How to Rewire Fear Before Ostomy Surgery (Proven Method)

What if you could remove fear before it ever takes over your life?

In this episode of Rewired and Desired, we dive into the real-world power of visualization—not as a vague “positive thinking” tool, but as a structured, repeatable process that can shift your mindset fast.

Trina shares her personal experience preparing for ostomy surgery, facing overwhelming fear around intimacy, body image, and identity… and how a simple daily visualization practice changed everything in less than a week.

This conversation explores:

●      How visualization actually works (without the fluff)

●      Why most people fail to get results from it

●      How to use it to prepare for surgery, life changes, or fear-based situations

●      The role of repetition, emotion, and clarity

●      How to rebuild confidence—even when your body changes

If you're navigating fear around intimacy, health, disability, or identity… this episode gives you a tool you can actually use.

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Trina Ricketts – The Intimate Ostomate
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Nicole Richards - Ostomy Innovations
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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

The fear of having intimacy with the bag. It was just so overwhelming for me. So I'm on this holiday, my last holiday without the bag, and uh I can't walk. I'm in so much pain from the disease in my rectum. And I can't sit, but it's better than walking. And uh my partner's walking around this little village where we went with my daughter and her friend to look at places. And I just went and sat down in a pub and I ordered myself a vodka, because that's my my favorite drink. And uh I sat down, I opened my phone, and I started typing out this long, heartfelt Facebook message about how I'm getting a permanent ostomy surgery. And this woman from my Toastmasters group commented in the comments have you read this book?

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Welcome to Rewired and Desire, where intimacy, mindset, and disability intersect. My name is Nicole and I'm your co-host. I have my lovely co-host Trina Ricketts here with me today, as usual. And we are talking about techniques for visualization, specifically why visualization is great for your confidence. So starting out, Trina, you take it off. I'll I'll interject and give my two cents.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Sure. So the reason Nicole and I were interested in talking about visualization is because we have both used it in our own self-work journeys, and we offer it also in our courses. And I had a really interesting visualization journey because I actually really believed in visualization before I learned the best way to do it. And I used it all the time for just feeling good and like imagining the things I want to manifest. Like my favorite thing, and I used to get even emotional and even start crying sometimes when I would imagine this, but I would visualize myself sitting on the beach of a house that I own, surrounded by my children and my grandchildren, and just like loving my life and feeling like I've created this secure, wonderful place where we can all gather together. And that's my dream. That's what I want to create with my children. And that the house on the lake thing comes from growing up in a town that was a real lake town. And I used to go down to the beach and I used to look at the houses that were right on the beach and think, I could never, I wish I could own that one day, but it deep down I really believed I would never be able to.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

The abundance, the abundance block.

SPEAKER_04 2:50

Yeah, the abundance block. Exactly. I didn't believe that I would ever be able to achieve that. And it hasn't even been until the last maybe 10 years that I started to believe that I could have something more than what I have, you know, especially because with my health and everything else that we've been through on our roads that have affected our ability to make money or provide financial security for ourselves. So it's been it's been rocky, right? But now I'm starting to believe that that's something I can achieve. And um, part of the reason I was able to start to believe that was doing visualization and imagining myself being there and feeling like it was so real that it would literally fill me with just so much joy, like tears of joy. Um, so I really love visualization, even before I heard about this tick technique. But I was doing visualization for a few years. This was before my second ostomy surgery. And I was literally trying my best to heal my large intestine so I would never have to have an ostomy surgery again. Like my biggest fear was having an ostomy again, because the first time I was devastated by it. Like I was any person who has like just become hating of themselves and hating of their life and everything else because of their ostomy, that was me the first time. And I was so like when I went into the surgery for my reversal, I was just like, I couldn't even think about what I would feel like if I came out of the surgery and they said, sorry, we weren't able to do the reversal. Like I was just like, it has to be done. And when I came out of the surgery, the first thing I did was check my stomach to see if there was a bag there, and there wasn't. And I was like, oh so 10 years I spent trying to avoid having ostomy surgery and doing a lot of self-work during that time, but not on the subject of having an ostomy, because I was determined to never have one again. Well, we all know how that worked out.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

You you pushed it away, you you you pushed it too far, right?

