NN - EP10 - From JFK’s Budget Wisdom To Coping, Creativity, And Community

Originally released in April 2020

We open with JFK’s 1963 case for smart federal spending and use it to frame a wide-ranging talk on coping, creativity, and community. We riff on insomnia, media literacy, nostalgia, DIY content, and the joy of small kindness as an antidote to stress.

• JFK’s economic argument on spending, jobs, and growth
• coping with news fatigue and misinformation
• finding joy in music, magic, and DIY creativity
• sleep struggles, melatonin, and routines that help
• nostalgia for Globetrotters, Evel Knievel, and Zappa
• documentaries, archaeology, and the habit of discovery
• building a Roku channel and sustainable community
• gratitude for new patrons and listener participation

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Transcript

JFK On Spending And Jobs

SPEAKER_00 0:00

The President's remarks to the American Society of Newspaper Editors from the Statler Hilton Hotel in Washington, D.C., April 19th, 1963. Mr. President, directors, editors. Two years ago tomorrow, we met in this city at a painful moment in the history of this country and in the history of this administration. I told you then that we intended to profit from this lesson, and I think we have. I told you that we intended to intensify our efforts on behalf of freedom, and I think we have. And I think it's very appropriate that we should do so. Unfortunately, too many of your readers find domestic affairs as baffling as foreign. Government seems too remote, too big, too complex. A tax cut they can understand. But the rest of this year's legislative program seems only a distant blur. They think it's for someone else, not for them. That it's an expense, not an investment. That it could all be cut out without harm to the economy or the nation. And it could be done in the interest of helping a tax cut. The fact of the matter is, if it were not for federal aid, hard-pressed aid and local government, the federal cash budget today would be imbalanced. The federal government is the people, and the budget is a reflection of their needs. There is another aspect of cutting the budget which goes beyond the merits of each individual item. And that is the way in which federal expenditures, in much the same way as federal taxes, help determine the level of activity in the entire American economy. This is not some theoretical abstraction, but a hard historical fact. We all praise tax reduction because it releases money into the private sector. But total federal expenditures. To cut a dollar of expenditures for every dollar of taxes we cut would be to remove with one hand the stimulus we give with the other. Let us understand then that every dollar cut in federal expenditures cuts even more from our gross national product. A cut of five billion dollars now from the proposed federal budget, as many have suggested, would cause one million fewer jobs by the end of the fiscal year. It would offset all the benefits which the tax cut could have brought by then. And if that lower level of expenditures were maintained thereafter, it would eventually cause not only a recession, but an even greater budgetary loss which comes from a recession. Federal spending is not an end in itself. It must be held to reasonable limits that are consistent with the needs of the economy, as well as our country, and the risks of inflation as well as recession. But I am saying that carefully screened and selected federal expenditure programs can play a useful role, both singly and in combination. There will be debate as to detail, there will be differences of dimensions and degree. But I think we should get on with the main task of strengthening the American nation, of opening a road on which all of us can travel, to serve in the future as we have in the past, not only as an inspiration to the world, but also as an example.

Hosts Kick Off With Music Chat

SPEAKER_01 4:18

The original unedited audio recording for this clip is available at JFK Library.org. Look for digital identifier JFK WHA-175-04. Hey, welcome to the show, everybody. I am your host, Larry Compton here with Music Man Mark, also known as M3. You heard from him a little bit earlier, right after the JFK speech. Hey, man, how the hell are you?

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Not bad, man. I missed your text because I had the guitars cranked up. Ha! I was playing Don't Call Us, We'll Call You. I have a fancy pedal that makes my guitar sound like an organ. You know that real song? Yeah, yeah. Pretty active, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

I remember seeing that thing. Yeah. It's so awesome, man.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Fun stuff. I was uh just jamming to uh Dusty Hot Tech West Texas Day and Lapsteel Sample. Gonna have them open up this episode right after JFK, that is. I'm gonna have JFK spread a little, drop a little wisdom.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Yeah. You gotta listen to those things while you're sweating.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Yes?

SPEAKER_03 8:27

You're supposed to listen to it while you're wiping sweat off your brow, looking at the sun, going, man.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

I know. Hey, you know that that video you did, the first one on your YouTube channel there.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Rain song.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

With oh man, the lighting and the way the camera angle that that stuff's just perfect. That's the sort of thing I think we should be, you know, throwing out on the Roku channel.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

Those those are accidents.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Yeah, I I I I I love that sort of thing. I you know what, another friend just the other day sent me a video. His wife uh some months ago bought him uh magic lessons, uh, magician lessons. And and yeah, and so he he was uh teaching for this organization uh last month in March, he said was the first time he ever did anything publicly, you know, as is part of his you know opening or or what have you. And you know, it was well received and a lot of people loved it, and you know, and and so he did a little video. And all his friends, you know, were like, Oh, that's awesome, man. You should do more, you know, you should do one a week or something, you know. So he uh sent sent this one to me, which was the first time I've ever seen him do magic, and uh, my wife and I loved it. Stacy and I just sat there, I just smiled the whole time, and uh and I said him a thing, like, that's awesome. I I want to, you know, I those are the types of things I want to put out. I want to put out smiles, I want to put out creativity, I want to put out, you know, the things that we do to cope. Like like my friend Michelle from high school. This she's an artist, art instructor, very Bob Rossi vibe, you know, just super nice, you know, and informative. Like, you know, could teach you, you know, about art and stuff. It's it's pretty cool stuff. I don't know. I'm still on magic. You're still on magic?

