't give Roosters no hope. I think definitely a chance to. I think Penrith's defensive systems will be just too good.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

I think Robo likes these challenges. And I think he's very good at mapping out a plan to beat these sides. So it gives me hope.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

Only like one and twenty-eight against Penrith in the last isn't that Melbourne? No, it's both of them.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Is it?

SPEAKER_04 54:33

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good game. Um next one's a good game as well. Well, well, yeah, it should be.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

Can I have my tip? Yeah, I'll give you Tip Penriff. Yeah, Tip Penrith. But but I I'm with ya. I don't give Russes no hope.

SPEAKER_04 54:44

Melbourne Broncos.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

Well, if it's a form, if if if on form, Melbourne should be a dollar ten. But I just got this feeling Brisbane might go down there.

SPEAKER_04 54:55

There needs to be a response from Brisbane.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

Yeah, I think there'll be a response now.

SPEAKER_04 54:58

If there's no response, if they come out and there's no response and they get torched, like 13 plus again, and they look awful defensively, then there's sound the sound the alarms. Yeah. Um I I think there'll be a response and they'll still lose the game because I think Melbourne will be well and truly up for this after the grand final. Yeah. Um and they're just playing better footy right now. Yeah. Um but Brisbane have to keep this game close. Yeah. And they truly need to try and keep it a low-scoring game if they can.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

I think they need to score first. I think they need to score first as well.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Losing Reynolds is gonna hurt.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

Is it?

SPEAKER_04 55:32

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

Well, off his two performances, I don't think it will.

SPEAKER_04 55:35

Well, the the the replacements haven't been playing great footy yet.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

No, no. But so what's it matter?

SPEAKER_04 55:39

Yeah. But again, like if Reese. Yeah, if Reese Walsh comes out and plays a blinder, then he can win the game on his own.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

There's just blokes in the side that need to pull their head out of their ass, and Ezra Man's won. Because he was horrendous the other night. Some of his efforts were awful. Catoni's been good. He's tried his heart out. Reese's I don't know where Reese's at. I really don't. I don't know. I'm worrying about Reese.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Gabbert Shibasaki's been dropped.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

Well, he's been dropped. Um but I I think there'll be a response, but I'm with you. I think it's just not going to be that Melbourne has just got Harry Grant got interviewed the other day and said that it's not in their back. Of course it's in their mind. What happened? So I think there'll be a response, but again, I won't be surprised if Melbourne smash him. Yeah, may either. I really don't know. I'm I think Melbourne and Morals, I just think they win. I've got no judgment on if it's tight, if it's big, because I think it could be either. Yeah. But if I'm with you, if they get torched.

SPEAKER_04 56:39

Yeah, there's there's problems. I'm not sure who they got the week after, but there's gonna be Dolphins or Cowboys, one of the Queen's own sides.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:46

Did you hear Dobbo's on Triple M on Sunday said that Grant Anderson, they the mail was Grant Anderson's gonna come in and play 5'8 for his remote.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

That can't happen, can it?

SPEAKER_04 56:56

Oh, they said that can't they Brent Reid said that can't be true.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

No, that can't be true. He did play 5'8 once for Melbourne though, I do remember, but I can't see that happening.

SPEAKER_04 57:03

Uh I think Melbourne win.

SPEAKER_01 57:04

Yeah, Melbourne win. Margin, no idea.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

14. Melbourne by 14. Okay. Alright. Yeah. Alright, Newcastle at home to New Zealand, Sunday, uh, Saturday, Arvo, 3 p.m.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

Yeah. Um, well, obviously the the the big elephant in the room here is no Dylan and no Kalen, um, which is a real shame. Fletcher Sharp returns at all. Fletcher Sharp Sharp returns at six, Sandon at seven, Fletcher Hunt at one, which is probably good. Fletcher Sharp coming back because it means they don't have to move Phoenix Crossland from nine. Um, so that does help. I think Newcastle will go down fighting and go down swinging, but I think having the two big guys out, maybe their lack of points might be a problem. Um one of these sides is gonna start three, you know. And and just so you know, Fletcher Sharp did PCL or MCL?

