(55) "Birthday Wistfulness"

Blood on the grass, a missing cone, and a dog so locked in he won’t listen. We start with a true pet story that’s funny until it isn’t: Felix gets stitched up at the vet, then tangles with a groundhog in the yard, and suddenly we’re doing the mental math of scratches, saliva, bacteria, and what “low risk” really means when your hands aren’t spotless. If you’ve ever broken up an animal fight or worried about infection after a bite, you’ll recognize the mix of adrenaline and second guessing. 

From there, the talk turns personal and surprisingly tender. A 75th birthday is coming up, and we don’t treat it like a party planning session. We talk about aging, how birthdays can feel like nothing more than timekeeping, and why that can still leave you lonely when everyone else is celebrating. Along the way we trade childhood birthday memories from country life: the rare party, the homemade pinata, the awkwardness of being ten and not knowing how to talk to girls, and the one birthday where a bicycle becomes the whole storyline. 

We also get into the small objects that carry big meaning: a bike speedometer for chasing downhill “breakneck” speed, a siren used for drive-by bravery, and the moment you realize high handlebars and a banana seat were a bridge too far. It all builds to a simple question about celebration and connection: if milestones don’t matter to you, what does matter, and how do you make sure the people you love still feel seen? Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s complicated about birthdays, and leave a review with your own birthday rule or memory.

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Transcript

Welcome And The Dog Disaster

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Hey everybody, it's Piltdown Man and the Guard of Giant. We're in episode 55. I'm Joe Flush, and this is my partner, Eddie Penn.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Good afternoon, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Yeah, you never really elaborate much on that, do you? You don't really have like a story to lead in with.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Well, you're the storyteller. You're the big you're the you're the beginning of this, the initiator of the thing.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

But you're the educator.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Well, I can come up with some things, but I think when someone says, hey, how are you doing? My response typically is pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

And you then be able to do that. Or sometimes, or sometimes you go eosstead. Is that or that? Or okay, well, I tell you what I'm gonna uh talk about. You know, with Felix, my dog Felix uh got ripped up. Uh he got into uh I'm guessing a little tussle with Oscar or something, but his claw has uh cut a about a two-inch slit all the way from his eye down his snout. And I've been pretty concerned about him. We got him to uh the vet pretty quickly, and they put in stitches, but then it's all the antibiotics and all that, and they put the cone on his head, uh which he was fine with. He was kind of oblivious to this paper cone on there. However, the next night a groundhog got into my yard. Uh Felix got into the groundhog. Uh I heard crying and squealing and all this, and the the cone was nowhere to be found. Felix had ripped into that groundhog so hard that I thought it was dead, but I was more concerned about myself because he wasn't taking oral commands, and I'm not talking about the groundhog. I'm talking about Felix. You can yell at that groundhog all you want, and he's not gonna do anything. That's right. And neither was Felix, and I had ended up getting in the middle of that and grabbing him by the collar and pulling him away. And I assumed that the groundhog was dead. I've never seen so much blood and everything. And uh, I got him inside and the smell of the blood and all that, it was terrible. Uh, but I decided, well, I'm just gonna wait the next morning, call animal control, let them come get the carcass, etc. However, next next morning though, uh the groundhog's gone.

Bite Risks And Infection Worries

SPEAKER_00 2:54

So I started thinking, I wonder what are the chances that anything like that that I that I get an infection or the because I had a few minor cuts on my hands. Uh I think very, very low. But then I started thinking about dogs the way they are versus cats. And you know, dogs bite uh 90% of the animal bites they get in a veterinarian officer are uh dogs. Oh my god, another math reference. Okay, another math. And this is gonna be approximate, and Dr. Holly will come back in here and tell me I get things all wrong. But they were saying that, and and we could check with her next time she's on. Uh dogs bite way, way more, but cats, when they do bite, they're way more infectious. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_01 3:54

There's something in their saliva, I think, aren't there? Isn't there?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

And neither one, neither one is a is a nice thing to have. I've been you've been you've been dog bit, haven't you?