SPEAKER_04 4:56

Like I probably had so much importance on it, I drew it to me.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Exactly. That's exactly that's why you know I used to be a protester, right? I used to go out and protest what I thought was, you know, social right movements. And now I come to realize that when you go out and do things, those things, you're actually just creating, calling more attention to the problem. And so those things happen. And that's why visualization is important because you're actually you're it's like a movie, right? So when you watch a movie, you're watching the watching something play out in front of you. And that's what you want to do inside your mind. You want to make it like a movie, technically. You want to be seeing those small, small, small, very small details. And we'll get into that more later. But yeah, visualization is like a really powerful tool. And I've used it, I've used it a lot myself, and I have a little uh little bits and pieces in my course. There's somebody I would love to give a shout out to. She's a YouTuber and her name's Shiva Rasa. Oh, yeah. Her visualizations are game-changing for just you know, for everyday people, right? Not just for Austin. It's like Trina's got the course, go there. But if you're using like in in everyday kind of life or people for people, she has just some amazing videos online. So cool.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

I'll have to check them out.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

You should, yeah. She's got one that's been amazing to me. It's it's I could see you, you should definitely try to use it for your visualizing your future self on that in that beach house because she really gets into like going forward five, 10 years, right? Because if you believe that time is not linear and that we're experiencing the past, present, and future versions of ourselves simultaneously, like you can call this in. And she goes forward like five years, so that your current self is actually talking to that future version of yourself.

SPEAKER_04 6:53

That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

It's really powerful.

SPEAKER_04 6:55

That's very similar, like reminds me of like shadow work when the future self is the current self, which is the future self, is talking to the past self, like the child.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

The child, the inner child, healing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 7:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:08

Yeah. So here I am. I like do not want to have ostomy surgery, get to the point where I'm faced with ostomy surgery again. All of this self-work I've done has gotten me to the point where I'm determined not to let myself be destroyed again. But I don't know how to overcome those feelings of I'm not going to be sexy anymore, I'm not going to be beautiful, I'm not going to be desirable. I'm going to have this thing on my body that makes noises. It's disgusting. And no one's going to be attracted to me. You know, those were the biggest issue for me. Because coming from like the exotic dance background and being a nude model and the things that I felt I had this beautiful body, and now it was going to be destroyed. I had finally just gotten used to my scars and my missing belly button. And now I was going to have a bag on my stomach again. So I was not very um like ready for it at all. I was I wasn't mentally handling it very well. I I was weeping a lot, and it just there was a cloud over my entire home. Like my my children, they they could feel my heart ache and their hearts ached. And it was just uh such a sad time for our family when I realized I was gonna have another ostomy surgery.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

So I'm on my last holiday without a bag because everything was the last time, the last time I go on a holiday, the last time I go to the beach, the last time I wear a bathing suit without a bag, last time I have sex without a bag, I wasn't even able to have sex anymore. But because of the issues that were causing me to have to need a bag, I couldn't even have sex anymore. So that was another thing I was actually looking forward to.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:56

But the fear of having intimacy with the bag, it was just so overwhelming for me. So I'm on this holiday, my last holiday without the bag, and uh I can't walk. I'm in so much pain from the disease in my rectum. And I can't sit, but it's better than walking. And uh my partner's walk walking around this little village where we went with my daughter and her friend to look at places, and I just went and sat down in a pub and I ordered myself a vodka, because that's my my favorite drink. And uh I sat down, I opened my phone, and I started typing out this long, heartfelt Facebook message about how I'm getting a permanent ostomy surgery. And this woman from my Toastmasters group commented in the comments, have you read this book? And it was called The Fighter by Aaron Volpati. And he was a former professional hockey player who now teaches visualization. Oh his story was so inspiring and profound that it inspired me to try and learn how to do his visualization technique, and he describes what how he does it in the book. So I get home from the holiday, I've got some time to myself, I sit down, I write out an entire visualization script based on this process, but I add this little part in it where, you know, how I told you in the past about the hippie hospital where I went when I was like my out-of-body experience or my near-death experience, where I went to the other side and I was given a choice whether to come back or not. And I I had I put this into my visualization because there's like a past, present, and future component to the visualized this visualization process. And I had added that in. But to even make it kind of more meaningful, I added in um seeing my deceased dad in my visualization. So every time I went into this uh hippie hospital part of my visualization, I would see my dad there and I would give him a hug. And so visualizing this every morning, I was actually like getting this opportunity to see my father and give him a hug. And it was just so amazing. But I'm I'm kind of getting off topic here. But the whole point is that I created the script and I put it to music.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