SPEAKER_02 57:59

Not sure.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

PCL, I'm pretty sure. That's the one Reese Walsh did last year. And remember when he came back, he was still he was playing, but he was limping, running and limping. I I think you're gonna get that with Fletcher Sharp. So it's gonna affect him big time as well. So I'll be surprised if he's a hundred percent. I I'd I I the way he went off, I I can't find him being a hundred percent. So would he have played if these two went out? I would say no. I would say no. What do you think they would have given him time?

SPEAKER_04 58:26

What have you made of Sandon Smith's first two weeks?

SPEAKER_01 58:28

Okay, like no, he's not jumping. Look he it was so good. I think he spots 14. I I just I I I find it no point of having him at seven. Unless it's now with injuries. But he's the perfect fourteen. He's there for cover, he can come on and do a roll at nine. Phoenix Crosslin works his ring out. He's not much chopped, but he works his ring out. He needs a rest, and Sandon comes on and gives him that flare. If something happens like last week, he just slots into the seven, they've trained with him there. He's the perfect fourteen. Unless something happens, the halves are brown and and sharp. Yeah, yeah. And Sandin at 14. Yeah. That's the way it is. But he's mate, he's he's probably paid for his wage already with what he's done for them the last few weeks.

SPEAKER_04 59:12

Yeah, well he came in slot in at six the first grade. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 59:15

So um it's been a really good signing for them. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

I think he's more than a handy football player.

SPEAKER_01 59:20

Yeah, he's definitely a first grader. Definitely.

SPEAKER_04 59:22

Um pickies at fullback, he comes in for Sharms. Yeah. Um just quickly going through, see if there's any other changes.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Hansen's at six.

SPEAKER_04 59:33

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Hansen's at six. So there's some changes.

SPEAKER_04 59:36

So that's right, I think I got concussed in.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

Correct. So there's some big changes here.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

You know, so you know much about this Hansen book?

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Not really. Not really. I don't know much. So um This will be a good game. It will be, 'cause there's gonna be thirty thousand Novo Castrians and and th they'll be up for not wanting to let them down.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

You know, so the more I'm thinking about this, I'm starting to think that Newcastleana's gone as I first thought they were gonna be in trouble.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:09

Yeah. Chanel Harris Davido's.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

Well, even Chance is not our fate one of our favourites, but he's he is an effort player. Yeah, he's a handy replacement. He's a he's a yeah, he is. Um different type of player. Um probably not as rock solid as Chance, but he's got more flair. Um I don't know. I'm I'm starting to I'm going Warriors.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

I just think they'll have too much through the middle.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

For Newcastle to handle.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

Yeah, I will tip the Warriors. No confidence. Warriors. Yeah. Yep. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:51

530, your two favourite football sides, uh Sharks, Dolphins.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

Yeah, okay. Um again, off last week's performance, how could you tip the Dolphins? Very hard to tip the Dolphins. You know what you're gonna get from Cronella at Shark Park. I think Cronella just win. I actually looked at the market and it and they were $1.43. I actually thought it was a fair price.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:13

Yeah, I I based on last week you couldn't take the Dolphins. That looks diabolical. They weren't good the first week as well. Sharks at home, this is similar to the first week. I think it's a game that chronologists should get care of. They seem to just take care of these.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:28

Coming off a loss as well. Cronulla coming off a loss, I think, is dangerous too.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

They seem to just be able to beat these sides every time they come up against them.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

Well, had some issues with the Dolphins of late, but I I I just can't take the performance of the Dolphins out of me.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

Yeah, unless they're they've turned it around big time in a week, yeah, they're not gonna have enough to beat them.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

No, I I don't think we need to talk much about we're both chipping Crenella.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:51

Um this game I'm I'm looking forward to. This is a I like this this 730 game.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

What's the 730 game?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:58

Upper Gosford Bunnies West Tigers.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

