Do We Love...Association

First impressions aren’t neutral. A name tag, a memory, a song lyric—our brains connect dots that aren’t always fair. We dive into the messy truth of name association and the quiet ways it shapes how we greet someone new. With plenty of laughs and a few “please don’t be that person” moments, we explore how to pause the story in our heads and meet people as they are.

From there we get honest about the habits we hide in plain sight—picking at hangnails, peeling thumbs, biting lips—and why those “small” rituals can carry real health risks. Instead of shame spirals, we trade harm‑reduction moves: tape, trimmers, fidget swaps, and routines that soothe the nervous system. Our best sleep helpers make an appearance too—no screens before bed, set wind‑down rituals, and the 9:30 lights‑out that actually sticks.

We also launch a travel mini‑series built for real life. One of us plans a week ahead with stealth packing to avoid spooking the dogs; the other swears by modular kits, Orbitkey organizers, and a fold‑flat carry‑on that turns chaos into calm. We compare backpack carry‑ons to wheelies, share meds‑first checklists, and decide when to retire that wobbly suitcase before a big trip. It’s the same throughline everywhere: make fewer decisions when your stress is highest.

Our lightning round keeps things playful and sharp. Superpowers reveal what we value—clarity, quiet, strength. Drinks become a lesson in boundaries and meds. The Olympics test our taste for risk and mastery, from track and field to figure skating, curling, and the biathlon. And yes, we debate split‑in‑two movies: add runtime only if it moves the story forward.

If you love candid friendship, practical systems, and a side of travel nerdiness, you’re in the right place. Tap follow, share with a friend who overpacks or overthinks, and leave a quick review telling us your go‑to packing hack or the habit you’re breaking next.

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Transcript

Banter And Episode Setup

Heather 0:24

That's what we mean. We say things at the same time. We do. Welcome to episode 14 of Do We Love That For You.

Zia 0:34

Yes. Welcome, welcome.

Heather 0:36

So today, go ahead. Oh my gosh, this is going to be an all day thing. We're bad today.

What Name Association Really Means

Zia 0:42

Go ahead. You go. Okay. Our episode today, number 14, is Do We Love Association?

Heather 0:52

Well, being as name associations, spoiler alert is one of our topics. Um, I'm gonna say sometimes they're fun.

Zia 1:03

They are. They are sometimes they are not, but yes, but most of the time they are. Yes. I'm not Debbie Downer, I'm just the pessimist in the relationship.

Heather 1:13

Sometimes you are, sometimes some we rotate that job. We do. So let's start with that topic. We might as well start with that one.

Zia 1:20

Yes. So go for it. A name association. When so I was on vacation and a person walked up to our table as a waitress, you know, just meeting the person, right? Is you're just meeting a person. And um, I read the name tag, and I'm not gonna say the name, but as soon as she said, My name is blah blah blah, I went three blah, okay. Yeah, I was like, Ugh. And there's nothing against her. There was nothing against her because I just met her, but as soon as I heard the name, I was like, oh god. I was like, why? Why do I get stuck with this name? Right. And my name too. He was just like, Great. My wife's just gonna be like, Yeah, just give me the damn food. It's gonna be a long meal, right? We need to eat and get out of here. She was she was very sweet, you know. Yeah, and I and I really try not to do that, but oh man, does my brain click right over? What about you? Yeah, it does.

Heather 2:24

Um see now when you said name association, I went the opposite way. Oh, I went with like hearing somebody's name like, oh, this is Stacy. Stacy's mom is okay. There's that too. So I went with that kind of association. But but um to do it your way, yeah, I'm gonna say that happens a lot. Yeah, I'll meet, I'll meet somebody and they'll be like, hi, I'm blah blah. Not blah blah blah. I'm blah blah. And I'll be like, don't be like blah blah. Right. Yeah. Or please be like blah blah. Oh, that too. Or blah.

Zia 3:08

Sometimes, you know, yeah, sometimes you get that person. It's a good with your name, right? Like, I don't I don't have many heathers, right? Right. But like having you as a heather, there was a standard set already, yeah. So it's like, don't go below this standard because I don't know what we're gonna do with that, right? Um, yeah, so yeah, definitely. I'm quite sure you can do that with all the Zias out.

Heather 3:31

You know, I know. Let me count one okay. Although Eliza, my nephew Cameron, called Eliza Z. Aw. When when he was little, he called her the so cute. So I have a the you have a. I had a z.

Zia 3:54

Well, a lot of people in my name, they're like, you you're Italian, you know, that's aunt in Italian, and I'm like, yes, I know. I'm like, I wasn't present at my naming. Um, but why why do people do that? Right, right. Why do people talk to you about what you're named after? I didn't do it. Yeah, I didn't name myself, right? No, so I I originally was gonna be a Mia M-I-A. Um, but then my You would have been missing in action? Yeah, I would have been missing in action, and I would have been. Well, that could have been really true. Um Different topic. No. So my my real dad said that he had a girlfriend in Holland named Mia. And my mom Joyce was like, uh-uh. Nope, nope. So then she loves Z's, like that was like her favorite letter, whatever. I don't know why. And she stuck the Z on there. And so I thought that was the story. When I talked to my aunt over the summer one time, she said that my great-grandmother, the Italian great-grandmother, named me. Oh, yeah, and she's Italian, so she would have known she would have known Aunt. So I mean, I used to tell my nieces to just call me Aunt Z. We went over that, but it's like well at school, you're Miss Z.

