Well This Will get The Masses Blabbering.

#9 Steady dives straight into the conversations most people avoid — flags, freedom, Australia Day, identity, ego, and where the line actually is.

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SPEAKER_04 0:00

It's amazing, isn't it? Like before the go bag was basically pissing cocaine.

SPEAKER_02 0:08

That was in the 90s. That was your go bag. That's probably why it was called the go bag. The goeie bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:13

Go bag. And now it's actually fucking food. Who would have thought? We're gonna jump right in. And um start today with Oh shit, this will get us canceled. Well, this will get us probably get me in trouble, but fucking I don't care. It's about the burning of the Australian flag. And and uh what happened on Australia Day and uh people having their own agendas because of a flag. And I'm against burning the flag. I think it's disgraceful, I think it's disrespectful, and not only to Australian citizens, but also to the men and women who fought under it, to the Anzacs who lost their lives under it. Um I just think if you're going to get pissed off with this nation, fair enough, but find some other way to fucking do it simple as that. There's gotta be a better way. And and I d um uh Shay disagrees with me on this point, but fuck it. See, it's gotta be a two-way street no matter what you do in this world, it can't be a law or a rule or something for one group of people and not the other. Right? So I believe hypothetically, okay, I'll I'll I'll pose this question to you guys out there. Hypothetically, if I had burnt the aboriginal flag in a digital realm, not physically, but in the digital realm, would I get hateful um emails and and and comments just as many if I actually did it physically in the realm.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

See, I think it's the it's the intent behind it. So it's there's still that's your opinion. So whether it's digital or real, it's symbolic. So yeah, I think people would uh I I think you get a lot of hate for it.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

But but whether it's real or symbolic is so if I got okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

Yeah Here comes the spin.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

If I got married in married in that digital realm, would I be married?

SPEAKER_02 3:35

Uh say like in a computer game?

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Or just in virtual virtual reality realm.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

It probably comes down to the laws within the country. Uh to me, digitally getting married is probably no, you can't do it. I don't know. Ask me that question in five years' time.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

Yeah, but but I'm saying it's digital make-believe.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Correct. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

I'm marrying uh I do a routine about going out with an AI girl.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

Yeah, yeah. How's that count?

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Oh, she's a fucking bitch. She's fucking everywhere all at the same time. You can't get away with it.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

She walked out when you she fent out you want to bring it up.

SPEAKER_04 4:21

She's fucking there. It's like fuck. But so my digital AI girlfriend, yeah, right? Is that my girlfriend?

SPEAKER_02 4:44

The lines are being blurred, that's for sure. Do you believe it's your girlfriend? No, I do it for a bit of fucking fun. Okay, then it's not your girlfriend then.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Sometimes it's just Ben so with that logic, yeah, if I burn the Aboriginal flag or the Australian flag in in the virtual space.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

How is that not real either? It's it's not, but it's still the thought process behind it. But why? Well, because there's intent that you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

But if I'm having fun with my AI girlfriend, yeah, that's not my AI girlfriend. Right?

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:27

And I'm burning a flag, that isn't really a flag.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

You're making a statement though. And the state what would why so why would you do it? What's the statement?

SPEAKER_04 5:38

Well, the statement is if if people can burn the Australian flag, yeah, um, on Australia Day, um, why can't I burn the the Aboriginal flag?

SPEAKER_02 5:50

You can do whatever you want. Of course you can.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

But Ben say the uh if the Aboriginal burns the Australian flag, it's considered a political statement. Right? And if I do it according to who though? The media.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Yeah, but it keeps coming back to the media, but we're not.

SPEAKER_04 6:12

But this is the the whole argument I'm trying to to figure out in my own fucking head.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

So for them it's a political statement because of uh invasion day or whatever, yeah. But if I do it, even if it's um physically or in a virtual space, it's more I'm being racist. So so I I I suppose I'm asking people why the difference.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Yeah. I think it's a manufactured story that the media have come up with.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

Like I Oh, it's all day dates back to the bicentenary. Yeah, when they had a reenactment of Captain Cook landing for the bicentenary.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

Whether that was a good idea or not, probably not.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:18

Because what it sparked off on the bicentenary is all this other stuff that has nothing to do about Australia Day.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:33

You know, I I look, I there's been atrocities done to Aboriginals.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

No one fucking denies that.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

No.

