Why Horror People Always Find Each Other with Spooky Kisses

What happens when horror fans sit down and just start talking?

In part one of our conversation with Spooky Kisses, we go everywhere, haunted attractions, horror conventions, scare acting, creepy abandoned places, terrifying childhood memories of secretly watching The Exorcist, and why horror fans always seem to find each other.

We talk about iconic haunts like Pennhurst Asylum, Haunted Overload, and The Darkness, plus Corey’s old journalism days working with haunted attractions in St. Louis.

There’s also a surprising amount of conversation about Terrifier 3, creepy wells from The Ring, grave robbers in Pennsylvania, and one unforgettable family photo with Kane Hodder.

But underneath all the horror nerding out, this episode also gets into something bigger: why horror spaces can feel so welcoming to outsiders, weird kids, healthcare workers, neurodivergent people, and anyone looking for a place to belong.

Because sometimes haunted houses and horror conventions really do become a second family.

Part 2 next week! 

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If you want to support our guests, check the show notes for links to their work, conventions, and fundraising pages.

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Is horror good for mental wellness? Of corpse it is.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Hello, Boils and Heels. It's your old pal, John Kiss Dear, the voice of the Cripkeeper. And I want to welcome my good fiends of the Horror Heels Podcast. Is horror good for mental wellness? But of course it is!

Corey 0:29

Hey everyone, welcome to Horror Heels. I'm Corey. And this week we're talking with horror host, Hunt Fanatic, and all-around horror community super fan Squeaky Kisses. This episode goes all over the place in the best possible way. We talk about haunted attractions, horror conventions, scare actors, creepy abandoned places, trying to secretly watch The Exorcist as kids, and somehow end up discussing grave robbers in one very memorable family photo with the one and only Kane Hotter. Which honestly feels pretty on brand for the podcast at this point. We also spent a lot of time talking about haunted attractions, including Penthurst Asylum, Pottered Overload, and The Darkness, which brought back a ton of memories for me because I actually worked at The Darkness years ago during my journalism days back in St. Louis. There's a lot of laughing and silliness in this one, a lot of horror nerding out, and really it just felt like hanging out with somebody who completely understands why horror people are the way we are. Here's part one with Spooky Kisses. Hey Spooky Kisses, welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:32

Let me ask you guys, how did you get interested in horror and everything?

Corey 1:36

In horror? Lifelong fan. Both of us were when we were little kids, were crawling down the hallway because when the Exorcist first aired on TV, you know, the TV version, we were intrigued. Kendall was intrigued to watch it sneakily. My mom was watching it, I remember by herself. And I didn't even get a glimpse of the TV. I was just on the hallway just enough where she couldn't see me, but I could hear, and this is the exorcism scene, right? So it's all that all that it's the sound of the movie is amazing. And I'm sure I gasped or made some sort of noise that she found out. Same thing with Kendall. Yeah, he was behind the couch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:11

I got a screen story like that because I wasn't allowed to watch it, and I was always on TV, same thing. And of course, you're not allowed to watch it, and so you sneak, and then same thing. I had nightmares forever. Because I was, I was probably well, I was younger than her, but still a young girl, right? So yeah, I totally could relate to that story.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

My dad was always a huge horror fan, and so when he was telling me that this was coming out, I was like, Oh, I want to see that. He's like, No, no, no, no, no, that's not gonna happen. Your mother will lose her shit if she no, that's not gonna happen. So, of course, that this intrigued me that much more.

Corey 2:48

You know, how it fluctuates, but like, or say something was the exorcist for sure. And and not think just because of the how much that we loved it, you're or just when we were so exposed to it as little kids. I mean, we literally have an exorcist shrine in our breakfast. No way. Yes, and now I'll send you a photo of it. Yes, yes. One of the very first interviews I ever did as a journalist was with Linda Blair. And this was back in the day when it was like tree horror conventions and stuff like that. So she was coming into to St. Louis to promote a haunted attraction there. St. Louis for a time was one of the top cities in the country for horror attractions. I mean a lot of fun. And they still have some amazing ones there. So I don't know if you ever get the opportunity during Halloween season, Spooky, to check it out. It's the darkness haunted theme party. Blow your own.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

Oh, wait, well, that's what this season we might hit Ohio and do all the ones there. We still have 12 that need to be edited for season three. So season one and season two are on Amazon, and uh they're also on Screenbox. And season three, we're hoping to get an exclusive. So we've been trying really hard to be, I don't want to say real, but get a real thing. I mean, we went to uh a convention for you know for for reality TV, but not really reality. So we went to it and everybody was interested, but they didn't really want it because it's seasonal and also it's horror. So it's a funny horror. But they were like, we don't know where to put you. We don't know where to put this. It's like, is this heavy metal?