Heather 5:13

Yeah. Well, you don't have anybody say your first name or your last name.

Using Names As Verbs And Social Shortcuts

Zia 5:16

My lovely high schoolers, my alternative education dearies, they gave me that name. So I couldn't get away from that. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, that's fighting a cold. That that strict um I look at you, please don't be that person. Don't don't be that person.

Heather 5:36

So yeah, I'll I'll I'll look. I'll look at somebody or hear somebody's name and be like, are you gonna be or what I like to do is use people's name as a as a verb. For example, we have um I'm trying to think of how to do this without calling anybody out. Yeah, we have a neighbor in the world. I've lived many a places, yes, and when that person exceeds their visit limit, we call it getting, I'm gonna use your name. We call it being Ziad.

Zia 6:17

Oh, I love it. Yes, I we have done that too.

Heather 6:20

Yeah, so Zia won't leave, so now we're Zed. So if I have to, if I have to run to your house to drop something off, I'm gonna be like, I'll be back in 20 minutes. You know, I gotta run across Clifton Park and hopefully I don't get Zed on the way. Right, right. So we also do like that kind of a name association where you yeah, yeah.

Zia 6:40

I think you and I have done that also. We have, which is probably where it started. But um, yeah, we start some things, you and I together. Yeah, yeah.

Reading The Room And Shared Reactions

Heather 6:53

So that brings us to our next topic. You realize that that like brought it right into people having the same reaction. And we know what we're gonna do and how, for example, we'll be sitting in Starbucks, our favorite place to go. Yeah, and someone will walk in, wouldn't be the first time. No, and I will see them because generally we sit so that I'm facing we sit by the window so we both have full view, but I generally sit because you know, yeah, I generally sit facing the door, and you sit with your back to the door, but then that means you see the bathroom and and all of that easier. Yeah. And I will see somebody walking in and I will be like, lower your voice, or I'll be like, don't look that way, or I'll be like, shh, right.

Zia 7:49

But then when I do see, we both are like have the same face uh-huh on. Yep. Yep. I don't think Heather just said Zia, lower your voice. I will tell it, which is funny coming from me. Who I know who do I ever get to say? Wait, where's Rich? Rich needs to hear this one. But yeah, if I get hooked up on a story, oh yeah, I'm like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah, you do. But I do job. I mean, yeah. I'm a loud person. But it but not only that, I mean, we just did that opening up this whole episode because we're like, no, yes, go, no, you go, no, you go. Right. Because we're definitely we're on the same timing for some reason. We just for a lot of things on. Yep.

Heather 8:36

Yeah. Yeah.

Zia 8:38

But it's awesome.

Heather 8:39

But it is fun to watch. It is fun to watch sometimes how we'll be doing something and I'll see something and know what you're gonna do. So I just move forward. Same. I'll meet you, I'll meet you there because I know this is coming, and I'll meet you, I'll meet you in the crazy train. Right. Good song too, by the way. Good song. But yeah.

Zia 9:00

Yeah, it but you have to sometimes know that, especially, you know, we've been friends for a while now, and it's like um you know my reaction. Yeah. Just knowing that sometimes helps you um move along out of a different store sometimes.

Heather 9:20

Wouldn't be the first time for that either.

Zia 9:24

Actually, I was driving into school with my music on yesterday, two days now, and somebody had said, Oh, got the beats on, oh, got the beats on again, kind of thing. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, I I do. Yep. And people really know this unless you I don't know. Anyway, so um I had said, yeah, I go, it's probably safer for everyone when I come in with my music like that. If I don't come in with my music like that, you may want to worry. Yeah, that might be a worry day. No, oh god. Yeah, what the heck? We to be to be able to point out everything about everybody. I would get so tired.

Bad Habits We Struggle To Break

Heather 10:05

Yeah. I couldn't. That's gonna be one of our, you know, you know, you don't you don't know, but you do, because we just talked about it. Yes, but that's one of our uh that's gonna be one of our questions in our five minute loves today. Yes, yeah that'll be fun. Okay.

