Do We Love That For You?

Do We Love .... Surprises?

• Heather and Zia • Season 1 • Episode 8

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Surprise visits, new life, and a four-minute commute that somehow takes five: this one has range in the best way. We kick off with a stealth birthday drop-in that revives a family Starbucks ritual and turns an ordinary Monday into a memory. Then the news lands: a nephew named Charles arrives on the same day, tying names, legacy, and timing into one perfect thread. We talk about why those links matter, and how small traditions—cake pops, nicknames, the right coffee order—carry meaning forward.

That care extends to what we share online. We draw a firm line on posting baby photos without consent, swapping notes on how creators can stay open without oversharing. It leads to a funny twist: friends and coworkers who only just discovered the show. We finally make the invite explicit—come listen if you want—and unpack the awkwardness of self-promotion in a world that rewards shouting. The vibe is warm, honest, and a little stubborn in the best way.

Then the Great Sandwich Debate explodes. Is a hot dog a sandwich? What about tacos, pop tarts, or pierogi? With the Sandwich Alignment Chart as our map, we spar between purist and chaotic definitions, and even argue about the right bread for an Italian sub. Food culture spills into memory as we swap pizza favorites and the joy of a family pizzeria where folding boxes felt like belonging. From there, we vent about driving: brake-happy neighbors, regional quirks from Jersey to New Hampshire, and the uneasy truth that maybe we’re just getting older. Gas, hybrid, or electric gets a fair shake, too, grounded in range anxiety and the need to feel in control behind the wheel.

We wrap with a look at red carpet fashion after J Lo’s viral dress, calling out the odd double standard that celebrates nudity on screen but clutches pearls over sheer gowns. Throughout, it’s laughter, candor, and practical boundaries—life’s small moments stitched to bigger questions. If you love honest friendship, food debates, and real-life texture, you’re home. Tap play, subscribe, and tell us: where do you land on the sandwich spectrum?

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Zia:

I'm this is just I'm proud of us. This is crazy.

Heather:

How did we make it to episode eight? We they did. We started this on a whim. But today's episode is called Do We Love Surprises. And I feel like that title has something to do with our first topic. It does.

Zia:

It does. Fill me in, fill me in. My birthday was Monday. Um hit the big five two. Um so and it's funny because people say to me, Oh, oh, it's the big two-o. And I'm like, I would never want to go back. Never want to go back. Oh my gosh. I'm shaking my head no sound. I'm nobody can see that where I came from. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Very proud of uh that I made it this long. Seriously. Anyway, yeah, so um my my friend did not lie to me. She kind of like just disc didn't say the truth. Omitted didn't say the words. Words. Omitted the truth. I didn't omit the truth. I omitted words. Yeah. Words. Yes. So um, as you all know, um, I got to see Heather on Friday. We recorded together. I said that was my you know, birthday kind of time. Yeah. And so she's like, well, I know I have to return something, you know, to school, but I forgot it. So I'm going to just give it to Eliza. I didn't say give it to Eliza. Blah blah blah.

Heather:

I said I'll let Eliza have it. Oh, what'd you say? I said I'll let Eliza seat so I'll leave it at I'll leave it with Eliza or something.

Zia:

I don't remember now. Oh my gosh. Leave it with something. Yeah. So I was like, okay. I was like, all right, well, just have a safe trip back, you know, da-da-da. Okay. So then I go to work on my birthday, which is Monday, which was Monday, and I'm standing at my desk and I look, I look like out the window, and I into the vestibule area. And yeah, and a little friend was waving to me, and I was like, Well, she's usually not without feather, so how did she get this? And um, yeah, so I got an extra birthday surprise. You didn't we got to do our cake tops again, and I brought my coffee and we included Izzy in it in your celebration this year. We we did include Izzy, yeah. She was super excited with us.

