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John Briggs and Martin Winnall Season 1 Episode 26

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Welcome to Sports Biz, episode 26 with more frivolity, fun and pheromones with Mr. Martin Rinnell, aka the dog. Hello, dog. Hello. And myself, John Briggs or Briggsy, as some of you prefer to call me, the only podcast you will ever need in your life. Because we hit all those open cracks in all the sports all the time. Because sport is life and life is sport. What's happening, Martin? Well, it's another great weekend. Isn't it? It's been a weekend, it's been a week. It's been all over the place. Yes. And we have our standard lists A League, EPL, NRL, Rugby Union, Super Rugby, AFL, Athletics, Boxing. Brilliant. What else? We got T8s. Yeah, okay. Tennis. We got V8s. Awesome. That makes a change. Probably we're going to hit some cracks. We're going to bounce off some helmets. That's right. And we're going to get a bit wacky. But first of all, we're going to cheers to episode number 26. Cheers to episode number 26. Cheers. And I will make my announcement. Are you pregnant? Later. No, not that I'm aware of. But if I wanted to be, I could be. Cheers. That would be inconceivable. Cheers. Later on this episode, we are going to visit the long-held traditions of Eki Thump. Eki thump. Eki thump. So we'll move, go in a big loop and come back to that a bit later. Sounds good to me. Sounds very northern English. Anyway, I've got a joke. In this day and age of equality, Martin, what are your thoughts, by the way, just on that? Uh yes, of equality. Oh, I like it. Right. I think it's a thing. Yeah, okay. Nice. Couple of things I've got to say about that. Oh, what's the equality across? Well, I got lucky. You didn't specify. I got lucky last night with a feminist prostitute. I don't like where this is going. She insisted on paying half. And on the other side of the coin. On the other side of that coin. The equal sort of coin. Well, sort of. Because you know how it used to be chivalrous to open a door. Yes. For a lady. Yes. Well, I opened one for one the other day.

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Isn't what she said to me?

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I'm no lady. Fuck off, I'm trying to have a shit. My eyes are closed. And it's terrible. I think we need sport. Oh my lord. Someone say that is. No, you must stop now. Shit we move on. It cannot be a third. No, no, no. Quick bites. Oh dear. Just some real quick bites. Yeah. Not something that we talk about very often, but horse racing. Oh, well, we've missed the spring carnival. What else is it? All the Grand National in England. Oh, okay. At Aintree in Liverpool. And I am Maximus. One. I'm Spartacus. Yeah, but you were close. Yeah, I know. So I'm Maximus. But thank you for the flexing. I know. Let me go. There is something. Go on. No, there is something. Yeah, indeed. So Maximus. I am Maximus. I am Maximus wins the Grand National. I am Maximus wins the Grand National. What do you get for winning the Grand National these days? I think they get money. Well, I would hope so. I don't know what. That's a lot of jumping. Yeah. Anyone put down? Not as far as I know. No. Okay. Well, that's a good race. Any good race. Well, that's right. With every everyone finishing, is a good race. That is always the problem with the Grand National. And what we didn't do, because I ecky thumped the cheers. But we will cheers to the Grand N Grand National. Cheers. Because we didn't discuss what it was. Right. I went a little bit abroad for this episode. We've done. Look at this. So we've done the Australian lager last man standing from Fortitude Valley in Brisbane for your friend and mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stephen the Legend Bradbury. Brothers. What a genius. The last man standing. It is still it's to be fair. So I'm actually having a sip of it this time. Yes, I suppose the last time. Yes, that's right. Well, you didn't go near it. To be fair, it's actually a very, very good drop. It's a really nice piece. Actually, yeah. Yeah, well, when he sat next to me and tried to get me to have some, you had already had some. I didn't even know who he was. I was thought it was this weirdo trying to. AFL grand fine. It was trying to give me something. I thought he was just some hack who was just sort of um beer sex. Swan and some beer. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know. Swan. Where was the old Swan beer from? Dunno. Perth. Swan River. Right. That was their version of VB and Tuies and Forex. Oh, okay. Yeah, they're real base. Oh, I remember now. Yes. In England, we had we had Fosters. Right. We didn't. And we had 4X, and that was it. Where we still never had Fosters. It was just so awful, we just shipped it all overseas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and Forex, we just basically confined it to Queensland. Right. Because the standing joke was they couldn't spell beer. That's right. Yeah. And the advert in England is that they couldn't give a 4X. That's the one? Did you have the same advertising? Yes. Alright, there you are. Okay, all right. Well, let's move on then so digressed. Cricket, Jimmy. Keep doing it. Jimmy Anderson. Oh, yes, he uh what did he do? He wrote uh a Michelle? No, well, that was last week. Okay. This week he's just taken four for eighteen in an innings. Lancashire beat four for eighteen? That's like nearly team again. What incredible. What happened to the Michelle? What happened to the? Well, a couple of the other players got some wickets, didn't they? So they beat Derbyshire in the county championship, which is your same version of the Sheffield Shield. Oh, okay. So he's as good as South Australia. How about that? Tennis. Tennis. Yannick Sinner. He's back. He beat Al Qaeda in the final. Did he at the Miami? Did Yannick Sinner rise over Easter? Well, very good. And he's beaten the prison guard. Well, the prisoner beats the prisoner's. Yeah, that's right, exactly. So the Sinner. By name. Sunset. Indeed. That's badly. No, it wasn't badly. It was very close and uh seven. Surely he surely he played well. They both played well. They both played well. So anyway, but uh it's just there. I mean, and in doing so, he's now be reclaimed the number one. It's just so really they keep every time they win one tournament, one of them wins one, he's number one. And the other one, he's number one. What was this tournament played on? Where where are we up to in that tennis? It's like uh it this was the Monte Carlo. Ah, so we so on the clay court then back to the Kjorn. Yeah, and the and the speeding circle. That's right, yeah. Nice. Just for those who didn't get that Potter's wheel of analogy humour. Indeed, that's right. Martin was referring to Clay. So not Cassius. No, not Cassius. So we'll talk about him another time, the greatest, my man. Now then, look, in the soccer, English soccer uh Premier League, the EPL. The EPL. Only this end we had, John. Well, can I just start, please, with this morning? Yes, I think you should, because I I noticed that as well and thought, well, goodness me. Both of my sons are Manchester United supporters. I got up this morning to watch. Why did you let them be brought up by their mind? By choice. They decide it's a democratic world we live in, Martin. They can choose whatever they want. You've done a Taylor Walker. So they've chosen to be Man United supporters, and my youngest son, Henry, was all excited to get up this morning and watch the match. I went into that last four. Avec moi. And for those listeners who don't know, that means with me, um, in uh in Francais. And um Yeah. Yeah, and what happened, John? Oh mate. It was at Manchester, it was at Old Trafford. It was at Old Trafford. Anybody would have thought it was at Elland Road because we played like the home team, and we went 2-0 up, and then they sent they had a man sent off for pulling some onto. Oh, well, it is soccer. I mean, really. And soccer just churns out to do. They churn out this stuff every couple of weeks with something else where you just shake your head.