Zia 10:22

But go ahead. Um, well, good or bad habits, shall we move on to that? We probably should. Okay, let's do that. Um go ahead. Well, I'm as we're speaking of bad habits, um doing one of mine. Biting your thumb. Well, actually, I don't bite it. I peel at it. Well, that's true. You do peel it. Yeah, I don't really bite like it's not all up in my mouth, you know, to bite it, like biting your nails or something. I don't do that. It's just this one thumb and I have a long-term relationship of Oh, and I'm doing mine. Yeah, here's my frustration, and I'm gonna do this. Yeah. Yeah. My head has been very I know I know it's bad when I start on the other thumb. Then I know my brain is all over the place. So I was doing very good. Um, it's actually not near the nail right now, it's down further down. But yeah, I have to really sometimes just tape up my finger so I because I know it's gonna happen. And my my doctor, I don't know if you know this, but my doctor did yell at me one time. Um, he said, like, it's my heart doctor. So this is a true thing that a heart doctor said to me. Um, he looked at my thumb because it was very bad shape at that time. And he said, Um, are you do you bite your nails? And I said, No, I don't bite my nails. I just pick at this one thumb. And he said, Is it hang nail? Or I go, oh no, it's like if I could like predator my thumb, I predator my thumb. I, you know, instead of ripping the um the the you know spine out of my enemies, I rip the skin off of my thumb. So he goes, So I'm gonna tell you something, and actually Michael was there with me, so he brings this up to me quite often. Okay, he says, if you hit this wrong and your thumb gets infected as a diabetic. Yeah, that goes straight to your heart. The infection from your thumb could go straight to your heart, yeah, and you could die. And I was like, Okay, what am I doing now? I sit there and I go, Well, I can't go that deep because if it bleeds, I might get an infection. So I just do the top layer now and I won't go so deep. And then you switch hands. Yeah, and that solves that problem.

Heather 12:48

Oh, yeah, yeah. All right, I think we need to start learning how to uh break a habit. Break a habit.

Zia 12:54

My habit 18 days it says 18 days to break a habit.

Building Better Night Routines

Heather 12:58

My habit is is I take the hangnails and I picket them, and then I just rip them, and then I get the cut going all the way down, all the way down. Yeah. No, that's that's my super bad finger habit. As a matter of fact, I have two hangnails right now that I was debating playing with while we were doing the podcast, and I have one that I got yesterday. But yeah, you need one of those little cutters. I have one. Oh, you have one. Never mind. But then see, I'll sit there and I'll take the cuticle and I'll cut off the cuticle until it's you know, where it till it bleeds. Yeah, and we both bite our lips. I do bite our lipside. I bite the outside. I bite the outside. You bite the inside, I bite the outside. Yeah, yeah. But good habits that I have, oh I I have um, I don't know. Let me let me think. Your good habits. Let's see, what good habits do we have? Um, I have a good one. Okay. I don't use electronics about 20 minutes before I go to bed.

Zia 14:00

Oh, my daughter Sar and her husband do that. Yeah, they oh, that's a good one.

Heather 14:06

Let me told me to do that because of my horrible sleep schedule. They told me that I should start doing that. And I'm gonna say I've been doing it now for well, I've been attempting to do it for about a year now. Okay. It's been about a year, right? I think it's been about a year. Yeah, I think you have, yeah. I feel like it's been about a year, and and for the most part, I do it every night. Um I'm not gonna lie, there are some nights I don't. Yeah. But for the most part, I try. Huh.

Zia 14:37

But yeah, um, so I think I had adopted a new good habit. Okay, because it was more to make time for myself at the end of the day and get out of my head. Um I make sure I have the routine, like a I need routine, like that is a plus for me. So the 9 30 mark is my gotta go to bed time. And I, you know, set everything up. I get my water, um, and I wash my face every night. Like it makeup, make sure to take makeup off like every night, like whatever's on my face. I have like those little wipe things, you know. It's good. And or I do like um, isn't it like that makeup eraser? I think it's called. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, I can't use so much stuff on my face, so like just water is good if I don't have a makeup wipe. Um, so yeah, and just to like shut the bathroom door and do that little 10-minute ritual every night. Even if I go in the shower, I still freaking do it. And because it's like, you know, your face is already washed, of course, you know, late night. But I still kind of do it to make sure I'm on a timer. That's like a good habit I kind of adopted. So yeah, I like that.

Heather 15:58

Yeah, it's it's weird that I shouldn't say it is weird. Is it weird that both of us have to think about our good habits, but we know our bad.

Zia 16:07

Well, that's because our bad habits are brought up to us every two seconds by other people.

Heather 16:12

Okay.

Zia 16:14

I accept that. I I mean, my bad habits have been put in my face since I was a kid. So I mean, I know every single bad habit that I've had since I was a little kid. Yeah. Um, but the good habits, you no one recognizes that except you.

Heather 16:30

Sorry.

Zia 16:30

Unless you're doing it with someone. Like you and I, we we eat, we've been eating healthier since your health problems and my health problems. So we reckon we're like, oh my god, I'm so proud that you made that choice. Yeah. I bring that up to you, you bring it up to me. But speaking of which, last day of no chips. Oh my god, I love it. Boom. Love it. Yeah. So um, I just sorry, squirrel! Yeah, talk about you know, knowing each other's reactions. We just had that moment. Um, we knew our thoughts at the moment that she said that. Um, sorry. Yeah, it's just kind of like um I think there's no positivity around the good have the you know, the good habits, even though they're good. Yeah, we need to figure out a way to change that in this world. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how. Yep. Well, look at the world. Okay.

