Iron Court And I'm Tyler. And he's Jess. And this is Moms and Margs. So obviously no Jess, but I do have my just wonderful husband here today again. Why do you sound sarcastic? I'm joking. But, um, yeah, Jess is still dealing with a lice situation. So yeah, you guys heard about it, like, a couple weeks ago. Then she took her daughter to the water park. She thought the lice was gone, and fricking eggs, finds them again. So she had to burn her whole house down and move, and shave her daughter's head. It's the stuff you gotta do- That's what you gotta do in those kind of situations. So, uh, it's not gonna be a super long episode because, um, we're parents and we have our kid, but we're gonna get into some juicy hot takes, marriage hot takes, so you guys can get a male's perspective of things as well. So Well, first, highs and lows. I think our, both of our high is definitely we went to Vegas for my nephew's 21st, and it was so freaking fun. Yeah, it was a really good time. And if you've never hit a hand pay on a slot machine or... Yeah, I guess that's the only thing you can hit a hand pay on. Uh, if you don't know, a hand pay's anything over two grand, they have to come up to you and give you money in cash, so 20 one $100 bills. Uh, all-time goated situations. If you've never experienced it, I hope you do sometime, because I never thought I would. I was at $125 in this machine. It was trying to pay me, it was trying to pay me, in my opinion. And I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna jack it up to $5 max bet until I get it to $100." So I was like, "Okay, five spins at $5." And I hit, like, the juiciest jackpot with, in, like, three spins. And- It's true I don't know if you ever went to... They got all those, like... I'm sure if you go to the casino, you know it's, uh, they, they got those machines that'll tell you, like, "Oh, you're so close to popping this balloon," or, uh, "You got a lot of the eggs about to burst," or something like that. Your pig's gonna burst. Yeah. All five of my eggs burst at the same time while I was on max bet, and they came and hand paid me. It was sick. And if you ever feel, like I'm saying, if you ever feel like your machine wants to pay you but it's just not, just bump up your, your, your bet and, uh, it will, basically is kind of my position on that. I did not have the same luck, but- You witnessed it I witnessed it, and, uh, you know, we're in a partnership, so His win is my win Yeah hot take. I tried giving you money, you don't even want it. I know. But 'cause like- What's the deal? I mean, your money's my money, my money's your money. It's like, you know. We've been trying to join accounts. Yeah. We have a weird, we have a weird financial situation with my work and putting money together to, you know, like if we ever were to move and get a different loan. It's a whole weird thing. But we kind of hit on it last week when we talked to you guys about, like, a lot of you, um, said you did have separate bank accounts with your spouse or, like, you guys each had your own and then you had one together. So that was- it was an interesting take on things. That's what I think too, 'cause I, I think I've literally asked AI, like, how do you combine finances with your partner or something like that? Well, there's three options. You can do, uh, uh, the same account for, for just bills, and you both put an equal amount in, but you also have your separate money. But then it's pretty much, other than that, it's just combine your money. Just combine your money. Yeah. But then it's like, okay, well, if I want to invest in stocks or something, like, I kind of feel greasy pulling out $1,000. If I want to go to Target every week, do I have to? And, yes, you need approval because- Approval you said the stuff you come home with. I need approval on the items I'm buying. Yeah. They're questionable. Mm-hmm. He gets mad I buy a lot of, like, cheap plasticky toys or, like, toys where there's, like, 1,000 pieces. I've gotten so much better. You have to admit. And it just ends up in the trash in two weeks. No, you have to admit, I've gotten a lot better. That was our high. Low? You know what my low is, is my dad is back in Blythe for the summer, and that's always sad for me. Like, he's not here, so that's kind of my, my weekday bestie. You know? We go to AJ's, we get work done together when he's home, and now he's gone. But we'll just go to the River House more and... Yeah, the River House is always fun. Love going there I mean, especially in the summertime when you go more and just hang out on the jungle, that's- Yeah a good time, and River loves it. I love it. Everybody's having a good time. Yeah. Get to see everybody. Fourth of July is coming up, too. Yeah. That's, like, the big fun time on the river. My low this week, um, didn't have one. Nothing but up this week. Oh, okay. And I'm still coming down the high from Vegas. And, and then at work I was kind of a big dog. Went to the foreman's meeting. Everybody was... I got to see all my foremen, all my old foremen. They're like, "What are you doing here? What are you doing?" Blah, blah, blah. I got to see everybody. They're like... I'll tell everybody, "Oh, I'm gonna be a supervisor now. I'm gonna be a supervisor now." They're like, "Oh, hell no." So. I mean, the only negative was my reaction to it and being so nervous before it. Like, oh, they're gonna be blah, blah, blah. But there was no negative. Everything's up this week, so all good. Knock on wood. No knocking on wood. It is what it is. Oh, we're not