Sacramento Beer Week and 2019 Sacramento Beer Passport

This week the lads discuss Sacramento Craft Beer week which is underway. Jaxon visited Geisthaus and At Ease while Mark visited Capital Beer and Tap. Then, they breakdown the Sacramento Craft Beer Passport from June 2019! Will they find a hidden gem to visit? Will they lament the fallen breweries that no longer grace the craft beer scene? Probably, but why not listen anyway huh? 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Yeah. Um, happy hours. Why are they more than an hour long? They're always now.

SPEAKER_03 0:07

Everyone deserves a happy hour. They're just catering to the hour that you feel happy. Like, I literally paid for about an hour of parking, and we were happy for like an hour.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Okay. I mean, the thing is, like, it was when it went to Fox and Goose, their happy hours from four to six. Like, that's those are happy hours. Call it happy hours. We don't need happy hour.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

But it's more like it's it's a perspective thing, right? It's it's your happy hour, but we're gonna give you some flexibility when you do it.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

I guess. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

I I'm unless you're some kind of glutton and you're like, I need happy hours.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

But that's what they do. They give you the ability to be that glutton.

SPEAKER_03 0:46

So if they're in America just is America.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Call it happy hours. I want happy hours. That's all I've got to say about I had a 20-ounce Imperial pint of Guinness, which is delicious. And then I had the uh this uh this English pale ale that was also on nitro. Um two pints, two two Imperial twenty ounce pints for for twelve bucks total. I think, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

Two pints sounds like a uh a craft beer parody wrapper.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Rapper. Two pints um but yeah, I mean you said you went to Happy Hour at Bach.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

I did, and I had and I rarely do this. I got the same beer twice because it was so damn good, and it was their one of their hop series. God, I'm blinking on it, but um the profile, which is what caught my eye, was blueberry resin passion fruit. And god damn it, if it didn't have some blueberry in it. Like not not like you're thinking, you know, kettle sour or like smoothie sour blueberry, but like just that that fruit hint that you get from hops, and it was a phenomenal West Coast. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Uh so I had to it's it's wild what those hops can do under the most you know normal situations. Like, why all of a sudden does this taste like it do?

SPEAKER_03 2:10

It it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Some some have to do with the acids.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

Some some something something agriculture, something, something science, something, something delicious.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Beetle, I don't know if you can hear him, he's just yelling. I I heard a yell. Yeah, Mike show up on the if you're listening and you hear a cat in the background, that's that he's fine. He likes to hear himself talk. Um, and because we know that he likes to hear himself talk, that's a good time to to welcome you to the Beer Me Cast. Thank you for tuning in and listening to the Craft Beer Podcast. My name is Jackson, and I'm copy by Mark. Definitely know. Uh how are you doing today, sir? How's it?

SPEAKER_03 2:52

It's a good day. It's a good day. It's one of those days where uh, you know, work work wraps up pretty neatly, and uh you go out for a happy hour and you eat oysters and chicken and have beer, and then you just have a great day.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

I think did you do happy hour the last time we recorded, and then you're like tired?

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Like I think we're starting like Yeah, what uh yeah, guys, you know, I I like to pre-game this is your beer me cast.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Um I mean, because you gotta pre-game because it's not like we're gonna do like beer of cast. What's we're not gonna do? We're gonna do beer of cast.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

This is not my beer of cast. Um, this was the cold open beer I was enjoying while watching basketball before the cast. This is the Fat Tire ale, a a phenomenal, phenomenal ale.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

I was doing uh chores around the house, so now I'm having my beer. My first beer, my Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:45

Did you get that when we're at CapTap? Is that the one I recommended? So You know, honestly though, I can as an aside, I'll let you intro, but uh I I I have thoughts on your choosing of this beer, and I want to know if you've been in air conditioning all day.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Uh yeah, I have. I have been in air conditioning uh all day. Uh so this is the um this is the uh epoch. It's uh by uh Narrative Fermentations. It's an Imperial stout with coconut, vertigo coffee, cacao, vanilla beans, and milk sugar. It's at 11.3%. And we picked this up from CapTap. We were at CapTap not too long ago, drinking beer, uh, and uh Mark told me that this was a beer to get. And um narrative fermentation out of San Jose, I've never had a beer from. And why not kick it off with a monster stout?

SPEAKER_03 4:48

They are ones who've whose only exposure I've had is is CapTap, and I feel like it smells incredible. I feel like I need to go there.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

I need to just let it have its time with the smell. Holy crap. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:25

Jackson uh just threw his hands in his air. He he he had a moment where he tasted it. It processed, it it took his brain a moment to process, and his hands went up. Jackson, how are you feeling about said beer?

SPEAKER_02 5:45

It is good. Oh, that's not that's not fair. Beer good. It is a balance. It's a balance of the flavors. You get the aroma of the coconut and you taste it. But you get the cacao vanilla. You get a little bit of the sugar, the milk sugar sweetness, but almost more so the texture. Because even at 11.3, it's smooth. And the coffee bitterness, along with just the the beer itself, the the Imperial Imperial stout, the nature of it being what it is, flows together so nicely, but each of those stand out from each other in a way that paints this really nice journey. Like you you get to it, you look at it first, and it's it's motor oil. And you smell it, it's like fresh coconut. Like it just smells like the freshest coconut, and then it it hits with like, oh, this is Imperial Stout. It's thick, but it's got a nice bitterness to it. But because of the the complexity of the flavors that are happening and the sweetness, it all forms this flavor of deliciousness. Like, I I want to know epoch means.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Because I wonder if it's if if that maybe is like a descriptor for like the beam, but it's uh I believe it relates to epic journey. It's like a mythology thing now.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yep, that makes sense. Epic journey.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Yeah, wait, an epoch is a specific fixed date and time uses a reference point to measure time, or significant new period in history.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

So Today marks a new period of history where I now know what they're doing. Any beer I've had up until this point was a beer that I had until I had epoch. Every beer I have going past it is a beer I've had after having epoch.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Your epoch epoch.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Yeah, this is now everything is uh everything that's happened up till now was before epoch BE, and everything is after epoch AE. Uh this is day zero. Um I need a I need to I need to rate it. What do you say?

SPEAKER_03 8:17

Um this is one of the best beer recommendations I've ever given you.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Yeah, yeah, easy, easy, easy, easy. Um I give it a ten.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

I have another one in my fridge as well because of uh this this exact moment.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah, I I'll give it a ten, and I need to give the rest of it to someone else to try. So um I will be right back. You talk about the the beer a little bit, just for a second.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

I mean, uh so the reason I recommended this to to Jackson, um, you know, I I I think many of us in the craft beer realm are the type who sees a delicious stout with adjuncts and we think, hmm, a cold night or you know, just just a nice nice relaxing evening that you want to sip on a beer. Well that that looks like a sip and beer. And it looked like a sip and beer. You know, wasn't crazy expensive. You went, you you bought the beer, I brought it home, and I I shared with my wife, and we were both uh quite blown away by this beer. I mean as as he said, the coconut is a very nice front to this. And overall, very drinkable for an Imperial Stout. I mean, it doesn't leave you feeling like you, you know, drank something way too sweet. It doesn't make you feel uh overly cloyed, like it's it's just a really good adjunct Imperial Stout, and it's very drinkable and it's very well balanced. So uh overall, narrative fermentations, if you see if you see this beer out in the wild, I highly recommend.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Um if you see this at CapTop, um you don't want it, just uh message the the cast that there's some there, and we'll take we'll we'll figure out what to do with it.

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Um the reason I did ask you, have you been in air conditioning all day? Because we were out and about today and it was a warm one. You know, I I felt a little bit, you know, I'm wearing my jeans and my my black light cotton tea, and you know, I was getting a little sweat on eating some spicy chicken. So like in my brain, when I saw you pour that, I was like, ugh, that is not the day for that, but yeah, it wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

I've been up and moving around, but I was inside uh doing a lot of cleaning and and whatnot, and I did have to to change into cooler clothes. But I mean at the same time, I was just like I I I was in the mood for something a little bit more intense, a little more intense, a little bit more complex, something that um was dark.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

And this was like it's nice to have something dark in the fridge. It is, it's nice to have something you want to sip on in the fridge. I do have um some other dark beers in there, but um other approachable price point, an approachable available can, like for just a not a not a shelf offering, but for something that's pretty decently distributed and something that doesn't seem doesn't seem very scarce, it is a phenomenal beer. I mean, this is the kind of beer you want to produce where you know narrative fermentation is something I've seen on shelves, but this is a beer that grabbed my attention, and now I want to try more.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

If they have this available often, wow. To brew a beer that's this complex.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Yeah, intense, complex. I mean, the balance, I think you you described it well, is it is such a good balance.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Yeah, no, and that's a that's a thing that a lot of Imperial Stouts get wrong, especially barrel-aged outs. It's it's a lot harder for barrel-aged outs to get right where it's balanced and not in a way that is too blended. Because you can get like an Imperial Stout, aged and burned barrels with coconut, all and all this stuff. Um, that freaked me out, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Um it scared me too.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Again, I thought I thought it was me. I thought someone was behind me. Um uh but they'll have all of this, including being barrel aged, and then you take a sip and it's like one flavor because it's all molded together into one thing, which can be good, but like it's a cohesive vision in a beer, and that's a bad thing to enjoy. Individual but yet together the way this has, without one thing dominating and making other things seem too minimum, because there are like the coconut does dominate a bit, but in a good way, because it is such a I don't even know the right way to describe coconut. It's the way it plays off of the stout coffee flavors, it's like a different area of the palate in a way. So even though it's stronger, those other things kind of like rise up. Yeah. But what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_03 13:01

So I uh I I I started my day with uh, you know, started my morning 5 30, went into work, rushed rushed some paperwork, came back around lunchtime, had some leftover part of Bella Burger. We started to hit a happy hour since I had an early end to my day, and uh, you know, had some some delicious natural hot chicken from Bach by Urban Roots. Shout out Bach, shout out Urban Roots. We've talked to them about them, obviously. Um Yeah, they've they've had plenty of my money, uh wedding visitation, so on and so forth. But Bach, phenomenal happy hour, big chicken, and phenomenal IPA. Um I'm I'm blanking on the name. It was some kind of hop work series they had going uh just a phenomenal West Coast with some natural hot chicken. I had a very warm day. So when I saw Jackson Poor Dark Beer, I was like, that is not what I'm feeling. Uh today when I visited Whole Foods, I reached for, and something I've actually been reaching for a lot more lately is um Shred Brewing has been doing a bunch of collabs. This is uh Shred and Cellarmaker, their Hash Bandicoot, uh phenomenal, phenomenal play on words, phenomenal logo. That's a good one. Yeah, Crash Bandicoot, Hash Bandicoot, I mean for all the all the 90s kids. You're gonna enjoy the the play. But uh when I grab a shred beer, or a cellar maker for beer for that example, I am thinking haze. And uh, Jackson, you tell me, is that hazy?

