PILTDOWN MAN AND THE CARDIFF GIANT
Two longtime friends, one a former comedian and the other a world traveler, riff on life, the arts, music, sports, travel and Horehound candy, and follow rabbit holes on just about anything. Much of it tongue in cheek while entertaining themselves and hopefully you. Future plans are interviews and at least one listener.
PILTDOWN MAN AND THE CARDIFF GIANT
(28) "Leave It All On The Court While Jimmy Buffett Shows Why Time Feels Faster Now"
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
A harmless sports phrase can hide a whole worldview. We start by pulling apart the lines you hear in every postgame interview, then ask what those clichés do to fans, players, and anyone who believes the moment on the court is the only moment that matters. Along the way, we share a candid on-mic scare about aging and anxiety, and why we choose to leave the imperfect parts in instead of sanding them down for comfort.
From there we move into sports media and sports commentary, including a throwback to the NFL experiment that aired a game with no commentators at all. We talk about what you gain when you only hear the field, and what you lose when color commentary turns every missed call into a scandal. That leads straight into referee hate, internet outrage, and why it feels like everyone is one bad whistle away from becoming a target.
Then we hit the real accelerant: sports betting. FanDuel-style gambling doesn’t just make you care who wins, it makes you care about every borderline call, every replay review, and every last-second decision that shifts a line. We also touch on how college sports keeps looking more professional, with eligibility and incentives pushing players to stay longer and chase the best financial outcome.
To close, we change gears into Jimmy Buffett, A Pirate Looks at Fifty, and the kind of nostalgia that doesn’t sugarcoat time. We talk art over money, the pull to return to remote places, and how small wins can matter more as the clock moves faster. If this one hits home, subscribe, share it with a friend who loves sports and stories, and leave us a review. What’s one cliché or habit you’re ready to drop?
Please leave us your comments, text me, DM me, give me your thoughts. what works and what doesn't land? We want to improve.
thanks for listening
Joe
Welcome Back And Old Jokes
SPEAKER_00Hey everybody, it's Piltdown Man and the Cardiff Giant. We're in episode 28. I'm Joe Flush, and this is my partner, Edward Penn.
SPEAKER_01Hey, glad to be here. Yeah, it seems like a while.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it has been a while, and we missed you for the last episode. You know what I missed the most?
SPEAKER_01I have no idea. I'm afraid to ask.
SPEAKER_00To have guitar starting on instead of my kazoo. You know, the kazoo doesn't really have quite the same uh gravitators.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, I guess you could say that. What other instrument did we? Yeah, you did say it. And what would uh other instrument would you say had that equal gravitas to the guitar?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, maybe a piano or some sort of that would be that would be the main thing. That would be the main thing if you could play piano. We got a friend that plays piano. I can sort of play piano. Oh, can you? A little bit. Yeah. Bring your piano in here. I'll bring my keyboard. It's a well if we've got a baby grand uh piano. Yeah, yeah. Bring that in.
SPEAKER_01So we won't be.
SPEAKER_00Let me know when that happens. Okay. But anyway, we're happy to be here with you again today, episode 28. I want
A Freezing Scare With Aging
SPEAKER_00to say something right up front. I I had a little incident during the last episode. It's not what you think, Ed. Uh no, I kind of froze, and it's uh it's a problem I've got with aging.
SPEAKER_01And flatulence on the uh on the on the uh that episode would be might be a problem. Well that that'd be a chair squeak.
SPEAKER_00That would be uh that would be an improvement, I think. But I did a little bit of a Mitch McConnell early on in the thing, and uh, you know, it scares me when that happens, but and I started just to ditch the episode, but the rest of it was so good. Mary Kay was great on it. So tell some of the viewers what that Mitch McConnell uh thing was. Well they know. You know, I don't really know. I mean, he just froze. Uh it's it's mind related, I guess. And you said that's happened to you before.
