(40) "Because I Am Santa Claus!!! Two Friends Trade Stories That Change Perspective."

A daily annoyance can turn into a personal meltdown, or it can turn into a weird little moment of grace. We start with something small but relatable: kids next door keep kicking balls into the yard, and it is getting under our skin. Then we walk through a simple reframing mindset shift that changes the whole vibe. Instead of stewing in frustration, Joe tries an unexpected kindness experiment by buying new soccer balls, complete with an awkward joke that does not land the way he imagined. 

From there we zoom out to the bigger skill behind it all: reframing criticism, managing anger before it hardens into depression, and remembering that even a negative comment can be reinterpreted as proof of connection. We keep it honest about mental health, coping strategies, and the unglamorous work of emotional regulation, especially when your body is limited and your patience is thin. 

Then the storytelling really opens up. Joe shares what it was like to spend early childhood living inside a cemetery, and Ed brings a rural childhood memory that literally leaves skin on the ground. We swap a darkly funny family line about “ricocheting,” and the conversation takes a sharp, sobering turn into a firsthand armed robbery story, including the split-second problem solving that helped everyone survive and the long-term aftershocks that can linger for decades. 

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Joe

Transcript

Welcome And A Better Mindset

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Hey everybody, it is Piltdown Man and the Cardiff Giant. We're at episode 40. Uh, I'm Joe Flush, and this is my partner Ed Penn. Hello, Joe, and everyone listening. Yeah, seems like it was just a few minutes ago that we did an episode, but we're you know it was weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

It was a weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

It should, you know, it's about a week ago. Maybe a week and a half. But uh yeah, it's uh we did one. If you remember back in 37, we did a episode about just oddities of Google Whacking, you know, stuff like you remember the Google Whacking thing.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

I wasn't born even in 1937, Joe. I wasn't born until 1952, so yeah, yeah. Well an episode. Oh, that's episode 37. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

And what were the two words? What were the two words that got me the Google whack?

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Durnick and Doppelganger.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

You got it. Yeah. So ding ding ding, you can remember for a long time. I can. Uh better than a goldfish. But uh, well, I got a little I've been I've been trying to reframe things once again. Things that get me aggravated. Um try not to get I try not to get angry so much, uh, because I mine always manifests itself into some pretty deep depression. And I know yours you're you you clear the pipes. You're you're like my dad. You get it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, I try to.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

I try to most of the time. I mean, maybe you have some depression over it, but I never hear you say when you got up in the morning, uh, all you were thinking was you were disappointed you woke up.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Well, yeah, I I'm not I'm not quite like that. Uh take I do take a I I do take medicine though, you know, that sort of curtails that a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Yeah. Well, I've tried I've tried everything. Yeah. And uh legal and illegal, and uh it doesn't really work for me, but that's okay. Once again, you reframe things and go, okay, this is what instead of saying what I don't have, like uh my ability to use my left leg, I don't have that, but what I do have, my mind is fairly clear. Okay. I said fairly I said fairly. Damn. You you're gonna work on my semantics there a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Uh we'll take it, we'll take 85% at this point, both of us, wouldn't we?

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yeah, I would take, you know, the 5% is not out of the question.