SPEAKER_02 14:35

Uh no, I can see right through to the to the is that a GFL logo?

SPEAKER_03 14:40

It it it very much is, sir. Uh in all.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

I can see right through to the GFL logo.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

My uncle likes to give me book branded things, and uh for those listeners who enjoy a good book. Uh read Scott Sigler's GFL series, starting with the rookie. Um, yes, I since you you've been dr I saw it on my shelf and you've been read drink link, reading, listening. You've been you've been listening to the Scott Sigler.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Um I'm on I'm on the starter.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

And yeah, uh basically this is a long-winded approach to say that uh this is a phenomenal West Coast IPA.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Uh not supposed to be hazy.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

Not supposed to be hazy. Okay, what surprised me?

SPEAKER_02 15:24

I thought it was supposed to be hazy in your own.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

A little bit of a mislead. A little bit of a mislead. The breweries are known for hazy IPAs, but this is a West Coast IPA. Uh Hop with the Mosaic, Crush, Nelson, Citrocryo, and Amarillo Cryo. Amarillo, Amarillo. I mean California, I'm gonna say amarillo.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Um tomato, tomatillo.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

When I didn't even look at the beers now when I grabbed the can, I saw Shred, I saw Cellarmaker, I grabbed the beer. So it surprised me when I poured it, because I assume a hazy when I drink these breweries. But uh a very good West Coast IPA. I mean just right off the bat, you get that West Coast hot bitterness. It's it's it's not just a dry hop bomb with the name West Coast. It it has that bitter component you look for. I will say I think I'm getting more of the Crush and Nelson than the mosaic. I'm not getting a lot of that super passion fruity kind of tropical fruit vibe. But um overall, just a very good West Coast. I mean, I'd say 8.2 out of 10, 8.3. I mean, it's uh it's a it's one I'd grab again. It's one I'm glad I have a four-pack of. And uh I am happy to see a very well done West Coast by two breweries that, at least personally, I know for doing hazy's. And also uh ten out of ten for having a hash bandicoot. Uh pixelated hop uh crash is what it what the what the can looks like. So Jackson's gonna have to get at it. Three, two, one. One, two, three. Alright, for our listeners at home, if you had a blip before this uh service announcement, it's because we had some technical difficulties. But I'm gonna trust I'm gonna trust our editor, and uh I'm sure it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Yeah, that was weird. My computer just completely froze, and all of a sudden I could hear you you kept talking, but your video froze. And then I was frozen in the video, but I'm like, but I'm moving around.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

And the audio settles recording, but it weren't anyway.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Gotta love a little a little uh a little reboot, a little little technical difficulty that comes with the territory. But uh yes, overall less cohesive. 8.2 out of ten uh shred cellar maker west coast IPA. Uh yeah, hash bandicoop. Will drink again, because I have three more of 'em.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Oh nice. Um but speaking of Shred, that being uh a Sacramento-ish Airway brewery, um this last week and actually happening right now since Friday, and this being Wednesday, the 29th of April, we're in the midst of Sacramento Craft Beer Week. So things have been happening all across Sacramento breweries for Sacramento Craft Beer Week. Have any of them jumped out to you, Mark? Have you gone to any events for Sacramento Craft Beer Week? Are you looking forward to going to any events for Sacramento Craft Beer Week? I've gone to a couple, but what have you seen or done?

SPEAKER_03 19:07

I mean, we can since you've been to a couple, I've only been to really kind of one on the outskirts, so I'll let you uh go one, I'll go one, and you wrap us up.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

Sick. Okay. The first one I went to was on Saturday. Nice. Um, and I don't have a calendar up, but let me bring it up because I I want to know the date, the exact date that I went to.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

This was Saturday, the 25th. April 25th.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

April 25th. Um that was uh me out doing errands, decided, hey, it's Sack My Craft Beer Week. I want to do something. Saw that I was close to Geist House, and they were doing something.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Always popping, by the way. Always popping.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Oh yeah. I wasn't sure what it was, but I saw that they had posted something, so it was our way over. We're about to get there, and I re I looked it up to double check what was going on, and it was a like a spring starting festival, kind of like a reverse Oktoberfest, the Früingolfest.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Um, oh god, uh Frauleinfest?

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Fraulein, I think, is where we see wife or something. Um anyway, uh, but it was a festival. It was very similar to that of like Oktoberfest, but a lot more tame, similar in the way that they had like traditional German food being served, and they had live music from a traditional German band. Um, and there's a lot of people everywhere wearing Lederhosen. Um the place was packed, they had their garage door open, like leading out to the patio, because it was actually a really nice weathered day.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

And they were doing gravity pours of a special beer. That day was the uh German Pilsner was doing a gravity pour from a keg, um, or a cask, I should say. And so I got that.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

And it was delicious, a lot smoother than you normally get because once a gravity pour, it's not there's not CO2 pushing it out, it's being poured by by gravity and whatever carbonation it has from what's in there. Um I sat, listened to some traditional German music. Uh I also had a couple sips of a New Zealand, um, not New Zealand, sorry. A uh what was it? It was a different Pilsner. Might have been a New Zealand Pilsner.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

I was gonna say they have they have their New Zealand, they have their New Zealand Pilsner. They've got a few different iterations of Pilsner, um all all very drinkable, all very good.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

But the music was great, the people are super nice as always, and um it was just a a cool place to be. And the the thing was it was so busy.

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

But like still we were able to sit down at a table, like it was a communal, you know, German style table. Yeah. But It was just there's so many people there, and there's so many people that were just so excited to be celebrating something German and people there with so many people of traditional outfits, not just the people performing, people that looked like they understood the cultural side of it a lot more than I did. Um which is just something cool to see from a brewery in Sacramento, but also one in that area. I mean, it's so isolated. A couple years ago that brewery wasn't open there, they didn't have a following, and it's now just been a little over a year, and they've got the place packed, and not just packed, but like with a very positive energy, and and they only have loggers on tap. You know, they have six taps with only loggers that were there.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

Have they ever served one of their collaboration? Because I feel like they've collaborated on paleos or IPAs, but I don't know if they've made their own seen them.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

They'd made their own IPAs and and and hazy IPAs that I've seen on tap there. Okay. But at at this this visit they didn't have any, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:07

And they have an extra Stromingsfest.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Still, like it the fact that they can be such a young brewery in such a random place in in Sacramento, relatively speaking, and have all of these people come out with this great type of like just air to it, you know, it was it was just really cool to see. And all um from you know uh Sack Breerwake, this is being played directly into it, but still felt separate enough because it was, you know, a uh German style festival. I'm trying to find something else that they had they had listed for um so I have the post on Instagram here.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

It was uh F-R-U-H-L-I-N-G, Fraudingsfest. I'm probably butchering that in pronunciation, but it uh said traditional German music, Heller Bach release, gravity kegs of Keller beer. Did you have the Keller beer?

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Um no I well no I didn't know. That's what I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

So uh food specials by sugar and sunshine, new merch, discounts for wearing later Hosner Dundal. So really just kind of incentivizing getting into the spirit, which is smart. Um uh overall, yeah, Frellings Fest. I I don't know if I'm assuming that has some roots in something traditional.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

I'd have to do more research, but it's like kicking off spring, like spring flowers and stuff, and uh it was it was just awesome. And there's never a bad time to go to Geist House, but that was definitely a really fun, fun time to go um and check it all out.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

Wow, and so that was my folly week thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

I was gonna say, well, I was just gonna say that was my first beer week thing. What was what what did you do for Sek Beer Week?

SPEAKER_03 24:53

But if you have a question while we're on the Geist House tangent, I had their Instagram pulled up, and on May 2nd, from noon to two, they're doing a Passport to Pights, a European tasting voyage. They're doing a sip your way through Europe with a beer expert, Rebecca Newman. Enjoy four European style beers from Geist House Brent Company, and get an exclusive preview of a Rhine River beer tasting cruise sailing August 2026. I mean a beer tasting cruise sounds like something I would love to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

I was trying to look for I'd taken a picture of the flyer, so I thought. Um I couldn't find it, but yeah, I'm I was thinking of trying to do it, but I'm going to do it.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

I would love to, but yes, I am I am unfortunately swamped with parental duties that day. Um but if you are not swamped with parental duties or have a baseball game, uh check out the Instagram and check out the link, see if it's something that uh interests you.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Yeah, and apparently Rebecca Newman has has a lot of like history with um a lot of big breweries helping them with um a number of of things. She's she's uh she is an industry person and she's good insight on beer.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

So um but yeah, so what did you do? Kind of keeping it local. I went to my local tap room. Um they had hosted a local beer night um with a lot of phenomenal local offerings, a lot of collaborations.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Um what's your local tap room?