Corey 4:15

Like we're gonna know soon as enough because you know as well as we do how the horror is back in the mainstream.

SPEAKER_04 4:21

I actually think, you know, I'm not so much I'm in like you guys, I'm assuming, because you said you like The Exorcist, and I really like a story. I like a, you know, more Rosemary's baby. I love that's one of my favorites, or like the shining, kind of real creepy, you know. But I really love Terra Fire Three, even how gory it was and everything. I really do love it. I thought it was really good. Yeah, it's really good.

Corey 4:43

Damien Leone has been able to do, you know, a small budget and budgets have got a little bit bigger as the films have gone on. The practical effects are he should have been nominated for an Oscar for the makeup and stuff, too. And he has promised to be on the podcast, so we'll hopefully we'll get him on.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Is that I I want to be in it at Terrifier 5, maybe. And I but I want to die at the beginning because I can't take the scariness or we'll die right away. Just kill me off right away.

Corey 5:09

He's saying you would just watch your scene and not and it goes on to the whole movie.

SPEAKER_04 5:15

I that's what I think should happen. We'll see.

Corey 5:17

I don't know how he's gonna up the ante for kills for this one. It's with it.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

Yeah, it's really really yeah. I can't get my husband to watch it. So I can't I can't say, come on, you gotta see it. Come on. What go ahead? Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

No, I'm sorry, interrupted, interrupted.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

No, you go. You said he said oh yeah, he just won't watch it. Like he's not really super. The funny thing about him is he respects like horror and stuff, but he really likes thrillers more, and he's like not as much into it as I am, and or into different gory, gross things. Like he won't go to graveyard. We were in New Orleans and he was like, I don't really want to walk Run Hot Semitari. Let's do it.

Corey 5:58

Yeah, we did our photo shoot for this podcast at an abandoned insane asylum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Oh, cool. Which one? It was uh, yeah, it's not too far from us, it's about an hour north of here. I can't remember, right? You had to remember the name of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:12

Have you guys been to Pennhurst Asylum in Pennsylvania?

SPEAKER_03 6:17

No.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

You gotta go. Because that was our first one of our first shows. What was the first one we put out, and they hardly let anybody film in there, they didn't really want to, but they let us. And yeah, I think it came out pretty good for a first first one. I heard a story, you guys gotta go if you're gonna go fast, because I heard that they're trying to put one of those computer thingies there.

Corey 6:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The data center, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:42

But you have to go, and this is why. Even if you uh you you don't go to the the scary attraction, right? Just the feeling in there is so spooky and so gross, and it's just like it's like get, you know, you guys have to check it out. I love it. Because before they close, I think they might close, but hopefully they're fighting it, so maybe they won't.

Corey 7:03

Kendall is um, he's a skeptic, does not believe in any of that boo stuff. No, I'm a little bit like more open to it, and it might be because I spent the first chunk of my career in a town in right outside of St. Louis called Alton, Illinois, which is considered one of the most haunted small towns in the country. Yeah. And I I hadn't an experience in the McPike mansion when it was just me and the owner because it was dilapidated. But I definitely we were down in the coal cellar, and I swear to God, we only should be in there. Somebody grabbed my shoulder. Something grabbed my shoulder.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

But nothing's ever grabbed you before, so that's why you don't believe it.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Till it happens to me. I'm like, Yeah, once it happens to you, then you'll be like, Oh, then I'll shit my pants and it'll it's it'll be all all on.

Corey 7:50

Oh, and there was so uh and there was a psychic, like a prominent psychic coming through to do us a a talk in St. Louis, and I reached out to him and I said, We've gotta come and check out Limited Pike Mansion. And the night before his flight, he said something was trying to choke him in his sleep and telling him not to visit.