Yeah, well I I'll be I I yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

Two sides that um got a bit of points in them with with with some of their players, but I think it'd be a very attacking game, not much defence, and I think that we could be in for a bit of a track.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

Few changes. Um Jamie Humphreys comes in, no Taylor May for the Tigers.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

Yeah, so Gerald Skelton.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

He's in the centre, yes. They they're starting to run short of outside back. So Stafford Toa's still not there. Now they've lost Taylor and May. Yeah. So they're starting to run a bit short. Um so it wouldn't surprise me Bronson Cherry ended up there.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:38

Peter Mamazulas and Sullivan are in the 17.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Peter Mamazoulos is He was good the first two weeks. He's been really good. Yeah. He he he has a he wasn't one that I was totally fussed, but he's been really good. I agree. I thought he's been really good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

So uh this is a good game to see if the Tigers can back up a performance. Um really good last week. And again, Bunny's if they can turn it around, especially like Cody. I thought Latrell's first half was good, second half not so good. Um you know both teams will want to go out here early, round three, and I think try and get a win. This is a game they'll both be eyeballing as oh yeah, we can win this game.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

But who do I think will win?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

I think West Tigers.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

I'm with you. Yeah I'm tipping the Tigers. I'm tipping the Tigers. I'm tipping the Tigers. No one I want them to win. Number two is I think South might be a letdown from that game the other night. Might be this that following week letdown. And I think the Tigers can get him.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:36

Yeah. Bennett will have them probably go, but because he wasn't very happy about everything on Friday night.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

Yeah, you saw him come in the sheds at halftime and give him a bit of a rev-up, didn't you?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:45

I thought his his comments in the press conference were pretty poor as well. Yep. Wayne.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

Tigers for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

Yep, Tigers as well, just Parramatta. Uh Sunday IVO, 4 p.m. Parramatta at home to the Red V. I think this was the game last year, their first win when Lomax kicked the field goal. Yep. Um everything again is pointing to a Parramatta win after their performance last week. They're at home first home game in the season. Uh if the weather's nice, I think there'll be points are plenty from Parra. Um do I give Dragons a hope in this game? I don't. I think Parramatta I think Parramatta are a lock at home. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:24

Okay, this is the upset of the week for me. Oh, so you're the opposite. I think the dragons will beat him. Yeah, I think that's I think there's an upset coming here. Um I haven't liked what Parramatta, even though they went up there last week, I didn't like what I saw. I think the Red V have tried really hard, and I just think they can go there and get the job done. I think they beat didn't they beat him there last year, didn't they? Was it last year when they had the massive lead and Parramatta came back?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:48

Lomax got the field goal last year.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Oh, that wasn't the year before. Yeah, I I I I I don't know. I've just got uh you know, sometimes you look at the game and you think I can smell an upset. This is the one I smell an upset. Because everyone's gonna tip para and uh I am going for the upset here, I am tipping the red V, and it's through effort. I just think they're gonna get out there, try their rings off, and I think it'll be enough.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:08

I think that yeah, if that they'll be hoping for a wet Sunday Avo that brings them closer to the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

There's any rain coming, I don't think. I think the next day or two there is, but not.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

I think it's e I think if it's nice weather and a fast track, I think Parrow just gonna have too many points in him.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:21

Yeah, well there's one. Is that the first one we've disagreed on? Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna tip the upset. I'm tipping the dragons.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:26

Now we thought last Sunday uh night's game was bad. Dolphins, Titans. This could be worse. This is Cowboys Titans at Townsville.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

Yeah. Well, I'll I'll start with this one. I'm tipping another upset. I'm tipping the Titans here. I I can't tip the Cowboys with what I've seen. Um I thought the Titans tried really hard. It's similar to the last game we talked about. I think effort Titans really put a big effort. The big key here is Jaden Campbell. He's on the extended bench. If he plays, and to me he's not there unless he's gonna play, if he goes into that side, I think they've they've got enough in their side to beat. The cowboys up there. Worries me a little bit. First home game, they'll get a big crowd, all that c there needs to be a response, which is usually something I gravitate to, like to the team with that kind of thing, but they've just been dreadful. And I I just can't tip 'em. And I just saw enough from the Titans last week that I felt the that there was a response off the the hammering they copped in round one. And I think with Jaden Campbell returning, if he returns, I think they can get the job done up there.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