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Oh my hair.

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Yeah. But it is not, you can't do that. So, no, no, yeah, obviously. So, anyway, Leeds win 2-1. Away at Great United. Leeds are 15th. Hang on, didn't United a third. Did men united score a goal when they were a man down? I think they did. Oh, yeah, okay. I think they did. It was a sort of opportunist sort of goal. Yeah, yeah, Leeds have shut up shopping defending the lead. Yeah, and then they but no Leeds, we probably should have won 4-1. Well, that would bring you into the dizzy heights of West Ham. Indeed. Who won? 4-0. Yes. Against the staggering talent of the Wolves, who I believe are sitting. Well, they're the strongest team in the whole of the division. Because they're holding up the rest. They're holding up the rest. Anyway. Yes, I know. So they're they're last. Yes. So what do we know about this? Well, uh also, even better, Sperms, I mean Spurs. Yes. They also lost. I was heading to this moment. What we know about this moment. They lost to Sunderland. Officially West Ham. Yes, of Leap From. Are 17th and out of relegation. Correct. And who has replaced them in 18th? Spurs. Totten! Spurs, yeah, that's right. So the Spuds. So they're now Absolute Spuds of the League. Indeed. They're now third from bottom. Burnley second from bottom, and Wolves are bottom. Weirdly enough, even I think there's six matches left. It's still mathematically possible for both Wolves and Burnley to stay up. I know it sounds ridiculous, but mathematically possible. Yes, yes, if they win and the teams above them lose, they're all that kind of shit. Yeah, it's gonna happen. But it doesn't matter. But Leeds do have Wolves next week. This will help Leeds. At home. We're at home. Well, that might hurt you. I know. I know. I'm just a bit, yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. So what's your home ground called? Ellen Road. Ellen Road. Is that named after Ellen DeGeneres? Ellen, not Ellen. I'm just asking. Well, it's spelt completely differently in Molly. Well, it sounds the same. Do you get upset with me, Ellen? Bizarre. So, anyway, so apart from that, the other end of the league, at the top end, not much has changed. Oh, yeah. Arsenal lost to Bournemouth. Oh, bloody Bournemouth. And Man City hammer Chelsea 3-0. And now they are only three points behind, I believe. And the race is on. The title is up. Six points behind, but a game in hand for Man City. Yeah, exactly. That's right. So the only question will be. Can they capitalise? Who else has a game in hand? Uh Crystal Palace. Yeah. Sitting in 13th. So City will be playing Palace. Yep. Yeah, you'd probably be one or two nil. And they've it looks like they could be timing their run right. Yeah, okay. Because Arsenal are known for the choke. Yeah. They are infamous for it. Personally, I want I do want Arsenal to win it. Because this Manchester stranglehold on the Premiership is a bit boring. Well, it's been a while since um United have been up there. Yeah, but then Man City took over. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah. But anyway, there you go. So the question is: is there a crack in the arse? Null. Yes. They might well be. They might, they might totten them. Indeed, yes. Yep. They could call a hot spur. We there was a big boxing match on at the weekend. I I did notice. Tyson Fury. Yes. Big comeback. All six. George Foreman style comeback? No. No. No. He was 16 months out. Fury is a. He obviously it's incredibly hard because he's a massive heavyweight boxer, but he's it's weird. He's got loads of knockouts, but he's not known as a knockout artist. What they call in boxing is a knockout artist. He's more known for his refined skills, which is even more bizarre because he's six foot flame in nine. He's just a great big bald-headed meat man. And he's huge, too. He's not finished. And he's he finesses the finesses around the ring, doesn't he? Absolutely. He does. Lovely. He's got so he switches from Southpoor to Orthodox to back and it just seamlessly without it. You go, hang on a second. Okay. Wasn't he? Leaning with me a second ago. Let me uh let me ask the the obvious question there. Yep. South poor to orthodox. Yes. For everyone who isn't a uh a budding, skipping fanatic. So in boxing, for whatever reason, they don't say left-handed or right-handed. They say if someone's a south paw, they say it's because he leads with his right, which actually means he's left-handed. So he punches harder with his left. Correct. Okay. So his right is like it is a jab. Yep. Like a rangefinder. Yeah. And the the follow-through. And the knockout punch is the left. Correct. So that's a south paw. Correct. So if you hear the word left-hander, and you if you even know you you could easily say, oh, so you're a south paw. Yeah. Anything. And they'd probably go, yeah, you're right. Where does south paw come from? I'm not sure. And and what how is it is it P-O-U-R? Is it P-O-R-E? Or is it P dou R? Mate. No, it's P-A-W. Oh, it's more like a dog. Indeed, as in paw. So there's obviously where the poor comes. That was nice of you. I don't know. And the South would obviously mean, well, under, opposite, whatever, I presume. I'm going to look it up. So, yeah, left-hand is a southwest. The left come from under more than over. Yeah, I don't know if it's that technical. Don't know. However, he he's both. He's ambidextrous. So he's switches easily. It's like imagine a batsman in cricket. Yeah, when they do their switch hitting, which they've only just started doing. Well, or deciding to bat right-handed, and then two balls later, just turning to left-handed would be just as good. There are a couple of bowlers that will bowl right-handed. Yeah. And then just bowl left-handed. Yeah. They have to tell the umpire though. Yes. Obviously. Yes. So anyway, there you go. So he won. That's going to be my next question. Yeah, he won an easy unanimous decision. His opponent was that guy who was wrestling bears, I mentioned a few weeks ago. Mak Mudov. His name was. Massive rushing, huge, limited skill, very difficult to knock out. But he's a bear wrestler. It's unbelievable. That's just crazy. So yeah, he didn't, it was a bit of a punch bag. But he's still number five in the world. He still could knock him out. Of course he could. Absolutely. Heavyweight boxing. He can knock a bear out. You can knock a fury out. Anything can happen