SPEAKER_04 8:09

Oh wow, that's so weird.

Corey 8:10

He did, and it was right around the time that the owners found a like a stone infant casket half buried in the yeah, wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

I love marketing, I love marketing. So I'm just see, that's who I am. I'm like, really?

SPEAKER_04 8:27

Well, you're like my husband. Yeah, you're like that's a great story, and I'll help you promote it, but but you won't believe it because, anyways, those ghost shows are so boring because you don't know if it's real or not, where the guys are like, Oh, it's fine to go, so like you know for me, it's the pacing, like it's too I don't know, it seems formulaic at this point. It is, it's like I I never liked those shows. Same as like watching a magician on TV, they could fake it so easy, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Yeah, yeah. No, it's funny, but I have to say something I've said probably often on this podcast. But I'm in I'm a human resources guy and I have been doing it for 30 years, and I'm so over it. I'd love to leave the that. But I'll say to Corey on some Friday night, so when I've had a shitty week, I'm like, honey, can we watch somebody get murdered? Can I? I just I just need to.

SPEAKER_04 9:20

Oh yeah, because this is why this is called horror heals. Yeah. So here how like you heal yourself with it. I think, yeah, that makes total sense. I think, but a lot of people that are involved in horror or watching movies or all that stuff probably are a little bit off in some way.

Corey 9:35

We all are, yeah. No, I think that's why we're attracted to it because we're we're the freaks, mister. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

Do you think that's why? Or what do you think the psych I always ask this on our show? What do you think the psychological reason is for it, really?

Corey 9:48

I think part of it is uh feeling like an outsider. I didn't come out of the closet until I was 21. And and Kendall knew much earlier in life that you know that he that he was. So I think it's just you relate to the not just the outsider, but the person who's willing to get up and fight. You know, like we we we say final person on the show because we want to be all inclusive, but like the final girl trope. The final girl trope. I mean, it's just like you, of course, you're cheering for you know, for the final girl, the survivor, Nancy.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

That makes me really sick.

Corey 10:25

Well, and here's the thing, and and you know, obviously, this is the last question of the episode, but the last question we always ask is who is your favorite final person in a horror movie, the survivor? And we had a really interesting one where it was Samara from the ring, which is like, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:39

Oh my god, that movie scares the you know what out of me. It just does. It's like that movie. I'm first of all, I don't have any kids, and I'm scared of little kids. I'm scared of I am, and um, you are yeah, and then she kind of thought of we almost bought a house that had a that looked just that. I thought, listen, I don't think I can live here because it really looked like that, and it had a board over at the great big board. My husband's like, oh, well, make it into a bar. It's a good idea though, but it's a cool idea, right? You have a fake mannequin that looks like a bartender that looks like the ring girl, right? But no, that movie really freak on it.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

It still does, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:16

It's really cool.

Corey 11:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:17

I don't know if she's my favorite survivor, though. I don't know. That's a tough question.

Corey 11:22

Yeah, put that in the back of your head for now and then we'll remember.

SPEAKER_04 11:24

Maybe it'd be terrifier for you, because doesn't he still lives, right? Terrifier, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Oh, yeah. Art.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

He still lives. I just can't really root for these wimpy people, like the people. I mean it's a hard. It is Disney villains into the I don't know. I guess a root for the villain. Yeah, I love when you root for Jack Nicholson because he dies, he's all frozen in that maze.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

He doesn't make it, yeah. He definitely's I'm a huge, I know it's stereotypical to like the like serial shows, but I love Friday the 13th, and I love Adrienne King and what she did in that first movie. But I also love the fact that Jason is the one that takes her down. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 12:10

Yeah, right. Even though you love her, you're like, oh yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

This is for Mrs. Maurice is cool, but I love that that creepy ass guy that comes out of the water and takes her over the boat.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

You guys go to haunted attractions?

SPEAKER_01 12:25

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

So what's your favorites?

Corey 12:28

Oh gosh, we mentioned haunted overload briefly. Oh, is it just incredible what they've done as a family to put that together?

