The Horror Heals Podcast

Beatrice Boepple on Amanda Krueger, Trauma, Horror Fandom & Why Horror Heals

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Beatrice Boepple (Amanda Krueger from A Nightmare on Elm Street 5) joins Horror Heals for one of the most powerful conversations we’ve had about horror, trauma, empathy, and why these stories matter so much.

Before the interview, Corey shares what happened at ScareFest: Beatrice had her entire day’s earnings stolen, money earmarked for her son’s college fund, and was later targeted by an extortion attempt. But the horror community showed its true colors. Fans, staff, vendors, and fellow guests rallied around her and helped recover nearly every dollar. This is what our horror family looks like: compassion over cruelty, solidarity over selfishness.

Beatrice opens up about being a lifelong empath who once avoided gore, how yoga and horror unexpectedly intersect in her life, and why so many fans connect to Amanda Krueger’s trauma and survival story. She talks about her book The Krueger’s Curse, the deeper backstory she created for Amanda, her experiences playing Pamela Voorhees in fan films, and the surprising impact of convention culture.

We also discuss her close friendship with Mark Patton (Jesse from Elm Street 2), his health challenges, and how listeners can help support him during treatment.

This episode digs into bullying, survival narratives, final-girl empowerment, horror community acceptance, and how characters like Freddy and Jason resonate so deeply with fans who grew up as outsiders. Beatrice’s insight is raw, warm, and profoundly healing.

Horror isn’t about cruelty; it’s about community. And Beatrice Boepple is proof.

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Is horror good for mental wellness? Of corpse it is.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to the four field podcasts. And it's great when we have to scale kind of recommended. Feature guests, whatever early guests have a lot of work invented. I think it's work with you before you would be too. Because unfortunately, our paths have not crossed in person. However, I've seen through social media and things like that, just how important the fans are to you and how important you are to the fans. And that got me thinking, like, oh, you know, our whole theme of horror being good for our mental wellness. Well, yeah, clearly you're one of the people out there that's making that happen.

Beatrice on Feeling Violence While Watching A Nightmare on Elm Street

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Powell Yeah. Well, for me, that the whole concept of mental health wellness through horror was, you know, something that I really didn't understand or wouldn't have even connected until I started doing shows and getting to know fans and you know hearing the stories and getting the letters and the emails and such. I've learned so much through the interaction with fans. Because full disclosure, I was not um a horror fan myself, which you know I I'm sure you've heard a lot of horror actors aren't really horror fans. And and the main thing for me is because I'm just I'm very what's the word, I'm an empath and I feel like people feel. And as an actor, it's a good tool because I can really feel. But it means that when I'm watching a lot of violence and and gore, I feel it in my body, it just grosses me out and I get nauseous and stuff. So I can't really watch gore. However, spooky things I've always loved because I lived in Japan as a little girl. Japanese ghost stories are some of the creepiest things. So I I I get the delight of that thrill. But gore itself I just couldn't handle. I watched probably the first of every classic franchise, but beyond that not so much. And I never thought that they would be. Aside from just the thrill, I didn't really equate horror films with any kind of mental wellness. And especially as a yoga teacher, which I am now and I have been for the past twenty years, it was very hard for me to kind of put the two together because the main tenant of yoga is nonviolence, ahimsa. Even horror films are full of violence, so I was like, Well, how do the two go together?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

But I yeah. But that but I certainly s you know, have learned a whole lot from from fans. And I and I on social media I've often asked, you know, what is it about it? Why did it mean so much to you? Because people would always be saying, Oh, you know, you were so much a part of my childhood, and you have no idea, you know, the influence your films had. And, you know, for me, when I think about something influential in my childhood, I mean, no kidding, obsesame street was really influential because as I mentioned, I'd lived in Japan as a little girl from age five to age nine. So we had left the US just when I would have been learning the alphabet. Back in the 60s, parents didn't teach kids the alphabet when they were babies. So I didn't even know the alphabet. But when I came back at age nine, going into fourth grade, and everyone's already writing cursive, I didn't even know the alphabet, but I had to really catch up to learn to read and write in English. Sesame Street was a huge part of that for me.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. And of course, you know, those of us who love horror love the fact that Sesame Street had monsters but friendly monsters, right? Yes, of course. You know, the horror and healing concept is certainly not something that I thought about as a kid growing up. It certainly wasn't in my purview when I first saw you with the 35 years ago. Once I started going into the convention of myself, and that's the volunteers, I really felt like poor conventions or my happy place. I'm never feeling any kind of threat or anxiety there. And I think it's everybody's vibe. It's uh you know how everyone's sort of carrying themselves are so welcoming and it's a very unique experience of taking some people, family members and friends and stuff to their first horror conventions, and I think they get it once they're there, you know.