SPEAKER_01It's happened to me before, but it's been it's been a while. Usually I can come out of it pretty quickly, like within a couple seconds.
SPEAKER_00But well, she thought I was on drugs or something. Uh she she said, What were you on? And I had things for anxiety that I take, and there was a lot of reasons I have anxiety, but uh not related to the uh podcast. But uh no, this happens to me whether I'm on drugs or not on drugs. And uh I just think it's the you know, I I was watching uh Jim Jeffrey's uh episode that he talked about uh he'd been out with his son and they'd gotten food somewhere and they got food poisoning. Did you see that one? Oh, they got got food poisoning where they were, and uh he said he came home and his son started having a massive attack of diarrhoea. Just he could hear him from the bathroom just and he said I was laughing because because the kid had never experienced it. And then he was like, he's a very young kid, like six or seven or something like that. And then he heard him scream out saying, I guess this is me now. I guess we've all of us have thought that at one time or another. Yeah, well, I it kind of ran through my mind when I blew it when I had the little freezing attack. But and I and I'm leaving things like that in because it's honest and I'm not ashamed of it. Uh it's embarrassing, but you know what? So am I. You ain't gonna lie. You ain't gonna lie. And no, not not gonna lie to you, it wasn't good, but uh but yeah, we you know we were but uh what are we gonna do, Ed? I think we should trade off with ideas and just see where we go. You want to start with your ideas? You want me to? Yeah, I would like that. Okay.
Sports Interview Cliches Breakdown
SPEAKER_00Well, uh okay. All right. I was watching basketball. You know basketball. I know a little bit about basketball, yeah. You've been a Cats fan for uh 70 years. 70 years. Yeah. 70 years. And uh I was watching, and one of the things that they say all the time, uh they'll you know, they had the same things that they say, or it it wears me down. I know now it's part of the lexicon, it's part of just what you're supposed to say when you get interviewed. If you have, you know, I'd like to see Adolf Rep, if they told him he had to talk uh to reporters before halftime during the course of the course of the game. Imagine that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it would have been a John Wooden the same way, Hank Ivo, all these guys.
SPEAKER_00I can, but I didn't see Rubb just because I know the anger's boiling in. Uh uh, but yeah, they ask them all the same damn questions and they do it, you know, it's just ridiculous. Uh one of the things that they say that I noticed, and I want to discuss, is they talk about how these boys need to leave it on the court. Leave it all on the court. Leave it all on the court. In football, of course, leave it all on the field. I don't know in baseball, do they leave it anywhere? They leave it on the field. They'll leave it in the diamond. Probably second base.
SPEAKER_01Whatever it is they're leaving.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I'm not sure that leaving it all on the court is a good thing. I mean, what happened? I think they should take something with them. I think so. How what if you left everything on the court, all of it? Which is a lot like all.
SPEAKER_01If everything all.
SPEAKER_00If you if you take it and you leave it all on the court and then you lose, where do you go? You can't go anywhere. No. You're all you're there on the court. That's right. They're just cleaning you up. That's what those mop guys are out there for. Uh I seriously though, I I do think when you say stuff like that, uh, I understand why they're saying it. They want to say the boys are given maximum effort.
SPEAKER_01That and it's usually the color commentator that's using that line.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's seldom the play-by-play guy, two different positions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's different. He leaves it all in the court every time. Well, he can't, because once it's all there, uh somebody's gonna scrape it up and put it back together, I guess. But I I think it presupposes that this is the most important thing ever in your life. That there's not anything after that. Now am I being am I going too deep on that?
SPEAKER_01Um maybe a little bit, but but I and I get it. The one, and I hope I don't get you off track here, the one that it's always interesting to me, and they don't I don't care it as much these days, is he's got his game face on. Oh, again. Which what's that? And you if you remember, Bobby Knight really took that and ran with it in a way that was just uh hilarious in one way and very uh AH in other ways.
