Do We Love... Confusing stuff

Your brain is certain… right up until someone shows you the logo, the movie quote, or the spelling and suddenly you’re arguing with reality. We start with a little behind-the-scenes chaos, a big thank-you for our growing listen count, and a shoutout to UMcanny Sons Comics for hitting their own milestone and building a fun community around comics and card shows.

From there, we get personal for Autism Awareness Month. We share two family stories that highlight how complicated diagnosis can be, especially when “high functioning autism,” ADHD, and older labels like Asperger’s collide. We talk about why saying “on the spectrum” can be helpful in one moment and frustrating in the next, and how one non-medical quiz didn’t diagnose anything but did help open the door to a real conversation with a doctor. If you care about neurodiversity, autism awareness, and respectful language, this part will land.

Then we embrace the title: confusing stuff. Time travel shows like Dark spark a “what if you met your younger self” spiral that turns into glitches in the matrix, doppelgangers, simulation theory, and a full-on Mandela Effect binge. Fruit Of The Loom, Tinkerbell, Oscar Mayer, Sinbad’s Shazam, Star Wars quotes, and more come up as we test what we “know” against what’s actually out there. We wrap with listener prompts and nostalgia questions that take us back to how we grew up versus how kids live now.

If you had a Mandela Effect that made you mad, we want to hear it. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves pop culture mysteries, and leave a review so more curious brains can find us.

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Transcript

Stats, Cats, And Shoutouts

Zia 0:04

Confusing stuff. Thanks. Stuff. You want to change it to things? No, that's okay. Stuff. It's fine. Stuff hyphen things. And if you if you're a true fan and you see our post, you'll be like, we'll probably confuse you.

Heather 0:22

Yeah. We we did pens in our mouths before we even started. I have no idea why, because we did. Yeah. But I was checking our podcast stats this morning. And guess what? What? We had 675 listens through the 20 podcasts that we've dropped.

Zia 0:43

Oh my god. Thank you, listeners. Oh, awesome. It's amazing. Love it. We love that for us. And we love that for you. We love that for them, for everybody listening, because clearly they like us. Oh, my cat's coming. Yep. And then I do have to share another um listener and fan of our uh podcast. Umcanny Sons Comics. They just hit 3,000 followers. 3K, yeah. Wow. So they have a milestone too. So we just wanted to give a shout out to them. I will, you know, uh link them uh in here for all your comic needs. Please go check them out. They are also doing a magic show too for um, I think they're gonna do Yogi Yu-Gi-Oh! And I think they're also doing a show for the uh magic the gathering.

Heather 1:37

So oh, I love that. I used to my brother, one of my brothers, used to own a comic book store in South Jersey, and um it was a comic game shop. And hold on, this cat is driving me baddie. Anyway, he used to have a comic book shop, and he was the only one who was allowed to do the Magic the Gatherings in the early 2000s. So we used to go down and help him out. So that was actually my first introduction to that realm of the world.

Zia 2:11

Yeah, I well, like I'm not sure, you know, don't quote me on the the cards he's selling, but I know he is doing a new show, so check them out. They are on Whatnot, okay, the Whatnot app. He sells from there. Um, and I think they do have an eBay shop, so check them out on Johnny Sun's comics. I will link them below. Yes.

Heather 2:30

So we are still in Autism Awareness Month. Johnny! Johnny Johnny, our favorite, our favorite guest thus far. Shout out. Yes. Um, so you and I both had an autism awareness um story we wanted to tell. Yeah.

Autism Awareness Personal Stories

Heather 2:50

So why don't you go first and then I'll tell mine.

Zia 2:53

I I, of course, my son, my youngest son, uh had been diagnosed with uh, well, it wasn't autism at the time, it was Asperger's. Um, he's high functioning, very high functioning. Um, but it took a long time for them to see that and not remark him as ADHD or something else. So back in the day when it was all new, it was very hard to diagnose. So um he is so great. Um, but there is a pet peeve of his that he What's his pet peeve? I would love to mention please, mom, mention it, mention it correctly. Um pet peeve is that everyone is on the spectrum, and they don't say what you have particularly, it's just you're on the spectrum. And he does not like that because he said, I am high-functioning, you know, astr. That is what I am. Um he also used to say to me, you know, mom, you met me. You could meet someone else with it, and they're totally different. So it's not always the same. So for them saying that, he finds it difficult for them to put them all on the spectrum when there are different levels and degrees and types all on it. So he understands why they did it, but doesn't agree that he should be or other people should be in there um when that is not what they have per se.

Heather 4:24

Yeah, I get that. That's as a group, you know. Yeah, that's I mean, that's true because I don't want to be separated just because I'm 50. All those people are 50, all those people are right, whatever. I mean, that's not how I'm identified. I'm identified as Heather. You're identified as Zia. We're we're you are who you are, you shouldn't have to be lumped into one group. Absolutely. So my story is about my youngest, yeah. Um, and ours is even a little more askew for what especially talking about autism. It's quite askew. Um so she was in college and we were all sitting around the table here in New Hampshire when they first moved out here, and Angela had found this How Autistic Are You quiz. Okay. And um, and apparently it had rated high enough and it was a legit site. I mean, it was it was it was true. Like based off something they're gonna do. Okay, got it. And um I actually have it um and we can link it. I'll I'll send it to you. Um, and um, so we took the quiz. Yeah, and it was rated on a scale, if I remember correctly, but like I said, this was four or five years ago. Um it was rated on a scale of like zero to like two hundred. Okay, and zero, you were not autistic, and I'm putting the air quotes up, and two hundred, you were severely autistic. Okay. So that was the status. So I mean, like I said, it's it's somewhat of a fun quiz, yeah, yeah. But she scored quite high. Yeah. And I scored quite low. And she looked at me, and like I said, there was a we were all taking the quiz. It was me, her, Eliza.

