Do We Love That For You?

Do we love ... Being Snarky

Heather and Zia Season 1 Episode 9

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Did you love that for us?

Ever wonder how a single word can flip the mood of a whole conversation? We bring Leon, our son-in-law and longtime listener, into the studio for a warm, fast-moving hangout that spans family dynamics, regional quirks, and the tiny choices that define everyday life. From Florida sunshine to New York winters, we trace the path of a marriage that found its rhythm through travel, music, and the kind of curiosity that turns “stuff” into stories.

We geek out over pens and stationery—not as a flex, but as a love letter to tools that make words feel intentional. That flows straight into a candid riff on language: what do we mean when we say “whatever” or reply with “sure”? Phones light up with the same word, yet the tone hits different. We unpack how context, care, and clarity can save a plan and spare a feeling, and why small language shifts are big relationship wins.

Storm buzz is real, too. Snowmageddon hits the forecast, and we compare New Hampshire, New York, and Texas responses while Leon pulls back the curtain on disaster restoration: frozen pipes, power dips, and the people who show up when things leak, crack, or break. In between, we hit smell-versus-taste surprises (featuring our infamous cayenne coffee), whether to skip TV intros or blast them in the car, and listener-fueled “five-minute loves”: family NFL loyalties, cauliflower as a starch stand-in, and the eternal Wawa vs Stewart’s showdown. Fresh subs and frozen coffee meet small-town ice cream and local pride—there’s room for both.

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Heather:

Hey everybody, welcome to episode nine. We are laughing because this is actually the third time we've did this opening of episode nine. I don't think we love being snarky anymore. I think we are very persistent. So we should change it to Do we love being persistent? Do we love being persistent? Oh my goodness. Anyway welcome everybody. And you guys don't know it, but Zia has somebody sitting next to her today. Who do you got?

Zia:

I have a special guest. His name is Leon.

unknown:

Hi.

Leon:

Hello, everybody. Hi there. Thank you for having me on this episode. Um, I'm a uh first time caller, long time listener, been with you guys since the beginning.

Zia:

Yeah, our one of our first fans. Yeah. Um, I love it, but he's actually related to our family. So he is my my oldest child star is her husband. Yeah.

Leon:

Yeah.

Heather:

That's awesome. I'm so glad you were able to come. We're recording on a Friday night, so we don't have our coffee. We have our no, we have our I have actually, I just have Coke, well, my Coke Zero from Chick-fil-A. Oh, I love it. Um, I had the chicken nuggets from Chick-fil-A, and I got bread. Not from Chick-fil-A. The bread is from upstairs, so I have some bread and butter and coke.

Zia:

I love that. I have just my water, and we actually just got from my little snack cart pieces of gum. So you know, we'll see. I made dinner. I made dinner, so he'll have dinner after.

Heather:

Well, yeah, you guys were doing dinner after. We did a quick dinner before because um our youngest has her competitive um gaming. She does the esports. Oh, very good. And they're having practice this evening. And um, they don't know. I'm sorry.

Leon:

That's awesome.

Heather:

Yeah, she's she loves it. They're playing. Oh my goodness, now I have to know what they're playing. Marvel Rivals.

Leon:

Oh, cool.

Heather:

She does Marvel Rivals with um New England College, is who she's playing with. And um, they have one of their practices tonight. They don't normally practice on Fridays, um, but um, they normally practice on Sundays, I think. And with the storm coming, they don't want to try to practice with the storm. So I think they're just sneaking into practice today.

Zia:

Yeah, so you know, so they want to make sure they have internet because I mean, we are in the middle of New Hampshire, you never know what we got. Yep. So um, I was talking to Leon and I said, you know, our our mother son, like mother-in-law, son-in-law dynamic is a lot different than like when my dad, I remember my dad with my grandmother, um, you know, my my mom with my husband. Um, you know, so we were we were talking about that, and um it's it's just go ahead, you can yeah, it's um it's been nice.

Leon:

I I tried to get an inn early on because I had a job at McDonald's and uh I would bring over a case of fries at the end of my shape.

Heather:

Amazing, did you bring her to Coke?