Heather:

She was. She when I told her that my plan was I was gonna leave, and then I looked at her and said, but I'm really not. I'm going in Monday morning to surprise Ms. Z. And she goes, Am I coming? And I said, Is there any question? And she was like, No. So she's like, Are we gonna stop at Starbucks? Because she and I have a tradition of whenever I would bring her in, we would stop at Starbucks and I would let her get her super fruit-fruit drink. Um, diabetic or not, I still let her get her fruit fruit drink because that is who I am. I just made sure she accommodated for it. Then I looked at her and I said, Well, exactly. I and I said to her, I said, Well, I said, You can we can go to Starbucks. I said, But do you want to be part of our Starbucks birthday tradition? And she stood in her living room and jumped up and down a couple of times and said, Yes. And I was like, then we'll get everything. I said, You can be a cake popper with us. Yeah.

Zia:

So yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so that was a very, very so I do love surprises when it's done by the per people I love. Exactly.

Heather:

Speaking of surprises, I had another surprise when I got home from New York. Um, I found out that my brother-in-law, Rich's brother, Mike, and his husband, Vince, had a baby. Their gestational carrier um delivered. Guess what day they delivered on? Your birthday. It's a me, baby? Yes, it's a you baby. His name is Charles. He's gonna go by Charlie. I love it. He was one day I'm gonna rule the world. You are. He was um I think eight pounds, nine pounds. Oh no, I wrote it down and now I lost it. Sorry.

Zia:

I'm failing. And and can I just say Chef's kiss to the to the name. Love the name. Charlie, yeah.

Heather:

So I can't wait to meet him. We're gonna do, we're gonna do um Rich's side of the family's Christmas. As you guys all know, we did Christmas with my side this past weekend. We're gonna do his side. Um, we were waiting for baby Charlie. So now that Charlie has joined us, um, we are going to have family Christmas at some point. I'm assuming we're waiting on Mike and Vince to officially coordinate it. Um, they live way down in Baltimore, so they're gonna come up. We always meet in New York with um our listener, Nicole, Nikki, my sister-in-law. We're gonna meet at her house. That's typically where we all meet up. So we'll get to do Christmas again. We still have one more Christmas coming.

Zia:

Very cool.

Heather:

But we get to meet Charlie.

Zia:

I'm so excited. I'm I'm so happy that a Charles was born on my birthday because that's my grandfather's name. And we all know I have little closeness to my grandfather. So that is beautiful. Yeah. So very beautiful. Congratulations.

Heather:

Thank you. I can't wait to meet him. And I will, I did reach out to Mike and I asked him if I can bring it up today. And of course, he said yes. So maybe um once we all get to meet and I get a picture holding the cutie pie, maybe I can ask him if I can share a picture of me and him. Yeah. Um so that I can show you what he show you who he is. Because, you know, I don't want to post any pictures. That's yeah, that's beyond the the line for me right now.

Zia:

But yeah, so they all seem to be doing great. Like, like my kids. Good. It's like my kids, you know, they don't post any pictures of the kids, you know, because of all that AI crap out there. Exactly. Um, so yeah, we we will block out if we have to.

Heather:

Yep, exactly. And worst case, I'll just describe him to everybody. His cute little baby fingers and toes. But yeah, so that was that.

Zia:

That's right. Yeah, so awesome.

Heather:

You had a funny story at work this week. We really do, and you actually had a funny work story, and I had a funny story, and they both kind of overlapped.

Zia:

Yes, they did, and um hit the topic that we had put down with ironically, yeah. Thinking about it. Yeah. So, you know, we're always like, who who's who's listening, who's not listening, with us inviting them, who's not, you know, who's just hooking on for to the channel just to listen to us um by their self or just by discovery of podcasts. Um so there was a meeting going on yesterday at school, and I went in and I was talking to the girls and stuff, and all of a sudden, um, let's say halfway through the day, one of the ladies had said to me, uh, you have a podcast and you didn't tell me about it. And I was like, um, yeah, I was like, How'd you find out? And she said, Well, somebody else told me that listens to you at work. And I was like, Oh my God. I was like, Yeah. And so she goes, Why wouldn't you tell me? I don't, I don't understand why you wouldn't tell me. And I was like, Well, I said, I don't push things on people. Uh, you either know me or you don't. Um, I mean, it's on my Instagram. If you're friends with me on Instagram, you should see it. Um and you know, I just don't push myself on people. You know, you know, you like me, fine. You don't, I don't care. So it's like, you find out, then go enjoy it. If not, well, it's for us, you know, it's for us. So exactly. Yeah, and then you had a funny story about that. Go ahead.