knocking on wood. Okay. All right. Let's dive into it, because the first question I already, I already kinda wanna know your take. These, we, we didn't go over these before. I'm just reading it right now for the first time, and it says, "Should you be able to go through your spouse's phone whenever you want?" Should you? I feel like that's weird. Yeah, you should be able to, but it just depends on how you do it. If you go up to your partner... No, I wanna say partner, your wife, your husband, girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever, um, and you're like, "Oh, I'm going to go through your phone and I need to be allowed to do that," then that's kinda weird. But if you're just like, hey, if, if you, if you magically get your hands on their stuff and you can go through it, then it shouldn't be a problem, in my opinion. Like, what do you have to hide? Are you messaging people on Instagram? Uh, what's the word? Yeah. So that's the thing. Should you be able to? Yes, you should. If you have a desire to, I think it's like, may, might be a, a trust thing. I don't have a, I don't ever have a desire to go through your phone. I know if I go through your phone I'm gonna see fricking, like, what, video game stuff. Stupid reels and, uh- Some truck stuff- or you freaking dogging on someone- Me? trolling someone on Instagram. Like, I don't ever have, like, this strong, where I'm like, "I need to go through his phone. I'm feeling like I don't trust him. I'm feeling insecure." If I'm feeling insecure, I'd just go to you. I'm like- I feel like that's a, that's a 20-year-old activity. Yeah. 22-year-old activity, and if you wanna do it and they won't allow it, then it might be a red flag, though. No, that's what I'm saying. You shouldn't have a problem with it. But it just depends on context. It depends on context. Yeah. If you just go up to them like, "Give me your phone. I'm gonna go through it," and they don't allow it, it's kinda like, mm. What would, what do you think you would see if you went through my phone? Brain rot. Brain rot. Probably accurate. It's stu- like, a, a full cart at Target and just full of plastic stuff. That's it. That's all I do on my phone. No work stuff would be on there. Yeah, no, I'm sure there would be. There would be. This won't save. I'm having trouble getting this to save. This file's corrupted. Oh, my God. Okay, what about having a work spouse is inappropriate? Like, a work, like, "Oh, it's just my work bestie of the opposite sex." That's a tough... 'Cause I don't necessarily think that it's like, like, you can have friends of the opposite sex. I do think that. I completely agree with that as well. And especially if you're in a relationship and you're like, "Oh, my best friend is the opposite sex." Like, nah. Not acceptable. No, I don't wanna say not acceptable, but- Fishy that's a, that's a red flag. That's a huge red flag, and somebody wants to bang somebody. It's not, it's- It's red flags all around. Yeah. I need, you need to go through the... Uh, that's when you go through their phone. Go through their messages. If, if you think that they have a work... They're like, "No." No, no, no. Yeah, it's probably not a good thing. I'll tell you this at work, there's a, a subcu- a subculture at my work. There's, at the foreman meeting I learned this, there's these foremen that think it's so funny and they think that they're all so cool because they cheat on their wives with random girls at work. Not I'm gonna say random girls, but they work there. They're cleaning ladies kinda deals, and they, you know, I don't know if you- It's kinda like the Army if you guys work, if... Okay, let's say, like, we're doing X, Y, and Z. These people are like, oh, kinda like they work for the contractor and make sure everything's clean or whatever. There's, it's just usually females, right? The, I have a foreman that you never know where he... Well, you know where he is. He's talking to the females. Mm-mm. And usually they're supposed to be like, "Oh, yeah, yeah." If you have questions, they're, they're usually there. You don't even have to look for them, that you can find them, like, pretty easily. This guy's so hard to find. Um- Mm doesn't know, I don't wanna say doesn't know where stuff is, but it's, he's not focused, and it's because he's trying to holler at these females. Yeah. And it's kind of insulting when, like, you just wanna get here, get your job done, and, you know, go home to your wife that you love. Why laugh at me? Okay, but don't you feel, like, guilty when you see that and you know that he has a wife at home? Like, don't you feel so bad for him? I feel judgmental. Yeah, you, like, judge him. But it's, it's not my place to judge and, like, what am I gonna say? But it's, it's like, dude, if you, if you can betray... 