AYP Episode 20, Buffalo Bills Draft Grades, NFL Draft Winners, Buffalo Sabres Reactions

Argue Your Point Episode 20 is loaded with Buffalo sports talk as Jeff and Mason are joined by special guest Luke Adams to break down the 2026 NFL Draft and react to the latest Buffalo Sabres playoff action.

The episode opens with Sabres game reactions and NHL playoff energy before shifting to Knicks stats and early NBA playoff storylines. The main focus turns to the NFL Draft, highlighting major slides, surprising picks, and early reactions from around the league.

The guys dive deep into Buffalo Bills draft grades, evaluating every pick from TJ Parker and Davison Igbinosun to late-round value selections, discussing impact, fit, and whether the Bills improved enough to compete at a higher level this season.

They also debate which teams won the draft, which teams missed, and whether the New York Jets actually closed the gap in the AFC East. The segment wraps with rapid-fire questions on draft steals, rookie impact players, and long-term team outlooks.

If you’re a Buffalo Bills or Buffalo Sabres fan looking for sharp takes, fast-paced debate, and real reactions to the biggest sports stories, this episode delivers.

Transcript

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Welcome to the Argue Your Point Podcast. Here are your hosts, Jeff D. Mason B. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Episode 20.

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It's a big um big episode for us.

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Yeah, we're everywhere. But the new the new one is YouTube. Can't see our faces yet, but it's a podcast, so you can listen to us. That's what podcasts are for. But you know, eventually we'll it'll probably show my face.

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No rundown here start off with Sabres game, stats and reactions, next stats, Nicks blew out of the Hawks, NFO draft slideslash premature picks, build NFO draft grade for me. Who had the best NFO draft? NHL playoffs, an NBA playoffs, and a little game in there.

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Awesome. You know, I bet I bet listeners really like having a rundown. Because if they just want to go right to, you know, NBA, they can they can fast forward. They know that it's the last segment.

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No, we could do on YouTube. What? We could put like tag so we can like click on track here.

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But um Yeah, we can do that though.

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Here's our essential question.

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Essential question of the day.

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Should the NFL adopt a draft lottery instead of just one through 32?

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Well, I guess to do that.

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Oh, whoa, whoa. We gotta we gotta first look at all the look at why it manners here. Now the current league system is a problem. Teams tank. That's the big problem. The draft lottery, yes, they're gonna still try to try to lose, but it's not a guarantee. You know? Like Dallas, they had like the worst chances one year, and then they got the number one overall pick. Got Cooper Flag.

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Yeah.

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Should I be pretty good? He won offensive, he won not off the year, he won rookie of the year.

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Well, Dallas won that. They won that lottery.

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Yeah, that's something.

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Yeah.

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But uh problem is here, you know, you could be like a legitimately bad team, have like a really um really bad pick, you know? You could be bad for you could be like Jet, they can be bad for 10 years and get a horrible pick.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

You could be the worst team that like like if you didn't win the lottery, like in the Dallas situation and um the Islanders in hockey a couple years ago, the worst team in the league did not get the first pick. Yeah, I mean that happens, but that's you know, like you said, that's what's supposed to um prevent tanking, because it doesn't give you that guarantee, you know. There's a better chance, but not a guarantee.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Okay, um so it would it would prevent tanking a little bit, but you know that stuff, but do you think the league has a good job of maintaining you know teams like if you need to get in the playoffs, you know, a team they're facing the best team in the league versus the team with tanking. That could be a problem. In what league are we talking about here? NFL. We're still talking about NFL. That's all we've been talking about.

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Okay. Um do you think the league has a problem with that? Not not really.

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I think it does. The Raiders, they remember the last last week of season they uh put Max Crosby in IR for no reason. He was perfectly healthy.

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Okay. But uh, yeah, I mean, that's not necessarily tanking. It's like, well, we're not in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

No, it's tanking. They were taking like they like the Jets, they had a good quarterback on their practice squad, and they just didn't yeah, like a young player.

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But with the Max Crosby thing, it's not necessarily I mean, so the so the other perspective of it, the other point is, you know, like they're not in the playoffs, so why risk an injury with your starred player? We're already thinking about next season. That's not necessarily, you know, I want the number one overall pick, which they did end up getting. Um, I don't know if it was sealed up at that point or not. It was, yeah. Yeah, okay. So then that that goes to the point that maybe it wasn't um it wasn't uh tanking.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Yeah. So I actually don't I mean I agree with it, but I still think they should put a sort of tank roll in there. Tank anything to stop tanking. Okay, you wanna move over on to the savers game?

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Move on. Do you are you gonna hit the transition button when we move from one section to another?

unknown 4:30

Shh.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

I can do that. There we go. Next section. You can you can play a little background music too if you want to put it on put on a loop. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Yeah, uh, I don't see your okay. Sabres game reactions.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Oh, okay. Yeah, I got you, Mason.

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The only goals here were Dallen. Dallen had uh the one goal he had 29 minutes time on ice.

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So let's let's lay it out first. You know, we're talking about game five that was in Buffalo. We had a 3-1 series league lead, and we were looking to close it out, and um didn't happen that way. We lost 2-1 in overtime. So obviously our goaltender played really well. It was the first, I believe, and I don't I don't have this all the stats looking in front of me. I believe it was the first time we didn't win the shot total. Well, I mean I mean in the in the whole series. I have the stats for this.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Yeah, we had 26 shots, Boston, 29.