Heather:

I did. So um we were doing Christmas in Ariel. I have permission to use her name at specific reasons and topics I have to pre pre-arrange with her. So this was one of them. But she was, I was talking and I was like, Yeah, my podcast. And she was like, You have a podcast? You never mentioned it to me. And I'm like, I didn't realize I had to. I'm so sorry. So I told her all about it. Um and she laughed at me. And I was like, you know, I mean, we laughed about it, but I mean, I I didn't realize that I guess certain people want us to reach out and say, hey, listen to my podcast. Um, it it didn't occur to me that. Um, I'm I'm not a big podcaster, and the podcasts I listen to are true crime typically, and I do a couple of comedy ones. Yeah. Um, but I I find out mostly through word of mouth, like Allie would mention one or Eliza would mention one, or one of our coworkers would mention one, and that's how I would find it. But I never personally thought of saying, hey, Zia, can you listen to my podcast? I don't know. I feel like I feel like that's like pushy. I don't know.

Zia:

I don't know. Well, you and I aren't like we we do things for we start things because we want to do things. Right. Uh I think all of our things that we always did was just, hey, we have you and I have an idea and then we go at it. You know, we're like, yes, that's a great idea. Let's go there, let's do that. Um, even when you were here, you know, we were always saying, um, oh, next weekend. Yes, okay, let's do it. You know, so it was we're always, I don't want to say we're always spare the moment, but we when we get an idea, we share, and then we're we just go and do it. Right.

Heather:

We we look at the different angles and make sure that it's an idea that's feasible. And if it is, we jump on it. If it isn't, then we move on. Right. Yeah, yeah, right, yep. So officially exactly. So wait, I'm putting it out officially right now. Anybody who is my friend, associate, I don't know, what other words can we use? Neighbor, former neighbor, future neighbor. Right.

Zia:

Please listen to my podcast. Right. Yes, please listen. Yeah, please listen to our podcast people. So yeah, I feel to those details about inviting.

Heather:

No, I'm I'm that kind of person. I will invite I will I Zia's people who know Zia and people who know Zia would want you to listen. Listen for Zia.

Zia:

Yeah. That's great. People that know Zia would like you to listen. Exactly. Yes, that's very good. I like that. Can you tell who the pessimist is?

Heather:

Well, there's always, there's always, what's that saying? Have a friend that will take the bullet for you, but more than likely, that's the friend who's causing the bullet to come at you. I mean, that's an us thing. Absolutely. You would take a bullet for me in a heartbeat. And more than likely, you're the reason why we're running from a heart from a bullet. Absolutely. Well, while we're talking about Ariel, I'm gonna pull him.

Zia:

Wait, what? I said it's always good when my husband sits there and he's like, Oh, God, here we go. Yeah, here we go. Why did you have to say that to my wife? Here we go. Yeah.

Heather:

Rich frequently just grabs my arm and removes me. He physically will move me and and or he'll sit there and go, stop it, stop it, stop it. Yeah. Oh, see that? See? Yep. But while we're talking about Ariel, I have a topic Ariel wanted us to bring. And this is a debate that she truly, truly, truly loves this debate. She wants to know what is your definition of a sandwich. My definition is bread, meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato, maybe a condiment, mayonnaise, mustard, whatever, bread. Let's hear your definition, and then I'm going to bring out her fringy definition.

Zia:

Okay, so this is a good topic for today because my husband decided that he's going to be making the sandwiches today instead of buying subs. He's making subs for my little birthday get together with my family. Oh, so you can we had a debate on yeah, yeah, he we had a debate on last night what bread is acceptable in my household to make the sandwich. So he said, I'm gonna go buy French bread. And I said, What do I look like to you? Like French bread, really? He goes, Well, if you buy it, get a platter from the store, the rolls are smaller, they're skinnier, you know, because they put them on the platter. It's not like an Italian loaf. And I said, Okay, but I don't have a choice in that because that's what I'm ordering it from. I prefer my Italian bread with the meat and uh you know, if I want an Italian sandwich, it's going on Italian bread. I'm not gonna have an Italian sandwich mix on French bread, you know, or a hoagie roll. I mean I want a nice Kaiser roll or I want a nice bowl of Italian bread. Yeah. So if you want to be soft on the inside, love it.

