Offstage With Tanner Usrey & Joell Cooley

This episode of Offstage America comes straight from the table at Cadillac Creek Outfitters — four guys, a few drinks in, and absolutely no plan to keep it on the rails.

Michael Ray and Paul sit down with rising artists and songwriters Tanner Usrey and Joel Cooley after a full day in the blind, and it turns into exactly what you’d expect — stories, chaos, music talk, and a whole lot of shit talking.

They get into how Tanner built his career from the ground up, grinding through Texas and figuring it out the hard way, and how Joel is just getting started — balancing songwriting, touring, and now caddying for John Daly while chasing his shot in music.

The conversation jumps everywhere — first tours, playing for nobody, living out of vans, how the industry’s changed, and why there’s no single path anymore. One minute it’s real insight into what it takes to make it, the next it’s complete nonsense about donuts, bad decisions, and whatever else comes to mind.

At the core of it, though, it’s about the grind — betting on yourself, figuring it out as you go, and staying in it long enough for something to hit.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Hey, we're four guys in little table.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Four guys in little table. Four guys in little table. Gotta make it on stage, America.

SPEAKER_06 0:43

What's up, guys? We're here at Cadillac Creek Outfitters. Um, we've been having a great time and uh wanted to bring uh two buddies of mine up that are talented artists, songwriters that are crushing it. Um we got Tanner Usre over here. Howdy. Y'all give it up. Come on. We got Joel Cooley over here. How y'all doing? Also, John Daly's Caddy.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Yep, caddy shack. Caddy Shack.

SPEAKER_06 1:10

He's got a nickname now. Also known as Joel Langley. Oh. Also, yes. Yeah. Right off the bat. We're throwing that out there. She's gonna see this. I hope she does. She will. What's up, babe?

SPEAKER_09 1:25

Right off the bat. Hey, baby.

SPEAKER_06 1:29

I met Joel at Old Hickory Golf Course when he was working there. We'd be hanging out with John Daly out there and me and Lil Skinny and everybody, and then we'd just give him crap, make him bring us drinks, and then he'd get off, just change his shirt and come sit back. He would get off the club.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

He would get up on the golf golf course.

SPEAKER_06 1:45

Yeah, only whole only a certain hole, so yeah. It's weird. I don't know why. I'm not sure. That should be a treat. He waited till the 18th, though, so it was legal.

SPEAKER_09 1:59

But he went. I'm deceased. Oh man, the explicit buttons on this one. That should be fucking great. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 2:11

That deal better be turned on.

SPEAKER_06 2:13

Dude, uh, I've I've I've been a f fan of your stuff, dude, for for a while, ever since I heard uh you and and Ella together, dude. And I was pumped whenever uh Skinny told me you were here and you were or you're gonna be coming out. Um and we met at a nice sports bar.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

Yeah, we did for the yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:29

First time.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Walk on. It's awesome. You weren't there.

SPEAKER_06 2:32

No. No, wonder why he wasn't there?

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Yeah. Tell him tell us why.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

Let me explain something. Um one place I hate to be at any time of the day is an airport. You know where I really hate to be at 4 45 in the morning? An airport. You know why I was at an airport at 4 45 center? I knew they'd be back. Because I because I uh we have people running around here. Because uh I I wanted to book the same as Lil Skinny. You know, we were flying out of Nashville, I go, we'll do the same thing. And then he was landing around the same time. I go, perfect. I go, and Skinny's like, man, we can't check in until like four. Five. Five. Five, sorry. Five. Worse. And uh it's like noon when we land, and I go, Why did we fly in so early? And he goes, Well, Joel said we're gonna get the 5 30 a.m. flight, we'll get there early. Yeah. Joel never booked the 5 30 a.m. flight. It was like what'd you fly at nine?

SPEAKER_04 3:25

I left it like 10 15. 10 15 son of a slept like a baby. I slept like an hour and a half. It was an accident.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Well, he wanted to spend five hours of memory. What really happened was four there's not a lot going on, man.

SPEAKER_07 3:42

Yeah, we're like we're driving around with our hardware.

SPEAKER_09 3:45

Tanner's like, wait till I get out.

SPEAKER_06 3:47

We went to Academy and then went to Academy.

SPEAKER_09 3:50

Academy, and then went back to Academy, and then I'm pretty sure you're like a you know a high rewards customer now after going there as many times.

SPEAKER_03 3:57

It's like Amarillo has like, you know, a mall or a movie.

SPEAKER_09 4:01

We went to Academy so many times Michael ended up having to take pictures with fans. All right. Like that's the amount of times we were going into the city.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

What really happened though was I was we're booking a couple flights because Skinny and I are leaving. We're going from here to South Texas to go deer hunt. And I accidentally told him to book the flight that gets there at four for South Texas, meaning I thought I said it twice because I did, but I said it on a separate message. And I was like, I'm getting the flight that lands at four. And then the first text I sent was, hey, let's get to 6 a.m. Second, I guess after he had already gotten his flight, was hey, we're getting there at four. Because I landed at four.

SPEAKER_06 4:34

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

But I slept till about eight fifteen. He was in the air.

SPEAKER_06 4:39

We were in the air, and I just want I really want you just to really realize that how your actions have a ripple effect. I think you should apologize. I was at an airport at 4 45 in the morning with a little skinny who decides to send me a text. You know what? I'm sorry to you.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Not skinny. Oh no, and me too. Skinny. And me and me too.

SPEAKER_09 4:59

Fuck you. Also, also, well, in that case, I saw the text. I saw the text message where he actually sent the screenshot and said, Are you getting this flight? And he said yes. So not only was there confirmation of the time that Skinny was confirmed it.

SPEAKER_06 5:18

We got here.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

And you know what? We slayed some geese.

SPEAKER_06 5:20

We slayed a lot of geese. A lot of geese. Today was not the same. We saw a lot of geese. We saw a lot of geese. Yeah, we saw thousands of geese, but uh they just never never even paid.

SPEAKER_09 5:34

This is probably the day we saw the most actual geese. Yeah, yeah, probably one.

SPEAKER_06 5:39

Yeah. Three? Throughout the whole day. I thought it was just one. See, I can't count either.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

One o'clock, four o'clock, six o'clock. It's all the same.

SPEAKER_06 5:47

Sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 5:48

It's okay. You don't have to apologize to me. Six. I love you, Joel. Eight o'clock. You said shoot between ten and two, and Joel's like, like this?

SPEAKER_04 5:56

That would be skinny.

SPEAKER_06 5:59

Taylor, where where are you originally from, dude? Because this is our first time ever meeting and hanging out, getting to kick it. Yeah. And uh I feel like I've known you my whole life already, dude.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Uh no, I'm from Prosper, Texas, uh, when it was like cool, you know.

SPEAKER_08 6:14

Proper Prosper.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

Yeah. It's definitely blown up a lot, but back when I was growing up, it was still a small town.

SPEAKER_06 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

So not anymore.

SPEAKER_06 6:24

It's crazy, but that's kind of happening in my town. Like my my downtown and my hometown is the exact same, right? It really hasn't changed in years. But because Orlando's growing, everybody's moving to Florida. You know, everybody's moving down there. So now I do my little hometown where there used to be orange groves is like a shopping center. You know, like my the fact that my hometown has a Chipotle and a Starbucks and a mellow mushroom and uh now I think an alehouse.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

Like, what is going on? It's like uh we used to go hang out at Sonic. Yeah, and that was a cool thing to do. Like I'd get a breakfast burrito and some French sticks.

SPEAKER_09 7:05

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm that old.

SPEAKER_06 7:10

Yeah. Because guess what? Same cost. Fun fact. Fun fact very different. Fun fact, uh, you know, at the your local donut place, um, they can't sell those donuts the next day. Uh huh. So they bring them to shelters or sister living homes, whatever, because they're not bad, right? They're so good, they just can't sell them, right? Right. And so our friend who she went to Christian Holman Bible School in Mount Dora, Florida, her parents owned the Dunkin' Donuts. So on Wednesday nights, we'd go out there and take over the parking lot.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

What'd you what would you do?

SPEAKER_06 7:40

Eat a lot of donuts. What else? What else?

SPEAKER_05 7:45

You know.

SPEAKER_06 7:46

Hey, you know. Drink a little drink a little drink, smoke a little smoke. Listen, Eric Church. Why do you think we ate so many donuts?

SPEAKER_07 8:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:02

Now I now I can't even smell a donut, dude. I won't mess with jugging donuts the other day. I had to change my pants.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

I'm not gonna lie, I I can't really stand nugging donuts.

SPEAKER_06 8:11

I'm not a big fan of their coffee. I'm a Shipleys guy.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

No, I am a mom and pop. It's gotta be the little Korean lady that if you buy a couple donuts, she gives you a dozen donut holes. It's gotta be that.

SPEAKER_09 8:26

Yeah. She's gotta be losing money.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

You know what I'm talking about. No, man.

SPEAKER_09 8:30

There's there's one of those places called Donaddies by where I live. I feel like I feel like my dad was in Korea, so we could ask him.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

I feel like the donut industry has like, how do you take something and make it so complicated? But it's so simple. You know, like the like the gourmet donuts like donuts.

SPEAKER_05 8:50

Give me a good glaze.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:52

Yeah. That was the wrong choice of words. Yeah, pause. That's not what I meant. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

I'll give you a good glaze.

SPEAKER_06 9:03

That was deserved. Um what's the original donut? What's the name of uh uh you know, just anyway, donuts.

SPEAKER_08 9:11

I don't need to just glazed. Yeah, yeah. What about the angle?

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Do you like the cream-filled donuts? I don't think. Oh boy, here we go.

SPEAKER_09 9:24

Um that was a setup, clearly. He should have done that the first question. You might have got you. Now you're prepared.

SPEAKER_06 9:30

Yeah, well, but yeah, well, it sucks.