Why Fans Connect With Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees

SPEAKER_02

Right. They see the horror family connection. Conventions are a world unto themselves, and I think the horror community in particular is so accepting, probably because with monsters and all these different characters, it's so kind of you can hide a multitude of shortcomings, I guess, that you might feel otherwise, you know. And just people accept I think just people are much more accepting in the horror community of all kinds of whether it's disabilities, whether it's just, you know, personal quirks, whatever the differences are, I do find it a much more welcoming community. But aside from the conventions, the films themselves, I was really pondering like why did you find it, you know, a really helpful part, a really meaningful part of your childhood. I'm thinking like one of the things that I personally discovered through talking to fans was how people seem to identify either with the victims and in particular were empowered by the final girls, whether that's be a male or a female, whoever makes it to the end, because these characters are heroes. They have to somehow at some point overcome certain fears to face the monster. And even though the franchises to make more money and to keep the fans happy, we'll keep making more, at the end of each one, at least for a park for a moment, the monster dies, right? What I find is a lot of people, like a huge amount of car fans, were outcast bullied in one way or another. We all experienced being the the outsider or bullied in some way. And it seems that people identify either with the victim because that shows that you can overcome the bully, or being the monster themselves, but they can defeat all their enemies. Right. And the thing that I find is especially about the eighties horror, certainly talking about Jason and Freddie, now that I've played both of their moms, both Freddie Kruger and and Jason Voorhees were victims of you know, taunting and teasing. They were bullied as kids. So it really gives the audience somebody to identify with if they want to identify with the killer, because the killer gets back at those people who bullied him. Freddie goes after the kids of all his bullies, people that b bullied him when he was a kid. So either way it kind of gives the bullied people a way to process it, like, oh, I can be strong like Freddie, and just fantasize about getting back the people who bullied them, oh being the final girl and standing up to the bully.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

You know, so it's empowering. I I think it's you know, it was empowering. But another aspect of horror films that I hadn't grasped until I heard it from fans, I get letters from fans specifically in terms of my character, Amanda Krueger, and if she was raped by maniacs. And as much as in my mind, you know, okay, that's just this fictional part of uh the ethos of Film Street and the storyline, I was a victim of rape myself, and I have gotten letters from women who share that they felt that their plight was kind of being shown like this woman who had to sort of overcome that and still keep going. You know, and I didn't realize that people would see it to that degree, you know, identify like with Amanda Krueger and and her being raped and and if that's true of my character, then think of it if so many of the characters in these franchises have horrible things happening to them, you know, a lot of them have the nasty, freaky parents, which a lot of us have had. Then of course having the bully or having some kind of a handicap or having something. And if watching that when you're young and being able to root for those people on screen is helpful, you know, again, that's another powerful aspect of these films that I didn't really realize until I heard it from fans.

SPEAKER_01

When did you have that aha moment that Amanda Kruger's story wasn't completely told and you were gonna be the one to tell it?