Zia 6:17

Remember you. Exactly. Yeah.

Heather 6:19

And and she couldn't understand her score.

Zia 6:23

Right, right.

Heather 6:25

And so it was within about a month after she took that test that she went to the doctor and told the doctor the stories. Like, I took this test and I scored super high. I don't understand. And so the doctor did some stuff, and come to find out, she is high functioning on the spectrum. Sorry, Alex. Yep, but she also has hyperactivity, ADHD. So there's a new term for that. I don't know if you know this new term. Uh oh, of course there is. Of course there is. It's called A capital A, lowercase U, capital DHD, autistically, hyperactivity disorder. Wow.

Zia 7:08

So that's see, and it's so that just proves Alex's point, okay? Because he, they were like, oh, when he first got diagnosed, they were like, he has ADHD. Yeah. And he did not. He was not hyper, he did not have any of that hyperness. Um, he did have ADD, like me. I so maybe he would be A U D D D D. Oh my god, I know. I don't know. What do you so they added the OCD on that? And I don't even. I actually said that to a kid yesterday. I had to pull the table down in the cafeteria to have uh makeup testing, right? Because we're in testing season. Oh, okay. And uh I said to him, I go, don't sit down. And he was like, Why? I was like, I have to straighten the table out because you're gonna be sitting wonky the whole time you're taking this test, and Maziz OCD is not going to be happy about it. So I was like, get up, I gotta move the table, move it, wait, exactly.

Heather 8:05

So so I am gonna put a disclaimer on this on this link that we're gonna put everybody. Eliza and Alec did it so that they got a zero and they got a 200.

Zia 8:16

Oh, wow.

Heather 8:17

Okay, they were so it is manipulable, of course, as are all tests. However, they parad medically oh no, not even a little bit, but yeah, but it but it opened the door for Angela to go absolutely figure everything out. And and actually she and I sat and talked for a good long time about being able to bring this up on our podcast.

Zia 8:37

Yeah.

Heather 8:38

And initially she wanted Alex. Initially, when we first started the podcast, she didn't want to be brought up at all. And I always just brought her up as the youngest or my daughter or whatever. But she and I talked about it and she's like, is autism awareness? You can do it. So props to Angela for that's what Alex said too.

Zia 8:58

He said, You know what to discuss, mom.

Heather 9:00

Exactly. And that's what she said. So um, but yeah, so I will I will send you the link, Z, so you can add it in. Um, and like I said, it's nothing medical, it is it is a fun link. It came off the wired website. Yep. So take that as you will. It was just a fun link we took or fun quiz we took, but it helped us figure out what to do.

Zia 9:20

We we uh we are not doctors and we don't play with them on TV.

Heather 9:25

Exactly. Exactly. You know, Chandler tells me that all the time. He's like, I'm not a doctor, but I will tell you my little AI bot here.

Zia 9:35

Love my AI bot. So you guys are probably wondering how we got into our title for today, confusing stuff. Um, so I've been watching a show on uh TV, I believe it's Netflix, and it's called Dark. It is in German. Um, and they do say just watch it in German with

The Spectrum Label Debate

Zia 9:55

subtitles, you know, English subtitles. Because if you yeah, so if you don't, yeah, Bitta. No, that's Rush, but bitas, please. Yeah. So uh if you if you don't get me into my accents now, um if you want a good show to watch, definitely dark is it, it's a little bit of time travel with different um, you know, like there's a younger me and an older me. Um so like parallel universes, not just one, the other one. Um, and the other one we were watching, Michael and I is called Monarch. And we got into this conversation because in Monarch, they had a scene where the older version of himself was talking to the younger version of himself, and the younger version kept saying, Oh my god, you are like me. He's like, Yeah, I am you, right? So that was a shocker for younger version to hear. So I had said to Michael, I was like, What if the older version of you meet met the younger version of me and vice versa? And he was like, huh. He goes, you just be like, there's a creepy old man creeping around me, and I don't know, I'm calling the cops. He goes, that's what I would say, right? He'd like, you're so suspicious that you would be like, don't even come near me, I'll karate chop you down. So I was like, Well, I said, I would I would be able to convince you. And he goes, What? I said, I'd just be like 50 years old, you'd be like 17, 18. I'd be like, Look, this is when I started dating you. So if you can't find me, you gotta marry me again. I was and he was like, our brains think so differently. Oh my goodness, I love that. Would you really? I was like, no. I said, I would have to guide him and be like, see her? Don't think she's weird, go date her, you know. Go talk now. Go talk now. Right, right. So it just got us into like, where's the glitches in the matrix? What about some Mandela effects? So we went down a rabbit hole, Heather. Oh, did we go down a rabbit hole? So go ahead.

Heather 12:19

So I'm gonna tell my funny one first. So Rich is all about the computers and the programming and the architecting and all that. So I was in the shower one day and I came out of the shower, and Rich goes, Quick, quick, come here. You gotta see this. So I go running into the living room to see whatever fascinating thing he wanted me to see. And I look at the TV and I go, Is that Jeff? Jeff is Allie and Jeff, my friends. And he goes, No, that is, and he gave the guy's YouTube name, I don't know, or YouTube channel, I don't know what it is. And he's like, last I knew Jeff was a machinist and not an AI programmer or whatever they do. And I'm like, whoa. So I grabbed my phone and I took a picture and I sent it to Jeff and Allie, and I was like, I found your doppelganger, because doppelgangers are technically glitches in the matrix. You're not supposed to see your doppelganger self in your universe.

