(51) "Hot Dogs, Firecrackers, Independence Day Trivia , And Why Getting a B- On a History Project Might Get Overturned By The President"

The Fourth of July comes with a script: fireworks, hot dogs, and a few history buzzwords we all think we know. We wanted to slow that down and talk like real people do, starting with the small stuff that actually shapes the holiday: family visits, backyard food, and those childhood traditions that still feel vivid decades later. We also get a little personal about the podcast itself, why subscribing matters on Spotify, YouTube, or Apple Podcasts, and how one share can bring the right new listener into the mix.

Then we veer into the fun kind of fact-checking. We own a couple of mistakes, take a detour through travel talk, and land back on Independence Day with some genuinely surprising U.S. history. The Declaration of Independence timeline is messier than the posters suggest, and we dig into memorable details like Mary Katherine Goddard printing copies with her name on them, one signer who later tried to erase evidence, and the story of a King George III statue getting melted into thousands of musket balls. If you like American history trivia, this is the good stuff.

Of course, it wouldn’t be a Fourth of July conversation without food and noise. We talk about the jaw-dropping number of hot dogs eaten around the holiday, the absurdity of competitive eating, and a very real reminder for pet owners: fireworks can be brutal on dogs. We wrap with more Independence Day oddities, from Fort Knox to the Liberty Bell, plus the 50-star flag design story that starts with a kid, a school project, and a B-minus.

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Transcript

Welcome And Holiday Kickoff

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Hey everybody, it's Piltdown Man and the Cardiff Giant. We're in episode 51, and this is our 4th of July episode. My name is Joe Flush, and here's my partner, Eddie. Hey guys, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:34

What's up, Eddie? Not much. Uh just thinking about the 4th of July. Like we're having days.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

I know, I know, but I before we start that, man. Well, I

Subscribes, Feedback, And Sharing

SPEAKER_00 0:45

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SPEAKER_01 2:22

Yeah, it uh we take that. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Yeah, because the world is big, and uh we got we got one for the last episode from uh uh well two episodes ago from Madrid, and that you know that is nice to hear and nice to know that you're spreading it around. We have uh 38 countries now that we're heard in. So we're happy about that. Now that I've done my commercial thing, and and my daughter will probably be mad because I haven't I don't do it on a regular basis, but I always feel like I'm bothering somebody. Do you feel that way? Most of the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

About 99% of the time, yeah. Regardless of what it is.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Well, you know, you know, the thing is we can put it out there, and then if somebody doesn't want to do it, uh I don't think we're putting a gun to their head, but we do uh

Apologies And Travel Mix-Ups

SPEAKER_00 3:20

we do have a lot of things going on. We want to get to the 4th of July, but I think first, Eddie, it's time for you to make your apologies.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

I've got well, let's do, yes, a little bit of house cleaning. I th I think early on we we explained to our listeners that we're no one's uh ever gonna uh confuse us with a podcast that's overproduced. Because we as we um do these podcasts, um we decided that we wouldn't make correct, we wouldn't make any editing after the fact. We'd just go with what with what we've done. So in that vein, uh about uh three or four or five episodes ago, um uh we were talking about my travels specifically to Machu Picchu in uh Peru. And um with apologies to apologies to the Inca civilization, I said the Aztecs, I used the word, I use the civilization Aztecs, the Aztecs civilization, instead of the Inca civilization who happened to um who happened to establish Machu Picchu. I know that it's I know it was the Incas, I know it was the Incan civilization, I know it's not the Aztecs, I know it's not the Aztec civilization. So I'm just saying, um I'm correcting that right now. I'm not sure that we've gotten any feedback uh on that at all, have we, Joe, that that I know about.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

No, no Aztecs or Incans have uh complained about that.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

And there may be descendants of those people, though, Joe. It could be, you know, we take offense at that, saying that guy's bragging about his world travels and he doesn't even know what he's seeing. But anyway, apologies to those folks.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Hey, I just mentioned uh in the last episode, I just talked about uh uh the Bastille in Italy. That's right. So do you want to correct that now? Or we could I don't. I I like going with my mistakes. I'm I'm gonna double down. I think there could be a Bastille in Italy as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Did you know where it is? I'll tell you where it is. It's right next to the leaning tower of Pisa, which happens to be in Italy. Did you know that? That's where the Bastille is. That's where it is.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Well, is it is it uh a Bastille, though?