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Yeah, and we and you know, that's only like a um a few shots difference there, like three shots, but we kind of closed that gap towards the end of the game. It was pretty wide for most of the game. Um real intense game. It was it was a lot of up tempo, which which is plays to the saber's strength. And um, but you know, just we weren't getting a ton of quality chances on Swayman. To to score in him, you gotta get him to move side to side and um get him scrambling laterally. That's how you score on him. I don't think we did enough of that. You know, he just if if you if you s if you square to the shooter, he's gonna make the save almost every time. And um, yeah, and then just passed and I just ended up getting a stretch pass wide open to to win it for Boston in over time. Uh you know, it's not uh not the script that uh Buffalo fans were hoping for, but we've got game six Friday night in Boston, and um Yeah, we'll be ready to go. Let's go. You know, it's it's 3-2. We don't we don't want to go to game seven. Um and uh let's finish it in Boston and go on to the round two.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Okay, yeah. Um look at the uh three penalties, both teams. Sabres had um 16 block shots, Boston 23. They equal amount of giveaways, power play percentage. Boston's oh for three, I think, actually. But um I think it was uh I think it was a decent game. Low scoring wasn't like the six to one game, but I thought it was still a decent game.

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So uh Yeah, no, it was. It was up tempo, it was exciting. Um it was everything you kind of wanted it to be, except for the one goal. It was like, man, it was one-one for so long. It's like let's just let's just break this open, you know, let's just get on a roll and get the crowd, you know, just screaming. But um yeah, it went into overtime and then uh Kozak had seven hits. Yeah.

unknown 7:39

Yeah.

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It's it's been a pretty exciting series. It's been um it's lived up to the hype, I would say. Um I'm enjoying it, you know, the wins and losses. So um yeah, I'm just looking forward to game six in Boston and Buffalo playing their brand of hockey. They've already won twice there. And um, yeah, I I know they could take it up on another level. I know they can do that. Um and uh and and I I think they will in game in game six and bought in Boston on Friday night.

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Yeah. Okay, now we're gonna go over to that.

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Let's go!

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Now we're gonna go over to Nick's stats. Now, uh Nick's defeated the Hawks, 128.96, if I remember. And a great game for everybody, but I also want to talk about one guy in particular. One person. Let's we know. Take it back. Four people in particular. I'll talk about Miles McBride, Jordan Clarkson, Mitchell Robinson, Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson has 35 points. No, not 35 points.

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39.

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39 points in the last game, yeah. Crazy game. But I wasn't now the three guys, Miles McBride, Jordan Clarkson, Mitchell Robinson, Jordan Clarkson had 16 points, Miles McBride had 20 points. Those are all guys off the bench.

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McBride in the last game. Oh, I'm looking at minutes.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

I keep looking at minutes. Oh, okay. Who's the Alvarado had 12 minutes had 12 points? Jordan McDonald's.

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So the points breakdown, because I got in front of me, is uh Brunson had 39, Inanobi 17, Kat 16, Hart 9, who he's been elevated, he's not on the bench anymore, and bridges 7. But then you got 12 from Elvarado off the bench. 10 from Sokan. Yep, off the bench. Clarkson. Yeah, so there's uh uh Robinson, and that rounds off the point producers for the Knicks.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

I think that we're gonna use that. I'm gonna think we're gonna have a trade. I I think I want the next dream McCow Bridges. Averaging 14 points.

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We're in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

After the season, I'm talking about after the season. What if we win the championship? I don't care, we're still training. Okay, yeah, averaging 14 points for a guy who traded three first round picks for. He had seven points. One game he had no points at all. Yeah, like 20 minutes. He played him and I like his I like his attitude. Right now he's doing nothing.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Well, no, he's not. He got seven points. That's uh one rebound, one assist. That's not great. Stats he's no Brunson.

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Do you think that you would trade three first round picks for him?

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Well, I you know two seconds. I'd have to have a better understanding of the draft.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

But you still trade. Well, there's only first and second, there's only two rounds.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

So Yeah, but but okay. But the the fall off is is what I'm getting at. The drop-off. So the drop-off in the NFL isn't like force isn't it isn't so steep. Um in the NHL, it's very steep. Like a late first round. NBA, you mean? No, NHL. It's very steep. After the first few picks, it's just like you know, like everyone's a second rounder. Um and um in the NBA, I think might be I'm not sure. I I don't know enough about the NBA draft and and how um steep it goes. We can ask uh our special guest that's coming out later, Luke Luke Adam. He's coming out later, and um he knows a thing about NBA and and ball, and uh we can ask him a few questions about that.

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I get the control today, so I get to producing. Okay, uh I think the Knicks, what they gotta stick to the game plan is they gotta control a tempo, just like Sabres. They're not gonna win the game by going slow. Okay, they're a fast-paced team. Kat's playing the best he's as been. He had 16 points and he had a t 14 rebounds. Second most rebounds on Giannis, someone else.

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That is a lot.

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But I think the Knicks need to either drop it.

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14 rebounds? Remember, didn't I I placed that bet on him?

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He placed like four assists.

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To get four assists. And he got six assists in this game. He did play really well. He played out of his mind.

