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Heather and Zia Season 1 Episode 4

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Did you love that for us?

Whats the deal with how one movie, one song, or one odd tradition can flip your whole season from hectic to happy? We invited Eliza to sit down with us and pull on those threads—sharing the holiday rituals we cling to, the ones we outgrow, and the playful twists that keep December fresh. From Love Hard and The Santa Clause to the eternal Die Hard question, we build a watch-list that blends nostalgia with discovery and admit to the classics we still haven’t seen.

We volley between Justin Bieber’s Mistletoe and the power riffs of Trans-Siberian Orchestra, while Italian records sneak in as unofficial “holiday music” because they scored our childhood kitchens. We tour neighborhood decor wars—blow-up villages, synchronized lights, and a skeleton house that changes costumes across the seasons—and laugh about the fine line between delightful and overwhelming. 

Then we get practical. Lists rescue our sanity, reusable gift bags save time, and wrapping hacks add joy without the 2 a.m. meltdown. We map out a lasagna Christmas dinner and a friendly “meatball off,” explain why Christmas morning at home lets kids actually enjoy their gifts, and share our secret-ruled games for adult children that turn small moments into family lore. We even look ahead to travel dreams—Bermuda, anyone?—and how to keep the heart of the holidays beating across multiple homes.

If you’re juggling traditions, schedules, and big feelings, press play and come plan with us. Subscribe, leave a review to help more listeners find the show, and tell us: what tradition anchors your season?

Meet Eliza And The Show’s Vibe

Heather

Hey, how's everybody doing? It's Heather and Zia.

Zia

How are you?

Heather

Welcome to another episode of Do We Love That For You?

Zia

Do we? Do we? I don't know.

Heather

I want to introduce. We have a special guest with us today.

Zia

We do.

Heather

It's my daughter, Eliza. Hi. It's very nice to be here. Thanks for having me. Yay! She wasn't very fond of this. She thinks that we're a little weird for doing a podcast. I never said that. Didn't want to do it.

Zia

I never said it.

Eliza

I never said it. Those were she did never use those words, but I did not. Yeah. I'm happy that you guys are doing this. This seems you guys seem to really enjoy it. We do. Which comes across to the audience. I'll be the audience, and you're the audience. Yeah. I you can tell that you guys are having fun doing this. So we are. In support. Yay!

Heather

Yay! So this is actually episode four. So we started this like always on a spur of the moment. We've talked about that a couple of times.

Zia

Absolutely.

Heather

We explained out to everybody in episode one that it was us talking, and all of a sudden it was like, we should do a podcast. So here we are.

Eliza

Absolutely.

Heather

As we usually very spur of the moment. Exactly.

Eliza

Very spur of the moment.

Heather

Only way to do it. Um, and I remember when I told Eliza this, she goes, Okay. But then she listened to it and actually sent it to her college roommate. And what did your college roommate say?

Holiday Movie Night: Hits And Misses

Eliza

She said, We're shut the heck up. This is hilarious. And a bunch of like, why is it about New Jersey? That's great. She said it was really funny though.

Zia

That's great.

Heather

So Eliza came out to New Hampshire last night.

Zia

Um she's actually trying to go away.

Heather

I'm sorry.

Zia

Safe trip.

Eliza

Driving here? Yeah, I was driving in uh Vermont, and those people can't drive. So it was it was a little rough, but made it here in one piece, so that's worth it.

Zia

That's great.

Eliza

Other than that, it was a safe trip.

Zia

Yeah good.

Eliza

Um so we watched one of our favorite Christmas movies last night. It's a newer one, it's called uh Love Hard with Nina DeBrov and Jimmy O. I have it's really cute. Um he catfishes her, and then she goes to visit him for Christmas, and then it's Jimmy O. And it's not who she thought he was.

Zia

Oh my god. All right, I might have to take that, yeah.

Heather

Yeah, it's funny. It's funny. So we watched that. So, what are some of the other Christmas movies we frequent?

Eliza

The Santa Claus movies. Of course.

Heather

Those are those are a classic, a fan favorite, but not episode but not the third one, just one and two. The third one with Jack Frost. Have you ever seen that one?