Zia 13:23

Yep. So do you does anyone ever say to you, like, hey, you look like so-and-so on TV, or I I met somebody like you? I I've had I've had that a couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. What's yours? Well, I get two. So I and and I know when I gain and lose weight. This is how I know, too. So people will say to me, hey, you it was always demi more. When I was younger, it was always demi more. Oh, I could see that. Yeah, and if I lose a lot of weight, because I had the short hair, the glasses, right? And one funny story, we were on base one time, McDonald's on base, Norfolk, Virginia. And the person we come around with our Hyundai Excel. Okay, I'm just placing this for you. Yeah, Michael's in uniform. I'm sitting next to him, really short hair, glasses, like Demi Moore and Ghost. And the girl would not give Michael the food because she goes, Is that Demi Moore? And Michael Oh my goodness. No, it is not Demi Moore. She does get that a lot. And all of a sudden she's just standing there with the bag, and I go, Yes, I left Bruce Willis for a

A Quiz That Opened Doors

Zia 14:35

Navy guy and a Hyundai XL. Yes.

Heather 14:38

Sorry, I love Michael, but I would not be leaving Bruce Willis.

Zia 14:41

Right. So I was like, yep, that's what I'm saying. And for a baby girl, it's not in the news yet, but I had a baby girl. So so stupid, you know. Um, now if I gain a little weight, I get another demi, demi lavato. Oh my goodness. So I'm like, there's two demis out there, and I get both of them. Yeah.

Heather 15:05

I got um it was when I was dark haired and fat. I'm sorry. Had on my weight. Thank you. Oh, wait. No, let me do it like the bus driver called me.

Zia 15:19

Fluffy. Fluffy. Fluffy. That's one of Margie's favorite comedians. He says fluffy all the time.

Heather 15:25

Yes, but it wasn't fluffy. If Fluffy called me fluffy, I would be honored. This was a not nice person in the transportation department at your school district who called me fluffy.

Zia 15:37

I know who you're talking about.

Heather 15:38

You do know who I'm talking about.

Zia 15:41

Don't like them anyway, so whatever.

Heather 15:43

Nope. I would say nice person, but that's pushing it. But anyway, back in those days, I can't remember who it was, but it was it was like a famous like Russian person. Oh and I'm like, I'm not Russian, I'm nowhere near Russian.

Zia 15:59

Yeah. Well, that's a Charlie. I give my dog Charlie a Russian accent, but she's not you do give her Charlie, yeah.

Heather 16:05

So have you ever seen the floating plane when you're driving?

Zia 16:09

Oh god, yes. And I know they explain it, but you can't explain it when what did you say? You guys were in a different direction.

Heather 16:16

We were coming, we were coming south, and the plane was going east to Boston, and the plane didn't move. We crossed a bridge and the plane stayed over the bridge the entire time. How is that possible?

Zia 16:29

I know. So with with our next little uh section here of Mandela effects, I did bring some up to some people. Oh you're echoey. You know what? Yeah, you know why? I just took it off. Oh that's why I wanted to give you an effect for this Mandela effect.

Heather 16:51

You wanted the echo for Mandela, Mandela.

Zia 16:53

Mandela, right? Um I did ask, I did ask some uh people at work. Oh a few of them, and they were like, Oh, yeah, no, I agree with you. And I'm like, Yeah, no, it didn't happen.

Heather 17:06

All right, so wait, let's define the Mandela effect for those that don't know it.

Zia 17:10

And so the Mandela's doing that because it's so good you're doing that because a lot of people did not know what it was. Exactly.

Heather 17:18

So the official term, the Mandela Effect, is about Nelson Mandela, the South African president-ish. So, what it is is some people remember him being reported as dying in prison in the 80s. Then all of a sudden, he became president of South Africa and then he passed away in the 90s. He became president of South Africa, and then he passed away in 2013. The Mandela effect started before the 2013 when he passed away. But it started with the fact that people remember in the 80s him dying in prison. And then got out of prison, supposedly, reincarnated as himself, became president again, and then died again. Died in 2013. Exactly. So I am of the world that remembers him dying in the 80s because I remember it taking over the TV one night because apparently it was news that we had learned some dude in South Africa died. Yep.

Zia 18:24

Didn't care about it when I was a kid. I remembered it that way too.

Heather 18:28

So with that said, I'm gonna hit you with the one I hit you with, and you said no. Okay. Oscar Meyer. You know, the hot dogs, the wieners, the baloney.

Zia 18:41

We sang the song. Yep. Sing me the song.

Heather 18:50

So we know it as M-E-Y-E-R, but apparently it's M-E-Y. Go ahead. You hit me with the one you got.

Zia 19:01

You got me with so the Tinkerbell. Did Tinkerbell dot the eye? Of course she didn't. She stuck her little crazy in the camera screen. Was the butt in your face? But in the face and all, and she ticked. Yep, her little uh smart ass look. Yes, absolutely. Yep, yeah.

Heather 19:20

No, she didn't do it.

Zia 19:21

Didn't do it.

Heather 19:23

No here's the infamous one. Is there a cornucopia on the fruit of the loom? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Zia 19:33

Not anymore, I guess, but yeah, but there was. That's all my dad used to wear. My dad Pete used to wear that all the time.

Time Travel Shows Spark The Theme

Zia 19:40

Did he? All right, what about Pikachu?

Heather 19:44

Does he have black on the tip of his tail?

Zia 19:51

I said yes. I said yes, but apparently he does not. He does not. Nope. Nope. We're all wrong. I like the next one. Did did Ed McMahon, Ed McMahon, ever work for Publisher Clearinghouse?

