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Emiliano Vargas GOES SAVAGE On Ryan Garcia | Mr Verzace Podcast | EP. 17
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Emiliano Vargas joins the latest edition of Mr. Verzace Podcast. Vargas opens up about growing up in a boxing family, his future in boxing and his thoughts on Ryan Garcia.
Welcome back to the Mr. Versace Podcast. I'm your host, Mr. Versace himself, Rick Reno, and joining me today is one of the hottest prospects in the sport 2025 Ring Magazine prospect of the year, Emiliano Vargas. Emiliano, obviously famous father, Fernando Vargas, multi-division world champion. How early on did you know boxing was what you wanted to do for the rest of your life?
SPEAKER_01Well, first and foremost, thank you for having me. Um, you know, I gotta give my Versace game up, no doubt. You know, you let them fly, man. Uh I would see the fights and be like, who's this guy, man? He's he's fly. I I gotta meet him, so I'm glad I got to meet you. Uh, I know we last time we we uh at the ring awards. Yeah, we got to see each other at the ring awards. That was an amazing event, amazing time, minus the the uh negative one degree temperature. But uh, you know, it was an amazing night. Uh, but yeah, no, definitely coming back to your question. Uh at the age of 10 years old, my my father took me to some amateur fights here in Vegas, and um I fell in I I told my dad, I said, I want to do that. He was like, Ah, you don't want to do that. I was just a chubby kid who liked to eat and um you know, uh Mexican parties or whatever, just you know, all I'd be doing was eating, right? So I'm a little hefty. But uh, you know, he was like, Well, if you remind me, um, you know, after school, I'll take you. So fast forward, I was like, Dad, are we going to the boxing gym? And you know, that was all she wrote. So, you know, since then and honestly, winning my first amateur fight, I fell in love with just winning. Uh fell in love with the sport, fell in love with um the whole process, you know. And I remember being a young kid, and even when I was cutting weight and I was hungry, you know, my dad, my dad would tell me like this, he said, you know, you could eat that burger. I mean, I'm not gonna be the one running, you know. So it it teaches you discipline. Um, I remember being a young kid, and I would have to make weight, obviously, for the fight, and I would go into the pantry and be like, uh, I'm just gonna grab one fruit loop and just go to bed. So it instills discipline in you. And, you know, like I said, since I won my first amateur fight, uh I fell in love with the sport, then my first national title, then seven of those, and being part of the USA team and you know, turning pro is just um I love what I do and I'm blessed to do it.
SPEAKER_00Who put their foot in first? Was it you or your your both of your brothers went into boxing? Who was the first one who said, I'm gonna go into? Were they already in it when you jumped in?
SPEAKER_01I mean, look, we we've always been around the sport because my father, right? Um during Christmases, somebody would always end up with a bloody nose. We'd always, you know, be fighting. But as far as the sport, uh I decided to do it first. My first training for my first amateur fight and everything else. Um, you know, and then, you know, as I was winning all these national tournaments and everything, my brother and mother was like, you know what, I'm gonna do this. If my little brother's doing it, I'm gonna do it, you know, because we're all competitive, right? So that happened. And then uh my brother Junior, he just was in the gym just because uh he wanted to look good, man. Being be in shape, we opened up our boxing gym, so it was at our disposal. Um, so I mean, we all kind of fell in love with the sport, and we we we found out that you know what, um we can make a uh a good living off of this, no doubt.
SPEAKER_00Given that your dad has seen the good side of the sport and the bad side of the sport, and your mom had to live through your dad's career, that either one of them try to discourage you or your brothers, or kind of say, eh, you know, maybe you should have something on the as a backup instead of trying to go this route. I mean, I'm gonna be real with you.
SPEAKER_01If I were to do dance, my mother and father would support me, you know, and uh that's just the way they are. I come from a great home. Um I I stand on the shoulders of my mother and my father at the end of the day. So uh, you know, whatever it was, they would support us. But at the same time, um my mother never discouraged me. My father never discouraged me, but he told me if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it 120%. If he saw that I wasn't, you know, giving 120%, he would tell me to leave it alone because you'd get hurt. And the same thing goes for my brothers, you know, it's like uh the day that I see them not giving 120%, you know, when you're in training camp and you're not get you know pushing on the miles, you're not pushing, you know, just the discipline or whatever, then you know I'm gonna tell them, hey, leave it alone, bro. You know, you can get really hurt in the sport. And uh, you know, uh a couple weekends ago, if not this past weekend, there was that that uh female boxer who was in a coma.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, so things like that, man. I would that would kill me to see my brother. I'd be the first one to throw in the towel, you know. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is it tough to be at ringside when you see your two brothers fight and vice versa?