SPEAKER_01 5:44

It is, that's what I'm saying. It might as well be there. It might as well be there.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

It's not well it's not well built.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Why is that a thing, it?

SPEAKER_01 5:56

I don't know. We've got we've got a lot of we've got a lot of leaning buildings here in the United States, don't we? In America, I guess, northern North America. So, and we don't make a big deal about it. In fact, eventually we raised those buildings.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yes. So we didn't raise them up, we raised Yeah, the Tangan raise. Well, they've gone they've they've gone a lot of trouble there to keep that building up. You know, they've if you read about the things that they've done to to try to keep it from completely falling over. And uh I think that's interesting because I was asking about it when I was when I was going uh to Italy to Rome, and Rome is also in Italy, by the way. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Did you know?

SPEAKER_01 6:43

You're just doing that for your own benefit, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Yeah, I'm reminding myself. And I guess the I guess the Colosseum is the best deal. It could be. That's right, could be. Uh, but no, when I was over there and I thought, well, I might go over to Pisa and see that thing. You know, do do that little uh pose that you're supposed to be doing where you put your hands and act like you're holding it up. That's right. You know, that's always a really clever thing, I think.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

It is.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Uh, but no, my my uh the person that was setting my trip up said, Do you really want to go there? They said, she said, it's a long way out of your way, and that's all that's there.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Well, maybe not then.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Yeah, so I I decided to pass on it, and uh it never was a huge thing in my on my list anyway.

Old-School Fourth Of July Picnics

SPEAKER_00 7:39

But well, what are you planning for the 4th of July, Eddie?

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Well, you know, I'm not I'm not planning very much. We just had family into town. Uh Emily had my wife Emily had her 64th birthday, and you know how much how important that was to the Beatles. Uh and it was frankly, I guess just as important to Emily because we had a 64, we had some relatives in from out of town and had a small party. But um so uh as far as 4th of July, that's right around the corner for another family get together, I suppose. And uh I I don't know whether any, you know, typically what what we used to do when I was a kid, it it was a bigger deal somehow or another for me, I guess. Yeah. Um we had a we had a not just my nuclear family, my mother and father and sister, but uh we had a lot of aunts and uncles and cousins that would gather on the 4th of July. And uh typically we'd go to a place in um in Kentucky, in a specific part of Kentucky, in a specific town, Frankfurt, uh, and it was called the Fish Hatchery. And that's what they did, they hatched fish there. You know, that's that's the reason they called the fish hatchery. So anyway, uh it was along Elkhorn Creek in Franklin County, and we'd have a picnic, we'd have chicken, fried chicken, and uh all the things that go with it. My my aunt would fix uh blackberry cobbler, uh, we'd have watermelon and cantaloupe and stuff like that, and the kids would play in the creek all day. But uh that's been many years ago. Uh that's been at least 40 years ago, 45, 50 years ago, closer probably to it, I would guess by now. Uh what about you?

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, well, we did pretty much the same. I mean, uh what I remember, you know, mainly is of the grilling out. Uh yeah. Dad dad did dad was almost as good a cook as I am. He he he could get the grill and grill up some burgers or uh hot dogs particularly uh we even have steak sometimes. Well, all right. But uh that's before steak really costs a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Uh we yeah, we would do things like that, and I always enjoyed it. Uh we didn't see fireworks. Did you all see fireworks anywhere?

