Offstage America
Offstage America is Michael Ray like you’ve never heard him before.
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This show lives where real life happens, on the road, on the porch, in the woods, at the table. Michael sits down for honest conversations about the things that actually matter: family, faith, the outdoors, sports, music, mental health, giving back, and what it means to build a life you’re proud of.
Guests range from fellow artists, athletes, celebrities and veterans to everyday Americans with real stories worth hearing. Some you’ll recognize instantly. Others you’ll be glad you met here first.
Michael brings a rare perspective from someone who’s toured nationally, topped charts, lived the highs of success, and still stayed rooted in who he is and where he comes from. That makes the conversations relaxed, unfiltered, and real. The kind of conversations that don’t happen on stage or in interviews.
Offstage America isn’t about hype. It’s about real people. It’s about life off the stage and the stories that shape us when no one’s watching.
Offstage America
Canceled Flights, Wrong Doors, AI Madness & Full Send Chaos
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Michael, Paul, and Brady catch up after a week that somehow included a Florida show, a Texas ad shoot, a birthday trip, a canceled flight, a five hour panic drive to North Carolina, and Michael accidentally trying to get into the wrong Airbnb before realizing he was three minutes away from the right one.
The guys get into the nightmare that flying has become, why driving sometimes feels safer than dealing with airports, how expensive everything has gotten, and how much life has changed for their generation. From AI getting a little too real, to cast iron cooking, beef tallow, grounding, kids, family, work, and trying to keep up with a world that keeps moving faster, this episode is all over the place in the most honest way.
It is funny, chaotic, and real. Just three guys catching up, telling stories, and talking through the madness of life right now.
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SPEAKER_04What's up? Offstage America. Sorry, I sound like this. Um, not gonna lie. I ate something, grew up last night, and uh my voice has not been been all the been been at at 100. But uh, you know, we keep it real, keep it real here. Uh anyway, um so I know that there's a little bit of a layout difference, but um everybody's been so busy and we're trying to keep this uh going. Um, also while I'm making a new record, Paul's got things going on, Brady's got things going on. So bear with us on this the first couple months of this because uh we're kind of trial and error and also just doing what we can with what we can at the time. So uh we love doing this, and uh, we got a lot bigger things coming up once we get some things uh lined up. None of us, well, Brady and I live in the same place, but old Paul Wall's in Kentucky. So uh so thank y'all for joining us. We just like doing this. We want to do a little catch-up and uh see how everything's doing this weekend was pretty crazy for me. Whole week, actually.
SPEAKER_01It's uh you sound you sound like you you hit puberty. I'm not gonna lie. A little bit. It's got a little squeak in the voice.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02A little squeaky, a little squeaky.
SPEAKER_04You know, Paul, when someone calls out their shortcoming, you can't come back talking shit. Yeah, I took it out of it out, so I took this I took the wind out of your sails.
SPEAKER_01It's it just it's just it's different. I'm it's not bad. It's just no, I threw up. You you did have a long uh an interesting weekend. Why don't you tell us about your uh your weekend?
SPEAKER_04Uh well last Saturday, last Saturday, dude. We we played this play. I played this acoustic show at um Margaritaville RV in Arbundale, Florida, which pole county is uh like I'm from Lake County, but pole county lake county is where everything you know really blew up for me in pole county 97.5 first place, first radio station to play me, Sarah Michaels and Boots and Buckles and Bebos and all these places, all of Arbundale and all of Pole County really wrapped their arms around me like like I'm from there. I feel like I'm like the adopted, the adopted son, you know. So um it was cool to be back there. This place is sick, dude. Uh it's it's like this up, it's an RV park with like cabins around it, with pools and food and restaurants, and I mean all this stuff that had this big uh pole barn area where we had a big show at. And it was also for my boy, uh, old boy Chad Ward, Whiskey Bent Barbecues, uh, hosted a big barbecue competition. And so they had that going on out there. So this is where every this is where this became a very long week for me, Paul. And uh and I didn't I didn't know it was gonna I didn't realize some turn of events. So I drove down there because the airlines were so screwed up right now. If it's six hours, you might as well drive. And I've been flying all the time. So I was like, well, I'll just drive on down. So I drive down, see my family and everybody, hang out, play the show. Show's great. If you're down in that area, you're a camper, you're an R V, you just want to get away with the kids. If you're in that area, they also have day passes too. Um, places place is awesome. Mr. Randy and all his family that run it are great. So I hung out with those guys, drove back Sunday. That drive felt like it took me 17 hours, and then I had to fly to Texas to shoot uh an ad campaign um with Born Primitive, which is this incredible uh apparel line um owned by a veteran. Uh they support veterans, uh, very in line with what we do. So uh they're using two of my songs for their 250th uh launch.
SPEAKER_02That's great.
SPEAKER_04And so uh so they they asked me to be a part of their ad. So Alan, my manager and I flew down there day of shot with them. It went great, got back or got back next day, flew in, and then it was my birthday on on Thursday. So Adrena found this place that looked like you were in Costa Rica, like an hour north of here. Didn't even like you were in Georgia anymore. Um, so I hung out there for a couple days, and then Friday I had a show in North Carolina in uh Pinehurst.
SPEAKER_01So And you drove there, right?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, that was not part of the plan though. Um, so I I had I got to the airport park, part of my truck. I've I'm I carry on, I'm there for one day. I'm like, carry on my guitar, I'm walking up to the clear TSA pre-line, you know, and uh get my my app, get my ticket, and then it says boarding 4 50 p.m. And I said that's not right. So I redo it, says it again, and then it says rebooked across the top of it. No email, no nothing from Delta, nothing. So I go to the dude, the baggage claim, and I was like, hey bro, I don't know what this is, but like this isn't an option, right? I have a I have to be at a place tonight at a certain time. And um there's no easy flights from Atlanta to Raleigh, right? But if I would have landed in Raleigh, I had to eat to go an hour and a half drive anyway. So that's what really messed me up. He goes, I said, Man, I was on the 1015 flight and he's doing his little computer thing, and he goes, There is no 1015 flight. I said, Yes, there is. There was a 1015 flight because I booked it and I checked and I report. And uh he goes, I don't see any 1015 flight. I said, Hey man, listen, I know this isn't your fault, you're doing your job. This is coming from higher up. However, a little common sense here. If I have a 520 p.m. flight, why am I here at nine in the morning trying to board? You just love the airport. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like I tell you what, if you like vodka sodas, try paying$30 for one. It'll make it makes them taste even better. You like if you want anything, any sort of food, or you want you want to try to eat a little healthy that protein bar that you already bitch about at the gas station when you have to buy it? That's double that. I love it's my favorite place in the world, dude. There, and then you know, I don't even they need it. Disney needs to change their name, dude. Happiest place on earth, Atlanta Airport.
SPEAKER_03Atlanta Airport for sure.
SPEAKER_04So I say this is dude, and you can say that in his mind, I kind of got him. You know, he's like, ah, you got me. So he calls manager lady over. She's looking, she goes, Man, this is weird. Yeah, there's absolutely no reason, but they just completely rebooked your entire flight. They just put everybody on other flights, didn't say anything. So they just put me on the 515 flight. Well, I'm sitting there, I'm like, that's not an option. There is no other option to get me there. So I'm like, screw it. Look at the look at the address where I have to go, it's five and a half hours. So then I I just haul butt down to North Carolina, get there just in time to sound check, change, and get on stage, and then uh drove back. So I've I've done about 3,000 miles unexpectedly on my in my truck this week.
SPEAKER_03And uh you left out the best part of that story, though.
SPEAKER_04And it gets better, and it gets better. So I'm headed. So uh Jody and everybody. Um the the show Friday night was uh a charity that's really close to my heart, and uh we raised it, they raised a lot of money for veterans. So Miss Jody and her team were like, hey, we got you an Airbnb, and it's across the street, right? It's like two minutes, so it's perfect. Don't worry about it. We're gonna get here. Appreciate you driving. I'll go, hey, this is all gonna be good. He sent me the address. I copy paste, Paul. I never I didn't type because I was like, I'll mess something up and I end up in the wrong place. I copy paste it into the maps. I go to this address, it's house, beautiful little house. I was like, it's a little overkill, but maybe it's somebody that they know, you know. I go up to the front desk that says the address on it, 160 house number, whole deal. I go up there, knock on the door, no one answers, check it, locked. I look down, bunch of greenery, fake plants around. There's a there's a key lock and it's unlocked. So I open the key lock, no key. So I'm moving plants around, I'm picking up the mat, right? Keep in mind, I you know when you're driving and you have to pee so bad, but you're like, I'm 20 minutes away, I'm not gonna stop. This is dumb, right? Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_03So I in my mind, I'm automatically as soon as you get to where you're going, he gets 10 times. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04In my mind, my body's already like, yeah, I'm about to everything in me. He said we had 20 minutes. Give me five to get in the door and I'll take care of this. Well, that I'm moving on something and it's getting worse and worse, right? So then I go, maybe it's a side door, right? So I go to the side door, screen door, try to open, locked, go to the garage side door, locked, go back to the front door, moving stuff around. I go, I don't see a key anywhere, right? So I text them back, I say, Hey, sorry, I said, Do y'all know where the key for the Airbnb would be? They send me a code, they said, Oh, just punch this code in to unlock the door. Well, I'm standing at the front door and I'm looking at it and I go, There's no key, there's no pack, key, there's no punch pad or whatever you want to call it, keypad on this door. So I go, man, and a whole time, bro. And now I am at the I am like about 12. This is bad, right? It's not good. And I go around the back and I'm like counting seg. I'm like, ha, please be a code. I didn't see or keypad. I didn't see nothing. Go to the garage side, nothing. Now at this point, we are in we are we are in the bottom, we're bottom of the bottom of the fourth year, dude. And I'm like, so I pee on this bush right inside of the house. I go back to the front door, look all around the door, move around. There's a ring doorbell camera here, right? They send me the address again. Paul, I click the address, and then Google Maps goes, You are three minutes away. It was not my Airbnb at all. I I I so somebody has a ring doorbell camera of me trying to get in their house, rearranging their plants.
SPEAKER_01I feel like we need to put out an APB to get that. I feel like we really need to get our hands on this.
SPEAKER_04I think uh I think that I'm probably on the neighborhood, Pinehurst neighborhood, watch Facebook. Oh, yeah, he's circulating, uh circulating the group in a house. You know how you can just tell that's probably an old lady's house. You know, that's what this house looked like. The only thing I think that's saving me is is I hate to thumb text while voice text. So that the ring camera definitely got that. But I I'm I don't I'm I'm I'm 6040 on the whole P and on the side of the house in the bush, thinking they got better.
SPEAKER_01But I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It's uh they have cameras all around.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, lady, the greatest thing in the world is when what one day you get a random text from me and it's just Michael pissing in the bushes in the fire.
SPEAKER_03Bro, bro, you made the news, dude.
SPEAKER_04I texted, I texted, texted Judy. I was like, uh, ladies, I'm sorry, I but I have a very funny story to tell you guys, and I kind of need y'all to be a part of this early on just in case cops show up at the show.
SPEAKER_03I need somebody on my side, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So that was my week. That was all that was on seven days, Paul.
SPEAKER_01That's that's a lot.