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Uh Capital Beer and Tap. Um long time listeners to the podcast will know that uh there's not many tap rooms I frequent outside of Capital Beer and Tap, uh located off of Howe Avenue in Faroaks, where it turns into J Street in the University Plaza, I want to say. I think it's still I think it's still called University Plaza. How and Faroes behind the shell is it shell or somebody's right behind the uh shell by uh Bennett's American Foods by Safeway. It's it's in, you know, kind of one of those random parking lots, kind of unassuming, but it it for me, I have not entered that parking lot for something other than cap tap, uh other than a small percentage of visits. And usually if I make a visit to that parking lot, I'm also hitting CapTap.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Uh maybe my favorite place to drink beer in Sacramento.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Oh, for sure. I mean, I went in the other day, um, it was kind of the middle of the day, nothing nothing too serious when I when I visited, and it was you know, they had all their offerings from the local collaboration week. Great conversations with the uh beer tender on hand with the customers. Um just you know, if you want a laid back vibe, go on an off hour. If you want a little bit more liveliness, go go when it's a little busier. They have two TVs usually showing sports. They have one TV dedicated to VHS. If you want to watch something random from a bygone era, uh usually usually something awesome on the VHS, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Do you remember it was on when we were there last drinking?

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Oh god, I don't Twister. I need I honestly need to watch the original Twisters and then uh probably follow it up with the new one just just for shits and giggles. But uh the beer that caught my eye is a brewery that we don't often talk about. There was a collaboration, and this is a little bit of a local plus adjacent. Original pattern and King Kong Brewing had a collaboration IPA. Interesting. And I will say, drinking it, I would not peg it as an original pattern IPA. So my initial thought was this was more influenced by King Kong Brewing. It's Sacramento Beer Week, they're doing a collaboration. I feel like this is a beer that was probably brewed primarily by King Kong at their location, uh, if I had to guess. And if anyone knows, please chime in in the comments. But it was a phenomenal IPA. It was uh one of the better original original pattern branded beers I'd had, and it was one of the better King Kong beers I've had. Um I think they did a really good job on it, and um when it comes to Sacramento Beer Week, I feel like collaboration is something that is super important. Um most of the beers on tap were collaboration beers. I had one by a shred. Um trying to think of the the collaboration was I was having uh better conversations than I was focusing on my beer because it's a tap room and you should converse, get out, talk to people, enjoy the the liquid, liquid courage, enjoy the conversation. Uh carbonated conversation. Carbonated conversation, if you will. But uh yeah, I mean I had a a shred club that was really good. I had this King Kong club that was really good, and I think that a beer week, be it local, be it, you know, even including the surrounding areas such as the Bay Area, uh behind me I have a SF beer week poster with a rare barrel that I got at a random auction. And uh beer weeks are a good way just to showcase local beer to support your community, to support your businesses, and uh I will say I got to support Shred, original pattern, King Kong by, you know, just purchasing and enjoying their wares. And overall I will say my favorite beer of the Sec Beer Week was that King Kong collab. I mean to date. Follow followed by Shred as the close second. Um I will say I'm I'm very happy even talking to the beer tender, she had mentioned that King Kong has had a lot more beer kind of coming out, so I feel like that's something I need to go and revisit. I mean, when you're in a a city that has so many breweries, I mean not all of us live in cities like that. I've I've traveled to the Midwest via Nevada, Utah, and Wyoming. I know that not every city has a ton of craft breweries. It's you know, by location. But uh Yeah, we're lucky, for sure. If you have a place that is flush with craft breweries and you find one, you know, maybe maybe venture out. Try it try new things. Never never hurts to try something new. I mean, you might be disappointed from time to time, but you also might be surprised by the thing you pick up, i.e., you know, some random San Jose brewery can.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

I mean that's the thing. That's why I say at the end of every episode, go drink a beer if I try to remember to. Uh because you never know what you're gonna find, and if you have something bad, at least it's a story, but usually it's not. You know, there are some bad beer this these days um for it to be widely available. Um which is gonna sidetrack me for a moment before I get into my next Sack Beer Week thing.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Yeah, a little preview of the next.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

I was thinking um uh today I was thinking like, what is that cream ale from the the East Coast brewery that I like so much that I've only had once? And it was um Genesee by a brewery in Rochester, New York. And there's a random place in the closest place to us that has cans of it is this random bottle shop in South Lake Tahoe. And I have the urge to go randomly drive and get it, but there's so much good beer around us here, it's stupid to do so. Um because we are lucky to have so many breweries that are of such quality here. I haven't had King Kong in years. I need to give them a shot.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

So I've had two King Kong brews this week. It was their Zungle, Zungle, Jungle, it was their their Pilsner, which is just a very drinkable beer. I I brought it to night where I had planned on drink to drink multiple beers, and then I had the original pattern collaboration. So um I drank a little more King Kong this week, and uh yeah, uh definitely a place that we have in the past really enjoyed visiting. Uh a great little location down between uh what is it, Arden and Del Paso, uh went before you get to Garden Highway. An area that's you know for seeing some some investment, some rebuilding, kind of an off-the-beaten path kind of light rail area where you're similar enough to uh Oak Park brewing in a way. I feel like they're they are slightly off the path, right?

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Yeah. Um but yeah. Um any other thing you want to add for your sack beer week thing before I talk about my next?

SPEAKER_03 33:53

No, I mean I I I think uh unlike the you know last decade, I think the beer week has been you know a lot tamer than what we grew up with, and I I I'd heard the same from the beer tenders at CapTap. But by the same virtue, I think we've, you know, hit that hill, we've crashed the bubble, and now we've settled into kind of just enjoying things at a more level pace. And to see so many good brews still being brewed for beer week, it shows that there's still passion in the industry and there's still great beer to be drank.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Like less things are scarce, is the thing. So things are special special things release so often that you don't need this week to be the one time you get something special because you'll find it throughout the year.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

Also, you want to brew a good beer to stand out. I mean, King Kong did that with the original pattern for me. They they brewed a really good beer and that stood out to me.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Which is badass. And what else is badass? So this the other thing I did for Sack Brew Week, I went to a surprise, to an Addies Sacramento Craft Brew Week um event on Sunday. And that was a how to play Magic of the Gathering event.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

I played once in my life. I played once.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

See, like I tried playing once. I thought I knew how to play, I guess I didn't. Um I imagine it's evolved. It was awesome. It was cool. Apparently there's like a yeah, there's a there's a a new style of playing, which is like commander style, where you have like one commander that kind of like is the theme for your deck of cards. Anyway, I won't get too into the weeds with how Magic of the Gathering works.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

That's a different podcast.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Um it it was cool, it was fun. It was it was um not technically related to craft beer, but more so a reason to go to the brewery and enjoy a few beers while learning something. And the game itself like it was it was me, the person teaching it, and like three other people. So it wasn't a whole bunch, so it was easy to get some information of how what was going on and getting gaining understanding, and two and a half hours flew by quick. I got these um sleeves, so when I get my first card deck put together, I have protectors for it, which I plan on doing soon.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

And you need to push the glasses up when you say protectors.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

Oh yeah, I have protectors and um I think the cool thing was it other than like I think this is a game I do want to play quite a bit, um it's one of those things that shed a light on a whole community of people that you won't even think are there that maybe you could fit into, right? So the craft beer community is a very wide community, especially in 2026. And every Sunday at the brewery that I'm at, every Friday for a music recognition game I do, every Sunday there from 3 p.m. to close, there are there's a whole group that play Magic the Gathering. I had no idea. And then every Monday.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Even being there, you had no idea?

SPEAKER_02 37:26

They know that they every Sunday there's a thing. Um and then uh every Monday at Maddie Groves, there's even more people that show up to play Magic the Gathering at Maddie Groves.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

I will say, I feel like Maddie Groves is definitely somewhere that uh supports gaming and a lot more of a low-key vibe. They they definitely fit the bill of a great place with big tables, uh laid-back community. I could definitely see them being a great location for that, just as a sidebar. We we don't talk a lot about Maddie Groves from a beer standpoint because I haven't even been there yet.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Um but and I'll be like whenever I I get I get a deck that I feel a little comfortable with, I'll go and and see what that's all about. But I think it it's a fun little microcosm within the greater niche microcosm that is, maybe not so niche anymore of craft beer. Of people that love craft beer and love playing magic. Um it just seemed it was just cool, just something I wasn't I wasn't expecting to enjoy so enamored with. Um it's fair. It's just cool. Nishes are fun. And it's also one of those things I feel like that's better in 2026 versus like when we were we were in high school and and stuff growing up where so many things are less faux pas, you know, there's so many things are less categorized in the the air of like being nerdy or geeky to do, because we geek a nerd out over beer, but I mean you're talking to a Pokemon nerd here, so but it used to be not cool to be doing the same thing with like Pokemon or or Yu-Gi-Oh or any number of anime things or nerdy things like Dungeons and Dragons and Magic the Gallagher.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

It's an easy target for people to be like, oh, that's lame, or oh, that's you know, just weird, uh because it's it's not a standard thing.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

And it's the the the the collective understanded like rhetoric of like, oh that's that's dumb, that's nerdy. But I feel like so many more things are just like able to be what they are without any type of like hate outpouring for you trying it. I would have never played Magic in high school because I would have got just made fun of like crazy. But like, yeah, 2026, like you know what? I don't care. Plus, no one else cares now. Yeah. Uh everyone's cool with it. Uh, with you being whatever fan of whatever you want to be a fan of, I'm going to jump headlong into this if I want to.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

And if you can incorporate beer drinking while enjoying a hobby, why not do both? Porcano.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

That's why I can't really cement myself down into playing organized sports right now.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

I'd rather drink beer with my hobby, sir.

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Video games? Yes, please. Uh wait, I can't drink beer here? No, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

Um and as an aside, I'm pretty sure Magic the Gathering has a like TCG online function. Uh, after the casts, we could talk about it. I've never personally tried, but if you get into an online function where you want to drag me into, we will we will sidebar. Because I'm all for trying nerdy online things that are very passive. Also, I like collecting cards. Ah, do you already have it?