SPEAKER_04 7:44

And we would never because the proof's there.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

But at the same time, mate, I'm restrained. I was born here.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

I'll die here.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:00

I did not kill anyone, aboriginal or any other person.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

I did not steal anyone from their generation.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

No.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

Generational home. Yeah. Which was fucking disgusting as well. And it's been done all around the world. Not saying that makes it right, but it's been done all around the world. Yeah. Because of do gooders thinking they know fucking better.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:30

They don't know better.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

I don't know how this conversation's going when you've got a pirate flag behind.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

You know what I'll I'll fucking I'll fucking tie this in.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

We've got some confused viewers at that moment.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

No, I'll fucking tie this in. I'll tie this in beautifully. Okay. Go for it. Pirates.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:58

Yep. And privateers.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 9:03

Right? And privateers for you who don't know. Privateers were pirates that were sanctioned by governments.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

If they if the Navy couldn't do something because bit on the border of bit sus.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

On the fence, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:26

They will send in the privateers.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:31

At least the pirate flags here. And at least the pirate flag. And pirates were honest.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Were they?

SPEAKER_04 9:44

Fucking hope they were. Okay. They were pirates.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

They used to rape, pillage, and kill. They were they were honest about what they did.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

So they're kind of like the Charlie Sheens of the water. Like they were just straight up, this is what we're gonna do. We're not gonna kitchen at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Take the flu.

SPEAKER_04 10:04

We're gonna take your money, probably rape ya, or kill ya, or both, and then sink your ship.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you knew you knew what was coming. That's what they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they weren't hiding it.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

No.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

No, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Not the not a cool thing, but at least they're honest about it.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Are we getting on to pirates are more reputable than uh I don't know. Australia.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

I think pirates were more reputable reputable than the Australian government. So maybe we need to unless they're honest about it.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

You know, how how honest we're pirates?

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:48

We're going to fuck ya. But we're telling you that we're going to do it.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's it's it's what they said and what they did all lined up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

Yeah. And and and and that's that's why, you know, you can learn a lot from history.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Yeah, for sure.

unknown 11:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

And I think that's the whole part of Australia Day. And and you speak to some Aboriginal people as well. It's about if you cherry pick everything in your life, you will not learn much.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Yep. So you can't just take the good things, mate. So should we look at what you're talking about here, right? So we've we've got uh all these like well, I'm a convict. I've come over on a on a ship.

SPEAKER_04 11:48

They didn't want to be here.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

No, but we're here and we're living on someone else's land.

SPEAKER_04 11:55

We've got to find They weren't here.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Who?

SPEAKER_04 11:58

The Aboriginal they were here when we got here, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

But originally they migrated around down from I think it's Indonesia way when the lands were won.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

They did a mass a mass walkabout and brought the fucking dingo with them.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

And that's proof. Yep. You cannot disclaim that that's actually fact.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Yeah. But we're right now we're all stuck with each other. So how do how do we unite and all get along? How do we all play nice?

SPEAKER_04 12:32

Look, it's simple as this. Right? As a country, and we've done this already. We fucked up. Sorry, and sorry doesn't even touch it, but we're sorry.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Let's move forward together.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Yeah. Done. Yep. So do you still want to burn the Aboriginal flag? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Virtually. Virtually, virtually. Virtually. Don't take that out of context level. Never physically.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

You're not going to get me on that one, mate. That's a tough debate. There's just some things that I go no.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

We were talking about it in another podcast.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:30

The artist saying no. Yeah. Sometimes it works in your favor and not. Yeah. Yeah. I just go, no, fuck it. And I'm through, I'm 57 years old. Right?

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:44

I'm through apologizing for shit I didn't do.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

No matter what it is in my life.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 13:54

If I didn't do it, I don't apologize.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 13:57

Like we had words this morning, right? I was a bit of a dick. So I apologize to you.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:04

That's what you do. Yeah. Because it's you and me.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

Right?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 14:09

But if it's nothing to do with me, like that I don't have to apologize for what someone else fucking did.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

No.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

Why should I apologize yet again and again and again and again?

SPEAKER_02 14:22

Yeah, no, you don't have to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

Well, I shouldn't. No. One apology is enough. Yeah. Then let's never, never look. This is what people get confused in. I've heard people say that the Jews should get over the Holocaust, right? They will never get over something like that.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 14:49

And nor should they. Right? What happened to the Aboriginals is disgusting in our country. But there comes a time where you don't get over it, but you work through it.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

You work through it to another point where we can come to a situation where at least we can get on and get this country back where it fucking should be.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Okay. That almost leads into a good segue on uh how's your party going? Fit in or fuck off party.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

Hi and welcome. Welcome to the headquarters of the fit in or fuck off party. And if you don't like it, fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

How are the numbers going? Getting some support? Getting a bit of support. Yeah. Right. You're going to have to take on Pauline.

SPEAKER_04 15:59

I don't need that to take on Pauline. Oh, there's a few things I wouldn't do that Pauline's going to do. Yeah. Like she's going to fuck around with NDIS. Yeah. I don't think it should. No. I think it needs overhaul.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

And I think as far as the NDIS goes, I think and Centrelink and other institutions as well. I think the A V-Sight Committee that they have doesn't fucking work.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 16:31

And that's a whole fucking problem.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

You know, and government expenditure. I mean, fucking hell, dude. A hammer doesn't cost$400.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

No. No.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

You know?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Yeah. Come on. So is the pirate flag going to be the national symbol for the fit-in or fuck-off party? I'm sure, I'm sure you'll have a flag.