Zia

Yes, I and I love him as an actor, but I did not like that part that he didn't. No, no, it wasn't it's not worth it.

Eliza

But the first one and the second one are really good.

Zia

So those are good ones. Yeah, well, our traditional movie since the kids were small was The Christmas Story. And I I literally just did it because um when Margaret was little, she just wouldn't sit still and it barely bugged my mom. So I was like, we're gonna watch this movie, I'm gonna make some snacks, we're gonna watch the popcorn being made, you know, the old school spins around, and you could watch the popcorn kernels popping. So we did that, and cheese and crackers put everything out. She sat there through the whole movie. We were quiet before bed. I was like, calm down, time to calm down. Awesome. So, yeah, so we we started it back then, and just to not really get my mom mad, just make the kids just sit there and yeah, so we always do we always do a Christmas story on Christmas Eve.

Heather

That's on Christmas Eve.

Zia

Yep, that's when we watch it. Christmas Eve.

Heather

Yep, yep. And I think back in the day, one of the channels on TV would do it as a like um marathon.

Zia

Oh, on a loop, yeah, absolutely.

Heather

I don't remember what channel it was. We don't have cable, but I I remember back in the day it did.

Zia

Yeah, and we also picked Elf when Elf came out. That was like one of our favorites.

Eliza

Yes. It's not one of my tops, but it's it's up there, it's good.

Zia

Yeah, yeah. He's so annoying, and we just annoy each other with the lines for a while.

Heather

So like, I know I love him, I love him. But here is the ultimate Christmas movie question. There's two movies that are always up to debate. Say anything, Christmas movie, not Christmas movie.

Zia

Oh, do you know Say Anything has a lot of meaning in this family, Heather? You may not know this.

Eliza

Really?

Zia

Yes, say anything. My husband, when we first met, said that movie is our movie. And I'm like, what? So I had never seen it. I watched it and I'm like, I never gave you a pen. I never gave you a pen. What the heck is that? What the heck? I'm like, how is this us? I've never given you a pen. And he's like, oh, the that's not it.

Eliza

And I was like, that's what I took out of the movie.

Zia

Yep. And he I actually bought it for him for Christmas one year because I was like so sweet. I don't know why, but still didn't give you a pen.

Heather

But I gave you this movie now.

Zia

Give you the movie with the pen. I don't know.

Heather

God's so sweet.

Eliza

All right, Eliza. Say say anything Christmas. I haven't actually seen say anything before, so we might have to change that while you're out here. Okay.

Heather

All right. Yeah, watch everybody.

Zia

Eliza will get the pen part. That's what she'll get out of that.

Heather

People now understand them. Yes, yes. Now, when she goes to give her boyfriend a pen next year, we'll know why.

Zia

We'll know why.

Heather

All right, and then of course, the ultimate question.

Zia

Oh god.

Heather

Die Hard.

Zia

Oh, Die Hard is definitely a Christmas movie.

Heather

See, Rich says it's a or my husband says it's a Christmas. Definitely a Christmas movie.

Die Hard Debate And Watchlist Homework

Zia

Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

Eliza

I haven't seen that one either, so we've got homework this giant rock. Um, and those movies never make it in.

Zia

Yeah, you you have homework now, see? We're giving her homework.

Eliza

Noted, okay. I'll add them to the list. Yep.

Zia

That's awesome. Let me know what you get for the takeaway on Say Anything though.

Eliza

I will. I will. Besides the pen.

Zia

Besides the pen.

Eliza

I mean, I've seen the scene where he like has the the note and he like drops it and like I've seen that part of it.

Zia

Right. But that's okay. All right. Yeah, yeah.

Eliza

Look at her.

Zia

See, it's like you let me know, Liza. You let me know.

Eliza

Okay, I will, I will, I will.

Heather

So, but Christmas movies always also means TV shows and Christmas music. You guys have any favorites of those either?