Leon:

Yeah, exactly. If I had treats the whole family, then maybe uh maybe that would win me some brownie points, you know.

Zia:

It did, it did brownie points, tons of brownie points.

Heather:

That sounds like brownie points for sure. Wow, I love that. So, how long have you been in the family, Leon?

Leon:

Oh boy, well, it's uh since high school. Star and I started uh dating in high school and uh senior year, and then um the family ended up we we met in Florida actually. Um the the family moved back up to New York, but um Star and I were uh already you know enamored, infatuated one.

Zia:

Infatuated one was there. I love that I love that for you.

Leon:

They um uh you know had decided that uh my mother-in-law and father-in-law had decided that they were going to move back up and uh were gracious enough to uh you know offer to for me to stay with them uh if if that was an option. So uh we all moved up here and I've been here in New York since 2013. So while I was a Florida man born and raised up until 18, um when I turned 36, I will officially be a New Yorker if I stay here all that time.

Heather:

Oh my goodness, that's a lot. Wow, that's amazing! Wow, I love that. Yeah, and we were starving together the whole time, yes, yes, yeah.

Leon:

We got married uh at 21, and now it's uh we've traveled the world together. We've spent uh, you know, many anniversaries and Valentine's Days traveling, and uh we're excited for this upcoming year uh because you know you're going through your 20s, you're trying to figure things out, and now we're in our 30s, early 30s, and uh it it's starting to feel like okay, we've got a few things figured out. We're we're starting to put the pieces together, and um, you know, now we know we we actually really do like to travel quite a bit. So we'll go to places and and it's exciting, it's really nice. Uh this upcoming February, we're gonna go to um Mexico City and uh go see one of our favorite bands, My Chemical Romance, and uh we'll see them play live and reintroduce their tour.

Heather:

So I'm sure you've heard we have we actually I think we talked about it, if not this last one on eight, it was seven or eight we talked about it because yeah, my daughter Eliza was in Mexico, yeah, she was over there cancun. Yeah, and and your mother-in-law was talking. Do you call her mother-in-law, Zia, mom? What do you call her?

Leon:

It depends, honestly. I'll say mom, I'll say zia depends. Uh kind of flip-flops. Yeah, sometimes I'll say z.

Heather:

Yep, yep. I do the z typically, yes, but but yeah, we were talking about like to shorten my name.

Zia:

Everybody does. We were talking about how our girls are world travelers, so yeah. Yep, yep. And it's funny, you he had mentioned when we moved up here, you know, we mentioned to him first about coming up here and moving up here before we did to star. And she was like, But Leon, and I'm like, Yeah, I don't know. We're like, I don't know what's gonna happen with Leon. That's and we already had asked him, so yeah.

Heather:

Where in Florida were you from?

Leon:

Southwest Florida, near uh most people know Naples or Fort Myers. So I'm from uh Bonita Springs, but I was born in Fort Myers, and uh, you know, growing up living near the beach, it's kind of like when your house has a pool, you never really use it, and then when you're not near it anymore, you don't have it, it's like ah, that was nice. I probably should have used it more.

Zia:

Yeah, it's amazing how that works. We were we we say that too, because we only had like what in a good day it would be like 20 minutes to the beach in Jersey, but we didn't really utilize that a lot.

Heather:

No, no. We we were about where I'm where I was from, we were about on a good day, we were about 45 minutes on a Saturday. We were about three hours. Right. Yep. But we were about 45 minutes and we would go maybe once or twice a summer to the to the to um Seaside. We would either go to Season or Avon by the Sea. Those were the two we typically went to.

Zia:

Yep, yeah, that's us too. We used to go to Asbury Park too, but then it just went downhill and we couldn't go anymore.

Heather:

My mom didn't want to go to Asbury Park because that's where all the New Yorkers came to. Oh, yeah, yeah. So she didn't want to go there because that was the New Yorkers beach.

Leon:

I remember her saying that because we're from Jersey, right? That's right.

Heather:

TJ Slinko. That's right, that's right. So um I heard a rumor about you, Leon. That I did, and I heard that you have a strange addiction to pens. I uh feel like I need to know this, I need to know more info.