SPEAKER_04 16:59

I thought this fucking idea. You just gave me an idea, right? Yeah, yeah. So what it should be is where the pirate skull is, right? You have a picture of my head. And instead of the cross swords, you have two cross crutches.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Crutch. Okay. All right. On entry to the uh I can see the doors just opening now to that picture of you and, you know, a couple of crutches.

SPEAKER_04 17:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Yeah. All sorted. Yeah. Come on in. We we we welcome everyone, but if we don't, fuck off. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:38

No, it's not that made. It's like we have we are and have been a multicultural country since the year. Yeah. Since the first fleet.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

You know? And and I don't care whether you're black, white, green, yellow, pink, whatever, you believe in Buddha, or you believe in God, or you believe in Muhammad or Allah.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

Don't care.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:14

Right? Not that not my business that part.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

What is my business is when you come to this country, right? And you come to a basically a Christian country, an English speaking country, and you disregard everything and think that we should abandon our beliefs and go to York.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah, that's that's a fair call. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

That's what I I I know. If you want to um be about whatever.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

But they enforce your beliefs and tell me that I need to fucking convert.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Yeah, yeah. What do you think the iconic Australian looks like these days? The stereotypical Australi Aussie.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

I don't think it looks like anything.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

No.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

I think we're we're beyond that.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

And it's not what that a person looks like these days.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Right? Yeah. It's their ideology.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:37

You know, if if if okay, if you want to immigrate to another country as your right is because you're able-bodied, you're given a list of countries that will take you at this point in time.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

Right?

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

You agree with me there?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:00

So therefore, it's your decision, yes?

SPEAKER_01 20:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:08

So why would you, as uh English-speaking white male, yeah, decide to go to a country that doesn't speak English, predominantly dark skinned, and worship anything else but Christianity. And then once you get there, start telling them what's wrong with their country.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

Yeah, no, that's that's not the way to approach it. Why would you do that? No, you wouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

But that's what happens in this country.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

And I think there there comes a time where people just go, mate, we don't care where you're from.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

We don't even care what you believe in.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:03

But then most of these people are uh escaping things like being told what to believe in.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:16

And the irony is that if they get to Australia, then tell us what we should fucking believe in.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's but you know, like through COVID, when uh everyone came up from Melbourne to Queensland. Yeah. You could feel it, the amount of people that are coming up here. Now I put myself in their shoes, and it's like, well, I probably would have done the same. If I was locked down for three or four months or whatever, how long? And these are people in our country, but all of a sudden, everywhere up north here is now inundated with people. Right. So it's like, oh fuck, it used to be nice and quiet, and I love that, right? But now it's so busy. Right. So, but I I you know I put it into that. Context that you know, look, people are going to do what they want to, and and probably people are as you said, people are coming over from overseas because they want to live a better life and they're in a position we want them to have a better life. Yeah, yeah. And I'd say look, if if if you come over and you start preaching, you know, something that's anti, you know, against Australia, then you've got no place in Australia, and you probably deserve to be deported.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I always go back to treat, you know, treat people how you like to be treated.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

But also don't burn the fucking flag.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Correct. Yeah. So would you still digitally burn the flag? I'm transfixed on this now. You're just giving ten points and then you keep going back to a love it, City. Alright, should we take a quick break and we'll get some some questions?

SPEAKER_04 22:59

Oh fuck, I was getting in there. Okay, you want to get good.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

I'm sure that I'm sure the punters have got an opinion on it.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

Yeah, and I just want to reiterate to people that I am not racist. I'm really not.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

No.

SPEAKER_04 23:17

And I don't care who you are.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 23:20

But the there just comes a time in in everyone's life, then there's gotta be a line in the sand.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Yep. Imagine if ego entitlement was a race. I'd be racist then, I think. If ego, these are actually, you know, um traits of human beings. I'm not a massive fan of ego, and we've got that everywhere. But but why? What?

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Why aren't you a f uh a fan of ego?

