Colorado Kool-Aid

Andrew flies in from Colorado to hang with the west Alabama boys and talks some turkey.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to West Alabama Woodsman Podcast. I'm Clint. I'm Jason. I'm Jake. Hope you enjoy watching.

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Up front, up front, bigger, bigger.

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We back. Finally, we back. We like to make read.

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We back. We got a lot to talk about too. Well, been a lot going on. We back. Jake.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Well, Jake, he's still in school, still in class. He uh he got a career to think about.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Yeah.

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But today we got Andrew Muncher, my brother-in-law Andrew Muncher. Well, Andrew, what you got to talk about today, man?

SPEAKER_04 0:52

Man, I don't know. What y'all want to talk about?

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Well, we just folded up turkey season. And everybody knows how Clint's turkey season went. Jason?

SPEAKER_01 1:06

I'll your season was was rough.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

I don't have no turkey season to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Well, I got something better than about Jake's career and you know career and babies. They kind of along there in the same place. You gotta take care of both of them. Especially starting out. And it it's rough, but turkeys were pretty good for me. Always want better, always like better, but you ain't never satisfied, huh? I'm never satisfied when it comes to turkey hunting. But uh Florida was good. I didn't kill a turkey in Florida, but my wife did. I actually killed her first turkey, which was an Osceola, so you can't tell her anything now.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

She doesn't care to go no more, does she?

SPEAKER_01 1:55

She wants to go. She says she did. She wants a tribal, so I may have created the a monster. A good kind of monster. A good kind of monster, yep. So she she's wanting to go.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Which also means you may not be able to pull the trigger anymore.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

She might have to stay at home so long. But I did get out of my light, you know, I killed a couple of turkeys on there and I had one of them swing and misses, but you know, I usually have one of those every year. Maybe a couple of them, but I killed a couple here, and I think I killed one in Arkansas too. So it was it was it was good. You did knock another state off the list. I did. I did knock another state off the list. I did, I sure did. Arkansas, and they weren't it wasn't, they wasn't real easy. They wasn't real easy, but that's but my my buddy's place up there. He's he they do it right. You know, he's he's you know, which I'm very fortunate to be able to go and do stuff like that. That people just let me come and hunt just because we're friends, you know. So I was very fortunate to do that. He's got a very nice place. He's you know, he he's got a little bit of everything up there. He's got the ducks and deer, you know, some turkeys too, and he doesn't turkey hunt a whole lot, but he and I did get to hunt together the first morning, you know, because they, you know, they they had that cotton gin and rector, and you know, this time of year, they blowing and going. You know, they that because they they're loading seed and they're inoculating seed, and you know, when people gotta have seed, they gotta give it to them. So they're blowing and going this time of the year. But he it was wet and he did get to hunt with me one morning, so that was very special too. We got real close about three times, but we didn't I didn't get to kill with him there. But we we got close.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Well, there's always next year.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Oh yeah, yep. Absolutely. And I saw another another one die, so that I didn't kill. So, you know. Me and you had a pretty good hunt one morning. We did have a very good hunt, and I thought we were gonna seal the deal. I did.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

We we had him in range, but we weren't prepared for him.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

That's why that's why I always say it's best to sit. But Lord, you know, when it starts breaking, when you start breaking that 30-minute barrier, you're like And then you hear him, and you hear him way off the other way. And look, man, somebody got to do something. Somebody's gonna have to give or a little bit, you know. When you get to that 45 minutes, you're like, Lord, I can't stand it no more. You know, as I get older, I can't sit there as long as I use, you know, as I used to. That rear end starts hurting. Yeah. My legs go to sleep.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

I thought that bird, we were gonna kill that bird that morning.

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I thought.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

And then we killed, man. Man, this bird gobbled. I mean, it was on up in the morning, what, eight o'clock when he got fired off pretty good? Gobbling it up, gobbling it.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

No, I noticed that at that place a lot. It seems turkeys are getting they they more vocal later in the morning. Wonder why that is. I I I I don't know. I I don't know if it's me tromping around up there, you know. Because, you know, so you know, you you saw it, it's it's big hayfields. But it's got some beautiful hardwoods on both sides of it, and you know, where they roost, and it's got a little bit of got pines too on it. And I I don't I don't know. You know, there's predators, you know, here it's close to my house too, so I know what goes on around here. Because I catch them over across the street. My wife was like, I heard coach, I'll be going somewhere, and she's like, I heard coach, they were in the yard. I'm like, in the yard. So then next night, you know, they wake us up and I'm like, well, maybe they weren't in the yard, but they weren't far. Pretty dang close. But yeah, I don't know. Just some places are it's weird how some of the turkeys differ.