SPEAKER_04 12:34

And it was like it's just Eric.

Corey 12:37

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:38

Pretty much, but then he has a build team, but he gets his actors to build it. It's like because I went when I was at Pennhurst, that's kind of like rich people. They bought the building, they're like, Oh, we have multi-millions of dollars. Let's just buy the most expensive stuff and shove it in there. But so it's real expensive to go. But then Eric is just like an artist, he wants to do his art. And so, because when I was at Pennhurst, I said, Do you have your scare actors build this stuff? And they're like, No, but that's what Eric does. They're all the regular. Yeah, and the aesthetic there is ideas, and he makes these models, and then he's like, Okay, we're gonna build this giant 50-foot skull with smoke, and then this is how we're gonna do it. And that's then the regular people, and most of his team are like little girls, like five foot girls, and uh, and they make it.

Corey 13:25

That's so cool. So we were we went with our cousins a couple years ago, and I think we were more impressed with the time you spend waiting in line to actually get into the haunted traction because everything you're seeing is so photogenic, it's so original and crazy. I don't know when you were there, or did if they had an actor that was doing the headless horseman like off in the distance, not anywhere close. It's so it's just like one of the horses died, and then she got another horse.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

I'm very close with them because we're right half an hour away from there. Yeah. So we have filmed them many times, and the last show that we just put up on Amazon is too long because to be honest, it's like an hour and a half long because we went there so many times. Like then we had all this footage, and it was too good to like, oh well, should we scrap this? No, let's put that in. But um, so it is a little bit too long. We they have like cast parties and they have these fun things where they all get together and they go down, you know, they get those little cars that kids are on out of the garbage, and they they go down a hill in their costumes just for fun in the middle of summer. And um, we did that, and um, you know, it's they have a lot of fun. We've considered them friends. Uh Eric's never been over the house or anything, but some of the cast has, like when we have parties, like, hey, we just invite everybody, you know. That's so cool. And so we know them pretty well. They're one of my favorite hunts. So and then my other favorite haunt is Field of Screams in Pennsylvania because it's so gross and scary, and they can touch you. And I almost didn't go because they could touch you. But then somebody said, Well, they're only gonna touch your ankle or your hair. So it's like, okay, I'll do it. And I was like pretty new at it. I was like, I don't know about this, but it was so good. It's like I recommend you guys go to that one. Fill this two filled screams, but only go to the one in Pennsylvania. Very cool.

Corey 15:13

We think you should definitely check out the darkness in St. Louis. It is it's been around for decades.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

Yeah, I think that probably wants to film with us too. I'm pretty sure that's the one, and we're gonna get to it. It's just we can only do so many because it takes us like three days to film. Of course. Um and it's in the season, so we can only get to so many of the season. We go on the road for like six weeks and we put our dogs in, boarding, we don't come home, it's exhausting.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Right.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

And we want to kill ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Yeah, no, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

We turned to film us, we're like, hey, let's film us filming the show, and we'll make a little mini documentary. But it was all us bitching and complaining. That's how we do it.

SPEAKER_03 15:56

That would be us. We would be like, Yeah, wow. Yeah, I'm so tired, I'm exhausted, I don't want to. Oh my god, like my body hurts.

Corey 16:04

You miss the animals, yeah. Spooky, I'll tell you, um, one of my internships that I did when I was in college was for a PR company, and they represented darkness and a couple of their haunted houses. And I know what spooky easily Kendall does. I scare the crap out of the city all the time. But one of my duties as an intern was to guide people, like this was like during the day, but you know, you're still inside this huge, it's like it's an old fashioned, right? And so you're guiding them through, like giving them a tour, and then you got to go back through it by yourself to get back to the other side. That was that's creepy. And the other thing that's creepy that only creeped me out a little bit worse was I don't know if you've heard of Body Worlds, but it's this exhibit where they actually make art out of actual cadavers.

SPEAKER_04 16:47

And so that on TV.