Yeah. If Cowboys lose their first three games to the Knights, the Tigers and the Titans, yeah, I think they're getting a spoon. I think they need like they need to come out and they should they should be looking at this game thinking they'll win at home to the Gold Coast. As you said, they'll get a big crowd. If they lose, then blokes and the coaches' heads gotta be on the chopping box. There's got to be answers. You can't keep dishing up garbage performances. Yeah. For a club like that that's got a loyal fan base that probably deserves a winning football team up there. Yeah. Um shit. Tip. Go on cowboys. No confidence. Just cowboys. Yeah. Because the Titans are diabolical as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:13

Yeah. Okay. Did you go Cowboys? I wasn't listening. Sorry, I was thinking about what we're doing next.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:18

You're looking at me, but you weren't listening.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:19

No, I wasn't listening. Okay. So you tip cowboys? Cowboys. Yeah, I'm tipping Titans in an upset. Is that the end of our games for the weekend?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:28

That is the Manly Sea Eagles get a win, they got the bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Yeah. I'm surprised you think the Cows will get this. I I'd be confident with Manley too.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

I think if they lose these first three games to those sides, they're no chance of beating some of these other sides. No chance.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:42

Yeah. Yeah, but they'll beat someone.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:44

They've had an easy run to start with.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Alright, so um just one thing I want to talk about to the Newtown fans. We're gonna um I'm just gonna quickly do a quick review of their performance on Saturday. Jax, I'm gonna pass you my phone. And they're the viewers' questions, so you want to sort them out while I do this. Um so uh Newtown went out to St. Mary's and played Penrith, and I did mention this game last week. Newtown were really, really good last week. Um Nevi Puru, who actually picked up an ankle injury, was really good. He looks ready for first grade, Newar Pouru. Um but Newtown were dominant. Uh Michael Gabriel again, very good. Uh there was a few there that were really good. Uh Penrith, I'm not sure about Penrith lower grade. They haven't been good for the first three rounds, in the first two rounds in the new New South Wales Cup. Um, and again, they were they were really taken to the cleaners by Newtown. Um Niwa Puru, who's been on the extended bench of the Sharks uh team, he looks ready. He looks ready for first grade. Um as soon as there's an injury, he'll definitely be the one that's uh called up into the side. Um still no Liam Ison. Um getting no mail about Liam Ison. So if anyone um in the Newtown supporters group has any mail on Liam Ison, um he's come off the ACL, but supposedly he was going to play in a trial and didn't play, and he's now out again. So I'm not really sure what's going on there. But um when he goes back in the side, I think they'll be up for a good year, Newtown. So um it's really good. I saw them s sing their team song. It it's it's it's so good watching that that old uh jersey still going around. So um so all the Newtown supporters, I think there's another week before we go to Henson. Um so keep following the Newtown boys guys and get behind them. Viewers, questions? Yeah, we've got a couple here.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:41

Um from Katie, is it time for Sloan to move to fullback? Gutho to 5-8.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

I don't know, Katie. Um I I I I've called for Gutho to 5'8 for a while. Um I think and it's not because I think he's a gonna be a good 5-8, I just think he's better than what they've got. Um is Sloan the answer to go back to one? I think not. I think Val's the one that should be going back to one. So to me, Gutho to six, Val to one is the way I'd go. Sloane he's a hard one. What do you make of Sloan? See he he's got he's got a bit of X Factor and and you feel that they need it, but GZ lets him down with some shit efforts and stuff. He's a hard one. Like they need X Factor.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:30

They need a lot. They need X Factor in one, six, seven, and nine.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:34