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Uh no, you know, my my family was not we weren't particularly wealthy, so that sounded like something that was going to be an extra expense. We might have some, we might have some firecrackers that we that would that we throw around or Roman candles. Remember when Roman candles were a thing? Oh yeah, yeah. So and I don't even know that they even have those those anymore.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

No, my dad my dad would get Roman candles and fire them at cars. Oh, Josh. His friends landed them in the front seat of the friends' cars and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Like we weren't.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Yeah, yeah. There wasn't anything like uh safety in those days, but uh yeah, we'd have our hot dogs and stuff.

Hot Dog Numbers And Eating Contests

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Now uh that that's one thing I was gonna ask you. Do you have any idea how many hot dogs are eaten during the fourth generally? No, but uh uh apparently you've Googled that that and I did Google it.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

You have a figure in mind, and you're talking about all over the North America, all over the United States, how many hot dogs will have been consumed by maybe midnight on the 4th of July, maybe 1201. Uh okay. Uh let me think. Um 1,757,000.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Well, you're off a little bit. Am I a hundred and fifty million hot dogs? Oh, man. And not all of them Joey Chestnut. Uh yeah. I what's he usually eating like 130? I think he gets up in the 80s. Uh does he? Uh but I don't know if that counts as eating. If if you're eating a hut, if you put it in your mouth and swallowing it, but then you're throwing it back up later. I don't I don't know if that counts that as eating.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Well, he's he's sticking it in a glass of water, too, to to get the bone socked.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

The whole thing, yeah. That's a that's a whole thing. Boy, my wife hates that. She hates it. And I watch it just uh just because it's so stupid.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Uh well your wife hates it because she has a medical background and she knows that's not good for you. That's really not that's torturing your digestive system. Why do you want to do that?

SPEAKER_00 12:22

So But when you see when you see Joey Chestnut, though, you think that's one healthy individual there.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

That's right. And he's been he's been doing this for at least 25 years, hadn't he? Maybe more.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

I don't I don't think he's been around because there was a guy, there was a guy named Kobayashi or something.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Ah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

They end up having kind of a rivalry, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

The 80s kid. Yeah, the A kid.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yeah, yeah, and Kobayashi wasn't a big guy. He was he was small and could still do that. And you go, oh my god. But uh yeah, we uh the first time I saw fireworks, uh mom and dad had decided to take us to Coney Island in Cincinnati. Oh, right. And Coney Island was a park in Cincinnati. Uh it I wonder if it even has anything up there. Coney Island, do they?

SPEAKER_01 13:18

You know, I don't know. Um, I don't know about that. I can't tell you.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

It was it was a kind of a fun place to go. It had all the usual uh dangerous things to ride and all that. And I think they had they did have a roller coaster, which I rode with my dad. Uh I had to be really young, nine or ten years old. Uh and it had no seat belts or anything like that in it. And so I rode the roller coaster uh in the nose cone of the of the car. I I squeezed myself so far down there out of fear of what was happening. And and I'd never been really a roller coaster fan.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Well, you were 32 years old when you were squeezing yourself into the nose of that thing, weren't you? Probably. Uh yeah, yeah. 32, 33. I would have been.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Yeah. I mean, especially with no seatbelts and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

I hate those things. I hate those rides. They make me ill just thinking about them, really.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Yeah. Uh, you know, before my brain fluid thickened, uh, I guess I could ride some of those things, but I never have seen the fun in that. I I would rather do bumper cars. I that I got a kick out of.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

And Coney Island had plenty of those. He had all the carnival games and stuff like that. I loved it. But the big the big thing was at night, as we were leaving, uh they had a fireworks show, and uh we were leaving because there was no good place to park anywhere near it near Coney Island to see the fireworks. So we got part of the way home and we could look out the windows and see them all. And I was pretty fascinated by that. That was one of the that was one of the uh things that I really, really liked.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

But well, what about now?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

What about now, now, and I'll tell you what I did something really stupid. I was at Kroger one day, and I was thinking with some sparklers or something I'd put out, because I've done that before in recent years. Uh and I grabbed what is actually firecrackers, and I get home and Mary Kegg goes, What about the dogs? And she is absolutely right. What about the dogs? Yeah, right. Dumb on my part. So now I've got a I've got a whole thing of free uh firecrackers for anyone who wants to come get them because uh no, we're not gonna scare the dogs, it's not worth all that.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Put them out, but yeah, put them out beside the curb, somebody come by and pick them up for sure.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Probably.