The Soccer Balls Reframe

SPEAKER_00 2:56

But uh, yeah, I the these kids next door. I have a Ukrainian uh family living next door. Not that that makes much difference in the story. And so is that racist for me just to mention that they're Ukrainian? No, are you living in the Ukraine? No, I'm not. Oh, but I but I find I find now that I'm so afraid to say anything because I don't know what might offend somebody. Uh these people seem very nice, except they don't speak English. And uh the only ones that speak English in the household is the massive number of kids that are running around. Uh so uh they keep kicking balls over my fence. They have soccer balls and and plastic balls and all that. So I go out at least every other day, clear the balls out of my yard, throw them back over the fence, and I get it. They they wouldn't come over and clean them up themselves. I I I'm glad they don't because uh Felix goes crazy if somebody comes over. So they just wait until I go out and throw the balls back. Uh they have come to the house door a few times and said, can we go back there? And I'm going, okay, well, let me get the dogs in, let me close the doors, and they go out and get the balls. But that said, I found myself just agitated. It was ball after ball, and I'm hobbling down on one leg, and Mary Kay's not able to navigate steps very well. And uh when I picked up one of the balls to throw it over, it had been worn really big. So I I thought, here's an opportunity to do something different. Think think differently. And I just I ordered some new balls for them. I got on, I got on uh uh I I just ordered a couple of soccer balls and I got actual uh regulation balls and all that. From Amazon, I guess, probably from Amazon, yeah, I did from from Amazon. Yep. And then uh a couple days I get them, you know, they get two-day free shipping or whatever. And I I uh so I go over after after school and everybody's home and ring the doorbell, and I'm holding, I inflated the balls and all that kind of stuff, but that's a different story. Uh but I no, I go over there and ring the doorbell, and a young woman comes to the door, and I start to hand them to her, and she's reaching for them, and I said, I said, This is a new ball. I said, I notice your kids like to play with balls, and some of them are kind of ratty. She nodded her head at me and called for one of the kids. So I get I get a 10-year-old there, and uh he uh he said, What's this? And I so told him the story, and he's still staring at me like he doesn't know what to think. You know, I get it. A creepy old man from next door brought you something. And uh I said, I said, I got you these balls. He said, Why? And I said, Because I'm Santa Claus. I said, I'm a little late. I'm glad you laughed because nobody else moved. He didn't laugh, they didn't laugh, and all that. And so I just finally left the balls there and left, and I thought, what did I think a Ukrainian child was gonna laugh at that joke or understand what I'm doing at all? Uh, but you know, it did reframe it, it made me feel better. I felt like instead of just having those negative feelings, I feel positive. I feel like, yeah, I did something, you know?

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

And and it did it make a difference. It made a difference for me. Yeah. So I'm not trying to preach anybody about doing that. You don't have to. You got your own life and you make your own decisions.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

We don't have any Ukrainian neighbors near here, Joe. So no need for you to buy soccer balls. I'm not gonna do it, probably.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Uh thanks for the but again, you know, I I do have to remind myself to reframe things and try to take uh like I want to put in a butterfly bush in the back, the one I had that looked so great last year died out, and yeah, it it needs to be replaced, the hole dug out and all that. And digging a hole, as I think I've mentioned before, is uh a challenge for a guy on one leg. Yeah. My my doctor, my foot doctor said, How in the hell do you dig a hole uh with your just your right leg being good? And I said, You find a place to fall. That's the most important step, and then you just dig it out a little at a time and you fall a lot. And uh he thought that was a little crazy.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Uh but I like the idea of reframing uh because well, you and I both get um AARP magazine, don't we, for retired people. For and and I see uh suggestions like that for and it's not just for retired people, obviously it would be a good sort of rule or a good thing for anybody to if something uh like that occurs or anything, you can reframe it any number of different ways, I suppose. Um, and I think that's that's a credit to you to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

So I don't I don't know. I'm not you know, I'm I'm definitely not bragging. Uh I'm not I'm not uh I'm not built that way, but I can say that there are things like uh it helps me like when you get criticism.

Handling Criticism Without Spiraling

SPEAKER_00 8:56

We've had we've had a lot of comments on on what we're doing here. Most of them, you know, 99% of them are really positive, encouraging stuff. And uh in fact, I got one this morning from my friend Brian. He sent that to you too, didn't he?

SPEAKER_02 9:13

He did, yes. Brian and I are friends on Facebook now.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Yeah, I mean, gosh, that's to me, that's the word the whole podcast thing is making new friends and stuff like that. But anyway, uh we do get some that are not that great, you know, and and the suggestions that we do different things and all that. And uh what I've decided now is I'm I'm not gonna try to argue with your point. I have to frame it like they are sending us a comment, and uh which means we should we should be happy, and it means that they're listening in order to make a comment. So a lot of them that have commented are not listening, according to them. Or that I don't know how that works, didn't I? But uh I you know I thought I I thought maybe we ought to continue with some of the odd oddities that have uh happened in our life. I I mentioned my dumbass whale thing uh from court from the court, which uh still baffles me a bit. And you know, we mentioned several things in that last episode, but we got plenty of others.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Well, it's uh it's uh uh three episodes ago. It was 37, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

It was 37, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

But uh Ed, I I'll I'll start with another one then. Since since I always seem to be starting, you know, it's just my nature.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

I can't oh you don't want to go tit for tat.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Okay. No, I want to dominate you in some of which way, and and and that means I I do what I want first.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Yeah, yeah, you change the rules on me. That's fine. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

That's fine. No, I I think I don't know this is not a long story or anything, but I I think that I may have mentioned, but maybe I didn't.