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Uh yeah, I guess so. Not anything really much. We had dogs.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Yeah, I've been bit a couple of times, and and most of them uh was when I was like riding my bike out somewhere, and a dog would come out of nowhere and uh, you know, in the country and get me. It happened it happened twice.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

You know, that never happened to me, and uh I was able to shake dogs loose usually before they could bite me when I was riding my bike in the country, which I did all the time. But uh you were unlucky that way, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

I guess. And yeah, uh one of the bites it was uh it was probably a year before it was totally healed up. He got me right right above my heel. Oh gosh. Yeah, and and it uh it wasn't it wasn't nice, but yeah, hey, but speaking of earth days, no, what am I doing? Uh yeah, the the dog problem was a big one, but I was just gonna say, I get it, let's get away from the dogs for a while.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Okay, well, I would like to say also that uh the story about the blood and guts, that's specifically for our dinner listeners, I I think. Don't you think?

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Yeah, well, you gotta have something that draws people in.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

That's that's right.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Nothing drives them in like like blood is uh pretty good now. That's right. Yeah. Uh for Mary Kay, who's a nurse, that probably is the truth. Yep. And Holly, Holly's been bit many, many times. I mean, as a veterinarian, uh uh she's been bitten a lot, and nothing. That would affect not necessarily dogs, it could be a lot of things. Right. Uh but so far she avoided the Wolverines, which we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah, I think we all tried, we all tried to avoid uh Wolverines, I think.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

So yeah, I'd I just I just talked to them and say, get the hell out of here, Wolverine. This is no place for you. Well, let's talk about something happier at times, or maybe not so much for me.

Turning 75 And Birthday Feelings

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Uh uh tell me about it.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Yeah, I get an anniversary coming up. This episode is what, the 15th? My birthday is on the 18th. I turn 75.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Oh my god, Lord, help you. I mean, I I had no idea that person could could get that old and still be walking and talking, really.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Well, have you been around me? I barely can do either one of those two things. And to do them at the same time, you know. I uh I might get motion sickness. From a port swing. From a port swing could be worse for me. Uh well, how do you feel about that, Joe?

SPEAKER_01 7:06

What how do you feel about this work?

SPEAKER_00 7:08

It's it's uh a little bit wistful, you know. You start thinking about what it has meant, and I'm I'm one of these people that uh I'm not big on birthdays, but I'm big on people celebrating things. I'm I'm more happy when it's somebody else's birthday that I can greet them and say something to it.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

I think me too. I think I feel the same way.

Childhood Birthdays And The First Party

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Well, growing up, did you what were your episodes like birthday things growing up?

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Well, I'm not quite I'm not quite sure I'd call them an ep episode because they they didn't happen very often at all. Uh but my birthdays happened, you know, like yearly, like annually. But my uh I really had uh my sister and I both have talked about this recently, and uh both both individually and in therapy. But uh uh we didn't we didn't really have birthdays. We'd occasionally we'd get this occasional gift. Actually, I remember her birthdays better than I remember my own specific birthdays, and uh as as she was younger than than I was, but um but I do remember some some really fun parties that I went to as a young kid. Uh two or three stick out, at least two stick out in my mind. I will say that um, and I've talked about this before, I had one that I'll get to in just a second. That my mother came up to me one day and she said, How would you like to have a birthday party? And it was one of those deals where I looked around um over my right shoulder thinking she was talking to somebody else. You know, somebody else is in the house and she was talking to them, but uh it was me. But uh she said, How would you like to have a 10th birthday party? And which made sense because I was gonna be 10. It would be my 10th birthday party. Um and I said, What do you what do you mean? And she said, Well, we could have a few people over, you know, you could play baseball and horseshoes. You know, I lived in the country, I was a farm kid, I was a country kid. So I said, Yeah, that's that sounds pretty good. And as it turned out, I had about 15 of my friends there, my friends at school and Boy Scouts, and uh maybe even more than that, maybe 16, 17, 18 boys my age as a 10-year-old. And uh we played baseball. We didn't have any girls. You know, I was a nine nine, I was a 10-year-old, and I discovered girls about that time, but I really didn't know them well enough to talk, actually talk to them. You know what I mean? Right. I didn't know them well enough to talk to them. And in order to invite them to a birthday party, I suppose I could have sent a written invitation, but even if they had accepted, I would have had to have talked to them while they were there, which was it was gonna be problematic for me. So um, but uh it it was a good birthday. My mother had a pinata. That was the first time I even knew what pinata was, yeah. She made it made it from scratch. And uh, but um what what about you? I I've got a couple of things.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