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Okay, now we're gonna move over to NFL draft slides. Premature picks. Number oh, oh no. Kayla Banks went number eighteen to the Vikings, ranked 34th. In his time 22-25, he had this total, he had six and a half sacks and you only had two fourth fumbles in f in about I'd say three years, because twenty twenty-five he was injured. I had that little note. But I in his best season, which is twenty twenty-four, four and a half sacks, one fourth fumble, ten solo, eleven assists. My question is I think he was a I don't think he was the greatest guy. I think there'd probably some better guys they could have picked. Like still available at 18, Makai Lemon. I mean they don't need wide receiver, but you know, there's also a lot better guys.

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You could have took someone like Was um Was he physically at the draft? Do you know?

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Who?

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Um Caleb Banks?

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Yeah. Uh I don't think so. I don't think he was expected to be there.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Yeah, no, it's because he wasn't expected to be there. So or to go in the first. Again. That's gotta be my point is um if he had an inkling he'd be selecting the first, and he might have to be.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

We're gonna talk about Diego Pavia soon. There's some big news about him off the rip, but what do you think? Do you think this is a good pick for the Vikings? You think it was this a really weird pick for the new G for their new GM?

SPEAKER_02 13:46

I think it's um so you're you're talking about um talking about Caleb. Caleb Banks. Hold on a second.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

That's not what I meant.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

Well, hold on. So with Caleb Banks, who went 18 to the Vikings, he was originally ranked 34. You're the um expert on the draft, I would say, between the two of the two of us. Um what do you think? You think there was um a good good pick there, good value, or um you know, took him uh took him too early?

SPEAKER_00 14:25

I think he took him way too early. I don't think he was near I mean, there were some great guys still on the board. Uh I'm just trying to think out of my head. Uh there's still uh offensive tackle, good off tackle available. There were like seven tackles taken the entire NFL draft. But I actually think, I mean, he's a good player. I don't think he's uh worth pick pick number 18. Like even if you don't like like him, you could have just traded back. He's most likely gonna be there.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

But I also take a look. Let's go on to the next one. We've got let me see what time is it. But I've got about two minutes before um Luke is gonna jump on here.

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Also, Dylan Seenman, who's still available, is gonna be a great stud safety.

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All right, let me ask you this, Mason Gerard McCoy. Um, he was ranked actually in the top ten in a lot of mock drafts. Um yeah, and he ended up going 101. What um what went on there?

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What what do you think uh No, he did I mean uh he did have that knee injury and okay but you can't say that uh when you have when you're ranked number six, I thought he was gonna be he's still a stud. He was a stud player um for the uh Tennessee flood. I mean he had four interceptions in 2024. That's a lot.

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Yeah.

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He had um no he had uh 26 solo, seven pass deflected, eighteen assistant tackles, 44 total. I think he was just a stud. I because he had the injuries probably tanked his draft shock, but I didn't think he was gonna be a fourth rounder. I thought he could be like a third or second.

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Okay.

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I still thought he was gonna be hopefully I thought the Bills were gonna take him, but yeah, the Raiders traded for him.

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Yeah, we should check him. We could have with that. We had that pick right there.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Uh so I think it was uh I think it was a bad slide by him. But I think it was a good pick for the Raiders. Gas deal.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

All right. Sounds good. Okay, um how about Ruben Bain? He was ranked ninth again, another guy that was in the top ten. And he slid a little bit, not like uh Gerard McCoy, but he slid to 15 to the Bucks.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

So um I honestly think uh I think that he was a he's a great player. Uh he probably c got slipped because of that car crash he was linked to.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Or maybe because he maybe because isn't he isn't he the guy with the small hands? Remember, I think he is. But I mean nine and a half sacks, one fourth fumble, fifteen and a half tackle for loss. I mean, some great great.

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Okay, we've got Luke and what's up, Luke? Wait, hold on one second. How's it going? Can you talk? Uh it's not it's not going through, Mason. Hold on. All right, Luke. How is it going, man?

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Yeah. Not too bad. How are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Pretty good here.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

Yeah, we're doing great. Uh thanks for coming on. We um Yeah, you know, we we've uh you know, we work together, and um I know you've got a really good knowledge of of sports in general, and uh I've talked to you a few times about the draft and kind of um bringing you on a little bit as a a draft uh as a as a draft expert. Would you uh is that is it a good characterization of you?

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Uh I wouldn't call myself a Mel Piper or anything. I think the draft is is uh is a perfect time for all the armchair quarterbacks and professional scouts to come back because realistically, all these draft picks, you don't really know if they're gonna turn out for you know realistically two to three years. Like, how many people, how many videos have you seen of Bills fans being upset about the Josh Allen thing? Or Chiefs fans upset about Mahomes or something, you know, and look how those things turned out. So I don't consider myself an expert just because every time I make a prediction, I'm using it wrong.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

So yeah, so I so we'll um I'll kind of break this up into three different ways. You're because you're a Jets fan. So I want to talk a little bit about um the Jets, talk a little about the Buffalo Bills, and then um the whole draft in general. So a lot of experts have picked the the Jets, giving them an A. Um, do you think do you uh whoa.

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We got the uh we got one more projection here, Ty Thempton.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

No, wait, what? Yeah, no, no, no, no, hold on. Don't don't do that. So so with the the jet with the Jets, um do you do you think the Jets won the draft by default or um you know they're just the have the benefit of having so much draft capital?