SPEAKER_02

During COVID, well, I had a lot of time, and I had already started to do conventions and such. I think I had only done a few before COVID, but but it gave me time to really think about Amanda and her the story that I had given to her when I was playing the character, because you know, as actors, we do backstory on our characters. We try to give them a history so that you're bringing a real full person to life, not just the person that appears on a few pages. And one of the biggest questions I had was how does Freddie know who she is? You know, he's scared of her and he hates her. Where's that coming from if she just gave him up at you know, at birth? And which gave me the whole idea that, well, she's a nun, and back in those days, most orphanages were run by the nuns anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so she would have had access to him probably, you know, and as a mother, you don't want to give up your child. And even though she had to give him up, I'm sure it was a huge internal battle for her to have to give up her child that she didn't want to give up, even though he was a child of rape, that didn't matter to her. It was still a baby growing inside her. And so I imagine that they had, you know, some connection during that time that he was in the orphanage before he got adopted by his creepy dad, you know, and in the film that also you don't really get to see what made Alice Cooper's characters beat the crap out of Freddie and why was Freddie enjoying it so much. And I really explored that. I'm assuming you're referring to my book.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So so that's what I explore in the book. I explore and those who are listening who don't know what book we're talking about, it's called The Krueger's Curse, A Nightmare Before Elm Street. And it it basically is this the story told through Amanda Kruger's voice. It's her character re you know, recounting this. And so as the reader, you'll know a lot more than she knows, you know, because she doesn't know that he's her son's a killer and she doesn't know that these things are gonna happen. And it follows the storyline that we learned through mostly Elm Street 5 and 6, how he came to be, and then how he ends up getting married and killing his wife in front of his daughter and all that kind of stuff that pulls the stories out and flush them out. So, yeah, so it's it's it's a story that it's a story that really was meant for fans. You know, I don't know that it would be a standalone story if you didn't know Elm Street, I don't know how well the book reads, but for fans, at least all the feedback I've gotten, people have absolutely loved it, and you know, just gives them a deeper sense of who she is and how their relationship came to be, and uh, and then a little more insight into Freddie and and certainly more insight into that his stepdad. I gave I kind of gave a a storyline to him as well.

SPEAKER_01

Which is awesome. And I think that's one of the really cool things that we've seen in the last couple of decades and continue to grow is that fans are kind of taking ownership of these characters that they love, and and there's amazing fan films out there that people can watch for free. There are obviously labors of love because I do know how challenging it is to get a movie made. Uh and then people writing fiction that kind of further deep in characters and stuff. I think it's great. And it's a really cool thing for fans to be able to better relate to the creators too.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Yeah, and actually Mark Hottman had sort of encouraged me too, because he knows he's written Jesse's journals from the point of view of Jesse. You know, and he was imagining that he was, you know, so he would write out, you know, those journals. And I think let's see, who else uh I don't know if anyone else uh of the Elm Street cast has written oh yeah, you might know better than me.

SPEAKER_01

I mean there's I think that some of them have been involved in s some of the comic books, you know, and nobody is immediately coming to mind, but yeah, I think that there's been some of the actors that have been involved with writing comic books.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and we certainly, you know, and then a lot of well, again, not maybe I'm not sure, but but I've certainly appeared in a a couple of uh fan films recreating Amanda.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um which has been a lot of fun and which was made it so crazy when I when I was asked to do Pamela Worhe's because you know, there's the other, you know, iconic horror guy's mom. You know, and I after playing Pamela Voorhees and I played her in two two fan films, I was thinking to myself, Oh my gosh, now I just need to get Michael Myers if I can play his mom. That would be my trifecta, and I could die happy knowing that I'm the mother of all horror. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Uh well thank you for mentioning Mark because he's such a sweetheart, and and uh you know, we're all putting out the good vibes for his recovery.

SPEAKER_02

It's really he Mark is one of my closest friends from the Elm Street franchise, and he's just been through a ringer. I mean, throughout life. I mean, he's just had a real rough time of it all, and you know, he keeps rising back and you know, shining out. But this time it's really knocked him down. It's taking so much out of him, and he he's so wanting to be back out and meeting up with a fan. But I mean, financially he needs it, obviously. He really needs the work, he needs the finances. But also he just you know, it's his time to be with everybody and he's you know, he's really hurting for that. He won he wants to be needing fans and and connecting. So it's it's so hard because every time he sits up he gets dizzy, he you know, he he's struggling. Yeah. He's struggling a whole lot.

SPEAKER_01

We're all pulling for him to be back around the fans just because I think it's gonna be physically healing as well as mentally healing for him to be among the folks who love him.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Exactly. And he's done, you know, just in the past few years, he's been doing so much really exciting work, you know. His career was getting a whole new injection into it and you know, a whole new chapter with new films, you know, swallowed and and he just did the Philistine, you know, he's got a number of projects that he he completed and yet more to come.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean Elm Street too, for sure, is in terms of your whole team i you know, had a such a huge impact, right? And the gay community give an icon to give the final girl of the screen queen, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and what a thing. Like it to be so first, you know, going through the ring and like being blamed and hated and spat upon and basically chased out of the country almost, you know, and then to finally have much, much later in life this resurgence and this renewed love, you know, and now I think you know Elm Street 2 is probably the most popular, if not the second most.

