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Sports Roundtable at Honeoye Lake | AYP Episode 29
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Argue Your Point is on location in Honeoye Lake, New York for Episode 29, and this one turns into a true Mitri roundtable.
Jeff and Mason are joined by Paul Mitri Jr., Jeff’s dad and Mason’s grandpa, Greg Mitri, Jeff’s brother and Mason’s uncle, and Chris Smith, Jeff and Greg’s brother-in-law and Mason’s uncle. The crew dives into a loaded sports conversation covering the MLB salary cap debate, the Buffalo Bills, and whether Josh Allen needs a true stud wide receiver to take the offense to another level.
They also get into the Sabres, PGA Tour talk, Scottie Scheffler’s chase for history, and whether he can eventually break the PGA Tour wins record or the major championship record. Chris brings some great takes throughout the episode, including a strong breakdown on vacation locations.
It’s a family-filled, on-location episode with deep sports talk, plenty of opinions, and a classic AYP roundtable feel.
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AYP Episode 29 | Mitri Roundtable at Honeoye Lake
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SPEAKER_00Welcome to the Argue Your Point podcast. Here are your hosts, Jeff Leitri and Mason Leet.
SPEAKER_04All right, welcome to the podcast AYP, episode 29. Unlocation in Honey High, New York. Welcome to the show, our guest, Paul Mitri Jr.
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SPEAKER_04Grandpa's or uh Mason's grandpa and Mason. Say hello. Uh-huh. All right. And on standby, you'll hear from in a minute. We have Chris Smith and Greg Mitri. All right. We are here on vacation and we're doing the podcast. And uh Mason, do you want to go down the rundown?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. All right. We're going to start off with some NHL trades, trades, talks, reagency draft. Then we'll go with some MBA trade talks reagentcy draft again. Talk about World Cup here. We have headlines at the end. A fun game and PGA, like always.
SPEAKER_04Sounds good. World Cup in the round of 16. We just saw the game the other day against Bosnia. Hergosnia. I can't remember the other half of the country's name. But uh yeah, that was a good game.
SPEAKER_01Herzogovina.
SPEAKER_04Herzogovina, that's right. Part of former Yugoslavia. All right. Alright. Starless Angel. Yeah, let's do it.
SPEAKER_01Alright, Sabre's draft grade. Sabre's got B plus from ESPN. And they got five players in Angel Draft. Jackson Rudolph, uh, Elijah Morzov, Oliver Zmarinix, Doman um, say that one. I don't know how that's it.
SPEAKER_04Doman Snagloff.
SPEAKER_01Dylan Dumont.
SPEAKER_04Snagov? Last one, Dylan Dumont. He's from Cuckoo, Finland. K-O-O-K-O-O Finland.
SPEAKER_01Coco.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I guess it could be Coco.
SPEAKER_01So, um, what do you think about Dek Rudolph?
SPEAKER_04Um when he was drafted, the woman's like, oh, what a great name for Buffalo. So I'm I'm guessing she's thinking Rudolph the reindeer in snow is the connection she was making. But those those interviews can be pretty awkward when they get drafted and they have to think of something to say right away. Um she did a pretty good job about it. With that, I don't know. Dexton Rudolph is someone who I didn't know who he was until his name was read. And um apparently it wasn't the highest picked, um the highest ranked defenseman. But it was the first defenseman and first defenseman drafted, and apparently to the Sabres Scouting staff, he's either the best one or there was another one that may have been better or equal, but he was just like Dalen, and they wanted something. Um they didn't want two Dallens, you know, they want um someone who brings something else to the table, and you just gotta trust the scouts and know what they're doing. You know, they've they've watched the film, not me. Um that's kind of how it is. There's not really it's too hard to get a a read on these guys, uh, especially when they're so young and it takes so long to develop. But I don't know. Uh fourth overall pick. I mean, Benson started right away, and he was drafted, uh he was drafted later than fourth. I mean, I know that. Um, so I don't know, maybe he could play right away.
SPEAKER_01Beston was I think he was sixth.
SPEAKER_04I kind of wish they took a center, but maybe there was no none left. I just hate that every time we have a low pick, we take a defenseman.
SPEAKER_01Um thirteenth. Beston drafted 13th.
SPEAKER_0413th overall, and he and he played right away. And he just uh got a really nice extension at um what was it, six six million annual?
SPEAKER_01No. Seven year fifty-two and a half is six point two five? Yeah, so six point two five annual.
SPEAKER_04All right, what do we got next?
SPEAKER_01All right, so talk about the ducks. Um, come off trade. Owen Dellinger has signed a three year three million dollar AAV Sabres. Now, what do you think about the third fastest uh defenseman NHL right now?
SPEAKER_05Who's that?
SPEAKER_01It's Owen uh Zellweger.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I think he's pretty good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, he's supposed to be pretty good. Uh he's he he looks like a Bowen Byram replacement. Oh, right. So second pairing defenseman. Um I guess it was looking we weren't even sure if we were gonna be able to sign him. That was a question, but that got done. Um what three million a year? Yeah, and Bowen Byrum went to Black Chicago as the number one defenseman, getting paid twelve and a half. Um I mean, a lot of times teams just need to spend money. Um and he might have been recipient of that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Or maybe he You don't think he's deserving of that?