Heather 20:07

Of course he did. He used to go with the balloons and the great big monster-sized check and knock on your door.

Zia 20:14

Liar. He never did. Never did. Shenanigans. All right. Did you ever see the movie Shazam? Oh, I hate this one. Yes. I mean Sinbad was in it, right? Sinbad. Sinbad was in it. Yep.

Heather 20:31

Yeah, no, there's no such movie as Shazam. Yeah. It's Kazam. Yep. And it doesn't star Sinbad. It stars Shaquille O'Neal. Yep. Total bullshit. Total bullshit. Yep. I'm skipping the next one. Don't do the next one because that's gonna fall into my surprise for you. Okay.

Zia 20:51

Um Shaggy. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo? Did he have an Adam Adam's apple? Of course, because I wanted to have a Heather's apple like his. Yeah. I always said, What the hell is that on him? But yeah, nope, doesn't have one. Nope. Nope.

Heather 21:08

What about the wicked witch of the West from Wizard of Oz? This was so stupid. When she's standing there in the castle and she's sending her little monkeys. Yeah, so stupid. What does she say? Yeah. Fly, my pretties, fly, my pretties.

Zia 21:24

Nope. Yeah. Nope. All she says is fly, fly, fly. So stupid. This one made you mad. This one made me so mad. And I'm I'm gonna search, man, because I swear to god, this shit is stupid. Um, Looney tunes. It's all O's. Yeah, all O's, because you had people popping their head through the O's, right? Exactly. Yeah, no, bullshit. They said Nope, now it's Looney musical tunes. Musical tunes, T-U-N-E-S, yep, tunes. That's total bullshit. I'm gonna find it. I'm finding it. Go for it. Bullshit. Curious story. George. Oh, this one got people at work too. Does he have a tail? We were all agreeing he had a tail. He has to have a tail. He's a monkey. Yep, nope. No tail. No tail for you. This one you and I debated about. Yeah, and then I checked the box.

Heather 22:18

You did.

Zia 22:20

And so did you know.

Heather 22:21

And then you went with me, even though the box was different. So it's a show that takes place in New York City. It's supposed to be 20 somethings women. Yep.

Zia 22:32

It's called Sex Blank Blank City. Right. Yep. You're all thinking it, and we're gonna prove you're wrong.

Heather 22:40

It's not sex in the yeah. It's sex and the wrong city.

Zia 22:48

Wrong.

Heather 22:49

I'll take the voice on that one. Wrong.

Zia 22:51

My box downstairs, it's lying. It has to be. They the well they even swapped it when they switched. They swapped it, absolutely.

Heather 22:58

Yeah.

Zia 22:59

So the Metropolitan Man, monocle or no monocle? Of course he had a monocle. Of course he had a monocle. I have the game. Oh my god, here she goes. See, we just go down rabbit holes even when you guys are on with us.

Heather 23:13

Eliza's house! Dad and have it!

Zia 23:16

Oh man!

Heather 23:17

Sorry, I have to run around the corner. Yeah. Alright, so now I'm gonna hit you with the one that you want. Some new ones. First one is Luke. Yes. Who is Luke's father and how does he tell him?

Zia 23:33

Fuck me. Um I ask your father.

Heather 23:42

Nope. No.

Zia 23:43

I know.

Heather 23:44

It's no, I am your father, which is absolutely wrong. Total bullshit. Alright, I have another Star Wars one. Go ahead. C3PO's leg. Damn it. Yeah. Go ahead. He has two. Yep. He's a gold machine. He's a gold droid. Are both his legs gold?

Zia 24:05

So I'll explain that one. There is there was a toy, and I only know this because Pete had it down in the basement. There is a toy that he had one silver leg.

Heather 24:22

Shenanigans. It's always been silver. Oh, I looked down like I was wearing my shirt.

Zia 24:27

He's been silver or the one leg?

Heather 24:30

No, his one leg is supposed to be naked or silver.

Zia 24:33

Silver. Okay. But that's that's what I thought. Like I thought.

Heather 24:37

Oh, see now I always saw them as two gold legs. Okay. All right. Here are the secret ones I found that I'm going to blow your mind on.

Zia 24:46

She just liked my uh reactions, so that's to shock me. Alright, you ready?

Heather 24:51

Oh, go ahead. Chucky. The worst movie I've ever seen in my life. I hate Chucky. Oh, it's Margaret's favorite. What's Chucky wear? He wears an overall. Yeah. What color? It's blue. It's not multicolor? Or stripes? I thought that was the shirt. Nope, it's the overalls of multicolor. What the frig?

Doppelgangers And Visual Glitches

Heather 25:20

Yep, Chucky's outfit. He wears a multicolor. Star's probably gonna be like, Mom, I can't believe you didn't know that.

Zia 25:29

No, he wears blue. He looks like the doll my buddy. Right.

Heather 25:33

Yeah.

Zia 25:33

I thought that's what he was based off of. He was okay. But now apparently he's in multicolor overalls. Yeah, no. There's a lot I want to say to that, and I'm gonna shut up.

Heather 25:44

All right. Let's go with let's go with another popular one.

Zia 25:48

Okay. Silence of the lambs. Oh, go ahead. You're you're knocking on all my my stuff. That's uh what do you think I researched? I know, go ahead. When we see Clarice, what does he say? He he says um hello, Clarice. He says good evening, Clarice. Oh, motherfucker, whatever.

Heather 26:14

I wish I wish we did audio or video podcast. The look on your face just is like go ahead.