SPEAKER_04 5:54

We had one like like that last year in Kansas. Uh he got to go, me and my father-in-law, and I guess his father-in-law now, um all went up to Kansas last year, and I was sitting with the property owner. His hit or miss up there some mornings, it's like, I mean, you'll have 15 or 20 just gobbling our head off on the roofs. Well, this morning, still kind of cool and we didn't hear it. Windy. It was windy. Man, we we stood there, we got this little crossroads where we normally stand listen to kind of see what's gonna happen. It's a small property, a couple hundred acres, and we didn't hear nothing, and so him and my father-in-law split and went one way, and I went with the property owner the other way, and we just stand around listening. I mean, it's 30 minutes after daylight, and we still ain't heard nothing gobbling. We heard one gobble about two, three hundred yards off the way through the woods, and so we just sat down in this little hedgerow, and luckily we had turkey chairs, and that's a big tip for you there.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

I I do carry a chair a lot, but I'm very hard-headed and I don't use it like I should.

SPEAKER_04 6:51

Well, it saved our butt and we took it. Literally, yeah. We sat there and property owner actually sending my father-in-law pictures because I kept falling asleep. I sit there and call, you know, just a little bit, a couple yelps, a couple clucks. I fall asleep over there. 20 minutes later, I'd wake up, a couple yelps, a couple clucks. 915, first time we heard that turkey gobble. Yeah, it was a hundred yards at the end of the fence room. We saw our hen decoy and marched right to it and stood at 50, 60 yards and strut and drum, carry on, did all the stuff, and finally broke and come in properly on a kill. It's the first big gobbler he's ever killed, and so and it was a big one.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

You know, that the you know, those places out there, like I like I've I've killed in Kansas before. I've hunted in Kansas a good bit, I don't know, four or five times. You know, those turkey and hunted in Oklahoma five or six different times. And you know, those those Rios, man, though in Texas, they they roam. They roam so far. Or or or they can roam so far. You know, and they may be just you don't hear nothing, and then out of the middle, here they are. And they're coming, you'll hear them from a long way off, and they're coming. There's a like a little window. It's like a little window. You've you got to I I I really believe getting close, getting close to that turkey is of the utmost importance. But you can like sometimes you can set up, you know, a couple hundred yards in it, and sometimes that's just what you have to do. 100, 200 yards, sometimes you just can't. These open hardwoods early or hay fields and stuff, sometimes you've got to set up. And they will sometimes they will come, but I I think if you get close, they will be there faster.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Because you know, they're thinking their attention a little bit better.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Oh yes, you close. And they don't have to travel as far to get get to her.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

Or he can stand there at 200 yards and gobble and saying, okay, well she's gonna come off.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like like that that turkey I missed, you know. They never come in where you want them to. Never. They never do that. And I'm sitting there, you know, and I I get up there, I get behind that pond dam, you know, and I'm saying he is I I think he's less than a hundred, and he's right out in this little bottom. And I come off that pond down, come up to that ridge, and he's off on the other side of that ridge down in there. And I'm like, all right. I yelped real soft to him. And he went, oh the next time he gobbled, he coming. He's he's coming, and I'm like, then he quits gobbling, like, where is he? Where is he? Where is he? Where is he? I could hear him drumming, I could know where where to then hear, then here come the deer. And I'm like, oh Lord mercy. Well, the next time he gobbled, he's right there. And the only place that there was a treetop that I said, he ain't gonna come over there. Come right behind that treetop. I'm like I did like this. Didn't see him, I could hear him drumming. I was like, where is he? Where is he? Next thing he's standing over here, like another 40 yards. I'm like, golly. Well, he was standing there about 40 yards in the woods, and it was a last ditch effort, clean whiff. And it was a whiff. You could hear the air go by. But anyway, it was all about the Western Turks, you know. They they they just come out of the middle of nowhere. They come so far sometimes. You know, or you'll get them on the roost and they'll be gone. And two hours later, here comes one of them back.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

It's a different hunting when you go out there. Which I've only been to Kansas as far as west as as I've gone, but it's a totally different kind of hunting than than here.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