SPEAKER_03 10:21

He probably did the old pull the thumb off trick, didn't he?

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Yep. It was pretty wicked, though. I was like, my wife was immediately she's not, you know, into anything like that. And and she's always skeptical of everything.

Creativity, Magic Tricks, And Making Joy

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Uh, you know, so so as soon as I come up to show her, she's like, Magic. And and he does uh first he does a trick with his pen, you know, and then he does a trick with dice, and then he does uh a card trick. And I just loved it, man. It just made me smile. Love seeing stuff like that. You know what else made me smile? I I told you this morning, man. I I don't know what it is. These weekends are supposed to be when I should be getting stuff done for the show, and I just haven't had it in me. I don't know. You know?

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Something about the world dying around us kind of bums me out a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Bums me out a little. I'm like totally consumed by the speaking of which, that's the whole point of the JFK speech was to talk about, you know, how pissed I got at Jared Kushner, you know. You saw all that, right? The National Stockpile comments and you know, then then the then the National Stockpile website changing, you know, their entire uh mission statement, you know, like moments after. It's just such a such an infuriating thing for me to watch. And a good friend of mine who I work with, you know, said to me, he goes, you know, I w I was thinking the same thing, but then you know, I'm like, well, it's just Jared being Jared. It's just Jared doing what they believe, right? You know, uh less federal government, more states, states have the power, you know, which, you know, that that's I'm not sh he's right. It is just Jared being uh the slum lord millionaire, slum dog millionaire, whatever that that uh dirty money documentary was. That's who they are, you know. So I shouldn't be I shouldn't be getting pissed at Jared Kushner for continuing to be consistently a jackass. Self-centered jackass who has zero way of coping or understanding, even having empathy for anyone, you know, who whose uh family income is you know less than six figures. He can't even chat with those folks. You can't even relate, you know, with folks who make seven figures. It's just not the same lifestyle. So how do you relate? And he followed right in the footsteps of you know step stepdad, or not stepdad, but you know, he probably wishes. Little bitch. Uh anyway, so uh that just infuriated me, but he was absolutely right. I realized he was right. I l le you know lashed out on our our Patreon post about it, and and and then I I spent last Sunday uh hours just listening to JFK speeches all morning. It was awesome. But it helped me cope with it, you know, listening to JFK talk about federal government and his beliefs and that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

So that's why it's in the episode, folks. So Jifk has been making a lot of appearances in our episodes. Who's that? Jifk. Jifk. The dude you're talking about.

Anger At Misinformation And Media

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Oh, and Rifk. Yeah, Rifk was in uh we had Rifk open in an episode. I think we've had Milk open in an episode. We had Teddy, Roosevelt, uh, which my mom and I just chatted about earlier today. That's in this episode as well. Who else have we had? We've had Nixon in an episode. We get presidents, folks. Listen, it's a short list, right? So don't be surprised if your call doesn't make it onto the show. That's all I'm saying. Hey, speaking of good stuff, uh did you see that Fox those those Fox analysts got censored by Twitter for spreading misinformation about coronavirus? No, I'm not sending the news. To to to, you know, Fox, there it's just so wrong to allow that station to be, you know, uh such a significant part of people's news. But in any case, so a couple of just recently, there's been like three or four different episodes, but just recently, uh what a couple weeks ago, or Trish Regan hosted Fox Business and she got booted over the coronavirus impeachment scam comments she made. And then yeah, they just keep getting nutbusted left and right because they're out there, you know, spreading misinformation. It's that blonde-headed chick, the younger blonde-headed chick who's a far right, real, real far right, you know, wacko right chick, and her colleague on Fox, you know, posting misinformation about how this is uh this whole virus situation is nonsense and and a scam, you know, against Trump and all of that. Yes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

When I go to my parents' house and they got that news channel on, yes, I'm the same way with them now as they used to be if they come in my room and caught me smoking or something and look at the phone. I'm telling them, you see, this is what's wrong with you right here. This is what's wrong with you.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

You're sitting here watching this crap all day long with an IV Yup, an IV of Fox News right into your into your arm, man.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

And that's oh, it's crazy, man. It's like it's like uh oh, another thing I saw there, Alex uh crazy ass from InfoWars there.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

How come nobody's killed this guy yet?

SPEAKER_01 16:16

I don't know why he's but I mean I really don't understand the whole Columbine thing, you would think you know, this guy would be buried so deep by now in legal and financial shit that we wouldn't even understand that he existed at some point. But no, he's you know Google banned him, banned the InfoWars Android app over false coronavirus claims as well, you know. So, you know, if your news sources are Fox News and InfoWars, you you got you got big problems. You I mean if that's your that's your channel, just saying. You know.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Anywho my neighbor next door is uh he's always on the wrong side of YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Yes. Wrong side of YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

He was explaining to me how the virus got made by this man who took all the typhoid and plague and stuff and then added a protein to it.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Oh, did he? Oh which one?