Zia

Uh, Christmas music, I tend to pull out all of my grandfather's Italian music at this time. Um, because he would always pull out like um his uh Lu Bante uh records and just to start singing those kinds of songs and you know, just Dominic the Donkey and stuff, and all of a sudden, you know, we start going, and then I got Papino Zuregil, and you know, what did Washington say when he crossed the Delaware? You know, so it just it just rolls on and it's just Italian music. It's really not Christmas music, but it is to me. Um sometimes that's what the good part is. Yeah, and I what it means. Some of my kids are like, you know, where where is Popino Zudigil? Like, where's the song? Because it's Christmas, you know.

Eliza

I like Mistletoe by Justin Buber. Okay. That's a good one. It's a modern classic, you know, just snuck it into everyone's hearts.

Heather

That is true though.

Zia

Mistletoe is a good song from him. I have not ever heard that, so now I have homework.

Eliza

If you like Jay Beebs, you're gonna like it.

Zia

I do not.

Heather

Okay, so listen to it anyway because it's actually a cute song.

Zia

All right. Well, I do listen to it. Uh I will listen to it because Eliza said.

Heather

Alright, there's your homework now. You got another homework too. Yeah.

Zia

Yeah, I have homework too. This is good. See that?

Heather

Bring on special guests now when we get homework.

Zia

That's right.

Heather

So I guess I guess my favorite Christmas song, honestly, is the I Want a Hippopotamus.

Zia

Oh, I love it.

Heather

Because I always wanted, like, I always picked a thing, and that's what I wanted as a kid for Christmas. It's like I'm nice. And and so it's like wanting a hippopotamus like reminds me of when I was a kid and I wanted that toy.

Zia

Got your mind set.

Heather

Right. And I didn't need 40 or 50 gifts. I was happy with one. Yeah. As long as it was this. So I think that's my favorite fun Christmas song. Yeah.

Zia

I feel like you have not changed with that.

Heather

No, I feel like I haven't either.

Zia

Yeah. We have um we have good expectations. Simple. Keep it simple.

Eliza

What about Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas? Dear God No. Annoying or so annoying.

Heather

So I'm okay with it as my first Christmas song that I hear.

Zia

Dear God, no.

Heather

And then I'm tired of it by the 80th or 90th time, and it's still November. But I'm good with it the first time. I'm like, yes, it's Christmas. That like brings out Christmas for me.

Christmas Music: From Bieber To TSO

Zia

If I hear her voice in any form, I'm just lost. Cannot with the Mariah Carey ever since she was young. I just have never been a fan. Um I don't know why.

Heather

Merry Christmas song. Well, yeah, I mean, she's our age, but that high note man.

Zia

Uh-uh. Nope, can't take it.

Heather

Can't do it.

Zia

No, I'm heavy metal, so I don't know. Really?

Heather

I never knew that about you.

Zia

Oh Trans-Siberian Orchestra, take it and look all the way. Yeah.

Eliza

Yes.

Zia

When that came out, I was like, where were these guys when I was little? What happened? Like, who didn't think about this when I was little?

Heather

Yeah. No, but I think what if you want to go down that road is the people who make their yards, those Christmas lights that go with the music.

Zia

We have a few around here.

Heather

You do in New York. I haven't found any here in New Hampshire yet, but my my brother-in-law, um, down he's in he's down closer toward New York City from you. Okay. Not quite in the city, but um, he's down that way and he does it with his family. He does it to their house. Yeah. And um, it's it's amazing. I love going down and watching it. It's it's just so fun.

Zia

Well, we have two houses that I feel like are at a little battle. Um, I don't know if they are, but I I love it because I get to see the good parts of the little battle going back and forth. Yeah, and one right now is my favorite because he has the Grinch. So he has little Max sitting next to him. So and they do those big blow-up things, you know, those oh, is it blow-up yards?

Heather

Is they all blow-ups?

Zia

Oh my god, it and they do it so nice though. So yeah, good. So I'm benefiting from the battle, whatever's happening between the two houses.

Heather

Oh, they so they're in your neighborhood, yeah.

Zia

So they're in your neighborhood, totally benefiting from this, whatever it is. Yep.

Eliza

Are they playing music with it or is it just the decorations?