And I started doing it every day. And at first I didn't have it memorized. I'd have to look at the script and then listen to the music and close my eyes, look at the script, and and then after a few days of that, I started to know exactly which part what I should be thinking at each part of the song, because it has to be at the same part of the song every day.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

That the visualization goes. And then after a few days after that, I was able to get more into my body and like be able to imagine the smells, the the feeling on my skin, like everything that I was experiencing throughout the visualization from beginning to end. And the end of the visualization was me coming out of my surgery and learning how to change my bag and feeling confident about it. And then I and then I had uh visualizations of different activities I was scared to do. Like namely going dancing, making love, and um doing intimacy surrogacy, which I was still doing. That was my job, right? Okay, so I was scared like to be in an intimate surrogacy position, like hugging one of my clients or something, and my bag might fart, for instance. Right. So these are the the fears. I stopped focusing on that because in your visualization, you clearly don't want to throw it.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

No, you don't want to you don't want to call that in.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

No, you want only the good stuff. And so I visualized myself dancing with the bag, and I could feel it underneath my clothes, and it was not an issue. And I imagined myself making love with my bag and it was not an issue. And I imagine myself going another thing I was scared of was like going into public places, like conferences or anything, because I had a bad experience at a conference before with the first bag. So I imagine that not being an issue because I'm a speaker too. I don't want to be scared to speak when that's part of what I do. Yeah. So after literally like a week or less of doing this, all of my fears were gone.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

And I kept doing it right up until the surgery. Um, but overnight I I wasn't weeping anymore. I was back to my feeling joyful about life and happy about life. And I was actually just like, I almost felt like I already had the bag because that's how powerful visualization is.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 13:45

And since I've had the bag, I've had no insecurities about it, no feelings of I'm not attractive, I'm not desirable. And it's all because for about three weeks before my surgery, I did that visualization.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Yeah, you know, the thing, I think the thing is when we think about this is for for people who are like, well, okay, but does it really work? Yeah, it worked for you, but does it really work for me? The the issue is that you really have to do put in the work, right? So it's not like you're just gonna put on this uh any meditation or that or a visualization and it's just gonna like be one thing. Like you said, for you it only took a week, but for some people it might take a little bit longer to get there because people aren't used to quieting their mind. Um, we're constantly, you know, distracted with um all the things, right? Like the TV, the social media, people, and then just like normal distractions throughout daily life. You have to put in the work and practice it. And I like how you said that you took those things that you were most concerned about, right? Like that's a really good piece of the puzzle to think about is like before going into a visualization, really think about the things that you're wanting to bring to fruition and or the things that are bothering you is so that you do know what to focus on when you go in. And that's important. And and I think the other piece too is like you have to be out of that fear mindset. So going into visualization, really clearing, you know, clearing the fears that you're you're thinking about. Like, yes, you know what they are, but but also releasing it from your body a little bit first because you want to hold that gratitude intention, that loving feeling that you have, like you said, you know, you really visualize your body having the bag, but it not being an issue. So that acceptance piece is is a big part of it. Yes, right. Because when you don't accept it, like you said, you push it, you push it away because you're bringing it more to you by thinking about it in such a negative way. But if you accept it, be thankful and grateful for it. And I know that's hard for people to understand, but it's a work in progress to get there.