Leon:

It's kind of uh tied into a bunch of different things. I I try to live by the philosophy that uh being interested is interesting, and the best way to stay interesting is to be interested in many things. So uh I love to pick up different hobbies, and uh one of the things that we use every day, you know, is is pens and pencils and stationery. And um it started, I think, with maybe like a YouTube rabbit hole or something. Uh but it I had some pens that I preferred over others, and and then I saw, oh, there's actually some, I guess, name brands or people that brands you'd recognize that uh just have a nicer feel to writing. And um, I guess I talked about it enough that it ended up becoming uh something that I was known known for or known by is uh you know, my love of stationery and also camping. Uh I like to play music, listen to different types of music. I play a few different instruments. Um more than a few. Yeah, when I when I try to like meld them all together, they don't really mesh. So uh they all stick out as uh different different parts of my personality.

Zia:

I love that. That's awesome. He kind of fit in very, very well with our family because we're a very musical family. I mean, uh Star played different instruments, and Zach and you know, my husband played, I played, so kind of like we're like, yes, Leon, yes, not that we were trying to brainwash him, we didn't have to. He already like melded into our family. He said he was infatuated, so I think, and then like I didn't help with the pen situation because I you know I love my pens, and if somebody takes my pens, forget it. So we're always staplers, you know. Yeah, I never I mean, um, yeah, my staplers, don't touch my staplers, but um, yeah, see here, my Baron Fig pen with me right here. See, I have what do I have? What's my pen? That was that was uh I had gotten that for him, so yeah.

Leon:

See, I don't this gotten. Yeah, it's got a little sword imprint.

Heather:

Z, take a picture of that so we can post it. Yep. Leon's pen.

Leon:

Yep. And it says uh uh on the actual pen on the inside and on all the packaging, it says the pen is mightier than the sword, which I think is really interesting way to you know continue to think about it. Whenever I use this pen, I'm just thinking about you know, our words are powerful. What we choose to say, what we choose to love and not love is is important.

Zia:

Yep. But that that I contributed to the addiction with that pen. I I got that pen. As I sit here with all the pens next to me, it's terrible. I know. That's awesome.

Heather:

You guys are so funny, terrible.

Zia:

But we we do we do a funny thing though. Um, and when I when Leon was first in the house, we realized that you know, every my whole family loves music, as I know you do. But Leon and I like to, when we hear somebody talking and they start a conversation and it goes to a song, we just kind of glance at each other and we're like, uh-oh. There's the song.

Leon:

It happened just uh a week or two ago where somebody said, Can you let the dogs out? Yeah, both looked at each other.

Heather:

Yeah, yep. Yeah, I do that too. I feel like I feel like mine is more of a musical world where I will sing what I'm doing. So I'm putting the clothes in the dryer. La la la la la.

Zia:

That's great. I love that. That's great. So I wonder we do it sometimes with like we do it sometimes with like movie lyrics and stuff like that too. Yeah. So like you know, shows and stuff. Yeah. Oh my god, yeah, we're worse than like five-year-olds sometimes. Yep.

Heather:

That's that is okay. It's that's actually a fun thing to do. So oh, I love that.

Zia:

I mean, you can't you can't have a lid without saying, Patrick, where's the where's the lid, Patrick? The lid, Patrick. Where is it?

Heather:

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's some things you just have to finish. Sorry. But speaking of finishing, everybody that I know says the word whatever.

Zia:

Yes.

Heather:

So when you say it, what are you saying? Kind of like our do we love that for you? You know, like people say we say it like, do we love that for you? So when you say whatever, what are you saying?

Leon:

Well, I would say there's one of my favorite skits uh or uh, you know, short uh reels that that would come up. Uh there's a key and peel bit where they're texting each other and that word gets kind of lost in translation. Uh and at one point the kit one of the characters says to the other, he says, Yeah, sure, I'm fine with that, whatever. And the other person reads it as like, whatever. How could you say it to me? Is this not important to you? When really the other person's like leaving an avenue for them to make the choice.