SPEAKER_04I I don't know if he could be I don't know. I mean he played his whole career, he played behind Kel Makar, which is the number one defense defensive player in the league. So he was overshadowed by that. Then he went to Buffalo, where he's kind of overshadowed by Dileen. Dileen's like the premier. Yeah, the premier uh defenseman in this town. So what he's his case is I haven't given been given the shot yet, you know? Um I don't know. He was sometimes he was uh really good. He determined then, yeah, yeah. I think so. What do you think, Mason? What do you think? How do you think Bowen Byron's gonna do in Chicago?
SPEAKER_01I think he's gonna do good. I don't think he's gonna be 12 and a half million dollars good. Yeah, but I don't think he's gonna be bad.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean that's what they gave Tuck. Would you want to pay he wouldn't the Sabres wouldn't pay Tuck? They went to like nine or almost nine million, and he got twelve and a half. Okay. Um I don't think Bowen Byrum is really at that level. It's a different position, and it's hard to compare the two, but it's the same amount of money.
SPEAKER_01So I have a bunch more, um, a lot more uh what's it called?
SPEAKER_04Topics?
SPEAKER_01Topics, yeah. And topics. I have a lot more headlines on NHL. We don't have to go through all of them, but I'll go. Altrovechkin signed a one-year, 4.25 million dollar contract.
SPEAKER_04Really? Yeah. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_05One year what how much?
SPEAKER_044.25. So he's not retiring. So so that was the last time we seen him was not the last time we saw him.
SPEAKER_05Nope. So who's he can still continue with Washington?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's a Washington for life. The owner has always said he wants him to retire a capital. You know, and at that age, again, 4.25. Right. But he did produce, he scored, I think he scored like over 25 goals last year. Yeah, he's he's very productive.
SPEAKER_01How old do you guys think he is? Let's take a guess.
SPEAKER_0442.
SPEAKER_05I'll say 44.
SPEAKER_0140.
SPEAKER_04He's 40?
SPEAKER_01Yep. Over. He's on September 17th. All right. Then Jacob Dobish had the incredible playoff run, so he re-signed his Canadians. Three year 5.36 million.
SPEAKER_04Really? Dobish three year 5.6? So they like locked, like that's our guy, that's who we're rolling with. Yep. Dobish. I don't know. Sometimes goals can get hot. They that's what he that's what happened to him. Didn't he just kind of just get hot at the end of the year? He wasn't the start of the beginning of the year, was he?
SPEAKER_01No. Playoff.
SPEAKER_04Huh. I don't know. We'll see how that works out. Hopefully it works out horribly for them.
SPEAKER_01Sabre's got a uh trio of forwards for agency. Connor Shiri, one year 850,000, and Jason, Jason Poland, one year 850,000, and Trevor Kunter. What do you think about all the forwards are again?
SPEAKER_05What's that?
SPEAKER_01What do you think about all the forwards are again?
SPEAKER_05I don't know much about them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just think about Connor Shiri?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, he was he was on the Sabres before Buffalo. Um yeah, that's definitely not an exciting sign at all. Especially for A50,000. He's just signed him last year, though? Nope, just signed him this year. Craig's trying to jump in the pod prematurely here. In front of a live studio audience.
SPEAKER_01Alright, um, should we move on? MBA?
SPEAKER_04Oh, sure. Oh, we got the transition sound.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Transition. I can't actually find it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it would be nice if we did have a speaker out loud. We could just hear it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, there it is. There we go. That's the transition.
SPEAKER_04What is that noise? Oh, that's that. All right.
SPEAKER_01Alright, you wanna uh work in MBA?
SPEAKER_04MBA, uh the Cleveland Clav Cavaliers, James Harden, declined forty-two million dollars for the 26-27 series, and the sides are working through a new multi-year deal together. So he declined. Wait, hold on. James Harden declined 42 for how many? Is that just one year? He made this guy, James Harden. Much more money. He's he's he's already made 400 million in his career, and he's uh like an underachiever. He never um never won to but he wins in the bank account. He's and he's got a really good beard, so I think that's why people you know pay him because they like his beard. Clothing line? I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Clothing line.
SPEAKER_03Beard? Huh?
SPEAKER_04I mean, I guess, Greg, if you want to ask a question, or if you want to speak in there.
SPEAKER_03Do you have a clothing line?
SPEAKER_04All right. Can you introduce yourself to the podcast?
SPEAKER_03Yes, I'm uh your brother, Greg Mitri. And Mason's uncle. All right, and the son of the uh the the special guest here.
SPEAKER_04Well, let's let's bring in Chris too. Chris.
SPEAKER_02I'm the brother-in-law.
SPEAKER_03And the uncle-in-law, if you will.
SPEAKER_04That's amazing. All right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the closing line your shoes.
SPEAKER_04All right. Should we do do you want to do the hot takes to hot cakes?
SPEAKER_01All right, yeah. All right, hot take, hot cake.
SPEAKER_04All right, so this is where if it's a hot take, then you know it's not too outrageous, not over the top, and you agree with it. If you think it's a hot cake, then you think that what the question is, it is over the top and um a little ridiculous. And um, you know, you basically don't agree with that. So um do you want to do you want to ask the first one once we ask the first one? I'll ask the second one.
SPEAKER_01All right, for Greg.
SPEAKER_04For Greg.
SPEAKER_01Sabres will win Eastern Division again and reach a Stanley Cup final of the season.
SPEAKER_03Oh that's the toughest division in the league. You know, we got uh um Montreal. You got Montreal Montreal, you know, who extremely interesting up and coming team, Florida, and they beat us already this uh this already passed, you know, uh playoffs. Who we got Montreal did oh yeah, um and I think they're only getting better.