SPEAKER_04But uh, but it was fun though. It was great. Um trying to think of anything else. We just been I got a lot of acoustic stuff coming up. We got a real busy May. Um end of May. I'm doing a uh tuna fishing trip with Finns and Feathers, my buddies Chad Mendez and Clay Bleed's organization that I fish and hunt a lot with. So going out there in the end of May, supposedly tuners are supposed to be popping, so we will see. I don't know. Never caught a tuna. Never caught a tuna. They're catching like some of them are like 110, 120 pounds, 90 pound tuners are freaking huge. The yellow finish. They're taller than we are, dude. Like you hold them up yellowfin tuna? Huh? Oh, the yellow fin or bluefin? Bluefin. Oh, you you you can't you you'll catch some yellow once in a while out there. But what's great about these boats is you pull that out and you give it to the chef and he makes sushi right off. Oh, that's and it's so good. So have you ever been off? Have you ever been off? You've been offshore fishing, though, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of times, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's awesome. We go like three days off in the middle of the ocean, dude. And you're and what's cool about it is like you are it's 24-hour fishing. Like anybody that's watching this that's done these type of trips, they know. So you it might be two in the morning, right? But that captain, you know, they their whole team's watching, and so if they see if they were coming up on a school, dude, you're you're in your little bunk room, and all of a sudden it sounds like honestly, it sounds like when they announce anything on an airplane, somehow we have chargers, but it's still no good speakers on airplanes. I don't get it, yeah. But on this boat, you just hear fish on boys, fish on, fish on, and then all of a sudden, whoever's everybody's just half sleep, yeah. It's awesome, man. It's so much fun. But um, but yeah, that's it. Was that San Francisco? Oh, I go off San Diego.
SPEAKER_03San Diego, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I gotta fly. I got a show in Vegas on the 23rd. My first full band show of the year, so I'm pretty stoked. Oh, that's awesome. Uh, and then next day fly to San Diego, then fly, or then hop on the boat.
SPEAKER_01So we're gonna it's gonna be your favorite thing in the world, just airports, airports, airports. I pretty much live there, bro.
SPEAKER_03He is this man has the worst look at the world.
SPEAKER_04You would think with as much love I show these, you know, with as much financial love, not really, because I I I under my breath put it put them down a lot, but maybe it's a vibe I'm sending.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I I had a very unfortunate airport experience a week ago as well, so I totally understand.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm racking like three or four a month. Yeah, this man still has a bag for the biggest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh well, I'm in so I'm in uh I'm in Orlando two days from now, and I'll be I'll be there for four days, then I'll be in Dallas the next week and Fort Myers the week after that. I was supposed when I was going to San Antonio a week a week and a half ago, I was on the flight. I drive to Louisville anyway because it's like$900 to fly out of Lexington, stupid half the time. Drive Lexington, drive there, sit on the plane, and they're like, Oh yeah, like uh we have to go back to the gate because we don't have a part. Well, um, they were gonna have to fly across weather, and the weather radar wasn't working. Had nothing to do with the fucking plane, right? It's just like the weather radar. They're like, Well, they gotta fly the part in.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_01The flight gets delayed seven hours. I'm supposed to be there in like five. Yeah. It takes me ten different kinds. See, I stoop uh stoop and I flew American, never doing this again.
SPEAKER_04Well, you can't they all of them, all of them are it doesn't matter which one you pick. Me too. Me too. You know what my status got me? A lonely drive to North Carolina that was unexpected.
SPEAKER_01Well, I had to drive all the way back to Lexington to get on a plane to then fly to San Antonio to still get there, and I was still late. But I mean, it was uh that that was one of the that was not a fun experience to do that.
SPEAKER_04Bro, uh B Mike Songwriters Fest is going on right now in Key West, right? Oh, yeah. Delta canceled like I don't know how many flights they said, like hundreds of flights. And they well, they're not telling everybody it's because they don't have enough pilots and people working. So they don't have enough, and and these these flight attendants, the ones that are working, that are there, they have they have to be off so many hours in between flights. So it's not like they can just hop plane to plane to plane, you know.
SPEAKER_01There's about 17,000 more than they can go higher now. Yeah, that's true. Spirit Airlines is uh apparently like that they're like getting gobbled up. I don't know. I watched something on the news uh today and they're saying that they're getting like is it they're they're getting gobbled up by that by the other airlines? Like, yeah, they're like getting hired because, like you were saying, like they were there's been they were hiring, so now they got to like the front of the line because they have experience. You imagine going to work for spirit and then going to work for Delta. It's gotta be like an amazing experience to go from working for that airline to going to like Delta. I mean, unless you're a die hard spirit gal. Spirit and die, baby.
SPEAKER_05I get on another wing.
SPEAKER_01Where I I where I was at in Fort Lauderdale, like the spirit office, like the headquarters is literally right next to it where I usually stay, and they get tons of those, like the airlines that come through. And now it's gonna be weird because that it they literally built that hotel because Spirit built their like headquarters right there, right? And now, like, that's gone. So they built a nice in. No, no, I don't say there's an AC hotel, it's actually super nice.
SPEAKER_04Like a Marriott built of a hotel.
SPEAKER_01A Marriott and an AC, like literally two next to each other, and in the middle, there's a pool and on the fifth floor with a gym that connects to both. It's like the biggest gym I've ever seen in like a hotel. So I like to stay there, and then there's like restaurants and food, it's a really nice little area, it's called Daniel Point. So that's where I like it.
SPEAKER_04They gotta figure something out, they gotta figure something out about this flying dude because like it's it's one a buddy of mine who military, he knows somebody in FAA that was like literally told him he goes, bro, if it's six, seven hours, drive it. Like, don't even chance it anymore. And he said he's like it's just a complete you know, but if they can't afford fuel since COVID, they can't have they don't have enough pilots or or flight attendants, and the airports are just an absolute wreck.
SPEAKER_03And it's just there's something new every day, like this airplane. I think it was United just oh yeah, it's just team wheeler.
SPEAKER_04Do you see the United States that was coming? Oh, yeah. New York, New York. Oh my god. My man's driving his semi lost popping out.
SPEAKER_05He survived.
SPEAKER_01We're only laughing. We're only laughing because he had minor injury, like he was minor. I think it was just because of the glass, is what they said. He got cut. That was the only reason he had to go to the hospital. That's crazy. Bro, I changed my Instagram bio right away.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, survived, took an airplane, survived an airplane versus my because honestly, if you look at that video, it's like that's no way. It just looked like the entire truck. Yeah, I mean, it looked like the whole entire thing just exploded.
SPEAKER_01It's dude, that whole New York, the whole New York airport system looked is just terrifying. Like that's where all those like accidents and everything are almost happening. It's crazy. Because they just hit wasn't it in New York where they hit like a fire truck?
SPEAKER_03I don't think that might have been, I'm not sure where that was, but I believe it was in New York.
SPEAKER_01I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_03And then it's there's been a couple like mid uh mid-air collisions, like almost almost, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That happened at uh LaGuardia, I think it was, or so it's all in that same take off, they were a hundred feet away from each other or something. Yeah, I was on a flight on a flight uh three weeks ago, and we literally like fell out of the sky the last hundred feet. I like literally, like one of the guys had to go get like checked out because you got whiplash. I mean, we hit dude, dude behind us. He's like, he's like, Man, I was in the fucking military. He's like, I got smoother landings under gunfire in Kandahar than this shit. And the whole plane starts laughing. I mean, though, like, and then there was another pilot because you know they like jump on airplanes to go home, right? And he's just like, he's like, Yeah, you effed that up because we fell right out of the sky. I mean, it was just like, and it sounded like a cannon went off. I mean, I've been on pro I've been in not as many flights as you, I'm sure, but I've been on several hundred. That was the worst landing I've ever had.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, bro. Well, I mean, what what do you expect? When do y'all remember whenever they were like, Oh, we fired a bunch of people?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, we need these people. Oh, they're not coming back, they're not coming back. So then they start doing fast tracks through pilots too. And I'm like, I don't really think this is an occupation that we should fast track some people through, you know. You can fast track a lot of other jobs, but I don't think a pilot is one of them. No, and ever dude, since COVID, bro, it's not been the same, and it's only gotten worse, it hasn't got better.
SPEAKER_01No, and it's just gotten more expensive to fly, too. Like, it's not like it's cheaper.
SPEAKER_04No, no, a hundred percent. And then gas is freaking four dollars a gallon, so you're kind of breaking even.
SPEAKER_01I mean, what I I I honestly like I'd I I I told you this. I mean, you're like five hours from me, and if I'm going to your house, I'm not drive, I'm not fucking going to Atlanta. Just the pain in the ass to go to Atlanta, then to try and like either have one of you guys pick me up, then drive with the traffic that Atlanta has, and god forbid there's an accident. It takes nine hours just to fly down there. Like, it's just it's not worth it. Yeah, no, that's how far are you from the airport up there? My I saw I'm I'm nine minutes from one airport, I'm 55 from from Louisville, and I'm an hour and ten minutes from Cincinnati. So I've got three right around me.
SPEAKER_04Which one did you fly out of more? Closer, or you just price it out?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. It depends on where I'm going. If I'm going to like South Florida, I usually go to Cincinnati because they have direct flights. That's okay. Um and then it just depends. Or you can't find a direct flight out here anywhere, but I I can find I can go direct from Lexington to Atlanta, but it's like$800, so I'm driving your house all day. That's insane.$800. It's it's because it's it's and it's sold out constantly because it's just business travel. Same thing with like the flights. There's a direct flight from here to Dallas, and I used to get that flight for 200 bucks when I was going there for work all the time. And now I can't find it for like under$750. It's crazy. So I'm it's yeah, it's nuts. Dallas is so expensive, man. Like the hotels and everything. Like, I was looking at hotels. I I stayed at this hotel. It was it was a Delta Hot for it's a Marriott hotel. And I would stay there, and I mean, it was a nice hotel, like it would be a buck forty, buck thirty five, maybe a buck sixty on a on like a really crazy day. Five hundred dollars a night for when I was going for when I'm this stuff getting weird.
SPEAKER_04We all uh we are literally the bubble that is going to burst at some point. Yeah, it's gonna be insane. You can't afford anything. It's not just Dallas, bro. I got gas in the middle of nowhere, Carolina, and it was four dollars and nine cents for regular. It's I talked to my my buddy Skitty, he's a cop in out in California. He paid seven dollars a gallon the other day.
SPEAKER_01Well, California's just yeah, but they got two dollar taxes on their gas. That's yeah, it's insane. Just makes me want to go like to go to go to taxes and just start digging a hole, see if I hit anything. Oh, first of all.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it seems like he's freaking swinging the bat, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh you listen to him on Rogan. Oh, dude. He it he's have you seen his commercials? Just the job he does.