in heavyweight boxing. You just have to land in the right spot. So so the big question, the big question for all the viewers, and listeners. Yes. Was this a legitimate fight? Yes. Very much so. Okay. And well, that's nice. That's nice that they've they've brought it back to two real fights. What the idea of the fight has been for ten flaming years now, and this was supposed to be the last big effort to make this happen. Yes. Is for Fury to fight Anthony Joshua. Okay. Now, look, Joshua hasn't won a big fight in a long time. However, there's still this Brit versus Brit thing. Two massive Englishmen, and they are both English. I was about to ask. So they do it, so beat you to the punch. Oh. Oh. I am furious. Oh, even better. God. And anyway, so AJ, Anthony Joshua was watching the fight, ringside. And when somebody like that does that, you get the one who won the fight calling them out. Oh, he's done his whole microphone, blah, blah. And he did. Two. I'm coming to get you, Anthony. That's right. And AJ just sat there doing nothing, which wasn't part of the script. Yep. So when we're still, every boxing fan is still going, is it gonna happen? And because AJ should have just gone, yeah, let's get it on. Because that's why he was there. You would have thought, yeah, that's what normally happens. So anyway, that's it. There we go. But now I hand it all over to you, Martin. All right, well we're on. We've got some funny stuff, we've got some easy stuff. I'm gonna start with A-League. So A-League is now very close to the uh to the end of its season. Uh they've just about cemented their finals. Yeah, because unlike the EPL, we want more money. Yeah. So uh we make sure that we have more finals going on. So top top top four. Newcastle. Newcastle has been number one for a long time, most of the season, considering they were pretty trashy last year. Yeah, that's gonna have to be. Uh yeah, they're going great guns. They had a draw. Auckland, sitting second by three points, had a draw. This is because they drew with Adelaide. Right. Now Auckland have been top two the whole season. Yeah. Now we've got Sydney with a win that has jumped up into third. United, Adelaide fourth. Cool. So going well. And then your two Melbourne's, which are a bit like your Manchester's. Yeah, okay. Melbourne victory and Melbourne City. Are they within striking distance or oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sydney FC 37 points. Adelaide United 37. Melbourne victory 36. Melbourne City 35. Okay. So, and we've got. How many more matches have we got? How many teams are participating in this A-League? Twelve. Okay. So, sorry. One one round to go. Okay, so then do you have the top eight? Uh no, top six. Top six playing. Top six. So we have elimination finals. Yeah. Then semifinals, then grand finals. So your top two have a week off. Um, and the uh three and six play and four and five play. There you go. Losers go out, winners go on and play one and two, and that's the semifinals, and then the winners of those two play the grand final. Right. Where's any idea of the grand finals? Uh it'll be of the two teams that make the grand final, the team that finishes the highest on the ladder before the finals will get the home final. Yeah. Okay. So whoever that team is, they will get the benefit because they finished higher. The way it should be. Makes perfect sense. It should get more coverage, shouldn't it? It should get more exposure as a sport. In the in Australia. They're up against it. They will never. Um, it doesn't matter what grassroots is, it doesn't matter what happens in in uh in Australia. They're the fifth, fourth football, fifth, maybe fourth, yeah, AFL, NRL union, yeah, then soccer. Yeah, yeah. So they're always gonna be fourth level. Yeah. Um, they're never gonna be more than that, which is also the problem with that is when you're good, yeah, you don't play here. Sure, they go. And so the best players all leave the A-League and go overseas, play better competitions, yeah, um, you know, and then come back and play for the soccer roos and be curious out.

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No, sorry, keep going with the A-League. I've got a question on the Socceros for you in a sec. So actually, I'll fire it at you now. What do you know what group they're in for the World Cup? If you don't, it doesn't matter. Oh, it got that got drawn.

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Yeah, the World Cup got drawn. Uh yeah, no, we're not in a great group. Are you with the USA? Yes. I thought so. Yeah. Couldn't remember it. Yeah, and we've got a European. Who have we got from Don't know. Yeah, look at look at I'll I'll go through the the AFL while you do that. What what's super I mean, are there any, I mean, look, I mean, in the days of uh Kuhl and Viduco and people like that, you know, Schwarzer and Oh, you look didn't have any great players anymore. I was listening to a little conversation about this in relation to the Matildas, and the comment was most people in Australia could name more women's soccer players for Australia now than they could the men. Yeah. And there isn't the Kule, the Kale, the Viduca, the Aloisi, the Schwartzes, the all those big names. Yeah. Uh, Lecky, all those names that played when we were playing. Really well in the World Cup finals. Yeah. They're all gone. And now probably Matt Ryan, as the keeper, is the most well known, well known player. Is that because, and I for fear of sounding the opposite of misogynist? Yes. Well hang on, he might be misogynist. I don't really know. Um is it because the Matildas get more exposure promoting their players constantly on advertising, which I see regularly. Yes, that's a big part. Yeah. Than the men. I haven't seen any male Australian players promoting their players. But there's also one reason why that happens. Gone. Because we're in Australia. We love winners. Right. And the women have won the Asian Cup. I see. The women are higher ranked than the men in world soccer. Okay. The reality is they perform better against their opponents. Yeah. And when you win, you are marketable. Yeah, and your star player plays for Chelsea. Yes. Yeah, as well. So you've got Turkey, USA, Paraguay. There's nothing particularly easy in there. No, no, no. No. And USA shouldn't be that difficult, but it's in the USA. They're the home team. And it's the first game when we play them. So it's that game where they're