Heather:

So if you want to join um Ariel's debate on this, you should eat it as a taco. A taco is a sandwich. Oh look on your face on our video.

Zia:

I don't know how I feel about that. I don't know about that. Yep. Hot dogs, tacos.

Heather:

I think my grandfather just turned over in his grave. Yeah. Wait a minute. You want to you want to go to the far extreme? A Pop Tart would be considered a sandwich.

Zia:

Go ahead.

Heather:

An ice cream cookie. You know, those ice cream.

Zia:

I have a lot of sandwiches in my lifetime.

Heather:

Yeah. So apparently, this sandwich alignment thing comes from a Dungeons and Dragons concept that there's different levels of good and evil. And I guess people took it into the sandwich world. So you have the people who want to be good and are good. You have the rule followers, and then you have the the chaotic ones, and and I guess the hot dog and the taco fall under the chaos. I don't know. Are nachos just like, I don't know, what is a nacho then? I I I know. What if there's cheese between two nachos? A quesadilla is a sandwich. The look on your face, I love it.

Zia:

Oh God, this is terrible.

Heather:

I love the look on your face right now. It's amazing. I wish everybody could say we need to start figuring out how we can make this a video, but I think that's our next project.

Zia:

But yeah.

Heather:

Are we having a hard time here? So I I do have on I have on my one computer screen, it's the sandwich alignment chart. And it says the structure purest as a sandwich must be classic sandwich. Two pieces of bread, baked product with toppings in between. That's what we call a sandwich. Then you have the structure neutral, which is the container must be on either side of the topping, but not necessarily separate on separate pieces. So that would be like a sub, a submarine, a hoagie, or torpedo, whatever you call them. We call them subs, a hot dog, and then they even have like the ice cream tacos, tacos that then you have the structure record. Oh god. And that can contain any food enveloped in any way by a containing food. So a pierogi could be a sandwich.

Zia:

That's terrible. That's like what do I do with my raviolis? Come on now.

Heather:

That's a sandwich. What's happening? You're eating sandwiches for dinner?

Zia:

Dare God, I can't. No. Yep. I'm I'm always on the dark side. I'm always on the dark side of things, you know. So you're in uh this is not sitting well with me. This is not sitting well with me. No. So wait.

Heather:

Oh, that means that uh uh what are those called? Um what are those called? Oh my gosh, where the you put the fruit inside like the scone, it's not a scone, but like that kind of breading. The Danish.

Zia:

So a Danish would be a sandwich. Oh dear God, you're making my head hurt now.

Heather:

By the definition of structure, can any can contain any food envelope by a food? Any food enveloped.

Zia:

So a Danish would be going well with my head. Those those hostess cupcakes with the cream in the middle. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. All right, so let's go to a new topic.

Heather:

My head hurts with that one. I know, but this, but that's but yeah, that's one of Ariel's favorite debates, is the sandwich debate. She frequently brings that up. Yeah.

Zia:

Yeah, no. Oh. Yeah. All right. That might be under the listing of, you know, separate church and state. Let's separate church, state, and sandwiches.

Heather:

Separate church, state, and sandwiches. I like that. I'll bring that up to her. Or she's should be listening now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me about your drive to work yesterday. I feel like there's a story to that.

