Jack

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Welcome to the Cashley Show. We are Kevin and Ashley.

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Hello.

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We started this podcast after recent tragedies to take a break from negativity and discover the good news happening all around us. This week's episode is a few days late. We have had some issues at our house.

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We've had some health health issues we've had to take care of.

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Yeah.

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Not our new son. Nobody's pregnant. We're not having another.

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No. The one the one that's been having problems. We're going to call him Jack. He has been to three different hospitals in five days. So we've been we've been busy. But this episode we're actually going to talk about Jack. So he was actually born two weeks early in emergency C section.

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Little Jack. But he wasn't like underweight, was he?

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He was not. He was eight, one and twenty-one and a half inches long, but he was yeah, two weeks early. So he was He was not early.

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He was He just baked fast.

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He was done. When he was born, the nurses took him away for over an hour because he was having lung issues, which has followed him his whole life.

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Still to this day.

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Yep. I've I never had health issues as a pro as a child, so this was all new to me.

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I feel like you're pointing the finger.

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This is from you for sure. Did you not have lung issues as a child? I did. Yeah, these are this is from you.

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But I conquered them. Look at me now.

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Yeah. But he I'm strong, y'all. He he he hasn't conquered his.

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Yeah, he's still young.

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So he failed to thrive for the first few years of his life. We went to many specialists and they all said nothing was wrong with him, even though he cried almost all the time for two years.

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Yeah, he was so unhappy. Yeah.

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He never felt good. Yeah. Yeah. When he was I don't I don't remember exactly how old he was, but he had pneumonia twice as a child, a baby. Like he was less than two, I would think. I just remember taking him for a chest x-ray because it was the middle of the night. If you've ever had an infant with a chest x-ray, it's awful. Horrible.

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So terrible.

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They make them arms up and they put this plastic thing around them so their arms are stuck up above.

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But not like plastic, like a plastic bag.

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Yeah, like a cylinder. They're in a cylinder and their arms are stuck like next to their ears while they do this x-ray. It's and he just screamed. He hated that.

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As I imagine all all infants do in that situation. I doubt there's ever a baby that's like locked in that thing in that position, and he's just like chilling.

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Yeah. Jack was Jack was always sad, so that was pretty brutal for him. He would get reactive airway, so what is reactive airway exactly? So it's when he has problems with his lungs, like the asthma, like it's tightening of the throat instead of the lungs. So you have to have an oral steroid to open up the throat, which is his current problem right now. One of them. So when you do the albuterol, it's not it's not helping because it's in his throat. It's in the throat, not in the lungs.

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I wish that had a different name. Like reactive airway doesn't like reactive just means like my knee is reactive when I hit it, it it like that doesn't to me that doesn't signify like a bad His airway reacts to it's like a closing and tightening of his airway in his throat. Like so I would I just wish I had a different name. Yeah. Because you say stuff like I you've said reactive airways before like several times, and I'm always just like that doesn't sound uh it's bad.

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It's pretty awful. You can only get a few steroid pills to get you through that moment, and so it generally would happen to him in the middle of the night. So there was a lot of late night doctor trips.

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Yeah, yeah. He he does seem to struggle a lot at night, like going to bed.

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Mm-hmm. Nighttime is not his thing. He used sorry, go ahead.

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Yeah, he keep cutting you off. So I got I sit outside with him, right? And like the cool air. Is that supposed to help with reactive airways, like cool night air?

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I don't remember. He hasn't had reactive airway for probably like five years, maybe. I don't know. It's been a long time and now now we have it kind of again.

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Yeah. Because I I remember as a little kid sitting out on the front porch just like we do. Sitting out there, like late at night, in the dark with a blanket on, like just breathing the cold air and stuff, and just trying to like just trying to get right trying to get some air in. Yeah. So I yeah, he's he's sad right now and frustrated and scared. And I and I get it because I've yeah, I lived it. Maybe not quite as bad as he has had to live it.