SPEAKER_07 9:32

You don't like the long ones with a chocolate on top? I loved them, actually, Tanner.

SPEAKER_06 9:39

I loved them. Jesus. It's not what I needed. Wait, can you read that again? Long ones?

SPEAKER_09 9:47

You like the long ones?

SPEAKER_06 9:51

Yeah, that'll be, yeah. Yeah. Um, so we just hang out there. We uh Sonic Ice, however. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Big thing for sure.

SPEAKER_06 10:01

Best ice in the game. Yeah. Best ice. Yeah. But I'm we, I there's a place I I love uh because back in my hometown, there's a lot of mom and pop type places too. There's a place called Genie's Restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Shout out.

SPEAKER_09 10:12

I've literally heard about this restaurant like a hundred times for him. So now I want to get to the guy's elite.

SPEAKER_06 10:17

Southern cooking.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:19

Bacon, eggs, and grits.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Good. Yeah, good fried chicken.

SPEAKER_06 10:23

Oh. Buddy, my uncle Terry, uh, whenever he goes.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Back up, Terry.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

I just said stupid shit. Terry reverse. For the fireworks. Put it in reverse. Is that your uncle?

SPEAKER_06 10:41

Is the dude in the water your uncle? No.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

That'd be crazy. I mean, wouldn't chart. You can rap.

SPEAKER_06 10:47

Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I think you just want to show off you could beat box. Yeah. That was definitely a setup. Yeah. I respect it though. I swear to God, because of Tanner, that song's been in my freaking head. All the week. I can't.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

It's a curse. I can't get it out of my head. We're sitting in the blinds.

SPEAKER_06 11:08

We're sitting in the blinds, and all of a sudden, not singing, you just hear the actual recording of it. Jesus. That was somebody else.

SPEAKER_07 11:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 11:17

I think it just kind of went from like blind to blind, and then it was just like a joke. Then it's like, oh, we'll just do it. It's been like the theme song of the trip. Crazy. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_06 11:26

It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

It's already top tier. I've had it stuck in my movie number one. Five weeks. Six months. Probably. I can't stop. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_09 11:34

We're just supporting her future ex-husband, Joel.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:39

Maybe. Maybe he will love you, right? Yeah. Meg's gonna be groups at this one. Meg ooo. I thought maybe the girl you were talking about. No, no, no. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, that one.

SPEAKER_09 11:59

Josh is using our pockets to shoot all the shots.

SPEAKER_06 12:01

Yeah, yeah. Hey, dude.

SPEAKER_09 12:03

Listen.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Hey, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

SPEAKER_06 12:07

Oh, he does. My man steps up to the plate and swings.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

For the fences. For the fences. Why wouldn't you? His batting average is 06-9, but he's hit 56 offers. Is that the saying in the past couple weeks? If you ain't gonna fully send it, why send it at all?

SPEAKER_04 12:26

If you bat 300, if you hit three out of every ten, you're in the Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_06 12:34

In baseball.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 12:37

I mean, I get what you're saying, but it's the only sport you could technically fail in and make millions. Yeah. Yeah. It's very true. God. I wish I was good at baseball.

SPEAKER_06 12:52

I knew it was gonna happen. Oh, I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_09 12:55

We're either gonna get a laugh or a restraining order from this podcast. Yeah, something's gonna happen. Oh, he's definitely getting a restraining order.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

You might need some shit to be cut out. It's cool.

SPEAKER_06 13:06

No. No. This whole podcast has been a good thing. Why would we cut any of this out? We're creating a community of people that just want to, you know. We think so.

SPEAKER_09 13:14

Have fun and express their love for Alla Lightly. I mean, it's fine.

SPEAKER_07 13:17

Eat some glazed donuts.

SPEAKER_06 13:24

Whatever I can do is what I'm trying to do for you guys. For the massive cream. Yeah, double glazed cream.

SPEAKER_04 13:31

But man, no, no, no. I want the one that's shaped like a hot dog, please.

SPEAKER_09 13:34

I will say that this is the first time on the show someone's ever made a cocktail during the show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Make that the first and second time.

SPEAKER_06 13:43

Man of many talents.

SPEAKER_04 13:44

That is exactly right. And I didn't come. Excuse me. Jesus put a comma there, dude. You can't come.

SPEAKER_06 13:54

Ice for everybody. Bang. Oh, you didn't come unprepared. No. Yeah. You see how that sentence rolled? Yeah. Sure. You can't make a drink and say I didn't come. I wasn't expecting you to.

SPEAKER_09 14:08

I'm going to come.

SPEAKER_07 14:13

I'm going to come. Oh, I'm going to come. I'm going to come.

SPEAKER_03 14:16

I'm going to come. I can't do a fucking drum impression.

SPEAKER_06 14:19

But I can't do any impressions. They'll turn out Asian. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_09 14:26

People are going to think that we're just like showing out because it's like late. Nope. This is how the whole trip's been. Oh, dude. It's been awesome. Yes. A lot of fun. Outside of when he's been napping in the blind.

SPEAKER_03 14:37

I did not nap in the blind.

SPEAKER_09 14:39

I have a picture that says otherwise.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

I was closing my eyes. I saw you take the blind.

SPEAKER_09 14:42

You were snoring. He just said, he just said. Yeah, Paul takes pictures of people when they're sleeping. None of you, though. You're not interested enough. I would lock your room. Only of the actually people that matter.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Dagger.

SPEAKER_06 14:59

Dagger. Sander, what's uh you've never been here, right? No. Before? Is this your first time, right? Have you been to being from Texas? Is this like a common type of place?

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Uh like for ducks or geese? I don't really know. This is the first time I've been goose hunting.

SPEAKER_06 15:17

Yeah, they're first. They're like super well known though. Oh, I know that. Yeah, you know, I know this place. I just didn't know if I maybe grew up going to like you know, if he grew up going, I didn't know this was your first time goose hunting. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

I just I just recently started getting it.

SPEAKER_09 15:30

This this is my first time goose hunting, too. I knew I've hunted like ducks and other shit, right? Like, but this is the first time I ever hunted goose. Geese. The candidate ones.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

You want to hear my goose call? Yeah, yeah. There's nothing more out of there. There's a call right there on that. Hey, Kamiri. You got some maple syrup, eh? I got some maple syrup and some potato whiskey, eh?

SPEAKER_09 15:58

Timmy Hortons? Timmy who? Tim Boo's?

SPEAKER_03 16:01

I got Swarma. Nice. And some uh and some poutine.

SPEAKER_06 16:04

Oh yeah. Dude, that's actually really good. Yeah, poutine.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

I tried I I was in uh Canada back in May with Dylan Gossett. And I wasn't a big fan of the poutine. No. But I did have some really fucking okay. Two things Canada really likes. Swarma and pizza. That's like the main two restaurants. Yeah, there's a spot that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_09 16:32

There's actually a lot what people don't realize is there's a ton of uh Italian immigrants in like Ontario. So I was looking up people with my last name. Uh so my like my last name's Novi Elli, right? So it's Italian, and it like a ton of those people actually settled either in New York, like New York City, or like in the Toronto area. So there is a lot of Italian jeopardy.

SPEAKER_04 16:55

Oh, I can imagine.

SPEAKER_06 16:58

Dude's like the dictionary.

SPEAKER_07 17:00

He's like, he's like, there's some good pizza places, Paul.

SPEAKER_06 17:02

It's like, man, actually, you know, the most immigrants of Italian immigrants settle in Ontario. Do you tour Canada? Have you toured there a lot? Was that the first time? That was my first time.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

I've had trouble getting into Canada.

SPEAKER_06 17:15

It can be tough. Yeah, it's very tough if you've ever had a slip-up of any sort.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:22

Especially DWIs. Very strict on that. Very good.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

I had to get an FBI background check. I had to get my fingerprints done. I had to get like five references. Damn. Yeah. Tell them my history since 2020. What else did you do? That's the only time I've ever been arrested.

SPEAKER_09 17:40

I was literally in Canada a couple months ago, actually. You're Vancouver.

SPEAKER_06 17:46

You help him out get in.

SPEAKER_09 17:48

I got in really easy. I drove in, drove out. Oh yeah. I have a buddy that lives in Canada.

SPEAKER_07 17:55

That does not surprise me.

SPEAKER_09 17:57

I'm just smart enough I never got caught.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

Okay, chill. Pump the brakes.

SPEAKER_09 18:01

I went easy.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

I went to the east side of Canada.

SPEAKER_09 18:06

Oh, you were in Quebec. Yeah. And that's a whole and even Canadians will tell you that's a way different.

SPEAKER_06 18:14

Oh yeah. Yeah, so we did a uh we did a tour um across Canada and I'll go to the the good side, the cool side.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Whoa, so let me tell you this.

SPEAKER_06 18:22

So on top of the one of the places we went was Banff, right? Oh beautiful, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

That was cool.

SPEAKER_06 18:28

Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm doing the radio. It's a British Columbia. We're doing a radio show the in that morning, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Is it Banff?

SPEAKER_09 18:36

The West Coast. Oh West Side, yeah. It's in British Columbia. Yeah, it's right from Snowski's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:41

Sure. Um I'm on this radio. I'm doing an interview on this radio show in the morning. And they go, I didn't realize they were saying Banf. I thought they were saying BAMF. B-A-M-F, right? And then they go, I go, is it BAMF? And I guess with my accent, they thought I was saying it correctly, right? So they're like, yeah, and I go, Y'all know what that stands for.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

Badass motherfucker.

SPEAKER_06 19:05

That's what I thought. Yeah. And so I go, they go, what? And I go, I can't say it on air, you know. Right. But you don't it's pretty cool your town's name that, right? And then after we got off air, I was like, yeah, Banff, B-A-M-F, badass motherfucker. And they go, there's no M. Oh, what? It's Banff, right? It's B-A-N-F? Yeah. Yeah. And uh, so that was my that was my first uh radio interview in Canada. That's how it started.