Launching A Travel Mini‑Series

Heather 17:31

Next topic. Next travel. Okay, so we're gonna start a little mini-series going on. Yeah. We travel, you and I. We won't travel together. We've been talking for almost four years now about travel. The four of us going, the and by the four of us, I mean you, Michael, me, Rich, going on a trip. Right. It is yet to happen, but we are getting closer to what happened because we are now actually talking a little more about it. But you and I travel a lot. We both have daughters who oh I think are gone more than their home. Yep, yep. So that brought us to a little mini-series we want to start talking about about traveling. Yeah. And like how you make travel plans, how you establish travel plans, who in the family draft who schedules them and does them. Yep. And then today's topic is gonna be packing.

Zia 18:27

Yep. Packing for travel.

Heather 18:29

Yeah.

Zia 18:31

How far out? Yeah, how far out do you wow man? We're back. Hey, you know what? We are on topic, okay. When we think these are really our topics in our life.

Heather 18:42

They really are. So you're asking how far out I pack it. I'm saying, how do you what like what do you pack? Yeah. So let's answer each one's first. So you go first. What's your question?

Packing Styles, Lists, And Systems

Zia 18:53

Oh, so my question is, how far out do you pack? Like if you're leaving next week, okay. Are you starting to pack today or are you packed two weeks ago?

Heather 19:04

So no, I'm so it depends on where I'm going. We have dogs and the dogs know the packing signs. Okay. So, yes, I physically putting the clothes in a bag, in a suitcase, in whatever apparatus I'm leaving in. I have certain ones that I travel with and I don't pull those out until day before because fourth house just can't handle that. Right. Um, aside from that, I'm traveling next weekend, we'll just say. Our example is next weekend I'm traveling. Yep. This weekend I am making my list of number of days planned and potentially unplanned activities. So for clothing and um organizing and making sure that I have all of the hair products, personal hygiene products. You know, do I have enough deodorant? Do I have enough toothbrush or you know, toothpaste, whatever? So this weekend is I start that. And then Monday I start organizing it so that by Thursday everything's in the bag and ready to go. And then Friday I leave. That would be so I would I pre-organize it and then it kind of just sits for a day or two. And then in case there's something I need to change. A week? Yeah, I I start officially about a week out. Yeah.

Zia 20:31

Okay. So what about you? I I think I do the same as my son Zachariah. Like like So you're packed today for the trip next year? Yes. That's that would be almost. I love that about him though. Yes. Um, so like if you told me I needed my passport to go somewhere, that passport's probably already in a bag this year for next year. Um, just so I know it's in the thing I'm gonna take next year. Because that's what's gonna happen any year. Okay. Um, but yeah, I do have actually there's one brand, and I'm gonna tag them. Um yeah, they have been making my life a little simpler. Okay. Um, I actually I have to say two brands, so I'll tag them. But um one is Orbit Key. Um, they yeah, they have made my life a little bit easier. So this bag goes in a bag. I mean, you guys can't see it, but I can take a picture of it. This bag goes in a bag, and then I have their other bag in the bag. You're so funny. Yeah, that which has like it actually holds when I go, this bag inside here holds my electronics and my diabetic stuff. Nice. So everything when I get there, I just take this out, put it on top of like the little desk or the little whatever. Yep. And this has pockets for it. So as you can see, I have my little eye care. Yeah, my eye care and stuff. Um, and then I just put this on, like I take it out of my um carry-on bag and I just put it on the thing.

Heather 22:06

It's a conveyor so they can scan it or whatever.

Zia 22:08

Uh no, actually, I don't even do that. I just keep it in my keep it in there. Okay. Yeah, you don't even have to do that. Um, so yeah, I have that. And then we Margaret and oh let's say what I can't remember the name of the brand, but I will get it. It's um It's it's a carry-on bag. So foldy. It folds down to this tiny little pouch and it's a full carry-on thing. It does extend, like it goes down. You can unzip it if you're coming back with a little bit more than you went with. Since I got that stupid bag and this and the other thing in it, I feel like a champ packing. I really do. Yeah. And our bags came with at the time a little like crossbody bag. Yeah. You could use it as like a um for your walking passport or whatever. Yeah, you could use it for that too. Um, and it locks. Like there's a little thing where you can lock the zipper so nobody could get in it for the crossbody. And that folds down to teeny tiny too. So when you're not using it, in the closet, it's not all over the place. Right. But little things like that I have to look for to go because I'm a panic about packing. Like there's no end. I could be, I could pack for a whole year and still go, I don't know if I have everything. But now with this system, I'm like, I have like a routine now. Right. And meds. I mean, meds is my if I don't have my meds, that's yeah, everything else Michael says, we get by when we get there. I hear that all the time. But yeah, but you could even get your meds on a cruise.

Heather 23:51

True. True. True. But yeah. When you're on a when you're on a port day in Miami and you have to run to the pharmacy three minutes before they close for lunch, and yeah. Yeah, I think I don't know who would have done that. I don't know. It was a honeymoon, though. I remember that. Oh, you're you have a good memory for people.