SPEAKER_00And the other thing too, all these uh when they get insulted in some way, you know, that some of the somebody says something on media, uh they talk, okay, I wouldn't have said that. You don't want to get him fired up now. Was he not gonna give the same effort had they not insulted him?
SPEAKER_01So that's that you're talking about locker room uh postings, aren't you? Yeah, that's someone will say something and then you go, well, I'm gonna put that on a piece of paper in the locker room and have all the boys look at that. And that's gonna make a big, big, big difference for how for the outcome.
SPEAKER_00I assume that it makes no difference. I would think it wouldn't make any difference. Would it make a difference to you? No. No. And uh but but I think even the boys believe it makes a difference because you know they've been told that their whole lives.
SPEAKER_01But but uh sports uh uh is typically full of that kind of trite kind of conversation and observations. Don't you think it is? It is uh I think it's it means really nothing.
SPEAKER_00I'll tell you though, I don't know if you know this. Did you
When Football Had No Commentators
SPEAKER_00know uh the NFL uh they tried a they tried a game one time with no commentators, none. It was called the sounds of football. Did you know that? No, no. Oh, this was back before God, this was a long time back. They just, I think they were probably, if you're being honest, if they're being honest, I'm not saying I'm not being honest, uh, if they're being honest, I think they were trying to get by without any to save money. Yeah, not have to have Yeah, they're not having to pay pay some money. And they play it, it was it was the Miami Dolphins and I think it was the New York Jets, I'm almost positive it was. And I want to say it happened in the 70s. Might have been the 80s. I want to say it happened in the 70s. What did you think about that? You watched it, I guess. I watched it, and I thought, boy, nobody's gonna like this but me. I liked it. I I I don't mind a guy saying three yards, you know, someone's a three yards or uh second and twelve or something. The color stuff, I don't miss. Yeah. I don't need to know their back. I don't even know. You know, I don't need to to pan to their girlfriends that that are in the stands and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01Sports fans don't care about that. No. It's the it's the it's the sports fan that just has the TV on while they're doing something on their phone or something like that, you know, could to occasionally hear something.
SPEAKER_00And you know, what what's really happening now, I mean, we uh and yet I know you're probably on the opposite side of the fence for me on this, but uh the referees or officials in any kind of game and stuff like that, uh I think it I think it hurts to have a colored commentator pointing out all the things that they've missed, the noises they screwed up. I don't know who in their right mind would be a would be a referee or an official or anything like that, because it just it I think it drives up hate from the fans. Uh and this is should be a game. I mean, you can be as rabid as you want about wanting them to win. I'd love for the Bengals to win. And you know, that doesn't happen. I sat through, I sat, I had seasoned dickers of the Bingles, I sat through 25 years of uh ineptitude. But uh, you know, I rooted for them, and then and then after it was over, I went to get eat something. You know, life went on.
Referees As Targets For Hate
SPEAKER_01Let's go back to this hate thing where people become targets. We're living in an environment, an atmosphere of that right now, anyway. Yeah. In politics, especially, people become targets. Um people on the talk shows and things like that become targets. And and it's easy to hate in this day because uh as much for that because of the internet as anything else. It's easy to hate people. And we've talked a little bit about that.
SPEAKER_00You've tried to eliminate that from your I no, I have no, I don't try to eliminate it, but I try to limit it uh to really important stuff. I can work up some hate for uh politics, that and and so I try to stay away from as much as because I think right now we're just gonna we're just surviving. I agree with that. I don't think anybody's uh I I don't I hope that none of this is permanent. And uh I hear a lot of people who don't think it is, but uh I can work up some hate for some of that. What I uh, you know, what I don't want to do is work up that kind of hate for an official. First of all, that's a tough job.
SPEAKER_01It's it's really hard. It's really difficult. I wouldn't want to do it. No, I I wouldn't want to do it.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you you've raised hell with some of them though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I have. In fact, I've written to the to the local newspaper about some of them in my youth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I write letters to the editor.