I didn't know it, I didn't know anything about pinatas. Uh pinata came up the first time I was when I was taking Spanish class in high school before I even heard of a pinata.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm asking more uh more about your birthday parties or your birthdays than I am about the pinata per se, if you must say.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

And I can remember particularly my sister's uh birthday parties, uh uh, you know, getting a picture taken while we're eating the cake and making a mess and doing all the stuff. Right. And uh and all that. And uh for my own birthdays, I I didn't really give a crap about birthdays one way or the other, except it was it was the one other time other than Christmas that we got gifts. And uh not not a whole lot, but some. You were for it. You'd have to be for it. Oh yeah, I'm all for gifts. In fact, for my 75th, I'll give you my address if you want to send gifts here. Uh I I don't care about anything else, but the gifts always kind of catch my attention. Uh no, we got and especially when I get a little older, uh well, I'll talk about one of my birthday parties because that was the only one I had, so we'll talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Is

The One Birthday Party And The Bike

SPEAKER_01 11:50

there any trauma? Is there any trauma involved in it? If if so, I I'm not uh okay, okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

No, no trauma in this. And uh I didn't know uh I didn't know anything about birthday parties, and mom was always ahead of the game, and she had decided that I needed to have a birthday party, and I had to be seven or eight years old, I guess. I was pretty young. Uh they had already gotten me a bicycle uh before. It was a it was the one I'd named later named Northern Dancer, and this bike was uh not quite as big as the others. It was used, it was from Thornberries. You remember Thornberries?

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Of course, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

And it all I know is that it was a cheap bike, but uh it I I liked it a lot and got around on it, and I kind of got off on the fact that it was a smaller bike. I liked it uh like going up against the big guys, I can make that wheel turn around pretty fast. So anyway, I had the had the bike there. We invited uh mom invited everybody. I didn't invite anybody, but she invited everybody from church, uh, from our church group, uh some school friends and things like that. I had about like you, about 15, 20 people, maybe at the most. They all brought presents. That was that was a cool thing. Uh what I didn't like, and you ask about trauma, it's not exactly trauma, but I couldn't ride that bike. I've had fallen off that bike so many times that I couldn't ride it. And uh, so the boys that came to the birthday party, they could they could ride that bike really good, and they were riding the hell out of my bike. Uh the one I could so I was kind of embarrassed by the whole thing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

But motivated.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

But instead of yes, yes. And the funny thing was that after the last person had left the party, I got the bike out and rode for the first time. I figured it out. So it was motivation or just embarrassment, I don't know what it was. But uh yeah, once once you get it, you go, oh, aha, that's the way it works. I can feel the balance and everything now. Yeah, yeah. Uh now starting and stopping was probably you didn't have hand brakes, did you? Those bikes didn't open brakes.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

They had to kick pedal brakes.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Yeah, you had to kick backwards to stop.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

And and uh I couldn't the takeoff was always troublesome for me. So what they did, I went around to my grandfather's porch and got up kind of on a step and pushed off that first uh step. And when I did, I could get my balance and uh would be fine. Uh but yeah, it took me a while to get all that. But about the party, though, there was a lot of people that are still out there that were lifetime friends that uh had come to the party, and they brought me all kinds of stuff which I really liked. Uh and then after that, that was the party. After that, I got no party.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