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Yes, molecules, man. Next thing you know, boom. Here it is.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Next thing you know, those molecules.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Oh Lord. Hey, did you see uh Curly Neil passed away? I did, yeah, isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_03 17:42

One less Globetrotter. Back when I was a kid, they came to our town out in West Texas, the real Globetrotters, yeah. The ones on the cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Yeah, no, I saw no, I th I I've seen him twice. I think Curly was there both times. I know he was once. I know I saw Metal Ark Lemon once, and I saw the original. Yeah, well, the dude before Metal Ark, dude, man, he was around for so long. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but I know it'll come to me in a minute. It's kind of a so you know I saw this story on Curly and had a little moment, you know, just reminiscing as a kid watching these guys. And then of course the later years uh in watching rewat reruns of uh their their cartoon and the Scooby-Doo uh episodes they were in.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

Particularly the Scooby-Doo episode.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

It was a big thing when they came to town, and they sent tickets to all the schools, you know.

Sleep Struggles, Sedation, And Stress

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Oh, I know. It was it was really cool how they marketed that organization, that that, you know, team and and entertainment, and how they knew so early on, you know, to engage the crowd, get the crowd involved, and just I mean, to this day, I don't know if you've seen the Globetrotters lately. I hadn't until seeing this story. You know, I hadn't paid much attention to them, you know, in adult life, and and so I did some Googling and wow, man, they're still crazy awesome with some crazy awesome characters and crazy awesome personalities. There's a chick that's crazy awesome on the team.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Yeah, I did kind of know that.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

But no, I haven't seen them in many, many years, you know. Yeah, I wouldn't have seen them back then, but you know, I came to the town. I wouldn't like to had Globetrotters t-shirts and was always trying to, you know, emulate them. I wasn't much of a basketball dude, but I was impressed with the theatrics and the comedy.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

I was. I uh yeah, that that's what impressed me most, but it it was even better because I was a basketball. And I think there are reason why I was. And damn, I can't remember the dude's name before Metal Arc, that was so damn charismatic. And so he could be so, you know, a Abrupt, short, very matter-of-factly with his humor about race, you know, and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

I don't know how to it's not poetic. It's its name has a like a rhythm rhythm to it. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

It does. And he he was just I I keep wanting to say Reese or something, but it wasn't Reese.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Oh man, what is that? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I know. But any case, you know, it it was just uh it was a great it's like evil Knievel when you were a kid.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

You know, when I was that's my hero.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

And he wore stars and stripes too. I guess everything that had stars and stripes on it, we're like, I like this.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

I like this shirt.

unknown 20:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

I started worshiping evil Kinevil from 1973 forward. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Jumping my Honda 50 over everything I could jump. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Oh, that's what I should look for, documentary-wise. I should look for more. I haven't seen one on evil in a while. I should look for another one. I've seen a couple on it.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

There's even a funeral on YouTube. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

It's very sad. Hey, you know what? I did watch that Z Z Top and uh one of those ZZ Top documentaries. Did you? Yeah, you told me about. Yeah. That was good.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yeah. It's awesome. And one I watched last night, actually, I watched a couple last night because I couldn't sleep. I haven't slept in two days again, like maybe an hour and a half at most at a time. You know? And so yesterday I took some melatonin towards the end of what you know what was supposed to be my work day. About an hour I I busted out about an hour early because I just hadn't slept. And and uh took some melatonin and laid down and it did absolutely nothing for me.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

It does. It usually does.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

It usually does. It does great. In fact, I've I've sent it to my mom and it's been a huge help. It's no, it's been a huge help to my mom. It's been I just sent some to my sister, but I didn't send them just the straight melatonin like I've taken. I I sent them Nature's Beauty or something like that, I think it's called, but it's a a three-stage release melatonin. And and so you because melatonin doesn't keep you asleep, it just uh it naturally helps you relax to fall asleep.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Yeah, I know. Yeah. See, I I take knockout sauce.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Knockout sauce?

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Knocker loose. Where do you get that? One shot. Well, it's it's benadryl, it's in a liquid form. It's kind of like an it's in a format like Nyquil, but it don't have cold medicine. It's just Benadryl, which is an antihistamine, but it's great for sleep medicine. One shot of that stuff, not only are you knocked out for the rest of the night, you don't have to worry about dreaming or any of that kind of crap. You don't have to worry about dreaming. But with a mind like mine, you have to kill it every night. It don't go to sleep willingly. You have to suffocate it, smother it. So I take a mustalaxer and a shot of that knockout juice.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

That's another thing I just watched, another documentary I just watched the other day, uh the other night was one, you know, on uh celebrity deaths, uh, celebrities that have died early, you know, had all the usual suspects. Michael Jackson and you know, Prince and Elvis and you know, blah, blah, blah. It was like the top ten, uh Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison. And so, you know, is I'd probably seen this thing before. Certainly I'd seen stories on all of them before, but listening to the stuff about how much the the Michael Jackson was taking, you know, his doctor was administering the night he he died. It's absolutely insane, man. It's absolutely insane.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Uh you know, propofol banners is that milk it knocks you out. That's what they used. See, my brother was on life support one time, and yeah, they use that. Or when you have a colonoscopy, they use it to sedate you with that too.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