SPEAKER_04They just resigned Dobish for three years. Really? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03So they're goalie, yeah, it's locked out. Florida looks like they're gonna be a dream team, like um, with uh bringing in um Brady Tachuk. So we got both Kachuk brothers um, you know, are gonna be uh hell of a force, uh, you know, uh a force to be reckoned with. Definitely. Uh I think Detroit's gonna fall fall off.
SPEAKER_04Right, yeah. Um they didn't make the playoffs last year, but they were right there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but they were leading the division for half the season.
SPEAKER_04No. Washington was no they weren't.
SPEAKER_01Washington led the division most of the season.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, yeah, you're right. They're not in our division. Okay. They were leading the division. All right, all right.
SPEAKER_03In the Eastern Conference, they had the most points for a period of time. Yeah, they had a good season up and then they just fell off. Yeah, faded. Yeah. Um, you know, Ottawa, I'm not really scared of, but I think Buffalo will definitely uh maybe Detroit's a lot of like hot take.
SPEAKER_04Detroit's kind of like a lot of the Saber seasons, you know, like had some promise, but then same old story, just fall short. But no, not last.
SPEAKER_03I'll say uh I think it's a hot take.
SPEAKER_04Oh, your rules hot take.
SPEAKER_03I I I I I believe in Lindy. I think uh yeah, he's re-signed. Yeah, I think they're gonna win it for Lindy. And I think uh yeah, I think we would go to the conference.
SPEAKER_04Why do you have a sabers now? Uh what? Let's go sabers sound effects.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. No, I think I got rid of that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, third. We work them in there. All right, Greg. Second one. Does Josh Allen need a bona fide with quotation marks wide receiver to win it all, win the Super Bowl? Does Josh Allen need a bona fide wide receiver? Hot cake? No, hot take or hot cake?
SPEAKER_03Wait, so are you asking me the question? It's more of an argument than a statement. It's a statement. It's a statement.
SPEAKER_04You're saying what is Well, I guess it is a question. Does Josh Allen need a bona fide wide receiver to win a Super Bowl?
SPEAKER_03Unequivocally, yes.
SPEAKER_04Oh we call that a hot cake?
SPEAKER_03Yes. I think he does need I don't think you think Josh Allen I think he's as good at why he's so good is because of what he's got in his belly. The fire he has in his belly to to to to to lift up the rest of his team. But I don't think he's like the perfect like passing quarterback.
SPEAKER_04Where he can hit sure he can be a good passer.
SPEAKER_03He hasn't hit the long ball in four years, you know, consistently.
SPEAKER_04So when you see Josh Allen, you see him?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, or before or behind the line of scrimmage. You know, and and then Brady being uh turned into the head coach doesn't give me any confidence. I want him fired as the uh as the uh offensive coordinator. I I I have no confidence. We're getting a little off track here, but I'm telling you, is I I think um Allen needs help. Um and it's a bona stud wide receiver for him to cross that threshold.
SPEAKER_04That's I I totally disagree. Couldn't disagree with you more. I could think of quarterbacks in this lead that need a bona fide wide receiver. Josh Allen is not one of them.
SPEAKER_03Josh is not that running quarterback. Like we we we can look like he was three, four years ago, five years ago. I think Chris wants to chime in on this. He can chime in. He's got some he's got some uh opinions of his own.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he can chime in.
SPEAKER_02I think he needs a bona fide wide receiver number one more than he needs James Cook. I think James Cook has a redundancy, and what Josh Allen does well is get out of the pocket. And so if all the pressure is on the backfield and the defense can just focus on Josh and James Cook on the backfield, they can just stack the box. I think that's like last year we saw Josh didn't scramble as much. He wasn't as creative. He was just there's tons of pressure back there. So if he has a bona fide number one, that opens him up to do things out of the backfield that he wasn't able to do. Like what playing James.
SPEAKER_04Like like that, like the like the Houston game. What would he have done differently in the Houston game if he had a wide receiver? Like like uh like a like a uh the guy who went to uh New England um Brown, what's his name? He went from Philly to New England recently. Yeah, so in the Houston game.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so in the Houston game, I think it was more a scheme than it was anything else. We didn't keep anyone back there to protect Josh, and Houston couldn't believe that they played offense against us with only five offensive linemen against their four-down deep linemen. No one else in the league played them that way all year, and they just had a field day.
SPEAKER_04Right, so that that I mean that tells me that it's got nothing to do with the wide receivers, it's the offensive line.
SPEAKER_02Deion Dawkins and Spencer Brown got beat. But you can't leave them, but you can't leave them all alone against three of the best defensive ends.
SPEAKER_01You gotta have a uh tight end there.
SPEAKER_04He looked like he quit on a few plays, Deion Dawkins in that Houston game.
SPEAKER_02I think he was a little concussed, and I don't think he should have kept playing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that could have played a role in that too. But back because he was just like, what do you he was just letting guys run by him and stuff?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think he was hurt, and I think Spencer Brown played hurt too long, and I don't think Sean McDermott did a good job of protecting him from himself in that game. Yeah, I think that uh Spencer Brown. I think a good player will always want to play, whether they're hurt or not, but it's a coach's job to see that he's not able to do it.
SPEAKER_04See, I think of guys like Brock Purdy, to succeed, he needs a stud.