Corey 16:48

I went to a media event there, and then I was doing, but the person I was interviewing, the one of the designers, wasn't there yet. So I left and came back and just walking through that by myself. Now I'm walking through a sea of corpses with weird.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

Did you guys say about the guy in Pennsylvania, the grave robber guy? Yeah, it's all over the news. I was gonna do a show on it, but then when I was on YouTube, a lot of people have done shows on it. This guy, it's in it, he's not been convicted yet, but he kept sneaking into this graveyard in Pennsylvania and stealing body parts, skulls, and everything. And so he was just taking a crowbar and just opening up, you know, the big mausoleums and stuff. Yeah, and then he was selling them on Instagram, right? Oh my god. He sold one skull for a thousand dollars. And uh my dad used to own a pawn shop, and I happen to know that if you sell stolen stolen goods, not the because my dad would buy you stuff, and sometimes it would be stolen. Then what would happen is the cops will come in and just take it, they will just take it back. So they're gonna go to where we're in Chicago, where we sold that skull and be like, ah, this is ours now. We're gonna take this skull back.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

We need this.

SPEAKER_04 18:01

I like a lot of true crime too. Anyways, this guy has 400 counts against him, and he's 32. He's going to jail for a long time because when they caught him, he had a bag. They caught him red-handed, and inside he had two baby corpses and some skulls. And so it was right handed. Can he say, Well, what? You know, I mean he's got it. So they went to his house and then he had like a half-rotten cadaver hanging from the ceiling and like all these bones and stuff and skulls there. And so they go, Is this all you got? Because we know you have a storage unit. He's like, Yeah, that's all I got. So they went to the storage and then there's more. It was like more bodies. So, anyways, don't go into the crawl space. Yeah, don't so they're like, What's up with this guy? Was he gonna be a serial killer? I don't know. I think he was just trying to make money. We probably liked it, like the skulls and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

But he probably was like, Oh, I could make this for this. It just removed himself. Because imagine if it was like your Aunt Hilda.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 18:59

And I was like, That's my Aunt Hilda, and you got her in the room. It was cool.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

And I'm not I'm not really weird about memorializing the dead, but I get it that a lot of people are, yeah, and how disrespectful to well.

SPEAKER_04 19:13

I mean, I think if it's somebody you know that died, you'd be kind of pissed off about it.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

I mean, I'm not like I'm not because I understand skulls are cool and all that, get that. But I think the same level, if it was somebody I knew, I'd be for sure, for sure. Yeah.

Corey 19:30

It's so interesting though. Yeah. So Spooky, I'm curious because I did work as a scare actor for only one night back when I was a teenager. Well, the fog the fog got to me. The fake fog inside because it was an indoor I know. And it was, and I think it was part of it was the repetition. I was a zombie.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

Which one did you work at?

Corey 19:48

I worked at the darkness for one night.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

Oh, okay. One night.

Corey 19:52

Full makeup, but like a whole shebang.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

What was your did you what noise did you make? What part did you do?

Corey 19:57

I I was a zombie. So I would come out, I came out through a door or whatever, and got really close to people and stuff. But it was the I was right next to a fog machine. I had like coal miners' lungs by the time I got.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

Oh god.

Corey 20:09

So one night was a little vested.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

Yeah, um, I've never been a scare actor because when I was a kid, you know, like only place I went to all the time pretty much was Spooky World, but it never even dawned on me that I could do it. Like it wasn't like an I like because you don't even think about it. You go to these things and you're like, yeah, and you never even think about like, hey, I could get a job here and I could do this. I like now it is. I mean, because it's gotten so much better because it used to be like just strobe lights, and you're like, oh, this is lame. But now it's incredible. Like these people, like their whole theater things, but I yeah, I would have probably done it, you know. And I I have done it like briefly, like I did it haunted overload just for fun so we could film it. But it's really hard to scare people. Like, I never know what I'm doing. Like, I could get made up, but I never know what to do. Um I have no clue.

Corey 21:02

We went to Snoopy World a few years back with Kendall's half-brother and his nephew and two of his nephews' friends, and it was like I hadn't been to a haunt like that in several years. I was so impressed with the level of the acting and stuff. There were people who were fan frigantastic, and um, and so Kendall was fine, but I was sitting with his nephew and we were just cracking up because we're on the haunted hayride portion, and his two buddies are in the laps of their friend's dad, just shaking their boots. We're just looking at them cracking up because people because the actors were jumping on and off the hay ride.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

A long time ago when I was a kid, Spooky World was different. Spooky World was a big deal, and they had Ovira there, and they would have Alice Cooper there, and they would have and Bill Maher was announcing it. You could see it on YouTube if you look it up, and it was different, it was awesome.