'Cause honestly that's what it is, is betrayal. I don't know what's going on with your lady, you and, you know. It could be, like, something I'm totally unaware of, but if you're willing to betray the kind of, the, the vows you took and this, that, and, you know, y- and oh, there's kids involved too and- Yeah. It's a lot like, you're willing to do, like, for anything for pussy, it's crazy. Yeah. Well, and that leads me into the next one. If your spouse cheats once, is the marriage over? And again, guys, these are our opinions. We're just little people in this giant world. These are not, like, this is not us judging anyone out there. This is just what we think. But you need to take a look in the mirror. Look at yourself. Okay, I'm gonna go first on this one. I, um, and, and I've already, like, Tyler knows where I stand on this. I, um, absolutely. Like, if you cheat once, I don't think there's any circumstance or situation for me personally where I, um, can, like, move on from it. Would I want to? Maybe, just because of everything we've built together and our child, and I get wanting to keep a family together, but I just know personally that I would never trust him again. I would hold resentment that would grow and grow and grow. It would be toxic for our entire family unit, and I just don't think there's any betrayal that exceeds that. So, like, if you're able to do that to me once, and you're able to do that to our son, then it's just kind of like, I just don't, I, I can't trust you. I don't need you. Yeah. Super wack. Um- Weak. I would say weak too, but it's just in your mind state. Like, is there some, uh, I c- and I, I'm not there to judge. I, I'm here to do a job and go home. Literally, that's, it's peak, peak activity. Do a job, go home. You don't hear about it. You don't get emails about it. But if you're unable... Uh, okay, so, like, all the guys are like, "Oh, we need this and that, but I don't know where the foreman is," or, "The foreman doesn't know where this, that is." And he's just trying to, to smash these chicks at work. It's... So he's affecting us, and then not only that, he's betraying his family on top of it. It's hard not to be judgmental because I know- It, I mean, it's really easy to be judgmental, but I don't want to. It's just you can't come back from that. I mean, if your spouse found out, and I think that they were talking about at the foreman meeting there's a little powwow afterwards, and everybody's talking about people cheating and how funny it is, and- Funny. It's not funny, but, like- No, I know "Tee-hee, ha-ha, I got with this girl. Ha ha ha ha." It's like- But there's a lot of people that that, like, cheating is so light to them. Like, maybe their spouse- Yeah has found out, like, two, three, four times. It's, like, a regular thing. Or they know, like, "Oh, my wife isn't gonna leave me because she doesn't wanna split time with our kid." I think people, like some, and, and wives cheat too. Don't, don't get me wrong here. It- Oh, is that right? It's on both sides. Oh, really? And we have- I have always told Tyler, "If you feel a certain way, and you're, like, feeling like you're leaning towards, like, having feelings for someone else or anything in that, tell me first, and let's go our separate ways before you act on anything or do anything like that." And I think that's really easy, but that's not what these, the kind of relationship these guys are having. That it's not like, "Oh, I'm texting you. I'm thinking about you all the time. I think I might be in love with you." It's just, like, ease of access. It's there. Totally could. Nobody will ever know. Done deal. So. Well, I mean, do you think emotional cheating is worse than physical? 1,000%. Yeah. If, if, if Cor- if, if Courtney was working a job, and it's just like, oh, this... If Courtney's working this job and this dude wants to bang me, like, like, whatever, and just did it, I don't know. That's greasy. It's greasy. I don't like it, obviously. But if it's like, "Oh, I'm, I'm texting this guy on Instagram, and we're all like, 'Oh, I, I can't wait to be with you, and I think I'm in love with you, and I'm gonna totally leave'" like, that is huge L. What a loser. Like, that- Get outta here. That's so whack. That's 1,000 times worse. Um, but it's still cheating at the end of the day, and that's gonna affect the relationship. You don't trust the person. And then you have kids involved- Yeah and it affects them, and it's like that's just- Yeah, and that- you betrayed your kid, too. You just- ultimately what it is, is like, okay, we, me and, me and my wife are two separate people, then I'm not giving her what she wants, or she's not giving me what I want. But, but, but who's gonna suffer those consequences? It's kinda like if you go to jail, and it's like, oh, I go to jail, and oh, you know, I'm just in my cell all day, and I just eat all these food, and everybody puts money in my books. Everything's all good. But everybody on the outside is- Dying oh, suffering. Yeah. Like m- like suffering, like I, I miss this person. He's not here. I'm worried about him all the time. You're putting consequences on other people that don't need to carry it. Yes, like 1,000%. That's just not... No. Have enough respect for the person that you took vows to to communicate with them that, "Hey, I'm not in love with you anymore. I'm not feeling this. I'm not..." Whatever it may be. Leave the right way. Do the right things. If you fall outta love, you fall outta love. That could happen. People, people go through it, you know what I mean? Like- But that's the, the relationship. Like, okay, I'm texting this guy. I think I might really like- That's your just feeding of your- What about, about ease of access? Well, I mean- Like y- you just got wiener on tap, and you're just ready to... Who does? Who's like that? No. Well, I mean, if you- I mean, if- if you work a job in a, especially a office, a, a restaurant or whatever- For the male maybe. The, I would say for the female. Female are more emotional. They're gonna have the emotional relationship over the- Come on. They will. Maybe not some female. I'm not category- They don't, I mean- everybody together. But yes, a male is more likely to just have a physical, and a woman is more likely to have, be the one with the