It sounds like a pretty good party, though.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

I mean, it was it was it was, it was pleasant, and we have I have photos even now that go back to uh they got all the kids and set them on the my grandfather's steps and took pictures. Uh so I have pictures of my one and only birthday party. Well, now as an adult, I've had people say to me, Oh, we ought to have a birthday party over my dead body. Do not do not do that. And my wife knows she's been threatened if she ever if she ever uh did a surprise party or something for me. If I came in and there was that going on, I would leave.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Well you might you might have misunderstood it to be an intervention, though. I mean it could have been. It could be. You would hope that wouldn't you? Interventions.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

I I probably do need an intervention.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Yeah, you probably you probably prefer that over the birthday party.

Speedometers Sirens And Bike Regrets

SPEAKER_00 16:20

But what they one thing that I liked about the birthday thing that I kind of got into was after I did get to ride in the bike, uh my the thing that I wanted for my gift every year was things from my bike. Yeah, and it started with the speedometer. I yeah, for some reason I wanted to see how fast I would go down that hill to Turner Station when I was going to breakneck breakneck speed and uh unable to stop myself, uh, couldn't keep my feet on the pedal. I wanted to see how fast the end of my death was gonna be. Yeah. What was the speed it was gonna go at?

SPEAKER_01 17:03

I'm gonna guess it was 32 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

It was pretty close to 30, seriously.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Yep, uh-huh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

And uh I'll give you 32 because you probably were going faster than me.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

But well, I exaggerate everything my wife tells me, so yeah, 32.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Yeah, yeah. Uh it was it was uh that. But the next year I decided to get that siren uh because I wanted to go. Yeah, I wanted to have a siren. So when I went by the girl's house uh that I wanted, you know, we've talked about that before. I'd go by her house, I'd hit that siren every time. And so I then could book it, book it and get out of there before she ever came out and looked. And then I found out years later that was the wrong house. After after doing that for uh a couple of years. Uh I found out yeah, every time I hit that siren, the people that lived in the house probably wondered what the hell was going on. I wonder why she never was accidentally in the yard or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yeah, you just happenstance, you'd think she'd be out there, you know, just walking to get to a car or something, maybe, or you know, to take her dog out, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah. But anyway, then the then the year after that, or so I decided to get uh, and this is one I regret getting the the high handle bars and the banana seat.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, I never did do that.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Well, I did it and it kind of ruined the bike for me. It was uh it was a bridge too far. It now looked like a a little friendly bike, and I was thinking of it as one that was gonna be going down that hill. You can't go down that hill at 30 miles an hour with high handlebars on a banana seat.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

There's just I would think not. I would think not.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

But uh the look is just not right, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

No. I guess you'd seen uh Easy Rider by that time and been turned on by Dennis Hopkins uh chopper. I guess maybe you've seen it, maybe by I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

I wanted to get, I tell you what, I wanted to get for it. I wanted to get a tiger tail the from the back of you know, to hang out the back of it. Yeah dad dad wouldn't let me uh because uh uh he had a service station and his friend had a Texaco and they had put tiger in your tank. Right. They were giving away those tiger tails to kind of and so dad said, Nope, nope, you're not gonna advertise Billy's station.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Yeah, so I couldn't have a tiger tail. I could get one now by God.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Yeah, you ought to do that. Just go on eBay or Etsy if you could find it, probably.

Cake Rules And Favorite Desserts

SPEAKER_00 19:54

What was your cake order on your birthday?