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Yeah, his is pretty bad. We were in the mergency room yesterday because he couldn't breathe and he was terrified when he looks at you and like can't breathe. It's pretty terrible.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's it's sad to see your child feeling like that and looking like that and having to experience those things. And he's he's so much happier now, like than when he was younger. And he does things, you know, he plays sports, he does he likes to go swimming, you know, he's he's doing all those things, and he's you know, I would I would say that he's doing well. I don't know about thriving, but he's doing well, right? He's a part of like the student body stuff, like doing different things with that and doing well in school, and he likes school and he has friends and right, like just doing all the stuff, riding his used to ride his dirt bike till he till he crashed it and got hurt. Now he doesn't want anything to do with it. But I mean other than being a little bit on the shorter side, which is no big deal, right? Some people just grow later anyways.

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Yeah, he's actually gotten taller.

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Yeah, he's gotten taller. Yeah. He's gotten taller, he's grown faster than our other son in the last like six months, right? Because we have that measure on the wall. He's he's grown grown faster in the last six months than than our other Yeah. So we'll see.

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But our youngest was growing a lot for quite a while.

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Yeah. Alright, back to back to Jack.

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When he was young, it was really hard because people would bring their sick kids to our house, and he when he got sick, he couldn't breathe for like four to six weeks. It was fighting off what he had, but also having to do asthma treatments and albuterol and like like all these things to try to just get him to breathe. And you I have this later on, but you have to keep their oxygen above eighty-five percent. So we have an oxygen monitor because when he was little we had this awful time. You have to keep it above eighty-five percent. If it goes below, it starts to lead to organ damage. So it's important to monitor it a lot, and he's pretty worried about that right now and has been monitoring it often. When he was young, he also had eczema that covered his whole body.

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Yeah, like eczema psoriasis.

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Entire body. Yeah. Red splotches everywhere.

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His so itchy.

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Yeah, his feet would itch so much.

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He would scratch them and just rip them open, they'd be bleeding.

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Yep. And we had to give him wound to dermatologists, and they made him made us do a bleach bath. So it's like it's like half a cup of bleach in like a tup of water and like was it like a cup of salt?

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Yeah, something like that. Something like that. Yeah, bleach and salt and water. And then he'd have to take a bath in it.

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Yeah, because it was open wounds. Getting infected. Yeah, I don't I don't think it really hurt because it was only half a cup and quite a bit of water.

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Even still though, like just water, like rinsing a cut on your finger in the sink. Hurts.

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Yeah, because they would get infected because he was just scratching all the time.

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All the time. And he still kind of does with his legs.

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I know. We were at the emergency room yesterday, and then nurse was like, What's on his legs? And I was like, Eczema, welcome to my life. And he's got scratch marks on him from yeah, he just wakes up in the night just scratching, put lotion on him several times a day, and it doesn't even matter. It just like his legs look like he's never had lotion ever.

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Right. He We have those those pictures of him that I don't know. Too bad we can't share them. But like I I look at those every now and then and like I'll share them with friends and different stuff when they start talking about similar things. Or like with their you know, a lot of my friends are younger, and so they have younger kids. Yeah, and they, you know, have some similar types of things, right? I'll show them, you know, Jack and be like, like look at like this and that and yeah. Just I don't know, it was it was hard.

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Yeah, yeah. He wouldn't he would hardly eat anything for like seven or eight years. He's really good now and eats a lot. Not everything. He's pretty picky still. Yeah. And only likes freshly made things. He doesn't like leftovers.

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He's high fluten.

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Yeah. We would go to like family's house for dinner and we'd have to stop and get him chicken nuggets on the way home because that was all he would eat. And it was just like, whatever. Just eat. Eat something. Yeah. He had issues with food coloring.

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Oh yeah, what was it like tang or something?

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No, even kids.

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Or yell red Kool-Aid. Red Kool-Aid. Well, anything. Like we Yeah, but like he had something, that's how we figured it out.