SPEAKER_04I told Adrena, I haven't met Spencer, but obviously they've known each other for years. And I said, I go, if he he's what he's doing, he's people are tired. It doesn't matter what side you're on, screw all sides. Yeah, all sides have uh it's you know, right this is we're in we're in a battle of good and evil, and and and what's happening is Spencer is speaking like a real human being with passion, whose house got burned in the Palisades, and who has a family who who's he's from there, and it's his hometown, you know what I mean? And so he has always been the dude that doesn't mind getting up and and stirring the pot. You know what I mean? He doesn't mind doing that. So he did it, and then he realized that these people are gonna run again. And he said on Rogan, he's like, I didn't want to do this, dude. He goes, but if no one else is gonna step up, I'm not just gonna be the dude talking crap on online and not doing anything, you know, because this is where he grew up, and I got a lot of respect for anybody that'll do that for their hometown. Because it's true, dude. Like LA, Hollywood, New York, whatever, like obviously places that like you know, where we're from, I'm not, you know, wouldn't move out there, right? But when you were out there in old LA, it was in the energy out there, bro, was different. Like when you're when you when you were in old L, when you were in this, and when I say old LA, bro, I'm talking about like six, seven years ago, not like yeah, you know what I mean, like not that long ago. It felt like you wanted to buy new clothes, you know what I mean? You wanted you held your you carried yourself a little different. You it was just that energy, you know what I mean? Like you felt inspired, you were around a bunch of people who were all dreamers of you know, and and also like nobody gave a crap what you do. You could go into a restaurant dress to the nines, you can go dress in pajamas and a hoodie, dude. People are like, hey bro, what's up? You know, I mean like like it was just a whole different vibe, you know. And then nowadays skid row is like 50 blocks long.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, then it's just dump people off there.
SPEAKER_04Well, people are dude. One spincer was doing a photo shoot in front of a a uh park, a children's park, and a homeless guy's walking with a stroller. And the spincer says, That's not there's not kids in that stroller, you know. So these kids are walking by and I'm talking about like the mental homeless needles, all that shit, bro. Yeah, because they're just feeding their supply instead of instead of now. I understand like people that want to have to get help to get help. You know how many of those people want to get help that just can't because they don't have any, you know, they they don't have a social security card, they don't have the you know, and so we just throw them on and just say, Well, you're you're not you're not worth anything, just keep drugs on you, we'll keep you on this on these blocks until you die. That's still somebody's kid, that's still a human being that needs and deserves at least have a chance to make themselves better. And dude, the the stuff in that's happening out in LH is gross, man. And so I think I really think and what's helping Spencer, I'm telling you, I told her during I go, What's helping Spencer is when you're on reality TV, especially during that time, and and you're just under the microscope, and and he went full on. What do you need? You need villain, I'll freaking do it, you know, whatever, whatever that was. Um, he's taking that mindset because you can't hurt any, you know, those people's whole lives have been on on camera for the public for 20 years. You don't care, so he doesn't give a shit. You know what I mean? It's like, what are you gonna do? Say something, I'll say it before you do, you know. So he stops him, and then he so the way that he's fighting these people are the way that real people would stand up to bullies like this, you know, and they're still gaslighting, acting like everybody's just an idiot. Yeah, you know, like we're all believing this puppet show. So I I mean Spencer's coming in, and if he keeps doing these type of ads, bro, these AI ads that he's doing, it there's it's incredible because people are tired of it.
SPEAKER_01He got a shit ton of money because Jeannie Buss is now backing him. Who's who's that? She owned the Lakers. Oh, I saw that. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right, so she I don't she doesn't anyway. Her dad owned the Lakers and she did. I'm she sold it, I think, to Magic Johnson.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, or that group, whatever. But yeah, she like she's funding him now. So and you're right, man. Like, it's just it's authenticity and real because there's so many of these conversations you see in politics and stuff where you just you're like, who the fuck talks like that? Like, yeah, I don't.
SPEAKER_04Like, you don't know who do you know who does? People trying to screw you in politics. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? And it's also like, hey, you know what happens when so and so is in office of LA. And I don't live out there, but I'm out there, you know what I mean? I've worked out there until you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know people, you know, a lot of people out there.
SPEAKER_04But Dreen is from there, you know what I mean? Like, I've been out there and I know what it was like going to the little bit of old LA that I knew, you know, not on their level, but like it just was a different vibe, dude. It made you feel like you I don't know, just put it's put something in your ear. You wanted to go hike, you know what I mean? Like, it's like you wanted to go. How is this? It was just like an atmosphere, yeah. Yeah, this atmosphere, dude.
SPEAKER_01There's a city full of dreamers and people that were just artistic. Beautiful out there. If you've never been to California, and a lot of people like to like shit on California because of how it's run. Well, California is some of the most country ever. Unbelievably beautiful.
SPEAKER_04Oh bro, aesthetically, it's the it's the most beautiful state in the United States.
SPEAKER_03I lived in San Francisco for a while, and like are like arguably the most beautiful place I've ever seen. Like North Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's and so I I think uh man, I I think he's I think he's got a shot, dude. You know, and I think if he keeps and what's cool, like I listen to him, we listened to him on Rogan. We were coming back from Nashville the other week. Uh and he's he's just being real and honest, dude. You know what I mean? He's saying, like, hey, I'm not, I don't, I'm I'm bringing around the best people around me to help me bring it old LA back. He's like, I'm not trying to change anything. What I'm doing isn't some rocket science thing, dude. I'm just tired of the bullshit. I want my kids to be able to go to school and not have some homeless dude touching himself across the park, you know.
SPEAKER_03I want to even talk about like that's what Hollywood Boulevard is made up, yeah, just like homeless people, yeah. And businesses like for leaser sale all down the strip. Dude, we should be the most thriving place.
SPEAKER_01We saw like a home, like homeless tents that literally like were two stories when we were out when I was out there, and I'm like, what the? I'm like that's like having a double ass.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a job.
SPEAKER_04He got a satellite dish. He knows how to work the street, yeah. Yeah, be a hustler, dude. You see, you get that guy fixed, who knows what he does. Next Elon Musk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, next speaking of that. Apparently, Elon might is there's some rumors out there that Elon might try and buy spirit airlines.
SPEAKER_03I feel like there's rumors that Elon's gonna try to buy a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01I mean, when you got that much money, you buy whatever the hell you want. I mean, you are the richest dude in the world. It's kind of like oh, it's up for sale, and you're just like, I mean, like we check it out, let's see what we can do with it. I mean, that'll be a tax write-off.
SPEAKER_03Oh, for sure. And we kind of need we kind of need the airline to stay just because if they go, then it's just gonna make everything else become more expensive all the way around.
SPEAKER_04It's yeah, well, it's gonna push those people that would normally fly like that or a jet blue. None of that's wrong with those, but like if you're not like we fly all the time for work or whatever. So, like, if you're not con if you're not traveling all the time, or if your company isn't paying for it, you know what I mean? Like, you're gonna try the cheapest flight. That's what those planes were, that's what those airlines were for. There's nothing wrong with it. They were there for the person that doesn't fly a lot. Hey, dude, here's a hundred-dollar flight of spirit. They don't tell you also gonna pay for your seats, your bags, your back.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but by the time you get done, you're gonna have as good.
SPEAKER_01You might as well got a delta break. By the time you're done, you should have fly flown emirates. I mean, yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it dude, it it is it's it's crazy just to see how much travel's changed in just the last five, six years, man. Like the whole world, everything's changed since COVID.
SPEAKER_04It sucks. The entire world everybody feels so on edge, everybody is uneasy. We it pop we've made politics the center of everything, even though we now know that what our grandparents and everybody that we grew up around told us that hey, pick the person that's gonna screw you less because they're all gonna do it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like, I mean, I'm still old enough to remember when nobody knew knew or cared who you voted for.
SPEAKER_04Nobody gave a crap.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Nobody gave a crap. Remember that.
SPEAKER_04Now people are like, that's like a uh that's like a topic on a first date for people, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like most people won't be your friend if they know if you voted the other.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the most ignorant shit. First off, how how can you, if everybody in your circle agrees with everything you say, where's your growth? If you don't have anybody there, why can't we agree to disagree? Just because you know, just because you might think a certain way. What what I think was happening is you have the news cycles, there isn't local news no more. Yeah, we're news 24, 7 all the time.
SPEAKER_01And they were it was like a montage of like them saying every word. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gone around for a while.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, just yeah, it's it they but they just we weren't meant to consume this shit. We can't do anything about half this stuff. People in wherever can't do anything about what's happening here, right? But guess what? They can they can scare you to death, which keeps you on your couch, which keeps you watching this shit, which keeps you irritated all the time. Usually divided, and everybody's all divided when all they give the microphone to is the far crazy one percent on both sides because that's the entertaining part, you know what I mean. But if they really go to middle town, middle America, and they realize that none of us give a crap about 99 of America just wants to raise a good family or raise a family, be able to afford a house that they can own and put roofs down on, be able to save a little money to go on vacation once in a while and have a good job and afford those alone and be left the hell alone, dude. Like, yeah, like it's not that hard. And and we can all agree to disagree, but they have divided everything so much, and it started with COVID, and it's it hadn't been the same.
SPEAKER_01It's yeah, it's especially now that I have like kids and stuff, like the whole my whole world focus looks differently on everything, you know. It's just everything's about like how do I make them the least unscrewed going being raised as possible. And it's just man, it's it's just crazy. Um because like think about it. When we grew up, like what like the shit we had to worry about now seems like it was like, oh yeah, if that happens to my kid, like that's no big deal. Like you know, like the stuff now you gotta worry about growing like with kids, it's like, oh my god, I gotta think about this now. What the freak are we doing?
SPEAKER_04This is a cast iron pod away from literally living like my great-grandmother did.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, off the grid.
SPEAKER_04I took all I I went by all glass. I got cast irons, I got a big cast iron pot coming. Been cooking about far from table.
SPEAKER_01Michael's one one big one more big album away from you never seeing him again. I want big everywhere.
SPEAKER_04I'm just gonna everything's out, dude.
SPEAKER_01I won't be he just he wants one three-year run and then never see anyone again.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna see me in 20 years. I'm just gonna show back up with a cruise.
SPEAKER_01If you see him playing stadiums in the next three years, just know that that that is the end anymore. So go on a time the scout tickets for$700. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and Brady might know where he is, but you guys won't. I might be Oregon trailing it, dude. You uh you won't do that. You buy it like a you buy like a big ass house with a moat around it in the middle of 500 acres of Montana or something.
SPEAKER_04Dude, you can't trust what they're putting in food. No, like you gotta wash all this stuff, dude. And like and the plastics come to find out, like cancer it is caused by all these plastics that we have and that we're eating and consuming, and that way they have been for years, you know. And and water, all our water is poison. I mean, you're bathing in that, you're bathing your kids in that, you're washing your your food in that, and then cooking it. You know, you buy organic, but then wash it in a sink full of contaminated water. But don't don't spend the money on the organic shit because you just contaminated it with your city water, you know, and but and a lot of filters aren't taking out everything that it should.
SPEAKER_01Have you heard about like the the the mega drought they're worried about? No, like like the Hoover Damage. Sounds like some marble characters. Like I was listening to stuff and they're like actually worried like if we don't get significant rain in some of these parts of the country, like things aren't growing. Uh like the Hoover Dam's getting really low, and like that, as you also know, like drives power for like 25 million Americans out on the West Coast. And if it gets to a certain point, they got to turn the turbines off. Um and they're not there yet, but it could they said in like another two or three years it could get there if we don't have something significant. Well, I think we're probably gonna get some rain within three years.
SPEAKER_05I thought we don't call stuff a mega drought, but we're in the next month.
SPEAKER_01So apparently, though, like we're in like it, it's like it's a cycle, right? It takes time to hit like a peak level of drought, right? And apparently this happened in like the 1600s and it was really, really bad, and like we're on the same trajectory of it. But like I was in Florida, like I was in Florida last week, and they're like they were like, we need rain. Like, and I'm sitting here and I'm like Florida needs the Florida. If Florida needs rain, we're in trouble. Uh but like I I mean, and I look, and you know, things can change in three or four three years, I get it, but just the fact that even that's a thing, like, and and look, like let's be honest, if we had that happen, like 99% of the people in this country can't grow their own food, they couldn't hunt.