SPEAKER_00At least not last week or either. I was in my twenties, but I thought it was more important maybe then than it is to me now, I guess. Yeah, uh but it is, I mean, I don't know why everybody would do it, because there is no, you must be. I mean, these guys have gone through all kinds of training and stuff, and they're doing the best they can. If they, you know, there are so many. Every place seems like there's two sides to the story. Right. And I just try to roll with it, whatever it is. They go, oh man, we got screwed on that plate. Okay, what's next?
SPEAKER_01You know, especially for the NBA, those guys are big, they're fast, and the course probably not big enough. They probably need to do something, you know, years ago they talked about expanding the foul lane and things like that, make it wider. They talked about it uh maybe making the baskets a little bit higher because it's a nerf ball dunk for most of the guys in the NBA these days. So uh, you know, but they I agree with you that because the game has changed, or maybe not agree, but the game has changed enough that it makes it difficult for any official to to referee it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and okay, well let's come to a deeper problem. Fan
Gambling Turns Every Call Toxic
SPEAKER_00duel. You know, yeah. That hasn't helped things. No, it hasn't. Then the officials become have even more of a target on the things. Exactly. The fan now has uh vested interest. Yes. And whether not only just whether they win or lose, but whether that last pitch was a ball or a strike. Uh it's gotten down to that. And I used to have no problem with uh betting. To me, it's fine. You go to the horse races and rooting interest in the thing. You have a rooting interest in the thing. Uh I've been in football pools, you know, where you put money in, you know, a small amount of money and all that. Now that they've done things where they're they're literally betting on everything that's happened, they're betting on coin tosses, they're betting on uh what color hat that somebody's gonna lose. It's crazy. It's crazy, and all it does was is it gets people fired up because they in a lot of cases these people have not just some money, they have a lot of money riding on. They're mad when they're when their team is uh not winning quite enough, but could have scored a a field goal on the last play and and chose to uh stand down on it. Right. And because it changes the whole betting line. I I don't like that. I don't like it. And uh you watch the college game. Part of the reason why they're checking on every play to make sure that they get the right call, the best call that they can get out of it, is because people have money on it. It's not because they want to get the call right. Hell, we never cared about that past. It always gave us something to complain about afterwards.
SPEAKER_01And for the average viewer, that's slowing the game down to the point where it's uh almost unwatchable in uh a lot of situations. To me, it is. Yeah. And deliberate on the last call, it slows it down to the point that I it's just not as much fun.
SPEAKER_00You know what I wanted to say, uh I talked about different big events and stuff, and people have it. Now they have bets on everything. It slows the game down. There are there's no college teams anymore. It does none. These are professional players. They had a guy for Florida the other day, I think it was Florida, no, Mississippi. A quarterback from Mississippi uh filed to get his seventh year of eligibility. Now think about that. People will say, well, I don't think he should get that. Okay, I get it. Do you get why he's doing it?
SPEAKER_01He's not because the the the uh uh the regulations allow for it.
SPEAKER_00And so he's not gonna get any money in the other fellow. He's not good enough to get it. No, no, so he's hanging as long as he can. You know, once he gets paid a million dollars, maybe a million dollars, and we're telling them, no, you can't do that. We're gonna well they're gonna run into problems. I think the very guys that get turned down and stuff like that, they have to go back and say, what kind of authority do they have? And just because the president says they only get five years, that's not gonna be it's gonna be decided in reports. Right. Uh but anyway, I you know, I think I I think we kind of used this up, don't you think? Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_01And he got kind of serious there at the end of it.
SPEAKER_00It did in the beginning, which is okay. Shouldn't we tell a dick joke or something then?
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. I'm gonna ch I'm gonna push the clutch in and change gears because I'm gonna talk about something that I think it would be fun for most people.