Zia 24:14

I do.

Luggage Upgrades And Suitcase Wars

Heather 24:15

If only I could remember who it was. Yeah, who was that? No. Right? Who's running around Miami trying to find the nearest CVS? That's funny. Not me. And then arguing because once the pharmacy wasn't on their lunch break, the doctor was.

Zia 24:34

That's great.

Heather 24:35

Oh yeah. Good time.

Zia 24:37

See, I told you keeping that that uh health topic open. That's our forever. Forever. Forever. But yeah, I that was a huge thing because I I was like, oh my god, how much time packing is too much time packing. Yep.

Heather 24:52

Yeah. So I got Eliza talking about your bags. I got Eliza, she had asked for a set of luggage, and I told her to find a couple of sets and I would get her one. And she's yet to do that. But she did tell me one of the things she wanted because she does do little weekend getaways. Right. She wanted um a backpack carry-on. Yes. So it's the size of the wheelie carry-on that I have, but hers is a backpack. And so she didn't give me she didn't give me a lot of direction on it. She just gave me the parameters. She wants it to be the size of a carry-on and a backpack. Which is strange for Eliza because right. If you know Eliza, you know that's strange.

Zia 25:39

Yeah.

Heather 25:40

But I did get her one, and now that I see it, I'm like, why am I using a wheelie bag when I could be using that?

Zia 25:49

Right. So ours just died this trip. We've had you for saying that. Yeah, so we have to we have to look.

Five‑Minute Loves: Superpowers

Heather 26:00

Yeah, my my wheelie bag I it is gonna die soon. Yeah. Um, I I think Iceland is gonna be the death of it. Yeah. My my big wheelie one. Yeah. Because we're gonna take we're gonna take our carry-on and put it in a big suitcase so that we have the big suitcase to come home with. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. Because I'm sure we're gonna come back with stuff. Yeah. Um, Zach, be on the lookout. Yeah. Um, but I'm I'm sure. So that's what we're gonna do. But I think I think my big suitcase is gonna die on this trip because it it didn't it didn't bode well on the last cruise we went on. The the one wheel was kind of wobbly, so I feel like it's gonna be done. But yeah, but it'll get us through Iceland and then I will chuck it. I mean, it's also it's also six or seven years old. And I know luggage should last longer than that, but I feel like it was a it was a quick buy, yeah, you know, Walmart, Amazon, not a name brand purchase. It was a it was a oh my gosh, we need a huge suitcase. Yeah, let me go get this. Right. But so well, we're actually out of time. Yeah, yeah. We'll we'll stop with this. Yeah, absolutely. It's uh it's an open topic. We're gonna talk about health and travel forever. That's health and travel, always. Yep. But that means that it's time. Wait, I gotta change screens. Wait, don't, don't, don't let I don't miss my screen. I'm down, I'm still down my computer. Uh, you are. That's why I gotta make sure I change screens. All right, you ready? Five minutes. Five minutes. Oh my goodness. All right. So the first one we got, so this this week's is hysterical because I was out in New York last week. Yep, and we had we had a good night one night um with some other friends that I have because I have other friends. But let's start with Nikki's on Facebook. Yes, absolutely. This is like one of my favorite topics. It is. When I worked in the school, it was something that all the kids said on birthdays. If you could have any superpower, what would it be? Nikki told us hers is invisibility.

Zia 28:12

So I usually do say that one also because God, I would love to pick on people invisible, but I also didn't want to be lit naked all the time. So I was like, I it would be very cold. I'm a very cold person. I'd have to put a coat on. So you know And then it wouldn't be invisible, and then I wouldn't be invisible, so my clothes would have to be invisible with me. Um yeah, but I do like that one a lot. The only other one I think I would want would to would be able to um have like other people would hate for me to have this, but the unlimited strength, like to be very strong, then I could be doing a lot more that I would have wanted to do. Like I'm using it as a positive thing, okay, but I know other people be like, she does not need to have any power, no, no strength. Yes.

Heather 29:07

No, you don't, but I but I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, yeah. Um honestly mine is always um reading minds. Oh I because I get so I'm I'm a very outgoing, bubbly, and confident person, but I'm also very self-conscious. And whenever somebody makes a comment, I don't always know. I'm I can read faces and I can do that, but like I can't always know exactly because like what the intention of it, like yeah behind it. Like, do you really mean that I'm awesome? Or do you mean I'm do I love that for you? Or do I want that for you? Right, right. So I always I always want to wish that I could read minds um or like hear thoughts. Okay. I don't know if I want to I I reading minds would be the easier way to say it, but I I more want to be able to read thoughts. Right, right. That's a good one. Yeah.

Zia 30:22

I do like that one.

Heather 30:23

Yeah. Yeah, I mean Spider-Man wouldn't be bad. Yeah. But I mean, if that's the case, then if if we had to pick like a superhero, I'd want to be just because I mean which is funny because that's the one that you were just saying that you would want, but but but your bestie is Hulk.

Zia 30:44

You know, my kids call me the Hulk. I know. I I know, it's terrible.