Zia 26:24

This is bullshit. Freddie. Yes, he's right here in my room. Yes, go ahead. Where's his glove? What where is it? It's on his hand and it's on his right hand. Wrong, left. Okay, so I'm looking at him in the fucking picture that I took with my family, and he's got it on his right hand. He's got it. I'm gonna take a picture of this picture and I'm gonna show you people. He himself has it on his right hand. He always goes like this against the wall.

Heather 27:10

This is so funny. So this one is defined. I will give you the I will give you the actual answer on this one. It is on his right hand, but when the movie does its recording, it mirrors it. I have the picture up here. So in some scenes, it is appears to be on his left hand because of the mirroring of the film.

Zia 27:33

So the picture, the advertisement is on his right hand.

Heather 27:37

It is on his right hand. But if you watch the movie, there are times when it appears on his left. So it's not a true Mandela, it's more of an editing error, but it gets lumped into the.

Zia 27:51

So we're gonna go to the shining. Oh man, you're just hitting them all. Go ahead. I I told you I did my research well. This is good. This is good.

Heather 28:00

The opening scene.

Zia 28:01

Okay.

Heather 28:02

The car driving up the mountain. Yes? Yeah. Do we ever look inside the car or not?

Zia 28:13

I'm gonna say no.

Heather 28:16

You are correct.

Zia 28:17

Okay. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen anyone.

Heather 28:20

I don't recall it. I think in the opening scene, you are not, it's just watching it, and they go up. You're watching Jack go up to his interview and we don't go in the car. No. The next scene when the whole family is going, I think we're in the car. Yeah, yeah. Right. It's the same car, so you know it in hindsight, you know it's the same.

Zia 28:39

So do you think that they're just confusing the theme?

Heather 28:42

I'm I'm wondering that, but but it's it's

Mandela Effect Definition And Origins

Heather 28:45

uh it falls under the thing. Wow. But there's a second one for the shining. Okay. When Jack is at the door breaking down the door, yeah, he says, Here's Johnny. What does Wendy scream?

Zia 29:03

A lot. No, I'm just joking. I'm gonna let me think about that. She I thought you should just say go away.

Heather 29:14

Okay. The theory is she screams jack. Oh but she doesn't. She doesn't scream anything, she just screams.

Zia 29:26

Yeah, she was just screaming. I can't remember having a definitive line. Okay. Yeah. The movie The Fly. This is great shit. This is great. What is goldblum? Goldblum. Goldblum, yeah. Oh, so we're talking newer one. Okay, go ahead.

Heather 29:46

What does he say?

Zia 29:48

Oh, I don't know. I uh there's a lot of things that I could think of that they could have screwed up on this one. Uh, because it's the newer one, not the old one. No, he's talking about the 58 one. I know he the only line that I always like joked about was when he's like he goes to eat that then, he's like a girl. Okay. Um but that's all I don't really Alright.

Heather 30:16

Well, supposedly everybody knows he says help me.

Zia 30:19

Oh, help me, yes, as the little the little thing, the little bug, yes. But they don't say that. Okay, so it's probably because of the they say that in the old one. Yeah. Maybe? Yep, yep. All right because I think my I think I I used to joke about that with Pete. Happy, happy. Yeah.

Heather 30:41

Right. So all right, you ready? The last one. This one got me. And I think and I think it's I think it's a Mandela effect. But I don't. You'll understand why.

Zia 30:54

All right. In the movie The Gremlins. Oh god, yes. Here we go, Michaela. Gizmo. He's the cute little dude. Yeah.

Heather 31:06

What is he? He's a Mogwai. Okay. Most people say he is a gremlin. No, he's a Mm-hmm.

Zia 31:14

But he's not. He's a Mogwai. Yes. Yep. Alright. Yay, I did that one for Michaela. Alright. Um more. Okay, go ahead.

Heather 31:32

Uh, hold on.

Zia 31:34

I have to think that after a whole week of testing and me being frustrated, this was beautiful that you picked all these movies. It put me in a good place. Snowite. Oh Jesus. Go ahead.

Heather 31:49

Queen. Looking at the mirror. What is her line?

Zia 31:57

You're evil queen.

Heather 31:58

That's why this one's on my list for Z.

Zia 32:00

Oh, God. Okay, so she's like mirror mirror on the wall. Who's don't stop?

Heather 32:06

No, she does not say that. Stop it.

Zia 32:10

She says magic mirror on the wall. Oh, fuck everybody. That is not true. That is not true. They put stuff all over the place. It was mirror mirror on the wall. All right. I don't think I can do any more. I think I'm gonna hurt your brain if you keep going. All right. Just go live another life, peoples.

Heather 32:30

All right.

Zia 32:31

Live another life.

Heather 32:32

What about the New Jersey one that Rich knew about, who's not from New Jersey? Yeah, Michael too. And Michael knew about both New Yorkers. Both New Yorkers were from New Jersey and didn't know it.

Zia 32:44

You want to do that one? Statue of Liberty, New York or New Jersey.

Heather 32:51

So I have the actual textbook answer. Yeah. But my answer growing up is she lives in New Jersey but faces New York.

Zia 32:59

Yep, that's what

Pop Culture Mandela Effects Rapid Fire

Zia 33:00

I hear too.

Heather 33:01

But the actual answer? She's in New York. She is in New York, but the entire rest of the island is in New Jersey. So you come into New Jersey, boom, and then you go see the statue. Yep. So then there's another one that we didn't hear about the Black Tom explosion.

Zia 33:23

Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. We did not know that. And I guess we really weren't supposed to.

Heather 33:28

I don't know. I guess not. So in 1916, there was an explosion with two million pounds of war materials packed into train cars.

Zia 33:39

Yeah.