Jimmy Buffett And Selling A Life
SPEAKER_01My wife would say, Oh, there you go again, two old men talking about the past, but I don't care. That's what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's me now. But this is more topical, but not so much. So um I I just uh uh it's been at least two years, I guess, since I found out that my hero, Jimmy Buffett, passed away from cancer. And um I haven't I've listened to some of his music since then. But the other day I happened upon um a book that he'd written called A Pirate Looks at Fifty. I I remember that. Now now for you folks who don't have any idea what that means, and I hope there are a few, but he one of his great, great songs was A Pirate Looks at Forty. And it's about life passing him by or he's born too late. He's he doesn't he doesn't fit in the world um as as he wants to because he missed his opportunity. He should have been living during this time, but now he's living in this time. And this book uh Buffett wrote just uh a few years back, it might be as as old as five or six years. Well, it's way older than that because he was fifty years old when when he wrote the book.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I think when he died he was 78, maybe. So this has been quite some time back, but I just realized it was out there for some reason or another. Make a long story maybe long a little bit longer. Um I I was listening to you know, you know, I I've had people say, Well, I really don't care for that music. He wasn't selling music. No, he was selling a th a lifestyle. Yeah, he was selling a lifestyle that people that guys maybe mine your age, Joe, and maybe younger, maybe older, but certainly our age, think, man, could that have been a better existence in this entire world to to be doing exactly what you wanted, making money at the same time. In fact, big money. But he talks about those early years when he was just bopping around in these bars and things like that. And he's and he talks about how even then he knew that he'd found his his place in the world because he was uh as early as 17, 18, he was playing music, he was in bars, he was drinking a little beer, he he was hanging out with women his age and older. But he and uh and throughout his lifetime, it's been about the boat, it's been about the water, it's been about the music, it's been about all those things that we just imagined ourselves even when we were younger, uh lying under a tree in the summertime thinking that might be the great uh great career, you know, for anybody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's sort of Todd Sawyerish kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_00I I have felt that same way about a lot of things, and it it we'll make a different example of it. I I missed the I I missed the gene that makes you want to be successful and make a lot of money. Well, me too. Uh I did do some things that helped me make some money, but uh the things that I enjoyed, uh like the painting and stuff like that, I think the it makes me feel so good when somebody sees some art that I create and they want it. That's it. It's not the money, hell right. The money is spent tomorrow. And I bet he felt the same way. Yes.
SPEAKER_01He was a billionaire by the time he died, you know, for all of his endeavors.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I know. All of his all of his things. And then change his didn't change a bit. No. He didn't Did I tell you we we were in a movie together?
SPEAKER_01Uh I think you did, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not sitting in the watching the movie. I didn't live.
SPEAKER_00I was in the same scene. Oh, I thought maybe he had a seat in my ears while you got to go. Oh no. We were in Seed Biscuit together. That's right. You told me.
SPEAKER_01And uh they cut his part out to me.
SPEAKER_00They did. Yeah, what what happened was they had him, he actually had a speaking part.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we were over at uh Eastern State Hospitals where they were shooting some seats. It was raining. Um you just out for the day from uh Eastern State. I mean, just you know, furlough? Uh yeah, furlough for me. Uh uh, but no, the with the scene was supposed to be something that happened, like it's in front of the oh, it was when he was injured. Uh uh Toby McGuire's character was was injured, and they were gonna run uh something there. And I think some of those scenes inside the hospital they actually used in the movie. But uh while they were shooting, it was it was really kind of cool because they had all these old cars parked along the walkway. They had uh uh it was winter or late fall, and there were leaves uh that had fallen all around there. It was a Light rain and the uh the funny thing was between scenes they would put leaves back onto the car. Some of the colors the leaves would wash off. Interesting. But we yeah, we did that scene and I walked and walked and walked. I had walked with an umbrella back and forth, back and forth. That was my scene. He was up on the steps and speaking to somebody in the scene. And I never did know who because it wasn't that close. But the crazy thing is, yeah, I end up getting in the movie, not in that part, not in Paris, uh, when we shut in Paris, but Kentucky. Yeah, Paris, Kentucky, yeah. Well, we shot several scenes there. Uh, but uh they cut Jimmy Buffett out, and I thought, really? You would think Jimmy Buffett would get an auto-he would be a pass. You know, you'd think he'd he could go be a race fan or something. They'd use him somewhere in the movie, but they didn't. But I understand what you're saying, Ed. It's it's it's kind of where I've come to in my brain. Uh, and I'm not a star. I'm not w I don't have billions of dollars, but I care more about the art than I do about the money.