SPEAKER_03Well, did you guys see where Al Gore predicted the next ice age would be in the 25 years?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, Al Gore also predicted. Okay, Alright. He's been wrong a few times. Al Gore's about as reliable as Bill Clinton in a brothel, right? Like, this is just not but could you imagine?
SPEAKER_04You know what I was thinking? Because sometimes it's like said that, like, you know, when you see like people that you wish that you could see fight or play a sport, like if you could see, like truly, if we could truly see, which we'll never be able to see, like LeBron James and Michael Jordan, right? You know what I mean? That'll never happen, you know. Uh, and boxing, you know what I mean? Like, all you know, to see uh to see somebody in their prime now, uh uh uh who's that dude that uh that Jake Paul just fought, no, uh Anthony Joshua, you know, to see that guy fight a prime Mike Tyson, you know what I mean? Like those things we'll never see, but you always think about could you imagine it'd be ridiculous. Could you imagine a primed up Bill Clinton with just an uh a primed up uh what's Biden's son's name? Hunter.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Hunter, by the way.
SPEAKER_01Oh my imagine if them two like during Bill's Bill's Pete, the 90s. It'd be worse than partying with you and Tim Montana. Hunter.
SPEAKER_04Do not ever put me and Tim Montana's two minutes sentence comparing us to them. It's a very, very different party, I promise. Yeah, yeah. Me and Tim might put me and me and Tim might get you a little drunk and hang you off the side of a mountain. We'll shoot something, but we will eat it later. Their parties, I don't even want to know. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01No, no.
SPEAKER_04But could you imagine letting those two clowns lose in Vegas in their prime with the with America's credit cards? Oh, that's probably that way. It'd be the hangover would look way too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01The hangover would look like it's like Hunter.
SPEAKER_04There's a tiger.
SPEAKER_05Hillary's never gonna believe I didn't do anything this woman up probably.
SPEAKER_01Mike, Mike Tyson just knocks the shit out of Hunter Biden. Yeah, oh my god. You imagine, I mean, listen, you could throw Trump in the middle of that, you could throw prime time Trump in the middle of that crowd, and that thing would still be like wild as hell. Because you know he was he loved the ladies back in the day. I mean, dude, he's married to a supermodel.
SPEAKER_04Bro, he was a he was a billionaire tycoon dude that was owning real estate in in New York. What's the greatest dude in the 80s? In the 80s, this man. I think that's that's what's happening with people. We are we're I we're not judging a time frame period, right? We're judging what people did during a time when the people that are judging them wasn't even alive, yeah. And it's like, hey guys, the 80s are very damn. You hope that yes, every generation evolves. So, of course, if this generation looks back four generations now, they go, You I cannot believe y'all used to say that. Yeah, well, it wasn't what it is now, you know what I mean? Like this wasn't a thing, and also, bro, do you imagine? I've been around some rich dudes that oh I hear how they talk now. You imagine in the 80s, shoot, dude.
SPEAKER_01They were animals back then, bro. Animals dude, like Trump figured out the cheat code. He's like, Man, I really like models. So what should I do? I don't know, buy a modeling competition.
SPEAKER_04He's like, he's like, he's like, well, they need a place to stay. It's like hotels in New York, Chicago, and Florida, but they're not coming yet. What do I do? I'll buy the models a pageant. Yeah, hey, did he really did is this true about the old he changed ice agents and called nice agents?
SPEAKER_01That's great. Like national international yeah, national. Uh, what is it gonna be? Hang on.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, he's immigration, national immigration and customers enforcement. Like, I will tell you one thing. Whether you like Trump or not, the dude is the most epic trolling son of a bitch I've ever seen in my life.
SPEAKER_04It's it's it's weird, it's like we're watching, it's like we're living in a movie, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he but like look, he is he's he was an entertainer, he knows how to keep people intrigued. He's just like, I'm just gonna go on and say something. Like, dude, you know, he just gets on like he before he goes, because he doesn't tweet he true socials. Like, you know, he gets on there, he's just like he's like nodding someone like an old grandpa. He's like, watch this, he's like, watch this shit, it'll hit the news in three months.
SPEAKER_04No, dude. He's got a lady typing him, he just speaks to her, she just types him out and they know.
SPEAKER_01I know, but I guarantee you he's like annotating it, right? And just like bumming, so he's like, Well, watch the news jump on this in three minutes, they're gonna lose their mind.
SPEAKER_04Dude, that's exactly bro.
SPEAKER_01I will bomb Iran off the face of the country. She looks at him and she's like, Trust me, this is gonna be good. Send it.
SPEAKER_04Bro, he he told Kid Rocks told me times where like Trump will be like he'll he'll he does certain things just because he knows that they're gonna talk about it and it's gonna get a reaction from it's it's brilliant marketing, if you think about it. You know what I mean? He goes, he doesn't care, you know, and and he and he speaks to very oh, I mean, he is who he is, dude. You know what I mean? I'd rather I'd rather somebody told me this one time it admitts it it made so much sense. We have a generation that would rather be softly lied to than harshly told the truth, yes, right.
SPEAKER_00And that means so don't tell them the truth because it's gonna hurt their feelings.
SPEAKER_04So softly lie to them, and they'll get over that better than if you just so hey dude, here's black and white, you know, here's what it is, you know. Now, you know, there's listen, no, you're not meant to agree with every leader or every person, you don't agree with everything your own parents say, you know what I mean? Like, so it's uh this whole thing, it's just it's just crazy.
SPEAKER_01I know we're living in some crazy times, dude. Soft leadership raises soft people, man. And like I watched Braveheart yesterday. No, no, probably should have.
SPEAKER_05He's got his face painted blue, whatever.
SPEAKER_01I do have my SKS right next to me, though. So I can't, you know, instead of a sword, I'm just you know, freedom's right there. But like, I mean, you know, I'm my son's six, and just trying to like I'm just like there's things that he did. I'm just like, my dad would beat my ass. Am I softer? Like, what happened, right? Like, you know, you got like we gotta stop raising soft, especially soft men, man. Like, my goodness, the shit that all started at participation trophies.
SPEAKER_02That's where it started, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Dude, my dad would like my I'll never forget. I was like nine years old. My dad told me I was an embarrassment to my family because I sucked at baseball that year. I think that would that's people.
SPEAKER_05That might that's not a great example. I mean, you ready for this? You ready for this? You ready? I made it.
SPEAKER_01I laid down the family. I made I made the damn all-star team the next year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, but you also saw a therapist at 30.
SPEAKER_01Nah, I never seen a therapist, man. Like, it's my motion journeys with me. Yeah, well, we we might need to do that. Uh, my dad's 90 years old, though. I mean, dude was born in 1937, right? Like, he's a just yeah, that's what he knew.
SPEAKER_04That's how that's how he knew, you know what I mean. So, like, you can't blame you know, so it's all of our parents, you know. So, of course, you're gonna do something different than your parents did because you're using what you grew up with, going, okay, here's what I didn't like, this is what I like. But now you create a human. Guess what? Still a human has its. Own full uh mind and everything, you know what I mean? So, like the way that this human receives love or needs love is gonna be different than how you needed it from your dad, you know.
SPEAKER_01So it all changes. Well, I also say things like I'm very I'm I'm probably a lot more attentive than and I don't mean this in a knock to my dad. Like my dad, like was like my hero, right? Like he's everything, and I mean you still get it on, but like I'm definitely, I think, more like attentive to the my kids, right? Like, I tell them I love them way more. My dad never, it's not my dad didn't tell me, but he didn't have to, right? That's a raise. My dad also did a really good job raising me for not having a dad either, right?
SPEAKER_04Like, that's that's a that's uh that's uh yeah, that's that that's that old school mentality, dude. That's why so many, that's why our dad's generation, our dads say it, you know what I mean? So that's like that's just that's that's that's the growth, yeah. You know what I mean? And also everything's more you're you know, it's it's different now, yeah. Like jobs are different now. So it's not back in the day, bro. You're going out harvesting and working and moving, and there was no power tools, there wasn't this easy stuff.
SPEAKER_01Eight to five, and you came home and sh and and and you were a present, yeah. Right. Our lives, I mean, think about us. Like, we're I mean, it's hard because it just it doesn't ever get turned off, you know.
SPEAKER_03You never know when you're absolutely on 24-7, and that's caused so much anxiety with people because like they most people can't leave their house without their phone, they'd freak out. And like it's funny because like my dad's the same way now. My dad, he's like in his six, he's 65. He'll even leave the house and be like, Oh, I gotta turn around, I gotta go get my phone. And it's like, you don't need it, we're just going to town, man.
SPEAKER_04My grandpa got a phone and he got Facebook. He thought liking like admit that people would you know you saw it, yeah. And he had his notifications on, and he'd he was he my grandpa was doom scrolling before we knew that that was a name, right? He'd be sitting there just laughing, whatever. And then he'd take a photo and he'd post on Facebook and everybody's phones around ding ding ding. Like, grandpa, you post it on Facebook. He was a Facebook whore, dude.
SPEAKER_03He loved it. It is the older generation that when Facebook came about, they they they it's still the thing now.
SPEAKER_01My space, my space should come back publicly.
SPEAKER_04No, I think we need to. I think I think it I think we need to take like a few months hiatus, a year. Yeah, you take a it should be a month off all social media for a year mandatory. Game of it. And then just go outside, dude. Go ground, go breathe some air, go realize that not everything is about you in this screen, and you're missing time with people in your real life for people that you might ever, you know what I mean. Like it's where it works great for what we do because I can it where it's great is I can it's direct to me to fans, you know what I mean? So that's awesome, and being able to have that is priceless, and that part is great. The business side part of it is great. The keeping up with people that you love is great, the using it for financial things are great. However, there's a whole nother side of this that people don't, you know what I mean, where you're just constantly comparing yourself to everything. Yeah, you're feeling like you can't, you have to constantly post because the algorithm has to get it, and you have to live on this, and you got to do this, and everything becomes a moment instead of a real moment, it becomes something you it's a setup, everything's a setup. Hey man, can we get this real quick while you're on vacation? Hey, can you do this while you're here? And it's it's constant, it's constant.
SPEAKER_01So when I become mayor, no, I'm just gonna become mayor when you just start to run for office and that video of you pissing in the bushes. Yeah, yeah. That's great. I'll start floating around, breaking around. Do you want a mayor that whips his wiener out on the public? On old ladies market apparently, yeah.
SPEAKER_04If he can't find his own Airbnb, how is he gonna be able to find the way out of this mess?
SPEAKER_01Michael Ray, not right. Uh we need to bring back MySpace, though, is because the public shaming of just like who are your top ten friends? And then, like, if you get into a fight and then you're like top ten changes.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, I really some people really cared a lot about it.
SPEAKER_01The greatest thing in the world was like it was free advertisement for if a girl was single. Because if her number one friend wasn't a dude, you're like, Yep. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like you're always doing it, and like uh man, that it was great because it's just public shaming on who your friends were. It was amazing.
SPEAKER_04It did people took that a little a little too serious, I think.
SPEAKER_03But it's like it was funny though. Like, I had to be all like 13, 14 year old years old, and I had a coronal background.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04My song was right and dirty with Bud Light in the background. I was 12, dude. Remote closest thing I've ever rode dirty was coming back from killing something from hunting. It's they're right. I didn't even know what he was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They see me rolling.