Zia:

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think mine is like that. I think when I say whatever, I mean uh just leave me alone. Okay, yeah, like well, Michael says that if I say when I say it, he says, I'm actually saying F you. So actually we have R E. I can say that. Fuck you. So no, that is that right, that is not what I'm saying. But he read somewhere that when you when you say that, that's really what you're saying. But I've been saying that for a long time, and I don't feel like that's what I'm just like leave me alone, I really don't care. Just make the decision.

Leon:

Context is important. So one thing that I would say is my equivalent to whatever is the word sure, and star knows that it gets under my skin like nothing else. If I ask about something and do you want to do something, sure is like okay, I guess we don't have to then. Well, in all actuality, she could totally mean that, like, yeah, I'm fine with that, and that's likely how she means it.

Heather:

Yeah, but that's not how you hear it. I think when I say whatever, I think I'm saying it kind of the same. I'm I'm saying whatever. I don't, I I truly don't have an opinion on it. And if I do have an opinion, I don't want to express it.

Zia:

Right.

Heather:

I feel like it's it's one of those things that I truly just whatever.

Zia:

Yeah, and I feel like sometimes when when I use it, I have it's like my way to stop my own thinking because if I if I say whatever, then I'm just like cutting off the conversation in my head that I just can't be bothered, just stop. I can't, yeah. Yep, it's like a precept for myself to say whatever because I use that a lot when I was younger with my parents. So you're like, yep, whatever, it's fine. Go on.

Heather:

Yeah, if I used that with my mother, my head would be handed. I'd I'd be sitting here like, yeah, what is that movie, Beetlejuice, holding my head, you know, sitting next to me?

Zia:

Yeah, I'm not saying she liked it, Heather. I'm not saying she liked when I said it, but I couldn't swear. So that was my whatever. So that brings us back to what Michael said. No.

Leon:

You've been riding all along.

Zia:

Oh no, oh no, mark this day on the calendar. No, yes.

Heather:

Oh god, too funny. One of our listeners, Allie, reached out to me this week and she brought up the conversation last week in our five-minute loves about J Lo's golden globe dress, right? Which sparked a lot of conversation between us because we we we really did not understand it at first. Absolutely. And what she said was the reason she brought that up is she wanted us to start implementing some sort of a current event into our podcast. She said she loves the five minutes, loves, she loves our banter, she loves all of that, but she wants us to talk about something going on. So she gave me a couple of suggestions, and I didn't like them, and I'm not gonna bitch. She wants us to talk about uh Beckham and she wanted us to talk about Vanna White, and I said no to both. So we're gonna talk about Snow Mageddon. I love it. I feel like that has taken over the news more than anything. So what are you willing to clear in New Jersey?

Zia:

Yeah, yep. What are you guys looking at in New York? I don't think I see shelves being cleared off here.

Leon:

You're kind of used to it.

Zia:

Yeah, I don't feel like there's that much of a you know, oh my god, we're gonna die, you know, situation.

Leon:

But I have family in Texas, and I know Texas tends to lose their noodle over two inches of snow.

Heather:

They do. So are they down there? Are they down there prepared for it?

Leon:

Uh yeah, they're doing their best. Uh luckily my dad's a plumber, so if they get any pipes freezing, he'll be able to take care of anything they need.

Zia:

But that's a good thing, yeah. I feel like with this storm, it's gonna be harder for Leon for his job than than just the weather.

Leon:

So I work in disaster restoration. So when pipes freeze or uh people lose power, that kind of thing, uh, I'm first in line to uh to go out and help.

Heather:

Yeah.

Leon:

I'll leave it too.

Heather:

Do you have your snowshoes on, ready to go?

Leon:

Well, luckily I get to make the phone calls. Uh my uh I I run a team that will go out and actually do the responding. But I used to be out in the field doing that. Now now I have uh uh an office job. So I I lose a little street cred there, but it's a light blue collar job.

Heather:

A light blue, a light blue.

Zia:

That's great.

Heather:

So yeah, in New Hampshire, um we're it's pretty normal here. I mean, we're gonna get a lot more snow in one setting than we've gotten, but I mean, we've been getting, I mean, we still have six, eight inches from just last weekend where we had three storms in four days. So yeah, I don't think everybody here is panicking too much. My square dance did get canceled for Sunday. So I'm a little sad about that. Um, but I'd rather not go and be safe. We got some backcountry roads that are roads or dirt or something. Yeah. But um, and and to prove how much I know for a fact New York isn't doing too bad, I asked Eliza today how she was prepared for it. And she's going to Massachusetts tomorrow to celebrate her boyfriend's birthday. And then they're coming back tomorrow night after dinner. So she's not even worried about yeah.