Fireworks Memories And Dogs First

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Well, how much do you know about uh founding of our country, Ed? What do you know about the 4th of July?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Well, I do know that uh Jimmy Cagney was uh Yankee Doodle Dandy.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

He was a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

Yeah, he was the real live nephew of our Uncle Sam, born on the Fourth of July. I know that. Yeah. So that's a start.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

So but what was what was the significance we were told about the Fourth of July?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Well, I mean, we we were supposed to have gained our our uh independence. That's independence day for for our country.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

They would always show they would always show the picture of the everybody like in constitutional hall or whatever, wherever they were, and uh signing the Declaration of Independence on the Fourth of July.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

But but it wasn't on the Fourth of July, was it? It was on a different date, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

No, and it was only signed uh the Declaration of Independence was signed uh well was declared July 2nd of 1776. Uh on on that date. Two people signed it. And you can you can guess who the people were.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Well, I'd yeah I'd guess it was um it was Washington one of them?

SPEAKER_00 17:34

No, he was not.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Okay, let me tell you who it was. It was Thomas Jefferson and John Hancock.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

You got half of it, right? It wasn't Thomas Jefferson. Uh let me think. You're not gonna guess it. Well, tell me. Well, I I will if I find it, because I'm trying to Google it right now. I do know, you know, Mary Kay said, well, yeah, John Hancock, why'd he sign it big like that? I said probably thought it was gonna be the only guy on there.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

The only signature on there, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Going to hell, why should we waste all this paper? I'm just gonna uh put put it up there. But yeah, on on that date, only two people signed. Ben Franklin. Was it Ben Franklin? Ben Franklin did not sign then. Um the rest of them, other than uh, and I'm gonna say it wrong here. Uh I no, I can't, I can't, I don't have to apologize to anybody afterwards.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

You don't want to have to you don't want to have to apologize to the Incas, do you?

SPEAKER_00 18:38

No, no, it was actually I think that was the name. I think it was Joe Inca who signed. Uh, but only those two and the rest of the people that signed uh the Declaration of Independence did it over the next few months. Uh there were 56 signers, including Benjamin Franklin, who I was always fascinated by. Uh he's to me if you just read, I mean, and he was the oldest. He was uh they averaged like I think the average uh age was like 45. And they had one guy who was like uh 26, maybe there was two that was uh 26.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

But before you give the the the other name, let me make one more guess at it. Can I?

When Independence Really Happened

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Have you found the other name?

SPEAKER_00 19:34

No, I have not. Oh, okay. So go ahead and go ahead and guess.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and guess it anyway, and eventually you'll find it. And I haven't looked it up, but for some stupid reason, and maybe this guy wasn't even a signer, and it's possible he wasn't even a human being. But I I'm thinking, was there a guy whose name was John Jay as one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence?

SPEAKER_00 20:03

You you're you're probably right about that, but he wasn't one of the first two. I didn't remember him though, like I did. Anyway, how would you like to be that guy? You know? You go, everybody knows everybody knows John Hancock. Yeah, his big ass signature there took up the whole page, and then this guy signs and got nothing. And he's not Thomas Jefferson, he's not Ben Franklin, you know, he's nobody.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

And he's so and so not famous that you can't even find him by googling him for the last 10 minutes. You can't even find him that way.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Well, the biggest problem, the biggest problem for me is I can't uh I can't Google and talk at the same time. I I think a lot of people know that about me, don't they? Have you ever heard women say that about me? That I can't Google and tell. That's right. But uh was there a woman that signed the Declaration of Independence?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

I don't think that there was, was there?