SPEAKER_02 23:58

Uh well in healthy doses, yeah. Healthy ego, yeah. But unhealthy ego, where you're you know, you're constantly puffing your chest and you think you're bigger and better than everyone else, then uh not offense.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

That's that's ego to run right. But everyone needs it Yeah, that's the hell, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

For sure, ego.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Everyone needs it to survive.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yeah, so healthy ego, fine with unhealthy ego. I'm very racist. But you're not racist. No, but if it was if if we were defining and and you know how are you racist if you've got an ego? No, I'm not. I'm not. But I'm just saying if ego was a race. And the and the dark side of ego, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

Looking at you going, fuck what did you have given the break? Give me fucking slogans having in my kitchen.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Everyone's like, I don't like that Show is he's a racist against the egos. He's not fitting in, he can go fuck off. Yeah. But I think I I don't think that's a bad way to live, but I think also the fact is you're talking to me and I've got a different opinion to you. And we don't agree on everything, do we? No. I don't think we probably 50-50, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 25:22

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what makes these sort of platforms great. You it's it's the opinion. Like you're throwing it out to people on Facebook. Tell me, tell us what you think.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

I don't mind if you got an opinion, but fuck, you know, just don't give a blanket.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Um yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:46

You know?

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Why?

SPEAKER_04 25:47

People come to this and it goes back to little things, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

People come to this country and live in there for 40 years, but don't bother learning English.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 26:00

But it's the language of the country. Yeah, I'm okay. Be like be like me going to Japan and living there, and I I'm okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I was not speaking Japanese. Yeah, but I'm okay with it if you're a good person. If you're just sticking to your keeping to yourself and you're just speaking Italian, whatever, and you you know, you're with your family.

SPEAKER_04 26:22

You wouldn't at home in that, but you've got to interact with the people in the country, mate.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

I well it shouldn't be on me to learn Italian. Yeah, if you go to Italy, yeah, and I suppose you would, you know. But there's there's always gonna be a minority of people that there's always gonna be someone that does something that is untowards, or you know, there's always gonna be a one percent.

SPEAKER_04 26:43

Yeah, but there's also ways that you can curb it.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Curb it from that one percent?

SPEAKER_04 26:52

No, forget about one percent, you're always gonna have that.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

But there's there's maybe there should be uh on immigration. When you come to this country, you have to have a standard of English.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:13

Yeah, and I'm not talking about you know fucking you know po knowing poetry and all that kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

But b basic stuff. I think being able to go down to a shop and knowing what's what and being able to order it.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

That's basic stuff.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

I think most people would.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

There's some that don't make. Yeah. And that's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

And I think if you if you curb that a little bit, maybe maybe the animosity that's coming out at the moment would actually diminish a little bit on its own.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Okay. Do you ever wish that we had a a hacker like the Kiwis?

SPEAKER_04 28:12

Because I felt I find that We have, but it's very simple.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Advanced Australia Fair?

SPEAKER_04 28:17

No.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

No? Oh, yeah, it's very simple. Yeah, yeah. We're a simple person.

SPEAKER_04 28:25

Like, you know, Jesus. We don't want too many fucking syllables.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

All right. So we go back to we'll answer some questions from these guys. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:38

Okay, so I was at home when I was in Sydney, this about 30 years ago or more. So I was at home and had one of those days where like every fucking five minutes on the front door and people wanting money. You know, just every fucking five minutes, and by the third or fourth one, I'm just getting pissed off. I went, not again for fuck's sake. So the door knock came again. I opened it, and by this sage, I just I just went, oh fuck it. And I was looked at him all and I started dribbling.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

On Q.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

On Q and I've just gone, Mummy's not home. I got no money T T. And the hardest thing about that was keeping a straight face until I shut the fucking door again.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

That's a good mechanism. So what what was their response to that?

SPEAKER_04 29:57

They just left.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

They left. That was their response.

SPEAKER_04 30:00

They left. They they they went they went touching that one, mate.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Should have pulled out a bag of money and said, I would have bought what you were gonna, you know, whatever was on the table. I was buying some times ten.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

And what is it? Uh while we're on the subjects of door knockers and all that, just briefly, right? You get these uh Jehovah Witnesses and they're coming to you out, and they always give you um literature, right? Yeah, yeah, and give you quotes in the Bible to look up to right.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:40

Now in in in the the whole world of recovery, we have our own texts.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

And um the nickname for the book is the big book.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

And then talks about the twelve steps of recovery and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Yep. Did you did you find that really beneficial to your recovery? I did.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

I I live my life as much as I can buy them. Yep. But you ask them to read your book, that means something to you.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Or if it's Saturn is a different um uh different killer fish. Uh mindset.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

It's all one way straight. Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Yep. Yeah. Um well it's a uh with I've had a Jehovah come to the door and say that um oh if if I'm if you're not a Jehovah, you can't make it to heaven. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Yeah. And I said to them that if I make it to the Pooley Gates, I'll put a um ticket for two on it and I'll I'll say that you're allowed in as well. So I don't know, like to have someone come to your house and say that you're not a welcome in heaven if you don't join this.