SPEAKER_04 16:03

Well, you're making it sound a lot harder than it is. I'm just saying, because if you actually do this visualization process, exactly the how, but you make such a good point. It does take the work. But I just I just disagree with it taking a long time. If someone does the work, if someone does like my like the course that I have online, the first day you do the entire script, you write the entire script. You go through the videos and you write the entire script. Then for the next two weeks, you do five minutes a day of visualization. And it's only five minutes a day, but people, you gotta want it. Well, that's you gotta want it so bad. And I did. I wanted it so bad, I was willing to try anything to not have my confidence destroyed and visualize. So, yeah, people might have trouble, you know, saying focused, true, but because they created the script and they're following it each day, it's like you're kind of forced to and you're imagining things that make you feel so good that you love it, you love doing it. Yeah. So, but like you said, if people don't do it, like don't actually do it. Like if someone bought my course and watched it, but they didn't do their script and then they didn't do their visualizations, or they only did it one day and then they skipped three days. No, it doesn't work, it does not work like at all. And if people want to do that, if that's how they want to go about their self-work, then it's gonna take forever. It's gonna take time, yeah. It's gonna take a long time to heal from anything if that's how you do your self-work. Self-work, like you and I talked about uh in that I think our episode about mental health, it's a daily repetitive practice.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

It is, yeah. It really is.

SPEAKER_04 17:47

Otherwise, there's no point, really.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Right, right. Yeah, there's yeah, no, no, there's I mean, I guess the only point I could say to it not being a daily thing is maybe if you even if you if you didn't do it repetitively, eventually you're gonna learn more. You're gonna keep ingraining it into your brain, but you're not you're not gonna get there as fast. Like you said, you're not gonna get there as fast. It's gonna be a lot harder. Um, but but if you could put in the the week's worth like like with yours, with your program, um I could see how, yeah, it would it could change your your life overnight for sure.

SPEAKER_04 18:23

It really does, honestly. Like I I was a skeptic. I didn't think it would work. I thought it was gonna take me at least months of doing it to to feel anything. So the fact that it made me feel so drastically different, so fast, and I've heard over like, and you probably have to constantly told by people who are proponents of visualization how powerful it is, how fast it works, but never believed it. I never did. And when I tried it, I thought it was gonna take a really long time. But shockingly, if I did it every day, it did not take very long at all. Yeah. But and when I say doing self-work every day, like in that case, that's a specific thing that you're trying to overcome. For me, I was specifically trying to overcome my fear of living with an ostomy bag, my fears, right? And I think visualization, like this visualization program that I did, would be really relevant for anyone that's facing something, some kind of event, some kind of surgery or some kind of situation that they have a lot of fear about. Yeah. But like outside of that, self-work to me on a daily basis just means thinking good thoughts or listening to a podcast that I feel like I'm getting something from, I'm learning from, doing something spiritual. You know, this is that's the daily practice. I call it like uh um what what do I call it? Motivational buddies and I don't know, daily but a daily practice uh and the habits of every day of like listening to for me, it's audiobooks and podcasts and whatnot, or doing like affirmations like we talked about in the the mental health podcast. But for visualization, like to me, that's something that's if you're just so depressed and so anxious and so insecure that you can't even live a normal life, then I feel like visualization is the most powerful thing that a person can try.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Yeah. Um I what you say about like the the daily habits, right? I I I like to talk a lot about the microhabits because people think you know, you're just gonna jump, jump, jump, and leap like all together at once, but it is microhabits daily, right? Like it's because there's so many aspects to this. But um in our next masterclass, which is going to be the day. Well, this is posted on this will be go out live on Sunday. So when Tuesday, so the following Tuesday, so uh Tuesday, we're having a another masterclass, and I'm gonna be talking a little bit about the daily taking those five minutes, and some of it may be more, some of it might be a 30-minute, but there's a little bit I'm gonna get into that talks about this. So join our masterclass so you can let us. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, it's gonna be good. Um, but yeah, what I agree with you, I think what most people are afraid of, and and I talked about this with one of my clients, is that uh her feedback was that yeah, people it's work. People don't want to work sometimes. People don't want to do the work. But I can say, like, I've literally stepped back and look like lately and looked at my life from everything I've been visualizing for the last few years. And I'm watching it right now unfold so fast and so like there's a delay sometimes, right? So um you may want something and desire something here, and sometimes there can be a delay. Until it actually comes. Depends how fast, you know, how fast things are speeding up in your in your world. Um, it depends how well you're feeling. It depends on how much gratitude you're holding at the current moment. But I will tell you, it will show up. And when you do this work, it happens and it's like the most beautiful thing. Because, and this, and I'm gonna say this in in our masterclass, but there's a lot of important ingredients, right? There's the important ingredients of being very clear about what you want to the in the details. There's the ingredient about having the gratitude, but I think the biggest thing is having 100% faith that it's going to come true, and that until then, you're happy in the life that you have until that desire has come about. And I think faith is like the biggest part.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