SPEAKER_01There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do. I just gotta sit there and watch and uh do my best to instruct my brother to, you know, lead him to a victory. So um I've had great memories with my brothers. I mean, we just went to Dubai, my brother fought um uh with Misfits, deemed the great out there, and it was uh it was an amazing experience. I got to be out there and just see the world, man. Um, I told my brothers boxing took us around the world, you know, and it and it continues to amaze us, and um, I'm just so so grateful.
SPEAKER_00Your dad had uh, you know, marvelous career. He fought everybody from De La Hoya, Corte, Trinidad, Winky Wright, Mosley, you could go on and on with every name that was around his era. Uh, but I know he's always said in some interviews that he may have faced some of those guys too soon. Does that that he sort of give you advice about, you know, don't rush yourself, take your time, even if the the big bag is on the table, you know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, like I'm my father's son, right? So the same blood that flows through him flows through me. So I'm all I'm all about making the big fights happen. And I know that uh everything in due time. Um but regardless, I mean, we're we're in the process of trying to make some some big fights happen. I mean, uh, I mean, uh, you know, it's in the talks. I'm know you've seen it. Yeah. Um, and and those are the type of things that I I want to do. I want to show the world what I'm about. I want to show uh everyone what I can do, right? And you know, it it the same process that I'm going through, the same process that uh these other champions have gone through, you know, it's just a process, but I I want to fight the best, I want to fight Cambosa, I want to fight Richardson Hitchens, all these guys who are in my weight class uh who have a belt. I'm open to it, you know. But uh my dad has definitely gave me his two cents, and um I have the utmost respect for my father. So I take everything he tells me uh into account. Um, but at the end of the day, I make the decisions, you know, and I'm grateful to my father to allow me to uh be my own man, you know, because in in the sport of boxing, you have some people who or some father trainers who they try to micromanage them or manage their whole career, you know, and um you gotta let the fighter be the fighter, you know. So that's just what I believe, and I'm grateful, like I said, in my dad that he allows me to do that. So I mean, like I said, I'm a father's son. I want to make the big fights happen, and uh, I think I think we'll be able to make some this year, no doubt.
SPEAKER_00You know, you're a guy who likes to stay busy, right? And you were top rank, top rank just signed, you know, a deal with the zone. Does that provide more stability to you for your career, you know, because they didn't have a deal for a long time with ESPN ended, and you were kind of like floating wherever they could fit you in.
SPEAKER_01I mean, look, um, top rank did the best in the business. They are boxing, they are the most long-standing history of boxing. So, I mean, we knew they'd find a deal. Uh, as far as the business side, we I believe in loyalty. You know, I believe in, you know, uh treating people the way you should be treated or you want to be treated, right? Uh, and I believe that with top rank as well, I knew they'd get something together, but in the meantime, they were gracious enough to let me fight on other cards and other things like that. So keeping me busy because the main thing for me is activity. Yeah, so that was a big thing for sure. But I'm happy that you know, obviously, it's on everything, pretty much all the promoters are on the zone now, so we could definitely make big fights happen. And I mean, it's it's great for the fans, and um, I still haven't gotten my my free subscription yet. So I gotta I I gotta talk to somebody, Jeremy, somebody from Top Bray.
SPEAKER_00You know, speaking of stepping up, one of your stable mates, Xander Zayas, yeah, man, uh, is stepping up into a really big fight with Jeron Ennis. It seems to be like if he wins, that's like the next level for him. Yep. Uh very tough contest. What's your thoughts about the fight?