You know, it it it is, and then and there there's a reason why everybody wants to go to the other states other than the southeast, because these turkeys here, they you get you'll get beat up. So if you if you don't have a lot of time, like I don't have the I have the wrong job. You know, and if you don't have a lot of time to hunt, they will beat you to death. So by the time you get to, you know, in April, the middle of April, you know, you give out, you know, you you tired and you're still going hunting. Well, sometimes you go out there and hunt for three or four days in the Midwest and you kill a turkey the first morning, or you have a good hunt the first morning, you go the next morning, you kill one, and you know, you kill a couple of turkeys in two or three days. It's like it'll spoil you. That's good for your soul, son. It'll spoil you bad. That's good for your soul.

SPEAKER_04 11:40

It's like out there, if you can get one to go, they'll play ball. Yeah, yeah for the most part. Like last year, it was him, Jordan, his wife, my father-in-law, me. I didn't have a tag, and the property owner, we killed four birds in 18 hours. That's two years in a row. That's two years in a row. We've killed one within two hours of pulling up.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Yeah. I've I've I did that in Florida a couple of different times on my buddy's place in Central Florida. Going, I don't hunt in the afternoon anymore. You know, but you go down there and kill a turkey boy, it makes you make you feel good. Did what I came to do.

SPEAKER_04 12:18

And it'll make you act stupid when you get back home, too. Yeah, yeah. All that stuff you learn go out the window, you get disappo you get disappointed when you come back to Bama.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Sure. Now we had to work for those turkeys in Kansas that day. I mean, we it took us all day, day.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

It's a it's a weird type of hunting out there because like I said, it's only a couple hundred acres, and a lot of it's open, you know, he managed it for deer hunts. There's a lot of open hayfield type stuff with some That's right. With some cedar trees growing up in them. Yeah, and so you kind of gotta you take your time and then on the last day it's a mad the last afternoon, it's a mad dash because you don't want to blow the whole place out on the first morning running gunning and because then you ain't got nothing else to hunt. That's right. So you kind of got to play it slow. And every year we show up, and my father-in-law would be like, Yeah, he'd be all down in the dunks because they ain't gobbling. It's gonna be all right, we're gonna figure it out, and it always ends up working out.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

I I've always, you know, telling these targets not gobbling. I've always I've always used uh the the the phrase, just because he don't gobble don't mean you can't kill him.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

That don't mean he's not coming either.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

That don't mean he ain't coming. It ain't might not be as fun, but I don't know if I I don't even know why I'm doing why I do it, but I know I know after about week.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

I want to kill him. I want to win the game. A good hard turkey season. After about week four, three, four of going every possible opportunity that you can, you get to a point where, especially if you've done killed a few and you're still wanting to go, you're almost to a point where you're like, shit, I hope Turkey's hurry up then. I'm always ready to be over. I'm tired of getting up every day.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

But you have to go. You have to go. You have to go. You don't ever know. You don't ever know what can happen. And I've killed turkeys on days like that. It was like, man, I'm so tired. I could just stay, but I I'm not one that's to stay in the bed, especially during turkey season. Not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 14:12

Me staying in bed during turkey season is me waking up 30 minutes after I would have gotten up just to go turkey.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Yeah, if I didn't go, I was sick.

SPEAKER_04 14:19

Well, you never get out there and wish you hadn't went. Even on the worst morning, you never sit and go, you know, I wish I was just laying in the bed right now.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing ever bad about the world waking up. I went You're standing out there to get it.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Yeah, I went one time this year and it was an absolute cluster. So we live out there in in Denver, Colorado now, way on the other side of the country. It ain't like here where you can drive 20, 30 minutes in any direction and try to find some, you know, get permission somewhere or whatever. I mean, it's a two-hour drive for me, anywhere, any direction to try to go get on some public and chase some birds. So I got up one morning and drove all the way out to this. It's a state park, but they let you hunt on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Yeah. So I'm sitting there at the gate at 5 15, then drove two hours. I was like, you know what? Let me grab my calls. I hadn't messed with my calls a whole lot. Can't find my calls.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

I drive all the way back to the house, get my calls, drive all the way back to the ain't even got any chills. I don't have any channels either. Yeah, it's all in the same bag, left it at the house.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Where'd Walmart at?