Yeah. I I I used the word hope back in the day, but faith, faith, hope, just believing that you're going to heal, that's a huge one. Like that's the only reason I got through it without, you know, ending everything. Because like I remember being really depressed. And and and you've been through that too, like where it's just like, I don't know if I can go on anymore. But hope will or faith, faith that you'll get better, hope that you will see a better day. Yeah. That's what can get you through those hardest, hardest moments for sure. Yeah. I do like um think that when you talk about uh the the weight or whatever, where the delay. The delay. So I'm just curious, like when you were talking about that, were you talking about like your underwear business? Oh, yeah. Because it's starting like it's starting to really take off, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the underwear, yes. Um, so like one of the things was I had written down that I'll have X amount of sales within a time period. And I'm seeing that amount of sales now. That's and so I'm just like, okay. Um, so yeah, that's huge. Cause as you know, I make awesome underwear. Um and Trina and I are making a cool like little uh um what do you call a collab deal. We'll talk more about that later. But um yeah, so that and and I would just say the connections that I'm making, um I would say also like the potential for, you know, maybe a boyfriend down the road here soon. Um, just stuff like that. Like I just I think that um I don't want to say I think, I know that it happens and it doesn't always happen on our time frame, but I just it it does happen. Sometimes and some things happen faster, some things happen slower, but it happens.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

Um like with businesses, it requires consistency.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:49

Self-work is the same as business work or busy work, it's requires consistency, consistency.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Well, I think entrepreneurship is one of the biggest self-help strategies out there. So if you wanna, if you wanna speed up your self, your self-work uh in the self-work department, start a little side hustle. It will push you into your comfort zone. I went to um, I was on this TV show uh about a year and a half ago or so, and it was about entrepreneurship. It was like a startup thing, you know, and uh entrepreneurship to startup like intensity school, right? And I was like watching myself from the outside, right? Like I was watching myself and I'm like, you have so much work to do. Like you are not there. And it's so true. And then when you do start working on yourself, uh all these other things around you start to align. It's like that magnetic draw, right? Like it's the people you surround yourself with, it's the people you talk to, it's the things that you listen to, like this podcast, right? Like you listen to these self-help kind of podcasts or these um other guru type uh people that are out there, you know, Tony Robbins and that. You listen to that kind of stuff, you put yourself around that kind of stuff, and you will inevitably start to change. And visualization is just a great technique to push you more towards it. And one thing I wanted to say is I know I say this a lot, but people think woo-woo, right? Like this is this is the woo-woo stuff coming out, but it's not because like in religions, even in organized religions, you know, when you're praying, it praying is like meditation, and meditation and visualizations go together. So it's it's not all that woo-woo, right? It's just focusing on what you want, the desire and the reality you want to bring to yourself. So and there's all sorts of um visualization techniques and breathing techniques. Um I also like to preface, and I wonder what I I haven't heard your visualization, but I would love to. But I'm also wondering what kind of music you attach to it. Is it like high frequency? Have you heard of like the high frequency tones? And like oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