Heather 33:39

And it blew up in the Black Tom rail yard, which is now in Liberty State Park in Jersey. Yep. Um, I don't know about you, but we spent a lot of time learning about Hamilton and all that kind of stuff.

Zia 33:52

Yep. Absolutely. Where was this? I don't know. We didn't get a lesson on that. And we should have, I guess, but we didn't. So to us, it doesn't exist. I don't know. I don't know.

Heather 34:03

And based on time, we're at 30 minutes already. Did we want to do the next topic or do we want to skip it and do another fun day?

Zia 34:10

Let's uh let's do it. Or do you want to let's save it for a fun day? Let's do it. You want to do it? We can yeah, let's do it. All right. I'm good. We had a logo show last week and people loved us, so you know, we make it we make it fun. All right.

Heather 34:26

All right, I'm gonna ask you a question then.

Zia 34:28

Go ahead. Do we live in a simulation? Well, there's always glitches in my matrix, so I feel like sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. Um I feel that sometimes I feel weird when I'm driving in my car. I feel like maybe everything around me moves and I'm not, obviously. That's not true. My car knows where to go, so sometimes are you looking 100% at the time at the road?

Heather 34:55

You know, when I'm in car karaoke mode, be well before my voice issues. When I'm in full karaoke car mode, my car just goes autopilot. Um, I feel like we live in a simulation too. For example, there's a bus driver at your school district, yeah, who is a friend of mine. Yep. I mean, we're not besties, but we were we were good friends at work. I went to a diner or a brewery right around the corner from my house here in New Hampshire. Yep. He was sitting at a table. But he wasn't. He wasn't. So I said to Rich, I said, Oh my gosh, that guy looks like a bus driver that I know. And Rich's response is they only have so many body mods that they can do in our video game. Eventually they start repeating themselves. That's right. And so we laughed about that, but I feel like that's true. I feel like I'm walking around New Hampshire seeing people from New York that have or New Jersey, yeah, or from my army world that have no business. Sorry. Yep.

Zia 36:01

That have no business being in New Hampshire. That's right. Yep. Yep. I know. I feel like sometimes like I'll hear a name and then I'm like, oh yeah, I know them, and I don't because it I'm not in New Jersey. It's a New Jersey name. It's not uh, I mean, I know people can have names, but it's not the same name, right? You know, um, last names, of course, you know, it's very random, but when you have the same exact name, sometimes my brain goes, What the hell happened? What are we talking about? That's a person I know from Jersey, not from New York. What's happening?

Heather 36:36

Yep, seriously, yeah, a little weird, a little weird, very weird, not a little, very yeah, yeah. I'm I'm I'm weirded out about that a little bit.

Zia 36:45

Yeah. So we're gonna go to our five-minute love. TikTok, TikTok.

Heather 36:53

I'm gonna write the time down and then he's gonna say we aren't right. Yep, yep. That's a Mandela effect. That is, it is because we're always right. We do start our five-minute loves when we say that. It's just because he can't figure out when to put his TikToks in. That's right.

Zia 37:08

So we we had some five-minute loves that we came up with, um, but we're gonna go right to our listeners.

Heather 37:15

So I'm gonna do the funniest one first because it's just because it's my family and I just love everybody. So I posted on Facebook and Instagram like we were doing. I'm sorry, I've been fighting my voice and haven't been on top of this. I'm back-ish. So this week I posted on Facebook and Eliza responded with laugh track or no laugh track before the week came up. Somehow my dad found it and commented that he likes no laugh track. So props to Ed. No laugh track. Love it. Love it. So, what about you, Z? Laugh track or no laugh track?

Zia 37:54

No laugh track. It prompts people to laugh falsely, and I don't want false reaction.

Heather 38:02

I don't care.

Zia 38:03

Yeah, yeah.

Heather 38:04

Friends has a laugh track, one of my favorite shows. Yeah, but other shows don't have it, and I like them too.

Zia 38:12

So I'd rather like just make up my own mind whether it's funny or not. And I know Star, uh, you know, we'll watch a comedian, and we are our own laugh track in this household. So we'll start laughing, and she's like, That's just not funny.

Heather 38:27

That's just right. Right. Like, I've I've purposefully made myself laugh at the laugh track points, and sometimes I'm like, this isn't funny. But then I'll laugh at something that's not a laugh track. So I'm I'm totally indifferent. If there's a laugh track on the show, whatever. If there's not, okay.

Zia 38:43

Yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm good either way. Don't make me do what I don't want to do.

Heather 38:49

No, I'm still so it was funny when Eliza and I had this debate. We had this debate a couple of a couple of years ago, and um I said Alec was there. We were watching TV and the and there was a show on that had a laugh track, and every time they laughed, Alec and I would like epically laugh. And it was bothering Eliza so much, but we were having so much fun. So yeah, we haven't sat and watched TV like that, I think, since that day, Eliza won't let us do that anymore. See, she doesn't think things are funny either, like Star. She doesn't, though. She is anti-laugh track, yeah, yeah. So um, all right, you want to do Nicole's?

Zia 39:24

Yeah, absolutely. So, do you fall asleep with the TV on or off? If you're watching it in bed, I guess.

Heather 39:31

So I have a here's into my personal world, people. I have a no TV in the bedroom room. The bedroom is for sleeping and other things. Yep. Not watching TV.

Zia 39:45

Yeah.

Heather 39:46

Um, what other things, Heather? No, I'm just joking. We are gonna have a definite E on this episode because um, no, um, I don't like TVs in my bedroom. Um, yeah, however, I do like to fall asleep to a meditation.

Zia 40:03

Yeah.