Growing Up Inside A Cemetery

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Uh I was raised in a cemetery for three years. And I'm not talking about, you know, in in a little house outside the cemetery, or we had an apartment. No, we were in the cemetery and uh for three years, and I had no knowledge that that wasn't normal stuff. Uh very odd, but my dad was a grave digger, and so and my parents didn't have much money, so I guess they rented a little place, or maybe it was part of the uh perks for being a gravedigger or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

They're located in the cemetery. Yeah, it and the house, the house is still there. At first I thought it could have been a mausoleum, and they just told you it was a little house that you could rent. So, but it was an actual house.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

That's not like some of the comedy gigs I did. I did a gig one time, I think it was in Harlan. Uh they did, and it was a very small gig, and it was uh not a particular uh fun one. But I got out and the guy goes, I got a room for you to stay in overnight. And he opens a door, and it's a concrete block building, no windows in it. All there was there was a a bed shoved in there, like a little trundle bed. Oh, nice. And and I I got I got in there and I laid there for about five minutes. I thought I there's no way I'm gonna sleep, so I might as well get back in the car and drive home. So that's what I did. But no, in this uh place it was a house, and uh, you know, my dad uh he had so many good stories and so many uh those years that he worked at the cemetery affected him in big ways and mostly positive. So it was kind of a cool thing. Uh I I like to tell people I was born in the cemetery, but uh that's not quite. I was I was in a hospital, this old St. Joe's hospital for three or four days and then moved to the cemetery.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

That's a good story. I like it. All right, you're up. All right.

Pony Express Gone Very Wrong

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Uh I I think um I typically think that my stories aren't quite as weird, maybe as yours. That's that's a weird story.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

But um Have you met me? Have you met me? Yeah, I think that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

But all of us have a story or two, and uh but I uh mine is just sort of when I was a kid, I I read books, I read Huckleberry Finn, I read Tom Sawyer, and those kinds of books when I by the time I was eight or nine years old. And uh admittedly, I admit now that I I thought I was sort of one of those characters throughout my youth, from the time I was eight or nine years old until I was, you know, what 38, 38 years old.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