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Yeah. Um nice.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

So if you invite me, do I get cards?

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Huh?

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Can I can I have free downloadable things if you invite me? Yeah. Perfect. I like I like free invitable things.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

I haven't got through the tutorial yet.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

But um we're gonna get there. But yeah, for coming soon. Magic gathering cast featuring beer test.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

For beer link. Um it brought me into a new potential hobby. Like I I honestly do want to go to a comic store on on some someday coming up and build this deck that I was starting with at the event because uh it it seemed up my alley, and the person's like, Yeah, you can go to the comic book store around the corner from at ease, tell them you want a deck with this as the commander, and it's like 36 bucks. Nice. Okay. And that's a hundred cards plus, like, and it gets you started. Like I can I can affront that.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

I I do appreciate a card game that has a theme deck intro. Do they have theme decks in Magic of the Gathering is the question.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Oh, a hundred percent. Then they they have I've learned I've learned they also have cross IP themed decks. So they have like a Fallout collaboration deck system. They have TMNT. Oh my god. That was hard the last airbender.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

That is the greatest RV thing I've heard.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

They have Lord of the Rings, they have not win. Um I bet that's a bet that's a card. But um no, I'm stuck on it. I think it's gonna be cool. If you want a new fixation, go into it.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

If you want a new fixation, grab a beer. I swear to god, if they do a Diablo themed dungeon crawler car over where you go through more escalating dungeons, I would pay dollars for that because I am on level one of this dungeon, and the amount of interesting loot like the the the fact that we've already had the cat gain skills, and this is not trying to spoil anything, but put on a crown that has already foreshadowed eight dungeons ahead.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

We put on a tiara and now we're in a blood feud.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

Yeah. Yep. Oh, and and so for those that haven't haven't heard us talk had me heard me so far talk about dungeon crawler crawl. Uh if that that's a great that's actually a great way to explain things because there's a talking cat, right? And and this guy he's wearing his boxers with a leather jacket.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Wait, wait, I got to the I got to the knee pads. He's got knee pads on there.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

We're we're we're coming up. Oh shit. We're coming up in the world. Um the fact that yeah, um Princess Donut, uh the cat that now talks, puts on a crown that means that she's gonna have to defeat a whole clan of like a whole group of people, a collective, on a floor away in the future. I'll tell you what, I've gotten past that floor already. Oh god, no. And let me just say like it the payoff for everything ever, anything that comes up, the payoff is fantastic. And honestly, yeah, I won't uh it it that it it gets so much better, like especially with that the tiara thing. It it it builds it's I'm so here for it. We're characters you haven't met yet that are a part of it, and uh it's yeah, so good.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

I love I love the caveat where if you take off this tiara it will be given to someone else. It will be given to someone else, which means there's w at least one more person now you have to kill to progress. If you get rid of this tiara, it will just come back to haunt you.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah, because you'll have to kill whoever it goes to, and like Princess Dona is a cat. Yes, she can shoot magic muscles from her eyes, but like come on, like it who could it be?

SPEAKER_03 45:17

Um just the I mean the the the the amount of randomness is so perfectly fitted to like you don't like it writes itself. I mean it doesn't write itself, it has been written, but like in terms of creating a video game from scratch, right? To to create the lore, to have the storytelling, you you have that in Dungeon Crawler Carl.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

You could uh you could elaborate you're like ten chapters in like ten chapters in, like I maybe. And you can see it already. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Um the thing is like it is there's infinite possibilities.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

We're we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna bring up Dungeon Crawler Carl again, because once we get to further I don't want to say the exact level, but like once you get to other levels and there's other characters, because this this book series is so good that it's so random where you've got llamas that deal math that spit lava, but there are multiple times where I teared up because of how emotionally deep this series gets. Like it gets deep, you know, it's it's it's kind of like um like the TV show Scrubs. Like it is a comedy, but holy crap, there are episodes I just hurt because it's so emotionally strong. Um it gets real an amazing book series. But if they do a crossover with Magic the Gathering, I'm going to lose my shit and my money. Um and I can think of how to use for it.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Basic llama, spitting lava. That could totally be a card.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

Lava spitting, mess selling lava. If you tap this card, you can either spit spit lava or two attempt to deal meth, which will be a lingering, lingering uh thing. Like at first it'll give power, but then it's gonna start to come back and hurt them. Um I could talk about Dungeon Crawler Crawl forever. But uh that was Sacramento Craft Beer Week. There's so many cool things going on. Look up a brewery in Sacramento during this week coming up. Uh that's happening now, actually. See what they got going on. But the cool thing too is once this week is over, Sacramento Craft Beer Weeky every week. You can go to these breweries whenever you want. And following up on these weeks, they might have cool things left over. You never know. Like like audience has a bunch of these pins that they were given out on Sunday past Friday. Um, and there's still a bunch. So if you want to get stuff, you never know a brewery's gonna have Sacramento Craft Beer. But we're gonna move to our next topic. I had last week come across my passport, my Sacramento Beer Frontier Brewery Passport. And mine was issued June 2019.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

God damn. And I was a while ago.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

That was seven years ago.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

I am so upset because I I had, I think, what was the first iteration going back to probably god at least 2014.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

2016 it was established, 2016.

SPEAKER_03 48:20

So yeah, probably around then, because I I remember I don't know when old Hangtown Beerworks closed down, but my passport that I had had old Hangtown, and guarantee it's in a box somewhere. Uh after that passport living in my car for a long time. I had then sold my car to my fabulous co-host. And uh it's not in there. It's it's yeah, it's not in there. Um I I I searched the the unused glove compartment of my current vehicle. Could not find it. What'd you find? A fruit pouch, specifically a blueberry yogurt pouch for for for a toddler. Uh that expired two years ago. That should tell you how often I go into the glove box of my vehicle.

SPEAKER_02 49:11

Better fermented, but it's alcoholic.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

I'm not there is enough preservatives in that thing probably to kill anything. It's probably edible if a dungeon happened now. Yeah, you know, if a dungeon happened now and I had the constitution that Dungeon Carlo Carl had, I could drink that and probably heal.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

So drink that and hit a healing potion. But if it's if it counts as a potion and you consume two potions too quickly, you get potion sickness, so you don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

You don't want you don't want potion sickness.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

You poison you poison yourself, yeah. Um so what I want to do is I want to go I'm gonna run through all the breweries that appear on this passport. I'm gonna I'm gonna go through one through 72 and plus the the four we went over last week that were under construction, and then quickly go back through because they're divided by fours or like no by fives, and we can um pick out what's interesting from that section. So let me just give you an overview of the case.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

So real quick, time out. Yeah. Your your passport had blanks, right, for future potential breweries to then add their own passport stamps. Uh it was a a great idea that was built to hey, go try this brewery, get a stamp. I still have a keychain from one of my turn-ins of the original. That was the the sack beer, whatever. Uh I I think it's a great model, but it is so interesting to see how this literal historic document ha has aged. I mean, in essence, it was a point-in-time pat like a point-in-time snapshot of the breweries in our area. This is a this is like if an archaeologist found a time capsule, or f not a time capsule, a a fucking whatever it's called. Is it what fossil? Why am I blinking? The thing we buried in school to be dug in. Thank you. It time capsule sounded scientific for me for some reason, but yeah. If you found this in a time capsule, buried under some garage, some school, the one I buried in uh elementary school is no longer at an elementary school, it's now an admin building, still hasn't been dug up. I have passed the time capsule period from my elementary school, which makes me feel old as shit. Um but yeah, regardless, this is a a literal historic document. This would be an archaeological find. This would be, you know, downloadable uh real recording. Granted, you know, you have to take a imagine we faked a document like this and put it in time capsule. Like we could fuck with future generations.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

Um wild burries in here.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

Side note um in the sigler verse there is someone who will be reading a book and they will say that it is a uh historical human book that relates to a book called Ancestor, which you should also read.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Um Well, that already happened, right? Because that was um he he he was he's reading to uh to understand Earth um in human people better linebacker. Yeah, yeah, and and then he asked, like uh uh uh Quentin's like, I don't know what that is. He's like, Well, do you know what this is? And he's like, No. And he's just like, okay. And then he then he says something about Shakespeare. And he's like, who? And he's like, whatever, just get just go inside, just go. Um, because that's when he goes to have a nice, nice time.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

Fun side note, Scott Sigler, the author, he tangents his books into other books, and uh the historical human uh pinnacle of art he is referencing is generated in the book Ancestor, which is a different book within the universe, and uh also a highly recommended read, but pinpoint for ya. Go read Ancestor, see the book and the author he's reading about.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

Hunter Guthrie, is that it?

SPEAKER_03 53:19

That sounds about right.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Anyway, so without further ado, let me tell you what breweries are in the 2019 sec or June 2019. They specified June 2019. Alright, I was going from one to 72. God damn. These are not ones under construction, we got Beriesa, Hoobies, Blue Note, Super Owl, Rushaller, Three Mile, Dunlo, Sudwork, Jackrabbit, YOLO, Bike Dog, Urban Roots, Big Stump, Paddies, Sacrament, Alara, New Hell Visha, Fountainhead, Track Seven, Track Seven, King Kong, Porchlight, Tower, Oak Park, Hoppy, Asian Brothers, Device, New Glory, Big Sexy, Dreaming Dog, Tilted Mash, Waterman, Flatland, River Rock, River City, Fair Oaks, Burning Barrel, Claim Steak, Thin Line, Fort Rock, Red Bus, Miraz, Palm Tree, Dark Heart, The Monk's Cellar, Moxa, Catherine's Beer Garden, Out of Bounds, Goat House, Dueling Dog, Hill and Brand 5150, Lumis Basin, Moonraker, Knee Deep, Crooked Lane, Auburn Alehouse, Cool Beerworks, Farmhouse, Gold Hill, Jack Russell, Highway 50, Outbreak, Placerville, El Dorado, Solid Ground, Amador, Sutter Butes, Grass Valley, 1849, Old Republic, and Three Forks, the four being built at the time. Touchstone, Logoff, Hungry Pecker, and Uncle Charlie's. That is an interesting list because and we're gonna go through it again. Just time.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Any of them pop out to you like the to be built. Yeah, we have 50% success rate.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

Touchstone still around, log off still around, Hungry Pecker ain't, and Uncle Uncle Charlie's no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

It might be around. I've never fucking heard of that.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

Let me look it up really quick and because it could be a 75 uh Uncle Charlie's.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

I mean, I hey, if we get 50% on 2019's Up and Coming, that means the breweries mentioned in your up and coming are now around six years old. I mean, we're we're talking twenty twenty-one was the the the birth of my first child. So these are breweries who've been around for the the life of my kid.