SPEAKER_04 32:07

Oh, that's all right. I see, I I studied the Bible a little bit. Yeah. So you So what you do is when you get stuff like that, you just look at them and go, Psalms 50 verse 6.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Jesus, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

For the heavens opened up and deemed him worthy, for God Himself is judge.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04 32:31

So therefore you're judging me, so you won't be going to heaven either.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Oh, okay. What was so you clean yourself up from uh all the slobber from the the door-to-door salesman, you have a Jehovah come to your door and you start uh telling verses from the the Bible.

unknown 32:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

What was their what would be their response to that? Um probably got stuffed, stuffed very humbling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

They didn't say much after that.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Um, because they knew they were in the wrong.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Are you telling me you probably changed some people's views on religion and their No, but the way the way they preach the word.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, the Bible says that you should go out and convey the message of God.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Right?

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 33:26

Nowhere in the Bible does it say to fucking ham someone. Yep. You know, and completely disregard their thoughts on spirituality.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

It doesn't say that.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

No, no. So that's what they do. So it sort of entwines with coming over from another culture and trying to indoctrinate people with whatever religion you believe. We're just talking about the same thing, aren't we?

SPEAKER_04 33:57

It is.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:59

Whether you're from overseas or not, yeah, you're you're not okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

My thoughts are these are the extreme, these are extreme though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

But no matter who you are, yeah, whether it's religion or anything else, the most the most dangerous person on this earth. Even more dangerous than a terrorist, and that's a big call.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Yeah, it is a big core, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

Is a zealot.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

Because a zealot cannot be reasoned with.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:48

A zealot will have their own set of principles, and that's it. You can say logic to them, yeah. Anything you want, but because it's not in their wheelhouse, yeah, and they believe this and that's it, they're dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Okay. So they look again, we're talking this 1% extremists here that um if if they act if they if they're not not everyone, but if they're acting, if they act on it too.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

A zealot is a zealot.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

And they're dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

More than a terrorist, you reckon?

SPEAKER_04 35:26

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Because it isn't a terrorist a zealot? They're just acting on their beliefs.

SPEAKER_04 35:34

But a a zealot a zealot to me, they're acting on beliefs, yeah, but a zealot can actually turn the tide more than a terrorist can.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

Right. In in what way?

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Because they're single-minded. Okay. So a terrorist act will kill a certain amount of people, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:05

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:06

A zealot doesn't kill, but because of their ideology, it creeps around to more people.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Okay, so it it's it spreads like cane totes.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 36:20

That's why they're more they're they're they're more dangerous. It's more of a a creeper.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Right. If you will. And then it hits the 51% and it becomes gospel. Yeah. Yeah, which is danger. Yeah, that's a fair point.

SPEAKER_04 36:36

That's that's that's how I yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, what happened Bondi was a tragedy.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:45

You know, and and it's because of zealots wanting to go that extra step.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:54

And that's the danger.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Mm. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Let's stay away from it.

SPEAKER_04 37:02

You will do as I say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I'll kill you.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah. Yeah, hang on.

SPEAKER_04 37:09

How do you reason with that?

SPEAKER_02 37:11

I thought you were just selling cookies.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

Like what Yeah. Got any peanut brittle there? Come on, Sunshine.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Well, anyway, so I thought this was uh casting for me, little Miss Sunshine. I thought you were a boy scout. Are you gonna teach me how to tie some knots, you know? Oh, jeez. Yeah, well, but you this is the thing. I think you you start to pick um you can again back to the red flags, which is another podcast, you start to see red flags and and and no, hang on, this person's dangerous. And you tune out, I think, don't you? Especially you. Owning the fit it in or fuck off party. No zealots allowed. That'll be one of the policies, is it? No terrorists, no zealots.

SPEAKER_04 38:02

But then you got in all seriousness, right? You've got to be careful of fit in and fuck off too.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:13

Because then do you become zealots for sure.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

See, it's it's it's funny, but it's a fine line, mate.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

You could be on this roundabout that just keeps coming round and round and round and never get off the off the turn, you know.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

It's like what is is is acceptable and what is not.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna have to come up with some good policies for this party. It's gonna be yeah, because we don't want any contradictions on itself, or there's always gonna be contradictions, but I think the bit the big ones are especially in Queensland, man.

SPEAKER_04 39:03

Stop fucking closing hospitals, yeah, and then belly aching, there's not enough medical support.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_04 39:15

And can't be alone. We've got a private hospital, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

That were is 90% shut down.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:25

Why?