SPEAKER_04 15:21

I know, right? So I go all the way, get get finally get all the way back out there, and there's 14 jokers signed in in front of me on this like 500 acres you can hunt. I was like, I'll just go find somewhere else. I drove around all day, and with the mountains, how they are out there. I mean, you can drive all day and not even shock a turkey up because it, you know, it don't it might be 500 yards of the closest turkey, but there's a whole mountain range in between you. Drove around all day and didn't hear the first turkey job, but saw a couple of them in a hayfield, it still better be in the bed.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

You know what I mean? Like you gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Well, you you you may have made a hunt for tomorrow. That's right. Or the next day, or whenever you can go again. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but you may have scouted a bird for tomorrow. You know, that's that the the only thing that there is if there's a good thing about not killing one and you almost did, you got one to go back to tomorrow. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Or you find, hey, I ain't seen a track all morning. I might not want to hunt here tomorrow. I may go try somewhere else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

You know? You you you you might better. You know, that's what we're talking about that stuff. Um my wife thinks I'm alone anyway, you know, this turkey hunting stuff. But we went up there to the bingo parlor. They wanted to go to the what was it? The palace. Yeah. Uh what was the dude's name? Uh Tenpenny? Some tenpenny dude. Musician. Yeah. Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell 10 penny. But they were like, we're gonna do you want to go see to Mitchell, see Mitchell time. I'm like, who the hell was Mitchell? I don't know. I yeah, yeah, sure. Uh yeah, I get, you know, we went to we went and ate and uh our neighbors up the street, you know, our friends, we all piled up in the car and we all went over there and so you know, we really made it a late night. I think we rolled up like 11 o'clock, you know, it was late. You didn't even have a nightcap, man. So the next morning. So the next morning, my alarm goes off at like 420. And I ain't got about two miles to go, but my I woke alarm went off at 420. I get up and my wife says, Are you going turkey hung? Yeah. Yeah, I sure am.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

As a matter of fact, I am. I'm breathing, ain't I?

SPEAKER_04 17:30

Yeah. Yeah, them long drive mornings will get you when you wake up when that alarm goes off at 2.30, 3 o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I used to hunt with a buddy of mine over there in Forest, Mississippi, and BMW National Forest. And I remember we were doing a night job one time. And I left. We got off work earlier, or I left early, like Thursday night or early Friday morning. I left about 2.30 and drove over there to Forest. Got there at 4.30. Went hunting. And it was when I got on the other side of Meridian. Woo! I was sleepy. Looking for some coffee.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

What y'all got planned for the fall? Y'all got any hunts, hunts planted in the fall?

SPEAKER_01 18:15

No, no, I don't have anything planned for deer season.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

I don't know what my deer season is gonna look like. Not with not with a newborn. You might do better hunt at home. Mm-hmm. Send them back porch. I can't say I've never killed an deal in my back porch. I've killed more than one.

SPEAKER_04 18:33

See, now they don't they don't have deer out there in Colorado, but I think we're gonna try to do an over-the-counter elk hunt. They don't have deer there where you at? I mean they got they got mule deer, but it's one of the hardest, it's one of the hardest states to get a mule deer tag in in the in the west. Yeah, they they got mule more mule deer than any any of the other states, but everything's a draw, so you can't get a get a draw tag is pretty hard, but we're gonna try to do an over-the-counter elk hunt.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

The rifle or bow?

SPEAKER_04 19:00

Yeah, third rifle season. So it'll be right before Thanksgiving. Got to deal with a little bit of snow, but it'll push them out, push them down out of the uh out of the mounds a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

That's all that that's a uh elk hunt with a bow is a bucket list for me.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

My brother's going, he went last year. And he's going back this year in September.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

I've always wanted to do that, and they say it's just it's just like turkey hunting, but you got a thousand-pound turkey.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

And a bunch of eyes looking at you sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

So I want to go ahead and get that guarantee with that with that rifle first. You know me and my bow hunting experience.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Well, it for my bow hunting experience are.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

I've been attracted an elk 400 yards.

SPEAKER_04 19:46

Tracked it all the way up into Wyoming. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Oh, yeah, I got I I need them close.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

What about any duck hunting? Y'all do any duck hunting?