Zia

No, I haven't heard any music. Um, I feel like it's just been decorations. Um, they do it for Halloween. Yep.

Heather

All right, oh wow. Oh, they do it for all the holidays.

Zia

All the holidays, yep. Yeah, we very nicely too.

Heather

We have an incredibly gaudy house like two or three miles away that does all of the holidays as well. And it's so much, they don't have music or anything, it's just so full of decorations. Uh I took a picture um driving by at their Halloween display, and they have so much stuff in their yard that like uh you can't see anything. It's it's horrible.

Zia

They can appreciate it.

Heather

Yeah, it's become a sensory overload. It it really is. Like like I hate driving past it because it's just so much. I don't know if they do all the holidays, but we have a skeleton house a couple of miles away that does all the seasons with skeletons. Oh, that's awesome. Like for the start of school, they had desks in their yard and they had little skeletons sitting at the desk, and then that big giant skeleton standing there with like a uh sheet next to him on a tree, like he was at a chalkboard or whiteboard or something. So that's great. And now they're all sitting around a tree like in a like a campfire type setting for Christmas.

Zia

That is adorable.

Heather

Or holidays, I guess would be the term. Yeah. As your son pointed out, we need to specify holiday, not Christmas.

Zia

Holiday. Yeah, I'm saying Merry Christmas. Me too. What about you?

Eliza

Um, I I work in corporate America, so I stick with happy holidays.

Zia

Yeah. Yeah.

Eliza

But if I know the person and I know they celebrate Christmas, I'll say Merry Christmas.

Zia

I always say have a great holiday season because that protects me from Thanksgiving, you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Because it is a season.

Heather

So talking about all this Christmas stuff makes me think about how do you prep for the season?

Epic Yard Decorations And Skeleton Scenes

Zia

Oh God, do I prep for the season? I don't know that I prep for the season. I sometimes I feel like I wing it, and then when it's crunch time, it's like 80 lists are being made. And that then, like my you know, like all of my little OCDs come out, and I'm like, oh my god, just get organized. Let's do it, you know. Um, I don't know that I have like a routine. Um, the tree just went up last week because uh some friends about it. Some friends, uh Heather, uh like, you better get that tree up, girl. Get that tree up. You gotta get that up.

Heather

Do you have grandkids? You gotta get that tree up.

Zia

Yep. So I do have to say, my one granddaughter did ask. I said, Oh, I love how daddy put up your tree, it looks so beautiful. And she said, You have tree? And I was like, I do, it's in a bag right now, but yes, I do have grandma does have a tree. I do.

Eliza

Grandma has a tree, I do have to, yeah.

Zia

I had she pushed me, and so did Heather to put the tree up. So amazing. It is up, yeah. It's a little um mixed, uh, because my grandmother was Jewish and my grandmother was my grandfather was Catholic, so I always wanted a blue and silver Christmas tree. Oh yeah, and white, like a white Christmas tree, which is weird for me because my favorite color is black. Um, but yeah, I have I do have a blue, silver, white Christmas tree. Yeah, you do.

Eliza

That's awesome.

Zia

Yep. Maybe I'll post oh yeah, go, yeah, we should put our trees up.

Heather

Maybe I'll post our trees. I'll I'll get our trees posted because props to our and I'm gonna have to do it like I always say producer. He was amazing this week, and he gave us or put us on all the social medias. Absolutely. So we have Twitter X, whatever that is.

Zia

Yep.

Heather

Um you like that? Sure, yeah. She's laughing over here. Um, he put us on Instagram and he put us on Facebook, so I've been putting some teasers out on that.

Zia

Yeah, I like the Twitter X because you know why? The X for Gen X. We are Gen X.

Heather

Oh, you just did the 6-7 hands. I saw it.

Zia

Oh, I did the I did pointees though.

Heather

Oh, with your fingers? Okay, I just saw the verb.

Zia

Yeah, I got enough of that at elementary school.

Eliza

I don't need I can't imagine.

Zia

You know, it does throw them off though. I had seen a a reel that said if they do six seven, you have to go like sideways and go eight nine. And they're like, What just happened? It throws them so off that they just walk away.

