Baki & Miyamoto Musashi | JAP/ENG Bilingual Friends 語#4

This is our unscripted conversation format where we chat naturally and switch between Japanese and English in real time. Whenever one of us speaks, we repeat the same idea in the other language and if we make mistakes, we correct each other on the spot.

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To help you train your ears through real, relaxed conversation.

In this episode, we talk about the Baki Manga and the famous Samurai Miyamoto Musashi.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Welcome to Kanji and Coffee, your bilingual listening practice.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Sate, ma anime nitsiteris.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Anime?

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Anime. Okay. Have you ever watched a Japanese anime? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Ah, yes I have. Animasio. Recently I watched uh the new season of Baki Oh. Take in ano Atarashi season ano Atashi season no. Baki no season. Baki no season, yeah, Atarashi. Baki no season Mimasta. Baki no season.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Wo Mimasta.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Wo Mimasta.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Baki me?

SPEAKER_00 0:48

I see. Do you know Baki?

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Yeah, I know the Baki is a manga about fighting. Street fighting, ka. Nanga Baki was still fighting.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Street to fight street fighting in English terms is like kind of illegal fighting on the street. Do you know how to say fighting sports in English?

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Oh no, how to say. Martial arts. Ah martial arts uh kakogi. Kakdogi. Kakdogi.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Kakdogi.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

But it's kind of illegal fighting, right? In Baki.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yes, there are some battles.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Competition mo also. It's kind of underground competition, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Ah, in the maybe yes, in the first or second seasons it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Chika kakto. Chika kakto kto chika kaktozo mit. The underground corsum of the fighting. So Chikak. Chika kakto. Chka. Chikao kakto. Chikawa underground. Chika o kakto. Chika kakto. Chika kakto. Chika kaktozo. Wakanda.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

I don't know the word. I see. It is kind of underground fighting, yes. Um the newer season the newer seasons kind of get more and more weirder. Some Atarashi Natter. Don donga Moto hen ni nauga henat tikir na tikteru. Sodoa Nazareska, why? Who is the rival or who is the antagonist? Tariga Aite.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Antagonist is like the main opponent, kind of the bilan.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Oh, I see. Antagonist.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

The target in the season.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

Target to win in the season. For example, in Baki, yes. So no season then.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Mokyo naite is so. It's the opposite of protagonist. Maybe you know protagonist. Protagonist, I think. Protagonist is the main character. Huh? So protagonist and antagonist. Main character. Hirowa. For example, in a drama, there is no hero. There's no power shot. I saw that.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

I didn't know that. I saw like uh anytime you say hero for the main person, so Naga It's mo Shujinko wa hero de Yunota para.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Shujinkowa protagonist?

SPEAKER_01 3:26

Sodani protagonist, main person.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Main character. So then main character is protagonist, eh? I see. So recently in the new seasons in Maki the antagonists are becoming weirder and weirder. So the most recent season, the main antagonist is no, she zenwa. Ichivan Saikin? No. Shi Zhenwa.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Saiikin Sai Shin. Sai Shin Saikin do S. Sai Shinhua latest, the Sai King wa recent. Latest and recent are they not the same?

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Uh yeah, same but uh So I can use both? Yeah, both are okay. Ah okay, okay. So I know So no Mokteki no Aitewa. I know the main antagonist is Miyamoto Musashi.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Ah hi hi hi. I think the f most famous season in the batchy. Oh really? I think so. I I liked that season actually. Ah, you watched it? Uh I have laid some of the uh episodes and some of the seasons. Not that I fully completed. And you read the manga? Yes. Manga yonder. Xka no season to ka episode and no no no. Zimbo yonda wij naika. So na ni koska line the girl, I know almost. Like hotondosh dilu.

unknown 4:57

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

No no Miyamoto Misashi. Pigo de? Yeah, I said in the English first.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Miyamoto Misashi, no, Nihon no you mean Kendo. Kendo Tikama. Samurai na? I think the famous most famous samurai in Japan. Sam Miyamoto Misashi.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yeah. Yeah, he's I think also famous internationally. I know. Sika ni more?

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Sura na why? How did you know Miyamoto Misashi for the first time? Isima Miyamoto Musashi or Shitanwa Nanika?

SPEAKER_00 5:39

That's a good question, Ishitanane. I don't remember. I think if you're interested in Japanese history and you get information about anything related to samurai or the samurai era or ninjas, his name will show up. Mostono Nihono Hurui Bunka Mitaina Kyomi Ariba Zetae Musashi no Namaega Detekuru Tashkarine. So ma I think in some maybe some animes, I'm not sure they might also mention his name. Tabunaga Anime demo Sono Namaya mention teku Genkyu Sareru. Genku Sareru. Genkyu Saru.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Genkyu Saru Ma they must mention about the Miyamoto Musashi in Samurai or Edo P or the manga.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Ma no Miyamoto Musashi Nitsuita Zita Kurenai to ikenayona Kanzida. Edo to ka samurai no Hanashita Totokuni. Ano sai sunishano anime? Nanga anime oramanga? Ma anime ka manga to mo. Also for me for the first time to hear about the Miyamoto Musashi name is b from the anime or manga.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Really? So you don't learn about him in school? Actually we don't learn.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Shimasen? I don't we don't. Actually we don't learn in school. So then she day benkyo shimasen. Nande why? Nande, that's cool. Nanzenara Miyamoto Musashiwa Anu De Kisitikini Sugoto Sashito Dewa Nai. Eh? Really? Nanka Miyamoto Musashi is not a historically great person. But he is uh really famous because of the Gorin no Soto Kane. Gorin no Gorinos it today. Kalewa Gorin no so this go you me this Gorin No Soto one of the souls, his thoughts of the candle or like uh martial arts or training, your spirits or he wrote a book that's really uh famous and so the wa to Gorin Nosot five Saku Mita Imidan Sudan Gobonsi to he kaze king fire water soil wind and gold or metal the five elements the five elements of the samurai training I think a samurai knows you don't know but seesin' not training mind training training mental training the korewa lanka i don't natuko ni kono concept this concept used to any place in the game. Tatoeba game? Yeah my game to ka manga to ka in games uh naruto no saw that Sweeton toka ninja no in the Naruto there is uh some of the uh ninja arts like water elements or fire elements that those elements or elements came from the sort of the Miyamoto Musashi. Really?