That's right, and they've got none. No. And and you look at their wingers, Setu 2 and and and the money man, uh Christian to equal to all big. They're a bit like the Warriors, they're all big outside backs. There's no speed, there's no X Factor. Like Val.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

Gutho's not getting moved to six.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:49

I know, I know, but he should. I I I I'm with you, Katie. I think Gutha to six, but I think Val to one. It's simple as that for me. Yeah. And I'm I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen, but I'm just saying I said at the start of the year, that should be the way they go out. But it's not gonna happen. Is he gonna go, Flanagan, at any point? Carl? Yes. He's gotta. If they lose five or six on the trot, he has to go. He's gotta do something. We'll see. It's JC. Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

Alright, next question from King Mitch. Do you think the celebrations hurt South's momentum in the game on Friday? I personally think it did, and that it hurt the attacking side of things. Uh for us, we just jammed it left every attack and went right once and scored. But I don't really care because I got to run on the field.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:35

Okay, what who was it? King Mitch. King Mitch. King Mitch. Um Well, I think Wayne Bennett definitely thought it it hurt them because the way he came down and spoke to them, so I'm I uh uh he'd know more than me, so I'm saying yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:50

Um the reason about the going the right, I think it was because what I said earlier in the show that when Jack went there, it changed things. As soon as Jack went to six, it changed things. Um and again it's very similar to the dragons I said at the start of the year. I think White and needs to be the sixth at the club. It gives them a threat on both sides of the field then. And you have Cody playing on the left, that doesn't move, you have Jack playing on the right, and there's a danger on both sides if you've got that. Jack White and Campbell Graham at right centre. Like you're worried both sides at the moment, you're not worried on the right. Yeah, you know, and so with Mitch, I I I I think it definitely holded their momentum, uh, but I do think that Jack needs to go to six on that right side again. As Jack said with Gutho, I don't it's not gonna happen. Yeah. But it's in my opinion, that's would be the best thing. Yeah. Quick opinion.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:37

Yeah, I agree. And just quickly on South fans that seem to say, oh, we don't we don't care about the results. We've got to run on the field and AJ broke the record. You do care about the results, you're just talking rubbish. AJ scoring a try, who cares, mate? Like, yeah, it was good, but you didn't get the two points. Rooster's one, um, you weren't good enough. Move on. Whack move on, mate.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:57

Going whack. Uh you miss you missed a question at the top. Was there another one? Archer Queen. Oh, right. So our old favourite, Archer Queen, our Melbourne supporters. Oh, hang on. What are your thoughts on the Raiders after last week's blowout against them? It was not a Melbourne question. She's fired up, Archer Green.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

Sort of touched on that, didn't we?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:14

We we did touch on it, Archer Green, if you listened earlier, which I'm sure you would have. Um concerning, but I think I think their first two weeks are concerning. I I don't think it was just them getting blown out over there. I I thought the performance against Manley was poor, even though they won. Um and I think that form line out of that game, as I said earlier, shown that that game was a very, very poor game, that Canberra Manley game. Um there's a concern, definitely there's a concern, if they don't win this week, there's alarm bells ringing for mine for Canberra.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:47

Yeah, I yeah, they need to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:49

Even though it's not an easy game this weekend, they need to aim up here this week, Canberra. So um, yeah, I think there is this week will tell a lot where Canberra are at. If Canterbury go down there and beat them, Canberra, I'm a little bit concerned for Canberra.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:02

Yeah, I tend to agree. They need to get a good performance out. Uh we've got a couple of comments on YouTube. I'm wondering if there's a question.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

Oh, I didn't even get it. Look, I didn't even look. Have we heard from Trav?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:14

No, we haven't heard from Trav. We're not hearing from Trav. Come on, Trav. Trav's gone, mate.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:18

Um do you remember just on Trav, what was the bet I had with him? I know one Cowboys to beat It was Cowboys to beat Tigers home. And I said bottom eleven or uh I said they won't finish in the top eleven, and he took Yeah, something like that. And the Cowboys to beat the Tigers home. He's in all He's gone. You'll just tell me when you want my bank details, Trav.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:38