So it's easy to bring you back out of it. They can knock you out and then bring you right back out.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

But this this guy, you know, Dr. Conrad there for or whatever, fought fought, you know, fought Michael on it that night, you know, supposedly for hours. And then finally gave in, gave him some pro and then, and then uh sometime later gave him some Valium.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Yep. And then later gave him some more propanol. Yeah. I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

You reached the top of the ladder.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

That's what I don't understand, is like, why would you keep I mean, it's just so crazy.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

But you know, it's not something you get a shot of, it's something you get an IV of. And then when you stop administering it, then you can wake them up. Well, you have to be uh yeah, an anesthesiologist to even Yeah, it's just not like a single shot that they inject and you're good. Right. No, it's a bottle of yeah, constant.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

You know, it's it's one of those things, sleep and getting to sleep. And I think with all the you know, stress of the news and this pandemic and everything, I think people are starting to uh have more problems sleeping. I know at least my family has. You know, Stacy and I are on completely opposite body clocks. So and that's partially because you know, Ryan's body clock is completely opposite of mine because I'm up, you know, I work East Coast hours, so I get up super early, you know, usually between four and and and five, and you know, they're still awake.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

You know I get up between four and five to piss.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

And then, you know, I'm you know, at the end of my uh East Coast hours, you know, three three hour time uh here on the West Coast, you know, then then I'm like in between uh gears, like because I transition into my evening, you know, agenda and to-do lists and personal stuff and side business stuff and podcast stuff and website stuff, and I transition into that stage. And uh there's uh that period of between three and three thirty where I need like a 20-minute nap.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Yeah, I got another friend that naps.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

I don't do it enough. I think I should do it.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

I I couldn't I take a nap, I can't come out of it, man. That's like taking a quailute.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

I would never I'd be the whole day be run because I couldn't, you know, I'd get get up and still be groggy and I know. Yeah, I'm not a nap dude, man. I'm either up or down.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

I know mostly up.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

It takes a lot to knock me down. I pass out for a few hours a night. I try to get in bed by midnight and sleep till eight. If I can do that, I'm a happy guy.

Nostalgia: Globetrotters, Evel Knievel, Zappa

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Right. That's a lot. Eight hours, like I've never had eight hours a night consistently for you know, two days in a row for many years. You know, I just don't. I sleep an average of four to six hours, and sometimes that's broken up, you know, in different parts of the day.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Just about mentioned to you, I achieve this through sedation.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

Right.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

My brain will go asleep willingly, it has to be drugged.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

So at eleven o'clock I take a shot of the juice and take my meds, and then by midnight, hopefully I'm drowsy.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Is this another organ thing like the uh the the the uh put yourself to you know do yourself in juice?

SPEAKER_03 27:09

No man, it's exclusive to me. I don't follow the crowd, I'm I'm gonna lead it.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Did I send you a follow Did I send you a picture of my new smoothies on the truck? Did you see that? Oh, you did, you did. I know I need to wash the damn thing, but I like I was so I just didn't have it in me this morning. I didn't want to uh write, I didn't want to read, I didn't want to do jack shit. But again, I I didn't sleep all night, so I just wasn't in the mood to work on the show and sat there in the garage looking at that truck, going, man, I'm so damn lucky, you know. I should get off my ass and get on with I mean it's beautiful outside too. That always helps, you know. It's been windy as shit, but beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

Yeah, it's very windy today. It was kind of yesterday. I took a ride on my bike out by the river on my scooter.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 28:11

Yeah. It was nice. It was funny though. I stopped by the river because I had to take a huge piss. I parked the bike, you know, and I got on, I've got on clothes, the jacket, I got the leather jacket, I got my helmet, gloves, shit like that. I don't know what got in me. I was underneath a juniper tree taking a leak. I don't know what went down my shirt, but it got in the middle of my back and started stinging the living shit out of me. And the only way to access this is to immediately stripping down all these layers of clothes that are tight. Got zippers and shit. Oh, and I'm in the middle of the road, I'm coming out of stuff, mad, anything, I got my hoodie and my t-shirt and my jacket, you know, everything. People think you're still laying on the ground trying to reach behind me. What the fuck's on me? And I still couldn't see it. So I just ran over to the tree and ran my back into it and started scratching like a bear.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Mark's having convulsions again.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Oh my god, I'm not happy.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

I love walking onto my back deck. I I I can only imagine what my neighbors think because you know you walk out there and then all of a sudden a bee comes down and swoops, and you're all like, ah, nips and fit out of nowhere. Yeah. The other thing I've taken to doing uh with Stacy lately is is I fill in uh conversations if we see somebody outside out the window as they're walking by or whatever, you know, I'll just uh you know make up conversation for them between each other.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Oh yeah, narrate for you. Yeah, look boring. Spice up for your life and narrate.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

And the pets. We do the same with the pets.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

Well, he passes unaware.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Well, he passes unawares. Little Zappa, man, that's something I haven't heard in a while.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Oh man, you gotta get regular doses of Zappa. I know. I still get Joe's Garage, man, because that's just that's just so the memories of that. Of us listening to that, sitting in the bedroom in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Oh, Joe's Garage. That was a great album, man. The White Zone is for loading and unloading only.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

I had when I was on there, I was on a watching a video the other day on YouTube of it, and some guy had commented, I forget what he had said, but I put on there, I put a question, I go, what was the white zone? No, we wasn't watching the zappa video. We were watching something else, and the dude was reminded of a zappa video of the uh song If you've been modified.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

It's a token of my extreme, remember? Yes. And so I commented his comment, I said, okay, what was the white zone for and who goes all the way? Answer those two questions, buddy. You know Zap Alvin, you can't answer those questions what the white zone is for and who goes all the way.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Did he get it?