SPEAKER_00 9:25

Wow, okay. I thought they are very general terms in Japanese.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

The fire jutsu then gama element image. When they make a game or anime, but the what is the main part is from the Miyamoto Masashi tabu. Wow. So the ka I know Parakirus Parakirus they he also written about the elemental yeah about the elements, yeah. Fire, water, wind so then.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

Sorry, can't yeah, I think metals.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

I'm not sure, yeah, yeah. I know Parakirus do you think you made it, so then it oh mochi who needs I see. Wow, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

A game took a little ma atos, rock sida's paper, huh?

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Uh-huh. Rock paper cesas.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

This system is really convenient to make a game, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:56

True, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

In the element. Yeah, like Pokemon, for example. So so so so so. Lakara. Kono Yosoi I know Bindi Dakara. Game mod skirting, yeah? Lakara Koreo by you know what it's good to cut at also system, he is strong to me, or I'm more um advantage than you or not. Ah, yatun hoga or in or tuna isoga i cara, I think. Ah or no you da to ka. So you can you know. I show is matchup. Matchup to ka combination to ka. But also you can say about the uh matching up okay combination of with the opponent and the which is advantage. Combination compare compare with the opponent and uh which side has um the advantage. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Those relationships you can say ISO.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Ah, okay. I should gabaru it to god the ice the matchup is bad.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

So so so okay. I did a bate and is advantageous. Hi.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yuri Furi is advantageous and disadvantage or weakness. Okay. Yeah, anyway, it's uh really interesting to see the yeah Musashi Miyamoto Yoto Musashi in the current era in the current uh world of the future fighting against uh some uh professional and famous characters fighters from uh the bunk anime. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

What is the f uh another interesting point of the baki that season is because they usually fight without weapon because of the martial arts manga and no bukyo tskawana idea? That the kakuto manga No spoilers, please.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

In the fighting. Ma he sometimes uses sometimes. He also fights without Mata's.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

He was really famous as a samurai. But finally, uh in the extreme point of the his life, he you are right, he don't need a sword. Is this really true?

SPEAKER_00 14:16

So he became a martial artist and all the judo to gather, uh judo, he did.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

So he don't need to use uh a weapon, but he can fight even without a weapon. I see. Is it so kario samuraito sta you made at takido a no Sai takini Kenga Iranai? Ken wanakemo Takarayo ni, Jimoto Mangawa, King wonaska natakal kotomo.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Hm so in the manga he sometimes imagines his and you can see like the imaginary soul. So the manga anime there nanga msasiga kin or an uh sozo sozo stairu. So it's uh concept war. The concept is very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Baki no manga no sugar. What is a really interesting point of baki manga is uh there um theory in the manga.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Theory?

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Yeah, theory is manga is really weird. Sounds really weird, and uh we cannot believe and uh there is no evidence maybe. Uh no Baki no manga no naka no didn't was good hand there. Naka if there is a character who can um stick on the wall by grapping power.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Might be possible.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Oh no fiction to reality not confusing and it's not drawing separated, but ma you coni ma Hi Yeah so almost Yeah they're really mm blurring the lines we say of fiction and reality. Drawing?

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Blurring, like a blur, like you cannot see blur.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

So I may not draw.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

So yeah, they they always try to explain unbelievable things in a kind of believable way. Nanka sono light speed so so so so so Nanakit think nan how can I say light speed kosuku?

SPEAKER_01 17:47

A closekosak mangae, nanika ano Gaku Gaku takina Ano Kalaksha Gatska Hotoba nde Ano Kono Akirukuga nan Chakiro Atarat if you have the grapping power for over six thousand or something blah blah blah it will be diamond with the we say grip strength.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Grip strength, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Diamond in the human ching got the strongest person there is the strongest character, Hamma Yujiro, and uh Yujiro grab the carbon and diamond to yakta and so sech tanga sech tanko Diamond Shingar Zari dakilo if it's the power over, it can be to Naruh to Nata Sol Kamo.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

So the Yeah exactly, yeah. It's uh yeah uh one more example is there is a fighter that has poison in his hands and if you touch if he touches you you get poisoned. So no naga fightagairu ano karakter gayro Dokshun and Dokshu Dokshu Dokshu Poison hand the Dokshu Atokshu Dokshun Karakta I don't know anno Sono Karaga um musi Sono teo atata atata Atetara Atetetara Naga Doguo I know Kurao Doku Kurao Kurao Kurao get You get in poison. Is Kurao specifically for poison? Uh yeah, Kurao is like uh you get damage. Ah, okay. Yeah, and they explain it that he trained every day by putting his hand in poison over and over and over so no until you soak the poison into your nail or like a hand, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Yeah, exactly. So no. Take a tenidokuga shimikungwali, I don't know, eh? Like a poison hand wa, I think there is a sum of the people in the historic in the history Chin China. But ma Sorumo Choto unbelievable, even that is very unbelievable. So to Shinji Gatae.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Yeah, we cannot prove it, no. I recommend watching uh the new Baki season winase.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

If you're a boy, you definitely love it. But if you are a girl, maybe it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

It's just about being the strongest, becoming the strongest.