SPEAKER_05I'm like, yeah, yeah, dirty face. I got a little dirty on my hand, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let me check, let me check my space real quick. Yeah, people think I'm 21.
SPEAKER_01You ever seen like these videos where that's like the millennials that are like watching these videos and singing the song lyrics back? And they're like, like, we like what the what what bro?
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, you know, it'll be great. There was like, you know, like our grandparents, like you listen to their old music, it's like, oh, it's so wholesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grandma's like, here's here's a song that reminds me of my grand, my daddy, your great-grandfather. Uh, it's called coal miner's daughter, and it's about Loretta Lynn's life, you know, and the struggles of being a coal miner's daughter. That's what we now now when we try to tell our kids a grandkids like grandpa, what'd you listen to? And it's like they sing me, bro. Oh, you girls pop you up like this.
SPEAKER_05What are we gonna be singing to these kids?
SPEAKER_04And also, do you know I don't think anybody's talking about this on social media? We didn't know what our grandparents were like when they were younger. So when we were kids, grandma's grandma, right? Yeah, we couldn't look up grandma's Instagram from 30, 40, 50 years ago and find grandma just straight up clapping cheeks on a bar somewhere in Puerto Rico or something.
SPEAKER_05You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like that's not bro. When our generation starts having grandkids, you just start seeing just like a mass deletion everywhere. Just like Papa, what was this? It's like get out of it.
SPEAKER_04We we left one time. There was this, we left uh we were we were in the van tourists when all my all the guys in the van were all from central Florida. There's this this girl that we knew that posted it, or I think it might have been John or somebody. We had a long ride in the van, so everybody's you know, just half asleep, looking at phones, whatever. And John goes, So so and so had a baby or is pregnant, and he shows us, and then her, but the the post right before it was like her at a club like this, like days before. I don't need a man living life single. F me, I need nobody, you know what I mean? Fast forward a day and a half. She finds out she's pregnant, and it's like, all I need is me and my baby, God has us. And I'm like, I mean, I'm all for everybody finding Jesus. I get I'm I'm big fan of him myself, but how that's a very quick turnaround. That's very quick. Yeah, man. You should be what is fun about social media though now is reading the comments on photos.
SPEAKER_03That's my favorite thing to do. It's uh half the times the comments are way better than the video.
SPEAKER_01There are some quick-witted people out there that are so funny, and then the montages that these people are making with the comments with like the videos, like as the song lyrics. Uh, it's so we were I think we watched that one when I got your house at one time. It's just like it's comments are the best.
SPEAKER_04Comments are uh you you you see his funny video, and I just kind of watch half of it, and I go, This is dumb. Comments first it's fantastic.
SPEAKER_03Fantastic. That's my favorite thing to do, is just read the comments.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because the right there are some real clever people that are like thinking, well, like, wow, that's really genius. I wouldn't have thought about that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like you should be a comedian. Did y'all see uh y'all see a big thing? Um, everybody knows I'm I'm very big into uh psychedelic medicine for mental health and addiction and everything. The fact that Rogan is getting Trump to pass Ibogain is one of the biggest things that needs to have more light on it. That what Ibogain does for addiction, for depression, for I mean, I'm uh uh mental. I mean, just the list goes on and on. These Rob O'Neill, all these other military people were there. Uh Rogan Rogan though goes, so he was on uh he had his podcast on with Shane Gillis and all them, where he does protect the parks or whatever it is. And I was I was on my 18th drive of the week um this week. So I was I listened to it. I've listened to every podcast and everything that's there to offer. So he goes, they were asking him, they go, What what was what was it like being in the Oval Office? And Rogan was like, It was it was wild. He's like, I guess people were giving Rogan crap because he didn't have a suit jacket on. But he's like, I just want to make this clear. I did have a suit jacket on, it was in the other room, and Trump was like, You gotta come see the gold, you gotta go see the room. He said, Trump brought him in the room. He's like, Look at this, he's like, and it's beautiful, it's incredible. He goes, and then everybody else came in. So Rogan's like, you know, you know, and what he wears.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, go back now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's he's in what he wears when he's you know hosting our uh MC or whatever on uh UFC commentating, and so he goes, he said he said, But what was crazier than being in the Oval Office was the fact that I texted Trump all of these facts and links and all these things about IBA games, you know. And Trump wrote back, let's do it. And then Trump goes to then Trump goes to the UFC fight, goes up the road, and goes, Hey man, it's done. And next week they're in the Oval Office, right? And and Shane Gillis or one of the committees goes, Maybe that's what's been going on, is people are just texting Trump and he's like, Let's do it.
SPEAKER_05They're like, they're like, Oh no, he says that, dude. Like he opened it up. Let's go fight this place. All right, let's go see what happens. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01He's just like, he's just like it was so funny, dude. Yo, they're they're acting up. He's like, they did they talk shit? He's like, All right, let's go. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03No, 100%. That's exactly what he's doing.
SPEAKER_01It was so good. I mean, we've we've he said that, man. Like, you get text messages and shit, and he's just like, that's a really good idea. He's like, Why would I not do good ideas?
SPEAKER_04And I mean what he's doing is huge. The fact that this is illegal in the United States, the fact that that's illegal, ayahuasca, mushrooms, the these treatments that are helping people, people without having to put them on pharmaceutical medications for the rest of their lives, it's eating up their kids, eating up their livers. The side effects are are damn near worse than when what what you're taking it from.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Go do something natural, but it doesn't feed the pockets of this pharmaceutical company, so it's all a big circle, you know what I mean? And so the fact that he's moving this along and Rogan and them took the first step to go, hey, this is enough, you know. Like, there's no reason why as America, as Americans, don't shouldn't we have those here so then we can have that money coming in here, but instead we'll go to Mexico or Puerto Rico or any of these other places because you have to go there for it. Now they're getting all that, you know. All because it's just it's crazy. But I am pumped for that. I think it's a great thing, and I think that if anybody's dealing with any heart addiction, been to rehab several times, haven't whatever it is, uh, military, PTSD, all uh uh uh you know, PTSD of uh from any sort, any sort of mental challenge, stuff on your back, childhood trauma, things that we hold on to. Ibigain, Ibogame, ayahuasca. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go do Ibogaine at some point.
SPEAKER_01When you're not traveling 3,000 miles in a week.
SPEAKER_04Maybe, maybe, maybe I can swing on by. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So do they have it at Publix?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're like, yeah, I try to get on the plane. They're like, sir, you are seeing things.
SPEAKER_01Sir, there's no point here. You had a vision that that plate was actually. Yeah, you're at a you're gonna come ago, buddy.
SPEAKER_05Uh there's that's a gas buff. Give me all the I'm trying to I'm trying to scan my cloud, right?
SPEAKER_01God, you imagine you ever imagine if we got to interview like someone like Trump just the recklessness of that interview would just be because Michael would go into that interview. Well, no, you Michael's gonna go into this interview with like five things to see if Trump will just say, Let's do it. I already know. One of them is us not paying taxes ever again, like an Armageddon. Oh yeah, dude, like he like he'd be there, and I promise you, like, you're just gonna sit there and he's just gonna give you like the that look, and you're just gonna be like, Oh, here comes one. You just know the look. I know what he likes.
SPEAKER_04I know what a I know what a billionaire business guy likes. I'm gonna slip him a little handshake note. And we shake hands on a wink. Yeah, he knows. And there's your there's your demands. Yeah, yeah. Just I ain't gotta say anything. He'll know. He'll know. We'll make eye contact when he sees the wink, that he'll remind him of the 80 business deals he used to do. He goes, This is serious.
SPEAKER_01What's your n what's your first thing you're you're set you're giving him? What's your first request? Uh taxes.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm starting, I'm swinging for the fish, dude.
SPEAKER_01He's trying to, man. Like he's talking like he wants to abolish the IRS. That's the thing. Like, he won't stop talking about that thing. And that's that that boy, that would be great. I don't know how we're gonna pay for shit, but it'd be it would be great if we get rid of that increase.
SPEAKER_04We're just in a crazy friggin' just a wild time, dude. And also, I'm you know, our generation has never had a time to just settle into anything. Everything has changed. We you know, everything with nine 9-11, uh, the crash in 2008, um, an absolute pandemic that shut down and changed everything as we know it. You know, uh, how we how we get things, how we how our childhood, what we love to do growing up is not an option in a lot of ways for you to raise your kids anywhere close to that, right? Like, there was a you know, going to the movies was something that was uh an exciting thing to do. Now, none of us want to go. One, it's overpriced, two, you have it right here at your house. Why would you go? But it's screwing the entertainment business, you know what I mean? So, like, I still like going to movie theaters and and it's fun, but like it is pricey, you know. And so, as a consumer in a market where no one can afford anything, because everything would you look up the other day? So, we were watching this documentary on the Von Ericks, which is a wrestling family. It was uh the iron claw, which oh that he was in so that they were what you say, what you what did we calculate yesterday? Oh, yeah, they were making twenty-five thousand dollars in uh oh that yeah, the one wrestler was like, buddy, if you can promise me$25,000 a year, I'll leave right now.
SPEAKER_03I mean, it was like if you and so Brady Googled it, I Googled it, and it translated to$350,000 today, and that was in like what 60s 60s, 70s, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Wow, well, that not that long ago, bro. That's it, that's insane, dude.
SPEAKER_03And like we're not making that type of money anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01We're not even making 25 grand compared to like the 60s.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's crazy. Uh, but yeah, it just shows you how much things have changed, and in the movie world, too, is it's the same. Like, I hear old school stories of like uh old school stunt guys and just making absorb amount of money on the residual end of it, and now that same check that used to be a hundred grand is probably like five grand, and it's like it's it's insane.
SPEAKER_04It's with songwriters, it's with you know, and then it's in movie world with stunts, it's in it's all all the entertainment business. I feel like it's everywhere though, dude. Every everybody I talk to, when I talk to buddies of mine that run you know, blue-collar jobs down home in Florida, they're like, dude, it's hard. You know, it's hard. They're like, bro, last year we were crushing it out of nowhere. This year it's just yeah, yeah, I think breaks.
SPEAKER_03It's kind of the universal thing, is kind of what I'm like gathering too, yeah, from everybody. Doesn't matter what industry you're in.
SPEAKER_01So it's yeah, everywhere is AI's taken over so much. Yeah, I mean, and especially in the tech industry.
SPEAKER_04The fact that you yawned during that sentence, though, kind of looked like you were starting to cry. I am crying, yeah. AI take it over.
SPEAKER_01I hid in the tears.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, dude, AI is scary, bro. Dude, I got so we're looking. I I got a song with John Daly. John Daly did his album, and he has you know buddies of his on each one. So I I'm on one of the songs with him. Well, him and his guy were calling, texting yesterday, asking if we have any photos, appropriate photos of us together that we could use. And so I was dog tired from all the you know, the night before the day before. So I was laying in bed and I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna mess with AI, right? Just see what I can come up with.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, it'll come up with some stuff, bro.