SPEAKER_01What are my thoughts? Uh Xander is gonna have to pull something out of him that he's never pulled out. I think that uh he's gonna rise to the occasion. I think Boots is a very skilled fighter, fights Southpaw, Orthodox, can box, can punch. Um, you know, but I haven't really seen him in there with anybody that can really go to the body, you know. So I think maybe if Xander can go to the body and, you know, maybe like a Miguel Cotto type of real, real tight, real in the pocket, and uh not let Boots dance around and box and do what he wants to do, then I think Xander has a has a great shot of uh of beating him, you know, and he's two-time champion. Yeah, so I mean he doesn't really need to take the fight, but he's doing it. Um, you know, and that's a a huge card that I love to be on. So um hopefully I was gonna ask you that next. Could we possibly see you on that card? Yeah, we're we're yeah, we're working something out. Uh you know, we're we're trying to talk and see who who we could have uh as my opponent for that one. So um, you know, I want a former world champion, my next fight. And if if they agree, cool. If they don't, then you know, we're we're gonna try to uh up the level regardless.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you're in a pretty loaded division. I mean, there's names you got Shakur, Keyshawn, Dalton Smith, Hitchens, uh you know, you could go on and on. Is there anyone that you see out of that group, guys like Russell, where you say to yourself, I could beat that guy right now?
SPEAKER_01I wouldn't be in the right sport if I didn't believe that I could beat each and every one of them, you know. And whether the fans believe it, whether, you know, you believe it, it doesn't matter to me. Because at the end of the day, it's what I believe. And, you know, I would be in the wrong sport. I'd get hurt. I can't go into the press conference and be like, well, you know, uh, maybe uh no. I I I sacrificed, I did everything necessary to get to this point, and and I'm gonna shine. And you know, I I believe in in three things. I believe in, you know, uh God, I believe in my work ethic and my God-given ability last. You know, I believe I was blessed with natural abilities, but I believe that lasts, you know. So I walk into every fight like that, supremely confident because of what I've put in, who I serve, and at the end of the day, what I was born with. But um I I would love any of the fights. I know Richard Hitchens was talking on on Twitter or X. Um I would love to make that fight happen. In a perfect world, I'd love to fight Cambosis, then Hitchens, um, and then we see where we go from there, you know. I but I want a world title, I want to fight these guys. Um, I know they want to uh you know fight another champion for a bigger payday, you know, that money gets involved and things like that. But you know, at the end of the day, I'm I'm where they were at my age, you know, and and I believe it. I truly believe I could beat any of those fighters. So um that's where my head's at, and and uh I believe that wholeheartedly.
SPEAKER_00You know, a lot of experts and a lot of guys who've been in the ring with him, they feel probably Shakur has the most complicated style out of the bunch. You as a guy who's in the gym in the ring, do you see him out of those that whole bunch of guys as he's probably got the most complex style, the puzzle you gotta solve?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. I think every fighter has a different um approach that you have to take towards them. Shakur looked amazing in his last fight. I honestly surprised uh me and uh a lot of other people, so I give my kudos to him. But at the end of the day, I understand that uh the right time, God already has a pick, you know. So if if we were to uh fight with Shakur down the line or whatever, um, you know, you would have to obviously solve that puzzle, you know. And uh honestly, uh Teo Fimo was doing a great job when he was going to the body. And you know, he he really after that, like he'd had his his moments to the body, and then uh Shakur would keep him on the outside. So I think definitely um, you know, and Shakur even said it himself. He he got hit with a body shot one time that he wanted to throw up. You know, I I've been hit to the body before, you know, and and it don't doesn't feel good. So uh I think for every fighter, the body shots, no, no fighter likes body shots, but yeah, he looked great his last fight. Um that's definitely a fighter that you know uh is a tricky puzzle for sure.
SPEAKER_00You know, you have very good frame, good size to you. Do you think you'll stick around at 140 until you get one of those big fights? Or if these guys I believe so.
SPEAKER_01I think um I'm I'm making weight is making weight, right? Um making 140 is still you know making weight, but I understand that you know it's better than making 135. I was making 137 and I I could barely make the weight. Uh and then, you know, imagine fighting for a world title 135 um and then staying there, and I don't want to lose my butt on the scale. I don't want to uh, you know, my dad said it all the time. I made weight every single time. It doesn't matter if I was dead or they had to carry me out of the sauna, I made the weight, you know, and and so that's the experience that you were talking about as well that my father carries at the end of the day because you know, he lived it. The the peaks, the valleys, the all of it. He's lived it. So uh I I walk in there supremely confident with that experience behind me as well. So um I just understand that you know why not use it to my advantage, you know, as my dad's done it. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well I'm sure that's probably one of the bigger lessons your dad gave to you is about cutting weight because I recall towards the tail end of his career, he just started growing. Yeah. And he just started going up. And I remember there was one fight.