texting, and they wanna be fed emotionally. You know that's true. I don't know. Yeah, he does. He does. But I'm glad we could, um, answer these relationship questions for you. Hopefully we, we've, um, maybe guided you in a different direction if you were thinking something. If only you could see my husband's face right now. Okay, we're gonna pivot to kids. We are gonna pivot to kids. Screen time isn't as big of a deal as people make it. This is a big one, especially in our generation. So, um, let's hear your take first. Uh, I think screen time is a huge deal. I used to work in a restaurant, and I would see, shit, I don't know, they're like- 10, 11, 12-year-olds with iPads in front of them, with, uh, big giant earphones over their ears. Didn't look up at me once while I was, I was-- I used to be a server. I used to work in a restaurant or bar center, whatever you wanna call it. And I think it's a lack of social skills or l- like you're just insulating your child or whoever for, from the rest of the world and from gaining skills on like how to do things while just, just to make your life a little bit easier. You don't want your kid or whoever to crash out and Yeah, the emotional regulation you're, you're kinda like not disallowing them. I don't have, I don't have a better word right now, but you're, you're not allowing them to develop skills that it, you know, that you need to function in society. I think a lot of kid- or parents with kids, um, especially in the toddler range, you know, that like one to five, one to six, they're, it's more of an image thing. Like, "Oh, if I put this tablet in front of them at a restaurant they won't crash out or have a tantrum and no one will judge me." Um, I used to have that mindset, but I can say, and everyone around me can vouch, I do not give River a phone or tablet, um, well, ever. He's, I don't like him to have a tablet period. He turns into a monster. In public, yes. But I will not, um, even at a restaurant, it's like the last and final resort if he's just totally like- Yeah, like I get it. Like, okay, so he's already in a bad mood. It's, you're having a rough time. You're just trying to have a nice meal, and you're just like, "Okay, dude. Dude, just relax. Here you go." Yeah. Like, I wanna pacify that. Like, okay. But like 24/7- No as soon as you walk in the restaurant, "Here you go, brother. Here's here's your-" No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. 'Cause in the last year I can count one time that I gave him the phone. It was at Squid Ink like a couple months ago. He had the phone for like 20 minutes because my brother was in town, and my brother, dad, and mom and I were having, like, a work conversation. Yeah. And he was so tired, and he was like, it was taking a long time to get the food, and he was agitated. So I was like, "You know what? I'll just give him this. We're trying to have, like, a work conversation." So, like, in some situations, like, I don't, I don't shit on it totally, but like I don't, that's my last resort for him. I want him to have to sit there. I want him to have to wait for his food. I want him to have to, like, be, like, self-entertain or interact with everyone because, like, as uncomfortable as it can be sometimes if, like, tantrums or moods do present themselves, it's healthier in the long run because he's learning how to, like, self-entertain, self-soothe, self... You know what I mean? I think River's done a really good job of that too lately because he, he's getting these big emotions. Like, he's getting angry or- I tell Courtney he's standing up for himself, 'cause always, always- Yeah, we keep telling him to stand up for himself at school, and now he's coming home, and he's like, "Hey, don't push me, Mom." Yeah. Like, he's like, he- "That's not nice." Yeah. "Hey, that wasn't nice what you did." Fucking up to me. I'm like, "What the fuck?" Like, she looks at, Courtney looks at me, and sh- I'm just like, "Hey, he's standing up for himself." Like, it's good, yeah, like- Which I'm like, "Cool, but not, don't do it to me." Like, stand up to little Johnny, not me. But no. Um, okay. What about do you think that parents should be friends with their kids? No, I don't. Your role as a parent is, is not your friend. You have to teach them how to, uh, integrate in society, and not only that, how to flourish as well. It's Yeah. Later on in life, like I'm friends with my- Yes, later in life, m- yeah, I guess you can. But if they come to you, it's for, "Oh, I have this big problem and I need help," like, I'm gonna tell you- My mom, yeah, I, I would say, and my mom's really good at this, like we are... She is my best friend, but when it comes down to it, when I'm asking for advice or something, she is a mom first. She will give that mom like, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that," or, "Oh, maybe you should..." You know what I mean? Like, she's not just like, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Like, you're my best friend. I don't wanna ruffle your feathers." I'm a cool mom. No, she'll ruffle my feathers. She still doesn't care. So yeah, you have to... It's always parent first. And to be honest, I think that's a loser position to be in if you're like, "I'm gonna be a cool mom, and yeah, my kids can- Do whatever they want. Yeah. I love you. They drink at my house. It's cool. I'd rather them do that here than other where, uh, somewhere else. It's- Yeah. There's gotta be boundaries because kids, especially teenagers, are manipulative. I totally was. And my parents were really