SPEAKER_09 19:34

Now they think that he's a raging racist in Canada. No, no, edited that.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

Um so did you start touring out here in Texas?

SPEAKER_03 19:44

Uh yeah, yeah. Uh I've been doing this since 2013 now.

SPEAKER_06 19:49

You had a uh band with your brother, right?

SPEAKER_03 19:51

Yeah, I had a cute little acoustic duo for my uh with my brother. Um the first probably four four years, five years. Till 2017 when I started releasing music by myself. And then I started I quit my job in 2019 and really started uh hit it. October of 2019, by the way. And so I was like, in January of 2019, I was like, okay, I'm gonna get a full-time band. Like I'm I'm gonna get a band that like because I was just hired, like, whoever could play it. Right, yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay, I need to solve it, I need to be the real players, the ones that are gonna be with us. And then my birthday of 2020. It was our second show playing together. And it was the week that everything shut down. No way. Yeah, it was that week. Uh me and uh my buddy Jordan Nix was like we looked at each other and we were like, Right, yeah, everybody, 14 days.

SPEAKER_08 20:53

We'll be fine. Yeah, 14 days to stop the spread. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Fourteen days, yeah, we're good.

SPEAKER_08 21:00

Year and a half later.

SPEAKER_06 21:06

What did you do during that break?

SPEAKER_03 21:07

I mean, you just quit your job and well no, we I I we uh we were still like listening to the shit, you know, a month, a month a little bit like after, but then we were like, alright.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

That's actually when we started you know touring. Uh like we started touring just whoever would fucking let us play and give a shit about the quarantine. We went all around, um, did a bunch of house parties. Yeah, a lot of people that was the thing that went. But we played at whatever bar they let us. Uh so it didn't keep us down right now. Yeah, that's when I started really fucking after.

SPEAKER_06 21:43

Were you writing songs before that time? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Yeah. Um yeah, I released my first song in 2017.

SPEAKER_06 21:50

As a solo artist. When did you start seeing kind of that pick up for you? What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 21:56

I would say probably in 2019 when I would uh release the uh Madison or Lives. Yeah, yeah, man. That song is so good.

SPEAKER_06 22:05

Um What was the song you played the other night at at uh was it uh what was the name? Sweet or Josephine is so good, man. God man. So good. If y'all haven't heard him, dude he's yeah, dude. I love Sad. Yeah. Sad's country songs wrong. I'll listen to that shit in the gym. Same. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 22:33

Everybody's enjoying listening to Metallica. If you want if you want sad shit.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

If you want some sad shit to listen to, you need to listen to Arlen McKinley and Justin Wells.

SPEAKER_08 22:47

Yeah? Are they Texas? Texas?

SPEAKER_06 22:54

His name sounds familiar. I've heard that. I need to check that out. That tall? Taller and skinny?

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Huh?

SPEAKER_06 23:07

Taller and skinny?

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Skinny that's not? No. No. And about 200 pounds bigger.

SPEAKER_06 23:13

Oh yeah, big boy. He should have played like DS line. He's like 245.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

Yeah, but yeah, but not fat. He's like four skinny.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

When your car is part two close in a parallel spot, he can just pick it up, move it over, side of that, and then play you a beautiful song on the way out.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:33

When did you when was like uh so during that time picking up Texas? What I love, man, is like I cut my first record in Austin. And uh Dwight Baker he produced at the time he was producing uh Blue Edmondson. Oh shit. Um he produced um Bob Schneider, some Bob stuff. Um he was also with Joel. He was also I'm walking the floor. I've done this before Sit him up, Joel, I'm walking the floor. Uh and dude, that was my first time I ever like living outside of like my hometown, do you know? And I was recording with Dwight and we were writing songs and all this stuff. And it's the hustle he's he's fixing you up, Joel.

SPEAKER_09 24:18

Let me tell you.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

I would have expected no less. He's trying to get away from the show.

SPEAKER_09 24:23

This is this is Joel realizing that this is this is the last night. This is the last night. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't don't ruin it.

SPEAKER_08 24:33

Yeah, just give it to him. Just give it to him. Just give it to him. We're going off the rail side.

SPEAKER_09 24:37

I usually do like that, but listen, this is the last night, and we're just gonna go out with a bang. Yeah, you're gonna go. We don't have to wake up at six.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

Are you gonna play Kingston?

SPEAKER_09 24:45

Yes. Fun game, by the way. I'm gonna go smoke a cigar after this. I brought like twelve. Then we'll talk about a game. How about that? We're gonna be playing this. I'll smoke a cigar. I've been down to smoke cigarettes. Yeah, cigar. By the fire.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

We need to wake Richie up.

SPEAKER_09 24:58

Yes. I bet you we will give Richie up. I know how to wake Richie up.

SPEAKER_06 25:02

I love Richie. Richie's a great dude.

SPEAKER_03 25:03

I know how. I don't know how to do it.

SPEAKER_06 25:05

That's what we were talking about.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Seriously. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 25:08

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 25:10

Okay, I have a question then. I'll jump in if you guys are gonna argue about who we're gonna talk.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

I was thinking, how crazy is it that like you know, you come to a place like this and like it's a bunch of random strangers, dude. Fucking strangers, and you just like and people start to realize who we were. Like as it went on. And it's just a bunch of random strangers and you come back fucking best friends.

SPEAKER_06 25:34

Yeah, dude, that's what that's what we were talking about with Toby. It was like being like what he's created here. And it starts with him, you know what I mean? Like and the vibe that he's he's upset out here. It's like, dude, you meet I met strangers now feel like I've known everybody for because I was like coming in, I was like, it could be a little weird. Yeah, it was that's what we were talking about.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Like, imagine like standing house with a bunch of random people that you don't know. Right.

SPEAKER_06 25:55

Bunch of booze. Yeah, you know, like what could go wrong? Yeah, yeah. You're only hunting in the morning, you know what I mean? So you gotta the rest of the day to just get smacked, dude.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

But eat eat dinner together like as a it's almost like a family. As a family, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:09

Yeah, that's the beauty of the outdoors, man. It brings everybody together, you know. And then when you're out here, it's like I was telling Toby, it's like you're not people just aren't on their phones, or like, yo, you see these kids running around out here, you know what I mean? There's not like they're not glued to a technology screen or you know, anything like that. It's like they're out and experiencing life. And when you're out here with people and you're getting to know people and it's like-minded people that are also have their stories, so you're getting to know, and and everybody, you know, kind of before you before you freaking leave, you have like a deer hunt set up at somebody's ranch, you got an elk hunt set up at somebody's ranch. Everybody's coming to shows. Yeah, I added 20 more people to my guest list. I'm like, it's my other aunt. You have 57 aunts, three uncles. They're hard women.

SPEAKER_09 26:55

I mean, it it's been it's been really cool because like you, yeah. I mean, I've no I obviously I've known you for a while, but like I'm getting into like with your friends and stuff, and it's like I've known these guys forever. Like, yeah, obviously, I don't know everything about, but it's been like quick and jive, and we bust each other's balls, and everybody's having a great time, and nobody takes anything seriously. That's when you know you're with like good people, right? Like at the end of the day, like I'm gonna give everybody shit. They're gonna I mean, I'm getting shit. We're gonna have to post the video that when I was in all white for the national championship game, but this guy posts and puts backstreet boys to the music.

SPEAKER_06 27:28

Yeah, full walks out all white. I know the Michelin man. Ready for Miami to do.

SPEAKER_09 27:33

Yeah, and we and we lost, but that's fine.

SPEAKER_06 27:35

I never wanted to win for a I mean, I yeah, I'm from Florida, but like I grew up a Gators fan. I well, I wanna, I mean, you know. Indiana's been great to me. Torn.

SPEAKER_03 27:47

Same.

SPEAKER_06 27:48

Great, great spot. I felt a little torn, but I was like, hey, my boy's room from Miami. Yeah, man, you know, Florida.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

Did you play the high-fi?

SPEAKER_06 27:54

My friend here, you know?

SPEAKER_07 27:55

And then I saw him hit his knees when I have never seen anybody more focused on a game. Hold on, dude.

SPEAKER_09 28:05

Um think about this though. You guys start playing. You guys are playing your music in the concert, and I'm still getting bomb ass content for you guys while the Natty's going on. That's very true. I still was like, I was able to. That's a good point. Yeah, you have seen the content because I've seen those videos. He's seen some. I'll show you. I actually content of you too. I actually need to like. I just wish you weren't doing what you were doing. I I I'm very I'm very self-aware, trust me. No, like I gotta it just reminds me, I gotta send you guys like this stuff because I got you guys' stuff too.

SPEAKER_06 28:37

Oh yeah. What other uh what other stuff you got going on, dude?

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Um right now I'm doing a bunch of writing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:44

Um for a new record or just I don't know yet. Just kind of figuring that out now. Shits and giggles.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

Yeah, just writing more songs.

SPEAKER_06 28:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Today's day and age, apparently, that's what you gotta do to you gotta release a song a month. An album a month.

SPEAKER_06 28:59

It's crazy. Yeah, you're great at Sissy now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

Here, here's a 36 song album every month.

SPEAKER_06 29:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

Brother, you've released a thousand songs this year.

SPEAKER_06 29:10

I'm working on my next one, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what I'd I miss that time, man, when you could buy a CD go to the store, you know, and you opened it, and you read all that.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

There was badass cover R.

SPEAKER_06 29:23

Brittany Spears threw a little poster up there, you know, for us to hang on our wall when we were middle school.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Huh? No.

SPEAKER_06 29:28

Brittany?

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Yeah, who?

SPEAKER_06 29:29

Brittany Spears? Oh. Oh, yeah. They hit me, baby, one more time, record.

unknown 29:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:33

Oh, yeah, fire.