SPEAKER_01 19:57

My cake order? What are you talking about? We're country folks. We we didn't have any cake order. Actually, actually, I did. I we did. Um, I didn't like cake. I like cake okay, but but my order for my dessert or for what whatever you want to call it was uh particularly after I got older, was my mother could make this would make this yellow cake, um, and but she wouldn't put the icing on it, so which was fine with me. Instead, she'd make uh caramel or ground sugar sauce for it and heat it. And and in my opinion, that was the best cake that I could imagine eating. I I loved it. And uh I don't know uh occasionally I'd ask for pie. I like butterscotch pie, and my mother would make butterscotch pie. But but my the the my cake, my actual birthday cake, ceased to exist by the time I was probably uh eight, I guess probably from nine.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

And from then on yeah, we kept on the celebrating for quite a while. Uh you know, uh right before mom died. Uh uh No, no, no, earlier than that. Um but uh I had I had I had a specific cake that I I liked was uh see mom hardly ever make made uh desserts. It was it was a rarity around our house. Uh but we did get a cake, and my favorite was to get an angel food cake with no frosting, no nothing on it. Just a plain angel food cake. And I did that year after year, and they'd say, surely put a little icing under something that no, I liked it plain.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Well, let me tell you how you ate it. You didn't use the fork, you just broke it off like bread or something like that like the taco and with yeah it's it's it's

SPEAKER_00 22:00

an angel food cake that's made it's designed to do that it's made to do that so great well that was that was my go-to dessert and i i liked it and i still like angel food cake i i don't do it as much but also mom's not making it so i'm having to get it at Kroger and right I don't want it it's not quite

The Horse Accident That Ended A Party

SPEAKER_00 22:23

the same.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

No it's not let me tell you about a great the one of my most one of my favorite parties I actually went to a birthday party that was that was dramatic as hell and I'm going to tell you how the what the drama stemmed from I I had a close friend whose name was Jenny and Jenny died years ago and uh but she was my first girl friend she wasn't a the the one word girlfriend she was the two word girlfriend um but I thought a lot of her she they lived up the road from us on Terrace Pike outside of Newtown which is outside of Georgetown Kentucky I think I've mentioned that before but anyway they had a farm they had horses and they had cows and they had tobacco and they raised garden and uh but uh her sister had uh Terry had had a horse and um a big black horse as I recall but big to a nine or ten or eleven year old uh her sister uh was a few years older than us Terry um but she she had taught she had seen Roy Rogers or some other cowboy able to make his horse rear up remember that used to be a thing if you if you remember the Lone Ranger and Roy Rogers and all those horses could rear up in the sky and kids my age thought that was fabulous you know that's fantastic. But anyway I I remember my dad who wasn't um particularly good at predicting the future but he said you know I think for uh that can potentially be a problem and and uh I said in what way and he said that horse is gonna is gonna fall backward one of these days it gets up on its hind legs and it's not gonna be able to stop somebody's gonna be on the back of it well here's what happened sort of I've sort of uh um buried the lead I suppose um I was at the party where it was about six or seven of us ten year olds and my friend Nancy Sharp who I love and who's now deceased she died a few years ago of cancer um she she was a horse person too we all rode ponies and horses and she said I'd like to ride Terry's horse well the horse was there had a saddle on it Nancy got on the horse and the horse uh reared up um just as soon as she got on it and as soon as it got high in the sky the horse fell over backward and buried that saddle horn in Emily's in not Hemley in Nancy's chest so it had a western saddle on and it and and she hit the ground and and the whole earth shook and I was about ten feet from the whole the episode the whole incident and uh that uh I thought well she's got to be dead surely she's dead a big horse just fell on top of her and we all ran over to her of course and and Nancy lay on the ground for a minute or two and then she was able to get up and um one of the mothers maybe my mother or Jenny's mother inspected her chest where the where the saddle the western saddle horn had buried itself about two inches deep into her chest and um it pretty much uh the the party had pretty much just started but it pretty much just about ended at that you you know how I picture it ending no she's she's laying there with the saddle horn in her chest and her mother comes over and goes honey happy birthday to you that would have been great if it'd been Ginny who the party was for but it was for Nancy but it would have been it was it was Nancy who who had the horse uh the the the saddle horn in deeply embedded in her chest and who never came back to any of Ginny's birthday parties after that if I recall uh we had the only party I can remember as a child to go to uh I did go to one for uh uh one of my grade school friends Dennis Brent and I think Dennis is on my Facebook page and he's a Facebook friend now yeah yeah uh but Dennis I went to his and he was so struck by Zorro uh that everything he got it was a Zorro themed birthday party yeah yeah and they wrapped him up with the mask and the cape and the sword and so the whole party keep became as you're trying to play what some of the party games he'd be hiding in the woods and splashing that sword around your face.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Jump jumping out of the jumping out of the bushes and flashing the sword at you uh happy birthday everybody lost an eye but it was a great birthday party hilarious well that you know and those are kind of some of the things but I any now as an adult I don't celebrate uh in fact last year my wife forgot it altogether uh and then after I told her she forgot she still continued to forget so not only and you know I was kind of thinking oh no it's gonna be a surprise birthday party because nobody said anything.