Eliza

Noted.

Zia

Yes, do it, do it, noted. Yep. Or you just start singing uh uh what what is the number? You know, eight, six, seven, five, three, oh, nine. Yeah, you gotta put that in there, and they're like, What are you talking about?

Heather

I did see one of your teachers at your school um when I I'm friends with shopping. Oh, no, was um, she did a it was, I guess, your 67th day of school.

Zia

Yes, yes, we celebrated the 67th day of school. Yeah, if you can't beat them, join them.

Heather

You know what? I saw her do that and I I actually laughed. I was like, okay, I'm kind of glad I'm not at the school this year.

Zia

Yes, yes. We decided, you know, a few of the classes decided that just let's make it annoying, you know. If uh they love it, let's do it. Um, we just had our rock rock setup, you know? Yeah, we just had our rock, paper, scissors challenge. Um, and you know, my boss uh is a lot like me, so like we get the crowd going and we know they're kids, you're there to have fun. So he's like, everybody quiet down. This is a serious moment for the last round, and then he's like, I need complete science, silence. And all of a sudden he goes, Six, seven, and that kids are all like, Yeah, so it's like those fun things, you know. We love to be there, you know. You got it's Christmas, they are on the edge. We have two more days. What is happening?

Heather

Two more days. You have to go back to work Monday and Tuesday to go back to work Monday and Tuesday.

Zia

A lot of the school dress districts are done to you know, yesterday. Yeah, we actually go back Monday and Tuesday. I can't imagine what it's going to be like, but we shall see. We shall see. We shall see.

Heather

That's I don't even put a movie on. Just put a movie on for the game. Yeah, no, there is gonna be some teachers in the school that are going to actually try to teach. They're gonna do work.

Zia

Yep, they're gonna try to teach. Yep, and and you know, if they're back on certain things, you gotta do it. But right, their minds are not here, they are in another. Dimension. Another dimension. Yep. I can see them walking down the halls and they're just like Christmas lights in there.

Heather

Oh, excuse me. Holiday lights in there.

Zia

Nah sorry, Christmas lights. I'm Italian. Come on, I'm Jersey and I'm Italian. Come on.

Heather

Oh my gosh. Come on. Come on.

Merry Christmas Or Happy Holidays

Zia

Can't get any more Christmassy than that.

Heather

Yeah. So back to the lists. I do.

Zia

Did you do yours?

Heather

I did. Well, no, that's a fib. We talked about doing lists yesterday, and I said I was gonna make mine, and I didn't. But I had a lot of things. I made enough for both of us. Yes. I but I already have the one list you had that you made last night, I had already made, which is the Christmas present verse people list. I did that because um normally my wrapper is sitting next to me, my my present wrapper.

Zia

Do you like it?

Eliza

I don't, yeah, I don't mind it. I like it. You get to get a little creative with with some of the wrappings. I try to make them look like things they aren't sometimes. Okay. Or add like the streamers and just have some fun with it. Yeah. I'll buy like bells from the dollar store and I'll take some jingle bells onto them. Yeah, my daughter does. Explain your wrapping.

Heather

Explain your wrapping.

Zia

My wrapping, I a few years back, I bought these reusable bags, and I wrote everybody's name on them when I was giving them to them. Well, they give them all back, and then I use them the next year. So I make piles of this is Zach's pile, this is Mikael's pile, this is Leon's pile, this is Star's pile, and I just you know, Alex is, and then everybody gets their bags back, and then they know that the red ones are this person's and that's cool. Yeah, and then I just stuff some tissue paper in the top and I'm done. Easy peasy. Yeah, yeah. Cause I mean, they they appreciate the packaging, of course. Um, my daughter star always beautiful packaging. Um, but like I'm like, there's so many people that I have to rap for. I just you know, I'm up until like four or five o'clock in the morning if I start late, just right rapping along. Yep.

Eliza

It gets tiring after a while. I do it in little spurts. Like every I'll do a couple here, a couple there.