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I don't remember what it exactly was, but Target used to sell like allergy medicine and I thought ibuprofen, like dye free. Right. They don't anymore. What?

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Come on, Target.

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But we had to get that because it just made him crazy.

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Yeah, it was like an ADHD type kid. Like he would just go just off the walls. So f Fruit Loops are out. Why do you need Fruit Loops?

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We don't we don't eat cereal. We hardly eat cereal food colouring. So we've had to cut a lot of things out of our lives. We had a babysitter watch him that was a neighbor.

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But she wasn't just a babysitter, she was like daycare, right? Like she ran daycare out of her house.

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Yeah, and she couldn't handle him. I could see in her face like she was stressed out of her mind when I would pick him up. The babysitter had been babysitting for over 30 years and said that he was the hardest kid he she had ever had. She only had him for a few months, and then my mom retired and was able to watch him, which was nice. She had a lot more patience for him.

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He also was pretty comfortable over there, right? He was just very familiar. Yeah.

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And she I think they had a pretty close bond after that until he moved away. He is allergic to most animals. He can't breathe when he goes to people's houses because he has allergy-induced asthma.

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Even our own house, like down in the basement, right? Like there's that room. I have no idea what's in that room. But anytime he goes there, or even bringing things up, like we bring that twin mattress up. Yeah. Think about the trampoline and jump. Like, we can't do that anymore because every time we bring it up and he gets near it, is like he can't breathe. His eyes are all and he's itchy and just like super reaction. And it's not like we've had animals down in there. So it was like the previous owner's like something must have stayed down there or something.

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Right. I don't know. Like I feel like even at my dad's house, his cat's been dead for over a year, more than that. Yeah. And he still struggles in his basement. It's I don't know.

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It's I wonder if there's like mold or mildew. Because like it's both both of them, both basements. When he goes down there, seem to set him off.

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Most people don't have like an animal vacuum that gets the hair and dander really well.

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So yeah, your mom's house with the one dog and all the hair that he would leave everywhere.

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Oh yeah, he could never breathe there. Yeah, he can't breathe at a lot of houses, and then he has to bring his inhaler and it doesn't know how much he still can't breathe, and it's it's pretty awful going anywhere. We went to an allergist, an ENT dermatologist, the pediatric gastroentinologist. I told the allergist when he was little all these things I thought he was allergic to, and he told me he wasn't allergic to any of those things, and they were gonna test him for these other things instead. It's so frustrating when it's hard.

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Yeah, like doctors and medical personnel. Like I'm sure they have a hard a hard job. Right. But when like a mother comes in talking to you about their son and the experiences, right? You were with you've been with them for however many years and all these things, and you've been living it day to day, and you tell the doctor something and they're like not like they just write you off and wave you off, and like I'm gonna do this instead. And they don't even like give explanations or like they just want to do their own thing. Yeah, that's so frustrating.

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The pediatrician that we had when he was little was really good, and he was pretty mad about the allergist dismissing my list of allergies. Luckily, where we are, there's a well, kind of there's a a pediatrician that's open 24-7, so you don't have to go to the emergency room. It's a lot cheaper than the emergency room. But that pediatrician tried everything. We actually found someone to help us as he got older, and the pediatrician was really nice and was like, I'm sorry that I couldn't help you. So yeah, that pediatrician, I think he sold his practice and isn't practicing anymore. Oh really?

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Is that a pediatrician at all?

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Like he's I I looked for him and I couldn't find anything. Yeah. Well, I think he was part owner in that business and they sold the business, so he Just on to something else. I'm sure he made some good money off that because it started like one location and got pretty big. I personally have lost faith in a lot of doctors because they just tell me he's fine. And like he wasn't fine. He cries all the time, like hardly slept. I had to rock him in the motion of the swing to get and like to try to slowly take my hands out so he thought someone was holding him all the time and wrapped him tight and he would never sleep.