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I really like that question because I think any team who gets three first round picks is immediately you know going to be considered a winner of the draft because nobody drafted in the first round is deemed, you know, everybody is like, oh, this guy's gonna be great and everything. So I think anytime you have that many draft picks, you know, premium picks within the first two rounds, you're just by default usually going to win the draft. Um and the last time you know the Jets did this, they drafted uh Garrett Wilson, Sauce Gardner, and Jermaine Johnson, who was a pretty solid uh defensive end. Um I would say, yeah, they won that draft, but two of those guys aren't on the team anymore because the Jets couldn't figure it out elsewhere. So um but that being said, I do it what the Jets draft didn't go how I figured it would go, but I am happy with the results nonetheless.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Alright. But um another question here about the Bills. Um, you think the Bills drafted like can you go for Super Bowl? Or just trying to get added on depth?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Uh Beam is he drafts very strange, I'll say that much. Um I would say, you know, I think the edge launcher they took has he has the ability to be an immediate impact. I think everybody passed that, you know, there's question marks about it, but obviously they have their scouts doing their thing and everything. Um to me, you know, walking away from it. It was such an odd draft with all the trades and everything. It almost felt like it was more depth pieces. Um I didn't pay too much attention to like what the trades were. Did they pick up any 2027 picks?

SPEAKER_00 21:22

I think they did, yeah. I think they pick up like a fifth.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

But um, I'm curious if like, you know, some teams are punting to the 2027 draft, like and there's more talent there, you know. So um, you know, there's strategy to everything, but to me on paper, it just it seems like there were a lot more depth moves and you know, rotational players than you know, true bona fide starters.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

So w sticking with the bills, do you think they addressed what they actually needed?

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Um I would say so because it seems like they, you know. Immediately leans defensively. And the other reason I say that, you know, you could have gone with a lineman there in arguably, I think a lot of Bills fans really wanted a receiver, which I thought I think would have been great, you know, but I think you know the DJ Moore trade might have might have changed things around there a little bit. And I think personally DJ Moore is going to be a stud for them, and that'll open up things for Kincaid and Shakir and everything. So maybe they, you know, didn't feel wide receiver was a need. I do think that, you know, especially towards the end of the season, the Bills defense were they were giving up a lot of points. So I do think, you know, I think they went the right direction as far as you know what side of the ball they were picking.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Okay. Um you think there was a pick the Bills got that you didn't like?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Um, you know what? I mean, past, and this is what I mean about armchair quarterbacks, I don't pay too much attention to college ball until the NFL season's over, and then I start watching highlights. So really, when it starts to bleed out of the third round, there are there's just names I don't understand. Um but you know, to answer your question, maybe not the way you wanted it, I do think it's I always find it hilarious when a punter is taken. Um so you know, that one's funny, but that is such an important position to Am I wrong? Did they they drafted a punter, didn't they? Yeah, the seventh round.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Yeah, yeah, that you know, a lot of like a lot of people are saying that this is kind of like for the Bills, like a backwards draft where the first few picks may be more depth, and then few of the later round picks might actually have a better chance of starting. Um just because of the position.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Right, right. And I mean a punter is important, man. Field position is great and everything, and you usually do see, you know, if there's a stud kicker or punter, they usually are taken later in the draft. So it's just I don't know, to me, it's always funny seeing a kicker or somebody get drafted, and you know, some of them are drafted really high. So it's just kind of fun.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yeah, but uh actually, before we go talk about Bill just signed a fullback, Ben Van Thumerin.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Oh, what just know you think they use him?

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Probably.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, it's just if the fullback is like such a dying position. Do you think they'll actually use him as a traditional fullback? Or I would love to see the fullback come back, dude. Seeing a Mike Allstott running down the hall, you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Yeah, yeah, I think that I think they're gonna use him because with um they had Reggie Gilliam, and he was a huge part of the touch plush and everything, but you got a guy from the Eagles. So that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you know, somebody needs to give uh Kyle Houstrak a a run for his money. That guy's got like eight eight straight all pros. So it's just by default, he's the only fullback left, it seems.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

All right. Um, so we'll move away from the Bills for a minute and touch on the the Jets, um, who had three first-round picks. Um and so from from your perspective, you know, what did they do well?

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Um, so like I said, it was it was the draft didn't go how I planned. I I thought they'd take Arvel Reese there at number two, and then I honestly thought they'd go receiver um second. Then obviously, you know, they traded back into the first. Um what I think they did well, first of all, I think David Bailey, I think he's gonna be a stud, you know, but the Jets have drafted a lot of busts in the past, so I don't want I don't even want to jinx it. Um from the draft itself, I think they're you know, finding their identity, they're making their identity clear, I think, on offense. You know, they have a very young, strong core offensive line, but when you take Omar Cooper Jr. and especially Kenyan Sadiq, like that came way out of left field to me. You can tell that they are trying to build this offense uh based off speed. So now you have five players that are sub-4-four guys. You know, you got you know, Adonai Mitchell and Garrett Wilson, and then you have Brees Hall and all these guys that they drafted that are sub-4-4. Um I think, I think they are they're finding their identity um that way. And then, you know, taking a guy like David Bailey, first overall, or second overall, whatever you want to say, um, that's also, you know, hoping a guy like that sticks to, you know, find your future because the Jets traded away all of their defensive studs. Um, you know, you got rid of Sauce, you got rid of Quinn Williams, Quincy Williams is gone, Jermaine Johnson is gone. So, you know, it it's it's clear to see the identity they have on offense, but you can see what they're trying to build on defense too, um, which is just you know, angry downhill runners, it seems. Um, in the quarterback, the cornerback they took Pons in the second. He's he's a feisty, scrappy guy. Um, which funny enough, his his pro uh comp was Aaron Glen, of all people. So that is funny. Oh, yeah, so something to do with it. But but uh but yeah, I mean, um very excited about it, and I think they're they're finding their identity.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