But we we kind of were though.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Yeah, pretty much. But anyway, I my I lived out in the country and I was all we were always looking for things to do, and some of the things were easy to find because we had we had livestock, or at least we had we had ponies uh slash horses, and uh as well as some other things, but the the ponies and the horses were the things that that I remember most. And um we had a had a lot. We didn't have much land out in the country, it was just like an acre, but my dad had had built a fence and we had a uh a couple of ponies inside this paddock. And um sooner or later the all the paddock would get worn down in the summertime, especially in in the late summer, like um August or um early August to September. Typically in Kentucky, we seem to get droughts right around that time, more so maybe even than we do now, because it's always seemed like the ground was really hard and uh and it was hot to me at in the country. But anyway, I I had a pony that I'd been trying to trying to ride, and he thrown me three or four different times. But my uncle was with me one day, he was staying overnight, he was a couple years older than me. And uh we decided uh I had two ponies, we were gonna play Pony Express, and we'd seen it on we'd seen Roy Rogers movies and and television shows and stuff like that, so we figured we knew how to do it. So anyway, my dad had said don't ride that that foal because it's not old enough yet. Um, even though you're not a huge kid at nine or ten years old, you're still probably too big to be riding that pony. Well, I did it anyway. So he was at work and and I and I typically rode without a saddle, and most of the time without even a without even a bridle. I just used the harness or or the halter um to move to steer the horse or the pony. But anyway, we were playing Pony Express and and I came around this bar our barn in the back, and again, it was hotter, hotter than Hades. It really was. It was 90 degrees in the shade, it hadn't rained for three or four weeks, and all I could see was dust when I rounded the the corner of the barn. And right about that time, um I sort of shifted uh up in a way on on the pony, and the pony fell with me rounding the rounding the barn, and it continued to fall because we were going so fast for about 20 feet. And and I couldn't get out from under the the pony. And the pony was pretty good size. And I thought, uh, you know, is this gonna kill me? And it didn't. I'm still still here. Uh but anyway probably would if it happened now. I it would certainly, but anyway, it dragged me and dragged me and dragged me for 25, 20 to 25 feet on that hard ground. I had on a pair of shorts and and uh t-shirt and tennis shoes, and it um finally I was able to get the pony stopped and it jumped up and and um I had torn all the skin off the sides of my legs, all the skin off the uh the arms that were my arms and forearms and shoulders, and uh my right the right side of my face. So all that skin was down to the epidermis. So it just ripped me. It just totally ripped me, and I thought, this is not good, and I was more concerned with what my father was gonna say because I really was. I thought I'm kind of injured. I don't think I need to go to the hospital, but I was more concerned about how my father would find out about this, and uh, you know, I'd be held to pay. How'd your how'd your mom react? My mother was just concerned more than anything, you know. She I was standing there, I I got out of the paddock, and um my uncle was with me, and we were standing there, and she said, and of course I cried. It just I was nine. And uh she said, I think you're all right, I think you're okay. She said, Well uh we'll go into it. And about that time I thought that's gonna take a lot of iodine andor thiolate to take care of all the all this this skin that's uh that I've ripped off. But uh but but I don't think that you know I look back on that on that and think you know, uh uh all my peers that lived out in the country had similar stories to that. Yeah. So it wasn't totally unusual to for a story like to have a story like

Polio Braces And The Ricochet Line

SPEAKER_02 18:35

that.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

I gotta tell you, boy, uh I have a like a second cousin uh somewhere what younger than me, I think he was near my sister's age, uh named Bobby, and I I we rarely saw him, but Bobby had uh polio, and and he had these massive uh braces on his legs the whole time he's growing up, and he still wanted to be hooked in just like everybody else, of course. And and my uh my grandpa hall, uh I mean, I'm sorry, this was Grandpa Orham's house. At his house, he had a set of steps that were like uh I I'm you know, I'm a kid, so I'm probably seeing them bigger than they were, but eight or ten steps and they went out. It wasn't just like they went straight down, they went kind of fanned out. Right. And we played this game where we tried to see how far we could jump. We start, you know, from the bottom, see if you can jump one step, and by the time you got to the top of it, like eight or nine steps up, it was it was a big haul to get uh down there to even clear the steps. You just you'd just gone up, and the the landing was not planned out whatsoever. Oh gosh. So so all of us, my uh my cousin Mikey, I I did it, he did it. I don't think Suzanne did, but uh but then uh uh Bobby's older brother did it, and he and then uh he said, I'm gonna do it. And we're going, uh, you know, I I don't think that's a good idea. You're in those braces. And uh he said, I'll be fine. He wanted to be part of the gang, so and he he he made the jump and he made it a landing. He he made it all the way to the landing, but he did break his legs upon the landing, and his mother came out and said, I told you you should not jump places. And he said, I didn't jump, I ricocheted. Both he and his brother have passed on since, but I remember that about it. It seems to come up every time I think about them, I think of that ricochet stuff. And so I'm trying to use it myself. If I fall and somebody goes, Oh, you shouldn't be falling, man. We've got enough falling ricocheting.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

But you and our parents would you if you remember this, and we've sort of talked about it before, I suppose, but our parents would just say, Hey, you probably ought not do that. Yeah. And it wouldn't be don't do that most of the time. It would be it's probably better if you don't do that, my mother would say. And and of course, you know, if if I had a choice, then I was gonna probably do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

And listen, dad had done dad had done so much worse than when he was growing up that I thought he he didn't he was always kind of proud when he didn't stupid.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

But well, I've I've I've got a little another little story to tell. You uh you can go first if you want to, but mine's mine's a bit more um sober slash somber. Of a story, but it's uh it's a weird one. It's uh it's worth telling.