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Yeah, that's strange.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

And that goes, there's not enough nurses, there's not enough this and not enough that. Well, train them and put them in places like this. Open the beds up.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

Do you know what my theory on this? I think it's the start of the machine age taking over. There's going to be less and less people that want to actually become nurses or you know, doctors. No, but it's not, mate.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

It's the fastest growing nursing is you talked or now it's one of the the the fastest growing um there is. And it's because they're not just nurses anymore, they're nurse practitioners.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah, okay. Yep. So let's let's fast forward ten years from now. Are you talking to a nurse or are you talking to a robot with and when it comes to your symptoms? What's going on? Probably both. Probably both, yeah. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

Probably both. And I think both will have its place.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

For sure.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Well But what I'm saying is, imagine if that hospital that's 90% shut is turned into uh like they got a small nurses clinic on the south side.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

Imagine having a big one.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

And and that hospital, instead of getting dilapidated, is being used for something.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

Which takes the the the pressure off casualty at Gimpy Hospital.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:11

Alright?

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

Imagine having a place where it's got its own fleet of minibuses. Seriously, imagine someone like me who's got a massive infection, who has to go to hospital. I just ring them, go, I've got an infection again.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 41:31

They go, okay, well, we'll schedule you in your intake at three o'clock this afternoon.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Or get a shuttle bus to come grab.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Shuttle bus coming. Why not? Why not do something different that's not being addressed?

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:48

And elderly people and disabled people, they're afraid of doing things because they can't actually get there.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Yeah, well, I think the older you get, you start to lose your confidence as well.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

And so those things why not have something that has that built into it.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. Well, I agree. There's there's some idea. There's some food for thought for the fit uh fit in a fuck up party. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:18

And instead of spending$350 billion on submarines that we'll probably never get, or trillion dollars.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

How about uh why not set up uh a satellite town in remote uh remote Queensland that actually helps it's there and then helps everyone in a thousand K radius instead of driving 2,000 Ks for a service.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Maybe you need to sit down with Elbow and have a have a chat, you know?

SPEAKER_04 42:58

No, I need to sit I've got some ideas. No, I need to sit down with someone intelligent.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Right.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

And it's not Alba.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Right, okay. So who who could you sit down with today and uh broach all these uh subjects if I was going against someone with half of half a brain on them, it'd have to be Pauline. Right, okay. Sit down with Pauline, have a cup of tea, talk about this, these things and how we can improve.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

And that's all you have to do.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:31

But that's all you have to do is is sit down and talk.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 43:38

Instead of going, no, it can't be done.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:42

Let's come up with some ideas and then say, How can we do it? Or how can we achieve some of it?

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Well, I think that that's how everyone should be thinking. Well, why are we? Because we're indoctrinated with all this shit, all this drama, right? And what's the problem?

SPEAKER_04 44:06

No, you know what the problem is, isn't it? It goes back to what you were saying before. Yeah. The fucking media. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

Because they suck you in the clickbait shit. It goes back to that, mate.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

But so it's it's also understanding how your brain works, and that's how social media's working these days, is it's showing things that you love.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

Well, it is because algorithms.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:32

Algorithms are now playing a big part.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

They're playing a huge part.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

I mean, even now from when do you find July this year? Yeah. My my package for NDIS won't be um will be looked at again next year, not by a human being, but by a uh AI algorithm.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

Okay. To see if you're worthy it or if not?

SPEAKER_04 45:00

Whether I get more money to be reviewed. Reviewed.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:07

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 45:09

Well, it could that be progressive though? Could it be a good thing? Because it's got to be reviewed at some stage.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

Well, for for instance, because of my foot and my cellulitis, there's another thing that has to be added.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:25

Because that's now part of my disability.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Right. Okay. It's not going away. So if they review that and say, okay, he's got an infected foot and this and that, do they then give you more money?

SPEAKER_04 45:38

Well, I they'll give me more resources for things like wound care.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

More resources like um getting to a hospital.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

So that's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

That's if they take it into account.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

This is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

You know, they have to, and this is the thing with a lot of disabilities. They get worse as you get older.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:10

So you got H plus whatever's happening to you.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Gotcha. Like to talk to Pauline about.

SPEAKER_04 46:22

We're gonna have a good. We better order some fucking fish and chips.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Should let everyone know. If you know Paulaine, tell her.

SPEAKER_04 46:30

If you know Pauline, get in and give me a fucking call. We'll have some fish and chips at the fucking local shop here in Gympie and have a chat.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

All right.

SPEAKER_04 46:44

And I you know what I think would be a great idea.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

What's that?

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Someone like myself or whoever sitting down with Pauline or whoever chatting about stuff like this and it being filmed live. So every day straight.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

So basically what we're doing here is just that Pauline in the room.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Yeah. Anyone's got Pauline's phone number out there? Let's make that happen. Yeah. Uh we're gonna move on to uh Steady's move uh movie review of Megan 2.0. How was it? Good. Okay. Alright. Is that is that the review done? Nothing else to say about Megan 2. How was Megan 1.0? It was good.