SPEAKER_04Somehow I couldn't get my tattoos right. Everything everything else about it. Like, I'm just if if he can't get my tattoos right, I'm gonna put a long sleeve shirt on it, and you can't tell the difference. No, yeah, crazy. And it's a photo, yeah. It made the image, neither it's not like I sent a photo to it. Yeah, it's just uh what I mean. I just like you know, uh me saying this, people are gonna listen to be like, Well, yeah, idiot, that's how it is, but I just don't mess with that much. But I just put a realistic photo of Michael Ray, John Daly, album cover, but individu, you know, individual uh for a song like this. There it is. And then I kept trying to tweak it, made John's beard a little longer.
SPEAKER_03It's crazy how like it's nuts.
SPEAKER_04But that's the same thing, you know. But that right there, there's people my cousin has a graphic design degree.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Like you just took someone's job, like me, just contributing to the dog.
SPEAKER_01You'd have think after what, six movies that we were warned about Skynet becoming self-aware, we would have learned something. Yeah, and apparently we didn't. Well, I'm more of like a time learner, you know what I mean? You you really want to have a weird conversation. You want to have a weird conversation.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we did it.
SPEAKER_01Go on ChatGPT and ask some questions. You you you want to break your computer screen.
SPEAKER_04Bro, I just told you I'm cooking and cast iron and eating farming table and grounding in the mornings and meditating. You think I trust asking Chat GPT a bunch of stuff? No, they have all that stuff. I don't want them. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no, no, like weird shit. Like who controls you?
SPEAKER_04No, no, because here's where my mind goes with all this crazy shit. Then they go, who was asking? Oh, Paul from Kentucky. Yeah, who's just living his life happy in the moment? Michael, he's not worried about this. Paul's on to us. I want to be the guy that they're at least expected. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I I you you already you got the cast iron thing, like you're like one step away from a prepper, and you're you're way more advanced on the list than I am.
SPEAKER_04But I don't ask Chat GPT about what cast irons.
SPEAKER_01Well, true. Uh, you don't have to do that.
SPEAKER_04Which also I would like to say it shouldn't show that I'm a prepper, it should show freaking growth and responsibility because you can't just throw that in the dishwasher. No, it's a delicate task.
SPEAKER_05I'll learn. Oh my bought these parts, I bought these bro. I bought these and then I left, right? And Brady, Brady, there Brady washed, he's saying, I get back.
SPEAKER_04There's rust all in these things.
SPEAKER_03I told him I'm like, I can't clean these motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_04He's like, bro, I don't know how you clean these things. You got to do this, he's like, man, it's like rust in here. So I'm gotta get back. But now they look good, dude. I grew up, I grew up around it, you know? Just channel my great grandmother.
SPEAKER_01Started using it again, too. It just cooks better anyway.
SPEAKER_03It tastes better.
SPEAKER_04It tastes better. You don't have all that plastic, all that nonstick, dude. Destroy some old Amish butter.
SPEAKER_01Use some oh use some beef tallow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I also render that too. So if anybody needs them, I have a few jars. Is it good? Yeah. I mean, I my first time doing it, I learned I l I I I made a couple mistakes, but my next time it'll be perfect.
SPEAKER_01You were telling me last time when I was on there you were about to do that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, but I think I I think you're supposed to keep it out. I I I uh put in the refrigerator. I think I put in the refrigerator too soon. I don't know if anybody knows how to if anybody is good at rendering beef tellow, drop it in the comments. I did on my trader, it took me like six hours and then I started my rendering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but trying to try to be healthy, but I'm trying to live to 110. I hope you do, man.
SPEAKER_01Thanks.
SPEAKER_03That's an always specific number.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. It was very specific, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's just been a number in my head. There you go. I don't know if I'll do it, but I won't be here for anybody to talk shit and say I didn't, so I won't know.
SPEAKER_01By the time you hit 100, you won't give a shit. You're like, yeah, talk shit, man. I'm already here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're probably like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, God's like, what do you wish for, bud? Yeah, yeah. Michael's gonna be 100. If I get that one more hit, if I get that one more hit, I'm gonna be in the fucking woods. That crazy country singer that still has cast iron. What the go through?
SPEAKER_04Everybody should get cast iron. It tastes better, it's healthier for you. There's a reason, bro. Our grandparents didn't have all these diseases that we have now.
SPEAKER_01No, they don't.
SPEAKER_04They didn't. There wasn't there wasn't all this obesity back in the day, and they were eating. Lard and cooking like this and eating all this stuff. There wasn't also shit they put in. They were raising it.
SPEAKER_01We should just all buy like a compound and just raise food. It's called a farm.
SPEAKER_03We just raise food over here. We just raised food.
SPEAKER_05We raised food, guys. We're just raising some food over here. You mean cattle now, but you're not looking into the future. Hey. What is that?
SPEAKER_04You don't look into the future. That cow is food. I'm raising food. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01The fart machine. It's causing global warming. Must eat it. Just think about all the all the good I'm doing for the environment when I eat cattle.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01True. You imagine like how PETA is so torn on this. It's just like, oh yeah, the fart cow farts are ruining the the environment. Well, we'll eat them. Nope. Can't do that. Wait, what?
SPEAKER_04Is the cow fart thing a real thing? Dude, yes.
SPEAKER_01Like they yeah, you haven't seen that, like saying the cow farts is like adding like it's like this is real atmosphere.
SPEAKER_03But I think that's enough propaganda.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like there's more people farting than cows. It's because I don't know, because they fart more or something.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what it was, but like, yeah, just imagine just I've read that somewhere. There's gaps.
SPEAKER_01Imagine the cultural dilemma of like your entire like thought process on like the global global warming and animals, two most important things. Well, gotta get rid of water. Imagine that meaning boys we're in a pickle.
SPEAKER_04We know we're vegans, guys, but we gotta save the planet. Yeah, listen, one of us has to be brave to step up and eat this cheeseburger over Fox.
SPEAKER_05We're gonna die from Cal ass. Yeah. These people are thinking we we don't know, we don't know which way to go here, guys. Die from Cal. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04I never no, I never even heard of that. Oh yeah. I probably honestly I probably read the headline and went, that's some sort of yeah, that's like yeah, bull crap. Oh my god. Humans eat worse stuff than cows do, and there's more humans. And we've been up, speaking of airplanes, we've been on airplanes. I've accidentally let a couple silent ones out.
SPEAKER_03Oh, is the worst one getting that stomach ache on the airplane?
SPEAKER_04I would say I don't even want to say I swear if I could judge by any of this, not probably but man enough to say this.
SPEAKER_05I I think it is funny though when you do let out those little silent ones, and then you see the dude like four rows back just go you know, you know, you think it's like this thing gonna be bad. Oh you spell it first, and then you just right away sleep on the no dude.
SPEAKER_01Instantly, I did it one time in Instagram. It's just like I turn, I was like, Man, do you hate I was like, I hate when these assholes do that on a plane.
SPEAKER_05Like I hate to admit it, but it is okay. Who did that? Who shit on this plane?
SPEAKER_04You ever see Ted when he really when they're at when they're at the dinner and he he parts at the dinner and silently it's the business guys?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, who would do this? We're your own business. We're your own business.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, so you can't tell me, bro. Listen, we're a high protein eating house, homie. Like you can't tell me we're not contributing to the cow, uh the cow gas in the air that's eating the atmosphere, just fucking the ozone up one cow at a time. One cow at a time. One Brussels sprout at a time. Brussels sprouts. Yeah, we're destroyed.
SPEAKER_01Delicious. Yes. Do like do like Brussels sprouts. They're good. Have a good way of cooking.
SPEAKER_00You can't cook.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I know. Should just open a restaurant. Why don't we open a restaurant, Michael? I feel like that should we should do that.
SPEAKER_05We got a couple things going on right now, Paul, which is why we're doing this searching.
SPEAKER_01Guys, we're doing a podcast for a reason. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I always I actually thought like maybe someday later on opening up a cool diner in my hometown because like Jeannie's Diner, Mason Jar, like there's a bunch, there's those there, you know. But then I always worry, like, how long would that be? You know, how long can they? They've been there since I think Genie's opened the same year I was born. Mason jar might have been the same or even older, but it would be cool to do something like that. I'm on me and Chad Ward are talking about maybe doing some seasonings or something together.
SPEAKER_01So there is a chance I might be in your hometown this week, by the way. My hometown? Well, if you want to get a regular little reality, let me know. I mean, okay. Just you want to make another drive?
SPEAKER_05Hell no.
SPEAKER_01You can fly to Orlando, I'll pick you up.
SPEAKER_04No, I don't want to see any of it. I don't want to see any form of transportation for the next 48 hours. I had a driving deposit checkoff for my business manager earlier today, and it's literally a minute and a half down the road. Didn't you want to do that? I silently bitched myself the whole way.
SPEAKER_01Just getting in the car. What the fuck are I doing? I hope you break down in the driveway.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's trying to save my life to remind me to wear my seatbelt, and I'm like, oh yeah. That is actually annoying.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, the dinging. I don't as a kid. As a kid, if you just didn't do it, it was just like, all right, may the odds be forever in your favor.
SPEAKER_03I don't even think I don't even think I had, I don't think my parents had a car that had a dinger. Well, they they're smart enough because they used to be able to you could click the butt like the uh the seatbelt thing, and it doesn't do that.
SPEAKER_04Well, seat belts do save lives. Where's your seatbelt? Yeah. But if you don't be really pissed, yeah, yeah. If you put up with that dinging, that's a whole nother situation.
SPEAKER_01Like people that drive with like their flashers on or their blinker on. I'm just like, how do you do that? Like that gives me anxiety when I'm going down the road and it just stays on. I'm like, how do you not hear that?
SPEAKER_03Sometimes I've done that and I didn't hear that though. Not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_01That's an impressive level of just toning out.
SPEAKER_04I have an impressive level in ADHD, dude. I can I can exit out a bunch of stuff.
SPEAKER_03To the point my truck was sounding an alarm that my my uh turn signal was on. I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that was on.
SPEAKER_04That's wild. Does y'all do y'all's cars do the freaking thing if you have anything in the back seat? It yeah, tries to ask you if you have a car seat to remind you not to leave your child. Mine don't. No. Well, it doesn't matter what you put in there. Unless you show your car off, open the door, bing, bing, and you had to hit close on it. I'm not, there's not a child. I don't have a car seat in there. And the fact that we have that that's become such a problem that it has to be a point that we have on that we have that in a car to remind parents. It's because we're all distracted with our freaking kids in the car and stuff. Yeah. Old, old old mama's out there with her baby in the car going, I'm getting my groceries at what right now. Just wanted y'all to see what I'm doing. The babies in the car just beating on the window. Not now, you're in my shot.
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_01Bro, could you imagine what our parents would have said if we would have had social media when we were kids?
SPEAKER_04Uh, dude, I don't think me and my friends would have got into it. We were, I mean, I don't know. Well, of course, I mean it's all generated. Well, again, LeBron and Jordan were never gonna see a display.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, yeah, we don't know how we would have.
SPEAKER_01But my parents have said. I don't think that. I don't uh oh well, I mean, it's just a different time. Dude, I mean, like I can't even fathom my kid having a cell phone right now. He doesn't. I'm just saying, like how old is he counts? He's six, and there's kids in his school that have them.
SPEAKER_04They have cell phones at six, bro. My first cell phone was that yellow and black brick rubber constriction. Yeah. It wasn't the sexiest thing, but you charge that thing one time on a Monday. Yeah, you got a week and a half charge. Yeah, oh yeah, and you could corrupt you could use it as a weapon. You could beat somebody to death with this thing, and then call to get help.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I beat your ass with it. Now I'll call not a phone for you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, now we drop our iPhone on the on our our our mini computers on the ground and never the same.