SPEAKER_02 56:07

That is Uncle Charlie's firehouse and brew. No, is it a is it still a veteran owned not our beer brewery? Um they last posted something February 19th. Um I mean it looks like they're a thing.

SPEAKER_03 56:33

Where is this located at?

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Uncle Charlie's 905 Liter's Dove Suite 100 Folsom, California.

SPEAKER_03 56:43

Folsom, interesting. So Folsom is an area I don't feel like we get it out to a lot. Uncle Charlie's Firehouse and Brew, but do they brew their own beer or is it like uh a BJ's situation? Who did brew their own beer, but it was extremely limited, not really the draw, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:06

What?

SPEAKER_03 57:08

Inter this is something I didn't know existed.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

I'm so glad you're there's a membership you can sign up for with them.

SPEAKER_03 57:15

Dog, you you just unlocked that.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Well, no, one's credit card one's a Venmo. So you can like just a visual audio reaction. Club membership, one year one year club membership with custom placard. Can you guess how much that is for one year?

SPEAKER_03 57:46

A whole year, I imagine, like four beer, twenty a month, what? 240? Huh? Two hundred and forty dollars? Five hundred. So two four packs plus discounts. I mean I it doesn't say what's what what's in it.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

It just it doesn't deposit. Welcome to the Forge from Fire Society, building the Uncle Charlie's Firehouse and Brew Legacy. One brick and drink at a time.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

Is it a$500 brick?

SPEAKER_02 58:24

We will be in touch regarding the membership benefits. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

Time out, time out. Not a fan. Uh Google's AI, with their no before you go, they aren't brewing their own beer yet, but have lots of other options is the first AI blurb you get on Google Maps.

SPEAKER_02 58:43

The fact that it's a it the the first thing on their Instagram says first responder, veteran-owned, not our brewer not our beer brewery.

SPEAKER_03 58:53

What is I that this this sounds like they're not using brewing as a marketing scheme?

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Not our beer brewery. Like they're like up all uppercase, like not our beer, like we don't brew. That is so weird. And they've got such a random this. Their Instagram is so wild. It's a lot of like people and uh like from the top, it's a lot of people like in workout, like running gear and like Oh god, mixed with like what looks like they're they're posing with beer equipment though.

SPEAKER_03 59:30

Yeah, uh Fossum's a weird beer place. I'm just looking through their top Google reviews. They have a 4.9 on Google, which uh yeah, I mean I think we need to research this.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

I think we need Dude, uh okay, I've actually seen this place. I I've been in Folsom, it's it's in in Oldest Tork Folsom. I know where this is. I didn't realize this was a brewery, I thought it was just a tap room.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:02

Well, I don't think it is a brewery.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

That's the thing. I mean, it has it looks like they have like brewing stuff in there. It's right in Oldest Torque Folsom. Oh no. Um I might have to just we might have to we might have to do a thing where we go and figure this out. We're gonna have to pick like a weekend day and we're gonna we're gonna go figure it out their hours. Our Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays. So Friday 4 to 10, Saturday 12 to 10, Sunday 12 to 8.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:31

So one weekend we're gonna have to like both go out there and do some do some uh reconnaissance because currently beerless microbrewery. So we we have opened before we have started brewing.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

Beerless microbrewery.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:52

Identifies as woman owned, identifies as veteran owned. I am I'm sorry. I'm sorry, so you said that this brewery was on the twenty nineteen beer passport. Well I'll tell you what twenty twenty.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:13

This is Uncle Charlie's This says Uncle Charlie's Firehouse Brew and this says Uncle Charlie's. And it's both wholesome though. But maybe it is still trying and it never really succeeded. I don't I can't.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:28

I mean, so did we get a COVID delay of like six years? Like the the reviews I'm seeing are for like a week to three months ago. I I I I want to know the story.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

This feels like I'll tell you what, I know that it's located inside of the big uh parking garage. It's in the same building as the parking garage.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

I mean, yeah, you want to have parking if you're gonna visit brewery.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

Especially um Uncle Charlie's hammer.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

I I want I want to know more. Uh Uncle Charlie's, if uh we tag him this and you hear this podcast, we want an interview. We want to know what we're doing. What are the struggles from 2019 to today where we're we're open and we're still hopefully trying to brew? Because it does identify in the comments a microbrewery that has opened and has yet to brew beer, which feels opposite of a normal brewery opening cycle. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:43

We're a brewery brews our beer.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:46

But if you're gonna open as a chap room that's then gonna brew your own, I mean there is a lot of phenomenal beer. Are we are we talking Red Bus? Are we talking homebrew? Are we talking local community? I mean, there are there are options that are positive, and there are options that are co-opting, and I want to know which options we have.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

I didn't want to tell you what, I feel like we've given Uncle Charlie enough time on the podcast. I want to get to the first five Ariessa, Hoobies, Blue Note, Super Owl, and Rushaller. Okay. I know four of those. I've never seen Hoobies. Hoobies. Like H-O-O-B-Y-S.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:26

This feels like a Hootie's nest in your mouth joke. Um that's about to happen. H-O-O-B-I-E S?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

What how H O B Y S. Um, it is in Winters, and it's still around. Hoobies is still around. Yeah, they're open um day three to nine, Thursday three to nine, Friday, Saturday. They're even open Mondays, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

Hoobies.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

So we're on the adjunct craft beer scene podcast with Charlie's and Hoovies. Like brewing. I'm sorry. East Main Street. They got a kitchen and stuff. East Main Street? We're mainlining Hoovies.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:11

About our story. Story of Hoovies. What began as an ongoing joke has now become reality.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

I love this. I love I love this so much, Doc.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

This was 2019, homie. Um, for the past few years, the stalking family always said they were going to open a brewery. Opening day was also to be on April 1st. In all fairness, we never clarified of what year. As time went on, more and more friends were starting to get excited about the idea and kept asking us when we're really about to open up the brewery, we'd always talk about, to which we would just laugh and say April 1st. Oh my god. So that's what we did. Stop by our tap room to try our delicious beers. We're located within Winter's city limits at 9E Main Street, Suite J, just next door to the steady Eddies and Fiseli.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:06

Like Dog, they literally made an April 1st joke into a functioning brewery, and I'm here for it. We needed we need to do a woodland trip because a Blue Note, uh awesome brewery that's been around forever, uh still in in production, right? Blue Note, real real quick check. So yeah. Um I guess I should do.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:30

You know, I s I say yes, but I really should do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:32

I mean they they had good beer, it was a great location. I think Woodland is kind of one of those little off-the-beaten path places, but I mean, if I have two breweries to go to, which is Blue Note and Hoobies, can we get a Hoobie Blue Note Woodland beer crawl on the books?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:51

Also, one thing I want to do, because we're gonna go through this book.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

You gotta bring the passport. We gotta get the stamps.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:56

I only have one stamp in this passport. Oh god, I have to do that. I have to get you have to Guess you have to guess what brewery and this entire book that I only have one I only have one.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

Time out. This is a 2019 passport. And you have one stamp.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

I'll let you guess later. Like let's keep let's let's go through the entire book.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

I already have my guess, but yes, let's go through the book.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

Oh, I want to know what your guess is. It's gotta be device. No. So um out of those out of those first five, um, yeah, I do want to go to Hoobies and Bluetooth. Super owl in Davis, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:34

Solid. I've been there once. Solid strip mall brewery. Didn't have bad experience, didn't have a you know, out-of-body experience. I mean, good, good, good place to visit.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

I'll also state that next to Rushthaler it has R D brewery, R plus D brewery in the title.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

Well, uh timeout, Rustaller still has the Dixon farm now, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:56

Last time I visited, good beer, great location.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:59

I hate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

They've been a lot of ups and downs. Rustaller is one of the most chaotic They contract brewed at one point. Uh they're one of the most chaotic. They had the greatest speakeasy I've ever visited, and then downtown went through a reconfiguration, and they had one of the kind of most blah beer and locale locations I've had. It was kind of like, eh, we tried to recreate what we already had, and then their Davis Dixon farm shut down, and they opened a giant farm location. Like, they're a chaotic entity.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:36

And like their local is cool. I hated their beer, but I'll give I'll give them another chance one day.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

I I think the Dixon location is where they finally settled in.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:47

It's it's been chaotic and I love it. Uh, Dixon So, uh in in college, I had a buddy. He was he was this right, I'm pretty sure no one's gonna prosecute me for this. He was twenty at the time. We had a visit to Berkeley. We were on our way back to Sacramento, we stopped at the ranch, and we both drank some good beer and then went back to the dorm rooms and uh that didn't get ID'd. We were just drinking in Dixon. Uh shout-out Doyle, shout out Russell or Dixon before their current location. Uh just just a fun time.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:23

It was this I heard that they have uh really good cider in that city.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:28

Um but the next goddamn the next the next five missed opportunity for a cider company, but yes, let's proceed.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

It's actually a smosh joke. Um the next five three mile of brewing co Dunlo Brewing, Sudwork, Jackrabbit, YOLO. So immediately looking here, YOLO's gone. R IP YOLO had become R.I.P. campus name to campus, and they're gone too. So um interesting, but yeah, uh Jackrabbit, Sudwork, Dunlo, Three Mile. I mean, three miles still still kicking it in Davis, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:07