SPEAKER_01Uh he lost a hundred pounds for one fight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I remember the smosy fight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I remember they kept like upping the weight of the catch weight, yeah, and it kept going up and up. And you, you know, you heard all these talks behind the scenes that it was just you know, he had just gotten so big that between fights it was hard for him to cut the weight.
SPEAKER_01So I like, I mean, that's part of the discipline, right? Um, I stay maybe 10, 12 pounds away from my weight all the time. Uh I love to be in shape. I love I'm in shape year-round, you know. I like it's summertime. I like to take off my shirt, you know, be out, whatever. But uh, you know, it's the discipline part, and I think Floyd really instilled that into this new generation. Um to where I could talk for myself, to where I love being in the gym, I love being close to my weight, and I don't I don't gotta cut 15 pounds before my fight, you know, because once you pull all the water from your body, you're pulling from your brain, you know, and then you you have no protective barrier from these punches. So that's why it's so much easier for these guys to get knocked out and they wonder why. Oh, what happened to my chin? It's the way you prepare yourself, you know, it's the way you cut the weights everything. Uh when you're fighting at the highest level, it comes down to uh centimeters, you know, uh what he did and what I didn't do, you know, or what I did and what he didn't do. So it that's what it comes down to. And I understand that it doesn't matter who I'm fighting. I understand that I walk in there um knowing that I crossed every box and knowing that I did everything necessary. And, you know, if you drank or you smoke or you partied in the last 10 years, I'm already ahead of you. I I did what you weren't able capable of doing.
SPEAKER_00So now obviously your dad was your hero when you were growing up. He still is. Were there any other fighters when you were growing up that you saw where you either like their style, like how they put their punches together, followed their career a little bit?
SPEAKER_01Roy Jones. Love Roy Jones, uh, is a savage man. Uh, I would watch his training videos all the time on YouTube uh with his song Can't Be Touched, Can't Be, you know. Uh, I would run with that too. So I think I've always been a student of the game. Definitely Chavez, definitely uh Canelo. Canelo, I've I grew up. I remember I was at the Ring Awards and seeing uh Canelo and Triple G talking. I was like, what in the world? Like, bro, like that I remember being a kid and seeing them fight, and like they're all they're just chopping it up and talking with each other and hugging it out. And I was like, man, like, you know, obviously Triple G looks a little older, Canelo, you know, look a little older, but uh man, I was just tripping out, and I think that's why I got a little emotional on the stage because of the fact that like, man, these guys are my heroes, man, and I'm in the same room as them, you know. So um definitely Canelo. Um I I would still love to train with him, still love to uh be in a training camp, or maybe one of his his cards, if uh you know how many fights he got, you know. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, um one guy in particular that you've had some words with came out of left field and got people a little bit excited is Ryan Garcia, who's one division above you, world champion, two Mexican Americans with got the good looks, got the style. Uh where do you think the little animosity came from, whether or how it began?
SPEAKER_01I mean like um I was raised if you say F you, I I say F you. You know? I'm respectful at the end of the day, but i it is what it is, you know. If if you want to talk about my family, how do you expect me to react? You know? And and I'd ask the same question to him. If I talk about his family, how do you expect how do I expect him to react? So, I mean look, he's a great champion, he's a great fighter, but at the end of the day, that's a fight that I would love to fight. I think um the fans would be all over it, uh, and everything in due time. I mean, he just became world champion at twenty-seven years of age, so I'd expect him to become world champion at 27, you know. Uh, but you know, I'm on my way. Obviously, what I'm doing bothers uh people, not just him, but other champions. Um I think he's a great fighter. I think that'd be a great fight. But, you know, there's something that every time my name gets mentioned around him, he feels some type of way, you know. So I'm a young I'm a young gun. I'm a young kid, but uh at the end of the day, I'm doing I'm on the same road that they were doing when they were 21 years of age, you know, and um but it bothers him. So it is what it is. I I would love that fight, uh, everything in due time. Um and you know, it is what it is. So if he wants to keep on talking, I'll keep on talking and we'll build a fight up.