SPEAKER_01And that and that gets back to the total theme that I sort of want to stay on a little bit here. And about Jimmy. And I know you'd have some connections. I don't have any connection with Jimmy Buffett at all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you listened to a lot more music. You went to a lot more concerts than I.
SPEAKER_01I think 37 times to see one of performers a lot, then I suppose you're correct about that. But so I knew Jimmy Buffett, um, and uh at least his music. And uh one of the things that he said in, and again, I think my people connect to this, one of the things that he said in this book is he as a a young guy, he realized that he needed something, and this is sort of an aside. He needed
The Boy Scout Backpack Lesson
SPEAKER_01something to carry his his stuff in. And he said, you know, right about that time, men weren't carrying shoulder bags. That was something that men didn't do. They didn't carry shoulder bags, but he needed one because he had stuff that he needed to carry along with him. And he he told about these bags they bought along the way, even bought from an old mailman a bag, an old bag that he'd used and carried that mail pouch from long time, keeping his stuff in it. And the stuff would include uh Swiss Army knife, um, maybe some um some nabs like some peanut butter crackers and stuff like that. Later on, his phone. But he said early on it wasn't a thing that men carried even that kind of thing, but he could pass with that because he was living in New Orleans. Then he was living in Key West. You think he couldn't pass there? Of course he could.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So anyway, um he finally found, he thought, I need a bag, they're all wearing out. I'm in this, um, in this, these uh climates where there's a lot of salt water in the air and it's wearing my bags out. I've got a cloth bag, I've got a straw bag that I bought in Guatemala, but I but they're all wearing out too soon. I'm having you replace them. He said, then I thought, in my mother's house is my old Boy Scout backpack. And he said, I knew it. I knew it had pouches, it had things I could pouches and places that I could keep my stuff in. And then I started to carry that. I carried a Boy Scout handback uh backpack from then on through every place that I went, even as my children came along, even as I got older. It was usually I was usually carrying stuff in my Boy Scout uh backpack. So it was the same backpack the whole time? I think so. It'd be hard to wear those things out. I think I had one all the time. I was in Scouts, and I was in Scouts seven or eight years.
SPEAKER_00Were you an Eagle Scout?
SPEAKER_01I was, yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for your service.
SPEAKER_01You're well you're welcome. But anyway, that that sort of hit home for me in some kind of way. It really did.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And and again, the the music just sticks with me all the time, even now. You know, I sort of sort of hear it. I think, you know, although our our listening audience might be, let's say our listening audience these days is from 45 to 75 years old, that sort of slice or 45 to 75. In that group, I think there are people that know Jimmy Buffett, under have followed Jimmy Buffett, and there's that. So I'm trying to take us away a little bit from two old men reminiscing about the past.
SPEAKER_00Well, and yeah, I mean, I think another theme in this thing is uh I've never see you're built a little differently than I am. I there's no way I could go that many times to see one artist do basically the same songs. I mean, did a lot of the same things. I would say, yeah, listen, uh uh let's do Cheeseburger in Paradise and uh uh Margarita. You do those two, and then you'd be and I'll go home. Yeah, uh, because you know the concert thing is not big for me.
SPEAKER_01Here's another thing, and I'm I'm sort of cutting you off, but I want to make this point.