Five‑Minute Loves: Drinks We Choose

Heather 30:49

Can we both be Hulk? Yeah, uh that'd be very dangerous. We're dangerous anyway. I know we I love it. But Nicole wants to be invisible, and I like the invisibility because then you could read minds and do all that anyway, because you just walk in the room and listen. Right. But absolutely, yeah. So, as I said, we I was in New York, so Saturday night, um Eliza and Allie and I had a girls' night at Allie and Jeff's house. Jeff was at a uh cornhole competition. Okay, and but he won by the way. And so when he joined us, um we were talking and he asked how the podcast went, and and you know, because he hadn't listened to it yet. And I said, it's up. And and I said that nobody was that the three of them weren't giving us topics anymore for our five-minute loves. And they were like, Oh no! And they just started rattling them off. And I'm like, why are you rattling them off now? So we have a bunch. So from Jeff. We did. So from Jeff, he wants to know liquor, beer, seltzer, and then I added cider. What do you do?

Zia 32:04

Well, um, I am a jack girl. Um yes, I I uh I am totally a jack girl. Um, I am a Tennessee Squire associate. I I that that I have my little plot of land um at Jack Daniels. So I definitely am a fan of the Jack. So I would have a little liquor. Um I seltzer, I mean, you know, we drink seltzer just because. Um, but I if it's a beer, uh if I do order a beer, it's um usually a Heineken. Um just what I was brought up on. Um I just can't drink Budweiser anymore. Budweiser and I have way too many uh bad days. Um but yeah, I would have to go with the liquor. I know myself on liquor. I you know, I know how much I can handle. So I safely I would have to say that, which is odd, but yeah, what about you?

Heather 33:07

Um, rum. I'm a rummy. Yep. I I like my um spiced rums. I mean, Captain and I go way back. Um I like my Jack too. No, no, no, I don't like Jack. I like crown. I need a crown. If if I'm not gonna have the captain, I want a crown. Yep, okay. Um so I'm generally liquor. Um fat Heather liked beer. Okay.

Zia 33:33

What beer would you um have gone with?

Heather 33:36

Um, I was a Corona girl. Okay. I I was all about the Corona. All right. Um oh we didn't have wine on there.

Zia 33:45

Oh, I we all know Zia does not drink wine.

Heather 33:48

No, I don't like wine.

Zia 33:50

Um I try because I Margaret did order wine when we went for my birthday, and um I that I did like she she did good. She did good.

Heather 34:02

So the wine I like is like sangria. Oh, like the fruity wine. Yeah, I make a good one. We might have to try that out. Um, seltzer, like you said, is good for just sitting around laughing, joking, have a seltzer. Um, but Alec, Eliza's boyfriend, got me into cider. And he and I, whenever there's cider on tap, if there's multiple ciders on tap, or if there's even if it's canned or bottled cider, yeah, he and I will get it and we'll both taste, you know, we'll get different flavors and we'll both taste test it. And I didn't realize I like cider as much as I do. So I think I'm gonna go with liquor and then cider. Okay, so I think cider's the second.

Zia 34:46

I feel like I'm gonna say this wrong, but I know that Leon and Star go to a place up here, and I feel like it's for cider. Ninepin. Nine pin, yes. Okay, I didn't want to say the wrong name, and I was like, I'm gonna say the wrong name. Yes, nope, it's nine pin. They go and they they they did like a little passport at one time.

Heather 35:08

Yes, so you want to hear something really cool about nine pin? Yeah, Eliza's New Jersey bestie. Her name is Rebecca, she's part of Allsteed Farm, okay, in New Jersey, in Chester, and they have an orchard on their farm. They're one of the biggest farms in the area, but anyway, they hired 9 pin to make seltzer for them non-alcoholic. So 9 pin, they bring their apples to 9 pin, and 9 pin brings makes their apples into cider and alcohol and then sends it back. Oh my gosh, yeah, that was so cool. That happened three ish years ago. Rebecca came up with Eliza, came up, and and I know this because of course she's gonna be in the area. She met up with Eliza, but yeah, yeah, so nine pin. We need to tag nine pin.

Zia 35:57

Yeah, absolutely. You're you're the tagger, so tag nine pin.

Five‑Minute Loves: Summer Or Winter Olympics

Heather 36:01

Yep. All right, but yeah, no, Alec and I are all about the good cider. We tried, as a matter of fact, I took a picture of a cider out here that I tried that I never heard of that came from I want to say Maine. I don't remember the name of it, but I took a picture and I sent it to Alec and I said, You need this. Yeah, and he said, Oh, when I come to when I come back to New Hampshire, we'll find it. And I'm like, God, yeah, so yeah, I'm I'm I like I'll do the cider.

Zia 36:24

Yeah, awesome. But I don't drink a lot now because of my meds. I know, and uh, that's that's that really falters on why I don't. Yeah, yeah.