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Yeah, yeah, I go. I hunt with my buddies in uh northeast Arkansas. You know, we'll go up there once a year, and uh, I've been on some crazy duck hunts the last, well, a crazy duck hunt. My like in 2020, my buddy called me and he said, uh, Josh said, hey, you know, I'm doing my I'm doing my 41, you know, my my uh my 43, you know, waterfowl species in in North America. He said, I want to go kill the king eider. He said, I want you to go with me. And I'm like, where are we gonna go do that at? St. Paul, Alaska. Man, I didn't even know where that was. So I did that. We did that in uh the hunts were like kept they kept get putting off because of COVID. And they were already two years, two or three years in advance. But we ended up going in in 24. 2024, we went the January of 2024. And that's where we met our friends in Northeast Arkansas. We met them in the some of them in a hotel lobby in Anchorage, and then when we got to the for our uh charter flight to go to St. Paul, we were all there together. We all rode together. So that's how we met those guys. And uh each said, I want you guys to come duck hunt with me. We will. You know, we didn't know them and they didn't know us. Don't ask twice, right? You know, you know, we went up being you know the best of friends, and you know, and I went up there and stayed several days and you know, I've ate with you know with their families, you know, Chase's family, Tyler's family, and and uh Cody Banning, he's fantastic. So, you know, that's how we met those guys out there, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

You're on the other side of the world and you meet people that some of your best friends, it's pretty cool. All because of hunting.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

We've said that a time or two.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Yes. Yes. That's basically how you and I met. That's it. You turkey hunt?

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

You yeah. We didn't know how bad it was, though.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

No. Hmm. Shared a many of stores. Yes. Yep. So you were talking about you fried some pheasant a minute a little while ago. Or you you said a little while ago that you had fried some pheasant.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yeah. Well, you know, I go s uh when Andrew was talking about, you know, asked me where to kill them at, you know, we right up there about two miles from Chase's duck camp, my buddy in Arkansas, and they got a little Oh, I remember you sending me pictures of that, yeah. Yeah. And man, they'll package them and everything for you, and I don't know if they package them all up. They'll put them in a black bag and we'll, you know, disperse them out among each other. And we fried some out here the other night. I do them just like my turkey. Yeah, it's good. Just clean them up real good. And man, I'm chilling. You throw you throw them in that fryer at 325. About two or three minutes. About two or three minutes, you pulling them out, they golden brown. They are I got some in there. In that refrigerator right there. They're absolutely delicious. You ran a chucker? Chuckers in there too. We had uh chucker pheasants. Yeah, I didn't see any quail in there, but there was some he had had a tower shoot the day before. Yeah. Or it may have even been that morning, and we went that afternoon, and he said, I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you, there's gonna be a bunch of pheasants out there. We'll kill them. And he said, The guys before you, they had they had a tough time. So I don't think wing shooting was on their specialty list. I said, Don't worry about the dog, we take care of them for you.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

We uh we I went on my first pheasant hunt, quail hunt, choker hunt with Andrew here and our father-in-law and our brother-in-law. These are just pin race birds, but I mean, but it's not. I mean that's what we did. Yeah, we went in in Georgia. That's the coolest thing I've ever done, really. I mean, as far as wing shooting, man, I've never done it seen the dogs work. Um that idea's pretty cool watching the dogs work. I do like that. Andrew here, he struggles on the shooting part.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Bad, bad, bad. It happened to the best of us.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Look, we had this quail. You know how pen raised birds are, they don't always get up a bit.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

And so we're hunting over this little English pointer and it points little quail. We go over there and we can't get it up and throwing a hat at it, trying to get it to fly. Well, finally it flies and lots in a limb. Well, I'm borrowing one of his brownie shotguns, 12 gauge. And so, I mean, I'm I'm from here to the T floor. I'm I don't want I don't want to blow it up and not have nothing left to eat. So I'm just trying to, you know, I'm leaning out in front of a little bit, just want to hit in the head of something because if I shoot it that close, there's gonna be nothing left. I swung and missed. And I've been living it down. I still ain't living the damn. He gets the heck about every time I see. I think he missed one once.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Look, that was the first afternoon. You know, he had a few missions. What do you mean you everybody's gonna miss at some point? But it was uh, I missed once. I'm not shooting again. He go in, he's gonna enter the tomb. The next morning, same thing. Hell one of them one of them misses. Oh man. And we got together that morning at daylight with the the people with the guy we were hunting with, and we parked by this big ass red barn. And the and then we got out, walked across the field and hunted whatever. We're easing back, got up under the truck. I said, Andrew, you got your gun loaded? He said, uh-uh. I said, Oh here's mine. See me get the broad side of that barn.