SPEAKER_01You know, um he's not like the um he's not a great quarterback, he's like a system quarterback.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, system quarterback. Where I think Josh Allen, he he he's he can he can throw the ball to anyone. Um and he likes to spread it around. So I don't think that uh that he needs a wide receiver uh bona fide stud.
SPEAKER_02I mean when he had a bona fide stud, wide receiver. Yeah, what happened? We were the best offense in the league.
SPEAKER_04We didn't win the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_02We did not we haven't won the Super Bowl whether we had a top wide receiver or not.
SPEAKER_04But we've tried that and we've seen how that worked.
SPEAKER_03Well it didn't work the other way either. Yeah, we have we have the best we have one of the best running backs in the league, and that's not the answer either.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, we'll see what this new coach has because he's gonna scheme differently. I mean he could have a lot of similar talent, but just use them in different ways. So we'll see how he does that.
SPEAKER_02I think having a healthy combination of Dallas Kincaid and DJ Moore makes up the combination or makes up for not having a number one wide receiver. I don't see DJ Moore as a number one. But I see him and Kincaid as a viable option to like replace a number one receiver. He was the third receiver.
SPEAKER_03He was the third receiver in Chicago.
SPEAKER_02DJ Moore.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, DJ Moore was.
SPEAKER_01No, he was the second. No, he's actually no, he's a five receiver one. DJ Moore?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't know. Was he injured?
SPEAKER_01He was one.
SPEAKER_03I know that. He was on my fancy.
SPEAKER_02I would also say Caleb Williams is not Josh Allen. He's a second-year quarterback still figuring it out. Yeah, yeah. That's the difference. I mean, light years difference there.
SPEAKER_04So last year our our second and third wide receivers were tight ends. Yeah. And first was um our best tight end.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's secure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And then Kincaid and um, Coleman wasn't he? Can't Coleman third.
SPEAKER_01Oh, can't Coleman was third.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02He was still our third most productive receiver.
SPEAKER_04I thought he was fourth.
SPEAKER_02He's awful. He they asked him to do too much.
SPEAKER_04What? You mean like ask him to show up on time? Is that what you mean?
SPEAKER_03That's something he can't do. You think Coleman can be a productive uh receiver in this league? Yes. Yeah, Ken Coleman is cousin to uh Davis was at that role. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_04Can he can he mature? Can he show maturity and show up on time? Can you show up on time and not talk about yellow coats? I was not making millions of dollars.
SPEAKER_01This is a father-son show. No, he's uh um related to C. D. Lamb. I don't know if you're can't Coleman's related to C. D. Lamb.
SPEAKER_04Can Coleman's cousins with C. D. Lamb. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_03Is that kind of helpful? I did know that.
SPEAKER_04Did you?
SPEAKER_03That was part of the draft uh recon.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_02So Josh Allen needs a number one wide receiver. That's that's a hot.
SPEAKER_04I disagree, but we'll agree to disagree. What do you think, Dad? You think he needs a stud?
SPEAKER_05Yes. I think he needs a stud. I think Chris just convinced him. What was my thinking before?
SPEAKER_04I I I more like I think it's more I think they need a better scheme. I think a lot of times that's how you win or lose a game, is um it's not always the better players that win, it's it's how you play. Brady. Joe Brady. H C G B.
SPEAKER_03You think uh is he's gonna scheme up where he's gonna be an improvement? I have no idea. You can't say that right now.
SPEAKER_04I don't know him, never saw him coach. Right. Never saw him coach Pee Wee. I've seen him, I could I could judge him on his interviews and press conferences. He definitely seems like a down to earth. Human being. Um, he did you know, like that's what so Sean McDermott gave a lot of cliches, it was very robotic, and he and he replaced Rex Ryan, who was a disaster, you know what I mean? So you could see why how they wanted to tighten things up. Like, all right, this guy's very professional, he's not gonna embarrass us. And when when things are bad, he'll just give out that, you know, that cliche and and not show his emotion. So that was that that ran its course, and eventually eventually uh uh Tripagula uh every relationship he has ends badly, it seems like, you know, like first he'll love you, and then uh then he'll hate you. You probably love Ken Coleman at one point.
SPEAKER_03That's what scares me about Brady, though, because the the the head coaching job is a lot more than being friends, being friends, being good in the locker room. Yeah, no, but he knows all he's had mentors just clock management, you know, it's it's it's about delegating. It's like being a CEO. Yeah, it's like being a CEO. And he seems like a little bit of too much of an average Joe, like wanting to be a friend, like cool guy.
SPEAKER_04Who does that remind you of? The coach in LA? No, because those guys the same way. He's he's like the very first press conference, like, I don't know what to do, guys. I've never done this before. Well and he came up, and it was everyone's like, you know, the way he in his tone, he's like, he's gonna be.
SPEAKER_03This guy Yeah, yeah, he was hyped. Yeah. He was hyped. Brady, I I didn't like him as an offensive coordinator. Like, I don't know how much of an attack Sean McDonald. We don't play Colin. That's what I'm hoping for. I'm holding my breath that that he was like, Yeah, they blame him for everything.
SPEAKER_04The they blame him for all the driving effects.
SPEAKER_03Even the owner says, oh no, that was Sean's pair, you know, like um throwing Coleman under the bus. Yeah, but uh I don't have a whole lot of confidence in Brady until he proves me until he proves it otherwise. So he's killed proofing. Yeah, only because I can go off of uh what I see, and I want to know fire it as an offensive as an LC. Right? Yeah, like no creativity, just throw it to secure behind the line of scrimmage helps brings a turn. Yeah, or the hook and land or the hook and laner that we've done in in in uh in uh took over the conversation, so we're going to switch subject here. Alright.