SPEAKER_09 29:34

Yeah. Yeah. Y'all can't. The greatest cook on earth is watching us now, by the way. We're gonna try to stay out of your kitchen and night, but I was I'll I'll stay up later and make sure that these guys behave. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 29:45

I don't know. He's lying.

SPEAKER_09 29:47

We No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_06 29:48

I'm we're all hanging out. All of a sudden I smell some stuff coming from the kitchen. I'm like, is Clint here? My man ain't here. And I'm with the people that probably I don't know if we should be cooking right now.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

There's just chips. Oh, I did try to make nachos. I I burnt them.

SPEAKER_09 30:06

That's this guy, this guy walks in and says You still try to make us eat them. This guy comes in and says, Hold on. He comes in and says, Cook. This guy goes, like, is like gives him the desk there because he didn't clean the dishes. He's like, You better do it, though you better he goes, put it back the way you found it.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

I left put it back the way you found it. I left the pots and pans to soak because it had burnt burnt chips on it. Chips on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:35

Yeah. My name was Gordon Ramsey, dude, in the back.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Dude, I I cooked it up.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

He said, Man, I know what I'm gonna do. Nachos. Put some cheese on it. And I'm gonna make it done. Done. Clint comes in, burnt.

SPEAKER_05 30:50

Burnt chips on a bed.

SPEAKER_09 30:54

Wondering who he's gonna kill. Yeah, yeah. He probably had a small list, actually.

SPEAKER_07 30:59

But Tanner's had such a beautiful voice, you know what I mean? For Clinton's back. It's like I want to punch the bigger. Was he one of the top three, though?

SPEAKER_09 31:05

Was he one of the top three you would have guessed? Who would have been your top three that you would have guessed would have done it? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

Would you have guessed me? Really? Just because we're like respectful and shit or what?

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Okay, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

I've been talking to him about cooking the whole time.

SPEAKER_09 31:38

You didn't know that Tanner was like three days like that.

SPEAKER_06 31:45

It's always the people you it's always the people you're least expecting. You know what I mean? See, you're now offended now that you weren't at the top of the list.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

Come on, man. No, I no, I was leaving them aside. I really was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 32:03

I wouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

We cleaned it up and we're good.

SPEAKER_09 32:06

You fuck up nachos, by the way. Put them at 104.

SPEAKER_04 32:12

I was eating like Sour Patch kids.

SPEAKER_09 32:15

He put it, he put it in the oven and just totally forgot. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Yeah. You're lucky he didn't walk.

SPEAKER_07 32:26

And it's still in the oven. Yeah. It's like, man, judging my uh BT.

SPEAKER_06 32:33

Preheat 450, put them in there for 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_07 32:36

They should be done. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 32:38

Bro, could you imagine it? Tanner would have woke up this morning, smelled something smoking, opened the oven, went fuck, turned it off, said about. Just would have left.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

I would have gone back home.

SPEAKER_06 32:51

Clint would have pan hit you like that. Yeah, yeah. Attitude era. That type of shit.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Yeah. Hey, but it was it was it was pretty good.

unknown 33:02

I won't lie.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

Naches are beat.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

But no, but those tacos that I made, the dude. Those nachos are killed just like that's no keys to us.

SPEAKER_06 33:17

Yeah, fair.

SPEAKER_09 33:18

My kid, his kitchen is not your friend.

SPEAKER_06 33:20

I don't even want to see you make cereal.

SPEAKER_09 33:21

Toby. See you, Toby.

SPEAKER_06 33:22

See you, buddy. Thank you so much, man. See you. See you tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09 33:26

All right.

SPEAKER_06 33:27

See you, buddy. See you, Clint. Try to keep Tanner out of the kitchen. I love how he's gone. We're totally cooking tonight. I love that.

SPEAKER_09 33:36

I love how he's uh steak fish. I've worked on a lot in a restaurant too. I'm whipping. If we go find any more of those.

SPEAKER_07 33:45

If we go find bro, he put two pickles on every sandwich.

SPEAKER_09 33:49

We find more of those goose tacos in there, marinade? We will make those. I'm down.

SPEAKER_07 33:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 33:55

Those were five goose. Unbelievable. He cooked those nachos like we cooked that snow goose. Oh god mighty. Friggin' 25 people shot the snow goose.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

Literally, 25 people shot that bastard. That was a hate crime. It didn't suffer. I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_09 34:19

I mean, you can't. We can edit it out if it's really bad. It was like Minneapolis.

SPEAKER_07 34:26

They're taking our time. Fuck. I didn't need to edit that out.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Please edit that other music.

SPEAKER_09 34:40

Dana, we lost Minneapolis on the tour.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Please edit that out. Minneapolis is so good to us.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

Hey, will you tell everybody how to say your last name? Because no one says it right.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Usri. Usri.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

Usri. Yeah. See, I was saying Uzri.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

U-S-R-E-E. But it's U S-R-E-Y.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Yeah, so it so it doesn't sound like it looks.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

Yeah. Baked.

SPEAKER_09 35:05

The Y is silent like that. Why is your name so complicated when I'm hammered?

SPEAKER_03 35:09

Their X needs to be one of what's that little thing above the An asterisk.

SPEAKER_09 35:12

Oh, like Beyonce?

SPEAKER_06 35:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Yeah. And delete the Y. Holy shit, I'm onto something.

SPEAKER_09 35:19

You're gonna be like White Beyonce. You'll be Beyonce, dude. Oostre.

SPEAKER_05 35:27

Oostre, dude. See some acting. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_09 35:32

We gotta stop. No, we don't. We really we should just go sing it and then put it on.

SPEAKER_04 35:37

Just spread we need to spread the love, though.

SPEAKER_09 35:44

I'm not gonna lie. If we went in there and turned like the mics on and then just did it, it would go viral. Honestly. That would be a phenomenal tick to we should just do it. Especially when we're all hammered to be even better.

SPEAKER_06 35:55

He only sang the first two lines, mumbled the rest of the verse.

SPEAKER_05 35:58

Come on, we can do it. He knows I'm from Texas. He's from Texas, I can tell by the way.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

He's just stepping around the room. Judging by grid on his face. There's nothing I can do.

SPEAKER_07 36:18

Alright. Alright, back. Alright, all right. He's prepared.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Dude, it seriously is it's it's such a melody. Such an earworm.

SPEAKER_06 36:34

Sometimes like you get good catchy songs, or they're just they're not a great song, but like lyrically, you know what I mean? Like maybe it's just a catchy melody, you know. It's not written extreme. And it's that type of song, which is fine, dude. You know, there's nothing wrong with like that song. Some of those songs are hits because it's a catchy melody.

SPEAKER_09 36:48

It's also how she like sings it, like and puts the emphasis on different words. It's unique.

SPEAKER_06 36:51

Well, those those those songs, like it's the melody that gets catchy, and those type of melodies, you can put any lyrics to it. You know what I mean? It's gonna be catchy, you know. Yeah, it is written great. You can't get it out of your head, thanks to Tanner. She dug buys away. Yeah, for real. I'm over here trying to, I'm like, text my manager. I'm like, you got connection with I got a guy that needs to stay 50 feet away, and a guy that did a duet with her.

SPEAKER_09 37:21

Probably 100 feet. 50 feet is still within striking distance.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:26

He always scares people in parking garages.

SPEAKER_07 37:34

I'll give him a range fire.

SPEAKER_09 37:36

Don't you climb trees?

SPEAKER_07 37:38

Oh my god. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

Can you tell me if this napkin smells like chlorophyll?

SPEAKER_07 37:43

And that's why we've never turned it out. That's why we won't get on our tour.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

And the retreating order is. Speak for yourself.

SPEAKER_07 37:52

I got it. Yeah, it's all me out. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 38:00

So funny, dude. So I met Joel when he was working at OHIC. Oh, did we?

SPEAKER_05 38:12

We're losing.

SPEAKER_06 38:13

We've singing up to the copyright.

SPEAKER_09 38:15

We are we owe royalties at this point.

SPEAKER_06 38:18

L's gonna be like, hey, that's a cool thing. Appreciate you saying my next video. We're gonna post this on YouTube.

SPEAKER_09 38:25

Yeah. Thanks to the pub, guys. Where's the check?

SPEAKER_06 38:27

Appreciate you guys. So I met Joel. Uh we hit it off right away, man. He's been one of my real good buddies, like a little brother. Great songwriter, dude. You played some stuff the other night, man. It was really good. And uh recently had a little bit of a career change.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:42

Well, our pops, John Daly. Caddy Shack. Caddy Shack over here. There's the caddy for the legendary John Daly, uh, who we've had a many, many nights with.

SPEAKER_03 38:54

Dude, I said this yesterday. I really do feel like me and John Daly, y'all need to put me and John Daly together and see what happens.

SPEAKER_09 39:02

I feel like everybody has said no to that already.

SPEAKER_04 39:04

No, I don't know. Well, I love him and I love you, and I don't uh we'd be so good for each other. Okay, we can do it.

SPEAKER_06 39:09

Yeah, it'd be the most entertained. You imagine him and John the other dude. Oh my god. But I feel like me and him would be great. Here's what would be great is that we're gonna be able to like we don't tell John anything that this dude can sink his ass off. Yeah, no, a hundred percent because he freaks. Because John's like John's great at golf and his love is music. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Like he was supposed to, he was so I played a hometown show a couple years ago for uh uh uh brand called Inappropriate Trucker Hats, um, Uncle Becca. Um and I played in Prosper, and John was supposed to show up. I can't remember what he had going on, but I just couldn't get it worked out. And he was supposed to crash the stage, and I was like, She was like, You think that's okay if he does? And I was like, Yeah. What what song you want to sing? John's the best.

SPEAKER_04 39:53

He's such a good human.

SPEAKER_06 39:54

Yeah, but he's one, he's one of the best people. So you you've been friends with Lil' John. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:01

What?