going, this is our World Cup. We're excited. So yeah, the one time you don't want to play them. I'd be happy with a draw there if I was Australia. I'd be happy with three draws. Yeah. Then what happens? Oh, goals. Yeah. You silly boy. All right, go on. Jump it, gather round. Gather round. Everybody comes to the sporting capital of the world. Lindok. Gather round. The Barossa Valley. What are they gathering? I don't know. Together? Oh, it's so nice. I don't know if it's an indigenous thing or not, to be honest. There's no indigenous celebration, so I'm not. I thought it was linked to that, but uh I don't honestly know. But anyway, uh Adelaide did exactly what Adelaide should for Gather Round. Right. And what do they do? Turned on four, no, five days of bloody atrocious weather. Ah, right. Yeah. And raining buckets. But shouldn't all football be played in that? We were discussing this privately the other day. Yeah, yes, no winter sport. It is, it changes the game uh dramatically. Yeah. And that's well and good. And that's, you know, that brings a different element to the game. Yeah, yeah. Which is great. There's nothing wrong with playing a bit of that. Yeah. For sure. Takes it out of you, though. Well, it takes it out of your legs and your your recovery's harder. So skills as well, though. Different skills. Different skills. Handling. Yeah. But there's a lot more fumbling. There's a lot less clean handling. So you don't try. Right. You instead of trying to take possession, you might hit it along the ground or punch it. That's sort of what we're getting at. Yes. Because then you you have to have guys who are good at that. Yes. To be adaptable to different things. And then there's handfuls of players that are in the in re in wet, in rain so heavy that when they take the filters off the screen, you can barely see the players on the ground. Yeah. And they still handle the ball like it's dry weather. Yeah, well. So yeah, there's always a handful of those. Do they practice? Collingwood didn't have any of those, unfortunately, for them. Well, they train in all conditions. So every time they every time they go out in a training session and it's wet, they are then training for wet weather football. I'm only asking from a Gold Coast perspective and a Brisbane perspective. Yep. We don't get those sorts of horrible. It's wet. They get it all three seasons. Yeah, that's right. Whereas in summer you don't get any rain in Melbourne or Adelaide. Up here, they they practice for it. They just don't, they're not sure about the shiver thing up here. They don't shiver very much when it rains. Are they considered to be a bit soft here then in comparison? Like, for example, if it was soccer in England, that if you can't handle the northern cold weather, then you're southern fairy, you know. A little bit. Yeah. But then the opposite is teams come here and can't handle the humidity and the slipperiness with the sweat on the ball. And yeah. Yeah. So anyway, what the big takeouts of gather round, the most successful gather round number four. Adelaide beat Carlton. So we are back on the winners' list. Yeah. So that is good for Adelaide. And you know the score. If Adelaide wins, what's the next most important thing? Go on. Port Adelaide? Lose. Yeah, and did they? Yeah, yes, they did. Of course they did. And we cheers to that. You're laughing. Because we always cheers a Port Adelaide loss with our impartial, impartial commentary. Otherwise, it was a really interesting weekend. Sydney did a number on the Gold Coast, which was a bit unexpected. Were they playing in Sydney? No, that was all in Adelaide. Gather Round. Gather round, sorry. Gather round. They played at the parade. That won't mean anything to anybody that's not from Adelaide, but don't worry about beautiful ground. They pissed on that parade. They pissed on the Gold Coast parade. What was the something awful? Oh, 100 and uh yeah, 1 something to 60? Yeah. Yeah, it was a pretty fair flogging, to be honest. Okay. Considering Gold Coast were uh before this, we're uh sitting there going, not many people are gonna beat us. So in your opinion, then, when that happens 100 to 68. Yeah, right. Okay, that's a that's a hammering. When that happens, when it's unexpected like that, and such a wide margin of difference in the in the score, is it because the team that did so well got their absolute strategy and played to a game plan? Is that really or are they just playing two things for this in particular, so the Gold Coast won't care? Yeah, yes, Sydney nailed it perfectly and Gold Coast didn't, uh-huh, but also they played at the parade, which is a very different shaped ground. Oh, it's a local ground that's been improved for Gather Round in Adelaide.

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Yeah.

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So it's a longer, narrower game, yeah, ground. Yeah. So the Gold Coast would just go, oh yeah, we didn't get it right on the type of ground we will never play on again. So who cares? Uh it's just one game. Right. So they won't be overly stressed about that. Okay. Radio. Yeah. So not really anything to do with strategy, yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Some of the stuff Sydney did was very, very good. Okay. But it was more about Sydney doing what Sydney wanted to do, yeah, rather than Sydney doing something special to stop the Gold Coast. Gold Coast, yeah. Okay, I understand. So the a big game, Hawks and the Bulldogs. Okay, yeah, go on. Yeah, I'll just flick through one of the bigger games, Hawks and Bulldogs. Hawks smashed them 40 points. Doesn't surprise me. Uh dogs got a few more big injuries, so they're struggling. Uh-huh. The big talk. Well, we have to talk about the worst game so far this season. Collingwood versus Fremantle. Oh, calling it. Now, Fremantle won it. Come on. Okay, let me look at this. Adelaide Carlton, 114 to 86. Essendon beat Melbourne out of nowhere, 113 to 68. Sydney, 100, Suns 68. 104 to 64 for the Hawks and the Dogs. 131 GWS, 75, Richmond. Go on. Collingwood, 39. Uh-huh. From Angel beat him with 45. Yeah. Like it was just whatever that game was, it was terrible for everyone. It just didn't work as a football game. Yeah. It was a bloody disgrace watching it. Can I just ask again? Yes. For the listeners as well. Yes. Can a low-scoring AFL game still be a good game? It's a good question.

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Okay.