Heather

Yeah. So but this year I'm the main rapper. Yeah. Because, you know, with not working and rich working and all that, so I've been getting all the presents and wrapping them. So I have to admit I miss my rapper. But but I'm having fun with it because you know, I do the same thing. I don't do the whole buying a bell to put on it. I just make prepos and ribbons and streamers and yeah, I do that kind of stuff. But yeah, um but yeah, I'm I'm doing all the main rapping. So I had already had that list done because I made that um to go start doing that. I started rapping about a week ago. Okay. Um and then we did uh we already bought Christmas dinner makings already. We're gonna do a big lasagna.

Zia

Okay.

Surviving School Days Before Break

Heather

And then um Eliza and Rich might have a meatball off. A meatball off. Love it. Um so we have to get I'll have to get the stuff for the meatballs. But so I have the Christmas dinner list is already done. So the only list I need to make is the what Heather has to do to get ready for Christmas. Okay. But we're doing Christmas weird this year because Eliza has her life in New York. So she's here with us, and we're gonna do half of Christmas on Christmas Eve, and then the rest of Christmas on Christmas morning, and then she's gonna go back home. All right. Um, and then we're coming out to New York on Saturday to do it with my parents, your grandparents. Yeah. And um, we're gonna hopefully get to catch up with um Rich's oldest and her family and um no second oldest, oldest girl. We're gonna hope uh we can catch up with her on Saturday after Christmas. So very nice. I have to make those lists still. Um, you know, and I gotta have the dog sitter list, and so I have a list of the lists I need to make.

Zia

Absolutely.

Heather

Always haven't made those lists yet.

Zia

Yeah. So I like how we keep saying lists. It's all the lists. All the lists.

Heather

Are you guys writing these lists down? Are they making sure they're on your phone?

Zia

No, pen and paper.

Heather

See my pad right here? That's where my lists go on that. I got a little notebook right here.

Zia

Eliza will love my notebook. Ready? Here's my notebook.

Eliza

That is so funny.

Zia

And you guys, you guys cannot see it, but maybe we can take a picture of it. But I do have my terrifier clown, and he is my little note keeper.

Heather

Yep, you'll have to get a picture of that.

Zia

Yep.

Heather

And um, I use just uh a long thin post-it book. Um and as a matter of fact, I have mess I have notes on here. This is our um something we'll talk about, so you should write this down in our future podcast one. Yes. On the back of my note is my our trip to uh Iceland.

Zia

Oh, yes, trips, yes, yes, we'll have to drop the phone.

Heather

No, and on the other side, oh, it was a game we played the other day. Okay. So the results of the game score keeping. Yeah. But yeah, so we do we do keep a lot of lists, so that's like our little mini idiosyncrasy OCD kind of a thing. Yeah, you keep your lists on your phone, right?

Eliza

Yeah, or in your brain. Keep it on yeah, I try I do it in my brain, I keep it on my phone, or I write it on my refrigerator. Oh, yeah. You can just write, you can use like exponent fridges.

Heather

Well, you have one of those. You have the dry erase board on your fridge, yeah.

Zia

Yeah, we have a dry erase board on our refrigerator um just in case somebody goes in the refrigerator, opens it, and goes, Nope, we don't have it. Write it down.

Heather

Yes, yep, yes, like orange juice.

Zia

I like orange juice. Orange juice is important.

Heather

Oh god. You weren't you weren't in the room yet, but Zia's husband was upset that they were out of orange juice.

Zia

Yes, he loves his orange juice. It's kind of like living with Tony Soprano, you know? Where's my orange juice? Where's the orange juice? Right. Right. Too funny. Yeah, we have um when uh so the family's coming over for Christmas Eve. And I kind of when the kids were little, I decided if they had kids or whatever, one day I was gonna do just Christmas Eve with them. Um, because I always felt like we were always traveling with the kids on Christmas Eve or Christmas, and when it was Christmas, it was so hard because we'd leave early in the morning to go either to the city or somewhere else. Like sometimes we travel up here if we were in Virginia, and they never got to play with their Christmas presents. Yeah. Or I would say you can't take that because you'll lose it and don't play with it in the car, and you can't bring it to share, and you know, and they're sitting there like I got a Nintendo cube, you know, the the cube, and I can't play it. What are you talking about?