Zia:

Oh dear God. Yeah. So, you know, I don't go very far to go to work. It's literally right around the corner from me. And uh should take me the most two minutes. We had snail on the road. And we also had breaking in front of me every two seconds. So I don't know if it's, you know, I gave the benefit of doubt because I wasn't gonna get that angry that that early. Usually it hits when I get in and I get an email. But you know, I wasn't gonna try to start the day off like that. So I'm behind this person. I pull out actually my neighbor and I left about the same time. Fine, get out to the main road. She turns, leaves me, and I'm there. Car goes in front of me, and it was like nothing was happening yesterday. No ice, no snow, no nothing. Beautiful roads to work. Slow as can be. I mean, I believe it's like a 45-mile road. Okay, and you're coming at me, right? No, we're like, we are like at 20, 25. I can I'll give her 25. Whoever it was. I'll give her she was at 25. Um, and breaking in front of me. And breaking. Was the light red second? Was the light red pulling into the school? No. No. No lights red. No lights. At that time. At that time. There was no I could have just made it in a minute. Yep. Could have made it in a minute if I was not behind this person. So my question in my head is, you know, is it a new student driver? Probably probably. Well, sure. The high school goes in right at about the time you're going in. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I'm giving the benefit of the doubt. And then the angry Zia kicked in, and I'm like, I just want to turn the damn corner. I just got to turn the corner. I want to turn, I just gotta turn and go to work. And by the time they got through the light in front of me, I had to stop at the corner and not take my turn. So that's when the angry Zia kicked in. Because now I'm like, sorry, four minutes, if not five. Yep. So do you feel like like just driving is getting worse out there? Or do you feel like it's always been this way and I'm just getting older and I'm like, I can't. I don't know. I've always been an angry driver. Like I've just always been like, dude, you got your lesson, you took the same test as me. Do it. Drive. Drive the car. You know? So it's like if I had it's, you know, like I always say that. It's like, like I always say, you know, people ask me so many questions during the day that I'm like, I say to my coworkers that in my office, I'm like, what scares me is you got dressed this morning and you drove a car in.

Heather:

Well, apparently not well.

Zia:

Apparently, not well. Not well. No. No. So yeah, five minutes, which would have taken me two minutes to get to work. Um five minutes around a corner, literally. Around literally around a corner. Yep. Wow. With stopping and snail, snail mail driving. Yep. So I don't know. Is driving getting bad? I don't know. I don't know.

Heather:

I don't know. And when I lived there, so I will say when I left you on Monday morning and I went back to Eliza's house. Yeah, I forgot that my commute to and from when I was working there, um, I forgot that that commute is four miles. Actually, it's 3.7, but I'll round it up for the fact of the story. But it's like 3.7 miles. And I forgot that on average I had to plan a 15-minute commute. But when I left you, it was already after all the schools were in, because even the later school was in. Oh, it took me 25 minutes to get to Eliza's house. So my God. Yeah, I forgot about that. But I live in New Hampshire now. Live free or die. Or should I say, drive how you want and die? Um I feel like sometimes getting on the road, I feel like I'm taking my life in my hand. Um, speed limit here is truly a suggestion. Um I was a little heavy-footed the other day and was in a 30 mile an hour zone, was going down a hill, and I think I crested about 40, and I passed a town cop, and I was doing a 40-ish passing the town cop going down a hill. Uh, and and and I never had to stop. It's like he did not pull me over, he did not nothing. So um oh my god. Wow. I I feel like Jersey people driving is its own world. That could be our a topic one day, just driving in Jersey. Right. You um but I feel like absolutely I feel like you have the mass holes because everybody knows Massachusetts is our mass hole drivers. Yep. Um, but I feel like New Hampshire is like somewhere in between New York, New Jersey, mass holes. Yep. Um, so yeah, I I think part of it is is yeah, I hate I hate to break it to you, but we're getting old. We're not dead, but we're getting old.

Zia:

I don't know. I feel like I've always been like this. I feel like I've always been like this. Yeah. Not that I'm a I'm not an aggressive driver. I am definitely not an aggressive driver, but to know common sense to move the car and what pedal to push, it'd be great. It would be great. Yep. So yeah. So you do learn that. You do learn that.

Heather:

You do. So I get to play our we're trying to come up with a new thing to announce our five-minute loves. We're also trying to come up with a catch title for it, because I don't know. We don't know if we like five-minute loves. Right. But ding ding ding or tick tock, tick tock. It's five-minute love time. Yeah. TikTok, tick tock. So we got a bunch today. So I'm gonna start with a cool one. We did. Um, being as I became a siblings, child's adult. There's a lot of different ways to say that title. So I've heard aunt, like a and t. I've heard aunt, a u and I've heard aunt, yes, like a w and t. I've heard auntie, I've heard auntie. So what are you?