SPEAKER_01

No, I agree with you, and uh it it really you brings us joy. That movie would that was treated so disrespectfully upon release is now like it's got this new life, and I know that they're remastering all the films, and I'm really looking forward to seeing those new visions, especially part two.

SPEAKER_02

Jack Scholder was you know out there doing uh working with with his one of brothers doing the remastering of it. But I'm so glad his loving fans are reaching out to him. I mean, it means the world to him and you know, keep keep going. Even, you know, people that can't give money, just reminding him how much he's loved and just continually is is really a a great gift.

Johnny Depp, Amanda Wyss & Beatrice’s Full-Circle Elm Street Story

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, absolutely. It's and I've had the privilege of meeting, you know, quite a few um of the Elm Street, the different films cast, and everybody is just so full of joy and just welcoming, and so it seems like a good family to be part of.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. Like every family, they are some in fighting and some squabbles and siblings that fight all the time, but overall it's a very loving, you know, inclusive family.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm curious as you know, someone who's not big into the gore and stuff as as an empath, when you got the role, had you seen any of the previous films and did you feel compelled to, if you hadn't, to watch them before you played Amanda?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, it was interesting. I had only seen Elm Street, the first one. It was terrifying, and I just remember looking over my chalkboard alone was just ah even thinking about it. I can feel literally thinking about it, I feel in my chest this sort of like, you know, it's a visceral thing. I think I was in theater school when I watched it, and it was so funny because you know, here I was like, you know, studying to be an actor, going to this movie, seeing this brand new thing, you know, first time being introduced to this character, Freddie Kruger, and the whole idea of a a beast that can uh you know get you through your dreams, you know, and then meeting these characters, Johnny Depp and stuff, who that was the first time seeing him, Amanda Weiss, first time seeing her, and then literally within five years, I worked with Johnny Depp on 21 Stumpf Street. I, you know, worked with Amanda Weiss on a on a film in Vancouver. I got the first woman firefighter, and then I end up playing Robert, you know, Freddy's mother. Like, like, whoa, this is so bizarre. But yeah, no, I didn't, other than the first, I had not seen two, three, or four. And to be honest, I didn't even realize that Amanda had been portrayed. At that time, I didn't realize she'd been portrayed before. And I'm glad I did not see it because we portrayed her so differently. Maybe they would have been more consistent, but I don't know a the fans that hated on five, I think would have hated on it even if I played her to be more like Nance Nance Amanda. That I don't think would have made a difference. And it was showing a different part of her, you know, it was showing the young because he when he brings her back in five, he's to give her life, you know, and and people always, you know, are like, How can you be his mom? You know, if you're you're so much younger than he is, and it's like, no, because when I when she gave birth, she was of course older than him. Martin herself, at that point she was already in her sixties, so she would have been almost seventy when we did five. So obviously she couldn't have played it. They could have made a totally different choice. That might have been cooler in some ways, don't you think? Like her giving birth. But I think the whole idea was, you know, kind of pulling back to that time that she had given birth to him. That's why she was young again. So she was the young mom giving birth. However, he still comes at people are like, why you know, why is he all burnt up? Because he's being reborn. Like this is now Freddie Krueger trying to come back through being born again. So he's coming back through as he's already now the burnt up Freddie. My favorite or thing, prop, I guess, is is the baby Freddie. Which I thought they just did such an amazing job. I love that little guy. Yeah. I it you know, his just his whole little face and uh, you know, I just I'm wearing his earrings right now. I'm wearing a little Freddy Kruger earrings. A friend of mine who cosplays Freddy Kruger all the time, talking about round-up.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, speaking of the earrings, that one of the it's really cool to see the gifts that the fans bring you. Can you talk a little bit like how did that get started and what was your reaction when somebody brought you something the first time?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I was so touched. Somebody had made like a little Freddy Kruger Elm Street House, you know, the little street house, a little model of it, and he gave me that, and I was just like so moved and touched, and you know, I put it in my office, and then it's funny because my office sort of evolved. Like I I what I do most of the time right now is I a yoga teacher, so I have all this yoga, you know, beautiful love piece, all kinds of stuff around my studio in my office. But as fans started giving me more art, you know, paintings and pictures of glove and uh Amanda's and baby Freddie's and paragraph's you know, just amazing, amazing stuff. I just started collecting it and I sometimes do a podcast myself. Um, John Henderson called DK and the B, DK for Blue Space Crypt, and the B being me, carabuz. And it's just a way to connect. For me, it's a way to be able to connect with fans, you know, and we always try to give out a prize and gotten to know a lot of people that way. But anyway, so what they see in the background, my office, it's become this whole wall of Amanda Kruger and Nightmare on Elm Street. It's it's honors the fans that gave me that art and it's honoring Amanda Krueger. And you know, if anyone when I die, if anyone's like really, you know, if there's some horror museum that wants to have a Amanda Kruger corner next to their Freddie Krueger massive room, they can they can tap into my family and get that because I'm sure I have more Amanda Kruger stuff than anyone on the planet.