SPEAKER_06 40:03

No, he's what he's friends with four. We met a long time ago. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:11

Um we met a long time ago, and he was two or three years younger than I was in college. We lived close to each other and hung out my junior and senior year, I guess senior and fifth year, but whatever. Um, some people are late bloomers, but yeah. Eight year senior, no problem. He was a real consultant. We did. Um I met John in college and we kind of stayed in touch. We we hit it off, became buddies, and I moved to Nashville's, got the corporate job because my parents were like, You're not going here to just start singing right away, right? And I I didn't start until pretty late. I was a senior in college when I kind of like took the guitar off the wall and was like, I'm gonna try this out. Like, I'm gonna go on YouTube and see if I can write some stuff. And I moved and little John came to stay with me one week, and we ended up playing with his golf. We played golf with his dad a couple days in a row, and he was like, You need to quit the corporate job, come work out here, because all these songwriters write at 11 o'clock in the morning. Also, he's an insane golfer. Jealous. Which I heard. All right. He's really good. But he was like, hey, look, all these writers, all the good writers write in the morning. They write at 10 or 11 o'clock. And he was like, in Nashville, they do though. Oh, okay. Well, in Nashville, every write is at 11 a.m. This guy is between like 1 and 5 a.m. And there's there's afternoon, afternoon rights, and in your nights, of course. But he was like, your calendar needs to be available to you. I he's friends with all the music guys. And he was like, trust me, just come work out here. So I quit my job, got a job at the restaurant, the country club. Nice. Started bartending, serving, doing that deal, writing, and then in like two months, I was like, Thank you so much. Like such a God thing. I'm so blessed.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

You can meet a lot of people for sure.

SPEAKER_04 41:47

A hundred percent. And then you have the afternoons to go out, yeah, play golf, right? That's how we met.

SPEAKER_06 41:53

Hey, and that's the guy that was a poster on his wall, dude. He finally met about you above his belly.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

You're a nutter. You're a neither. You were on my ceiling, so when I was blended down, I could look up at you. I said, Oh my god, that's a Walmart Channing Tatum. It looks just like Channing Tatum, but a little less ugly.

SPEAKER_09 42:17

A little more ugly. A little more ugly. Oh my god. Thank you everyone for listening.

SPEAKER_07 42:25

The rollback in the bottom of it.

SPEAKER_09 42:29

Can't get any better than that one.

SPEAKER_05 42:31

So funny.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

Every podcast should be at fucking hunting camp, dude. Or whatever time it is. I agree. 1137. So like it's what?

SPEAKER_09 42:43

1137. Whoa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

It's been good though. We're doing 10 tournaments this year. Um his whole idea was for so I got the job at the club, and then a month ago he called me and was like, hey man, I want you to come out and be my caddy. I have an idea. I think it you'd work less, you'll make the same amount, or a little bit more. You'll be able to afford living in Nashville, and then you can write songs and start putting music out. I think I'm gonna put my first song out in like April, maybe May. But we're gonna go out on the road together. Uh we'll write clean state. So it's like, I need a clean slate, but I need a clean state. Like I gotta move somewhere else because this chick ruined my reputation. Bad bird, Dallas, whatever you get it. We're gonna go out on the road basically, write a bunch, and um and then I'm kind of producer shopping now, so I'm gonna go look look for the right guy and see if I can cut five to ten songs and kind of get the ball rolling this year. Pretty good. How's the Ben Caddy in for John? It's awesome. I did our first event was a PNC. It was like a month ago, and I didn't know what to expect. I was like, because he's so laid back, and we're like family now. He's like, my dad, I'm like, you know what, this it's not gonna be anything, and it wasn't anything crazy, but the weird part was I forget all the time how famous he really is. There was a 55 or maybe 60-year-old man. Shit, he could have been 65. He's standing behind the first T and he grabs my arm, he's like, Hey man, you're Jonathan Caddy, can I please get a picture, man? I all I want's a picture, maybe an autograph on the ball. I go, Yeah, dude, I got you, no problem. I just walk over, told him, I said, Hey, this guy back here is a big fan. He'd make his dad to the TV, whatever, just sign this ball for him, whatever, take a pick if you don't mind. Yeah, I got you. He signs the ball, the dude starts weeping. I've been waiting to meet you forever. I was like, oh my God, dude, I forget.

SPEAKER_06 44:28

Well, it's because John's so such a genuinely great big heart. You know what I mean? Like, and like, I mean, when you think about like, you know, there's famous people, there's famous athletes, right? But then there's that next tier. You know what I mean? Where it's like, when you think of basketball, you might never have seen a basketball game in your life, but you know Michael Jordan. Right. Right. You might never seen NASCAR. You know who Dale Earnhardt is. Yeah. You never might never watch golf ever a day in your life. You know who John Daly is. Yeah. I've never watched golf that in my life. And and yeah, you know John D. He has a stay, man, that when you're hanging out with him and he's just Well, he does it so different. He's just such a good dude, you know, that it's it's like he's uh it's almost sometimes where I go, I don't know if he realizes. You know what I mean? Like Al I don't think he does. Because dude, uh I've we you've seen it, dude. We're hanging out old Hick. It ain't like John's hanging out in like a private room.

unknown 45:25

Right.

SPEAKER_06 45:25

Right? We're like roped off in like security guard. We're hanging out on the patio where in the middle of the mix.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

In the middle of the in the middle of the patio, you know, that's how you have to do it. That's kind of how I am. It's like I don't you can hang out in a fucking green room. But I like to be out in the like in the frame. In the mix of it, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_06 45:44

And dude, I've seen gu golf dudes golfing and they're walking in, you know, talking shit to each other, whatever about to go, you know, get a another transfusion at the bar and a club sandwich, you know, or whatever. And uh they'll walk by and you kind of see them kind of glance over and they go, they look it's John. I have seen dudes go to meet John and literally have to tell John, like 15 minutes later, all right, man, we gotta go inside.

SPEAKER_05 46:10

You know what I mean? Like grab some food.

SPEAKER_06 46:12

These dudes who were just kind of nervous to walk up and say, hey, John just has this ability, right, to like make everybody feel like you've known him in a genuine way, you know. And he truly cares, you know. Um loves music, loves music, dude. I mean, he I mean, yeah, he is so one of the most passionate dudes about music. And so he so same thing, man. Like I've gone out, you know, gone I've gone with John to a Hooters.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

Oh, yeah. That's like John Daly at a Hooters is like going to race a car with Arnard. RIP, yes. Yeah, yeah, before. Shout out.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Yes, yeah. Yeah, after would be crazy.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

It's unbelievable. Speaking of music too, and how much he loves it, John has Oh my God damn it, you gotta cut that one too. Oh, we're not cutting that.

SPEAKER_09 47:04

Please cut it. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_07 47:06

We're cutting that one.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

Speaking of music in John Daly, he's got an album coming out.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

I'm on it.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

You're on it. I'm on it. Are you singing on it? No, and I honestly I think I'm going to. I'm gonna go into the soundstage soon or wherever you cut those songs and and probably hop on one. I wrote three that that are coming out on it in the title track, Good Boy, which I think I need to.

SPEAKER_06 47:24

So you wrote Good Boy on that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

Is that you and Tyler? No, it was me and Nick Autry and Mike Fiorentino. No, I said that's sorry, Mike. That's not not the right way. Yeah. Good dude. Badass songwriter, badass producer. He's great. Um, I love all those guys. Mike, what's his name? But yeah, I think he's putting it out. Is it February?

SPEAKER_06 47:45

I think so.

SPEAKER_04 47:46

Yeah, February.

SPEAKER_06 47:47

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm one of them with him. That's gonna be awesome. It's great, dude. He's also like a guy like well, the other like the other night we were all good boys, you know, we FaceTime him and stuff, and he he like genuinely gives a shit about people and genuinely cares that people are having fun. Do you know what I mean? And like that's what that's what the hell are y'all doing? Playing hands easy. We need a bigger table. This is getting a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Speaking of music, too, you got some stuff you're working on. Yeah, I got some stuff I got. You saw people that in like five shows. What's the vibe though? What's like man? Um is it like similar to some of your hits?

SPEAKER_06 48:26

Is it is it kind of like a newer kind of like no, it was gonna be well, I I grew up playing like real traditional country music with my grandfather and my famous band, and that's what I still listen to, that's what I love. And when I signed my record deal, you know, country music just it had changed a lot, you know, and radio wasn't going to play stuff that wasn't in that vein.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

You know, yeah, I thought to chase Chase Rice with this a lot.

SPEAKER_06 48:52

Yeah. And so you kind of had a had to play the What do you gonna do, dude? You know what I mean? And so I mean, there would be times. I mean, I literally dude, we're having meetings about songs, and they're telling me it's too country for crazy country radio, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:06

I think that's it's seeing such a resurgence though now. Oh, yeah, absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_06 49:10

Yeah, Top and Max and Keith and those guys are awesome.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Yeah, I think um, yeah, there's something powerful about I think I think nowadays you can pretty much do whatever the hell you want. It's fucking good music.

SPEAKER_06 49:23

Just good music.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

It's kind of like Southern rock's back, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:26

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

That's the kind of van I'm trying to go in and traditional country's back. Yeah, that's why I'm trying to. Honestly, I think you call it the bro country, whatever, but that was some fucking tell me you haven't driven down a back road to cruise.