I believe so. I think they still have their uh location down off like G Street area. Um Dunlo, phenomenal beer. They have two locations. They've got their original brewery, which is off, I believe, Olive, which is a front street leading up to Richards.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

1606 Olive Drive. Damn my copyer knowledge.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

Um, but also their downtown location is super chill. Uh a great place to hit. Davis underrated uh beer scene underrated, kind of downtown scene. It's very laid back, great walk around town. Um three mile, I have not had in several years, but when I went there it was good. I mean, I'm I'm sure they've improved in the the years I've not visited Davis. The only thing uh I would obviously recommend not bothering to look into is YOLO. Um they were a very cool brew your own. Fun fact YOLO Brewing uh we contracted with funds through Sack State's club grants to brew a educational batch of beer in which we got ten gallons worth of YOLO brewed collaboration homebrew for our homebrew club at Sack State.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

I've learning bettering your education. Phenomenal learning experience.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

Uh the best thing I did with my my student debt is is have the the school sponsor our brew day and sponsor uh taking home the wares of said brew day. I had sex eight pay for a delicious, professionally advised homebrew. And I will take that as a win.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

Any day of the week. But yeah, out of those five, I don't have any anything more to say. Do you want to move to the next five? Sure. Next five. Bike dog, urban roots, big stump, at ease, sacrament. The two that are are are blaring to me is Big Stump and Sacrament. I don't count Sacrament as even being around anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:16

Yeah, Sacrament exists. Big Stump is gone. I don't come I don't believe they are craft beer. They unless someone wants to send us beer to uh taste on cast sponsored by Sacrament. Um it's it's it's marketing the brewery to to sell what is phenomenal burgers for burgers and brew, in my opinion. Uh again, burgers and brew, phenomenal. I will go and eat burgers there any day of the week, but I don't think Sacrament is craft brewing unless someone wants to change my mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

They're they're not because they really are kind of like a restaurant. Mom and pop uh BJs. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:12

Like Yeah, we're we're advertising beer brewing, but the real product is food.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:19

And now it's actually Midtown Gastrobar, it's not it's not um Sacrament Brewing. No Sacrament Brewing is still there, but it's not um Burgers and Brew, it's Midtown Gastro Bar.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:30

Because we still have Burgers and Brew off I Street in Westsack, right? Do they split their?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

There's Burgers and Brew off I in Westsack, and then there's Burgers and Brew off of uh R on near Ice Blocks, uh Ace of Spades. Next to Bach.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:45

Interesting. I didn't realize they had a location over there. Talking about moving the needle. I mean, you you it's fun to look at ten years of seven years if we want to be tactical between twenty nineteen and today. To to see the history of these local businesses and how they've evolved and adapted. I will say that's that's an interesting development to me, to where Sacrament Brewing is still technically around, but it is tied to more of these restaurant groups. I mean, we see Yeah, Rustaler, who's been through their business changes over the year. And these are these are all people who, if you enjoy the product, go support. I mean, our opinions are never gonna be one I want to say is meant to dissuade you from something.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:36

Yeah, we have our own prejudices, we have our own comfort zones. Like, yeah, try any brewery can be good, even if we don't particularly are you know fond of it. Like, Big Stump wasn't one I was the most fond of it, was fine. Is now Maddie Groves. That location is now Maddie Groves, not the same brewer, is not you know, maybe the same equipment, but not the same recipes or anything. Um just because I'm not clamoring to go to Maddie Groves doesn't mean that you shouldn't try it.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:04

Um I had a great experience there for sure. I but this is our experience. This is this is the craft beer through two people who've lived in Sacramento's eyes. Um and this is two people out of thousands of people who live in Sacramento and visit these establishments.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:20

So you believe it. We're not the only two Sacramentans. Um but yeah, no, you know and so Bike Dog, Urban Roots, and Addie is being lumped together on the same page as well. Uh phenomenal berries. All three equal in size and uh prestige, all have capacity.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:37

All have beer worth drinking for sure. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:40

All have beer worth drinking. Um only one has this guy there every Friday. Um but yeah, no, it's true. But let's move on. Uh so we got the next, we got the next page. Alaro, New Hell Beat Show, Fountainhead, Track 7, Track 7. So both track sevens are close. I don't I I I I always thought it was dumb as as hell that they had two uh track sevens like on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:04

Like yeah, they had technically two different geographic locations. And they brew it both, but like it just feels like that feels like a marketing boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

Yeah, and then so Alaro, this would have been early on for the.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:19

But to be fair though, time out. Uh we'll we'll we'll backtrack in history. I was living in Nathomas when Track 7 opened their Natomas location, and I was working in Natomas at that time, and their Natomas location was pretty legit. I enjoyed the giant warehouse vibe where you walk into a giant warehouse, you see the mill, like you see that you see how the sausage gets made. It was a fun time. Um, I'm hard to get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:46

Very, very reminiscent of Needee. Very reminiscent of Neep.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:49

Very reminiscent of Need. Uh I I will say I enjoyed the two track seven locations for their individual charm. Uh R.I.P. track seven due to one of the owners' uh bad deeds following a bunch of uh bad decisions.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:06

Yep, let's leave it there. Um, Fountainhead, I still haven't got to. I really, really want to go. I've never been wanting to try it. Never had one of those comments.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:13

One of those niche neighborhood joints, and I don't remember ever having bad beer. I remember it being very artsy niche, just kind of enjoyable. I think I was probably in community college the last time I missed that brewery. And the fact the fact they're still around through COVID, through all the hardship, through the bubble bursting. You know, fucking shout out to Fountainhead. They might be close to one of the oldest breweries in the Sacramento area.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:43

You never know. Um and yeah, so Nelhovisha, all our out, you know, good good spots. Let's move on. And as we're moving on, keep thinking where did I get my stamp? Um, next page, King Kong, Porchlight, Tower, Oak Park and Hoppy. Um both okay, so so Oak Park and Hoppy both have asterisk asterisks next to their uh their name, um, which I haven't seen yet. And that means that they're reopening soon. So um Oak Park never truly reopened as what they were. Hoppy, same tower, gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:27

Um Portugal RAP uh what was the what was the one that bought them out? Great Water.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:35

Um okay, so Tower turn what was Sactown Union Tower was bought out by uh Sweetwater?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:44

No, no, but you're it's something along those lines. The ones that make the campfire stout.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:54

Yeah. Oh, it'll come to me randomly. Um but yeah, so this page only two in their c actual forms exist now. Oak Park brewing forces around, but completely different than what this was here.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:08

Um New Oak Park is filming.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:10

High water brewing. High water brewing.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:12

Thank God. I knew it had something to do with something with water.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:16

Yeah, I just had to not try to think about it. Yeah. Um, this is a this is like again, we we already talked about King Kong. I'd like to go there again. Uh, we've been to Porchlight, it's been a little bit of time, but nothing draws me back as much.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:28

Uh no, I mean uh when we were going, uh this is when we we knew the brewer. He was a phenomenal brewer, and uh had gone through some ownership changes, some brewer changes. Uh I won't say anything bad about Porchlight. I think they do good beer, but for me, you know, the the beer I enjoyed, uh the brewer who brew those beers had gone to new ventures, and I didn't enjoy the beers as much after that. Um your passport uh probably only shows porchlight. The passport I had uh still probably mentioned twelve rounds brewing. Yeah. Who uh made the bad decision of being in East Sacramento and posting very anti-Obama uh social media posts. So, ladies and gentlemen, uh know your audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:28

It didn't last a single round, they got knocked the fuck out. Um hardly.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:33

This is a free country, uh, but you're not free of consequences on the people you're trying to get to buy your wares.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:41

Hard and quick. Like, my god, they were gone so fast. It was a whirlwind of like a couple. I swear it was so fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:48

Uh the fact that Porch Light bought that brewery and still had you know the equipment. We saw this recently when we visited Backstage, who had the hobby equipment. We Porch Light had the 12 rounds branded equipment. Uh you know, it's a it's it's a hard business. And uh sometimes leach off its corpse, man. Leach off its corpse. You gotta loot that body.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

You gotta get pick up if you can pick up the body too and bring the body into your inventory. You've gotta use that body. You never know when you're gonna need it.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

Um the next page.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:24

Next page. Asian brothers brewing company device brewing new glory, big sexy dreaming dog. So I looked it up, Asian Brothers still around. Seriously? Um where is that? Yeah. Asian brothers on Florin.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:38

Um, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

I I don't know if you could actually go there to drink beer. I think it actually maybe you can.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

I mean, South Sack sounds apt.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

They have a Thai IPA.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:49

A Thai PA?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

I think we got how have we not wait, wait, no, it's an Ileton.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:57

Where the fuck is Ileton?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:01

Wait, what'd you say? Where is Ileton? It's off the it's off the um the Delta.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:06

Oh, okay, we're going uh Sacramento adjacent. I mean the Sacramento Delta's a thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:11

It used to be on Florin Road, but it looks like it's moved.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:15

Okay. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

They've got 88 Mandarin, which is a 5.4% beer. They've got 54 Saigon a 5.4, Cambodian player, Thai IPA, 75 Vietnam, Mexican IPA. Um, they have a video saying what they're about. Monday through Friday, they're um appointments only. They're closed on the weekend. So I mean Asian-owned craft beer brewery. Um what's what's the name of the brewery? Asian Brothers Brewerinco.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:01

Asian Brothers Brewing Company.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:04