Heather 36:36

So I'll plan it. Like if I know I want to drink, I'll I'll make sure that I don't have my or I won't take my meds. Yeah, the ones I can skip. I won't say I won't take my meds, but I'll take I won't take the ones I cannot take. Yeah, that's a few that I yeah, exactly. Yep. So what's our next one? That came from Jeff too.

Zia 36:56

Yeah, yeah. Summer or winter Olympics. Like, which do you prefer? Where do you go? Which one are you like? Oh, yeah, it's the summer one, or what are you ducking rat?

Heather 37:06

Actually, I'm both, but I have sport in each. Okay.

Zia 37:13

That's how I feel too.

Heather 37:15

I I I can't say that I'm gonna woo and wah, woo and wa? Woo and uh over just one or the other. I like woo-and-wah, but um like wah wa. Oh wawa. Or stort. I love that storz. Um so in the summer Olympics, I'm all about the track and field. Okay. But that makes sense what you did.

Zia 37:38

Right.

Heather 37:38

Right. I'm all about the track and field. I want to watch the sprinters, even though I can't sprint for my life. I want to watch the distance. I want to watch the field events. Oh, the sprinters. Yeah, I I I would stand there. You would sprint laps around me, but you know, I I I want to do the the the track and field. I love the track and field. I like watching it. And sad as it is, I even watched the marathon. Okay. So um, what's your summer?

Zia 38:05

So my summer is the uh beach volleyball or volleyball. I love it. Oh, I do like watching that too. Yeah, those are fun. That has to be my you know go to for summer. Um yeah, yeah, I do like that. And I do like if I have a second, I mean, I I don't know, I guess I'm more winter, but um I do like the diving. Like I love to watch them dive, but I can't swim. I can't swim. So I I think it's amazing that they can do this because I can't swim. Well, you don't need to swim, you just need to move like four feet. You dive and then move four feet and you're out of the water. It's great. No, okay. Um, so what's your winter? My winter, okay. Sadly, sadly, I love the freaking curling. I can't stop watching it. Like, I don't know what it is, but I just can't stop watching it.

Heather 38:53

My sister-in-law, Alexandra, is obsessed with cur with the curling.

Zia 38:57

She loves the curling. Love it. Don't even know what the hell they're doing, but it's great. Um, and then uh stop top notch. Um, but I do like that. I I I won't I don't know the name of it, and I'm so upset. I don't know the name of it, but it's like when they are um they snow ski, walk, whatever, and then they do the shooting. Oh yeah, that's um they do it all together, you know. Yeah, they have to stop, shoot, and then go.

Heather 39:25

I love that. Yeah, it's it's like um, it's like a triathlon type thing. I I don't remember the name of it either. Oh, that's gonna bother me now.

Zia 39:33

Yeah, but I do love that. That I have to watch that one. Um, and then of course, I like this, I like the skating, uh ice skating, but I only I don't like the individual. I don't like the pair.

Heather 39:44

Okay. I don't know why. Okay. So I like the ice skating, all of it. The individual, the pear. Um, I like I I I just love the boundaries they push every single time. Like every year somebody does something that nobody's ever done before. And and eventually I'm like, eventually they're gonna like just have like a hover hovercraft on the ice, I feel like. Um, so I absolutely love the figure skating. And I like watching, and I don't know why, because uh we all know Heather does not do winter sports. Yes, yes, me. Heather does nothing in the winter. We we do uh but I love like the the freestyle skiing and snowboarding. Oh where they come down and they hit the jump and they do like all their flips, and that's cool. I mean, anybody who can see like my hands are going crazy. Um I I will watch that. Like I will stay up past bedtime and watch that and the figure skating.

Zia 40:50

Yeah, but um yeah, so very cool. Yeah, good one. I like that one, and plus it was timed perfect with our Olympics that had happened. That was great.

Heather 41:00

All right, you want to do Eliza's question?

Five‑Minute Loves: Split‑In‑Two Movies

Zia 41:02

I do, I do so I feel like this is more of a you okay. So movies that are split in two, so like Harry Potter, Twilight, Wicked, what you're thinking about that?

Heather 41:15

So I probably have more of an opinion about this one than you do because I read, I read more books. You you know how to read. You can read, you choose to not read. But all those books that or all the movies Eliza was bringing up in the in the com in in our conversation about it are all books that were series. Right. Or like Wicked is not a book that's a series, it's one book and they cut it into two sections, right? But the last Harry Potter book they made into two movies. The last Twilight book, they made into two movies, right? The Divergent series, they broke one of those books into a couple of series or into a couple of book movies. Right. Um I feel like if it's moving the story forward and they don't cut out the book, I'm okay with it. Okay, but it's annoying. Yeah. Um obviously you can't have a four-hour movie.

Zia 42:14

Yeah, well, you can. I mean, look at her. Look at Oliver. Look at Dances with Wolves, right?

Heather 42:20

Three three hours and 45 minutes or whatever it is.

Zia 42:22

If you watch the movie Oliver, which we used to have to watch it all the time because it was my son Alex's favorite movie. Um, when he was little, he'd sit through the whole thing, right? I love that for him. Yeah, and we there was an intermission. There's actually an intermission time in the film. Yeah, so we would get snacks and go to the bathroom and then we'd sit down and watch the next one. Watch the movie. Yeah, yeah. The sound of music does that.