SPEAKER_00Do you think you and uh Ryan could become sort of like shades of De La Hoya and your dad?
SPEAKER_01120%. Um you know, he's a he's a like I said, he's a great fighter, he has a great fan base behind him. Um I'm uh I I think great of myself, you know, and and I'm growing my fan base as well. Um and you know, by the time I'm 24, 25, whatever, whatever age it may come, um, I think it'd be a super fight. Honestly, I think it'd be a super fight. So, you know, only God knows. But uh we'll see.
SPEAKER_00So I remember when De La Jolla was uh sort of in his prime and your dad was coming up, and I always remember, at least you'd hear the reporters talk, that Oscar initially didn't even want to give him a fight because he saw this new Mexican-American kid coming up, had the looks, had the style, and then eventually your dad goaded him into it. Your dad knew how to talk the talk and goaded him into it.
SPEAKER_01No, but uh look, I'm not gonna try to be like my dad. Yeah, you know, but uh I come from the same school though. Like you want to talk about me, I'll talk about you. You know, I'm respectful at the end of the day. Uh look, I got um I got love for his family, they're very respectful as far as him. Uh I don't know if if he was on a bender and was talking about me or whatever. Look, I I no, I'm gonna I'm gonna be real with you. I'm gonna be real with you. You know, we know he drinks, we know he he he's parties, he does all this other stuff. Um, he has mental episodes. This stuff that we do know, right? So I don't know if I was on the receiving end of one of those benders, right? So hopefully, you know, he gets his stuff together. Uh I mean, he he looked real focused his last fight. Um, but I hope he keeps that. The thing is this discipline wins at the end of the day. I'm willing to do what you won't do. So, hey, maybe we fight and three, four rehabs later, you know, we'll see if if he's still able to make the fight. So I'm being a little smart here too, you know. But it is what it is. It is what it is. Uh we do know that he does drink, we do know that he parties, we do know, we do know that. And and at the end of the day, discipline will win. So that's my mental space and how I'm feeling. But, you know, it is what it is. But I definitely do think, like you said, um just hearing and talking about my my dad when he fought Oscar, it was like uh like a Super Bowl. Like everybody was so into it. My dad told me people were fighting in inside of the inside the crowd, yeah. In the Mandalay Bay and and and at Wayne's, oh well, I'm Team Oscar, oh, I'm Team Vargas, like, you know, and just getting down. So I I would love for that. I think I think that's something that a fighter dreams of, you know. So yeah, that's definitely one of my dreams.
SPEAKER_00You know, when you see guys like that, like some of the troubles that Garcia's had, or someone like uh Tank Davis who's also in your division, is does that more keep you on the path? Does you you look at that and you're like, uh, see, my dad's right. You gotta stay away from this and stay away from it.
SPEAKER_01I mean, look, every every man makes their own decisions, yeah, right? Um your parents could tell you no, no, no, no, until it's time for you to make a decision. So um I just think that there's three types of people. You learn from other people's mistakes, your mistakes, and people who never learn at all. You know, and that's the truth. So I'd rather be the person who learns from your mistakes, you know, and learn as much as I can, because at the end of the day, it's it's all the same, it's all the same stuff. You know, I mean the even the Bible, um, it's been women, it's been uh greed, it's been uh, you know, it's all been the same. It's all been the same. So, you know, if you if I look at other people and I understand I don't gotta look too far, my father, you know, the reason why he blew up a hundred pounds was being undisciplined. The reason why he blew up a hundred pounds was because he was drinking, because he was parting, he was doing what he was doing, right? But you give a young kid from Oxnard a bunch of money, and of course he's gonna do that, right? You know, I mean nobody's gonna tell you, hey, you know, you got to slow down, hey, you gotta do this. Who is he gonna listen to? You know, and and at the end of the day, because people are on your payroll, they're not gonna tell you nothing. You're gonna do, they're gonna let you do what you're gonna do. So I'm grateful that I have great people around me, one um that could tell me, hey, like my father, hey son, what are you doing? Hey, my brothers, hey, what are you doing? You know, um great mentors and stuff like that to where, hey, that's you shouldn't be doing that. Like if you go down this road, you know, this is the outcome. So uh I think definitely that, and and I'm just blessed, man. I'm blessed that uh, like I said, I have all these people around me uh that are good for me and uh you know aren't yes men, and I think that's the main thing. I think all these other fighters that they have a bunch of yes men around them, and um it is what it is, it happens a lot. You know, it's sad to see. It's sad to see.