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It's a great question. No. Really? No, it's total shite. Okay. Because the only reason it's low scoring is because you're buggering things up too often. Okay, so AFL has to be high scoring. 70, 80 at least. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Okay. If you're if you're winning, if your two scores are both under 50, basically everyone's ballsed up almost everything. Can you get two teams literally canceling each other out though? Like snuffing them out? Yes, but they'll still tend to score around 70 to 80 points. All right. Okay, fair enough. All in all, though, Gather Round was another big success. Yeah. So that's the main thing. Um, and I think Adelaide will secure it for another five years off that, which is awesome. So wonderful for you. Yeah, big there's a big, big good round. Keep talking about Adelaide forever. It's always there. Adelaide is in everybody's hearts. Jesus. And she now, NRL, very quickly. Yeah. I'll just finish this off. We had a thing that we never thought we'd see this year. Panthers lost. Yeah. So Penrith finally lost one. Yeah. And again, it was it was just one of those weird games where it didn't work. Yeah. So, but West Tigers, holy crap, last last year. Yeah. Unbelievable. And the year before, and the year before, and the year before. Yeah. Um, uh, second. Yeah. And they took on Newcastle, who were second, and beat them. Yeah. So they're four and one. So they are flying. Oh, it's good. Warriors beat the bollocks out of Melbourne Storm. Uh-huh. Absolutely beat them up. So they're sitting third. Cowboys did one of their little North Queensland Cowboys. Let's play the Broncos in Brisbane and beat them in the last minute with a last minute try. Right. Literally to go in front. So gotta love that. No one likes the Broncos. How did the Tight ones go? Ah, now they play Parramatta. Let me call this up. Let me call this up. Because just a bit of a lazy day out. Yeah. 52 to 10, they won. The Titans. In Parramatta. Oh my god. No. Are you saying that right? I am, mate, mate, mate. There you go. Look at that. Yeah, incredible. That is on. Wow. Now we know Parramatta. Yes. Well, we know Parramatta can be a bit of a dog or an ear. One of the two. One of the best. This one, this one was a dog. Yeah, right. Yeah. This one they barely even made it out. Thank God. But again, as a Dragons fan, St. George, can't talk too much because they got hammered as well. Yeah, yeah, no, we got done and we're now 0th from 6th. So we haven't even got a win. We're more like wolves.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We are hanging out for a bye where we get given two points. That's about what we've got. That's brilliant. Uh okay, last bit to round up, just on the quick roundup. We have got super rugby. Yeah. Because we have not jumped on this. You read my mind. Of course I read your mind. It's easy. How about that? Yeah. I was only talking to some of the people. It's not the super rugby we know. Yeah. It's uh fourteens from New Zealand. Yeah. It's four teens from Australia. Uh-huh. It's two teams from Fiji. Right, okay. And maybe I've counted wrong. That's not 14. No, no, there's only 11. Uh hang on. Force, Waratars, Reds, Brumbies. That's four. Hurricanes, Chiefs, Blues. Quota system to me. Oh, Crusaders, Highlanders. New Zealander got five. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah, no, there's my mass. So the New Zealander got five. Australia got four. And Fiji, the crazy Fijians, they got two. So, and already their worst teams almost as good as Western Force. Right. And Western Force are the uh, because we don't have the Rebels anymore. Melbourne Rebels folded. Yeah. So Western Force are the guys that picked up Zach Lomax. Yeah. From the NRL. Yep. They're sitting second to last. So Hurricane. Any idea what position he's playing? Either be on the wing or fullback. I would expect wing. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hurricanes, Chiefs, Blues, one, two, three, all from New Zealand. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Then Brumbies, Reds from Australia. Yeah. Crusaders round out the top six. Yeah. It's a good competition. Again, they need to get more exposure going with it. Yeah. To get more interest in rugby union. Yep. Absolutely. No, I think it's brilliant. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, we're moving on. How much time have we got? 24? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're cruising. What have you got? Have you got a crack? Ah. Do I have a crack? All right. Well then. Well, it's a past hitting the crack today. I don't have both. And an incredible weird moment in spoil. I was watching this live. I was only 19. June the 22nd, 1986. June 22nd, 1987. The Mexico World Soccer Cup. Mexico City. Yeah. Ah the backdrop. Elevation. Well, that's right. England playing Argentina. Don't cry for me. Ah, well, hang on. What stage of the tournament? The quarterfinals. Oh, well, then England lost. Hang on a second. Oh no, of course they did. When do they we were nil-nil? Oh, it's a good start. Isn't that what you start with? In the 56th minute. So for 56 minutes you did nothing. And piss off. And Argentina had the ball in midfield. They pass it around a little bit. Lobbed up a high ball at the middle. Yeah. And that little prick. That cheating little bastard. What's his name? Jumped up. Maradona. Fucking Madonna. With the header of the century. Jumped up at the same time as our goalie, Peter Shilton. And he punched a flaming ball with his hand into the net. He headed it, didn't he? Yeah. Well, according to the ref. Yeah, according to the ref, yes. Not even according to Maradona afterwards, because he called it the head of the century. Hand of God, you know what it was. And but wouldn't that mean that he didn't use his head if he said hand of God? Yeah. And no one cared? No, I'm not sure. It's good to be Maradona. I know. It shouldn't have been not allowed. I mean, no, I mean, even after the match. Well, yes. Today, of course. They would review it like they did uh Morocco and Senegal. Yeah, yeah. And eight weeks later, hand the quarter, the quarter final to England. Hey, look, I mean, it was really deadlocked. It was a deadlocked game, and no, neither team was really gonna look at them gonna score. So it took it so it takes. Pulled out of Thierry Henry. He just got a little fist on it. Well, that's yeah, exactly. Yeah, and Suarez did the same thing as well. He called it hand of God two. They're all dodgy cheats. So anyway. But I remember it live, you know, and anyway. But but to the little wanker's credit, about three minutes later, he did go on to score one of the greatest ever goals. Oh, that was his little swish switch, swish. He went and fast about four players. Yep. Maybe five. But is this because the heart of England? Now, actually, help me out. England, Great Britain on the world stage, which one is it? England. Okay. Okay, so you could do it yourself. Yeah. Uh was England's heart broken. No. No. Of the hand of God, and therefore they lowered their heads? No. Not at all. Okay. I think it was it affected him differently. He obviously thought this is my day. Oh, he's just on. And just it it was genius, honestly. Is that is that where he's in that tube? Oh, for sure. Yeah, where he's in that mental tube and he can't see anything other than exactly what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. And what he's doing is an incredible goal. Yeah. So there you go. So they hang on a second. They then went on to win the whole competition. Right. Beating what was then West Germany. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, of course, 86. That's right. Yes, the Germanies were still separate. Uh-huh. Exactly. Before the wall went down. Gorbachev break down that. No, knock down that wall. Exactly right. Pink Floyd. I don't think it's the same thing. Another brick in the wall. Yes, I don't think that had anything to do with Berlin. You are absolutely spot on. Yes. Because I think that was about 1975. Yes. Yes. And I'm pretty sure that was uh I'm pretty sure that was an indictment on the uh American political and educational system, I think it was. Yes, that's right. But uh uh uh so so John, can you for our viewers listeners, this will be viewers. Oh, good. Don't you correct me? Thank you very much for your incorrection. Let me continue. I'll give you that. Uh can you find the footage of both? Yeah. Maradona's bollocks hand of God cheating moment versus Maradona's brilliance from the same game. I can. Excellent. And we'll throw that up on all the socials to uh to have a look at. Absolutely. Okay, with pleasure. Do you have something? Do I have something? Because if you don't, I can move on. I have heaps. Go. Um, I have so I I actually have something close to my heart, which is athletics. Oh, good. And we didn't actually we we did a little bit of it, but I'm gonna go to uh the Australian Nationals held in Sydney over the last week or so. Are you gouting? So Yeah, yeah. You are all right, but there's more than that. Yeah, of course. There's more than that. So um there's uh two Jessica Hull stories. Yeah, we all love Jessica Hull, everyone does. Yeah, so she's crowned herself 5k champion again. Okay, um, and in the 1500 got flawed, knocked flat on her face in the in the final uh final hundred metres. Um interesting one, she actually said that that's after the race. She said that that's racing and that she got it wrong. Okay. So she allowed the rail too much width on the rail. Yeah. And uh, I think it was Hollingworth, I think, came up and tried to push through. There probably wasn't quite enough room. So hang on a second. Hollingworth tried to go through on the inside. On the inside. Yeah, yeah. So uh uh Hull is running out on the almost on the line of lane one. Yeah. And then she moved back to close that gap. Which she's entitled to do. Yes, but Hollingworth was already there. Uh and so Hollingworth clipped the back of her heel down. She went. Now it got investigated, it was taken off, Claudia.