SPEAKER_06 49:41

Homie. Tyler and Brian love both those dudes, man. So good. You see them live when they were FGL, we did some shows with them. One, yeah, dude. I don't care who you are. Like, I never talk crap. The Bro Country era is that that's that was the catapult of making country music what it is right now, as far as like as far as big as it is. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, like never, never has so many, like they've always had crossover artists and stuff. But you've never had so many people want to be a part of country music, you know what I mean? Now all of a sudden it's like uh the attire, you know what I mean? The apparel's a new cool thing. You know what I mean? Like it's like country music. That broke country here is what that's what turned a lot of those people onto country, because for a long time it was like, I ain't gonna listen to country. It's you know, your wife left you, your dog died, and you know, you're drunk, you know, whatever. Now all of a sudden FGL comes out with cruise and all those songs, man, and they're just bangers, dude. They're just they're just great songs. And that, yeah, you you you're on you're cruising out a back road, you're on a on the water on a boat. You ain't gonna tell me you're gonna not put on cruise or you know, any of that stuff. No, you're lying. Yeah, and so that that airman.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

I can't tell you how many times I blared dirt road anthem.

SPEAKER_06 50:52

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

Good god.

SPEAKER_06 50:54

Did you ever hear Brandley's rap verse on it? Of course.

SPEAKER_03 50:56

Yeah, so good.

SPEAKER_06 50:58

That that that time, dude. You know, he also Bradley had my kind of party.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:03

And then when Al Dean cut it, I used to open my shows with my kind of party. I thought I was like such a huge Brantley fan, dude. It was my kind of party. Yeah, and I just want everybody to know, you know, sure. My role is my party. It's my kind of party. There it is. Yes, yeah, my foot down, you know, guess that boundaries layer on the table. You know what I mean? Throw her out there, yeah. And that makes the party change real quick. Oh, shit's getting weird. Dude, I remember like listening. I remember trying to make this set list up, you know, some original songs, and I was having to do covers on the hell I was. You know, I'm playing all these bars in Florida. And I remember I was just going, I'm I needed a show opener, so I'm just gonna, you know. I listened to Brantley's record, my kind of party. I was like, That's it. Have to. Have to, dude. So good. Have to. No one else is doing this. Nobody, nobody else is doing this. And then Al Dean cut both of them and made them freaking even more massive than than what they were. Um, but but yeah, dude, my thing, but yeah, my stuff's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of growth in it. It's gonna be a lot of uh a lot of maturity in this music, you know. Cool. A lot, a lot leaning more on what I you know moved to Nashville to do, or what got me wanting to play country music, you know. Like you listen to Merle Haggard's songs, dude, and you hear the honesty and the realness and the rawness of that songwriting, him and Chris Christofferson, and you know, uh uh, you know, Johnny Cash and those dudes wailing, you know. I mean, uh it won't be, you know, I'm not trying to like throw it back, you know, 100% because dude, I'm a product of the 90s still, too. You know what I mean? Like there's still that influence of different things, but but you say it was Southern Rock, dude. It's like my dad, when I was with my grandfather, we were listening to Ray Price and Bobby Bear and Porter Wagner, and those are the songs that we were playing when I was playing with him. But you get in the truck with my dad, and we're listening to Z Z Top and Alman Brothers and Leonard Skinner, and you know, uh, you know, Marshall Tucker band, and you know, uh all that stuff. So it was like, and then you're a product of the 90s, dude, where punk rock was huge. Bro country was great, blink, and nothing beats 90s country, dude. 90s, 80s country.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

2000s country, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:03

Like Tim McGraw.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

Tim McGraw and Brad Paisley, well, I guess I kind of George Strait.

SPEAKER_06 53:07

You kind of merge it. I agree with that. I think that mess them up. Yeah, it was like 90s. I mean that I meant that era too, but I agree with you.

SPEAKER_09 53:15

That was man, yeah, it was like, dude, that breathe was like one of those big crossover ones too that was hitting on the city. Yeah, that was hitting on the country charts, even on the like the open top 100. And like the super early like Zach Dumb bands, like and like Kenny Chesney.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Song that's like really like crazy good is from Texas.

SPEAKER_04 53:39

Dude, I was literally thinking like sing a Megan Maroney song. Oh my god. Come on. That was that was incredible. That was a good song. That was good. You came out. Oh, it's exciting. I I was thinking like a you know, like Whitley or we're gonna get we're gonna get surprised.

SPEAKER_09 53:57

We're gonna jam to something that we you know resonated with. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:02

He's from Texas. He's just right in it. Hey, dude. Lauren Watkins.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

Shania.

SPEAKER_06 54:11

There's two very different texts. But yeah, man, I think it's I think it's a good time for music, man. It's it's you know, the business is crazy. It's also a very weird time. It's a very weird time, dude. It's a weird time, like we were talking about nobody knows what the fuck. Nobody knows what's happening, nobody knows what works. There's eight different ways now to make it work, and all work, you know, in their own way, right? They have their own different struggles or whatever, you know. Um just never been that. You know, it's like you move to Nashville or you're you're you know, play in Texas, you get the record deal, you know, and then consumer-driven stuff. Yeah, yeah. Now it's like there's people. Uh who are we just talking about?

SPEAKER_03 54:50

Uh Ray Clay Strays and uh who else were we uh I mean Red Clay, fucking Wyatt Floors. Why you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 54:59

You got these independent dudes who are they're doing bigger numbers than most people on the radio, you know? And like one thing I think is cool about the change is I do feel it is putting the control in the hands of the fans of as far as like music and artists, they're able to find, you know, because it before it was like, dude, you could be there's there's it might be some dude out of some farm in Iowa, right? Who's better than everybody that you hear on the radio, but maybe he just doesn't have the ability to be able to move, right? He can't leave his family, he can't leave the you know what I mean, like a lot of stress on him, but this dude's unreal. Well, now he can take care of his family to stuff, and he'll post some videos, right? And just maybe see what happens. Well, then fans go, who the heck is this dude? You know, and that blows up. That would have never happened for sure years ago. You know, he would have had to move to Nashville, he would have had to do the you know, the song and dance and do all the things.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

Or go or uh go to Texas and play 250 fucking years. Yeah, or go and go play 250 days a year. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. For sure. That's such a weird I've said this all weekend, it's like such a weird different approach to things uh from Nashville to the red dirt American Texas scene. Yeah, like Texas and then or Texas scene and red dirt is just go go get a van and grind.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

And then all are like their Nashville, super precise. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:29

Like, I grew up the same way, man. It was like, dude, all I knew is I studied Wayland, I studied Haggard. I'd say I watched, you know, Loretta Lynn and her husband went around and took a record around, drove around the country, right? So I was like, all right, that's what I gotta do. I was raising a trailer in the woods, you know, like my my thing was like uh Code of Canada from Cross Lane Right.

SPEAKER_03 56:47

Oh, I love those yeah, yeah. I saw an I read one one day it was he was saying somebody asked him what to do, and it was go play in front of whoever for however much wherever.

SPEAKER_06 57:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

And that just stuck with me. It always has.

SPEAKER_06 57:04

Yeah, it's well, because there's nothing, dude.

SPEAKER_03 57:06

It's like it's like that I think we were talking sorry.

SPEAKER_06 57:08

That that time, right? When you get to play those shows, right? That's such a crucial part of a career, right? And and Joel's getting ready to release music for the first time, you know, and he's he's uh you know, gonna be playing shows, gonna be not that he has played shows, but that you know, well, this is your first time like promoting your own stuff on the room. For sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

It'll be my first time like full band playing my music.

SPEAKER_06 57:25

Yeah, playing your stuff, you know. So it's like when you go that time frame, dude, of the van, that time frame of playing these dive bars where no one knows who the hell you are, right? You're getting paid maybe a hundred bucks. Two guys have to sleep in the van because you can only afford one room. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 57:39

Like, we've talked about this all weekend, doing all this stuff. That's that's when you really get to connect with that's where you connect, that's where you read a crowd, that's where you go, you test songs, dude.

SPEAKER_06 57:49

You you mess up a little bit, dude. You know what I mean? You you you you get too drunk one. You learn from that. That's your college, you know. That's your that's your university of music. And then when you you know, God willing it works, and you grow, you grow and you get a bus. Maybe you have you a hit up radio, whatever. You will look back on that time.

SPEAKER_03 58:07

Oh, I've always I've always told my told my band I was like it was a I can remember it vividly. Uh we were driving through the mountains in Colorado, I think, for the first time, and I was like, I looked around and I was like, damn, this is like a fucking movie. Yeah. And I was like, guys, this is we're doing it. This is this is the best times of what this is gonna ever be.

SPEAKER_06 58:30

Yes. Because there dude I there was no bullshit. There's no bullshit. There's something of of uh was it um um ignorance is bliss. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like you're you don't really know what dude. I remember like we've loaded in a van, dude. My drummer was our tour manager. Yeah none of us knew what a tour manager did. You know what I mean? None of us knew that. I would sell I would sell my own merch after the show. He's wearing it too, you know. We're all traffic. He's just happy to have it on his hotel. But we're also happy to have it on his LinkedIn profile. Two-year-old kids from a small town in Florida with a van and a trailer thing parts of the house.

SPEAKER_03 59:03

In a and a world to conquer.

SPEAKER_06 59:05

In a world to conquer. And we're just playing wherever, dude, and we're same thing, dude. We'd be going through the van. We're dead ass, bro. I'm we're five dudes in a two-bedroom apartment. Half of us are sharing the tour van as a vehicle, like as an everyday ride-along thing. But you have that moment, man. It's like you're doing it. Yeah, you know, and and and everybody that, and you've met them, you've met them, you've met them. People that in our world, right? Everybody, everybody wants to be an athlete, right? Wants to know what's like to hit the home run in World Series, right? Everybody wants to know wants to be the rock star, even when you're a kid, right? Or an astronaut, you know, or something like that, right? Then as life goes on, life hits, you gotta get a job. You know, that musician thing doesn't really.

SPEAKER_03 59:54

Uh takes balls, dude.