The Yoga Teacher Who Quit Over a Pamela Voorhees Photo

SPEAKER_01

But have there been any times when the yoga world and the horror world have kind of meshed together for you?

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, back to Scarefest, they were the first of the only show actually that had me also do a yoga class, which I'll be doing again at Scarefest this fall. It's like Killer's Stretch with Amanda Krueger. So I kind of lead people in a nice stretch that you can work out your kinks from walking around the floor of the convention all weekend. But I've also had it collide in a negative way. It was the strangest experience, and I'm sure he won't ever listen to this podcast, but if he ever does, I had a yoga teacher that was teaching at my studio. I hire a lot of teachers as well as teach myself. But this one guy, you know, most of the people start to know that I also played Amanda Kruger. I don't know normally announce it, but he was working at my studio. And one day he was subbing for me. I was filming Pamela Voorhees for Blood Loss, Friday the 13th Blood Loss and Film. And he had texted me saying, Oh, do I am I subbing for you or will you be back in time? And I said, Oh, we just wrapped up, I'll be coming back. And I sent him a photo on the phone, and it's just a picture of me, you know, just as Pamela. So I'm wearing a little wig and I got the blue, you know, her blue sweater and whatnot. I didn't have any blood on me. But next to me was the actor who sang Jason. And, you know, he had the full mask and everything. Yeah, you know, and as Jason often is, there's some you know, fake blood on his shirt. But it was just us hugging like mom and son. There's no dead bodies, nothing gory, anything like that. Well, the reaction was so negative. The guy's like for sending something so vile again. Like, whoa, I'm sorry, like, whatever, I'm sorry. No, I don't want to hear any of this toxic imagery. Like, okay, I'm sorry. And then so later on I tried to call him because if he's working at my studio, I'm you know, I'm his employer. I don't want him to be hating this other half of what I do. So I wanted to explain to him kind of what your your show is about, you know, like there's actually a surprise, surprise, there's a healing side to it that actually you know is a positive thing. It's not all just score and violence. So I wanted to share that with him. I thought it'd be an interesting thing because it was new to me. So I call him and he won't answer, and I call again and I leave a message saying, Please call me back. I want to explain something that I've learned as a yoga teacher about the horror film. And he texts back, he goes, Don't call me again.

SPEAKER_03

Like, what?