Zia:

Yeah.

Leon:

Sunday it's supposed to hit though, right?

Zia:

Yeah, Sunday to Monday. Yeah.

Heather:

So it's why I think we're going to go Saturday. But yeah, so I guess Snow Mageddon, I guess we'll have to mention it next week and see if we all got I know I know we're predicted to get between 10 and 17 inches is the last I heard when I was on one of our local news stations.

Zia:

You know, though that sounds about that sounds about what we're it's like 11 to 18, so same same thing. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Heather:

Not a big thing, but yeah. So I have another weird thing. Sure. How much how much time do we have? We've got a couple. We can we can do one more. We're good. So I was at a birthday party last week, and one of our new listeners, Mary, she was talking about, I was telling her about the five-minute loves, and she was like, Oh, I don't like coffee. But she was like, she's picked up her husband's cup of coffee and smelled it. And I'm like, You're smelling his coffee? And we kind of giggled about it a bit. And and she was like, Yeah, I I don't like the taste of coffee, but I like the smell. And then I started thinking, what do I like the smell of, but I don't like the taste of? And I came up with, I like the smell of um bread cooking, but I don't like it warm. I don't like it when you eat it warm, like when it's fresh out of the oven. I don't like the taste of that, but I like the smell of it coming while you're cooking it or baking it, I should say. Can you think of anyone or anything?

Zia:

Uh yeah, I don't know. I what I smell, I like, and what I like to taste is I mean, I don't know. I I won't eat anything I don't want the smell of.

Leon:

Anyway, so yeah, most I guess what I would there was one time I distinctly remember I had picked up a uh bottle or a glass of what I thought was water and it was Sprite. And I like both water and sprite, but being surprised by the fact that it was Sprite and not water kind of made me recoil. And yeah, for some reason, it was a super strong memory for me.

Zia:

Yep, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, like the preparation of thinking it's something else.

Leon:

Yeah, why is my water spicy?

Zia:

Right. Well, yeah, we had that experience. Leon and I had that experience when he first came into the household, and he was such a good trooper about this. His future mother-in-law said, 'Do you want some coffee? Right? Oh, and he was drinking it, and then I took my first sip of the coffee, and I was like, 'This is really hot.' And he's like, 'Yeah.' And I was like, temperature was like, you know, like, no, like spicy hot. Like, why is my coffee spicy hot? No, I made the coffee. I was used to using cinnamon every morning in the coffee maker, and someone had moved the cinnamon and the cayenne. So I Leanne and I had cayenne pepper uh coffee. And I'm sipping it live. Drinking it.

Leon:

This is new, but okay.

Zia:

Yep. Not gonna say anything to yes, yes, yep. Yep. Oh, I love that. We we've shared some weird moments like that, you know.

Leon:

Just like it was very fun.

Zia:

Yes, because um, I had my tattoo shop in Florida, so Leon was my apprentice, so he was learning to pierce under my my lesson. So yeah. Okay. So yep. Oh, he like he learned on piercing my nose, and yep. So he I trusted him. I trusted him coming in the family.

Leon:

Yeah. It took a lot of trouble.

Zia:

It did. So guess what time it is? I know, I love it.

Heather:

TikTok, TikTok, TikTok.

Zia:

Hopefully, hopefully.

Heather:

We need to send Stefani. We sent our our producer, our TikTok right there. You made a TikTok for us. So hopefully we can get that work in.

Zia:

Hopefully, that was just my beginning of uh it's dipping my feet back into my world of um garage band that I oh god please.

Heather:

All right, you ready? Yep. All right, Leon actually wants to do our first five-minute love. Go ahead, Leon. What's your what's your love it or hate it?