hard, and I look back now and I'm like, "I mean, thank God," 'cause I probably wouldn't be here right now. But there's a lot of, like, especially in our generation, parents that are like, "No, I wanna be their bestie. I wanna be cool. I wanna do all this." And it's like they walk all over you. They're manipulating you. They're using you. And I think if you come down on them when they're young, when they get older, they'll be like, "I'm so glad my dad," or, "I'm so glad my mom came down on me for doing this," because, you know, it, it makes sense to them when they get older. Yeah. Like, if you allow them to do these, I don't, I don't know how to describe the behavior, but if you allow them to do X, Y, and Z and, you know, they get older and you never said anything to them like, "Why didn't my dad or my mom let me do that?" Yeah. Like s- I would rather be the parent that hammers them and say, "No. Absolutely not." Yeah. "Unacceptable because X, Y, and Z," than just like, "Oh, I wanna be your friend, and I don't wanna upset you." Well, 'cause I understand so much now. "Here's your iPad." Like, so many things that I would get mad at my parents for when I was a teenager, now I'm like, "Thank you for not letting me do that." Exactly. Thank you for like- That's what I'm saying. Exactly I would never let River do that. Thank you, like. But, um, I mean, do you think that every child should be in activities or sports, or do you think that you shouldn't make your kids try sports? Not only in activities or sports, but I think they learn, need to learn how to play an instrument, too. I think that's how they do it in China, Japan, something like that. It's like, oh, not only do you need all As in high school, middle school, whatever, you need to play sports, be athletic, and then activate the, the other side of your brain, too, and play an instrument. A saxophone, guitar, drums, you know, whatever. I played the xylophone and the, the- I don't even know what a xylophone is. It's like the thing, like with- Okay the metal keys, and you hit it with the, like- sticks with the round things, and then, you know, like the gong? Did you have one at your house? Yeah. Oh. I played the piano. That was my main, but then I tried the xylophone with the gong, and it was one concert, I hit the gong too hard and it just silenced out everyone else's instrument. And then after that they said, "Maybe, maybe you shouldn't." But yes, I do think sports, sports are very important. Uh, and, um, I grew up as a team sports guy. I played, you know, I played baseball, T-ball when I was younger. I played soccer when I was, like, under the age of seven. I, I played football pretty much my entire life. I never played an individual sport, and when, I mean individual sport, I'm talking about- Golf golf is a really good example. Um, uh, uh, wrestling is another really good thing that I think- Jujitsu yeah, those sort of things, like the indi- individuals where you don't have a... I think it's good to, to, to have, like, that team aspect, but at the same time, when you have no one else to blame but yourself for, for, you know- Yeah. Accountability's good y- account- yeah. 1,000%. Mm-hmm. Okay. Here, these are just quick little ones that we're literally gonna either you say, like- Like the first one is, who apologizes first? And we're gonna say me or you, okay? They're just quick little ones. Ready? Okay. Okay. Who apologizes first? Me. I feel like it's me. I feel like I've never heard you apologize in your entire life. Oh my God, here we go. We're getting to the point of the podcast where I'm gonna kill him. It's turning into a Dateline. Um, who holds grudges longer? Me. Yeah. That would- yeah, Courtney. Who spends money faster? I spend large amounts faster on cool stuff, in my opinion. I spend little altogether. Courtney, what is... Is, death by a thousand cuts or, like, it's just s- there's a million holes that need to be patched kinda thing. It's- It's just, like, Target, Sprouts, and freaking coffee. That's it, guys. Target, though, is like- It's not that big of a deal. Target is, like, the universal thing for a woman. Like, it's a, it's a rite of passage. It's... Okay. It's my thing. Um- who would survive longer on a reality show? Me. What kinda reality show? There's no context. Oh, a dating one? Or, like, are we talking about Survivor, or are we talking about- No, like a Survivor one would be you. But, like, a dating one, I think it would be me. Uh, uh, who would survive on a dating show? Longer? Me. Why is that? I'm cooler. You think so? I'm more fun. I dunno. Well, that's up for debate. Who would be worse to road trip with? What the hell? You. Why? No, actually you just put your headphones in. I play good music, Courtney. You put your headphones in and you chill. Yeah. And I can drive, too. Oh, oh, you'll- That's another debate, who drives better. That's not even a debate, me 100%. Okay, who's more dramatic when sick? You. Me. I get... If I don't feel good, there's usually a reason. Well, no shit. Just a little backstory. I had mono and valley fever at the same time in the middle of high school, like football, football season. And I thought I was fine, but I felt a little weird. Went to the doctor, mono, valley fever, same time, boom. Um- Making out with too many chicks. That jockman probably- They, they said, they said, I remember, they were saying, "Oh, you're kissing too many, too many guys at football practice." Yeah, or guys in the locker room. I don't know. I don't know, man. Um, who would win in an argument with