SPEAKER_01I'm on I'm on the like the fifth, like the glass screen protectors that go over the top of them. I'm like the fifth one in three weeks.
SPEAKER_04Do you think it's because when you were nine years old, your dad said you disappointed the family and makes you agree when you're watching sports, or no?
SPEAKER_01No, it's because I travel too much and I just travel. Just like nah. That and my children, that that and my my terrorist of a almost two-year-old daughter loves to just grab grab it and just run off with it and has dropped it so many times. Uh I'm surprised. I'm surprised it even works. Like, she literally is just will sneak attack any at anything that she's not supposed to touch, just sneaks and tries to grab it. Then you just like walk in and like, what in the world is she doing with that? Uh oh, that's a knife. Can't have that.
SPEAKER_03Oh god, that's another one.
SPEAKER_01I mean, dude, she gets stuff that I don't even understand how she grabs it. Don't know, just does. Don't know where she did or when she did it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we need they put the chainsaw down. Got it, right? Nana's here to see us.
SPEAKER_01We can't oh, if my mom my grandma was if if her grandma like my mom was there, she'd be like, Great, she can go cut some trees in the back 40.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know what's well, you know what's wild is like and and and I always I always try to look at both both sides of everything. So granted, I do grow up with all my family and pastors around us. You know what I mean? We were all in the country, and everybody was close enough by that. If something was to happen, somebody in my family could have been there in seconds, you know. But I dude, I was staying by myself at 10 years old. Oh, yes, taking care, you know what I mean. Like my dad would just be like, Don't you dare unlock that door or answer the door to anybody unless it's your family, yeah. And don't burn the house down, and you know, but I would cook, you know, or dad would leave me some cash, I'd order food, you know, delivery, whatever. Yeah, and it just wasn't a you know, it was everyone you had to make a phone call to deliver get pizza delivered. Buddy, they knew me by name. I'm from a divorce home. My dad's my dad's house was like a halfway house for number for the first responders going through divorces, dude. We were just a I was raised in a bachelor's bedroom. How much dominoes pizza we ate back in the day? Subway was a treat. That's when dad got paid. I'm kidding, dad. Okay, how about dominoes?
SPEAKER_01So he knows that's 29.
SPEAKER_04We ordered dominoes so much that I would call and the lady would go, Michael, and I go, Yes, ma'am. She goes, pepperoni sausage, and mushroom. That's what my dad, that was my dad's favorite pizza. Two mediums, yes, ma'am. Cool. I don't even know if she'd tell me when it'd be there.
SPEAKER_03She just knew I knew that's hilarious.
SPEAKER_01That's great. I remember when McDonald's had 29 cent hamburger Mondays and 39 cent cheeseburger Wednesdays. Uh we used to go down when we were when we were in Florida. Um, my sister lives in Sunrise. We used to ride our bikes down and we would get 10 of each on like Monday and Wednesday, and we just eat that all week. And somehow we didn't get fat. It was wild.
SPEAKER_04Because the ingredients and even the ingredients in McDonald's then is better than it is now. It's not dude, it's complete. The Gatorade we drank as a kid is not the same Gatorade these kids are drinking. I can't drink it anymore. We're poisoning our our children here, and and it's just not the same stuff. We gotta think we gotta find out. I'm a big fan of RFK doing all this stuff with health and changing the food pyramid. When I dude, this is I don't even know what I believe that we learned growing up now. Honestly, what the food pyramid was made, yeah, it's totally backwards, backwards and advertised backwards. And so when you look at look at what they to the generation they were selling that to, it was a generation that had to grow their own food. Yeah, they had to go, you know, there wasn't no just open the pantry and open a box, you know, and grab us some food, you know, some crackers out of something, everything you had to make, you know. So they, of course, it's gonna be oh, this is more convenient, yeah. Oh, this is easier way to eat. Oh my god, yeah, this is great. I'll spend more time with my family, you know. So that's who they sold it to, and then throughout years they just completely started doing a little bit of poisoning and stuff, made it quick, you know.
SPEAKER_01Um all of a sudden you buy blueberries, they're the size of plums. What is nitroglycerin, and why is it in my pancakes?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04Always look at ingredients when you're grocery shopping in any place. The the fewer the ingredients, the better.
SPEAKER_01I don't even like buying stuff with ingredients anymore. Like, I would literally just it was up to me, you sucking air, dude. Like, honestly, honestly, honestly, I could literally just eat broccoli, zucchini, rice, and ground turkey or chicken and steak, and I could literally eat it over and over again and be fine, right? Like, I I mean, if it wasn't for these carpet munchers out here, like I would have our my food in here would be absolutely way different than the first one.
SPEAKER_04Are you talking about your children?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, carpet muncher would be stuff very much. I was like, wait a minute. This calls them crotch goblins.
SPEAKER_04That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's so good. That's funny. Hey, you listen, when you get when you have three of them, I mean, you've met my kids. I mean, they just they just have all they have oh, dude. By the way, Christian is literally like, when are we gonna go on a trip to Michael's house again? He's asked like five times. Oh, like I think it's just funny that he knows you're a real person now, not just he was convinced that you were like an AI bot, and he doesn't know you existed. We sure this dude's real. Yeah, I mean, all like, yeah, it's it's so because it was really hard to explain like who you were, right? Like, so he's like, Oh yeah, watch his mu watch his YouTube videos, and now he just you just thought you lived in YouTube land.
SPEAKER_04Well, bro, that's all that's all everybody watches is YouTube, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Michael doesn't have a house, he lives in YouTube, and I'm like, nah, buddy, that's not how this works. That's hilarious. I think he thought I was lying the whole time, but I was like, Yeah, we're gonna go see Michael. That's not no, he lives in YouTube. I love that though. He can come down anytime. I'll bring him. We get we'll have to do when when I when life doesn't get us crazy, we'll have to do like a long weekend where we do some shows and hang out. That was really fun by the fire. Like next time we get a camera, because that was pretty fun. Yeah, like that was a like just sit by the fire, have some steaks, and just talk. Like that was that was that was a good time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, dude. We'll do more of those. I got uh we got big stuff coming, man. It's just you know getting everything going at the same time, you know, but also getting everything set for when this new record comes out, you know, having a new look at having a new stuff with this podcast, having different things all lined up. So uh, but we're not gonna stop doing it just because we gotta figure out where there's a will, there's a way, dude.
SPEAKER_01Well, we got technology to do it this way.
SPEAKER_04That's right. 100% technology technology paul over there. My job to figure it out, guys. But uh yeah, man, yeah. Uh we got a bunch of stuff coming up, man. That that stoked on thing would be we got it all, dude. Listen, everybody on everybody's just trying to build and do the best they can, you know.
SPEAKER_01What we should what we should definitely plan on, because it's far enough away, we can definitely make it work, probably. Kentucky, Florida game. You gotta come up to Kentucky for it. I think it's still during Keen Listen.
SPEAKER_04We gotta have a week like I just did, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. Well, that's why we plan it enough in advance. Tailgate, come out and tailgate. We could do a podcast at the tailgate, which would be kind of fun anyway. Go to the game. Be a good time. When would that be? October. October, right? I think maybe November. I can tell you. But yeah, it's scheduled. Oh, yeah, it's already scheduled. Those things come out so far in advance. They play November 14th. Fuck, that's way far away. Oh no, we'll worry about this in like August. We'll revisit it in a few weeks.
SPEAKER_04Hey, dude, the way the the way that the way the world is now, God knows what we're gonna be in November.
SPEAKER_01The aliens are invading in September, guys. So, you know, just worry about it.
SPEAKER_04Dude, okay, real quick before we wrap things up. Am I the only one that is not cool with us trying to figure out if there's aliens? No, let it be. No, let it be.
SPEAKER_01They've not done anything so far. So why are we trying like why are we messing with this?
SPEAKER_04Why things are better? It's not gonna be long. Yeah, you're not gonna get that back in the box, man. You know what I mean? When I used to when I used to open wrestling actually figures, my my uncle would be like, Dope, you want to keep that one in the bus colette? I go, nope. He goes, Well, you can't put it back in the box. Same thing.
SPEAKER_01If they put up their game, Skynet's already coming out of the box. Why are we gonna go get you know freaking Independence Day coming to bro?
SPEAKER_04It's just I don't need to know what's behind the you put on fire, you get burned, yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what? And then what? What are aliens just gonna be walking around? So when I have kids, I have to worry about my kid falling in love with this alien creature, and now I got a little half alien grandkid. That's a little bit in the ways. That was extreme. I'm sorry, but I'm bringing off. I mean, I mean I'm not a Jerry train.
SPEAKER_05I did a little Jerry uh uh rant there.
SPEAKER_01Jerry Springer's coming back for that one.
SPEAKER_05No, Jerry Rose, my dad, it's in our blood.
SPEAKER_01We do this bringer's also coming back like like nope, it's half alien. Bro, I'm like, I'm like, everybody's so stoked about it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, no, guys. This this was long. Let's never know. Can we go back actually in time?
SPEAKER_01How many movies have warned us about all this shit? Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03Uh I I mean you would think we'd know better by now. Learn nothing. Like when you're a kid and you try to stick your finger now at the end of the day. You gotta get shocked, you don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you gotta recover from that shock. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I don't know. I think I'll I think I think we need to just figure our stuff out. We're not even good at that. I know. So that's what I'm saying. Like, we don't yeah, we need we got some, we need to figure our stuff out, and maybe we just let the aliens tease us once in a while, you know.
SPEAKER_01We can't we cannot even get out of our own way. You think we could all come together to find an if I an intergalactic war? Like come on, guys.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. Doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that I know of that there'll be aliens coming, so that's what holds my faith strong and then I won't ever have to.
SPEAKER_01But there are things that talk about like false prophets and signs and wonders and all that. So I that's why I think I think the alien stuff is all just the version of like control. I mean, like, listen, if the end times are bad, like think about like what Sodom and Gomorrah how they describe it, and he's like, nah, we gotta reset this thing. Imagine it's supposed to be worse. Like, you know, you don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, dude, like there's I mean, just because they're like we say they're aliens doesn't mean they're just not like you know demonic forces or presence and they just manifesting, right?
SPEAKER_04Like there's there might be some that already been walking. They're already here in human form. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'd call it yeah, I would call that you know what we might call those things, just people who are possessed. But I mean the veil's thin, guys. Like, I mean, the veil between the natural and the supernatural we know is very thin. It's not like it's an impossibility. I mean, the Antichrist is supposed to be possessed by the devil himself, right? So I mean, well, no, of course, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I believe in all that, but I just I just don't I want to see Jesus come back. I don't want to see aliens.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm good with that all being there. You you you most of us just hope we don't see the whole coming back thing. We go up before that happens. Bye. See you guys later.
SPEAKER_04I mean, part of me wants to hear that trumpet go and go, boys, he's here. Let's go. And then just because I we're listening me and God are good, bro. I'm getting raised up.
SPEAKER_01Just yeah, we gotta, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Kind of like this is the end, that movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You imagine we go for another like five, six hundred years. Like, what what in the world are we gonna see then? Oh yeah, I'll definitely be gone by then. Well, yeah, I know. Once in all I got, Paul. I got yeah, yeah. So you got a solid what, like sixty seventy-two years left, right? Yeah. That's good math. Look at man, you got a lot of years left to get there. You might see some crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_04That's when I started realizing I have more time than I thought, so I just kind of come with things that get to me so much now. You know, at first I thought I was I'm running out of time, but I got plenty of time.