Heather 42:47

Oh, they have an intermission. There you go. Yeah, so uh I'm okay with it as as long as they don't ruin the story or change too much of the story. Yeah, um, yeah, I'm I'm okay with it. It's annoying because then you have to wait a year for it to come out in the movie, but in the same sentence, I'm not a movie goer, so I'm a sit-on-the-couch movier, sort of, but yeah, so on that topic, like I will watch a show or a series on TV, and I will text Star and say, Guess what?

Zia 43:25

I found this really cool show. And she's like, Mom, you know that that's a book. And I'm like, Okay, well, I like it a lot. I must like the book, and she's like, You should read it. And I'm like, And you said I don't need to read it, I just watch the show. Just watch the show. Yep. Yeah, that's not how it works, but yeah, that's that's fine. Speaking of that, did you ask Star about the book I mentioned? I didn't, and I have to. I have it written down right here, and I just have not, yeah. I was I had a bad day yesterday, so I came home. You did have a bad day. Dwindled. Yep. I hid in my home.

Heather 44:02

All right, so let's do our last five minutes. Go ahead. So this one came from Allie. And I know Allie's answer before I even ask the question. But her question was Target or Walmart?

Zia 44:18

Um, for neatness and structure, I love Target. Okay. Um if I have to go hunting for things that my kids need and they're like, go look here, I will go to Walmart.

Heather 44:30

Okay.

Zia 44:31

Yeah.

Five‑Minute Loves: Target Or Walmart

Heather 44:32

Um Walmart for Staples. Okay. They're cheaper. Okay. If if I can't get it at Aldi or the the bulkiness of what I need, Walmart. Um I'll get I'll go to Walmart for for a lot of stuff. Um I will not buy groceries at Target unless it's urgent. You know, I'm dying for something kind of a thing. Yeah. Um, but Target for um Target for like household things, okay, like blankets um and stuff like that, Walmart for storage stuff and and right. Yeah. I'm a both person. Um, I know Allie worked at Target for a long while. So Allie's all about the Target. Yeah. Um, but I I I split between the two.

Zia 45:25

Yeah. But and it's funny you said about the groceries, because I actually went grocery shopping. I I haven't gone grocery shopping at Target in like forever. And usually like it's like what you said, if you need something, right? Okay, I'm out.

Heather 45:40

I need, oh, I need butter. I don't want to run to another store.

Zia 45:43

I'm here, I'll grab butter. Yeah. I actually spent less at Target than I did at my local grocery store. Really? Yep. Well, I don't like your local grocery store. I never even shopped there because they were to me too expensive. I had five meals in my cart, and I couldn't. Wait, that groceries you did at Target? I I did, and I spent less, like way less, than I mean, this was like creamer, sandwich meat, bread, three three full meals, okay, for Michael and I for dinner. Um snacks for school. I bought um blue blackberries, okay. Like this is like like stuff, okay. Wow. Yeah, creamer for my coffee. I got out of there with like $142 of groceries. Dag. All right. And I actually called Michael and I was standing over the cart because it didn't look like a lot either. And I was like, I think I'm coming home. Because I made a list. Right. I got the list done, and I was like, I think I actually am missing something. I think I miss, I think I shopped stupid. I I shopped stupid, you know. Um, and I went home and I was like, no, everything's here. And wow. Yep. I don't know. It was amazing. Interesting. Yeah, and I even bought like a few like extra, like, you know, little goofy things in there. Yeah. That was amazing.

Heather 47:11

Huh.

Zia 47:12

Yep. Wow. Yeah, so I don't know what's going on, but maybe they lowered some prices.

Heather 47:17

Maybe they lowered some of their prices or something in your area. Competitive. Yeah. Yeah, to get more competitive because I know I know the target you went to and I know the grocery store you go to. And I never shopped at your grocery store.

Zia 47:28

I don't know the prices. I haven't bought eggs in a while, but I bought the 18 thing of eggs. It was like two dollars and like 19 cents or two two. Yeah, 230 something. I don't know. It's something like that. Wow. Wasn't over two three dollars.

Heather 47:43

So yep. Wow, that's that's awesome. I know we buy we buy brown eggs and we buy organic. Yep. Because they're very big egg eaters in our house. Yeah. Um, but we spend like three or four on eggs, but we buy them an 18-pack and we buy, like I said, brown and organic. So we we we go up, you know, we upgrade our eggs, but yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's amazing. Well, yeah, I think this is marathon. I think this is a marathon one because we're way overdue. We're way overdue. We're way over, but yep, that's okay. All right. Well, on that note, we still have to re-record our intro and outro. We do talking about that. And and we do. It was pointed out to me last week that we should probably redo it. Yeah. So maybe let's do that this week. We'll see if absolutely see if we can have it redone for next week. But on that note, we'll talk to you soon. Yes, bye guys. Thank you. Bye.