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Yeah, I I I remember doing that too, the uh like automatic rocker, right? Because he wouldn't, if he just laid down, he wouldn't sleep, he would wake up almost immediately. Yeah, so they have that automatic rocker that you said, like the highest setting, and it's rocking, and you have to like wrap them tight like a burrito, and you just like hold them and you rock them and you bounce them, and he finally falls asleep, and then then you have to try and like your whole body's like moving with the rocker. So the same motion as you like slowly lay him down, and then put him in there, and then you gotta sneak your hands out. And even then, it seems like he would only sleep for like an hour.

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Yeah, if that he usually, if you didn't do it slow enough, he was like Yeah, wide awake. Why are you leaving me alone? Cries until you pick him up and try to rock him. Yeah, he was not a sleeper. I feel like a doctor should be trying to figure out the problem, and I feel like a lot of them don't. They just want to give you pills to fix things, but there's stuff that was wrong with him, and no one was willing to help. Like the pediatrician helped us by trying to get to other people, because that wasn't really his thing, like the gastroentinologist, the right sending you to people who maybe could help because it was beyond like his specialty or whatever.

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Right. Yeah, I wonder how much this is getting a little off topic, but I wonder how many medical places, doctors' offices, right, are just trying to like like the doctors want to help, but they are like limited, like they have 15 minutes. Right. And so they just have to like try and get through. Versus like that, how you were talking about how he was a part owner, right? So he had he had more freedom, probably more time, and like was building the business, and so he was able to spend more time, which is probably why the business succeeded so much, is like the care.

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Yeah, he was good, and most of the time you went there you waited an hour to see him. It was awful. But he did spend time with you, and he was he was good.

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Right. The downside to doctor who cares is like they're behind schedule all the time. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's like my year doctor. Well, I was like waiting for like an hour and a half or something.

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Yeah.

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Just for a video call.

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He spent time with me though. Yeah. He was trying.

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Yeah, so we had a chiropractor help him with the allergy to our dog. So he isn't as allergic to our dog as other people's, but it's hard to get hair from everyone's dog to do that. Another one helped us, so his body, another one told us that his body was full of toxins, like his adrenal glands and kidneys and liver, and all of it was just full of all these toxins, and that's why. And so he had to do some medicine with him, but it was really slow because he was small, so it was just drops. So by the time he was like two, two and a half, like he wasn't crying all the time. That chiropractor actually helped make him stop crying all the time. He wasn't all the way better, but at least he could sleep and it was okay. We moved to Texas. That was the first time when Jack got sick that his lungs weren't terrible. He didn't have the breathing issues for four to six weeks. I think moving to Texas helped him.

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Just the warm, like the hot climate. Yeah. So we were in that part of Texas. Texas is big and there's lots of different climates.

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Yeah. So this is like right now is the worst his lungs have been since before we moved to Texas.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So he has allergies to a lot of nuts. And we even went to the emergency room for Yeah.

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A neighbor, a neighbor gave us some Christmas cookies.

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Crushed up some walnuts.

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Yeah, I think it was it like crushed up with walnuts or was it made with walnut flour?

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It oh, I thought it was walnuts.

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It might have been made with a little like both walnut flour and head.

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Yeah, you talk to them, so maybe.

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Yeah. And he came home from school and was hungry and wanted a snack and saw a plate of cookies.

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Gobbling it up, and then he he usually couldn't tell when the walnuts and a cookie within the first like bite. He starts to react and his throat starts swelling. And so half a cookie later he's like, Oh no. Dad. So we're like, don't eat anything anyone brings us. You can only eat things I make.

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Yeah.

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He does pretty good though now, like you know, asking if things have walnuts and different stuff. Like, yeah. So that that visit to the hospital was a little bit scary, right? Because he was all swollen up and his mouth and his lips and like all these things in his throat. Yeah. That was they gave him the the epi pen shot there.

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Yeah, he carries one in his backpack now, so it's great fun.

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Yeah, but it and so it's like walnuts and like the f that family, right? Like pecans as well. And like hazelnuts. Remember, he used to love Nutella and would like have Nutella every day, but it would always he'd always complain about his lips being Oh, his lips were always like chapped. Always chapped.