SPEAKER_00 21:03

It there was. She wasn't counted as an official signer, but she was the one that was commissioned to uh print copies of the original, and she put her name on it.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Uh, she was a stenographer. Oh, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Yep. Her name was her name and and Mary Kayle loved this. Her name was Mary Catherine, just like Mary Kay's is Mary Catherine Goddard, and Goddard was not Mary Kay's last name, so it's not the same person. It's not. Yeah. I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, and and there was one guy who recanted. Uh now I wonder if I can find him by Google. He was yeah, his name was Richard Stockton. And he uh he signed the Declaration of Independence, but that He before the war was over, uh in November of that year, he got captured by the British. Because as you remember, the war wasn't over.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

It continued. Yeah, it continued for five.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

He got uh he was captured by the British and were for uh forced to repudiate his declaration of independence and swear to his his allegiance to King George. Um he uh he didn't have a good life after that because he didn't really fit, he didn't fit either place.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Did they just cross his name? Did they just cross his name out?

SPEAKER_00 22:40

No, they did not, but what he did, uh he tried the rest of his life to uh find copies of the declaration and destroy them. He did destroy a whole bunch of them. And I guess if you know, if there's no evidence, it's not like it's not like it's on the internet or anything.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Uh, but yeah. And uh one thing I thought was interesting, it's not a question, really. Uh George Washington read the Declaration of Independence uh on July 9th, 1776, in New York City, and a riot broke out really amid the reading, because some people were still, there were still British naval ships in the harbor at the time. Uh during the riot, they pulled down a statue of King George III, it was toppled and melted down, and they made 42,000 musket balls for for the revolutionary.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

That's what they call apropos.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah, yeah. Here's your king. Yeah, here's your king. Here's your king, and here's your king. You get a king, you get a king. Well, uh not related to that.

Declaration Trivia And Weird Footnotes

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Uh during World War II, where did they store the Declaration of Independence?

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Well, it's sort of related to that. So we're still talking about the Declaration. Um during World War II, well during World War II, where would we have stored the Declaration of Independence? Is your question. That's your question.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Yeah, they they didn't want they didn't want any destruction to happen to it.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Which makes sense if they wanted to uh keep it from being destroyed when they when they stored it at Fort Knox in Louisville, Kentucky. You're correct. Am I really?

SPEAKER_00 24:43

And you knew that.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

I did not.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Oh, you didn't? Well, that's a pretty good guess. Nope. That was a pretty good guess, buddy. Well, thank you. You can imagine why I threw that one in there.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I I can, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Yep. Yeah, there's so many stories that around all of this uh stuff that I find interesting. Uh I like how many times does the Liberty Bell ring on Independence Day?

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Uh let me let me think of a number that might possibly make sense. Um I don't know. I can't even come up with it.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Well, it does make sense. Thirteen.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Ah, for the 13 original co colonies.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

That's correct. Okay. All right. And there's another thing that I've always thought was uh I'm not Googling this. I I know it, but I don't know the exact date. Well, I do know the exact date. Uh on the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, 4th of July, on the 50th anniversary, two presidents died that day. Did you know that? No. Yep. No. On that was uh, and if I can do the math, I can't. Uh but yeah, the uh was Thomas Jefferson one of them? Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Okay, that makes sense then.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Yes. And I said I said to Mary Kay that that happened, and she said, uh, did they have a pact? Had they made a pact? I bet they had not. Uh yeah, if you know anything about the way their ideas on how the thing would run, uh no. Probably not. And and many years later, on the 4th of July, James Monroe also died.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

I say many years, not that many years afterwards. But uh I uh the other thing I was gonna say, this is I uh this really is not uh Independence Day related.

The Kid Who Designed The Flag

SPEAKER_00 27:01

It's more about uh solving of a a problem. When uh when we added states to the United States and uh when we added Alaska and Hawaii, the last two, right? Uh who designed the flag? Do you have any idea?