SPEAKER_01So switching subjects. All right, will the Bills win Super Bowl verse 49 of the season?
SPEAKER_04Oh well, the Bill, this this was attended for Dad because he was talking about um placing a bet on the Bills winning.
SPEAKER_05Definitely will win. Bet the house.
SPEAKER_04Yeah? Who do you think they will face in the Super Bowl?
SPEAKER_05Los Angeles?
SPEAKER_01No, Beth.
SPEAKER_04Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_01Let me check here.
SPEAKER_04Check the odds?
SPEAKER_01Yep. Uh bills are last time I checked.
SPEAKER_04Bills are second. No, but you can actually make a bet. You can make a bet with with longer odds of who they will be in the Super Bowl. Oh, I didn't know that. So if you did bills over Rams, you're gonna have longer odds.
SPEAKER_01XLI, bills are second plus 1000, Rams are first plus 550. I'll probably make both better.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, they're second.
SPEAKER_03Wow. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02Where's the Super Bowl?
SPEAKER_01It is in, I'm trying to think. Super Bowl. I think it's in, I don't think it's in California again.
SPEAKER_03What do you think? Coinslet will be at the first stadium.
SPEAKER_04Oh, the first and the new stadium? Yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Pretty sure 61, right? It is in the middle.
SPEAKER_04Is the is the red and blue gonna be the first event there?
SPEAKER_02August 8th. August 8th.
SPEAKER_03Red and blue.
SPEAKER_04It's just a scrimmage?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's a scrimmage.
SPEAKER_04But it'll be the first time. Super Bowl 61 in Los Angeles.
SPEAKER_01Super Bowl 61 is in SoFi.
SPEAKER_04So Fi Stadium, then the Bills will or the Super Bowl will be. On Valentine's Day? Wait. Super Bowl's on Valentine's Day? 14th?
SPEAKER_02Breaking Hearts already.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. Alright, um it might be.
SPEAKER_01Again, same question. Scotty Scheffler will be the greatest golfer of all time.
SPEAKER_04Alright, can you speak a little louder, please?
SPEAKER_01Scotty Scheffler will be the greatest golfer of all time. Most majors and PGA tournaments.
SPEAKER_04Most majors and PGA tour tournaments.
SPEAKER_05I tend to agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04The only thing is, he can easily just walk away and say, I'm not gonna golf anymore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he like cares about at his age.
SPEAKER_02Can we get some stats? How far behind is he? How far behind is he in majors?
SPEAKER_03Behind you behind Nicholas.
SPEAKER_04Alright. Yeah, that is a good uh I'm checking. Alright.
SPEAKER_01Check Michael says 18 major championships and 73 PGA.
SPEAKER_04Can you say that a little louder?
SPEAKER_01Nicholas has 18 major championships and 73 PGA tour victories. Sheffler has four majors and 20 PGA tour ones.
SPEAKER_04I think Tiger Woods has the most PGA tour victories, but fewer majors.
SPEAKER_01Tiger has 18 uh PGA tour wins, 15 majors.
SPEAKER_03So still a lot. Wait a second. How many? No, more than 18. He's got 82.
SPEAKER_01No, 82 PGA tour wins, 15 majors.
SPEAKER_03How much did Nicholas have? Over 18 and 73. Oh, so he does so Tiger does have more.
SPEAKER_04He's got more PGA tour victories, but not more majors. That's why he can go back.
SPEAKER_03Tiger's probably the best player never.
SPEAKER_04Well, Scotty gets 21 majors in 84. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And he's 29.
SPEAKER_03Oldest guy? Yeah. It ain't happening. As a man in his 30s, it doesn't get any easier all time.
SPEAKER_01Truffler is, let's see, 30. He's 30 years old. It can get easier.
SPEAKER_03I wonder how many majors Tiger had at the age at the same age.
SPEAKER_04So if he had a lot of stats over there.
SPEAKER_03A lot of research.
SPEAKER_04If it was two a year for the next 10 years. Um years. Two years. So at 30, it's still that's what you need. That's what um at 30.
SPEAKER_01Tiger Woods is still 10 majors and 46 PG tournaments.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so this is hot cake. That's a hot cake. I'll say this. Shuffler is more uh is easier to root for thanks.
SPEAKER_02Back then in the early 2000s, the whole world is rooting for Tiger. Yeah, I like watching my guess. He changed the game of golf.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was easy to root for then. Right. But but he was also um I was saying shuffler was easier to root for.
SPEAKER_04But he was also like this um Enigma that was like a robot, and nobody really he never showed his personality until everything kind of came out in the public. Oh that's what that guy is really like.
SPEAKER_03I liked how the until the when he one time I remember him showing some personality was when one of the fans had a t-shirt with his monk's hat printed on the front of it. And he was walking, he liked it, walking, he liked it, he laughed at smart, and the fan was like, Oh yeah, you saw that, you saw that, that's right. He was trying to keep High Girls trying to keep it straight.
SPEAKER_04I seen um something very similar to Scotty Shuffler at the US Open.
SPEAKER_03Oh, when he got arrested as leading, yeah, that morning. Yeah leading.