Okay, Asian Brothers Brewing Company. We're makers of Asian craft beers. We live to brew fine Asian craft beers in America. Sweet Asian style hops, hints of mint, honey, and durian. Tell your taste buds that these are different and special. Our mission at Asian Brothers Brewing Company is to tell the stories of a brotherhood that exists among a group of Asians who were displaced from their respective countries after the Vietnam American War in 1975. This group of people are comprised of the Hmong, the Nine, the Lao, the Cambodian, Thai, and Vietnamese. Asian Brothers Brewing Company's aim is to bring each of these cultures in the beer that we make. You see and you see all of us share a common ground, our fate and history. If it wasn't for the Vietnam American War, we wouldn't be here today to bring you a delicious beer and to share our stories with you. When the war officially ended on April 30th, 1975, many of us found ourselves without a country. After fleeing this war, our people ended up all over the world, and we are fortunate that many of us have settled here in California. Now that some of our children have been born and raised here, we want to keep this history and our legacies alive in the beer that we brew. To each beer we make, we dedicate a meaningful name and a specific historical account of our brotherhood that is worth remembering and sharing. We hope that one day when our kids are going to drink beer like we do, we want them to lift our beers, smell the tropical fragrances, taste the sweet notes of our native lands, and read the stories behind each beer. We want all our beer drinkers to experience the journey that brought our families here today and remember our people's tragedy and heroism. Let's toast to this as we continue to embrace and support each other. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:43

I mean, I have nothing bad to say about the literal most the the base the base level of craft beer is community brewed beer. And when I look at them on maps, it is literally like a a trailer. Like it is a a very grassroots-looking brewery that, as you said, has once had an El Grove location, now it looks to be in the Delta, they they do delivery. I mean, to to have something that might devolve back to almost a homebrew level and still produce it in a passionate way, I want to try this beer.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:25

And look at the brewery equipment they got. They got it, they got a good size.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:28

Yeah, I I I would love to try this. I mean, I'm not gonna badmouth something for being small. I I would love to try their beer, and I would love to hear more about that story.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:42

That is obviously that was a very cool backstory that they just had there. And then um there's there's there's just more of it, you know. The birth of a brotherhood is is written in here. And one of the sentences goes, April 30th, 1975 marked the end of the Vietnam Vietnam American War. It was a shitty day for many of us. Like fair, like fucking ass. And then later on, because of this shitty war, like they're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:09

I want to sit down and have a beer with these brewers. I want to sit down and have a beer because that that kind of for me epitomizes craft beer. It is it is small, it is communal, and it is purposeful, and I would love to try this brewery.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:28

I I this is a brewery I didn't know existed, and I we might have to make we might have take a PTO day from work because they're only open Monday through Friday by appointment only.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:37

Fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:38

Um and they're so we might have to do that. Um I I have to do that. I need to tr I need to talk to these people. That's uh that's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:51

Um this is this is not your cookie cutter craft beer, and I am so curious. Also, one of their pictures has uh the Bon me in it and oh the food looks good.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:08

Um we need to investigate this. We'll we will report back once we do it. But the rest of this page, device being closed, big sexy being closed, dreaming dog being closed. This is a page of Asians surrounding Asian Brothers and New Girls. But of course a brewery started by like by people that were displaced due to war are still around. Like, good for them. Um yeah, that's the big takeaway for me is I want to go to Asian Brothers Brewing. Yeah, um, page Tilted Mash, Waterman, Flatland, River Rock, River City.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:46

Tilted Mash.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:47

Tilted Mash is gone, Waterman's gone, River City still around, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:52

Yeah, River City's uh the one of the few Carmichael breweries.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:56

And what about River Rock?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:58

I'm pretty sure they got uh cancelled for some uh questionable humor a long time ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:06

Says they're still around.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:08

River Rock or are they rebranded?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:11

Says River Rock Brewery.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:13

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

Um is it the same different address though. Still in gold.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:18

Oh wait, time out, time out. Were they originally short bus spring?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:25

Oh no. That was them, really?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:31

Yes, I'm pretty sure that River Rock was uh the name change.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:38

Okay. Alright. Um I don't want to go there anymore. Uh so they ended me. So really on this page, Flatland is the only one that's around.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:47

Flatland is a great brewery.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:50

Yeah, they do good stuff. Tilton Mash R IP, they had some good IPAs. Watermen, they they had the vibes, um, but no good beer. So they're gone. And um Yeah, River City. Chilling out there. Um still be thinking about the one stamp I've got. Um let's move to the next page because we're we're running we're running this. We got Feroaks, Brewpub, Burning Barrel, Claim Stake, Thin Line, and Fort Rock.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:18

Uh, Thin Line RIP, one of the ones in the barrel district that did not make it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:22

Um Fort Rock, I've heard I talked to someone recently that said that they really enjoyed Fort Rock, a Pilsner from Fort Rock, and that uh The damn good Pilsner, that damn good pilsner is a uh a damn good pilsner. Damn good pilsner.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:39

They've they've won awards for it. I've never had a bad experience going to Fort Rock. Um outside the Pilsner is nothing that stands out in my memory, but uh definitely one I wouldn't oppose trying again. Had some some fun times at Fort Rock.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:55

My fondest memory of Fort Rock is um I did the uh C C B C judging there, where I was the judge for four different categories for California craft beer brewers guild or whatever. Um it was just it was fun being there on at like 10 a.m. on like a Tuesday drinking beer with the the owner of Moxa to my side. Nice judging beer. It was one of the one of the highlights of my my craft beer.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:26

Also, there is an indoor mini golf course, like walking distance there, and that is a fun course.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:33

An old spaghetti factory in case you need to get your carbs. Um not beer pubs. Is Ferox Brewpub still there?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:42

I feel like they are. They're located relatively close to the American River Trail, uh, you know, close to that sunrise uh hazel kind of bike trail area. So a bikeable brewery, and one with good food and beer.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:06

I need to go check them out. Um yeah, and burning barrel still in that same same district. We've we've talked about them pretty recently, and and also claim stake. Um we've talked about them pretty recently as well. So this is actually a pretty strong grouping of five brews out this passport. Next next we have Redbus Brewing, Marazz, Palm Tree Brewing, Dark Heart Brewing, which has an asterisk, so opening soon, and the monk cellar. Um, out of these Redbus across from uh the the homebrew location out there. I can't think of the name of the homebrew location. Um what I'll say about Redbus is I've never had bad beer there, but I feel like whenever I see their brewing equipment, I just think of like why is it so dirty? They just don't clean it. Miraz brewing RIP. They were uh specializing in sours, but they have they've gone. Palm Tree Brewing. I tried to go to once, but I couldn't because uh even though they said they were open, they just weren't they weren't open. And they also never brewed their own beer. They were contract they were a contract brewery, so palm tree, uh Dark Heart, again, they've they've had an interesting time of it because they're not at this location anymore. Um and they weren't even open yet as of now. They're opening soon, but they're still around, and then of course the monk seller we've talked about pretty recently. But Mark, Redbus, Miraz, Palm Tree. I want Redbus. I said Redbust, their brewing equipment's dirty, but their beer's fine, and they're across from the homebrew store.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:45

So I believe they're actually linked to the homebrew store from what I understand. And uh I I've been to the homebrew store, phenomenal homebrew equipment. Uh good place to get your start if you're looking to try and get in the hobby. Redbus, like I said, nothing nothing bad to be to the location. Um Palm Tree.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:06

Redbus, if you want to, they will give you a printout of like what goes into that beer, and you can go across the street and get the ingredients to brew your own. Which is awesome. Morass, RIP, sour, yeah, fun place.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:19

Great brewing in its time. Um Palm Tree. Uh fun fact. Next to I gotta take DUI courses.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:28

Oh, yeah. That's right. That's your fun fact.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:30

And I still didn't go in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:33

It was an old Adalbertos. I tried going on Albertos. I tried going, but um, they they weren't open when they said ABSO fucking.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:41

Um but Dark was one of my favorite breweries when we would uh visit my my in-laws, and we would drive back to Auburn to Wat, back to our home. And uh always a great location. Uh they opened right around the time COVID started, unfortunate for them, but they are now open in Citrus Heights, which I feel like is a great boon to Citrus Heights brewing. There are not a lot of great breweries in the Citrus Heights area, and I think Dark Heart fills a niche there. Um for me, a better malt heavy beer brewery than an IPA brewery. Um they're Scotch Ale, phenomenal. Uh go visit them.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:24

Uh if you want to try them, never.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:25

In Citrus Heights, also next to a great pizza place that has a great bottle shop. Hey. So next uh next great, great one too.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:34

Next speech, Moxa, Catherine's Beer Garden. Out of bounds, goat house, dueling dogs. Um Moxa Great Brewery. I think we sing the phrase this quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:46

I mean, Catherine's Beer Garden. We've talked about recently, so I don't want to go too in into the weeds with them.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:52

Still around, still producing good food. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:54

Out of bounds, closed. They're no longer operating as a brewery. They have a restaurant, they do not brew their own beer, they contract any beer that is under out of bounds label. But man, it was cool to go to their brewery and get the uh the taste get the the flight.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:12

I think a 12 beer flight, the grapefruit IPA they had was phenomenal. Fun fact the original out of bounds location, not the fulsom one, now house is shred brewing, the one that I had on cast today. Or one of the clouds.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:26

Goat house and dueling dogs, which I've been to both, and um Goat House I wanted to like more.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:34

But dueling dogs had a great Goat House.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:38

I it was fine, but I had a better one at Dueling Dog where I had a fantastic Pilsner and it was a there was a certain adjunct into it that was like a I don't remember what it was now, but it was delicious. Um but both are decent. They're both like, you know, fine locations um out there in in Lincoln. Um worth visiting, I'd say. Um but is is dueling dogs out there?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:09

What was the one what was the one in Oak Grove that had to do with dogs?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

Oh, dueling dogs, we already talked about that one being closed. That one was we'll go back.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:22

I'm trying to remember because there was a there was an Oak Grove location that had dogs in the name that I went to the soft opening of and granted soft opening. It was not a good experience.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:34