Yeah, I mean, I mean, with all those guys that you just mentioned leaving, um, those are core players, and then taking on these new guys.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

They're all our defense, too.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Yeah, completely new identity. Um, but why'd you say like the tight end Sadiq and Omar Cooper where it was out of left field? You didn't expect them to go offense like that so early.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Not so much. So what I thought, I thought they'd go receiver with that second pick they had at 16. Um, I thought for sure, you know, they were gonna take uh, you know, Mikhaye Lemon or somebody there. Tight end wasn't even on my radar um just because they drafted Mason Taylor last year in the second round. Um, so I was I didn't even think that was somebody they'd be looking at, you know. And then when they traded, so so that being said, I did expect them to take a receiver, so when they traded back into the first, um, you know, I was excited about that. I like Omar Cooper Jr. Um and that's you know, Jordan Tyson and Carnell Tate, I think it was kind of, you know, any of these guys would be good between Denzel, Boston, and Makai Lemon and Concepcion and all those guys. So I really liked the move. I I that's kind of what I was expecting um with the receiver thing. So I'm glad that happened.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Yeah, but uh thing about Sajik is he's like a huge, he's not like huge, but he runs 440 for a he's like he's like a wide receiver tight end. He's a great athlete.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah. Oh yeah. Absolutely, and I'm thinking you pair that up with Mason Taylor now, you know, you you got a kind of a beefier tight end, you got you know fast tight end, and that's kind of what I'm saying with the the speed that they're trying to to make. They're just you know getting it at every position, it seems now.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Yeah, but um the Jets also got quarterback, okay. Klube mix. Yeah, maybe they could have him turning over Geno.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Yeah, we'll see. So you never know in New York. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Who's you uh from the Jets picks? Who's your favorite or the or the pick you're most excited about?

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Um that's a great question. I love I love defense. Um, so David Bailey, obviously, but I think a guy like D'Angelo Pons uh from Indiana, I think, you know, as a cornerback, he was overlooked because of his size because he he's a smaller dude. But when you watch his highlights, he plays so much bigger. And when he's running downhill, he is going to pop, you know. So uh leaving, and I'm not saying he's gonna be, yeah, he's 5'8, 182, but yeah, so it's it's you know the exact opposite of Sauce Gardner. I thought it, you know, it was a necessary move because you know they kind of just have rotating corners right now. I don't know if he's gonna be the true number one, but I think his score is decently high, is a very good slot corner or something along those lines. So I was really excited about that. Um Kate Klubnick, I think you know, I'm a firm believer, especially as a Jets fan, if they draft a quarterback every year, I don't care what round it is, uh, just until somebody sits. Um so I thought it was surprising they traded, you know, a couple picks to move up to get them. But I think uh, you know, people forget that guys like Klubnick and Aller and Nussmeyer were your you know projected first round picks and then that quickly changed and they fell. So I like the potential there as well.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

Yeah, okay. But there are also a lot of other guys could take it. Um they had um I forgot the Miami quarterback's name.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

Oh yeah. Oh, um the guy who uh who played for uh Georgia last year, the year before.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

No. Well, yeah, uh Carson Beck.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Yeah, Carson Beck. Carson Beck, that's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

I thought he I thought they were gonna.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Was he drafted?

SPEAKER_00 31:15

Yeah, he drafted to the Cardinals. I thought that that was gonna be Jet's pick, or maybe even uh Ty Simpson if they would have traded up.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Yeah, I'm I'm shocked that Ty Simpson went as high as he did. Um yeah, that was I thought he'd fall to the second, you know. I thought 13th was a little rich. I think they could have traded back and probably still got him. Uh but I think as far as the situation he he's in, I think it was perfect because I don't think he was polished enough to come out and start right away. And who's better to sit behind than Matt Stafford?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

You know, so yeah, I mean, but there is some pressure when you're the 13th overall pick. A lot of you know, people suggest you know that was kind of an owner's pick.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Yeah, yeah, I'd agree.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Okay, um, you think the all the Jets fans are overreacting, having three first round picks in the entire class?

SPEAKER_01 32:13

Overreacting to the draft, you mean I think I think we overreact a lot. So uh yeah, I would say we're probably overreacting a little bit, but again, only time will tell. Uh, you never know if these guys are gonna be on the roster past you know their rookie contract if they even make it that far. Um so I mean there's there's always a bit of overreacting.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Yeah, of course. I mean, when the they're um you know, the Sabres are in the playoffs now and they snap that 14-year um playoff drought, and that's what the Jets are in. Um so it you know, you know, from a Sabres fan, we know the we know the feeling that you know it's just a lot, everything's all based on hope, you know what I mean? You just can work out.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

And how amazing would it be if the Sabres and the Jets broke their drought, you know, within the same year. That would be a dream come true for me. Both these droughts just ended, you know. I'm so excited, I can watch some playoff email.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Yeah, yeah. Um okay, so um league-wide, who do you think uh won this draft? I could tell you um you know, a couple that Mel Kuiper thinks have has won the draft. What do you think? Dallas. I think Dallas? Why is that?

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Uh uh so I tried the wrong year. 26. So a number 11, they got maybe the best player in the draft, Caleb Downs. They snagged him, and then they also got Malachi Lawrence at 23. I think that was a great draft class. They draft two guys. Great.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

What about you guys?