SPEAKER_04And then there was a guy, there was a little bit like an ESPN 30 for 30 thing, a documentary, this guy who went to the print shop, made the made the t-shirts. Yeah. And he got a kick kick out of it, you know, because he he's got really no Yeah, that was not bad. Yeah, he didn't do anything wrong.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Like turned what used the wrong lane or something weird.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he said he was um he could see ESPN from his cell block and he was stretching, warming up in there. He was he was leading the tournament, right? Yeah, yeah. And then the next day he he shot like a really good road. But he had said he didn't process anything. He never thought about you know big deal, you know, and all the media and stuff. And then I think he said he came home, he processed it, and then he got to it did a little bit. Yeah, he didn't he didn't play bad. Yeah, I think he made top 20 or something, but um he wasn't leading. Yeah, he didn't win it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right, all right. That would have been a better story if he won it.
SPEAKER_04We got one that Chris Chris has um some MLB knowledge, Baltimore Orioles fan. But this isn't.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I am a Baltimore Orioles fan, but they've been bad for a very long time.
SPEAKER_04What is that mean?
SPEAKER_02Oh, it makes it tough to follow the team.
SPEAKER_04I agree, but it doesn't make you less of a fan, does it?
SPEAKER_02It does a lot.
SPEAKER_04It really does. That's it. Well, you just pay. I think you know, like with the Sabres and the drought, you you pay less attention. You know, it's like, yeah, I'm still there when they come back, I'm right there. But during this time, I'll just look at look at the standings and like a volcano. Mine's joining the pod. Alright, so here's the question, Chris. Are the Dodgers the team of the decade?
SPEAKER_02I would say easily, yes. Easily. The most talented team ever assembled. The fact that they don't win it every year is boggling. I don't, yeah.
SPEAKER_04The Los Angeles Dodgers.
SPEAKER_02Probably the best baseball player that's ever lived.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's super talented.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he pitches in and runs phenomenally. He does both. Better than anyone else. It's incredible.
SPEAKER_01But our team is good. You have like crazy players in every team.
SPEAKER_02And you can if you can pay a team to be the best team in the world, then that's what you get. That's how you get the Dodgers.
SPEAKER_03Well the Yankees did that for years.
SPEAKER_04If the Yankees were to be able to sign one soto, we would be that team right now.
SPEAKER_03But you couldn't.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the Yankees are Yankees. That's our team. That's Jimmy Roof. The Evil Empire. The Evil Empire, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, uh, you know, I'm more of a I'm more of a uh Blue Jays fan.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I pulled for them in that World Series. That was fun against the Dodgers. I'm more of a I'm not gonna lie, I'm a bit of a uh bandwagon, but I have done.
SPEAKER_04We can watch every game.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Every single game is on TV.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I can also watch every game for the Blue Jays. Really? Uh I don't know. I I uh have uh uh pirated uh I don't want to say that on air. You won't reveal that the authorities just have that. But I love who's listening.
SPEAKER_04Alright, we got a little key situation going on here. So this this will go around to everyone. Chris, you can you'll come back for a second.
SPEAKER_02The salary cap in baseball is ruining the whole thing. That's why the Dodgers are so good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I mean that's why everyone hates the Dodgers and the Yankees and the Mets and the Cubs. Um I guess if you're really, really into the support, which I'm not, then you get annoyed about the teams that spend the most are always in the World Series. And that's you know, when it's like Yankees, Dodgers, I was like, oh, that's cool, two great teams. And and then uh yeah, a lot of other hardcore baseball people are like that's the worst scenario. Yeah, you know, because they they bought the way. But then get a salary cap.
SPEAKER_03So is there no salary cap in baseball? Yeah, no, yeah. So who has the most money wins, basically?
SPEAKER_04Get one team that has expense like 300 million, and then like Seattle or Tampa. No, yeah, Seattle. Right, but like not even close.
SPEAKER_03I don't know about it anymore, but I remember uh you know, Tampa being in the same division as Yankees. Um the Orioles are in that division. Oh yeah, and the Oriol kills me. Right. So Tampa and New York City. Just to see how much uh possible. You're right, that is running.
SPEAKER_04MLB salary cap. So to see who spends what.
SPEAKER_02At one point the Yankees infield was worth more than the Orioles' entire roster. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER_04Trying to find a list.
SPEAKER_02So next year there might be a lockout because the teams want a salary cap and the players do not. The players will lose a lot of money.
SPEAKER_04So next year the owners do now.
SPEAKER_02They want a salary cap so that they can.
SPEAKER_04I thought, but then but then Steinbrenner can't buy a championship.
SPEAKER_02But there's more teams that can't compete than there are major players.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I get that. But the Yankees um are probably the most powerful team in the league. Sure. But if they don't think don't they not want a sailor cap?
SPEAKER_02But they would still have to pay their players less than they do now. They would take money away from the players.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I get that. But I think that they are on the other side of the argument. And I I don't know this, but I would think that they don't want a sailor cap. The Dodgers would not want a sailor cap because then they can't do what they are doing. That's true. They don't care about see when you have when you have Dodger game in Baltimore, it's selling out because they're all seeing Otani. So so their vote counts more than Baltimore's vote. But no, it doesn't.
SPEAKER_03Because Otani's gonna be playing in the league no matter what.
SPEAKER_04Why no matter where I'm just saying that I'm talking about the dynamics of power?