SPEAKER_06 59:56

Oh, follow a dream. Dude. To to to have because it's all something no matter where you start, whether it's music, any business. There's no guarantee. It starts here. There's no guarantee this is gonna work, you know. And it the longer you got, or the longer it takes, you're still going. And then you hit a spot where you're like, well, hell yeah, I can't stop now, dude. Can't go back, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

I I'm too dumb to quit. Yeah, he said, yeah, there is no plan B. I jumped in both feet, you know what I mean, in the deep end.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:23

But that's also how you gotta do it, you know. And so you you see, like I was I remember kind of a similar thing, telling my guys in Van Like, dude, somewhere right now, there's some dude in some high-rise place in New York, he's a stockbroker, right? That ain't what he laid up wake at night, dreaming about. Yeah, you know what I mean. He wanted to he wanted to play guitar in a heavy metal band.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

Yeah, you know, astronaut.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:48

You want to be like, that's what he stayed up at night, dreaming about, you know?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:53

And even though we're in a van and we're gonna go to this crappy bar where there'll probably be 50 people there, 20 of them work there, five of them was us. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know, no one gives a shit. You know, that guy would love just to ride with us in this van and do it one night.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:11

Yeah. You know, and then you get to and then you get to go like bro, it's I I I don't know who I said it to, one of y'all, but I was like, guys, it's it's a Monday. Motherfuckers are waking up tomorrow to go to their job.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:25

Yeah, we were talking about that. It's like how lucky are we? Yeah, yeah. Like we're gonna get we're gonna wake up, go kill geese, we're gonna go sit outside by a fire, yeah, drink eight milliliter lights, and write two songs. Yeah. We live the best life ever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

And it's not real. It's crazy. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:40

Well, also, what's wild is like you get to be a you get to be a part of something that's bigger than us. It's it's God, it's music, it's why you know music breaks boundaries, it's why, you know, uh you might you might not be able to speak the language, right? But you'll still sell out. Yeah, they'll still show up, you know what I mean? And they don't even speak language, you're in a whole nother country, you know. And we get to be a part of stuff just like artists that we grew up listening to were a part of our lives. That song was a part of your summer. That song, Kenny Jessney, no shoes, no shirt, no problems record, bro. Wore it out. I bought a Puka Shell necklace and a white beach cabin, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:10

Hold on. Did you have bleach tips at one point in your life? No.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:14

No, no, you can't. This hair dog, dude. This hair's not gonna listen. This is like you ever killed a hog?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

You're more like the dollar general, Channing Tatum. No! This three drinks. I love you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:25

Hey, I will tell you that you're the target, Channing Tatum. That's a compliment.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

Yeah, it is. I agree. Thank you. Joe Coley, uh, do not do not get any of his stuff. Uh, John, he's actually he's actually looking for a new job.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:39

Channing Tatum ever built slayed geese with me. Hey, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:43

And you're better looking.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:44

Thanks, man. You know what? Thank you. Do you want to switch seats? Yeah, I wish you would.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:48

Actually, also, yeah, I wish. Actually, let's do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:53

Musical chairs. Musical chairs here. Alrighty, just went out, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:59

That's actually what the next thing I was gonna do was.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:01

Well, shit. Oh, oh, these vodka sodas are well, you know. I was gonna see if maybe, you know, when we do our tour together, you know, maybe we get Joel, but he just doesn't he doesn't lift us up like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

Yeah, see?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

I love you guys. I pray for you guys every day.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:17

Why'd you get so serious right now? Why'd you just get so serious? Why did y'all take seats? No. Why'd we get so serious?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:26

Oh, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:27

I pray yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:28

I pray for you guys. He wanted to be close to you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

Yeah, because I said you looked at it. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:32

He started talking about how pretty you are, then wanted to sit next to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Wait, should we switch the mics though? Nope. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:37

Nope, we're good. Nope. He's a grower.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

He's a grower. Just when that uh I got a powerful voice.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:44

I don't need to worry about where the microphone setting is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:46

You do have that like natural, like, did you ever do radio? Radio. A little, yeah, actually. I could hear you this morning, 937. The box.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:57

I mean, I mean, also a lot of podcasts. But yeah, I did uh Kentucky. I did Kentucky pregame football last year. Oh, that's sick. So do you guys want to snuggle for a minute?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:13

Maybe.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:17

I haven't seen a dream in about a month. Just close your eyes. Will you just hold me real quick?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:28

Move your beard. What the fuck? Dude, this has been a fun trip.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:38

LSLs are gonna go up three. Dude, well, at least at least four.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:44

At least four. Yeah. She's from right here. Gonna be buying me dinner, right? Whoa. Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

You know.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:54

Yeah, you're you're he'll end up paying her LMO.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:56

Yeah, do you know I actually have a song with Ella Wingley? I know. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned it twice already.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:03

Some would say beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Yeah, lies. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful lies. Yeah, beautiful lies.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:09

Like when we tell Joel he's pretty. Joel is pretty.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

That mustache, dude.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:16

Yeah, you look like a Dollar General, Jeffrey Dahmer. Whoa. That's crazy. That's insane.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:24

That's insane. All my friends to make you feel better than that. It looks like a dollar general, Dale and Hart. They say Walmart, Morgan Wallin, but I love cooking, and this is the best shit. All my buddies, like my hometown buddies, I love cooking when I was like little and we always used to cook and stuff, or be at like the deer camp, I'd be like, the guy's like 12. And I was like, let me cook the steaks, let me cook the steaks. And I'm like Googling it on my dad's Dell laptop, like, you know, what to do, like when to pull it, how long to rest, all this shit. And so they used to call me Gordon Ramsey, and then I started writing songs, and they were like, oh, little mustache, like he wants to be Morgan Wallen. So every single one of my friends call me Gordon Wallen. Damn. And they love it. And I'm like, stop. And they love it.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:03

Yeah. He's gonna be a cool dad one day, you know? Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:07

I appreciate that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:08

Speaking of which, you got that song.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

Yeah, the Call Mine Dad one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:13

Oh, that is a great song, dude. Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:15

I'll put that one out this year for sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:17

Yeah. You have any what's your what's like your socials and stuff for everybody to know?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:21

Joel Cooley Music. Coolie. Coolie than you.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:25

Coolie. What was a pump song back in the day?

SPEAKER_09 1:06:31

It's really weird that cool is now shivering more that they're next to each other. I think they're playing football. Yeah, it is rattle. It is just I mean, you just feel it. Tanner's side too is like lifting up.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:41

It's like, oh my god. But his hands are up here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:44

Listen, bro, when you put this much talent and man together, it's an energy display.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:48

It's just a lot of man.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:50

I am the only one with hands on the table right now. Dude's lost almost every button. What did he lose every button?

unknown 1:06:59

He's like a wee.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:01

I thought it couldn't get any hairier. John open.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:05

So here we look like. Hey, speaking of which, should we go cook something? For sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:11

Here in a little bit. I think we should. What's his chef's name? Chad? Chad? Clint. Clint. Clint. It's Chad. I'm so close to the cadet. John assumed that. I failed history twice. Huh?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:22

No, it's Clint. I've been calling this guy Clint for two days. It's Chad. No, it's Clint. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:28

I don't know where you're fucking with me or not. No, I'm not. Yes. It's Clint. It was literally on his fucking like bib. It's Chet. It's Clint. Chad. You wanna bet? How much?$100. Nacho plate. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

Boy, I can make some nachos.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:46

Alright, we're gonna go quick. I'll bet you Ella Langley's number. That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:50

That's for he's got a song.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:52

You know how much bet funnier it would be if I if he gave it to somebody else and then he knew and didn't have it?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:57

Are you an Ella pretty tight?

unknown 1:07:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:59

Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, she's great.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

I met her a few times, but she's a fucking gangster.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:03

Yeah. Oh, out of out of out of her His League then.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:07

No, she's a fucking gangster. She's it's so like we did that song, and it was crazy because I was like, I saw her turn in, or like, because we were taking pictures, videos, and singing, and I was like, this is the first like it was crazy because I would just watch her go from a singer to a model to a fucking business owner, like in real time. It was fucking nuts. She's she's a dog forced to be reckoned with for sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:39

She's crushing it right now, man.

unknown 1:08:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:42

She's from Texas until by the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Damn it. Where can people find you? Uh Tanner Rusher Music. Uh, or Tanner Rushery, I'm the only one. So that's right. Original baby host. Well, no, I'm actually I'm actually literally the only Tanner Ushery in the world.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:01

Really? Yeah. My name's Michael Ray. That is the most whitest name in the world.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

So I was a skip tracer, right? Uh Bindy looks up in on the Car notes. Yeah. I looked myself up and I was like, yeah, I am the only one. It's cool. But Michael Ray, that you want to know something.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:16

So the final time I record deal, right? If I put out a song on radio, I get iHeart, uh push, right? Everything's working great. I used to sneak out and listen on Sundays to hear who was on the top, on the countdown, who was number one, you know, on Sundays. The chart that comes out, right? We're gonna be top 40. The photo, your name, the song, you know, billboard. When you go through the billboard all the way up to 40, where I was, it's you know, Carrie Underwood. It's a photo of Carrie. Kip Moore, it's a photo of Kip, right? You ought to mind. There's an uh African-American trumpeter named Michael Ray.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:01

He's holding it like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:02

Yeah, there sure it is, and then it's kind of like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:07

It was that photo. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:09

Tell him the picture in the morning recording underneath it. I got I worked my whole life for this one moment, and then I remember my grandfather was an absolute smart ass. And I was like, grandpa's probably up there in heaven going, hey, can we just do one thing real quick? It's gonna be funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:24

We finally got it.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:27

Hey, just the look on his face would have been classical. There's nothing better. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:32

Oh, dude, this guy's gonna trump it up. Look it up, I'm telling you. Two, hey, before we do with Coolie, uh, Coolio.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:40

Hey, cool in the game or whatever. Before two, we shut the shop down. You have to tell everybody real quick, because I think you told me maybe like a year ago, but then you were telling Toby about it earlier. That Opry story with your granddad and the guitar is like one of the good stories. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:03

On billboard. I can't, I'm gonna bill in.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:06

Yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:09

I've never been that happy in my life.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:12