SPEAKER_02

So I texted again saying, Excuse me, I you know, we work together, I want there's something I just want to explain to you. And then he sent me a message saying, I quit. I can't work at such a toxic place and like really had this huge reaction and ended up like really dissing me on put put a review on yelping. Review, yelped. Couldn't believe it, like this nasty thing in the c I've had I've bought the studio almost twenty years and there's all like five, you know, five stars out of five. He gives a one star, don't go to this place, it's toxic. The woman is a horror fan and and and talks about horror and like just this horrible thing. And it c it had to come to terms with like there's something in him that's triggered by this, and there's yeah, right I don't know what it is, but it was so beyond scope of you know, and be flexible and and to not want to hear somebody like I I I can't think of any situation in life where I mean, unless it's been going on and on and on, and you know, every time you talk to this person, it just goes nowhere and it becomes bitter and something like that. I could see, maybe not wanting to, you know, enough, let's just stop, you know. But this is like the first time we've gotten along great, everything had been beautiful and yogic up until he saw that one photo. So, you know, I can't imagine almost anybody reaching out to me saying, I need to explain something to you. I would listen. Of course. You'd listen. Just to hear what they have, just doesn't mean you're gonna agree with it. And certainly I wasn't trying to make him what horror. And if after I explained it, he was still like, okay, I get it, but you know, at least don't tell me those. I just don't want to see a picture. Maybe he was really attacked by Jason.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what his back story is, but as you were telling that, I was thinking just how bizarre, like of all types of healers, a yoga practitioner you just think of them as like open-minded people and like to not even give you the opportunity to explain something. It's not like Jason was holding your bloody head.

SPEAKER_02

Right. You know, and that was the other thing, too. If I had sent an image, you know, even if it's acting, I get it. Like if it's a you know, gory, because like I as I mentioned to you, I'm empathic and I feel things. And I I remember just to sidestep a uh a story on that. I was years ago, actually right after doing Elm Street, I was living in LA and I wanted to try my hand at writing, script writing, and I got ended up getting a job offer to write a script about the Bullpal explosion in India, Union Carbide explosion, when a bunch of people were killed and whatever. And so I was researching it. I was working as a waitress at the time in in the Marina Del Rey little clubhouse or something, and I'm during my break, I'm reading this book on it, and I'm reading and my eyes start to water and my nose, I start sneezing and stuff. And I didn't even put two and two together, but as I was reading, it was describing what was happening, like the gases were leaking, people's eyes were getting red and their throats were starting to hurt. One of the other waiters walks in and goes, Holy shit, what's wrong with you? I said, What? And he goes, Look at your face. My whole face had swollen up. My eyes, everything puffed out and everything. And I was like, What the hell? And it was just from reading that, like my body actually physically took on all the things. And it's been a danger as a yoga teacher because I'm telling you, it's happened too many times to be a coincidence where somebody will come in with an injury, somebody, a friend had broken like five ribs skiing, and I, you know, I you know, I went and dropped off some soup at his house, and the very next day I slipped on the ice and broke five ribs on the exact same side. Somebody brought their finger, caught in a blender. And I remember thinking, and it's actually the somebody was my mom, to be honest with you, but gee, she got her finger caught in a blender and had to get eight stitches on her left finger, uh the middle finger or the second finger of her left hand. And I remember thinking, oh my god, you know, maybe she's she needs to be put in a home. Like she really got in that scenario. Like, who'd be so stupid as to put their Finger in a blender. I did it the next like l literally about a week later. And the same thing happened, and I ended up getting switches in that same finger. They had an herniation, they ended up having to get surgery, and the exact same thing happened to me the same L4, L5, L5, L4, the same joints. I have to get shoes just after this guy. It's just freaky. That's why it's for me to watch horror films.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Well, we really appreciate you uh taking some time out of your schedule to speak with us. And so just one more question, and uh hopefully this isn't a tough one, but this is the one that we ask every guest at the end, and that is who's your favorite final person, survivor, in a horror movie?

SPEAKER_02

I'd say Mark and Kim together.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That was such a freaking beautiful love story.

SPEAKER_01

It was, for sure. Perfect. That was I that you know, I had a feeling that you might say Mark, but thank you for throwing Kim in there as well, because I had the pleasure of meeting her, and and she's awesome. Would love to have them actually both on at the same time. That would be a really fun episode. That was Beatrice Bubble, our beloved mama Kruger, reminding us that horror isn't about cruelty, it's about compassion, courage, and community. What happened to her at Scarefest was awful, but the way the fans, the staff, and the fellow actors rally around her proves what our horror family is really made of. The thief and the extortionist don't define us. We define us. Through love, through laughter, through showing up for each other. You can continue showing up right now. Please support our friend Mark Patton by donating to his medical fund. Again, link in the show notes. And you can support Beatrice directly by visiting our shop of autographed and collector items. Again, in the show notes. Because when someone asks you, is horror good for mental wellness? You tell them. Of course it is. The Horror Reveals podcast is produced and presented by How the Kali DeCavage LLC.