Dreaming dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

Dreaming, yeah, uh, okay. Yeah. Thank you. Anyway, uh my favorite thing about Goat House is uh just the at least when I went, the owner was behind the bar. I had come back from getting the uh no seeds, no stems from Knee Deep. I I was talking to the owner, I talked to him like, hey, you know, I I came here because I was on my way back from Knee Deep and we had a great conversation. I brought him one of the the No Seeds No Stems. He poured me a pour of the quad they'd just done, you know, talking about strong beer, and it was a phenomenal quad. Um obviously this is not gonna be your your everyday experience, but I think the the combination of local uh just just friendly ownership, you know, you've got things for the kids, uh, you've got a decent amount of parking. I think it is definitely worth a uh a detour if you're you're gonna go tasting in that area, especially if you have kids. Um but yeah, the owner was awesome. I had a great experience at Goat House and uh definitely would visit again because you know, cute animals, good beer.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:48

Agreed. Next, Hillen Brand 5150, Lumis Basin, Moonraker, knee deep. Um Hillenbrand was when when we were doing um the beer me cast, one of our uh past iterations, I did a whole write-up on them. I wanted to review every single brewery in the Sacramento area, and Hillenbrand, I did one on, and it was awful because they were terrible, awful place to go. Owners were mean, their beer was wasn't good, the vibes were off. Um they said that they used every every the every beer that they had had something for they'd farmed in the area in it, which was a lie, and they even said that like uh I went over each beer. I'm like, oh, so what what did you farm that's in in this beer? Like, oh nothing. What about this one? Nothing. Okay, then why are you advertising that you're uh so bad experience there? Um Moonraker, come on, good, good, good stuff. Grab your uh knee deep, not not my favorite, but still around. Why what do you know of 5150 and Loomis?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:57

Oh Zero? The the zero in 5150.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:05

Um I wonder if they're still around. Let me look it up. Uh 5150.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:11

Because I Lewis Basin. I had a great experience in college. I had a buddy who lived in uh Forest Hill. You know, he had a stamp card at Lewis Basin, they did live music, everything I've ever experienced Lewis Basin was just a fun community brewery with very solid beer. I I have nothing bad to say about Lewis Basin. If I'm in Loomis, that is a brewery I would go to. No idea what 5150 is though. Or is it is it Jackson? Is it 5150?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:43

Because 5150, someone means you're calling because they're crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:47

Yeah, but I mean it's 5150, 5150.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:51

Yeah, yeah. So so you're calling this brewery crazy off the bat. And uh I don't remember anything crazy about them. Um might have been a misnomer there.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Yeah, they're crazy that they're just boring.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:08

Um crazy that there's just nothing exciting to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:12

Crazy, but that's how it goes. Alright, so next page. Crooked Lane Aubernail House, cool beer works barn, barm house, gold hill brewery. Um I've been to Crooked Lane, good stuff. Crooked Lane, right? Not a fan. I don't really like them.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:34

I I knew the uh brewery engineer and had uh kegs of their beer on tap at a house, and I I think Auburn Hill has has some good qualities. Uh I don't think they necessarily always show through, but uh definitely one that's stuck around for a reason. Um great, great little local Auburn place.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:54

Uh Cool Beerworks, have you been there? Sounds pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:58

That sounds pretty cool, and I've heard I've heard cool things about them. Um I don't know if they are in existence today. They're kind of in a weird part of California that is very Sacramento adjacent to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:11

It's hard to generate same thing with like Barmhouse and Gold Hill, like Placerville and Garden Valley are hardly Sacramento.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:20

We like to include our neighbors back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:23

I kind of want to go through these last few ones a little bit quick because they're not really Sacramento. So then we also have Jack Russell, Highway 50, Outbreak, Placerville, El Dorado, Solid Ground, uh Amador, which we've gone over quite a bit recently. Sutter Buttes, Grass Valley, 1849, Old Republic Rip, and uh Three Forks Bakery and Brewing.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:47

So uh right off the bat, solid ground, uh I will 100% claim. Solid ground, phenomenal, very solid brewery. Um Outbreak was a fun brewery. I don't believe they are in existence anymore, but uh out of the Plasterville area, those two were definitely my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:03

Um I hated Jock Russell because they're named after a dog, yet they would not allow you to bring your dog. Even on the outside patio. That's dumb. Stupid shit. I hated it. Don't advertise dogs if you don't want dogs. Don't have a dog in your fucking logo, piece of shit. That was another thing I hate about Hillenbrand. They um they had their own dogs roaming around, but would not let you bring your dog. Made no sense. Um But hey, we went through all of them. Um Republic, uh, this was the Nevada City location, of course. They also had a location in Sacramento, which is now movement.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:39

Always near and dear to my heart. They offered me a job at a college. I didn't take it. Probably a smart move. Um what they're they're Did I have a stamp in? King Kong.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:53

Nope.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:54

Damn it. I thought we were in the section and you had mentioned it. And we had visited around that time. What is the stamp, sir?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:04

Um, do you want me to give you a hint so you can get around to it? Um, okay. Um I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:11

You didn't we just talked about a bunch of things we didn't like. Gimme, gimme a region in relation to highway fifty.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:24

Oh not close to highway fifty.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:31

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:33

Close, but no.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:34

Hildenbrand. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:38

And I even showed you this page with 5150 on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:42

Uh I miss I I was not paying attention to the screen. Yeah, I Helen Bran.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:48

February 29th, 2020. February 29th, 2020. Thank you for a bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:54

Literally right before shutdown.

unknown 1:42:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:58

Yeah. And that's when I started filling it out, was like right before. I got the thing. Actually. I got this. Actually, you're not doing that though. Uh you're not gonna be filling that out much. Uh thing is you're gonna try. Um but hey, uh Sacramento has come a ways.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:19

Yes, for every brewery we've mentioned that has closed, another brewery has either increased production to accommodate or a new brewery may have opened. I mean, Deltaborne is not on that passport, right? Still going strong.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:32

No, they're not. Deltaborne's not on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:34

Um still going strong. Um I'm trying to think of breweries who opened in the past. Uh Geist House isn't on there, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:43

Maddie Groves isn't on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:45

Um Movement is not on there. Um, good brewery. Uh Balance Spearworks, I believe, is the one coming up soon in the former device location.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:58

Oh, there's a new, there's oh, there's a new tap room. I don't know if they're a brewery as well, but the old device location in Pocket is now.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:09

Interesting. Let me go here. I mean sometimes sometimes you you have businesses that rise like a Phoenix from the Ashes uh movement out of old Republic, out of American River.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:23

It's called Block Craft Beer and Kitchen. Now, this is just a tap room and restaurant for device. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:31

So like a mojo's like a mojo style business. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:36

Craft beer plus kitchen. I mean, it's it's a new place for craft beer, so yeah. Um and the their website is absolute garbage, won't let me do anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:46

So you go for chat GPT?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:49

No, uh the website.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:51

I went to their own website and it just with modern web building, if you if you cut corners, it might not be good. Maybe get a console. Get it get a human to at least monitor the AI.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:04

Yeah, that's oh anyway, so um, Asian Brothers back.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:09

Asian brothers brewing.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:11

We gotta go to Asian Brothers, we gotta do a uh woodland trip.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:14

I mean, still passionately brewing, even in 2026 when brewing is harder to do. I will I'll try that passion any day of the week.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:24

Yeah, no, I I I'm genuinely excited for the potential of I I have a feeling that that visit there is gonna be something different and and special. Like that's gonna be something that's okay. It's either gonna be overly hyped and we're gonna say, Oh, it's gonna be something great, or it's gonna be like, oh, it was just the dude that gave us a half-assed beer that was like not great. Um but I I I have that it won't be like that. I wanna know. And we're gonna be driving up in to drive to Ileton. We gotta drive along the river to get there, the delta to get there.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:01

Um that's gonna be in and of itself maybe we'll have a place to stay.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:07

We might have to do a uh we might have to do a video for that, post that on the Instagram, um, and then talk about it later. But um any final thoughts before I wrap it out uh for Sacramento Craft Beer Week and Sacramento Brewery History over the last decade.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:28

RIP uh RAP device, R.P. Track 7, uh R.A.P. Or Republic, and shout out to those who want to take up the mantle to keep trying to brew great beer in a time that's hard to group to brew great beer. Um it's expensive out here. It's not uh it's not uh something that you're gonna get rich quick on, so it's do you have the passion for it? And uh we love people who are passionate about beer. I mean, that's why that's why we're still doing this in 2026. So uh we look forward to trying your wares. We look forward to uh experiencing you know your your love for the scene. So uh to all those who may come, to all those who have come before us, thank you for the beer. Thank you for the memories.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:18

Um for those who've come before us, that is from a book by the way, called Red Rising. Red Yeah, Red Rising.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:28

It was like a common sign-off.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:30

Is that for all those who come before us? I think that's what that book I think that's that book. There's a book where like they say that for all that have come before us. Anyway, that really is. Um but uh yeah, no, I I I I I genuinely believe that with I don't think this is a craft beer bubble burst, by the way. I think that we're we're just experiencing a slow deflation to normalcy. Um I think with it though is gonna be a consolidation of who stick around with it are going to be those that are the most passionate, like you said. So this is a fun time to be a passionate craft beer enthusiast, craft beer drinker. Uh it's a good time to just be a fan for the product's sake versus for the hype of it all. The hype isn't really there, it's more so the product, and the product is art in a way, because it's a craft. So I I recommend going and try beer, like I say at the end of every episode. Um try it from a Sacramento brewery, try it from a local brewery, try try brewing yourself if you have the the gusto and the the want to. Um if you have questions on how to brew, you know, always let us know. And you can follow us on Instagram at BeerMeCast. You can email us at beermecast at gmail.com. This has been the Sacramento Craft Beer Week special. You could have listened to anything. You'll listen to this if you got this far, so we appreciate it. Um hopefully editing for me won't be too difficult with that mess up, but hey. Um thank you guys for listening. Go try a beer. Cheers. Cheers.