Corey 21:55

Yeah, we were talking to you before we started recording about our original podcast, Family. Twist, but when we first visited with to come out and meet Kendall's birth family for the first time, there was a convention that's no longer in existence called Rock and Shock in Worcester Max. And just happened to be the same weekend we were visiting. And so we went with Kendall's brother and sister and two nephews and met to Kane. Met Kane and got to tell him the story. And we have a family photo of Kane in the middle with all of us.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

And I had literally met my siblings the day before.

Corey 22:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

In person. Yeah. It was bizarre.

Corey 22:30

So Kane is like a big touchstone, yes, in a lot of ways. But I saw Spooky, I'm curious because what I think when it really dawned on me that the horror heals and horror be good for mental wellness could be the perfect theme for our podcast was when I was at a horror convention and experiencing, as I said, we're the outcasts, we're the freaks and stuff. But when we all come together as a community, we protect each other, nobody's gonna get bullied. It's just everyone's accepted. And so I think but I've I sensed that too with haunts, like the people who have been doing the haunts and stuff together forever, even though they're just pals. It's like a family.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

And so it's really, really awesome. But like they all say the same thing. When you ask them a question, they're like, This is our family. Our haunt's different. We're like a family, but they also they all say, you know, they all have this, they all very attached to each other, you know, and and it's camaraderie, and they make friends and and they feel accepted. And some of them have autism, some of them don't. Some of them are just crazy. It really helps them. Or and a lot of them say, too, it gets out by being a Han actor, it gets out all that aggression, and they can just let it out, and then they can be a nice person the rest of the time. So many nurses and medical professionals are Han actors because they have to be so nice, right? Yeah, how they're all in the hospital. You should probably have to deal with a lot of stuff.

Corey 24:18

But you can get all your stuff out by scaring on people.

SPEAKER_04 24:21

Yeah, by scaring it, you know, because it's one lady who's like, you know, yeah, I work as a nurse, a burn nurse in the burn unit. These are my real bandages that she had all over her. Wow. And so it was really, really funny. I was like, okay, you know.

Corey 24:34

I know I keep bringing up the Family Trust podcast, but we're very close with on Kendall's birth mother's side, his sister, and we've got a text chain going with she's a NICU nurse. Three of her besties are as well. So we've got this text chain going with the we call them the NYU nurses. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

And uh no, we call them the NH Babes.

Corey 24:54

Oh, though that's right. We changed it. From that from that, yes, we changed it at New Hampshire Baseball. And we're part of that too, so it's not sexes. Yeah, no, they were. They were there with me. We went all went to the beach together and got placed together for my 50th. It was so they become like our besties. But they're getting into horror.

unknown 25:10

Yeah.

Corey 25:10

And I wonder if that would be something that they would consider doing. I'm gonna put that into the text today.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

Like, put it out there because they can't they have to be so nice, and it's so hard to be nice all the time, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 25:20

And and hard to deal with.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

Crazy people, yeah. Most of the people that are harder to deal with are the relatives than more than the sick people, right? Because so yeah, they could get out all that aggression, right? Because the sick people, the not the sick people, the relatives are always like, Oh my god, I gotta tell you.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

Yeah, we've probably got enough past just a bunch of grumbling.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Someone said that dealing with a sick baby is hard enough, but dealing with an irrational parent is ten times worse.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

I believe it. I believe it because the people are gonna go crazy and like, you know, well, no.

Corey 25:55

Okay, that was part one with our conversation with spooky kisses. I love episodes like this because it really just feels like horror fans sitting around talking about the weird stuff we all love. Haunted houses, creepy movies, conventions, being terrified as kids, all that stuff. In part two, we keep talking about haunt culture, horror fandom, conventions, and why horror people always seem to find each other no matter where they are. Until next time, remember is horror good for mental wellness? Of course it is. The Horror Heels Podcast is presented and produced by Mosaic Multimedia LLC.