SPEAKER_03No, I know, but I think I think Oilers have a seat at the table just or um or any other minority. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. The Expos would have a seat at the table just as much as the Dodgers would.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but not really, because Yankees will sell out every arena they go to in every city. Not every team can do that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Correct. But if you gave every every team a chance to have an all-star player as opposed to loading them all up on one team, then more stadiums would sell out more often. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't disagree with that. And when when when there's more cities have a better chance of winning a championship, more people can be involved, that's only gonna be better for the league. Right.
SPEAKER_04So that's so let's let's answer this question. Should the MLB have a salary cap? Well, you uh Chris, you have already stated that. I would say your vote here.
SPEAKER_05I would say yes.
SPEAKER_04Mason yes. All right, I I agree. I agree. I wasn't disagreeing, I wasn't disagreeing, I was just saying what I think the Dodgers position would be in the Cubs in those times. Well, I wouldn't say we'll be against it, so that's why I'm thinking a lockout might not happen because I don't think you'd get it.
SPEAKER_02Whatever reason is the owners against the players, and the players association will not sign a new contract to play under a salary cap because they're leaving so much more money on the table. That's that's your all-stars taking like $30 million taking.
SPEAKER_03So uh here's a question close to the table. Will there be a lockout?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, how close is this to uh like being it doesn't look good now.
SPEAKER_02This is the issue. This is the main issue. The lockout looks likely now. It's they have a year to figure it out.
SPEAKER_04I should probably move that up a little bit. Or maybe it's fine when it is. Alright.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so at the 38 minute the um actually the Mets could buy the orals twice with their salary cap. Right. The payroll 328.
SPEAKER_04So who's who's number one in the payroll? Mets can you can you read that that number?
SPEAKER_01328 million for the Mets.
SPEAKER_04Alright, 320 million for the Mets, and what's what's the last place team?
SPEAKER_01The Cleveland, 78 million.
SPEAKER_04So 328 at the most and 78 at the bottom, Cleveland. So it's pretty hard to compete. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty hard.
SPEAKER_03Four or five times.
SPEAKER_04It's four times.
SPEAKER_02You can buy suck though. So that's you can spend all the money in the world, but if you can't coach them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's nice to see him struggle.
SPEAKER_04And that does happen a lot, you know. They're just like they're not quite the gel team, you know, they're not they're not uh buying in or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Or they're just there for check.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like Juan Soto. And like he literally said, I am here for the money. And I don't care who pays me, but whoever pays me the most is the team I'm going to.
SPEAKER_03Who said that?
SPEAKER_04Juan Soto.
SPEAKER_03One of the best hitters. He was young, he's he's in was he in Toronto?
SPEAKER_04He was not in New York. He was in New York, but he was somewhere else before the outside I can't remember. Um, but he was playing like behind Aaron Judge. I will say so. He pitched differently, and he was really playing for the national guy, they pitched to him differently, and he's not being he's not as effective and successful.
SPEAKER_03Well, I gotta tell you, I I I think that uh honesty is refreshing. And I think that because I think every player, I think every player feels that way, but he's the only one that's got enough balls to say it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think they all feel that way.
SPEAKER_04That's fine. Exactly. Yeah, you're right. He is, he did just say it like that. And that's fine. Um, but I'd be upset as a Matt fan. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They gave him 700 million. It's like enough to buy a team.
SPEAKER_03You can buy the Orioles Bible dice, probably. Yeah, that is kind of crazy. Yeah, 700 million. Over how long though? Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04It should have been like the Yankees off from like 650 or something, or something like that. They got close to it, and it's like, no.
SPEAKER_01Alright, uh, we got prediction from last week. That's what we did. We did a PGA predictions, and I ended up the scores to heal me.
SPEAKER_04So you got So this is for the Travelers tournament?
SPEAKER_01Let me try what I got. So I got first pick of Shaffley, I got seven under. Second pick McIntyre, 16 under. I long shot JCT, I got six under. So I got twenty-nine under. How are you feeling right now? I got twenty-nine under. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I picked Shuffle. You should feel bad.
SPEAKER_01Sheffler got um minus twenty-one.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01Then Woodland got plus five. All right. Then Denny McCarthy got minus fourteen. So you got minus thirty. I got minus twenty-nine.
SPEAKER_04I won. Oh, what tournament we got this week?
SPEAKER_01Uh we got the I don't know. John J. Classic.
SPEAKER_03So Mason's basically the producer of this podcast. Yeah. Okay. So look at the job.
SPEAKER_04Have you ever listened to the episode that you were on?
SPEAKER_03No. Well, I'm part of it.
SPEAKER_04It's the most unit? It's the most downloaded podcast. Is it really? Yeah. And it's actually about the subject that got we uh it's called Does Josh Allen Need a Y Bona Fi? I don't know if I use the word bona five.
SPEAKER_03It's very um expressive. I've never known you not to be. Oh, really? Well no. It's going viral. It goes viral.
SPEAKER_01Trending.
SPEAKER_04We've got a lot of other stats about this podcast.
SPEAKER_01All right.
SPEAKER_04Um World Club 1F off air.
SPEAKER_02A red light for the producer.
SPEAKER_04What do we what are we doing now? Um, do you want to talk about World Cup real quick? Yeah. How about that USA World Cup game?
SPEAKER_03Loved it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we watched it. Pretty good.
SPEAKER_03We sent it for Monday night now. Yeah, we're we win to uh we live to uh quite another day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so win probability for US is 36%. Belgium is also 36%, and extra time is 28%.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow, that's interesting. What's gonna happen if we lose something with the fact that it's in the United States? Uh are people gonna be as well. Yeah, yeah, are we gonna care?