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And one thing that Hull said, she said, I made the mistake. I needed to close that gap earlier. Yeah. So to her credit, was it a slow time? And that but yeah, it was, and that was another thing she said. She said, it was such a slow race that these things go wrong. I know. Whereas if you put your foot down earlier, you've got to strung everyone out. Yeah. So she probably didn't have a great race and it ended up in something pretty unfortunate. Right. But I'm going to go to something. Look, this is really hard for me. This is like finding out that you can you can soften garlic in the microwave when you're cooking. Yes. When you put it in there for 10 seconds, then you've got to start using the microwave. Yes. Which is just an awful concept for cooking. Right. Um, uh Lockie, Lockie Kennedy, I'm going to talk about sprinting. Okay. And we all know my thoughts on sprinting. And for those that don't, it's not a real sport. It's your standard line, isn't it? That's my standard line. If you if if the moment it starts to hurt, you're at the finish line. Yeah. Well, there's no tactics in sprinting, is there? Let's face it. 200, maybe 100. Oh, I don't know. 200 there there can be. You think 100 there isn't, and yet you watch people sprint next to someone in the first 80 meters and then pull away from them. But if you go, well, the Olympics. Generally, everyone's just gone flat out. Yeah. So Lockie Kennedy, the man that smashed Gout Gout last year. Yep. When everybody said gout-gout can't be beaten except by bloke. So, and I mean like a man. Gelt Gout's still a junior. Lockie Kennedy, first man in history, Australian, to run a sub legal 10-second hundred in Australia. Pretty bloody good. 996. That's awesome. 993 is Patrick Johnson's national record. Yeah. But that had a fair bit of assistance. 30 years ago at least. Oh, yeah. Well, he was 2000 Olympics for Surfington. There you go. So, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, at least 25 plus years. So Lockhees there. He is the best we've seen for a long time. Um, but then we went to the 200, and that's where Gout Gout did everything. So Mr. Gout Gout has gone and run a 196-7 200. That is first of all, he's under 20, he's only 19. Yeah. Secondly, that's a new Australian record. Yeah. And obviously a P B for him, if that's the case. He is the thing, and this is important for him because everybody's made these comparisons with Usain Bob. Yes. So Gout Gout now holds the world under 2200 record. Yeah. Because he's now gone faster than bolt. Usain Bolt did before Usain Bolt turned 20. Yeah. Now that is pretty solid running. Yeah. Yep. So let's hope he just keeps developing. Well, he's just got to get stronger and get better racing because there are some tactics over 200, especially with the bend. Exactly. And he's got to stay, he's got to manage his workloads and stay injury free. Yeah. Well, that's it's because it's so explosive that once you start to get injuries, you can do them anytime because it's such an explosive sport. Talking about the bend. And you're right, you're a million percent correct. Thank you. Not making any jokes. Oh, I appreciate the bend. No, I thought you were talking about it. There was a guy, he was Scottish actually, uh, in the Moscow Olympics, Alan Wells, he won the gold. Yes. In the 100. 1980. And the weird thing was he was favourite for the 200. And the guy called Pietro Meneer, Italian. Well known. He was very on the on the world sprinting stage. Well known, the Italian. And do you know what he was really known for? Did he go forwards or backwards? I'm not sure. It was the bend. He was the best bent 200 meters best runner. Yep. Perhaps I don't know about ever, but up until that moment for sure. And anyway, he went on and won't. And that's where you use these guys in relays. Yeah, yeah. Four by one hundred relay. You put your best bends on your 200s on your 100 bend. Yes. Because it's a different way to sprint. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So lots of other stuff. We'll cover off more um more of those results as they finalise. Yeah. But I'll do that next week. Awesome. Yeah. All right. Well, let's let's skip on. Actually, I'll do this now. How long have we got? 10? Yeah. All right. So two important things to cover. Okay, well, I'll do this one real quick because this is a quick one. Uh it's a quick E. And I think Brendan Folder might have thought the same thing. Okay. Bouncing off the helmet. Oh. And when you use the word verboler and helmet in the same sentence, I have concerns. Well, look, we're back onto the bingle. We're circulating back. And when Michael Clark was engaged to Lara and she threw her dirty ring down the toilet. She did. She got a bit cranky. Yes. Thankfully, no one examined her dirty ring, as far as we know. Well, not you've got to clean her off, can't you? We didn't. And there was no footage. That's the good old days. I mean, today, can you imagine? A much simpler day. It'd be all over the internet. Anyway. So longing for the simpler days. Absolutely. Lucky her. So anyway, he actually thought that it was funny to send out nude photos, funnily enough, from the old instamatic days of her in the shower. Had the old Polaroid. Yeah. Silly. I know. Silly boy. But what this was all going on. I know. He went out with it before Clark, but released the photos. Photos when they were seeing each other. Ah. When they were engaged. I know a dog act. Hang on a second. Well, he's stolen your name. You've actually used your own nickname to describe him. Yes. A dog act. Well, not him. Yeah. Not him. Yeah, he was an AFL player? Yeah. Yeah. Well, who did he play for? Uh Carlton, then Brisbane. To be fair. Good player. Really good forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, very good player. She sued him and took him to court. Oh, I didn't realise that. Yes. And how'd she go with that? Well, I don't know. But did she stand up in the ball blood on for next week? Did she stand up in court, look at the judge, and go, where the bloody hell are you? Very good. Tourism Australia. I'm very clever. We could do an ad. Your turn. Okay, okay. I've got a little, it's a mini, mini rant. I will cheers again. Cheers. I'll cheers again to the loss of Port Adelaide versus St Kilda. Yeah. But then there was a few little issues for Port, and they've got uh their their prime midfielder who looks like they're gonna leave, he could be leaving the club for next year. Oh, okay. So Mr. Slippery Zach Butters. Okay. So uh uh he he may or may not