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Oh like cracked and chapped. Right. And yeah. So we didn't know it was we're just like, stop licking your lips. Yeah.

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Oh, he's yelling at him.

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He's just having like a allergic.

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He can't have Nutella. It's not as bad as walnuts, but Nutella is not his thing either.

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Which is fine, because he was probably eating too much Nutella. Like that's a treat.

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Yeah. It's uh he left it on his pancakes.

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It's good stuff.

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Yeah. So two years ago he had bone tumor underneath his big toe. We went to the dermatologist because I thought maybe it was like a wart, and he tried to freeze it, but he was just freezing a bone.

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A bone fragment that was growing.

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Which was on top of his real bone, so I'm sure it was quite painful. So they had to remove his toenail to take that bone tumor off, and they were like, you he may not get his toenail back. Oh, cool. And then he got it. He did it did grow back, but then he got ingrown toenails, and then we had to cut those off and kill the toenails on the side so it wouldn't come back again.

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And that was weird. Like, right? They put that like ring on his toe to like I don't I don't know what to call it, but uh like a ring to like cut off the circulation and everything, right? And then they took they were like skewers, like wooden skewers for like shish kebabs is what they look like, right? And like they put the whatever that stuff was on the end of them that like will kill the nail bed or whatever, yeah, and like jammed them down each side of his toe. His toe was numb. That would have been painful for he's just yeah, sitting there with his toe and He's got these two like giant wooden toothpicks sticking out of his toenails, and I'm just like, oh man. It was that was yucky.

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Then last year he got he went to go get braces and they did the x-ray, and orthodontist was like, You need to go to or oral surgeon. He has a cyst in his jaw. So the cyst had grown in with that wisdom tooth. The wisdom tooth that was coming in. So we went there. It was a long process, but he got it out.

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Do you remember what it was called? Like the type of started the G or something?

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I don't remember.

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Gangly.

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Nah. It had a I don't remember. But it was one that's like an aggressive growing. Yeah. It was yeah.

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So not like a benign cyst, but because it was like eating a hole in his jaw.

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Yeah, so if it grows back, it's possible that they have to take bone from another part of his body and fix it.

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Or could they use a cadaver? Like a different bone. I've heard of people doing that. Like they spice in like cadaver bone and stuff.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know either. But that's one one less wisdom tooth he had he has to get out now.

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Yeah, so they went in to do a biopsy of it and the the wisdom tooth just like fell out.

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Like they cut it open and it's all pop.

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Yep. Hello. Can you just take the other ones now? Yeah. Yeah.

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So then and he didn't he had such a hard time with that. Like his jaw, it wasn't like lock jaw, but his jaw, he just couldn't open it more than like what it was it, like two popsicle sticks, right? They gave us those popsicle sticks to so he couldn't open it farther than like two popsicle sticks and like couldn't couldn't make it go anymore, and like it just hurt and all this stuff. And so that doctor gave us tongue depressors. Yeah, tongue depressors, like popsicle sticks, right? It's like you put put one in, and then you know the next day you put two in and then you put three and like and you'll get to a point where like you can't put more just on that side, like on each side or whatever, right? And so he had like three popsicle sticks in his mouth, like on his uh molars, so like prying his jaw open. Yeah, and I don't like crying. He's got tears running down his face because it it hurts so much.

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Yeah, when the when the doctor went in to take the gauze out, he couldn't even fit his finger in into Jack's mouth because he couldn't he couldn't open it wide enough.

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It was Yeah, and that was like weeks, right? That was like a month long that he had to do that. Yeah. A couple times every day was like in the morning, then when he got home from school, and then before he went to bed. Like we're just slowly and slowly, slowly. And it seems fine now. He doesn't seem to have yeah, issues now, right?

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That was hard. And we started allergy shots last week.

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It has not gone well. Poor guy.