SPEAKER_05We're gonna take our bog.
SPEAKER_03Is anybody gonna care about the World Cup anymore though? If the USA gets knocked out? Yeah, so I mean not anybody, but uh, people who live here.
SPEAKER_04No. Oh yeah. Yeah. People will still follow it. It's a big big event. It's it's definitely living up to the hype financially. The economic impact is like extremely um high. Well, I really do you have a do you have specific on that story?
SPEAKER_02It was a Kansas City uh specific bars, restaurant areas that had invested a lot of money to get ready for World Cup crowds, and they had returned on it, and they're not getting the return on investment that they were hoping to.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02So Kansas City smaller market, uh maybe the big bigger cities, but um before the World Cup started, a lot of the hotel reservations. FIFA had booked and stuff were going unused or like getting uh cancelled like that.
SPEAKER_04Why is that?
SPEAKER_02Um people weren't traveling or were worried about traveling to the US from certain countries and stuff. I don't feel like they feel like they can get those welcomed or like they're arrested.
SPEAKER_04But it hasn't I but but there's crowds, you see gigantic crowds.
SPEAKER_02I just you do see a lot of positive press now, but I don't think that I think they've overpromised and underdelivered a little bit. Oh yeah of what I think the economic impact is still good, but I think it's not what maybe they promised.
SPEAKER_04Well some of the th I heard that this bar in Boston, uh it's biggest day, St. Patrick's Day, and they did three times that. Scotland. Yeah, for the Scotland, yeah, for the Scotland match, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They did three times that, yeah. So yeah, but I this is one, yeah, I guess uh, but there's different stories uh going the other way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04They got the lucky draw, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wherever the Scots went, I think everyone did good.
SPEAKER_04But do you also hear about the Japanese fans? Love it. You know what they do? They go there, they party, they fill up an entire section. When the game's over, you know what they do? Clean up. They clean up after their entire area. They open up bags and not surprise me.
SPEAKER_02Even the team like cleans up the locker room afterwards.
SPEAKER_03It's like the most civilized civilization on the planet. Yeah, it's just nice. Yeah, I like all for that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, we're up against the clock here. Mason's pointing. Yes there. 45 minutes. Um, yeah, what do you so what do we think? Think we we can beat Belgium? What do you think, Mason? Let's start with you.
SPEAKER_01I think we can. I think we have one of the best teams in the World Cup.
unknownBelga.
SPEAKER_03Is that a fact, though? Yeah. Have they appealed or reviewed?
SPEAKER_01No, they're they looked at it's not reviewable. It's not reviewable.
SPEAKER_02Oh, are we um Is that a fact? I think we can win the game. I think it's it's gonna be tight done. Uh this is the best team that the US has ever had, I think, from front to back. But I think uh against European competition, in the last like 11 games that we played, we have not historically done well. So I think it'll probably be a close game.
SPEAKER_05But I have rooting for I agree with Chris. Uh your games are usually superior. But I'll be rooting for the US.
SPEAKER_01Even if we um win this game ourselves play either Portugal or Spain. So that's gonna be difficult. Oh, that'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_02Um Portugal hasn't deserved to win either of the last two games that they played.
SPEAKER_04That last game was uh breaking.
SPEAKER_01That is an air horn.
SPEAKER_04Screw it there yesterday. A lot of these major American players are playing over in Europe as well, aren't they?
SPEAKER_02Uh like we have four or five guys starters that play in major European leagues.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um then other guys are like second-tier leagues uh over in Europe still, like uh like the second tier leagues.
SPEAKER_04None of them play MLS?
SPEAKER_02Um play MLS.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02I was just curious. Yeah. Um of our 11 starters.
SPEAKER_01Police played for AC Milan. Oh right. Um, ready to wrap it up?
SPEAKER_03What what's that? The Diamond League? I heard something mentioned about the Diamond League yesterday.
SPEAKER_02The million dollar track and field meets that they host around to try and boost the sport of track and field. It's like a new league competitive to try and keep people interested outside of just the Olympics.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02It's for big money.
SPEAKER_04They're throwing money on to track stars?
SPEAKER_03Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe it's about time. Yeah. That's cool. Hot tech. Hot take, maybe do a pod about the diamond league.
SPEAKER_04All right, we'll put it. Mason, can we put that in a rundown next week?
SPEAKER_01Maybe.
SPEAKER_04All right, we got a maybe.
SPEAKER_01All right. All right, that's all we got today.
SPEAKER_04That's it. That's the end of it. Wait, before we end, any uh any last final thoughts? Final thoughts.
SPEAKER_05Going around the table.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, around the table, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Bills will win the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_04All right, we got that recorded and we'll replay that.
SPEAKER_03I believe in the Sabres, but I think it's gonna be an uphill climb to win the division, but I think we'll at least make it to the second round of playoffs.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm with Grandpa Paul.
SPEAKER_02Ditto on what he said.
SPEAKER_04The Bills, okay, all right. I love the positivity about the Bills. Um I'm going to say my final thoughts. This is a great podcast. Really like all the canvo and the banter, the producer on site. Um, yeah, great podcast. That's my final thought. Mason? Final thoughts?
SPEAKER_01I think the US men's national team will win the World Cup. Oh. That's all we got.
SPEAKER_04All right, thanks guys.
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