SPEAKER_01We are all we all are running out of time. It's just how do you handle the time that you have that's given to us?
SPEAKER_04Have you been reading The Secret or something?
SPEAKER_01Gandalf the Grace at that. You never seen Lord of the Rings? No.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah. You're a ring fan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I told you that last time. You made fun of me. Oh, sorry. No, my mom wouldn't even let me watch Harry Potter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01My mom wouldn't let me watch Harry Potter either. It's okay. It's demonic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's demonic.
SPEAKER_04She's like, that's gonna make that's good. That's gonna put evil things in your head. I'm like, you shouldn't have divorced it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, dude, all the things are just like, oh, it's demonic. Can't watch that. Can't listen to it. It's like what give me a beer. Give me a beer. It's demonic. Can you go crap that crack that bushlight open for me? Go make mama drink. I will say my parents, I I didn't see my dad drink a lick of alcohol until I was 20 oh 30. What? I didn't see him drink never. No, it was like th maybe I was like 31. I took my parents to my mom guilted my dad because they'd been married for almost 50 years and said we never went on a honeymoon. So she guilted tripped them to go to Europe because she wanted to see the Alps. And uh we and my dad's Italian, first generation, so we were in Italy, and I was just like, Come on, dad, like have a beer. My dad hadn't had a beer in like I don't know how long. And like my dad just drank beer with me the whole that whole trip. Like, not like crazy, but you'd have like one, right? Like my mom was drinking wine, and my sister saw pictures of it, and she's just like, What did you do to our parents? We ruined our parents. You ruined them, you contaminated them, you know. But I mean it's different over there too. Like, even the beer over there, like they don't it doesn't have all the crap in it. Like it doesn't you drink like a Budweiser, like four three of those over here, you feel like your belly's gonna explode. I don't be you drink over there and you like the local beers and stuff over there, like they're good. Like you don't feel the same nastiness.
SPEAKER_04So hopefully we get back over there next year after this new music comes out.
SPEAKER_01Offstage America follows the tour. To Europe. Yeah. That is offstage America. It's way offstage, but backstage. I'm sure there could be plenty of fun shenanigans out there, especially with all the people that we know across the pond and just the random shit we could get into. Oh yeah. For sure. What you got doing, what you got going on this week, bro? Orlando on Wednesday. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. I gotta get up into like the central parts of Florida and stuff, so I'm sure I'll be close to where you grew up. Well, let me know if you're around there, but if you need anything. We'll do.
SPEAKER_04Or if you need to get out of anything.
SPEAKER_01Probably more like get out of it.
SPEAKER_04You got them on both sides.
SPEAKER_01So you're covered.
SPEAKER_04You're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're good. Yeah. If you want to get into or out of any situation, just let me know. I got a plethora of people I can call. Can we jump on some gators? Not right now. I mean, you can, but that talk about the getting out of thing.
SPEAKER_01They're going, you will go into something and then might be worth it. I don't know. We'll see.
SPEAKER_04We'll see if we can get a camera out there. You can't. It's a they're not in season, man.
SPEAKER_01No, you gotta kill one. Just jump on one. Game.
SPEAKER_04It's on the sign. It says do not molest alligators. You think it's a special reference? You think you think a bunch of florillagers out trying to bang alligators? We gotta put it on the sign, too. We figured they do not know it molesting, just don't touch it.
SPEAKER_01You might not. I mean, it is Florida. He's out there, he's out there neck kissing a 10-foot game. Come here, buddy. It's purring, it likes me. Yeah, it's his.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. Uh how are we going? Hour and a half. I think we solved a lot of the world's problems. Any other current events happening? I know that there's some UFC fights coming out with Sean Strickland and that's what, May 16th? That's May 16th. Um I'm interested to see that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, me too. There's tons of current events. Huh? There's tons of current events. Are you just talking about fights? Oh no.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm not talking about like spirit airline went down or something. I mean the blockade's still there, so we could talk about that. And I'm just kidding. The blockade. The blockade of the Hormuz Strait? Where have you been for like the last three weeks? That's a bad dumb question. We were like blockading, we won't let any of the Iranian ships enter out. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh hey, hey. Yeah, but you were using a bunch of big words. I'm more of like uh river. Hey, they they cut it off. Oh, yeah, okay. Dude, actually, dude, shut up. My cousin Ethan Kupchak is a marine, and he's in the him and his him and his uh him and his platoon and stuff are are they on a navy boat right now and have been for a while. I talked to my uncle, his dad Phil the other day on a on the podcast, uh not on the podcast. He listens to his podcast, I know he's gonna listen, but on my birthday, and he goes, dude, you know that first when we were heading to take over Venezuela, uh take the old boy from Venezuelan, yeah, yeah, Maduro. First ship that we our boys rappelled down and took over. That was all that was all over the news. How are you gonna shake your head if you'd say all this intense shit and then just look at me and shake your head? You know what I'm talking about? Yes, okay. See, that's the enthusiasm we needed. My my cousin was one of the ones jumping, repelling down from me. Yeah, that was like his first big thing. Yeah, dude, he went in there and they just took that thing right over. So I bet he has some hell of a story about how that went down because yeah, I well, I haven't seen her talk to him and he's been over there, so he keeps in cut. Well, we all kind of hear from his parents on how he's doing this stuff. But we're all whenever he gets back, we're on yeah, is he like special forces and all that?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a GI Joe, bro. We gotta get him on the on the show, yeah. Yeah, so that would be fun.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's uh he's um he's going to special forces. Uh, Phil was telling me, I mean, he's he's his his grandfather, my stepmom Karen, her dad is a Marine and just a badass dude. Like this, he he was a he joined the army because the Marines wouldn't let him go for to into desert storm because of injuries or things that he had. You know, he was older by that point in time, so he just joined the army so he could still go fight. Like that's the type of bluff fight, you know what I mean? So it's uh it comes on us, but uh yeah. So that was one of those, one of the one of the guys propelling was Ethan, uh Ethan Kuchak. That's awesome. Yeah, man, it was awesome. So it's cool. It was I I didn't know. I told Phil, I was like, bro, I saw that happening on TV. I didn't know he's like, Yeah, dude, one of those were for Ethan. I'm like, I've known Ethan, bro. In a diaper running around, you know, I was throwing him up and stuff. Now he's freaking kicking ass and taking names for the country. You can probably now you can probably pick and throw me up.
SPEAKER_01No, he's kidnapping presidents, so he got him anymore. Yeah, yeah. You're gonna see him. You're like, you know, that one time I called you a little shit. Like, I'm really sorry about that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it really, it really makes what I do for a living around uh the holidays not that cool. I got number one song. What a song. Ethan's like, hey, you know that country?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I hand tied the president personally delivered to the hand-tied to Maduro and handed him to Trump.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, Well, I'd be like, Did you listen to any good music? Like most of the what we are listening to.
SPEAKER_04I bet you if you didn't have music, you probably wouldn't have been motivated.
SPEAKER_01It's like, oh yeah, L Langley gets the guys pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, Yeah, we're LFLs.
SPEAKER_05I'm like, damn.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we I never mind. I'm like, we're gonna go on a tire there. No, we can't blame him. But uh but yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_04Well what time is it? Oh, it's almost 1 a.m. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It is. That's a good podcast, dude. Hour 30, bro.
SPEAKER_03Hour and 40 minutes.
SPEAKER_01We're Rogan style, dude. When it's just the three of us, we go full on just Rogan style. It just goes. Yeah, it's fun. Hell yeah. You know what's crazy? Nobody's like I we don't even play this out. It just goes. Isn't that crazy, dude? Yeah, oh my god, look at the magic. Just crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's how we did like that. I'm a half-assed jack of all trades. My ADD would let me focus on one thing, I'd be unbelievable at it.
SPEAKER_01But you can't be mayor because you pissed in the bushes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to find that video. I'm gonna find it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you said I like when it happened, I'm like, do I go back to the ring doorbell and just be like, hey lady, or whatever, whoever lives here, sorry.
SPEAKER_01I just left. Dude, what if she actually knew who you are and thought it was like an episode, would have watched it and thought it was like an episode of Punked? Just knew who you were, and just like, this is not, no way. This is true.
SPEAKER_04She like sends the ring doorbell to her grandkids. She's like, You look at what happened, and then like he hits the other side while and he's like, Oh, and he weed in your bush over here, can you believe Luke Combs was at my house? This is the most horrible worst freaking uh uh criminal ever. He leaves his DNA at the crime scene and leaves.
SPEAKER_01Dude, here's the thing imagine if you would have found a key. Oh my god. I tell you what, I wouldn't have she wouldn't have had her house peed on out about it out of the peed in the bathroom. What if you what if someone was in there and you opened that door? We might be talking about your funeral.
SPEAKER_04Trust me, I I thought about that on my way back. That's why I knocked first. Yeah, oh, it could have been very bad. But luckily it didn't, so we can laugh at it now. But yes, yeah, it could have been really bad. Imagine me just going into the bathroom, peeing, I up in the shower, and all of a sudden, old boy opens a shower with a 12 gauge. Like, who are you? Dude, your arrest story would have been happening. I'm going down to I'm going down to help help raise money for veterans. I am getting arrested for breaking and entering. At least you could have shown in public nudity because he tries to shoot me in the shower.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I mean, but just think about it. You could have shown the address on the phone that said the Airbnb. I mean, it dude. Oh my god, that would that it was so close from being really epically funny, but also really dangerous. So at the end of the way it is. So bad, dude. So bad. I'm not trusting you ever again with Airbnbs.
SPEAKER_04I I don't trust me, don't trust Google Maps.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that Google Maps does mess you up a lot.
SPEAKER_01It's uh literally the only place I'm staying in a house is AJ's place again because I trust it and I know where it's at. Everywhere else is gonna be like sus now. Now I'm like, no keypad, no, no go to the door.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, when I when it when they said enter the keypad, I was looking at the door, and uh that was my first feeling of oh, this would be good. But I had a hard time feeling that because of the urge of urination I had as well. So I couldn't really feel the the the maybe this isn't my place. I'm like, if I have to drive somewhere right now, I'm gonna piss my pants.
SPEAKER_01God, good thing you didn't have to think shit. No, thank you.
SPEAKER_04Straight up fertilizing her flower pots.
SPEAKER_01No, dude, that would have been worse. You find a key, and now you're just taking shit. Just absolutely mutilating their bathroom. Uh talk about literally getting the shit scared out of you. Oh it'd have been bad news. Let's ask about story to talk about it, but all right, bro.
SPEAKER_04Everybody. Yeah. I think we're good. Yep. I think we gotta roll out. Yeah, but everybody listening, watching, thank you guys again. Um, thank y'all for tuning in, spreading the word. Uh, we're in the beginning stage of this, growing it as we're also growing other businesses and careers and different things going on. So uh we're we're we're gonna keep on um putting putting this content out. Uh and and off stage America brands just who I am, it's who we are, and it's uh it's who so it's what we want to spread. And it's something that we get to do and kind of show a behind the scenes view of not only my life, but their lives and and our guests' lives when we have them on. But do being able to do this and just kind of catch up is a lot of fun too. So uh love you guys. Thank y'all for sticking with us. We'll see y'all next time. Off stage America. Peace.