a customer service rep? I- 1,000% me I, I've been on the custom- I'm on the, I've been on the customer- The receiving end serv- Yeah. I don't know how else to say it, but. So have I. Yeah. So, if they say like, "Hey, dude, like, there's nothing I can do, blah, blah, blah." I'll be like, "Dude, I'm, it is what it is." But Courtney will push it, Courtney will push it past that. Yeah. I usually won't, so I, yeah, I'd say Courtney. I definitely will. Who's more likely to get arrested for something stupid? Me. You. Who's the bigot... Oh, who's the bigger gossiper? Bigot? Who's the bigger, who's the bigger one in the group? Who's the biggest bigot? Who's the bigger gossiper? I don't know. Tyler has, like, the more that he's come into my family, he likes to gossip for sure, surprisingly. You wouldn't think that about him, but he does. But I definitely love to gossip. I- Like, within my realm, within my- I do love a good gossip yeah Who's more likely to start a fight over principle? Principle? Yeah, like the principle of the thing. I would say me. I don't know, that's kind of my strength. Yeah, that is you actually. I think that's, I think that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be me. Okay, we're gonna end on just some, some questions here, some general- From the fans? From the fans. Is it okay to go to bed angry? Yeah, sometimes arguments can't be settled within a timeframe and you just- Oh my God, he drives me crazy with this like, am I gonna throw my head against the wall trying to finish something because, "Oh, I gotta go to sleep soon and I gotta finish it," like. He will sit on something, like for like 24 hours and just not talk about it un- 'cause he needs to like process it, and I'm more of a- Probably more than 24 hours I'm more of like a picker. Like, no, we will talk about this right now, and we will figure this out right now because if you go and sit and don't talk to me about it, I'm gonna just get more and more mad thinking that you don't care about it. That is true. So I like to just, I, I don't like things to- She likes to resolve things instantly- That's true without, I don't wanna say without thinking about it, but- I think about it. I- Resolve it cheaply. Cheaply? Don't ever say cheaply and my name in the same- Corriente. Lo siento. Is liking someone's selfies cheating? I think it depends. Cheating? I wouldn't say cheating. So if you're posting, okay, if you're a female, you're posting bikini pics and all this stuff, but I like a girl's bikini pics, is that a problem? There's a question for you. There's a difference, so I don't think it's cheating. Cheating, no. Cheating, no. I don't, I don't think it's cheating. I think it's- Red flag, yes it's disrespectful. 1,000%. Like, depending on what you're liking. Not 1,000%, but- It is in my opinion well, what are you liking it for? You want them to get notified that- What are you- you are liking it? I don't wanna say what are you posting for, but like- Yeah, he, okay, we have a debate. We have a debate. It ain't a debate. It's a question. I don't know. We should open it for context on our story after this. Okay, so- Episode ends if you want to post bikini pics while in a relationship- But you get mad at your significant other for liking the- Okay, that's- equal content. Like- valid. That's a valid point. He does not like me posting bikini pictures if it's just me alone. Solo. Yeah, that's kind of like a- Like, if I'm, like, with River or I'm with my sister or I'm with him or, like, that type of thing, that's different, but he does not like me just posting a bikini picture alone because he thinks, "Why? Why do you want these people... W- what do you gain from people liking it?" And I get that. Yeah. I don't know what I do gain. It's more of a personal, like, feel good about myself type of thing, but I get how he- Validation from strangers I get your perception on it because I also wouldn't like you going and liking someone's bikini pic. But he thinks that, like, all these single guys or married guys are liking my pics, but mostly it's just girls hyping you up. That's, like, the culture of it, honestly. That- That's a, that's a whole podcast episode right there. That is a whole podcast episode. I do wanna know on my story. I wanna know. I, I'm gonna ask on our story after this airs, does your husband have feelings, strong feelings about you posting bikini or provocative pictures? Provocative? I would hope so. Well, some dudes don't. I mean, when we were at Country Thunder, there was a girl- Giant cow and her dude walking around, and she had nothing on but tiny little stickers on her nipples, and he was walking around proud and just owning it. I'm like, gross. Might as well walk on all fours with a collar around your neck. True. True, true. Okay. Um, should spouses have veto power over friendships? No. A work friendship? Well, if it- Like, uh, I- if it's just a toxic or just dirty, nasty friendship, like- Yeah, I guess My really good friend Juliana's... I'm gonna go over to her house in a little bit. Like, can you watch River? No. Okay. If you put it that way. Hell nah. That's... I thought you meant, like, like I'm- my friendship with another girl or your friendship with another girl. Oh, yeah. I mean, okay, if same sex, it just depends, I guess. But if your same sex friend wants to go clubbing and your single friend from work want- Yeah. I don't say veto power, but I would have a serious conversation with you. Like- Yeah what are you gaining from this relationship? That's the thing about relationships. Veto