Yeah. So that's the kind of music I used to use for and I generally use for just like just general visualization when I have something I want to visualize or spend time somewhere. And I really love spending time at that that lake on the beach with my children and my grandchildren. So I'll visualize that and I'll use that um uh binaural beats or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, but for the for the process of the visualization, um, the one that I kind of copied but but modified a little bit based on Aaron Volpati's book, you pick a song that is motivational or uplifting.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

Like, think like Rocky, you know, how there's a song. That's good. That's good. I like that. But you pick something that you love. Okay. And you can, like, I had classical music for mine that was very emotional. And I would imagine these emotional moments in my life. And and you're you pick for your script like specific moments that will make you feel empowered. And then you empower yourself to throughout your entire visualization. And you might break down in tears, you might have emotional experiences when you're doing your visualization, but it feels amazing. It's like amazing tears, amazing emotions. Um, and then when when you've done this for like seriously, like a week is you're like you're break you're shifting so much. Yeah. It's like what we do with affirmations on a daily basis or a regular basis, but it's it's like it's injected with some kind of um serum that's steroid. Steroid, yes, a steroid that makes it like happen so much faster and more like profoundly. Yeah, it's a really beautiful thing. And I really I think it's for people who are determined to not let their ostomy or whatever it is that they're facing to destroy them. And I've used it with clients in the context of like uh a client who was developing a disability as they got older and was not looking forward to having to use like a wheelchair. And so we practice the visualization of being in the wheelchair and it being fine. And you can't still, you know, being in the wheelchair and flirting with some woman, being in the wheelchair and being dancing on the dance floor, being in the wheelchair and whatever it is you're doing. You know what I mean? That you're scared to that you're worried you're not gonna be able to do. Getting into an elevator, no problem, getting in and out of your car, no problem, whatever it is, right? And then using that, those visualizations, but there's a there's like the past, the present, and the future. The future is where everything is gonna be amazing and fine. And the past and the present, then you also have to pick the rest of your scripts. So it's kind of like a movie of your life, but that brings you to this ending of empowerment. And when you get there, you're like, ooh. So I I'll explain how mine went because you said you wanted to hear it. Okay, so mine started. Um, I was roller rollerblading up a hill in a in downtown Vancouver to go and speak to an agent for the first time because about becoming a stripper. And like, I was so like nervous, scared, didn't know what I was getting myself into, but I was desperate. I was financially struggling, I needed to do something, and I was taking power of my finances and taking it, you know, control of it, taking it into my hands. So there was this element of, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do what I need to do. And so the visualizing the sweat on my skin, the sound of people in the streets, but how I was like blocking them all out because I was so in my head about what I was doing and where I was going, and just that feeling of determination. So, and that was kind of powerful. Then the next part of my visualization is me climbing down the ladder from the change room onto a stage to dance. And the feeling I used to get when I was dancing used to just feel really powerful, and I'd have like the whole crowd wrapped around my pinky finger, and like just and I love to dance. So I would visualize the feeling of dancing, moving, swinging around the pool. And uh, and then and so these are two empowering, you know, visualizations. And then I um got to like another event that I threw when I was pregnant, and I was like swinging around the pool with my belly, and I was, but you know, not performing, I was just kind of like fooling around and like and but I was felt so like comfortable in my skin and just empowered. And this was the what I was trying to create with this visualization. And then I got to getting through um, getting through my surgery, my first ostomy surgery, when the nurse gave me uh pain relief and just that feeling of just like like thank you, thank you, grace and like like gratitude for for taking that pain away. And then I go into surgery, that surgery, and I wake up in the hippie hospital, like in my um out of or whatever, near death experience. I wake up there, added in my dad, who wasn't there the first time in in my real experience, added him into my visualization where my dad's there and he gives me a hug, and I tell him I'm going back to my kids. Then my next visualization is present, and it was the faces of my children, each one one at a time, and just how much joy it gives me like their smiling faces and how much I love that.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Yeah.