Leon:

All right. So uh Love It or Hate It sports teams, family sports teams. As a family, uh, we have for hockey, uh, we all like the devils, but in football, we all have different sports teams. And I'm not gonna lie, as a Cowboys fan, I do not love that my brother-in-law is an Eagles fan.

Zia:

They both hurt.

Leon:

I'm sure, I'm sure. And so that's why we're so divided in in the household. But hockey, we're all devils, also.

Heather:

Okay, so my family, um, we're not really hockey watchers, but I'd mentioned that before. We're not we're not too big into hockey. Hockey's fun to watch, but we don't go out of our way to see hockey. Um, our football, we are pretty much all divided. Um, I am a diehard giants. Um Giants are from Jersey, they're really not, or they really are, even though they claim to be New York. They used to play and practice in New Jersey. They still do, but yep. So I am a diehard Giants fan. Um, one of my brothers is a diehard Buccaneers, Tampa Bay. Another brother, yeah. Another brother is diehard. Um yeah, whoop, whoop. Another brother is uh San Francisco 49ers. Um, my dad wasn't really into football until he got moved, listen uh lived with us, until he got married with my mom. And um, so he's a Giants fan. My mom's a Giants fan. Eliza is a anything that makes the game end faster fan.

Zia:

I love that.

Heather:

Yeah, she she's not really that she likes more baseball, and she likes um who does she like? Baltimore.

Leon:

Okay, but I'm sure she's heard, you know. Oh, there's only five more minutes left in the bait in the in the game, and that's into 30.

Zia:

Baltimore fan for baseball? Eliza's, yeah.

Leon:

No, Margaret's uh Margaret likes Baltimore for football. Football, right?

Heather:

For football. Okay. Eliza's more Eliza's the baseball. Um, but when she was in high school, they did a uh four or five day trip as her senior class trip down to DC and they went to a Oilers game. So that was her first real game.

Zia:

Okay.

Heather:

So she likes them. So yeah, I I think we are all divided as well. I I don't think we all have a universal team. Um during the holidays, when everybody's together, we watch the game that's on, you know, Thanksgiving and and all that.

Zia:

So we all watch that, but except my husband and Leon are Dallas fans together, right?

Leon:

That's why Thanksgiving's my favorite holiday because Dallas is always playing and there's always a giant feast, I guess, in Turkey.

Heather:

You can't beat that for you.

Leon:

So I love that for me.

Heather:

So our next five-minute love is cauliflower being used as starches.

Zia:

Love it or hate. Yeah, and and it's funny because we just had this discussion. I had a discussion with um someone at work about this a couple of days ago. So it was really cool that we had put this in here. How weird is that? Oh, I know, very strange. Um, I don't know. I like my starches. What about you, Leon?

Leon:

I also like my starches, but if I'm going for if I know that that's what it is and I'm doing it for a reason, then I'll suffer through it.

Heather:

Yep. I like um I like when they make the cauliflower into wings. So they put the wing sauce on the cauliflower and they kind of like deep fry it so that's not really healthy cauliflower. Um, but I do the cauliflower replacements partially because of my my stomach, my my surgeries, you know, my weight loss.

Leon:

Yeah.

Heather:

Um, but I do want my I do like my starches.

Leon:

Yep.

Heather:

So one of our one of our Instagram followers. Yeah. One of our Instagram followers, Deb, said we should talk about the Stuarts versus Wawa.

Zia:

Okay, well, we know where we're following on this one. Yes. And it's funny because um this Instagrammer was actually one of my students, and um, great question, because she knows about me and my jersey stuff. Um, but yeah, I have to go with the Wawa. Um, when you go in there, I feel like there's more people cooking the stuff for you. Um, they're making the subs right in front of you. It's fresh. Um, so you have a little bit of both worlds there. You get your junk that you want, and you also can get a little bit of a meal. My son Zach has to stop when we come back because he wants this like iced coffee they make, and he just swears this is the best iced coffee ever. Yeah, it's like a frozen coffee. I mean, so yeah, I mean, come on. Yep. How about you, Liam?

Leon:

Because you've been um, not being a native New Yorker, I love the culture around Stuarts. Uh, I do have to say it would be an amazing uh Christmas gift if one year I was gifted from New Yorkers a Stuart's hat that just said S-T-O-R-T-S. Like the way that they say it.