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Who goes all the way? I'll give you the answer. It's the gay rubberized bob doll.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Did he get it?

SPEAKER_03 31:24

I don't know how it looked back to see if he answered.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Well, man, listen to you. You're getting all here. I am disconnecting from social media, and you're getting all social media.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

Well, I'm doing it very carefully, man, because yeah, you uh because yeah, people pursue you. I don't want to be pursued. I don't want to be pursued either. Leave my little mess and then run away. I never look for fame and fortune.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yeah. No, it's more trouble than that.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

That's why I do headless videos most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Well, that's what I appreciate about it.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

I got some videos coming up, they're gonna be my pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

See, that's what I appreciate about it. I love the anonymity. And even though I have problems saying it, I love it. It's it to me is the it's like you know, the incredibles, right? It's your superpower, man. Being able to remain anonymous. So I those are the people I look for those anonymous people everywhere. Like, you know, I'll see somebody and be like, hey, what if they're you know, whatever, a rocket scientist that does this, that, and the other thing, right? And they're just, you know, working evenings here at this uh hardware store or what have you. You know what I mean? Because you don't know, and uh most uh true heroes are working in the shadows and not tootin their horn.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

As I age, you know, I'm about to be 55 in a few months, and um I work on my old guy look.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Yes. Oh, I do.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

I want to have a good old guy look. I don't want to have just like, yeah, he's nothing. I want to have that look you're like, right?

unknown 32:55

Right.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Stand out. It's an old guy, but you got an old guy look about you that you're like, right on.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Right. Yeah, hey, that's an old guy.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

That's not I like to portray the kind of grumpy one always mumbling and grappling.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Yes, I love the the whole red form and persona of that is that is uh something I've tried to adopt and improve upon. My my problem I was just chatting. I don't know. I'm so much like you know, a woman. It it it's crazy. Emotions, too.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

Yeah, yeah, I know, man. I know. We'd be like a good couple.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

But um, seriously, I was just saying last night something, and Stacy goes, Well, you're not a whatever. She saw somebody that was, you know, feminine that she didn't uh find, you know, find attractive, that everybody else finds attractive. And I said something, and she said, Yeah, you're you just have emotions. You're not you have feelings, you're not feminine. Like, yeah, that was very compassionate. Thank you. I appreciate the vote of confidence.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Damn it, see that don't drag me into that shit. That love shooting out of your chest and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Don't drag me into that. Oh, we forgot to comment about Pussy Galore, man. Yeah, yeah, she's Pussy Galore. 94. Honor Black Men who played no more. Bond's Pussy Galore died at 94. That's a shame. That was an incredible movie. In fact, another thing, you know, is just fascinating going back and learning and seeing like behind the scenes on some of these historic movies and stuff. Those are the types of things that I don't know, I find interesting. I'm weird like that.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

I was just impressed back when I was a kid, and that movie was you know young. Uh-huh. And uh I was tripping out on Flactic, wow, they found a creative way to say pussy on TV, and it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

Exactly, exactly. It's a person's name. Exactly. Hey, speaking of pussy galore, my mom did I tell you the other day.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

She has it too, huh?

SPEAKER_01 35:10

No, the other day, my mom's always telling me, you know, yeah, I should get a she said, well, not always, she said it a couple times and jokingly, and and then Stacy and I got a crack uh, you know, a chuckle out of it. But she says, you know, you should have a daytime wife. And you know, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. So the other day, uh first time, like this third time she said it, but she says, uh, you know, usually maybe you should have two. And I'm like, I like the way you think, mom. Yes. I appreciate your support. Uh I'm working on that with Stacy.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Uh Stacy just pussy galore.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

That's like that. See, I I don't I don't know if it, you know, because the Stacy doesn't put up with a lick of my shit. Never has. Which is what, you know, I immediately was attracted to. She does not, you know, give a shit. She, you know, you you know, you know she is around. I mean, she'll act like I'm not even in the room if talking to her.

Life Riffs, Anonymity, And Old-Guy Swagger

SPEAKER_03 36:13

My wife's been doing that a lot lately too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Oh dead.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Never mind.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

But I I I don't know what it is. I like making people smile. I like I I find, you know, uh have just found so much here lately to be happy about. So it's weird to have these weekends where I'm, you know, drowning in uh documentaries and wanting to sit on my ass and not do things that I enjoy, like be creative with the audio podcast and stuff. You know, and what got me out of it today was going to the post office box to check my mail, you know, and seeing uh the cutie that works there and you know, flirting. She's such a sweetheart. But, you know, here's the thing, folks. Uh I find the sweethearts everywhere. Like I was I told you about the blonde at the grocery store the other day, right? Yes. What was her name? Shalina. I think. Super cute. You know, did you ever watch King of Queens?