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So he we have to drive 40 minutes each way and then sit there for wait until we get in, and then when they do the shots, then we have to wait for 30 minutes to make sure he doesn't react. And then they're like, if he does react, you might you'll have to bring him back here or take him to the emergency room.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

We're not bringing him back.

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The emergency room's 200 bucks, so could we not do that option? Can we just wait a little longer? But like I'm on the way back, a 40-minute drive. I can't turn around and come back.

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Didn't it take like a month and a half or something? Because you were waiting for like the walnut serum or whatever.

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Yeah, was was back ordered, so it was almost yeah, it was probably a month and a half. It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Yeah, so we had uh did he get it was on Friday? Was it Monday?

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Friday was his allergy show.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Right. And then we went to your dad's on Sunday and then we've gone to the ER and was the respiratory therapist that came in?

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Yeah, the respiratory therapist came in in the emergency room.

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And they diagnosed him with the upper respiratory infection.

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Yeah. Yep. But then he has allergy-induced asthma, so it's just made everything worse.

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Respiratory infection with asthma and a reactive airway. Yep. Just need to kind of like like an insulin pump. We just need to like cut some holes, go straight to his lungs and just get some like air pumps to just pop air in.

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Yeah, like right now there's a lot of pollen. So he's the majority of the time he's usually fine. Doesn't need anything. He can run and do whatever. But when he gets this when he was little and would get someone someone would get him sick, and then he I have to write in to his teachers. If he says he can't do something, he can't do it. He can barely breathe to walk. Please do not make him run or participate in any activity. He would love to participate, but if he says he can't, please do not make him. He cannot do it.

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It's fun.

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This is kind of a negative episode, sorry.

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It's gonna end on a positive note though.

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Yep, I'm changing right now.

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Okay.

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So we went to the movie Standout. If you haven't seen that, it's a good show. She said something about how you do anything for your kid. And like with all the doctors saying that they there's nothing wrong with him, just try other things and other things until someone can finally help them. That's anyways.

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Right, you don't give up, you keep going.

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Yeah, you try to find someone who will care.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Yeah. Yeah, that is that's a hard thing. And not to like cut on other people, right? Because their lives are busy, their things are going on. But yeah, so you have to like find someone who cares, but find someone who cares at the right moment. Yes. You may go to a doctor, you may go somewhere and they may be having a bad day. They may be things may be off. And so it's like that perfect you have to find that perfect moment where you have you're there at that opportunity and the other party is also there and present and and ready. So don't be afraid to go back to someone just because you had a bad experience. Like you could Yeah. You can go again, you can try again.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Yeah. Jack is such a good kid now. He's always been kind-hearted. If he accidentally hurts someone, he usually looks like he wants to cry because he feels so bad. Yeah. He's our only kid that you only have to ask him to do something once and he'll do it. You don't ever have to remind him. He always does whatever you ask. All of his teachers love him. Um he's very respectful. He has a lot of faith. When he was going through the bone tumor and the cyst in the jaw, he he would always say, Tell me everything is gonna be fine. Well, what if it's not? I didn't say that to him, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yeah, he's he's had to deal with a lot as a kid in a lot of scary situations as well, like that, right? Like thought that the bone tumor might be like bone cancer, and like we're gonna have to fight that. Ended up being okay. I mean, he still had surgery and all that stuff, right? And then the thing with the jaw, it's just like, man, this poor kid. He's happy, he's smart, he's loving, he's respectful, he's kind, like all the stuff. It's like just give him a freaking break already.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Yeah, right. Um, anyways, that is all I have.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

That's all you have. Anything else?

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

So, Jack, if you're listening, keep going. You're doing great, man. We love you.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

We love you.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Yep. Don't stop, don't feel bad.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

He does feel bad. And I told him, like, we'll sell everything to make you better. It's making you better is what we're here for. All right, remember, even a small act of kindness can be someone's beacon in their darkest moment. Choose kindness every day. Reach out to someone today. You have the power to change a life. Be the signal of hope this world needs to be.