SPEAKER_00You know, speaking of that, I remember this video was circulating around a couple of weeks back where your two brothers are having like a scrap somewhere. Did you have to check your brothers and be like, what the hell are you doing? What the hell are you guys doing?
SPEAKER_01And and you know what it was over? It was over this. Um it was over, well, you know, uh don't talk to me like that. Wait, what do you mean? What do you I'm gonna talk to you, however? Like, you know, it's just yeah, so look, my dad says it like this. Machine is it that's exactly what it's you look in the mirror, are you gonna be disrespected? No, it's like looking in the mirror. You're you're not gonna be disrespected, so why are you gonna disrespect your brother? And then one thing turns into another, you know, and and it just sucks that it was in in uh in public. Yeah. Everyone's got a camera phone. Yeah, no doubt. But look, uh the same people who point the finger have family that they can't even be in the same room as, you know, that they get into scuffles all the time with. So yeah, I just think it sucks that it happened in person. It sucks that, you know, obviously my brothers had a fight. Um, not even a fight, they were running around or whatever, you know. But I honestly, it was good that it was good that it was in public in a way because who knows? Maybe if they were together by themselves, you know, one of them got would have got hurt. Only God knows, right? But um am I was I a little disappointed. Yes. I called both of them, I was like chewing them out, dude. What are you doing? This, that, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh how did your parents react? Oh, man. Yeah, my dad. Uh, you know what? We're more scared of my mother than we are my father. Yeah. You know, so my mom got on the phone. She was uh she was going ham, and it it happens, it's family stuff. But uh, do I condone it? No. Does it happen? Yes.
SPEAKER_00Uh but I'm glad they're good now. Well, it usually happens, you know, behind the scenes, especially when you have brothers. There's there's always people always have scraps with their brother, even when they're younger, older. You know, it's always gonna happen. Sometimes when a drink or two is involved, and yeah, luckily they they weren't, man.
SPEAKER_01Probably, probably it would have been bad, you know. But uh that's what I'm saying. I think that part of discipline, like, you know, who if who knows what happened if you were?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, so yeah, man.
SPEAKER_002026, still in the a little bit past the first quarter of the year. Map out the perfect 2026 for you. Perfect 2026.
SPEAKER_01Well, we had a uh a great beginning of 2026. Yeah. Um, you know, we went from the Super Bowl to prospect of the year to obviously my fight stopping him in the uh ninth, not coming out for the tenth. And you know, I'm just grateful. Uh, whatever God wants to do, he's gonna do. But in my in my book, I would love to fight a former world champion next. After that, um, you know, whoever's in line for me to fight, uh, maybe a title eliminator, and then a title at the end of the year. I think that'd be a perfect 2026. And if we get it the early next year, who I mean whatever happens, happens. But you know, these fighters gotta be willing to fight me. That's the thing. So um I'm we're gonna try to make these fights happen. I've been talking to top rank, talking to already sent offers to people, waiting on responses, and the only thing I can do is be prepared. So um I think this is a perfect 2026 and just continuing to grow. Inside of the ring, outside of the ring. Uh we have a um uh a reality show/slash docuseries is coming out. Uh you know, who knows? I might be in a movie this year. Who knows? You know, so we're just gonna keep on moving, grooving, and making sure that uh we give God all the glory all the time.
SPEAKER_00Is is one of your goals, at least in your head, anything could happen, yeah. Uh, is to get yourself in the ring with a belt on the line by next year.
SPEAKER_01That's exactly uh the trajectory, that's exactly the plan. Uh we talked with obviously my lawyer Charles Lou and um, you know, the rest of top rank and everybody else, and that's exactly what we want to do. I want a belt, I want to uh become champion. So um you you dream as a kid to become champion. That's what I want to do. Um I don't think there's any other fights for me to take, you know. I I'm I'm ready for that level. I'm I'm uh I want it and I'm gonna have it.
SPEAKER_00And that's a wrap for the latest episode of the Mr. Versace Podcast. I want to thank Emiliano for joining me today. Thank you, brother. And until next time, stay sharp.