SPEAKER_01 34:04

Yeah, and again, like with yeah, my knowledge past like the second, third round isn't great, so I usually kind of base it off that. Um I honestly I think um which funny enough when when Kansas City moved up. I I'm so used to Kansas City being good that I was like, man, they traded up far, but they were only ninth, so they didn't trade up too far. I thought Kansas City had a decent draft. Um, you can tell they're they're focusing on their on their defense a little bit uh more. But I honestly, you know, I think they're often overlooked, probably, you know, similarly to the Jets, because they're just you know habitually bad. Um, but I think the Browns had a really good uh had a really good draft. Okay. They grabbed that tackle, tackle from Utah, you know, and obviously it's you grabbed. And then interestingly enough, you know, they took that KC Concepcion, who I think could be really good. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right. Yeah, I think it's pretty close. Yeah, it's close enough, right? So, you know, you got a receiver there, and then I think they shopped a lot of people, and I know another guy we worked with was really open for this guy. Yeah, Steve. Steve really wanted Denzel Boston, yeah. And so when they took TJ Parker, he was a little bummed. But then Cleveland, you know, they're like, you know what, whatever, we'll uh double up on receiver. And they got Denzel Boston, who was projected as a first round pick in a ton of uh in a ton of drafts, and then at the end of the second, they took a safety. So I think they had a really, really uh solid draft, but again, that could just be you know having four premium pick uh in the first two rounds. So um, but I think you know, on paper, it's a really good draft.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Yeah, and getting two wide receivers that were you know in the conversation of first round picks, first round wide receivers, um, they get them both.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

And to make it better, they grab Justin Jefferson, a linebacker.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Yeah, yeah. That's a great name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

All right. Um just about wrapping it up here. Um what was the most shocking pick in the draft?

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Um well, so I look at mock drafts a lot, and this guy was going high no matter what. He was gonna be a top 10 pick. I don't think he was ever projected to fall out of that. But I think Jeremiah Love was drafted just crazy high.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Um, and I think Jeremiah Love is going to be an absolute stud in the NFL. But when you look at these top 10, like historically, if you look at top 10 um running backs, they're just even first round in general, they usually don't you've you've got a fifth rounder who outplays them, you know. So I just think running backs in the first round are an incredibly uh risky pick, especially for a team like Arizona who has like a ton of other holes to fill, you know, and you got James Conner, and you got a couple other running backs who could probably get you through a year. And you know, it's I I just think it's uh it's an interesting pick so early in the draft. You got guys like Leonard Fournette who never work out. Of course, there's other ones like CMAC who work out great, Todd Gurley for a little stretch. Um, but then you got guys like Say Juan who they're nasty, but they don't win a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Um, so just a really risky pick, in my opinion. I think he's gonna be great, but it's a little early for my taste.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

But I'm just gonna go like off the rip here. But what do you think about Jamon McCoy? Projected six, top ten, and then it goes 101 to the Raiders.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

Um I don't know. Did was there some like off-the-field issues or injuries or something that we just like didn't know about?

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Yeah, knee injury.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Yeah, that's probably what it was. And I think that's that happens all the time. I mean, uh, you saw and this is very understandable because he didn't play at all last year, but Jramon McCoy, you know, like he fell the one. Oh, is that who you said?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who you said.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Oh, oh, I thought you said a different name. Okay. Yeah, I was gonna say he was he would I thought maybe you just got the the you know said 103 or something. I was like, what? Um, but yeah, him dropping that that's very understandable because of the uh the crazy injury. The I don't think he even played a snap in 2025, did he?

SPEAKER_00 38:50

No, I mean I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

But uh yeah. Also there's a great Oh no, yeah, we have just 24 stats.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

There's a great running back from uh the Steeler that took seventh round, Eli Heidenrich from Navy. Looks like he might be a stud. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 39:08

From the seventh round?

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yeah, it's always cool seeing like one of those navy or army guys too get drafted. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, really rooting for him. And of course, you know, it's just it's that the blue-collar style of the Steel City, so he's he's perfect for pit.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Alright, cool. Luke, I got one final question for you, and it's kind of like a Bills Jets sort of question. Um, then you want to go through your grades? Yeah, okay. So let me uh I'm gonna ask this final question. The Maskins go through his draft grades. Um did the Bills uh the after this draft are the Bills um team to beat in the East? I mean, we didn't win the the Bills didn't win the division last year, the Patriots did. Um has has anything changed, do you think, in the like uh in the pecking order of who's gonna win the division this season after the draft?

SPEAKER_01 40:06

The whole Patriots situation, like not so much the draft, but the situation there is uh you know a variable with uh the you know the whole scandal there. Um it's hard. I mean, looking at both teams after the draft, the people that they got they picked up, and then also considering uh you know free agency and all that stuff. Um I'd say Buffalo's still the team to beat. Um just in it's hard to bet against Buffalo just because Josh Allen is there, you know. Like I I'm fully on the I think he's the greatest quarterback I've ever watched. And I know it's early to say that, but he is just he's the full package. Um I think it's hard to bet against uh Buffalo. Um the only, you know, it's just you got a rookie head coach now, um, and then you have you know a seasoned a seasoned coaching staff over in in New England. I think that's that's really and not that New England's not talented, you know. I just there's the Josh Allen actor, and I just I was shocked they lost a division last year. I don't think that happens much throughout the rest of Allen's career.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