Zia:

Oh my goodness. What are what are you? Well, I have nothing at this moment, but um I definitely used to be um Aunt Z. Um I tell the kids to call me Aunt Z because my name in Italian means aunt. Zia means aunt in Italian. So it's Zia and you were Aunt Aunt. So I would just tell them call yeah, so I would just tell them to say Aunt Z, and that that's what I used to go by. But I go by nothing now. I'm just gonna go. You go by nothing.

Heather:

That might be a topic to uncover one other day. Um, I go by aunt or auntie or aunt or or um, I guess it would be auntie. I guess I was aunt or auntie, or I am aunt or auntie. Um, my brother's kids call me Aunt Heather. Um Rich's Rich's nephews and well, he's got all nephews. So Rich's nephews all call me Aunt Heather. Um, so yeah, I'm an aunt. I'm an ANT. I think so. Okay.

Zia:

Um I my two aunts that live by you, um, they actually uh when they when they like wish me happy birthday or something, they're like, love your aunties, you know, it's so cute. I like it. Okay. So they're aunties.

Heather:

Okay. Yeah. So I guess there's there's a lot of different ways to get the same word out. Yeah. Yeah. So um you came up with a so that was mine five minutes. You had one. Yeah, I did.

Zia:

Yeah. So uh so if you go to choose a car, say any car you want to choose, are you going for a car with an engine or the electric car?

Heather:

I'm engine all the way. I I I don't I know this is gonna sound silly, but I don't like having to worry about where I can charge. Like I understand the the economic benefits of those to a degree, but I like that I can do five or six hundred miles in my car and then get gas. Um, yeah. So I'm gonna go with a car. I I could look into a hybrid, I guess. A hybrid I would settle for, but I'm a car. What about you?

Zia:

Yeah, I if I had to pick an I mean we have an electric car. It it is Michael's. I I don't drive the car. Um, it bugs me. I can't hear the shifting of gears. I need to hear what my car sounds like. Um, and I like to well, I like to be in control. I can't be control in control of the electric car. So the control problem is is very out there with uh, you know, I like to have control over the car and how much gas I can put in. And if I see it go halfway down, I put more gas in, and that's it. Yep.

Heather:

Oh, that should be another one for us another week. Where do you fill up your tank? Are you a gaslight or not? I could do that now because I feel like that could open up a whole can. Um so Eliza was an Instagram follower before. Now she's also on us with Facebook, but her question was I love it best pizza topping.

Zia:

Oof. Oh my goodness. So I personally have not had pizza in five years. No, you haven't. I mean I know that. Yep. But when I did, I used to love Alex and I would always put mushroom on the pizza. And um, if I got a um like everything pizza, that was like one of my favorites, is just put everything on it. Oh yeah. I really didn't like the anchovy taste with the rest of the stuff. Um, sometimes I felt like if you put the anchovies on with the onions and pepper, sometimes I get like a little metallic test taste. It gets extra salty for me. So I feel like whenever there's anchovies.

Heather:

Yeah.

Zia:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they are salty, but I always had that like layer of like metallic a little bit. I don't know. Um, but yeah, mushroom, mushrooms for Alex and I were like mushroom pizza. That was great. What about you?

Heather:

So I'm a fan of the sausage pepper onion. Um, so that's my go-to one, sausage pepper onion. Um, but I do have a funny story to mix in, and this is my brother Ian. When we were growing up, there's this phenomenal pizzeria in it's in the town of Kenville. It's on the Minehill Kenville border, and it's called Joe's Pizzeria, and it's family owned since my mom was a kid. So we've been going there forever. And they have they have like this pizza that has everything on it, like you called it. And in our house, we used to call it a garbage pizza. And it was a treat to get the garbage pizza. And I remember one time my brother Ian called to order our pizza, and he's like, Can I have a garbage pizza? And the guy was like epically offended on the on the phone. He's like, Well, we don't put garbage on pizza. And we were laughing hysterically in the house because that's obviously not what we want. But so I do love the everything, the supremes, the those things. I do really like those. Yep. Um, so Eliza, what's yours and all our other followers on Facebook and Instagram? What are what are your favorite topics?