have said that the umpire could be getting paid for making bad decisions. Oh uh now Zach maintains that he didn't. Yeah. And he said something completely different. Right. And the umpire said, No, you didn't. You asked me how much I'm getting paid, and you you suggested my integrity wasn't there, and that's a big problem. Is it proven? Okay, is that you know written and all that, or is it one wording extra? Uh yeah, no, well, well, okay, so here's a little bit of a rant for you. Yeah. The umpires are mic'd up, a bit like you and me right now. Indeed. You can hear everything they say all game long. It's recorded. Yeah. At that very moment, something happened. Right. And it didn't get recorded. Um, but it started recording again straight after. Yeah. So straight away, it's been erased. Straight away, you gotta go, oh, that's probably not good. Yeah, yeah, uh. But then we came into a problem. Gone. Straight after the game, Zach Butters said he said something, but it wasn't what the umpire thought. And then in the media the next day, he changed it to something else. And then in the tribunal tonight, he changed it again to something else. And the umpire said, no, no, you said this all the way through. Yeah, all right. So he got found guilty. Oh. Even without the recording. Now, he got found guilty and as usual got a $1,500 fine. Yeah. So I just want to bring this up. Zach Butters. You knobhead. Knob of butter. Knob of butter. There you go. First of all, keep your mouth shut. Yes. Secondly, Zach Butters, 25, 144 games of AFL footy. Yeah. Officially is the first man who passed $50,000 worth of fines. Wow. $51,625 worth of fines. He obviously doesn't give a shit. In 144 games. Yeah, right. What more on base? Is that a record? Yeah, yeah. The next closest to $50,000 is Toby Green. Yeah. The captain of the GWS, who is a loose cannon on the field. Yeah, yeah. And he's about three or four grand behind him. Oh, okay. It's a bit of a competition game. It was to see who hit 50 first. And it was Zach. Unbelievable. So when you look at that, you kind of go, he probably said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So silly, silly boy. Yeah. But let me go now. I want to circle back. I want to circle back. Yes. Circle back, my good man. We're going to hit Eki thump. Oh. Good. Yes. Now, who knows the finer skill set of Eki Thump? Wasn't it something to do with the Goodies? It certainly was. It might have been. It had to do with something very specific. So tell me about Eki Thump, Martin. Eki Thump from the Goodies was a martial arts. Right. That they perfected. Lots of hand movements. Yes. And feet movements. Right. With a black pudding in your hand. Oh. Now. For the listeners. Exactly. Do we know what black pudding is? We're about to learn, my good man. Oh, you do it. So I want to discuss tonight the wacky sport of black pudding throwing. Fantastic. And there is not only a world championship, but it was even held last year. There is a raining current black pudding throwing. And I thought when I started this, it was just throw it. Yeah. A bit like tuna tossing. Yeah, yeah. How far? No, there's a lot more skill. So just to clarify, there's no racist connotation here. No. Oh no, no. Well, maybe, but this is where you're going to come in. Okay. With your Britishness. Indeed. Englishness. So let's go through black pudding throwing. Good question to start with, as you did. What is a black pudding? Right, a black pudding is a dish made of pig's blood. Correct. Onion. Yeah. And oats. Yummy. Now, if you could think of three things. But dried. Well, yes. Yeah. Of course. Otherwise. Can I just say? Yes. I've had it and I really like it. Sorry. I love it. It's great. Okay, it's like a massive sausage. Yes. In the sausage skin. Yes. So you slice it. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So black pudding. It's delicious. Ah, the competition, and this is where I got wrong. It is not about distance. Oh. It is a contest of accuracy. Oh, wow. But the targets are great. Yeah. So you have to throw your pudding in an underhand motion. It's a steady on. And you are lobbying it towards Yorkshire puddings. Oh. Now, why would you be lobbing it towards Yorkshire puddings that are specifically on top of a 7.6 meter-high platform? Or Plymouth. If you would like. Can I attempt to answer it? You may. Because I don't know the answer. Right. What have we got with your historical knowledge, my good man John? So in Yorkshire, last man standing on this one. Yeah, well, it's a it's a sort of a guess, but there's a partial education. In the industrial north of England, they had a lot of oveny sets kind of things. We're going back to the Cornish. Well, in a way, pastry days. Sort of. Okay. I reckon we're going 18th century. Oh, you're a bit late. Oh, really? You're a bit late. It's earlier. 16th? Bit late? Far out. Let me let me to give you a historical moment and see if you can go further. Go on. It uh it originates back in the time of the Wars of the Roses. Oh, it's Lancashire versus Yorkshire. Bingo! So that's my man. That's massive. Yes? Okay. So legend has it that the houses of Lancaster and York ran out of ammunition, ammunition during a battle and resorted to throwing food at each other. The Lancashire guys threw black puddings. Yeah. And the Yorkshire guys threw Yorkshire puddings. Because that's all they had left. Right. Now. There you go. So, how does that transform into a sport, you might say? Well, what we do now is on the, and I'll say the word again because I really like it, the 7.6 meter plinth or platform sits the Yorkshire puddings. Right. Yes. And you have to throw your knock them off. Your yep, yep, you have to throw your your black pudding. Yeah. Sorry, Yorkshire pies on top. Okay. And the the black puddings have to try and knock them off. And you get three three attempts. Oh, wow. Well there you go. This is where you might ask, where is this held? Apparently in the same pub every year. In Yorkshire or Lancashire, does it say? Lancashire, which means that Lancashire probably won the War of the Roses. Would that be correct? Yeah, argumentatively so, but you know. So it's held in the Oaks Pub, Bridge Street at Ramsbottom. Ah, Ramsbottom. Ramsbottom. Ramsbottom, isn't it? So the current 2025 Raiding World Champion is a fellow by the name of Jed Flanagan, who's a local competitor who took home the title. Participants attempt to knock 12 giant Yorkshire puddings off the 7.6 meter high plinth using three underarm throws of their black pudding. So it is, it says originated from the 15th century rivalry.