Heather 40:03

So I do like the sound of the meditation. Um, so I'm gonna say in our own way, we have the TV on, but we don't have a TV. It's on my phone and it's a meditation. So it's sound, but it's not.

Zia 40:18

Yeah, I wouldn't call that TV. Yeah, what about you? Um, I have a TV in my room if I'm sick. It's the only time I watch it. Or like if I'm cleaning the room and then I want background noise, you know, just because like if Michael's doing something else, I just need to hear something.

Heather 40:37

Right.

Zia 40:37

I'll that those are literally the only like I won't say, Oh, I gotta go to bed and then turn the TV on. Okay, yeah. No, I try not to. It's purposeful for if I'm sick because I'm in there for like a week, if you know, if I have a flare up. Um, and then if I'm just cleaning, I need some background noise and I don't want to, you know, yeah, talk. Like I don't want to talk, but I need talking. Right. No, I get it.

Heather 41:03

No, I agree. I'm not I'm not keen. No, yeah.

Zia 41:06

I would I should not fall asleep to it. I would not fall asleep to it unless I'm sick.

Heather 41:11

Yeah. Um, I have fallen asleep. Like, if I can't sleep, I'll turn on like Family Guy and let Family Guy talk in my ear, and I'll I won't open my eyes, I'll just let him talk because it's stupid slapstick comedy and it's funny, but I will fall asleep to like that. That's if I really can't sleep. Um, but no, generally,

Statue Of Liberty And Hidden History

Heather 41:35

generally I just do a meditation or a you know a sound wave or something. Yep. You want to do Kate's? Uh go ahead, you do Kate's. Okay. I did Nichols. Oh, that's true. Sorry. Um, so Kate asked us, what's a movie line you can almost receive, recite line for line?

Zia 41:56

Oh, there's so many. I think our whole household is run on movie lines. Um I just quoted Ferris Bueller last night before I went to bed because um I said to Michael, I was like, Do you have a little kiss for dudes? And you know, because we always say that, and because we were young dating. Um, and I was like, Oh my god, you would have done that if, you know, you picked me up and I wasn't supposed to be out of school. Um, but I was gonna say, you know, saying goodnight to Michael, and I was like, Do you have a little kiss for daddy? And uh yeah, so I quote movies all the time. I quote movies to the kids at school, little like cartoon things. They think I'm crazy, but I do. Um, some lines they don't know because they're older lines from when my kids were watching like SpongeBob and stuff.

Heather 42:48

So because I'm a bitch. In Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yeah. The say fairer shirt. Yep. Um where is it seen?

Zia 43:07

The kids in the school. Is it on a billboard? No, it's not on a billboard. It is on a billboard. I was gonna say the dad looks up like this. He's driving the car and he looks up like. Oh, okay. Because that's I typed in while you were saying that I typed in Ferris Bueller Mandelas. There's a few, but some of them are stupid. He does because the father's driving home and he sees it and he looks up and he's like, What the hell is happening?

Heather 43:33

Um wait. People recall them swimming at Ferris's house. The hot tub scene takes place at Cameron's house in the woods. Yeah, Cameron's house. Yeah, I was gonna say that's not Ferris's house. No, that is he doesn't stay at home, so why would you be swimming at his house? So, all right, so those aren't real mandelas. Sorry. Um don't mess with my Ferris Bueller, man. I know that's I had to do it, you know I did. There was a few others like a napkin.

Zia 44:06

A napkin? Oh, when they go to the restaurant.

Heather 44:09

Yeah, and it's in the restaurant scene, Principal Rod Rooney is trying to catch Ferris and remembered differently by many people. Um they remember where he throws a wad of napkins into a trash can, misses the worker rolls their eyes. Many viewers report that this small scene has vanished in modern streaming videos.

Zia 44:29

Damn, yeah, because um it's I believe that he had a bloody nose. And when he gets on the bus, because the bus driver pulls up and she's like, Do you um, you know, want to ride Mr. Rohny? And he's like, ow. And he's like, he like stuffs up his nose like this bloody. And then I think that's where the help is coming in. And then he gets on,

Do We Live In A Simulation

Zia 45:00

and then the little girl's like, Do you want a gummy bear? They're nice and warm because they're sitting in my pocket. Oh, all right. So um I guess we answered that. If I keep reciting lines from the movie, yeah.

Heather 45:13

Um, there's a ton of movies I can. Um, but to name one, yeah, I know. Man with the iron mask.

Zia 45:21

Really?

Heather 45:22

That's my all-time favorite movie. Okay. I love, I mean, Porthos. Yeah, yep. I love the Three Musketeers, and that movie has Leonardo and the Three Musketeers. I mean, I agree. Good movie. So I think I think that movie, which is strange because most people wouldn't recite that one, but I can do that one. I could probably like bang it out right now. Um, yeah.

Zia 45:49

I think that would be the only one I can do movie start to finish. Yeah, and I mean, well, I guess as I'm watching them, like I could definitely do Moonstruck. Moonstruck. I was sitting there, I know what they're gonna say, but Moonstruck, yeah. Like, I mean, we since it's not a clean show, I'm just gonna, you know, throw out my yippiekay, motherfucker. You know, that's that's that's a great line. Love it, love it. Uh I use that quite often. You do that, but I I do. Well you know, what are you gonna do? So Vince is back with us. Yep.

Heather 46:25

Other than technology, yeah, what feels the most different?

Zia 46:30

Yeah. Between how you grew up and how kids grow up today. Well I I work in elementary school.