SPEAKER_03 37:14

That I'm aware of it. I haven't seen it in a long, long, long time, but yeah, I'm aware of the show.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

That's why we watched it, because we hadn't seen it in a long, long, long time. So Stacy and I binged, you know, a ton of episodes in the middle of the night. Um, but anyways, they have an episode on there where you know he he comments about another female or something, and then she, you know, she gets jealous. It's just just hilarious. In any case, that that's that's the way I am. I mean, I don't let many people in my inner circle, right? But once you get in my inner circle, uh you know flirtetious. I am flirty.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

I've known you many, many years. Yes, I know.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

And you know, so it's it's you know, but but it like I said, there's not many that get in my inner circle. So but the this chick at at the UPS store is just a a a doll, probably in her mid-twenties, you know, super sweet to everybody. I never we would never say I would never say two words to her, but every time I see her, she's always smiling, always perky, always being, you know, that super cute, polite person. And so I go to Ace Hardware and I find one there, and then I go to Fred Meyer, and there's one, a lady there, you know, it's the same way. It's just like I just see so much positivity and so so much, you know, uh from everyone. It's kind of crazy. Like just a smile, how it can change somebody's entire day, you know, or acknowledging them, saying hello. You know, it's really crazy. But it works for me. The what I found works best is me actually complimenting somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

That makes me feel good.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

Uh you know what I mean? It does, it makes me feel good because I number one, I mean it. I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. I rarely, you know, am outgoing enough to compliment to a stranger or talk to a stranger to begin with. So but I do, you know, compliment people occasionally. And it makes that's I enjoy it. It makes me feel good. That's like tipping waitresses, right? I that makes me feel good if you've done your job and I I see you putting in effort or going above and beyond, you know. That makes me feel good to be able to tip you. You know?

unknown 39:33

No.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

I complimented somebody's clothes the other day, and I was like, his clothes look great. In fact, the fact that you're kind of ugly, it's like totally disappears. Is that a compliment? On the clothing, maybe not so ugly.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Oh man. I had just taken a swig of coffee, man.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Oh, cool. That happens.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

I almost blew that one all over the all over the computer screens.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

I remember one time that I spewed tequila in your face from a spit take. We're sitting in my house, the apartment in North Carolina, drinking that old cheap Pepe Lopez. And I took a shot and you said something funny, man, but you got a missed misted face. Sitting at the kitchen table there. I don't know if you remember in the apartment. Doesn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

I don't remember, but I I do remember drinking Pepe there.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

I don't remember that, but yes, good times.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

I remember that pool at that that's the apartment complex. You had the pool. Right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. We got in trouble at that pool.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

Yes, we did, sir.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

But I was a pool rat like when for a while there. Back back back then, I would like the apartment that I had with Carol. Remember, had that we had that pool there, and I was constantly tanning. Man, I was like a bronze in the summer. Yes. Out playing basketball and oiled up like Travis Johnson.

unknown 41:15

You know.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Oh God. Yeah, I remember Hercules.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Travel baby oil up and be outside just flexing, you know.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Yeah. That guy used to crack me up, man. He was good for humor. He was. He still is. He was so he loved himself and it was great.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, I know. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Make his little titty muscles bounce up and down.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Exactly. That's why I love characters.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

I love people. Yes. You know, that's why I was just talking to mom about Teddy Roosevelt saying, you know, that's what I love characters. I love people who have character, who are not afraid to be themselves, or not afraid, you know, to be honest, blunt, don't give a shit about following the crowd, you know, and almost always put everybody else first, you know. Not that they can't be humans.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

They're humans, man.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Right? Like uh Bill Murray, that movie St. Vincent, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

That movie cracks me up.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Because it's like a red foreman and you and me and a few people mixed together, man, that just it's so it's so hilarious. I don't know. Have you ever seen that one?

SPEAKER_03 42:26

I can't no, I guess I have. Is it new?

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Oh, no. That's been uh Melissa McCart McCarthy, I think. Bill Murray, and then there's a young kid that plays the lead that that was just great in it. What was the other thing I watch? I just so I did the DeLorean thing last night. Well, I I seems like I just watched some oh I watched some old movie from 2010, I can't remember the name of with Stacy that was a Mel Gibson movie. She does not like him. She almost I don't we I never sit still long enough for movies, you know, so it was very oh sorry, it's very rare that I would do that, but we we just happened to uh put it on, you know, last night and I uh ended up watching the entire damn thing.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

So I watched the good, the bad, the ugly. Ah movie.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Yes, and I watched Sawshank Redemption the other day.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

Barney Miller. I watched an episode of the Jeffersons the other day. Uh that's what I love about I I record all that stuff, all the old episodes. Like I got like a hundred episodes of Barney Miller recorded. I limit most of them, but but not Barney Miller. I let him record every dang episode. Uh and it's crazy, man. We have more things to watch, more ways to watch now than ever, and we watch less. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

You know, I don't even have yeah, I don't have any kind of typed in TV or so forth.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

I mean, we don't have cable either.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

Netflix, and I'm good.