Zia:

That's great. I love it. Oh I love that.

Heather:

I love that. I think that's gonna be our merch talk. Yeah, yep. They might have to make we might have to make those Leon Storz. Yeah, we might have to make those into into merch. Um, yeah, so I'm gonna say Wawa as well. However, Storz ice cream is Storz ice cream, right? I mean, their ice cream is superior. Um, but I do like the Wawa, and I was talking to Yuzi. We have something similar to a Wawa here in New Hampshire, it's called the Common Man, and it's in a gas station. It's it's actually a restaurant itself, but they have um little like bars type thing in the gas stations, a few of them, and um it's the same concept as a wawa. You can order pretty much anything, it's a lot of pub food and stuff. Um, so I get that, just not with the Wawa, it's common.

Zia:

You had mentioned the ice cream of Storz, and I know that someone had visited our school one time and said, Oh, you know, what flavor should I try and all this. And they had asked me, Well, what's your favorite flavor from Storz? And I or ice cream flavor. And I said, Well, it all depends what brand it is. I don't like just one flavor of ice cream, I like it a different flavor in each brand of ice cream. So I'm very particular with the ice cream. I myself do not think that Storz has the amazing ice cream that everybody feels they have. Um, because I I'm more of like a Hagen, I'm like more of a Hagen Dass ice cream person. So it's hard to back down from the Hagendas when there's fake color and you know cherry ice cream. So it's haggendas, right? And my 31 flavors are my 31 flavors, yeah.

Leon:

Hog and it, yeah.

Heather:

So if we're not on that, then I'm all then I'm about Ben and Jerry's. Oh, there you go. If we're going off of that, yeah, I'm I'm all about the Ben and Jerry's, but but yeah, uh it I do. I find uh I seem to find different flavors in different places, yeah, or different companies.

Zia:

Absolutely.

Heather:

So I think we have time for one more.

Zia:

We're running out of time, so Facebook followers, Dickie and Eliza. Do you watch the commercial? They seem to be there, you know, yeah, or when you're watching the one that I liked as part of this is the intros to the movies or shows. Do you skip them? Do you hit that skip button or do you keep watching them? What do you do, Heather? Okay.

Heather:

Well, when we watch commercial when we're watching like Netflix, we have the commercial ver um tier of Netflix now. Yeah. So um, because it comes free with the T-Mobile. So we get the commercials and stuff. So for those, you can't fast forward. Okay. Um so we do watch them, um, but when it offers the two-minute commercial for nothing, we we all, you know, we go with that as well. So we don't have cable at our house. There's it's all streaming. So unfortunately, I do watch the commercials. Um, and if it's a intro of a show that I like the song to, I leave it. Or if it's a saying, you know, if they say something or if they do something quirky and I love it, I'll I'll watch it. Otherwise, I skip the intro as well. What about you, Leon? What about you, Leon?

Leon:

Um, I'll take the commercials as an opportunity to grab a snack, as our forefathers did. And uh, as far as the TV intros, uh, I would I love watching um TV intros for the the shows that have really interesting ones, like uh um oh my gosh, what's the one where they like go into their altar at work?

Zia:

Oh god. Um oh my god, what the heck is it? We watch it too.

Leon:

Um anyway, that though, and uh there's also certain animes that have just really catchy intros.

Zia:

Yep. Yeah, I I do it more for like I'll listen to the intros if that's good music, because I usually download the songs and put them in my car, especially if they got good bass. I need that bass to be in my car. So, like uh mayor of Kingstown. All about that bass, all about the bass, right? Right. Um yeah, my severance, severance, severance is the show that he likes the severance, yeah. But um, like Tehran just came back, and that is a song that like it's so powerful in my car that like when it when it just came back to new season, I put the volume up and I just have to listen to the song. Yep, absolutely.

Heather:

I love that for you guys. So all right. Well, unfortunately, yes, I think we're gonna have to pretend we're drinking coffee and it's gonna get cold. Yeah, we are out of time. Leon, thank you so much for coming.

Leon:

Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure.

Heather:

It's been a pleasure, all right. Everybody, have a good one.