Holidays Loneliness And Being Seen

SPEAKER_00 27:30

No well the surprise surprise was no there never was anything. No acknowledgement no acknowledgement at all from Mary and I think I'd I've tried to do some things for people's birthday that like uh one one birthday of hers I sent a greeting from uh Gilbert Gottfried uh when he was when he was alive I'll do the Yogi Berry yeah he was alive when he did it he was alive at the time yeah uh it was a fantastic thing and I've I've used them uh before uh cameo I give him a little give him a little uh shout out maybe maybe we could use them as a sponsor but uh anyway I I've I try to be I also uh wrote uh I wrote a song and like got somebody from LA to uh record the song and uh kind of a a combination of birthday and then celebrating our anniversary coming up so I yeah I try to use my imagination now for me it is it is just another way to mark off a year I don't know what differences between 75 and 75 years on one day or two days or something you know it's it's all about the same when you get to be this age but so I don't get that I don't know what we're gonna do. We're planning to go to the national ventriloquist dummy uh celebration I think the word dummy is probably politically incorrect yeah probably I don't know what I wonder what they do call them uh but yeah I'm gonna I'm going to that we're doing some unusual things and as long as we're traveling or doing something fun I I don't really care about how it's celebrated but I do think it's important because some people it's really really important to them just to be acknowledged. And I'm all for people feeling good so I'll acknowledge it. If your birthday comes up let's say your birthday comes up sometime within the next year happy birthday yeah I think that's the way to go I think you but you know I I I'd I'd like to add something I was gonna say add an addendum but that's redundant um I'd like to add something uh in that what you say about not acknowledging it's just another day for you kinda is that yeah is that what you're telling me yeah it's just another day for you here's the here's uh a revelation or maybe it's not a revelation for you could be an epiphany but one or the other I'm sort of like that about all those kinds of days uh it even holidays that mean something to people they're just kind of a and I don't know where that comes from um but uh Christmas uh Thanksgiving um those I I in fact one one year my my sister got mad at me and I think she was probably just hitting madding being mad at me but anyway she said well we're gonna do this on um on Christmas we're gonna do such and such on Christmas and I said oh yeah okay uh does does Christmas fall on the 25th of December this year and I meant it and I meant it obviously as a joke because I know that December 25th is the date but I also meant it in a way that yeah okay you know that's that's good and I'm all for for celebrating it but a lot of those a lot of those occasions even like birthdays are means of marking time for me or ways of marking time and at least in in my situation with uh no family living around here uh yeah makes more Steven for that it makes you feel uh and I and you know admittedly I'm a lonely guy and it makes you way lonelier on those days because everybody else is having a great time um but I don't want to end on a sad note I I'm I'm gonna do my best and you know we we have recorded this ahead of my birthday so that you know I'm making an assumption I might not make it to 75.

The Birthday Date And Sign Off

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Did you say it's the 18th of July?

SPEAKER_00 31:51

It's the 18th yes because I need that date for the party for the surprise party yeah okay you and I have been friends for a long time and you know there's no reason to continue that friendship? Yeah because that would be that would be a very tough thing to that'd be a deal breaker. Yeah. Well let's get out of here Eddie we've done enough damage for the day.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

All right talk to you later on