Alright, so we've got a question from uh Ben Lewin. Oh yeah. Well there's a big comment. I'm trying to find if there's a question in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

I agree with Quality TV.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:49

Alright. He agrees with it. It was our take on the referee officiating through the first couple of weeks last week. He goes, I agree that the bad start to the officials in round one. When the referees make a call without any reasons, given why, uh example the six agains, and that they can have such a massive impact on who wins and loses, it creates fans questioning the games being rigged or fixed. If the NRL is happy to take our money, uh take as much money as they do from gambling on their product, they must come up with a way to explain these runs of decisions or simply get rid of six again rule altogether.

unknown 1:15:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

Six again rule Where do I start? Yeah, you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:26

Uh they're out of control. Yeah. They're out of control. There's too many.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:30

The obsession, as I said it the other week, the obsession with the hierarchy of the NRL to keep the ball in play, and that's why the six again's are brought in, is out of control. It needs to stop. The the game is fast enough as it is. It didn't need this tweak where you now don't get a penalty unless you're in, you're 20, unless it's foul play.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:53

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:53

Alright? There's no stoppages in the game anymore. Right? It's too the game's too far, uh getting too fast. Yeah. Um and the six again is just crazy. You don't know what they're for because you just move on. Yeah. Um and I feel like the ref would they probably do blow it to control momentum in the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:09

Yeah. I agree. I agree. So we we I I can't, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:14

I know what was wrong back in the game. What was wrong with penalties? I I did anyone have a problem when there was penalties?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

No. No. I I feel this is the first year for a while that we've gone two weeks and I've thought, you know what, the referee has been really poor. I think the last few years I haven't felt like that, but this year I have. I felt it's just not good. It's not good. The six again's I've hated this. Would you have them gone?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:39

Gone. Go back to penalties.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

Why the obsession keeping the ball in place?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:44

Well you see Deirdon. I saw Deirdon the other day blowing up, going, don't even know what they're for. It's ludicrous. Don't even know what they're for. Yeah. So it's shit. Yeah. So does Benny want them gone too?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:53

Yeah. I want them gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

Yeah. I was asking what Benny wanted.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:56

Can we be outplaying for 19 days? Three weeks.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:59

Pete Beaman. Alright, we I'll just read the whole comment. Hey guys, just worked out what the worst 2025 Christmas present was. A season pass to watch Manly. Bang, there he goes, straight into Manley. Um they were not even close to being shit house.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:14

This was based on last week's performance. This wasn't what we just was a quit after against Canberra? Yeah. Oh. Is he a Manley supporter, Pete Beaman? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:22

Talk about talk about a club that's in a don't give a talk about a club that are in the don't give a fuck, meaning I think their their players don't care. Yeah. Oh no, this was Newcastle game. And to be fair, Newcastle weren't exactly a premiership side material. Um what do you uh yeah, basically, what do we think on Manley?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:40

Oh well, we've already said it, Pete. They're cooked. Yeah. They're cooked. They need a complete they need a new coach. Yeah. They need a whole, they need to get rid of the And they're just the last part. Jake's gotta go. I'm sorry, Jake, everyone loves Jake. And but honestly, he's a passenger. Yeah, Jake's Jake's you know we had two runs for 13 metres the other day.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:01

Yeah, not good. Um and just the last bit of his comment was um and Yeah, alright, this is a dig at Velandis and Abdo and the used car salesman and the blow torture bringing two extra teams in. What do you think uh with the depth? He thinks it's unbelievable. That we're bringing in two new sides and the sides getting torched already.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:23

Yeah, I agree. I d it's just gonna weaken the competition. It's just you know, you can just see it already. Well w we're in all sorts, not in all sorts, but we're losing players left, right, and centre. You know, it's gonna happen to every club.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:36

You already know my opinion on Perth for next year.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:39