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Well, for damn sure it wasn't Betsy Ross. So um let me think. Because Betsy Ross would have been dead by that time. So um let's see, that was in 1961 or 58. Okay, 1958. I was in the first grade. Um and the the designer of that flag.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Uh you're not gonna know, you're not gonna know for I mean you can it's it's not Clint Howard, if you were gonna guess that uh no, the designer of the 50-star flag lived in Lancaster, Ohio. Uh his teacher, his uh history teacher in uh grade school did a class uh uh thing, telling him to design the flag. And so he, along with all the other students, uh designed, took the 48-star flag and came up with the 50-star flag that you see now. Uh the guy's name was uh Robert Heft. And uh hell, he might still be around. I don't know. But I thought the funniest thing about it was he got a B minus. Oh uh really yeah, he had taken uh a little over two dollars worth of uh felt and stuff and moved moved them around until it made sense to him and put it in, and his uh teacher gave him a B minus. So he was kind of upset by the whole thing. He was like, he's like you, man. Let's don't get in. He's like, no, I know that's the right. So what did he do? He mailed it to the uh to the president of the United States, which was Dwight D. Eisenhower, right? The the guy that once kissed me. And uh, and Dwight D. Eisenhower and his people selected it. So I I like that. I think I love the fact that it came from a kid. I love the fact that he got a B minus.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Well that's there had to be a grade change right after that. You would don't you imagine? There had to be a re a regrade for that, for that uh project.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

And if not, there would have been a PTA meeting right afterwards. Okay, all right, we're gonna have to come up with something else here because this this kid you you might think it's not all that good, but the president, okay, so we're gonna we're gonna weigh your decision versus the president of the United States.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

And at least we think that'd be plus.

Final Safety Notes And Random Plans

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Be safe. Uh be aware of the dogs and don't send out fireworks like I was gonna do. Uh have yourself a lot of hot dogs. Don't don't don't be the new Joey Chestnut or the Kobayashi. Uh let's let's don't eat that many hot dogs. But Ed, I'm gonna pick some hot dogs and I'm gonna get those mustards that I got from Wisconsin, the ones that are left. Ah, but all yours is gone. Well, I've got a little bit of the uh garlic mustard still left, and I love it. So yeah, I'll and Mary Kay's not uh uh crazy about any of those, so it'll be on me. But I want you and your you and your family have a great uh 4th of July. And thank you very much, Chelsea. Hope you have a lot of family coming in. Uh that's one place, one of those things that uh isn't gonna happen for me. But uh, you know, I've I've made trip plans. I made some trip plans this week. Well, good. I'm going somewhere, you know, you know how it is because it's hard for me to get around anymore. Uh, but I did see something that uh in Fort Mitchell, Kentucky, they have they have the World Ventriloquus Dummy Museum. Oh, really? And they're having they're having a special thing. Uh we're going up there to see uh what was the young girl that was on uh America's Got Talent? I can't think of her name. I can't recall. Uh but but we're gonna see her. We're gonna see uh Jay Johnson. You remember him? Uh yeah, I do. Oh, from from uh soap?

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Yeah, I do. And uh Edgar Bergen's gonna be there, I would guess. Is Edgar Bergen Bergen gonna be there or not?

SPEAKER_00 32:30

Well, he may or may not. I mean, who knows? Uh he could be. I that that guy, getting into that before we end this session, that that's a strange, strange situation there. That Edgar Bergen made it big doing ventriloquism on the radio. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Yeah, I do remember that. He had his own show, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00 32:54

You know who else could do ventriloquists on the radio? Anybody. I I don't get how that happened. I don't get how somebody came up with that. But got it.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Well, he had the witty repartee. He had a lot of witty repartee, which you know you'd have to come up with that, and that's probably what got him got him on there.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

I guess, but it's pretty easy to not move your mouth uh when you're on the radio. You say you're a ventriloquist. Yeah, you but you're not really doing it now, are you? So so anyway, Ed, I want you and your family to have a great uh fourth. Anybody listening out there, please uh have a good fourth. Do you know celebrate? It's it's time to celebrate and do it one last time anyway.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Yeah, I I wish the same for everybody. And in addition, happy Bastille Day. Happy Bastille Day to all the French.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

Yes. What about the Italians? Uh forget the Italians. All right, all right. Well, why don't you get us out of your head?