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To be more specific, it was 1455 for the Wars of the Roses. Wow. Black pudding, and I've got some clips which I will post up. There you go. So we can have a look. Can I just add something to all of that? You may. What have you got? It isn't my intelligence, it's just my ability to read. Yes, what? Henry Tudor, in other words, Henry the Seventh, King of England, won the War of the Roses by defeating King Richard III. At the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485, establishing the Tudor dynasty. Wow. By marrying by marrying Elizabeth of York, Henry united the rival houses of Lancaster and York, effectively ending the 30-year-old civil war. So Yorkshire won. 55 to 85. No, that's what I mean. So it started in 1455. 30-year war. Yeah. He ends it. Yeah. 1484. Well that's why I said there was conjecture review right now. There you go. So there you go. There you go. So black pudding throwing. How about that? Well, look, let's see. If you ever wanted to take up a sport, that's it. Let's just quickly round off. We can't go through this without talking about the massive sporting event of the weekend. Of course, you're probably going to say it's not a sport. The Masters Golf in all the haster. Oh no, we can call that a pass on a sport, Pastor. So the question last week was can Rory win back-to-back Masters? Well, he's he's what we now know about Rory is in about 20 years he's gonna drive his car into the woods. Well, this is true. However, so the the question was last week whether he could do it or not. Now, all the interviews beforehand were suggesting that he's such in a relaxed state of mind. It's just like going for a walk in the park, playing with his mates, and all the rest of it. So he's achieved everything, got the monkey off his back last year. Yep. And yeah, let's go ahead. Well, the first two days he obliterated and it was miles ahead. And it was so interesting because only last week we're talking about the great Greg Norman falling apart. Yes. Well, from unwinnable, sorry, unlosable position. Yes, exactly right. Yeah. If anybody can fuck this up, it's you. It's you. So oh no, oh no, Rory on the third day did that. Oh, it's better than the fourth. Well, it is because you got a day. Well, yeah. Yeah. He was one behind. He lost about seven shots, actually. He did a he did a Norman. He did it. And he only did it on the third day. And then the last day, he fired up again. Yeah, he did. He kicks out and wins. Yay! Rory. Well done, Rory. I was about to say, do you adopt him? Of course you do. It's great bloody Britain again. He's British. He's not. Yes, he is. You just steal other people from countries and call them Brits. Let's finish with The Choker or the Joker. Last week we did a famous one. We've just been talking about the Greg the Choker. That's right. And this is going to be a regular feature for a few weeks. So uh Wimbledon final 1993, Steffi Graf versus Jana Novotna. And Graf was the favourite. She was world number one. However, Novotna was a very good grass court player. She was a servant vollier, which is really important for Grass, especially then because it was so much faster. It didn't suit the baseliners. So Nirvana wins the first set 7-6. She was, I remember it. She was all she thought she'd won. So she then loses the second set 6-1. Ouch. Yeah. However, she regrouped. Right. Goes 4-1 up in the third set. Within, and she was kicking an ass. She was kicking an ass. Steffi was playing crap, and Votler was playing brilliantly. Yep. And then suddenly, and it this happens in tennis. Happens in every sport, I suppose, but she got a bit close to the trophy. Yeah, but it's weird. And tennis, she noticed it more because you stop and start for games. Each game. And when you're serving, you should have the advantage. But under pressure, that makes sense. It wobbles. It's not a good serve. The arm actually caves in. And it turns to jelly. I've seen it even at club level. And Novotna? And that's exactly what happened to her. She jellied up. She jellied up and she became the choker. Started off with a double fault and a number of double faults after that, and she was starting crying on the court before Graf had even caught up. Oh no, you can't do that. But she did. And then there's no crying in sports. Yeah, well, there was. And so Roger cried. And we don't respect him for that. So anyway, Graf wins. Now then that's all done and dusty. Yep. And then there was more crying with the Duchess of Kent. Yeah, yep. Duchess of Kent. Yes. Do you know a lot of people think I'm from Kent? I can hear them say it when they walk past. Anyway, so that was That's a fair description. The description of you said to Jana. You will come back and win. Well, Navotna then went on to lose the next six matches to Steffi Graf in straight sets. However, five years later. Did she get her Wimbledon title? Five years later, she did. So it's Well, that's uh that's a lovely end to the story, apart from that she died last year. So that would be crap. Well, that's a hell of a way to leave the podcast. You can't end it there. Well, I think that's all we've got time for, Mark. Well, I'm not gonna end it there. I refuse to. Go on then. What have you got? So a little crazy thing for V8 racing. I won't even talk about the results. Okay. I'll just say they're doing their little um uh um New Zealand holiday where they go over for two weekends and racing two different places over there. Yeah, had the big cyclone go through, yeah, had to cancel their third race of the weekend. Yeah, right. So they did two races on the Saturday, couldn't turn up on the Sunday because the cyclone hit. Oh no. So now they've got to do four races the next weekend. Right. So uh, but next time we speak, we'll cover off the up-to-date results of that. We will indeed. Uh probably easy to say Brad Kastecki, he's leading, he's winning, he's having a great season. Good. However, that's it for me. I hope you've enjoyed this episode. Uh but for now, it's good night from me. And it's good night from him. Good night.