Yeah, yeah, but but what what it's gonna do, it's it's it's gonna dilute the other clubs. It's already diluting Cronella, and it's probably the worst effect at the moment, who they've lost. And there could be it looks like McGuinness is gone as well. I'm I'm tipping Kennedy's gonna be going somewhere as well. That's five from Cronulla gone. And it's not just gonna be Cronulla, I'm not just saying this is Cronulla, it's the other clubs as well. The same thing's gonna happen. Connor Watson's on the radar, the Bears and the Pennsylvania. Yeah, so you know, like Cronella has lost Talakai, Vale, uh, I'm tipping McGuinness, Kennedy are gonna be gone, you know. It's probably lucky that Calhoun didn't go. It's but it's gonna happen to all clubs. It's gonna happen. And what it does is you're gonna be. But does that not bring the pack closer as well, but yeah, but it dilutes the it dilutes the quality of the game, doesn't it? When you've got blokes that are usually playing New South Wales Cup, they're gonna be playing first. Correct, yeah. So it dilutes the quality of the game. So uh yes, it will it it it will bring some of the sides closer, but it's also gonna it's not gonna be as good as they rule.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:39

Have they rushed this, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:40

I feel that I feel they have to be able to do that. Well I'm surprised they brought one in and then one straight after it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:45

Have they backed themselves into a corner to now make it even and bring a 20th side in?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:50

It's gonna be tough. I agree, you know, but I I think one side, I think if they brought one side in, so basically what you said, I think could have got away with it. Because folks come in these days into first grade, and I'm gonna say one out of every two, you think, oh, this guy's a first grader. You know what I mean? So I feel that there was probably enough quality underneath that to fill one. Probably could have filled one side, not two. Yeah. Definitely not three. Yeah. So uh I think they're gonna have to be searching elsewhere for players. Because there's no way, and if you go out and watch the New South Wales Cup, which I do, um, it's a long way below par. Yeah. And and I'm telling you that uh I watched the Newtown Penrith game the other day. Two blokes? I reckon. Probably you could go, I think that handle first grade if they went up, it'd be and and I'm stretching it too. Yeah, right. Do you know what I mean? It's not like you go and go, fucking look at this bloke, look at this bloke. Yeah, like you know, um and I reckon four years ago when I was watching it, I was thinking, oh fuck, this guy's ready for first grade. Like there was like you had your Stone Street, your KLI, because obviously I watched Newtown some Cornella supporter, your K and you were watching them going, geezy if this bloke gets a chance, he's ready.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:09

I watched that game the other day and I went, wow, uh Niwa Puru, maybe. And there was one bloke, oh well Jesse McLean looks like he's probably gonna get there. Apart from that, I didn't look at anyone and go, shit, this bloke's this bloke's good to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

So so um it's a worry, definitely. Yeah, definite worry. So alright, what have we got next? Uh with viewers' questions. Uh load up, guys, tipping comp. You're in our tipping comp, but there's another one called Load Up. Now it goes week to week. So you don't, doesn't matter if you've missed the first few weeks, there's a weekly prize. So get on loadup.gg. So Google it, get in that tipping comp. Free to join cash prizes every week. Um, and I think that's about it for the show. Is there anything we've missed?

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SPEAKER_01 1:21:56

We have missed something. Bearbet podcast. Bet of the week. We need to announce it. Uh yes, yes. So our bet of the week that we always pop up, it's up there on the website now with Bearbet. So uh there's inflated price there, guys. Um the bet is this week uh we have Canberra minus one and a half Canberra minus one and a half. In the Melbourne to win. In the Melbourne to win. In the New Zealander win. In the which I don't know what I've done now. In the New Zealander win. Into Gold Coast plus ten and a half. In Gold Coast plus ten and a half, which I'm confident with that leg. It's the Warriors League, I'm not confident. Uh, we've put up what price?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:30

Seven bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:31

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SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

Yes, very good. So guys, I think I can get three of them up. Um we're one from three.

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