Heather 46:42

My first my first answer is just playing outside. Yeah. I mean, I was outside all day. Yeah. Came home to eat and went right back right back out. Yeah. I guess that's the big one. Like, I mean, I would ride my bike. I wasn't allowed to leave our four-mile radius town. Right. So I played in mineshafts. Yep. Had no idea I was in the mine shafts. Yep. Hindsight. I guess I probably shouldn't have been in them.

Zia 47:10

Yep. I mean, I I work at an elementary school. I see a lot every day where I just kind of stop and say, Oh my god, I would never have done that growing up or speaking to adults the way they do. That's a huge one for me. The way they dress. Uh you know what? I don't knock the dressing thing sometimes just because the only thing I think is you're they're growing up too soon. So like I would have never gone with well, I would have never gone, but I would have never gone with my parents to go get my nails done at an extreme length in second or first grade. I wouldn't have had long nails in second and first grade. That's the first thing. Um, but other, you know, they're getting high heels in elementary school, not when you're, you know, going to your prom and you've got your first, you know, dance in maybe eighth grade and you get your heels or something like that. There's like nothing for them to look forward to growing up. It's just like ev everybody wants a friend as a as a child and they want to do what they did, but they don't remember. I feel like they're just not remembering what stage of life they do they did it at. So they just want to push it all out there and be like, oh my god, we're gonna get you your first heels. Oh my god, we're gonna get you your first bra, even if they don't have anything yet, you know? It's like, what why are we rushing this? Like, let it happen. Yeah, I agree. And then experience it at that moment. I've never pushed any of that stuff on star growing up. Like,

Listener Five Minute Loves

Zia 48:50

I the kids' stuff I did, I gave her appropriately like my cabbage patch. I was like, use late with my cabbage patch. Here is mommy's toy, you know, or even the boys. I had some toys for them that I had, like my cars and stuff, and I was like, you know, I did want to give a shout out though to my um my crew that I grew up on the street with because I had like eight boys down the street. Um, I didn't have any girls on my street, so I had to climb the trees. I had to, you know, burp the alphabet. I climb the trees. Yeah, but it's like you gotta burp the alphabet before you can come down the tree. Yeah, you know, those kinds of things. Who can spit the farthest off the street? Right. So it's like I do want to give a shout out to them because I know, you know, a lot of them listen to us, and a lot of them, you know, are on here that they literally helped me deal with all the boy issues in my building. And the other day, I really was getting like a little perturbed about this one student and the patience that I kept because I was like, I've been through this. You can't bully me. I got bullied, like, you know, not bullied, my sorry guys, you you didn't bully me, but you were like, you know, she can't do this. Let's see if she can do this. I can do a watch. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it's that kind of resilience I appreciated from them that now in my job, I'm like, guys, this is not a big deal, you know? Yep. So shout out to my little crew that was on Woodside F.

Heather 50:22

I think the other thing that I miss or is very different is the TV aspect. Yeah. That's I can remember, I can remember in my house we rotated who picked the TV show. And if it if if your show was an hour, you got your hour show, but that meant the next sibling got two half hour shows or an hour show. And and if you ran out of night, it picked up the next night from where the rotation was. I love it. I feel like I feel like people don't do that now as much. I feel like I feel like kids now are grown up as bedroom kids where we were living room kids. Yep. Does that yeah, am I saying that right?

Zia 51:05

I mean absolutely because well, see, and then that gets into our discussion. We always have like parents raising how they're raising, right? Like we raised our kids to be like, we're gonna watch Jeopardy and you know, Wheel of Fortune together, we're gonna have hot chocolate together, you know.

Heather 51:24

Go to your room and play and do what you want to do, but it's time now.

Zia 51:27

This is family time. You need to come do it. Yeah, yep, yep. And and and I'm so proud of my son and daughter-in-law because they actually are doing that too. So it's like, you know, when we're here, the kids are here, they're like joining in at the table, and yeah, we're talking to them at the table, and then if they go play, we're really in there playing. Right.

Heather 51:51

I mean, they're their babies, so but it'll change too. Right. But that's how we did it. We would go to my grandma's every Wednesday for dinner, yeah, and that's what it was. You sat at the table and you joined in the conversation, yeah, period. Maybe

Growing Up Then Versus Now

Heather 52:05

toward the end, we could go outside and play, or we can go play in the in the in the family room or whatever, but that would only be like while they were cleaning up dinner. But while everybody was at the table talking, we sat there and talked, no matter how boring it was. Absolutely. You had to be there. So I think I think other than technology, there is a lot of differences. So keep that in mind, Vince with Charlie. Don't worry about Charlie.

Zia 52:28

Oh, yeah. Make him make him be a good boy. Yeah, yeah, and enjoy the things within the book. Exactly.

Heather 52:36

Exactly. I'm gonna do a quick shout-out too. Sure. I'm going to see Nicole and Vince and John and Mike. They they aren't advid listeners, but they they listen, but um, we're going down to see them because Dominic, my nephew, has his senior play, his last drama today. Awesome. So we're going down, we're leaving actually in a in a little bit after we post. We're gonna hit the road and go down, watch his play at seven o'clock at night, and then do the four-hour drive home.

Zia 53:10

I love it.

Heather 53:11

So we'll get home at three in the morning, but that's okay. Yeah, enjoy. It's his last play. Um, so yeah, they're doing Mama Mia. Oh, I love it. Down at Wapinger Falls High School. Yeah. Enjoy. Yeah, that's gonna be so much fun. But on that note, we should wrap up. Yep, absolutely. And uh, we'll see you for 22. Now I I'm betting 35 listens between now and then. Oh my god. We're gonna cover, we're gonna break 700. Break 700. We're gonna break it.

Zia 53:41

Let's do it. Thank you, guys. Love everyone, love you, Zen. Thank you guys. Bye. Love you, bye.