Building A Roku Channel And Community

SPEAKER_01 44:06

Yeah. And and you know what's even more interesting, you know, I've never really, I guess, stepped back and looked at, but I'm not a TV person. I'm a documentaries person.

SPEAKER_03 44:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

That sort of thing. But uh but uh and sitcoms. I love sitcoms or stand-up comedy. But in any case, i i it I forgot what was so fascinating. I forgot where I was going.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Well the fact that we could do all this if we wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Uh what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 44:38

All this technology. Oh, you said we can watch anything we want, but we already watched less.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yes, yeah, we could watch anything we want to.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

We can make ourselves our own movie stars though these days. If you want to be a star, we can put the work in and uh get your ass on YouTube and well that's just it.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

And that's there you go. That might have had something to do with it. Uh by the way, the Roku channel, I think, is gonna be I I haven't been dinking with it much, but I've got the app built and and essentially just need to figure out what I want to do with content because I want I you know, like everything, I want to do it for free. But I also want to be able to pay for, you know, expenses and maybe some of our time someday, that sort of thing, if we can. So I'm trying to think of like a tiered sort of thing, like where it's a free channel, you know, and what do we provide for free? And then if you upgrade, what do you get? You know, same same with the Patreon community type of thing. Most of these types of things, the community and the Roku channel, would be done, you know, two, three years or or at least after you establish your audience by most shows. Most most you know, legitimate shows. But but me, I knew my goals, my objectives, and despite even the platform like a Patreon's like, you shouldn't create until you have your audience. You know, I'm like, no, screw that. Because I know what I'm doing. I'm not looking to build an audience of everybody and anybody. And you know, I I want people that I want to talk to and want to listen to to be a part of the audience and be a part of the community. You know what I mean? I don't want to blast it out on social media anymore. I just wanted people to know where I'd be because I'm not gonna be on social media other than LinkedIn. Me neither.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Yeah, well$300, you can get three hours of me. Really? Well, that's my fee.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_03 46:33

Oh yeah, like if I go, somebody wants me to play a gig. Nice music, what have you? Nice. Well, my acoustic kind of deal, you know, play some songs, sing, make jokes.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

I'm telling you, you know, as long as it's not like copyrighted stuff, you know, we can do pretty much. I mean, Ryan and his friends, like a while back, they did wanted to start up a YouTube channel and did some videos, but didn't end up launching the channel, but of of some cards they collect and and stuff. And you know, I I don't know. I got like I said, I got so many friends that are so freaking talented, and I just want to put out stuff I like, stuff I find interesting, people I like, people I find interesting, that sort of thing. So that's probably where we're gonna start.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

When summer gets here, I'm gonna see I have my old hobby of artifact hunting. I'm an amateur archaeologist for years and years, but I'm gonna start filming my artifact hunts. Not the whole thing, but you know, when I come up on one, I'm gonna leave it there and fire up the camera and uh, you know, let us all discover it together. Yes. Yes. It's a lot of fun because sometimes you barely can see them sticking out. So it's good to just film it for a minute and see if you can spot the artifact.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:54

And then pluck it from the ground and see what it is. Is it whole? Is it gonna be broken? You know, all those questions that prevail.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Right. I was just watching a documentary on Jamestown, you know, the original colony of Jamestown, not uh James. You know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

I do, yeah, Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Yeah. Uh and and so I was watching uh It was before the pilgrims even so you know it just fascinating stuff, man. But I was watching that they thought the original, you know, site had been Run over by the River and blah blah blah, but turns out it hadn't. And so I watched the digs and the you know sh stuff uh in this documentary. It's pretty fascinating, man. It's really crazy, you know, because they're trying to identify, you know, like the original founders and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Uh I love that stuff, huh? I know in Texas, I was in amateur archaeological club.

SPEAKER_04 48:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

I've been into it a lot. I used to go around to schools and give talks to kids. I've talked at museums. Right. I make arrowheads also. Well, you're in that make them in the fashion and so I show how that's done at schools and so forth.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

But you did that, you were uh in that one book too. You helped with that.

SPEAKER_03 49:09

Oh, yeah, I guess. I made a type all a book identification guide for the area in Texas where we lived. Right.

SPEAKER_04 49:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

We had all these farmers bring in their artifacts from all around from in our county. We photographed the best pieces, and I identified them as to what they're called and the age of them and so forth. And then we made this book, and then everybody that brought artifacts in got a book for free, but then we sold them for$35 to anybody else that just wanted one.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Right.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

So that way you can identify what you're finding there around our area.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Right.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

Yeah. Made the hobby more special.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

Oh, it does. It's fascinating stuff, man. I love I just love, you know, it's weird because when I was a kid, a young kid, before I became a teenager, I did not find history interesting. You know, not real. I yeah, I I just didn't pay attention. I didn't really find it that interesting until I was, you know, older. And then, of course, like when we went to school, when you and I were going to uh Fateville Community College. Yeah, at that point, yeah, at that point, you know, I I'm like, I'm loving this. I want to learn everything I can.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

I took the English class, I took a Spanish class with that sucked.