Lists, Trees, And Social Media Plans

Heather

You know, you gotta put it down and we'll be back for three hours or five.

Zia

Get in the car, get in the car. You can play with it tomorrow. You have you know, school break, but I felt so bad, so I was like, nope, everybody stays home on Christmas, and you have the kids play with whatever they have to play with, yeah. And I got you Christmas Eve, that's fine. Yep.

Heather

Yeah, and it's awesome. And I pretty much did that with you for the most part until you got a little older, and then we started going to grandma's house. Yeah, um, but she was older at that point, not as much toys and stuff, but yeah, um, no, I I completely agree with that. That if you want to see your grandkids, you go to that. Yes, yes, like unfortunately we're super far away now, but yeah, that's actually what I want to maintain.

Zia

Yeah, we actually do games for our adult kids. So, and we like theme it sometimes. So last year, or not last year, the year before we did um, oh, what was it? Um what the heck was his name? Oh my god, I'm drawing a blanket. Anyway, we did like a whole theme. Uh, one time we had a contract for them to sign, and it was in like six different languages, and they were sitting there like, we'll just sign it. We'll just sign it. We don't even know what you're saying anymore.

Eliza

Oh no. There's a contract like about what kind of gifts they would get each other for.

Zia

Nope, we just made them sign a contract that they were playing this game and it was gonna be done fairly and da-da-da. And yeah, there was like, yeah, and we posted it on the wall, and we and it was funny because there's like little things that they do that they don't know that we have in our mind that they have to do, right? So if they do it, they don't know what it is, but if I spot them doing it, they actually get a prize. Oh we laid out all these colored markers for the contract, and whoever signed it in the color we picked got a prize. Oh who won? Um, I believe well, Zach and Michaela came away with a lot of stuff that year. So I don't know why, but they actually keep all the little like one year we gave them little headbands to choose from. Um, whoever too chose the certain headband got a prize. Um pins. We did um Pac-Man pins one year, and we only called them by the pin that they had, so it was inky blanky, you know. Yes!

Heather

Oh, I love that.

Zia

That and then the next year we actually incorporated that because they had to remember what their name was the year before. Okay, okay. Some of them did, some of them didn't. But Zach keeps everything.

Heather

So he knew his name, of course.

Zia

He yes, and him and Michaela always come and they're like, with everything we've given them over the years, they put it on, and they walk in the door and they're like, it could there could be this could be a thing. They may want to see all the things that we have, so they come prepared.

Heather

We need to get their permission and we need to post a picture of this.

Zia

Yes, because it's like game on, we're winning, let's go. Yep. And uh we used to do um like bottles of liquor, and then they would sit behind the bottle of liquor. And one of the things was who's gonna break into the bottle of liquor while they're sitting there waiting for rules to be read.

Heather

And yeah, break and win, or did the not break and win?

Zia

The break and one. Yep. Nice, so like little little things like that, or if they do something while we're playing the game. Yep. Just they'll get something. They're like, What did I do? You don't need to know.

Heather

That is one of the greatest traditions ever. Yep.

Zia

So now we're gonna try to do it for the little ones. I've I got like two games I'm gonna do for the little ones so they can win some stuff. Yep.

Heather

They're still a little young to remember it from year to year, but Zach is their father, so they will remember it from year to year.

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Zia

You know, I have to tell you about that. We when I was watching my granddaughter, I well, both of them, but uh one of them is gonna be three. She's got the little memory in the discussion now, and she asked me for pumpkin pie and um apples, because I was gonna see her that weekend. I walked through that door, she's taking off my jacket. Okay, you stay, you stay, take the jacket off. And she was like, uh, you got apples? And I'm like, This was Thursday to Saturday. Wow. For three, not even three yet, right? Thursday to Saturday. Do you have apples? Yes, I got the apples. Uh, you got the pumpkin pie? Uh, yeah, okay, got it. So it was like that memory. I mean, I do have that memory of an elephant too, so it's a little, you know, that's crazy, but I that's awesome. Just hope that sticks, because that that was that's a hard, that's a long time for three-year-old. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So uh, so yeah, so um just uh these little mines, you know, gotta melt mind meld the mines.