power or, like, ultimate veto power is- No, but like- it's hard to come by. What... This relationsh- or that friendship isn't feeding you in a positive, like, healthy way, so why do you feel you need it? Yeah, you're not on the same page. Yeah. I would more go about it that way. Um, would you rather know every thought your spouse has or no thoughts at all? Every thought. Then I'd be so disturbed and disgusted. No thoughts or all the thoughts? That's a tough one I think if e- if in every relationship, if you knew what your partner was thinking at all times, I don't think that there would be any relationships ever. Yeah. Honestly. You gotta hide your power level. But if you have no thoughts at all, you don't know anything the person's ever thinking- Well, okay- or feeling, that's toxic too if I couldn't read your mind at all, or like I couldn't ask you a question and you wouldn't give me an answer. Yeah, you just never knew what I was feeling. Yeah, like if I never could just talk to you and you, I would, you would just never tell me how you were feeling about stuff. That'd be very emotionless, so I don't know- Yeah what the fate of the relationship. I don't know. That's a iffy one. Um, is honesty always the best policy? 100%. I'd rather you tell me something and you... Like, don't hide something from me 'cause you think I'm gonna be mad. You know what I mean? Like, "Oh, I didn't tell you because I thought you were gonna be mad." Well, now I'm 20 times- How do- more mad. How do I look? How do I look in this dress? What do you think? You've been lying to me? No. About it? I'm just saying, like, like, okay. You've told me before. Okay, backstory. Back in the day when I was a little bit thicker, um, I asked Tyler, like, "If you could, if... What should I work on? Like, I'm, I'm going to the gym. What should I work on?" What a question, by the way. And he was trying not to answer it, and I was like, "No, I honestly wanna know, like, what you think." And at the time, you told me what? You said, "If you were gonna work on anything, maybe you should work on your arms." He's cringing right now. Totally crushed your whole spirit. But what? I freaking toned those arms up. I did. I, I really worked on them. I think that you can give constructive- Uh, what do you, what do you... Yeah, there you go. Yeah. It's constructive if you- When asked but if it's unconstructive, do you, should you s- like, you just don't- Or unprovoked, don't just go- Oh, yeah. Don't just give your opinion out of nowhere Like, if you just came up to me and were like, "Hey, you should work on-" Hey, everybody listening, though, if somebody asks your opinion on stuff, I think you should 100% give it with your whole heart and just give it to them. With your whole chest. Hey, and then like, they get mad, and then you be like, "Dude, you asked. Like, what are you..." Like, am I... Yeah, that's, that's a get... I don't wanna say get out of jail free card. Mm. Um, is... Okay, this is a good one. I wanna know what you think. Is happy wife, happy life toxic? It's the biggest myth given to our generation. I think that It r- honestly, that is slop So what do you think? I think that you're my partner, I wanna make you happy. But if we don't come to eye to eye on things that- You shouldn't just back down. Exactly. Well put. Something so funny right now, you guys. Um, I don't know how far you can go with that, but I can hear my little munchkin. He's watching a movie in the room next to us, and I can hear him, like, getting into some candy right now. He's so funny. He's taking advantage and he's just like, "Oh, they're in there? I'm gonna get some candy." He's at the island eating gummy bears or something. Yeah. He's too cool. Okay. Last one. Can a marriage survive if the physical attraction disappears? I'm gonna like bluntly say no. Um, my personal opinion, my personal opinion, I think that the physical attraction 100% has to be there for like the emotional to continue to like grow with it. If you just straight up are just like, "I absolutely 100% am not attracted to you," I think it's different. If you're in like a phase, like say they gain a little weight or something, and you're just like, "Oh, I prefer you this way," that's different. But if like years go by and you're just like, "I haven't been attracted to this person in two years." Or what if you catfish somebody? You meet somebody, you catfish them, you were real skinny and then you got large back to your original form. I mean, it'd be hard. That's a hard sell. Or if like the physical intimacy in the bedroom was just terrible. Consistently terrible. What do you do? Go to therapy Yeah, what do you do? What do you do? Yeah. You go to- Go to sex therapy type thing Sex therapy. I don't know Howtobang.com Like, what do you do? Like, what, how do you remedy that? In a relationship, there's so many different components that have to line up. Like the emotional- Yeah, it really is a complicated mess the emotional, the physical, the intimacy, and not all of those are always hitting On all levels Not all of those are always hitting. That's not what we're saying. Sometimes those, some of those things are off. You're emotional super on, but you're just butting heads or, or vice versa or whatever it may be, and then they all align. That's a marriage. You just go through the ebbs and flows. But- I think ultimately at the end of the day, a marriage is the ultimate commitment to the other person. I said, "This is my person. I made vows to them. I'm gonna stick with them through whatever." But