Going Back Before Time Runs Out
SPEAKER_01Here's another thing that I bet you couldn't do that you might see me doing is I want to go back to those remote places all the time. I want to go back physically. I'm not going back just in my mind. I'm trying to find it so I can go back there. I gotta get on a plane. I gotta go. I want to go. I want to go. I want to go now. And I've got to get it out of my head a little bit because, or or uh, or keep it in my head and just start going more. But I'm missing out on these Jimmy Buffett opportunities. I am.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I am right now, uh Jimmy Buffett or okay, you things like that. But I understand what you're saying, uh, and I feel the same way. I've been a lot of places, you know. I'd love to go back to Pamplona or yeah, we're running out of time. Yeah. Like everybody does it. Everybody's running out of time. We're closer to the end. So what we have to do is do something today to do it. And you and I, you know, when we did that little Wisconsin trip, it's not like the things you're talking about. We didn't get on a plane. We did little things. And it was still a blast. Yeah. And when I went to the American uh sign museum up in Cincinnati, I count those things, I try to give them more weight than I would have back when I was able to do the big things. Right. I mean, hell, I've done some big I've been to the Irish Derby. I've been to the English Derby. I went to Darby, oh, you know, I've been to where they call them derbies. I know you have. I've been to the Galapagos Islands. I I went to Europe, but you've been all over, you've traveled way more than me. Uh if I was gonna say, you know, most of the places I've been, you've been.
SPEAKER_01So but but do don't you see can you say or or see in your own mind's eye somehow there's there's that guy that had that sign in that spot in that um city, that village, that I want to go back and see if he's still there. Because he had a dog. I wonder if he still has that dog. And it was a remote place in uh Nicaragua, and it was in a small village in Nicaragua, and it was over in that corner next to the open air market that I saw this guy with this dog and with this sign. That's that's where I want I want to find that guy.
SPEAKER_00Well, and I mean, you know you can't do everything. And and you're right, the time was running out. Uh, you and I are close. That one already older than my dad was when he passed, and that has bothered me. Yeah, I'm 25 years older than my mother. Yeah. 25 years. Well, that's that's tough.
Small Wins And Losing Friends
SPEAKER_00But I I try to do like I I thought it was really cool that I got a real red-bellied woodpecker. And and I'll have to show you the videos. That's fantastic because I had never seen one except, you know, at out in the woods you'd see a glutton. So I never saw one feeding like this kid. And so I'm trying to create things that I had never done before that don't require as much uh energy and effort as that.
SPEAKER_01To try to get some satisfaction out of some little thing. Yes. If you can. Yeah. And and and we both have the capacity, the capability to do it.
SPEAKER_00I know it. You know it. Uh I'm trying to re uh one of the stages I'm in right now is trying to replace friends that have passed. Uh, you know, you have guys that and and things like the, you know, the golf uh buddies that I had. We played, we played once or twice a week. Are two of those guys gone now or just one? One guy's gone. One guy is uh worse off than me. The the guy that's the oldest is the only one still playing, and I think he said, because he's you know, he's in his mid to late 80s, and he's I think he said now that he's only playing nine holes, probably at parseries and stuff like that, but damn it, he's still playing. Yeah. And it's kind of hard to swing a golf club on one leg. Oh, yeah. The the physics don't work, yeah. Well, listen,
Wrapping Up And Changing Gears
SPEAKER_00we had well the our idea, I think, was wonderful that we'd both come in with something and we'd we'd each have like three ideas. We only got the one each. We got one each, and uh that's okay. Well, I think we uh we accomplished what we set out to do.
SPEAKER_01And I meant to keep something really light there when I started talking about Buffett, and it wound up being a little bit more sober, I suppose.
SPEAKER_00And it's all it's all a mixed bag, hon. Yeah, I mean I just called you Hun, so you know that's how mixed the bag is. Oh my God. That's the way we're gonna end, buddy. So get us out of here.