A Gunpoint Robbery And Quick Thinking

SPEAKER_02 22:05

So um I was about twenty two years old, and I was working in a clothing store, a men's clothing store, selling men's clothing, which is what the uh people do when they work in a men's clothing store. And and and you looked you were a 7.5 at that time, weren't you? I was a 7.5 easy back in when I was 22. And everybody I knew it, and everybody else knew it too. But anyway, I I was working in a men's clothing store, and my boss was out for the day, and I was standing in the back of the store. We had a had a lady that was working with us. Uh, this this the background of this is that it was in Georgetown, Kentucky, and uh I was standing in the back of the store talking on the phone, probably talking to a customer, and and uh I got off the phone. I saw this uh this young guy, um probably my age or close to it, maybe a little bit younger, uh walking toward me, and he had had some neckties in his hand, in his hands. Yeah. And what I didn't see was the the revolver, the handgun that just right in the middle of the neckties. When I saw the neckties, I immediately thought, well, that's a pretty good sale. You know, I could I'm making a little bit of a commission on on this sale. And then I saw the handgun. And um, and I it it of course it took me by surprise. Uh, and I couldn't, I uh my mind couldn't handle it. And I I think that's what happens a lot of times in traumatic sorts of situations. I I thought, what's he gonna do, what's he doing with that? And he pushed it up, the revolver, hit the handgun up against my chest, right at my sternum. And he said, I need you to walk back in the office and uh and give me all the cash that you've got on hand. And so I turned my back and I thought, am I missing out on opportunities here? Because this could this could evolve or devolve in a way that's not going to be good for anybody. Uh the lady that was working with me was back in the office and she was uh we had an inventory of shirts that she was stamping with uh with the price on each shirt. And I walked back there and he's behind me. And uh I I said I talked to her and I said, why don't you go back there further back into the office there? And I named her and I'm not gonna do it for for this uh episode or this podcast. But anyway, she looked at me and she but we were always kidding each other, and she couldn't she couldn't wrap her mind around that. And I said, go back there in that corner over there and stand. And then in the meantime, this guy came in and put the gun to the back of my the handgun to the back of my head and up my nose and in my ear. And uh he said, you still stay right here. He said, I'm gonna tie both of you all up, and I want you I want you to stay right where you are, tell me where the money is, blah, blah, blah. And I said, you know, we don't keep any cash back here. I was trying to do the thing that you hear that you should do in a situation like that, trying to placate him in a way that he could get what he needed and go. So I said, uh, all of our money, uh, which all of our cash is in the cash drawer in the middle of the store. And uh I said, to be honest with you, most of it's credit card receipts. That's what you're gonna find when you go up there. So uh in the meantime, he pushed me down and tied my hands behind my back and sort of tied my feet uh a little bit. And uh her as well, the the lady that was working with us, finally she he pulled her over there and he said, Both of you guys stay right here because I guarantee you that I'll shoot you in the head if you if I you cause any ruckus. So uh it seemed pretty serious to me. Um so we we were both tied and he'd gone back up to the and and uh she was gagged and I wasn't. And I said, Listen, we've got to figure this out. And it's it's it's amazing how your mind can work in a in a situation like that, because it you're thinking about what are the po what are the options here? You know, what are my options? I've got to figure out what the best option is, and I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to try that. But in the meantime, the phone in our office uh was on a desk in the office and it rang. And I jumped up and I sort of jumped off, jumped over the desk and and I hit it with my head and knocked knocked the receiver off, and it was whirling around like in a movie or something, whirling around on the floor. And I could hear somebody on the other end, and coincidentally, it was my sister. Oh my god. So I wasn't able by that time he'd he left the um the middle of the store and gotten back, and he could see what was happening, and he slammed the phone down, but in the meantime she could hear the ruckus going on. So um she I I don't think she called the police at that specific time, but he said, I'm gonna push you back there in the hallway, blah, blah, blah. He said, because and don't come back up here. If you move back here, um, I'm gonna come back here and shoot you in the head. So there was a door that was adjacent to another business that we had there on Main Street in Georgetown. It was called Thompson's Hardware. And there was an area back there in the back that had a locked door that I could get over it into the into his location where he had a bunch of roadsillers and mowers that he was servicing back there. And but I knew that that was a locked door, but I could get through it, and he didn't see it. The guy that was robbing us didn't see that door. So as soon as I watched him go all the way up the hallway and it was dark. And as soon as he went up the hallway, I jumped up and grabbed the doorknob of that and flipped myself over into the uh adjacent uh store, the Thompson's hardware store. And uh about that time I was able to jump, I still had my feet tied. Oh wow. And I was able to jump over some rotor tillers and some lawnmowers. Make a long story short, uh, they were able to call the police from there. But it was it was pretty serious there for a good long while. Pretty, pretty, pretty serious. The only thing I'm wondering about that now, you said how old were you, 21? I was 21 or 22, I think, at the most, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