that being said, that doesn't mean, oh, I can gain 50 pounds, and they... Like, no, you made a commitment too. Like, you, you have to take care of yourself. You can't just- Like Tyler le- knows that I like when he trims his face. Yeah. Yeah, she reminds me pretty frequently, oh, you should shave. You should take the other person's preference, and I ask Tyler. I'm like- Yeah "What do you think?" I'll ask him like, "Hey, I'm curious, like, what do you like that I wear, like, like- True in public?" You know? Like, "What, what do you s-..." I don't know, because us girls have preferences when it comes to what our husband wears. We're like, oh, you know, like pick out their outfit or whatever it may be. I try to do that. Tyler doesn't like that. But- you should take into consideration what your spouse likes because- you wanna do the same, right? Or you would want them to do the same. Yeah. So there are, like, things like that, but I think a marriage is just this thing that it just, it ebbs and flows- Mm-hmm and it's your job to- There's hard times- ebb and flow and work with it and there's good times, but when there's hard times, that doesn't mean that you can just- Give up on that person, say they're no good, and just, "Nah, this isn't for me." I like, like, "No. No, no, no, no, no." Nope. You gotta let them know or, you know, try your best, like- Yeah you're committed to them- Yeah at the end of the day. That's why those guys cheating at work is so crazy. Yeah. It's so crazy to me that that's ultimate... Because that's what I'm talking about. That's, like, the ultimate betrayal. If you're willing to do that, then what else? Like, you're willing to do pretty much anything. Yeah. Well, and if you're willing to do that to the person that you put legal vows to- And have kids with, too. Like- Yeah, like what kind of- I'm willing to damage my family- Yeah in order to feel good for- Temporarily 15 minutes tops. Yeah. Nope. No, no, no, no, no. No, I don't like it. Huge L. Huge L. But man, thanks for chatting with us. I hope you are, I hope you were entertained and maybe gained different perspective on things from a married couple. We've been together for, in January it'll be how many years? 11 or 12? January? Like, dating-wise, just to give people context. We've been together, in January it's gonna- It was right before your 21st birthday, or right after. So that was '93. I- You were born in '93, so 2014, 2013 we started dating. I think it was like, yeah, so I don't know. I think we're gonna be together for 12, 11 or 12 years in January. Trying to do math off the top of our head. November we will be married for six years? Yes. Yep. So- We got married in 2020 there you go. 11 or 12 years of dating, six years of marriage. We have- When was River born? We don't have any... He always is... I am so bad at people's- birthdays, even my kid. My kid was born 2022. Good job. Little... So we're gonna end on a funny story. I went to the pharmacy to pick up one of River's prescriptions once, and I gave them his birthday. I suck at everyone's birthday, by the way. I went to give them their birthday, like his, and, um, it literally, like, they were like, "Oh, no, like, I can't... I, I don't, I don't see any prescription, like, for him." And I'm like, "No, I'm pretty sure they called it in." So it's like a big thing. They're getting management involved. They're trying to figure it out, and they're like, "No, you know, like, we don't have anything under that name that... or under that birthday. Like, nothing's popping up." And I'm like, "Interesting. Um, okay, let me call and make sure they called it in." So I call the doctor, and they're like, "No, it's there." So the doctor's talking to the pharmacist, and then they start laughing on the phone, and they get off, and they're like, "Hey, like, your son was born in 2022, not 2021. That's why it wasn't coming up." And then I felt like, I was like, "Oh my God, they probably think that I'm here trying to get, like, some random kid's prescription," which it was for, like, an ear infection or something. But they're probably thinking in their head, like, "What the fuck's up with this girl? Like, she's trying to just come swipe people's prescriptions." No, just a honest case of I can't remember anybody's birthday and I got my son's birth year wrong, so nothing, nothing fishy about that at all whatsoever, so. But yeah. If you're gonna pick up medication- Remember your kid's birthday for a child, I think- You should remember I mean, dude, if you're gonna pick up medication for a child, I'm pretty sure that's their parent. That's kinda- Yeah, but... Ai yai yai. But I am so glad you stayed and listened through. If you're here to the end, thank you, and next week we will be back. I will be with my OG co-host, and we have, we honestly have a lot of really good and different guests, um, one being one of Tyler's, like, OG friends, Cole, so I am excited about that. But if you can hear, we're being called. We're being summons by our little toddler, so love you guys. And everybody listening, wanna let you know me and my brother Ryan are starting a podcast soon. And we're gonna cannibalize this audience. He's trying to get, he's trying to get his brother to start... Okay. He's totally not down. He's trying to start a podcast. So- He's a rival just keep an eye on things to come in the future. Oh, God. Good luck with that. River, say bye. Say bye everyone. Bye everyone. See you next week. Who is it? Just say, "See you next week." See you next week. And on that note, goodbye.