Heather

Yeah, that's crazy. So well, I want to thank Eliza for coming out to visit and joining us on the Saturday morning with our coffees. I don't have a coffee. I'm behind the ball.

Eliza

She is behind the ball on the coffee.

Zia

Yeah, that's okay.

Eliza

Thank you for having me on the show, guys. Absolutely. And like see the magic.

Zia

Ooh. Thank you for being our first guest, though.

Heather

Yeah, I feel so special. Oh so you're you get gifts from Charlie when you babysit, which is Charlie and your dog. We have a picture of Charlie on your on our Facebook. So you're our first guest.

Eliza

Wow. Yeah, I feel so special. Thank you.

Zia

Yep, and Charlie puts notes around the house when Eliza washes her. And it's like this is Eliza's room, and this is Eliza's.

Eliza

Exactly. No, it's the sweetest thing, actually.

Heather

It's really cute.

Zia

Yeah.

Heather

So, and on that note, we've had a couple other people ask to join us.

Zia

We did, yes. I've had my son-in-law as excited. He would like to join us. Yeah. Wow.

Heather

Yeah. Okay, very cool. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll get him on here in the next week or two. Probably not next week, which um we're gonna have to probably record on Friday because Saturday I'm going to New York. Yeah. So we'll be traveling at the time when we're recording. So we might have to do a Friday night recording. Yeah. Which means instead of getting our coffee, should we get a glass of wine?

Zia

Oh, I'm not a wine, maybe whiskey.

Heather

You do whiskey, I'll do rum.

Zia

I'm a Jack Daniels girl, sorry.

Heather

I'm a captain. I'm a captain girl, so but um but yeah, I think we're gonna have to do a Friday recording because I'll be traveling Saturday. We'll still have it posted Saturday.

Zia

Right.

Heather

But I think I think we're gonna have to do a Friday evening recording.

Zia

Yep, and I'll have to shout out. Sorry, gotta send a shout out. It is my son-in-law's birthday today, so happy birthday to Leon.

Heather

Happy birthday, Leon. And that's the son-in-law who wants to be on the we could have had him on today for some day.

Zia

He's actually traveling today with my daughter. So celebrating. Yeah, celebrating. Yep, they're going on their little ventures to uh celebrate the birthday.

Heather

Like this one sitting here.

Zia

Oh, yes, you and Star go on so many adventures. I wish I was like you. I just can't get the mom had asked if I wanted, you know, hey, go on our trip, you know. No, mm-mm, no. I thought she could come with us to Iceland. And she's she noped out. Yeah, no. I went to Egypt in two in 2010, and that was my goal to get to Egypt. Yep. And yes, now Michael keeps asking me, where would you like to go? And I'm like, home.

Heather

Well, we have to still do, we still have to do our couple's trip to Bermuda.

Zia

We do. I have to get my mom's ashes to Bermuda. Yes, I do.

Heather

You know what? Put that on the list for the for another conversation.

Zia

Yep, yep.

Heather

Because we we have talked about that a bunch of times that we got to get to Bermuda and we're working on that. Yeah, well, we just need to work it out.

Eliza

I mean, that's what we're trying to figure out to get there.

Zia

And we're trying to figure out boat or plane.

Eliza

I guess.

Zia

You know, yeah, right. So that kind of thing. Yep. But thank you for being here for our little coffee session.

Heather

I love this for us. Fourth episode. I do love this for us.

Zia

Yes, we do love this for us.

Heather

Do we?

Zia

We do. We do.

Heather

All right. So huh? I said amazing. Yeah. So instead of coffee next week, we'll have to have a little bit of something a little stronger. Celebratory drink. That's right. But otherwise, it was great talking to everyone, and we'll see everyone on our next episode.

Zia

Absolutely. Have a good day, guys.

Heather

All right. Love everyone.

Zia

Love yes.