SPEAKER_04 50:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

They don't like people from Texas or Mexicans. The Spaniards was teaching the class, and he thought Texas Spanish was like slang.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Oh, that's another one I just saw again, another Alamo uh documentary.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

Uh yeah. Davy Crockett one. I know more about the Alamo than ever we learned Texas history before we learn American history.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 50:52

That's in seventh grade. In eighth grade, you get American history. The Republic is first.

Artifact Hunting And Love Of History

SPEAKER_01 50:57

Well, it should, you know, I mean, that that see, that's a whole nother fascinating thing, right? To me. That that a lot of people just aren't aware of, younger generations, even our generations aren't, you know, don't recognize uh the significance of you know our westward move in that that you know particular battle, you know, is absolutely crazy stuff. Fascinating stuff to me. All right, man. I'm gonna go throw some more coffee on or water and bust out the Bailey's and start doing some editing.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Enjoy. Word. Have a good one. All right, I'll see ya. All right, later. And now random moments with Larry's mom.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Hey, I was wondering if you were gonna answer.

SPEAKER_05 51:49

I I sing to Beverly Hills, California.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

Yes, uh, you know, you know how I roll uh Beverly Hills, Beverly Hill billies, like Yeah What are you doing? Oh just nothing, a lot of nothing. How about you?

SPEAKER_05 52:10

Same thing.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

Yeah. It's pretty beautiful out here today. The wind's blowing like crazy, but the sun is out.

SPEAKER_05 52:18

Well that's here. The sun's out, but the wind's cold.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

Yeah. Yeah. Can you hear me okay?

SPEAKER_05 52:25

Yep. How's Day?

SPEAKER_01 52:26

She's doing good. She's sleeping, still on opposite body clocks.

SPEAKER_05 52:33

How come you scrap the California number?

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Oh, that's that's for my show. That's uh the number for Yeah, I haven't been feeling like doing much of anything on the weekends, which is when I'm supposed to be doing my show and the last two weekends. I don't know if it's just reading all the news I read and all of that stuff or what, but I have watched some great documentaries. I I couldn't sleep again last night and watch some documentaries.

SPEAKER_05 53:08

Um kinda last night, I don't know, must have been about five o'clock, I had to turn on the weather channel. And it was the world's funniest weather thing.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

Yeah. Yeah, I love this. Yeah, that's what I do. I love watching that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:32

Just love it.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

I know, I know. Yeah, uh, it's it's it's actually refreshing to me. What uh the documentaries are the same way, but anything, you know, that's not scripted, that's not planned, that's not you know, some of that stuff is good too. Like this one documentary I watched yesterday. Do you remember Dag Hammershall, the UN Secretary General? Do you remember when he died in 61? He was in a plane crash in the Congo and he was going down there to do some negotiations. But anyways, I, you know, I have kind of been aware, of course, of the stories and and rumors about, you know, he was killed and this, that, and the other thing. And I came across a documentary, Cold Case Hammerschult. And I think it was on Netflix. And oh, it was so fascinating. The guy did it really well too. He's a very clever uh British guy that you know it's part documentary. There's it's is r it was really interesting how he did it. And then I I I watched another one on uh John DeLorean last night when I couldn't sleep.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_05 54:54

You know?

SPEAKER_04 54:55

Oh, I love his story.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

Couldn't change the channel, it was just all about Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah, oh I just love his story.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:07

You know. Oh, really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 55:09

I've watched everything I can find on the Roosevelts. It's just so fascinating, the characters. And his Teddy in particular, uh, has always fascinated me because he always bucked, you know, the norm. He always stood his ground and, you know, had integrity. And despite all of the things he had going for him, you know, he wasn't uh he was so down to earth.

SPEAKER_05 55:30

And and and that's quite a you know quite a large family too.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

Yeah, yeah. And and then how long did he live out in the middle of nowhere?

SPEAKER_05 55:40

Was that in the what I that was probably in the first part, you know. Yeah the first half hour or so or fifteen minutes because I was switching around and just happened to catch it. So once I listened to it for a few minutes, I just left it off because I thought it was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

It's just so fascinating.

SPEAKER_05 56:06

You know.

SPEAKER_04 56:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:09

Just to show how that he was president, you know. Well, maybe they'll have the second part to it, but they didn't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

Right. Which uh that's a whole nother second part. That would have been a well I wonder, do you remember what program was it what channel or what program did it?

SPEAKER_05 56:29

Uh yeah, I think it was channel uh might have been channel seven.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

I mean, was it like uh PBS or something?

SPEAKER_05 56:42

I think it was let me see, uh PBS.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, that's PBS is ours. Yeah, that's uh see I subscribe uh I subscribe to the Smithsonian channel because we don't we don't watch cable we don't have cable TV anymore, you know, just the broadcast and internet stuff. So but I subscribe, I pay for a subscription to Disney Plus for they have Nat Geo as part of Disney Plus, and I love that. Plus we we were you know, we're fans of the Star Wars movies, and I love Pixar and some classic Disney stuff, so 60 bucks a year uh for Disney. Then Smithsonian channel I pay for separately is another sixty bucks a year.

unknown 57:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 57:30

But that that's a so that's you know a year. So that's five bucks a month for each, you know.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

So Well, that's why you don't have you know three hundred thousand savings.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

That's exactly right.

Random Call With Mom And Documentaries

SPEAKER_01 57:46

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