Zia:

Comment, comment on our page. Yep. Yep, comments. Yeah, I used to um when my mom had the studio, my mom Joyce had the studio. There was a pizzeria right next door. There was like a nail salon and then pizza place, and it was called Rusty's. And actually his sister used to babysit me. And in turn, he did babysit me because I used to go over there and act like I owned the place, and he would let me. And sometimes he said he they people would be like, Is that your daughter? And I did look like his family. Um, so he was like, Yeah, yep, that's my daughter. Yep, she's mine. Um, but yeah, I'd spend the whole time there. I'd help fold the boxes, you know. It was nice. It's like I helped him. I'd like just watching him fix things, you know, the for the day and get the pizza dough out and make the pizza dough. It was just great. It was amazing. Yep. Awesome.

Heather:

All right, I'm gonna let you bring this last one. And now it's I'm gonna let you bring up our last five minute because we're running out of time. We're actually one minute over right now, but we have to cover this one because I didn't understand it. So Instagram Allie, what did she ask us?

Zia:

So Allie, yep, she asked us about J Lo's Golden Globe dress. So we actually went and looked at this because I am not a big watcher of the Golden Globes. Either. And I, you know, I had yeah, I brought up to you after I saw it. I mean, we did look at other dresses from other people in the past. Um but um I my main point to this was I mean, people get offended or don't like the dresses that look like you're half naked, but you literally see these actresses naked. So and actors fully naked. So I mean I don't understand the concept of people online talking about how this dress is gonna offend them in public when you literally watch a movie with these actresses and actress actors and actresses completely naked. So does that offend you when you're watching that? Or is it just that you can't see their whole body when they're at the Golden Globes? I mean, I don't know. Go ahead. What do you think?

Heather:

Yeah, no, well, so as soon as we looked for it, because Allie, no lie, we looked it up last night. We we did an impromptu podcast meeting and we looked this up because neither one of us knew what you were talking about. And the minute I saw her dress, what did I say, Zia? I'm like, oh, that's like Halle Berry's in, I don't know, what was it, 2000, but we looked it up, it was 2002. Halle Berry's dress in 2002. I remember that was absolutely stunning. It was nothing, it was cloth or clear cloth. Yep. And then you brought up little Kim and you know, um Kendall or yeah, Kendall Jenner or Kendall Jenner, yeah. But I mean, then you have Zoe Kravitz, Megan Fox, Beyonce. I mean, the list goes on and on, and um Jennifer Lawrence, I mean, they all do it. And I'm not offended by it. I I think I think all naked. I I I think that it's it's the way we've turned the world into. I think this is this is what people want to see. Yeah, I don't think they want to see the ball gowns of the the 80s and 90s. I I think I think this is what people want. They what who was it? Um, who was it that did the meat dress in one of her concerts? Who was that? Right. That yeah, that was Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. There you go. I mean, come on. Yep, prime rib on your boob. I mean, come on. Um I know.

Zia:

What a waste of meat. What a waste of meat.

Heather:

I mean, maybe for some people, I don't know, not me. But or me. Never mind. Anyway, on that note, I think we should wrap this one up. But wrap it up. Wrap it up.

Zia:

We're good. So yeah, thank you guys for uh yeah, thank you guys for joining us on our episode eight. Um, we are looking forward to doing our episode nine. Woo! I mean, every time we say it, I feel like woo-hoo. I know.

Heather:

And we're gonna work on a couple more changes. We're talking about hiring an editor now, right, Zia?

Zia:

Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna see if my husband will jump in and edit some things for me. Yeah, we're trying to work on something. I I need a little bit of help with the reels.

Heather:

Yeah, yeah. But I think we should talk about our coffee, Z. Let's let the outro hook us up. Absolutely. Love everybody. Absolutely.

Zia:

Bye.

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