And you didn't try to you didn't try to rescue the woman or anything.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

It well, you know, I I was doing the best I could for both of us.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

I think for this, I think for the story purposes, you rescued her and brought her to safety.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Let's call it that. Let's put that's a parenthetical for the story. And you forget if it's written out, that's a artistic license, you know. That's like poetic and artistic license. Yes. But uh, you know, it it affected both of us for and and it still probably affects us in some ways today.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

I I don't know that I could have ever gotten over it because uh my brain would shut down. I don't know what I would do.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

But I think you'd be thinking fast. I think you'd barely be thinking fast.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

I don't know. I I think it kind of frees up in situations like that. But I think you did a wonderful job for that.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Well, I I guess we're both uh she and I are both still here above ground. So but I I look you know it but it's typical uh you know me as well as as anybody knows me, probably. Um the uh the I can be a little bit let's see how how can I word this? I I'm I'm proactive in a bunch of different ways. Yeah. So so I knew that that was my default, the proactive part of that of it, but I didn't know exactly what that proactive part of it was gonna look like, you know. But and then it turned out it turned out okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

So you know, I want to think of myself that way too. Um but here's the way I'm proactive. If I if I anticipate something, uh but but something complete surprise. I uh you know, my being robbed and something we didn't really think of. I mean, there there are other silly things that have happened where I've had to be a little bit proactive and all that, not compared to something as dangerous as that.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Yeah, I thought this was I thought it was it for me and her both, because he didn't have any kind of mask on or anything. I'd gotten a good look at him, you know, and and um but uh it it it affected both of us long term. I still have some uh nightmares about it, and in my nightmare I'm s I'm saying to this person that's robbing me, listen, I've already done this before. I shouldn't have to do this again. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

And and you probably went to work the next day.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

I did, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Oh God. They would never have seen my ass again.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

Uh but but I know. And and you probably went from a 7.5 to down to about a 7.2 just on that. You probably dropped starting that day. Probably.

Gratitude For Listeners And Requests

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Anyway, well, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, Ed. Uh I I don't think I want to follow that with any kind of cutesy story or anything of mine. So why don't we uh end on that and say uh and and I do want to say this at the end, I haven't really said it lately. If you guys have ideas, things that you'd like to hear us talk about, uh we take all kinds of suggestions. That doesn't mean we're gonna do them, but but we love uh getting feedback and suggestions and all that. And if you think, you know, like one person said, uh just an average podcast, well, uh okay, thanks. I I appreciate that as well. And uh in fact, sometimes I'm excited because I think average, wow, that means you know, there's half of them are worth through.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

We're seeking, we're we're moving up to average, we're trying to move up to average now.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

But but you know, we're we're now heard in 35 countries. Uh and I never anticipated that at all. I mean, that no. I did I just didn't see that ever happening. But so we're grateful for every little step. We're reframing things, and uh we we just wanna the two of us are just gonna make each other laugh, and then hopefully some of you guys along the way will learn some things or laugh or whatever whatever your response is. And uh I just want to say thanks again. So I want you play us out of here, Ed.