unknown 32:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

Um, and then I had my first kiss with my partner who I was with at that time when I was doing these visualizations. And that was that kiss, like I was really it was a great memory. And uh, and then I moved on to um that went from there to us riding our motorcycles because that feeling of being on a motorcycle, like you're it's almost like you're flying, and it's just such an empowering, amazing feeling. And all of this went to music. And like when I was in the hospital, it got like more sad at that point of the music. And then when I went in the hippie hospital, hugging my dad, and it's you know, so the music went with the whole thing. Um, and then I woke up from my neck surgery, and this this was gonna be my permanent ostomy surgery, and I woke up from it and the nurse said, How's your pain? And I smiled at her. This is my visualization, that's not how it really happened in real life. I woke up and I puked in real life. But in my visualization, I woke up and I just smiled at the nurse. And then I visualized myself learning how to figure out my bag and having no problem figuring it out. And then I visualized myself dancing and visualized myself making love, and I visualized the very end of me ending up on the beach house with my children and my grandchildren, the one that I've been doing forever. I ended up the whole thing with. And it was all to music. And after doing that for a few days, Nicole, I was not scared about my ost me surgery at all.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Good, good. How long, how long is the visual, how long is the piece of it?

SPEAKER_04 34:19

So you can do it for five minutes, but I kind of went a little overboard. Mine was, I think, seven minutes. Okay. But uh like you could do it for five minutes or less. I I recommend, you know, do what you're comfortable with. If you only want to commit five minutes a day to it, then do it for five minutes or less. For me, because I was really close to my surgery and I was so in despair at the time. Um, and it was so urgent for me to try and deal with my emotions that I just went all in on it.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

And so that's what my course on my on my website teaches. It teaches the exact process that I went through to create the script, add the music, I give some music suggestions for people to get ideas, and um, and then and then they do it for two weeks.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Love it.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

It can have a big, huge impact. So yeah, like I I think the the the whole thing, it was, like I said, developed based on what I read in a book by someone else who teaches visualization now. And his process of the whole past and then the present and then the future, um, and the empowering themes through it. Yeah, it just works in a way that kind of like they teach you if you are an entrepreneur or you're gonna give a speech and then you're trying to sell something, they say, well, this is the structure, do it like and by the time you get to the end, your crowd will be cheering for your product or whatever, you know? That's kind of how that visualization is, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

And then do you use this even now, like going forward when something big is coming? Have do you still use that or come back to it? Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 35:49

I do. Yeah. I used it when uh my cat is climbing on things because he wants me to let him out of the room. He starts being a jerk when he wants my attention. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

It's the cat outside of the room and trying to get in.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

No, he's just sitting right here on the table, walking all over my messy table. Okay. Well, brat. Anyway, he's gonna have to wait. We're almost done. But yeah, so um, when my ex and I broke up, I needed to use it. I was really emotionally struggling, and I used the same uh process. I changed my visualization slightly, but I used a lot of the same stuff because it worked so well the first time. And then um I ended it with me being single and living a single life and feeling, you know, and having no problems with finances and having no problem being alone and sleeping in a king-sized bed by myself and everything else that uh I was struggling with at the time. And it really made a difference for sure.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Nice, nice. Yeah. I I know I I believe I believe, like I know all these techniques work, you know. I I know this. Like I'm living proof because when I look back at my life, where I was even, I don't know, look if I look back at my life like five years ago when I first started really practicing anything, I look back and I'm like, I am just a different person now. Like I'm the same person. Yeah, but I'm hold these qualities and these characteristics that are if I would have stayed not doing the work five like five years ago, right? If I'd have stayed there, there's no, I would be so unfulfilled right now. But I feel so fulfilled at this moment in my life. Like, and I don't even have all the things that I know are coming to me still yet. You know, like my end goal is to like hold these retreats and have uh women come and men come and that have ostomies that have digestive issues come and be in this place where we all, you know, heal together. And I just think that if like holding that end goal, you know, is part of this. But if I look at the at the cycle of it, it's like, okay, where I was before, like you said, where I am now, but where I am gonna be in the future, it's so freaking beautiful. Like this is so this this work is amazing work. This work is powerful, it's life-changing. And if you start now, you can also be there, right? You can be there. Let's get together, let's all do this, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