Yeah, and and like with the no, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Sorry, uh and uh the Jets are still last place as far until they can prove prove otherwise, and that's painful to say, but it's just true.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

Right, yeah, yeah. I mean, they could have it on paper, but they gotta go out and do it. Um I've been listening to a lot of the Boston radio stations, and you know, they've been saying that you know, like, you know, the scandal that's going on with Diana Roustini, she resigned, she's out, and they're like, I think Vrabel is safe. But that's the thing. There's like new information comes out every day.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Yeah, like the patrons look for new headquarters, like they're in a search if he decided to resign.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Well, that just came out today. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So yeah, there's new developments every day. Um I don't know if he'll be the coach uh to start the season. Um he might have to take some time off. Um we and nobody really knows the answer to that, but it's um it's not looking great for that situation.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

Yeah, yeah, that's it's an interesting and it sucks because it was his first year and he took him to the Super Bowl, you know.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Um, but you know, I I don't know how teams you know deal with that situation. And obviously, if there's new developments coming out all the time, uh, you know, every day, every hour, whatever it might be.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

Yeah, who knows? Well they've got I know really they've got like a crisis team that they pay that comes in and says, you know, this is the next move we should make. Something like that.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

Yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 42:57

All right.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Um he dug his hole, so made his bed.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Yeah, and now there's a ton of memes. Just like a field day for memes. Okay, Mason. Um go go ahead, go ahead, explain uh really quick um what you're doing here.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

Okay, wait, so say some of the picks, make some reactions, make some questions, and Dr. Ross, TJ Parker, B plus. David Sid and Bigelson, C. Jude Bowery, A minus. Scarlet Bell, A plus. Caleb and Lorems R, B. Ja Jalen Kilgore, B plus. Toriano Pryde Jr., C minus, Tommy Doman, D plus. Reed Adams, A.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

You have the um grade two. I put the position in the college.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Awesome. All right. Um Well, thanks for coming on, Luke. I really do appreciate your time and um And all your knowledge and experience on this subject. Um, yeah, thanks for coming on. We'll have to do this again.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

Yeah, absolutely. It was fun. It was uh it was an honor to be invited to something for my for my football knowledge. So I really appreciate it, guys. And it was it was nice talking to you, Mason. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

All right, cool. We'll talk to you soon, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

All right, man. Have a good night, guys.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

All right, same to you.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

All right. That was Luke Adam giving us the insides per perspective. Okay. Um that was cool, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, he had some really good uh insight.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Yeah. He had a lot of knowledge. I was like wondering, like, does he have us like written down, but he just knows all the picks?

SPEAKER_02 44:48

No, he you could tell he was pulling from his brain.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

Yeah. So now we're gonna go over my uh draft grade. Any questions you have? Like anything. I mean, I remember during the draft, uh rank someone and be like, why'd you do that? And I'd say.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Yeah, why'd you give Skylar Bell an A plus?

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Uh Skylar Bell?

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

I think that he's just he's a great player when um UConn went around, like had their entire team based on them. They played great. I think that was a uh great pick there.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Okay. Um, let me see what else you got here.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

We may have to skim this a little bit because we got a lot more stuff.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Yep. What time would we get what time are we at right now?

SPEAKER_00 45:30

45.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Oh, okay. So we have maybe 10 more minutes. Yeah. Um no, I don't know. Okay. I'm gonna go to the um Armar Reed Adams. You gave him an A. Why is that?

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Well, he's what is his position?

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Inside or um Inside off of the linebacker.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Well, that was our number one need. I thought it was great to get a guy. Uh they didn't go too early. I thought it was just a great pick there for Buffalo, so all right.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Then why did you give the punter a D plus in the seventh round? He's a puncher. Just because of that? That's a need though.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

It's not it's not a huge team. They already have a puncher that gives him a puncher.

SPEAKER_02 46:09

No, I think he It's like uh something's going on with him.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Oh I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

Yeah, I think so. That's why they drafted one.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

No, he probably saw one replacement, it's one of some better. I didn't think he was uh greatest.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

Okay. Um we transition to the next uh segment.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Should we?

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Which is we might have to we might have to skip one of these segments or no, let's do the um game. So but let's just do like four questions because we're running out of time. But these other questions are all I think these questions might I think I might be I should be asking you these questions. I know. Okay. Alright, so yeah, I can if yeah, if you want to answer them quick, I'll I'll ask them quick. Only one word. Sounds good? Yeah, all right. Which team had the best overall draft class?

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Dallas.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

Dallas. Which team completely missed the mark in this draft?

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

Who was the biggest steal in the entire draft?

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Ruben Bain.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

Ruben Bain? Okay. Which first round pick had the best chance has the best chance to make an immediate impact?

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

Really? You could put that on loop if you want to. You just have to cry. Oh, it is on loop. My bad. Okay. Did any contender um get significantly better?

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Yes.

unknown 47:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Jets. Okay, the Jets. Okay, who do you think is gonna win offensive rookie of the year?

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Again, Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

Okay, what about defensive rookie of the year?

SPEAKER_00 48:00

That train might need it.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

It's gonna be great to go back in the archive and check to see if you're right.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Yeah, it'd be cool. But um I'll say for that one. I'll say Arval Reeve.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

Okay. Which quarterback landed in the worst possible situation?

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Carson Beck.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

Nice. Okay, Carson Beck, really? For Cardinals. Cardinals, you said? But why is that the worst situation?