I'll tell you what, I wasn't happy when I finally got a song on billboard. So Michael Ray is a very common name.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:25

You guys are just trying to share everything tonight. Listen, brothers don't shake hands, brothers got a hug.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:31

Uh yeah, it's getting weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:33

Real quick before we go, yeah. So that so my grandfather, he he he was my big influence on my whole family, uh, everybody up. I got a I have a cousin of mine um who was actually in Texas, his name is Jesse Roach. Um, torn out here. Got my cousin Billy, who's into Christian music, you know, like everybody's because my grandfather, you know what I mean? Like it all spread through. So me and him were really close. And you know, I just thought, like, hey man, I don't know how you connect Eustace Florida to the Opry, but if I ever do, you're gonna play it with me, you know. And uh about a month before that, we're playing, uh, I got a call that he had had a heart attack and and that he was on life support. So I had a I actually had a show at House of Blues two days after we pulled that was House of Blues Orlando. Okay. And uh it was the show where Warner was bringing all of radio. Warner had you could they take people to Disney World, they took people and we did the whole deal, you know. All these massive radio dudes, right? My grandpa passes away, and uh Chris Lacey at Warner, and uh lady named Rebecca uh Gordon is her last name now. Uh they flew down to they flew down to and we're at my house, dude. When we're out I'm making my grandpa's slideshow with my cushion, we're writing as a bitch where you know they were there, and Chris was like, Hey, listen, like you obviously don't have to play this show. You know what I mean? Like it's uh, you know, and I go and I thought about it for a second, I was like, No, he'd want me to. Yeah, yeah, there's no way I'm not. You know what I mean? Like if my grandpa was here right now, he'd be like, What are you doing? Yeah, no, no, fucking. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing you you can get to do. You get you get your ass on that stage. And so I took that Gibson 335 and I had a spotlight put on it, and we kept it on the on the stage the whole time, you know. It was one of the craziest shows, dude. And and you know, my my grandmother was there, and it was all the radio guys. So anyway, uh he passed, and then fast forward a couple weeks later, we're playing Barclays Arena in in uh uh Brooklyn, New York. And I get an email from my post that time, and they were all stoked because everybody knew how important the Opry was to me. You know, it was like the history of it. I grew up watching it, I studied it, you know. Uh you know, me and my grandpa would watch VHS, old, old, you know, of uh string bean and grandpa jones and mini pearl and all this. And so that's truly like you know, CMA world would be awesome, ACM Award would be awesome. But honestly, yeah, my that's only only thing I ever truly in my heart care about as far as an award goes to somebody is to be an opera member one day.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

You know, that's it is Opry and the Rhyman are probably two of my biggest career milestones for me.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:09

Yeah, yeah, there's nothing like it, man. And so my you know, I'm all my team's pumped, you know what I mean? Because they're like, hey, he's finally gonna we're finally gonna go with the opera, you know? Stepping in that circle. And so, but it was two weeks after, you know, we just buried my grandpa, and I'm like, man, dude, it was a part of me. I was like kind of pissed. Kind of bald my eyes. You know what I mean? Oh, I did. I was back such a Barclay arena, dude, like balling my eyes. Uh so I picked April 24th, which is the closest date to his birthday, it was April 27th. Oh, fuck. And uh, and so I said, Well, man, I how can I do this, right? I want to honor you know, my everybody first off, I'm pretty sure everybody in Eustace Florida came like like dude. I I made a joke on the upper stage. I was like, well, if you wanted to rob a place, Eustace is probably the place to go. Everybody's here, right? Dude, I had people that didn't even tell me that they were there. They texted me after. You know what I mean? Hey man, you crushed it. They made the trip and never even told me that they were there just to be there because that whole town wrapped their arms around me. I was playing bars and you know, all that stuff. So, yeah, a lot of people spent a lot of years you know, into my career and helping me a lot. And so I thought, well, how can I do that? So I that Gibson 335, he played for six years. Any photo you ever seen of my grandpa playing, that was that guitar. Yeah. So I thought, well, he can't be here. But that guitar is for sure. And so my opera debut, my first song, I was just me and that guitar in the circle. We played Green Green Grass at home, Porter Wagner's version of it because that's what we played a lot in their band. And uh, so it was a really special moment. And one of the funniest things, I finished the song, which is very hard to get through. You know what I mean? I had my first time, very tough, you know. And I look over, and my dad is standing there. Oh no, my grandmother's in a wheelchair, oh no, sitting there. My uncle Terry's there, my stepmom, you know, everybody's there. My sister, I think my sisters were actually sitting, they might have been, they weren't backstage yet. And I look over, and right when I'm about to get emotional in this moment of like, God dang, dude, my grandpa almost made, you know, all this stuff. I look up and I go, is that Ricky Skag standing by my grandmother? And it was just like this like moment that God gave me to like laugh, you know? Yeah. And I remember going, like, what is life, dude? Like telling you, dude, it's not real. Vince Gill standing next to my Uncle Terry. The funniest thing. So my Uncle Terry was, he passed away. He was a very um artistic dude. Like, he could make anything. He played bass in our family band when it came to drawing, airbrushing, anything. When it came to art, he could make anything.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very artistic. Stop putting it there, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

Where do we put it? I'm right-handed. Are you left-handed?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:49

I can't do anything right now. I'm out.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:52

Where do you let me put it? That's for a little later.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:00

So my uncle, he would. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:03

He would travel. Him and my aunt and my cousins, they'd go around powwow circuits, right? And he would, he had full TP and everything, dude. Oh, yeah. Like the whole deal he made. Well, he made this necklace, right? And it was like I think like bear claw and all this stuff, and he made it, right? Well, my dad would always kind of like give him crap about it, right? And my dad's like, Terry, are you wearing this at the Opry? You know? Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. Terry didn't give a crap. Terry didn't give a shit. He's like, Yeah. My dad's like, you can't wear that at the Opry, you know? Yeah. And Terry's like, well, I don't know. I'm already here and I'm doing it. I'm already here. You know, and he's their brother, you know, they're yeah, they were paramedic EMTs on the same man, but they were like this, you know. So they were always talking crap. Vince Gill goes. I introduced Vince Gill to my dad and my uncle. My Vince goes, Man, that's a really cool necklace you got, dude. That's awesome. And Terry just looks at my dad.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:50

He's like, which my dad still tells that story this day because he was like, All right, maybe I was wrong.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

I don't know. You know, I'll walk on the opera stage wearing a fur coat. I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:02

One of the coolest was uh that fur coat. My my dad, my dad was lead singer in our family band. My uncle was sing harmony and play bass. And so at the time they had ATT had did this deal with uh the opera they for your debut, they kind of followed you around for the day, dolls.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:17

They still do that. Yeah, do they still do that?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:19

Yeah, yeah. And so I asked they say we won't get you stepping in it for the first time. And I was like, Well, I'm not gonna do it until I have my dad and my uncle. And we're all in that three gonna step in together at the same time. And uh so we got a photo now. My uncle's you know, he's passed, so it means even more. But yeah, there's a photo. My dad, me, my uncle Terry, big bear clawed necklace, dude standing in his face. I need to see this. Oh, I got I'll find out. I gotta, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:44

My dumb ass jumped. I did a little hop into the circle for that video, and I feel so stupid. But you know, hey, if you see sharks, jump in. Yeah, but I don't know if that's how that goes. Well, you know, never heard that. Never heard that.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:59

It's very dangerous. Yeah, who's giving you advice?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:02

Yeah, you don't have your best favorite, your best interest in favor. Uh but yeah, man, yeah, so thanks, man. Uh, but yeah, so that's a my story with the Opry. Now I've played it 87 times. Incredible. God's great. That's wild, man. It's a cool, it's still crazy. I still go there early, you know? Yeah, sure. Just hang out. Popcorn. Pop's so good. And this tea. Yes. Great lemonade. Great lemonade. Yeah, for sure. It's awesome. You never know who's gonna be there. Yeah, you know, yeah. Uh yeah. Somebody's just walking into your room. It's really cool. It's like next door you might hear like Del McCurry band practicing.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:37

You know what I mean? It's just I think my first time, my debut, it was American Aquarium headlining when American Aquarium is up there for me. Yeah, yeah. Uh and that was it was fucking sick. So when was your debut, dude? Uh August, I can't August something 2023, I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:58

Oh, so it was a couple years ago. It was pretty recent.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:59

Yeah, I played I played like three or four times a year.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:01

Oh, that's awesome, yeah. Yeah, there's nothing like it, dude. Yeah, no, for sure. It's awesome. I still get emotional over time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:06

So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:07

Is that one of those places, man? It's like you play some venues like we're talking about, like Red Rocks or you know, the Opry and the Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:13

But the Ryman, dude, that's I got to I got to open up for Shane Smith there a couple years ago, and that's that's still like damn. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm like, yeah, it's in your face. Well, we're gonna headline it and sell it out.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:29

Yeah, we're manifesting it right now on offstage America. Guys, love you guys. Thank y'all. Appreciate you guys. What a great trip, dude. Uh, Toby, Cadillac Creek. Whoa. It's empty, guys. Don't worry about it. Oh, oh, nice. Cadillac Creek. Product placement. Yeah. Um podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:47

Yeah, you come to Cadillac Creek Creek and uh kill a bunch of the geese.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the geese. Y'all don't forget if you're watching this, y'all check out if you're a waterfowl hunter, bird hunter, Calad Creek.com. You all gotta come here. It's awesome. Awesome business. Toby's great, the whole crew's awesome. Uh, we've had a great time, man. I'm so glad that I finally got to meet you, bro. I feel like I got a brother for life, and we're gonna make some music together. We're gonna be riding with this fool when he's not slinging cubs with John Daly. And uh just grateful for you guys, man. Thank y'all so much. Love you guys. Thank y'all so much for tuning in.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:18

We'll see y'all next time.