SPEAKER_04 47:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Alright. You don't have to give a David and Margaret answer.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

Anything anything to do anything to do with AI running around.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

I kind of You're intrigued. Yeah. Yeah, and and this is like you gotta think this AI is in the body of like uh the first one, I think a twelve-year-old girl on the border of puberty, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:13

That's in the first, is it? Yeah, yeah, okay. So So the the AI gross. No, no, okay.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

Because who who invented it was doing it as a companion for their daughter.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Okay. Okay, okay. Right?

SPEAKER_04 48:31

And saying you need to protect.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

And blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Well, you tell a twelve-year-old to protect, and they do anything to protect, and that was the flaw.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

Okay, right.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

They would do anything, right, including kill.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Okay, okay. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:51

They will kill everyone else but protect them.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. On that point, if the world goes to shit in a hand basket, does AI say enough with the humans? Because of those the way it's been built. And the ones and zeros, the data behind us like, okay, we need this planet around. But we won't. No. Why not? We won't need her.

SPEAKER_04 49:19

We won't be here.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

We're gonna be in Mars, are we?

SPEAKER_04 49:22

We'll either be on the moon.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

That'll be the moon colony will be the first colony.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 49:30

Before Mars.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

You reckon?

SPEAKER_04 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

So you get all the bugs work out of the system.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:38

And then Mars.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

Get the firmware updates happening.

SPEAKER_04 49:40

And then there'll be some other uh planet somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Yep. Do you think it's a possibility though that AO can say the humans are doing a terrible job? We're taking over.

SPEAKER_04 49:54

I think there's a percentage of them will.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:59

But I also think there'll be a percentage of human beings that are hybrids.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Hybrids? Yeah. So they're they're botish, but uh they're they're robots, but half human, half bot.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I think you could be onto someone.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

I always I always thought Imagine, imagine your cerebral palsy, fuck his infirm update.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:25

And then suddenly you're fucking walking and talking.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

I've done that movie. It's called Robocop, innit?

SPEAKER_04 50:33

Nah. I'm talking about full on man. I reckon it's there. Yeah. They've already experimented with it slightly.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:45

Um, but I reckon they will. Yeah, it's uh they'll cure a lot of things that fucking uh update.

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Yeah. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 50:57

The brains uh the brain's basically uh a computer.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

So if you can crack the code, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Why not? You can fix it.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Yep. Would you put yourself up uh for testing? If something like came along? No, fuck no. I'd be intrigued.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

I'm 100% spazy Love it, love it.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

All right, we've got a question from the punters at home. Um, we've we've we've covered a lot of deep topics today, but uh this is this is nice fluff light end to the uh the session. How do you like your coffee?

SPEAKER_04 51:46

Uh depends.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Does it no?

SPEAKER_04 51:49

It really depends what kind of coffee I'm drinking. Okay. If I'm drinking plunge coffee, yeah, then I'll drink that very strong with probably about three or four sugars.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 52:05

Ice cream.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

What the hell? I thought it stopped at the three sugars, but no, there's ice cream on top of that.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Ice cream.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Yep. So a strong plunge.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

Yeah, and probably, you know, in the litre cup.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Jesus. It's like you're out doing mothers and bloody, you know, those monsters with that. That's a that's a lot of uh caffeine. Fucking haven't yeah, a lot of sugar. Yeah. How uh so that's one way.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

So And the other way is just satchels of coffee. Okay, you know, like hazelnut or caramelade or cappuccino.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

So it's depending on the day.

SPEAKER_04 52:45

It just depends on where I'm going as well.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

Okay, right.

SPEAKER_04 52:49

Like I'll take a few satchels with me if I know there's hot water there. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

Right. So it depends on where you're going, what's going on. On tour, when you're on tour coming up, are you taking the satchels with you or are you taking the satchel?

SPEAKER_04 53:03

Oh yeah, I do I take fucking I I take satchels with me, and I take I take like people have got a go bag of clothes.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 53:17

If I'm traveling in the car, not when I'm flying, but if I'm travelling in the car, I have a go bag of food.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

Yeah, right. Okay. Always. Just keep keep you topped up.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

I know then that I can eat.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

So what's the new go bag?

SPEAKER_04 53:38

I like 90 seconds rice.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yeah, okay. Um Uncle Ben's, is it? Whatever is it? Something Ben's.

SPEAKER_04 53:47

Whatever out he has.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

90 second stuff, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:50

And and um herring.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

Yeah, cans of herring.

unknown 53:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:55

Um, mussels.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

Okay. Some good stuff.

SPEAKER_04 53:59

Um, and I'll chuck in some two minute noodles. Okay. And grated cheese.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Okay, all right. That sounds pretty a good go bag. And eggs depending. So when you're on the road, are you driving? Are you planning? What's when you're traveling between gigs? What's the usual mode of transport?