I mean, I want to be there. That sounds like an awesome time.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

That's what I do with my visualizations. That's part of where I am. I I envision my family too, and I envision Sedona and I envision like these being in this beautiful, beautiful home, surrounded by all these people that are just, you know, either ready to get on to their next level of healing or at some capacity of healing and bringing in all these modalities and people that know what they're talking about and can can show people, you know, these things that they can do at home together. Like, oh, like that's gonna, oh. And then I picture my kids just like helping me and being a part of it. And yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:59

I know, right? I love it. Oh beautiful. Actually, I'm getting being in, I'm feeling inspired right now. I should do another um round of the of visualizations for our um plans. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Please do. Please do. I'm gonna do the same. I have a whole list now that I you're this is actually empowering me to say, you know, I've I'm working on all these things, and um yes, I do my own little things, but sometimes I get hung up on one thing and forget that I have all these other things that I could also be visualizing as well, right? Because you you can you can insert insert A, B, C, or D, right? There's so many different things that you could be um working on, right? I mean, we have career and love and and finances and kids and family, all these things that um need our attention sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

You can also use visualization for erotic fun by yourself. Ooh, yeah, you can tell us, tell us. I mean, I I'm blushing right now because I'm thinking about how I do it.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

And I'm having deja vu right now. I'm having major deja vu. Like interesting. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Well, you can be like, make sure you're alone. That goes without saying. Um, but how I like to do it is imagine it's like a ghost, a ghost lover. And they come and they do all the things I want a real lover to do, but it's a ghost. And so I imagine the feel of their touch and the feel of their kiss, and the and the fun part is they're supernatural.

unknown 40:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

They're not gonna tell anybody.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

And they're like, perfect.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

Oh, I love it. Uh I might have to do that tonight. Stop giving me ideas, Trina. Like, hello.

SPEAKER_04 40:58

Those are my favorite kinds of ideas to give.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Right, right. I'm probably blushing now too.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

I know we're like, we're like, how old are we?

SPEAKER_04 41:08

And we're blushing about this stuff, but it's because we're we're becoming aroused.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

Don't tell anybody. Oh my gosh. Don't tell anybody besides everyone who's gonna watch this or listen to it.

SPEAKER_04 41:23

Should we hint at what we're doing?

SPEAKER_00 41:27

I see it. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

So Nicole and I are creating a product that is gonna help people feel more confident during intimacy with ostomy bags. Yeah. I'm excited. I know. I'm excited. You're gonna hear more about it as the as the days go by and as we get closer to right now. We're just in the manufacturing, uh, the prototype stage, I should say, not manufacturing.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Yeah, so yeah. It's a process, it's a process, but um hey, we started and here we are, and so we've heard you speak loud and clear. So we're gonna make it happen.

SPEAKER_04 42:11

So it's coming.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

Be ready.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Well, thank you all for watching, listening, and hearing about the visualization techniques. Trina has a do you have an offer, don't you?

SPEAKER_04 42:26

Oh, yeah. If anyone wants to try out my course, it's normally $147 for the visualization course. And I think that's a steal of a deal to change your life overnight. But I'm going to give this course away for only $49. And you'll find the link in the description. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

Yeah. Changer it. Let's change it.

SPEAKER_04 42:50

Well, let's there lose. And also, money back guarantee. If you do the whole program, if you do it, you can't say you did it. Just get your money back. Right. But if you do it and you don't have the results that I'm promising you, then I will give you all of your money right back.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Perfect.

SPEAKER_04 43:08

Because that's how much I know it will work. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

That's a deal. That's a deal. 100%.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

It's a steal of a deal.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Steal of a deal. I like that better. It's a steal of a deal.

SPEAKER_04 43:18

Thank you for reminding me, Nicole. I almost forgot.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

I was still blushing. Oh, she was thinking about the erotic piece. She got a little sidetracked. Awesome. Thank you all for joining us, and uh, we will see you next time. Next time.