SPEAKER_00 48:28

You ask the question.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Who did who do they have a quarterback though?

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Kobe was set.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Okay. Um okay. Which team set themselves up set set themselves up the best for the next three years?

SPEAKER_00 48:41

New York.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Jets?

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

Okay. Did the Bills do enough to compete at a high level this season? Did the Bills do enough to win the division?

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

Should the Bills have been more aggressive moving up?

SPEAKER_00 48:57

100%.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

If you could redo one pick from the first round, which one would it be?

SPEAKER_00 49:04

Davidson, oh David Igbinoson.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

You would redo that one from the Bills? Yep. Can I ask you who you would replace with that?

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Or who would I replace? So we took him at let me check. So we took him at 62. So um at that point, there's a lot of good guys available. But who I'm looking at right now? Melchi Fields. Why receiver no name? It was the rate. Melchi Fields, that's what I was gonna take. That's who I would take. That's it. 62.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

Well, we have like one more. I actually know.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

No, that's it. Alright, now we are on to and we're running.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

We don't have to go over the NBA draft. Okay. MBA.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

MBA NHL. Yeah, we already went over the Sabres. Alright, this week. You picked first, I think. This isn't correct. Rory McElroy. Yeah, either. John Rum. No, he's not. No, he's not. Yeah, yes. I Mason, I've been listening all day to PGA Tour Live Radio. Rory McElroy is definitely not in this and neither is John Rum. He plays for Live Golf. Um So I thought I had I thought I had it right here. Ayi ay. Golf. Cadillac Championship. Alright, here we go. Here's the rankings. We got Scotty. So Scotty's playing this week and Rory's not. And then next week, Rory's playing and Scotty's not. So um so much for having all the best players playing at the same time. But um yeah, Scotty is going to be have the shortest lot, shortest odds pretty much every tournament that he enters. Last week the Fitzpatrick Brothers played. They're taking much well, I mean, not Alex. He got his PG tour card. He's playing this week in this $20 million purse. Um, so uh do you want me to take the pick? Yeah, you take the pick first. All right. Who's going to win? See, this is a course they haven't played in 10 years. I don't know anything about it. Uh I I know very little about it. Um okay. Um, but you know how you know who I think is is going to come in to come through at Dorell is Russell Henley. He's my guy. Mark it down. Russell Henley will win the 2026 Cadillac Championship. Write it down.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

You guys we have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

I'm not gonna Well, I just meant that as a figure of speech.

SPEAKER_00 51:45

Well, you have a pen now.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Well, next week, if I'm right, we'll we'll play this back.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

So you go first. What's first top 25 and Myth Cut.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Okay, someone who's going to make the top 25 in, you know, he's not an obvious pick.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Well, I go next yet. Oh, okay. Snake. Or not Snake, it would be. Okay, so with my with the second, who do you pick?

SPEAKER_02 52:10

To win it, Russell Henley.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

Henley. Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pick Scotty Sheffler. I don't think he's gonna win this one.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:17

I got Morakawa.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

Morokawa. That would be a nice win for him. A lot of tears for Morakawa. That's cool. Uh for top 25, I'm going Rosy, Justin Rose. What? What are you giving me that for?

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Like that button. Okay, for top 25 for me. I'm not gonna go too far down. But I picked this guy before, I'd not gonna pick um, I got Victor Haviland.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 52:53

Like a Hav.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Alright, now um have we figured out if there's a cut in this?

SPEAKER_00 52:59

I think they're pretty it's a signature event. There is a cut.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

No, signature events, there's not there's not a cut. Is there a cut at Cadillac Championship? The answer is no.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

Yeah, we'll do uh how many players are there?

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Well, here, look at we can do um how many players are there in the thing? I don't really know. 72, I think 20 or oh yeah, it might be that let's do uh bottom 72.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

Below 70. If they're below the uh halfway, which will be 72 divided by two is there is 37.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Well let's just do top someone who you think will make top 40. How's that? Top forty?

SPEAKER_00 53:44

No, let's do top fifty.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

Okay, top fifty.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Okay, top fifty. You got that.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

That's basically like the cut. I see what you're saying, yeah. Top fifty.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Um we could do below top fifty, we could say that. That'd be a bit easier.

SPEAKER_02 53:59

Oh, top T50 or below. T50 below. Yeah. Yeah, that that makes sense. Okay. Um, it's um look at Brian Campbell. If you put money on Brian Campbell, you would get 1300 to one odds. Insane. So you uh you gonna pick him or five dollars would would win you six.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

That's in that's for in the window. Six thousand four. That's for in the window. Yeah, I know. Feels like something else.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

That would be insane. Um you know who just hasn't really you know, Joel Damon. He's gonna he's gonna be T50 or below. I I like Joel. But in this field at this signature event, um, I don't think it suits him.

SPEAKER_00 54:48

Okay, like it. Okay, I'm the doctor here, so now we're gonna go.

unknown 54:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

What's that noise? Cheering.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Just just straight up cheering.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

Yeah, so I think I'm actually gonna get someone I know a little bit, but I know mom likes his last name, so Denny McCarthy.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

Okay. Denny McCarthy. He's a really good putter. He's one of the best putters on the planet.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

Oh, let's hope he doesn't putt very good today.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Well, we don't we don't want to root against these guys, you know. All right. Till next time, follow us on YouTube, and uh we'll see you next week.