SPEAKER_04 54:22

Depends, man, on the tour.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

Okay, alright. And you've always got the go bag no matter what.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

No, if I'm flying, I won't take it because it's a teammates fucking hassle.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:34

And airports. I have enough asses with those fuckings anyway.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

I just asked the punters at home. What are they what's their in their go bag?

SPEAKER_04 54:44

What's in your go bag? For when you're traveling.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

All right, mate. Well, mate, that's all I've got on the list. Anything else you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_04 54:55

No, that's about it. We've covered fucking lot today.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

That's a lot, yeah. I'm almost ready for a kip.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

I've still got I've still got a doctor and a fucking nurse coming around. So my day's not over yet.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

It's just starting.

SPEAKER_04 55:14

Uh mate, I look, I I have a dream.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

Yeah, what's your dream?

SPEAKER_04 55:20

To fucking sleep eight hours at night again.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

It's a good dream.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

I haven't I haven't slept eight hours continuously for close to three months.

SPEAKER_02 55:34

So what gets you up? You gotta take a piss?

SPEAKER_04 55:36

No, it's the foot, mate.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

It's the foot, okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:39

The foot's been gone for nearly three months.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 55:42

From the very start to where it is now.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:47

And it still looks shit now, but compared to two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

Yeah, it's better.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

It's ten times better.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right, so get your foot sorted. Get on tour with your gay bag and get out there and uh make some people laugh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking amazing, isn't it? Like before the gay bag was basically pissing cocaine.

SPEAKER_02 56:22

That was in the 90s. That was your go bag. That's probably why it was called the go bag. The go the goeie bag. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

And now it's actually fucking food.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Who would have thought? That's amazing how your your taste change over the years, you know?

SPEAKER_04 56:40

Oh mate, I you know, I remember uh a very basic go bag for food is when I'm flying, I'll go I'll go to uh a um Audi or something like that, and I'll just get a loaf of bread, a good loaf of bread and peanut butter and honey.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

Right. That's your gets you keeps you going.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

Keeps you going, you can have taste of sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Yeah. So what was in your go bag in the nineties? Alcohol and drugs. That was it, right? Basically. There wasn't a can of tuna in there.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

Nah, fuck that. No. No, that would make you spew. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:30

Don't want that.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Yeah. So you were well fed in the 90s by but it was alcohol and drugs. Yeah. Kept you going.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Man, it's amazing I didn't turn turn out like a fucking heifer.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

You're right.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

No, seriously, because there was periods of nine months or so that we would be on the road for like eight, nine months, and all we'd be eating is and and this is takeaway. This food isn't bad. Yeah. But when you're eating it like we were, like spring rolls and dim sin.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Oh, so just deep fried stuff.

SPEAKER_04 58:13

And all the time. Yeah. Just go fucking.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

So was that that was a daily staple? Yeah. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Well spring rolls.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

Well, yeah. You'd be on a six-hour trip to the next gig.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:30

And you had a survey.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Oh, okay. Survey food. Yeah, okay. Sausage rolls, pies. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:37

I got back and my mate is it was the masseuse. Yeah. And he's looked at me and he goes, Fucking howdy. What have you been eating and doing?

SPEAKER_02 58:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:53

Just look like shit.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Food's got a lot to do with it. How you look? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Did you see a ma a male masseuse? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Right, I can't do male masseuses.

unknown 59:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

I know the touch of a female.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

No, he's the he's the only one that at the time had the strength.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 59:14

Get the knots out that you need to get them out. Right. Shoyatsu. Yeah. So what you sort of get oil and go over your skin. Yep. And every little red blotch was a knot.

SPEAKER_02 59:32

And he'd get his thumbs in. Yeah. Yeah, work it out.

SPEAKER_04 59:35

And just flat plus spasm.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:39

Um, I know there's some pretty strong girls out there.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Yeah, yeah. But see, I've I've never had that problem, but I've had a few guys work on my inner thigh, and it's like, this is just weird. You know, I just didn't, you know, it's it's there's you can feel the energy in the room. It's like, nah, it's just, you know, it's not that bad an injury.

SPEAKER_04 59:58

I know I never thought that way.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I just prefer the touch of a woman. Simple as that. There's a more of a tenderness.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:07

Oh, I could fucking touch is a touch for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

No, it's not touch is everything. Touch is huge. It's a it's a swapping of electricity and uh in your in your book, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, disagreeing again.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:23

To me, it's it's like I don't want to fuck, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

Well, you but yours is different. So if it's about getting knots out, it's like just get the fucking knot out. Let's move on. Yeah, that's a different type of touch. So yeah. You want it over with as quickly as possible. You want to be like, okay, yeah, yeah. I can that's freed up my shoulder. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. That's what we'll come back for the next podcast. We'll start on massage.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:49

Massage is the touch, the touch by the touch.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

All right, we out of these.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:56

Thanks for tuning in. See you later. Love you guys. Keep on laughing.