SPEAKER_04 25:27

I didn't even see it coming.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

He got me good. He got me real good. Oh Lord, he got you. Yeah. So we got two dogs. I steward on that one for waiting on it. He was waiting on it.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

My wife got after me this year. We got two dogs that we do a little pheasant hunting with, and we went to South Dakota, and she didn't want to carry a gun. She just wanted to walk and watch dogs work. They're her babies, and so we're walking too.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

You were up there hunting? Mm-hmm. Man, I went turkey hunting. Uh I finished my grand slam in South Dakota. Yeah. Uh South Central South Dakota, and they were everywhere. We're going again. Everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

We're going again this year.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

After the second day, you were like, you were like, you didn't even say there's a pheasant. You just quit saying it. They were everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 26:13

Yeah, especially in the springtime, too. If you're up there in the springtime when they're when they're breeding and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Yes, yes, that's that's what they were doing.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

Yeah. Yep. But we had one get up at, I don't know, 10 steps. We're in them thick cattails, like bad thick, you know. And one gets up and I swing and miss twice. I'm shooting a little side-by-side shotgun. And she got on me and was just, I mean, just poking, you know, just really giving it to me. And I finally said, I think it's actually motivated her to get a shotgun and go shoot next year so she can outdo me. Because she was like, I think I could have hit that one. You know what, you know what's bad when you can see his eyeball when it's that close and you still miss it?

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Oh yeah. Yeah. Golly. Well, we were walking, we were walking out there in the dark as we were hunting in South Dakota. And those pheasants would get up and they would scare the crap out of me.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

Oh, and they cackle?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 26:59

Man.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

And then like some turkey, you know, we would sit down, we sat down on some turkeys at this one of these little farms and where we hunted, and you could hear them doing that, doing that whistle of whatever their calling was they doing. I guess they were gobbling too like a turkeys were. I don't know. They were all over the place. That was so cool.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Well, we need to go up there and do that. Well we could go to Cameron's. I would love to go to Cameron's.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah. You'll kill quail. I went uh we went over there, me and a bunch of us went over there to uh Westerville about three or four years ago and hunted. It was it was a tower shooting, it was fun. We went back and cooked crawfish at night. It was in February, it was great, it was great. We had a good time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

That place we went, it was at Homer, Georgia, we went to. Huh? I think that's what it was. Well I don't remember exactly the outfit or was, but I can't remember. They were great. You know, it was uh Yeah, they did it right.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

They had it all set up.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

I've never done anything like that. No, when we went to that Westroad, they did they fed us lunch and all that stuff, but I like to go and hunt two or three days and and stay somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

Yeah, yeah. We did an evening and then a morning. Which was, I mean, was was plenty. Yeah. But like I said, I'd like to go a couple days and do it.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

I'm trying to get him to come to South Dakota this year. When you buy your license or you get two five-day periods that you can hunt. You can pick any anywhere in the season to hunt. So I'm going twice, two different weeks.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Were y'all road hunting or are you going hunting with a uh No, I wouldn't I you can there's so much.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

That's the good thing about South Dakota and why everybody goes, is they they do have a lot of birds, but they have more because of ducks unlimited, they have more walk-in access than pretty much any other state does.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

We saw some of that walk-in area.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

So we hunt a lot of waterfowl production areas because they got they got water on them, they got cattails, they got kind of everything they need. And uh and we hunt some ditches too, because you can you can road hunt and hunt off of ditches and stuff. So I killed a couple last year out of the ditches, but what is it?

SPEAKER_01 28:53

What is it like? You gotta be like 1,500 feet from a house.

SPEAKER_04 28:57

Yeah, I think I don't want to say on here what it is, but I think it's like six or seven hundred feet. There's a certain number, maybe it's fifteen hundred feet from from livestock or like four hundred yards or something. Yeah, and but it is you know, other than that, you can walk pretty much any ditch is considered public.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Well, now, which I will say that there ain't many houses. There ain't nothing out there. No, uh not at all. Well, we saw a lot of pheasants where there was no house in sight.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

And then the nice thing out there too is if you shoot a bird and it falls on private, your dog can go get it without permission, or if you lay your shotgun down, you can go over there and get it without permission. So, yeah, you can you can find some birds just because there's there's so many of them, especially early in the season before I mean I forget how many roosters they kill every year up there that are, you know, recorded from their own.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

I mean, it was just like as soon as we got in South Dakota, when Trevor and I got in South Dakota, we were like, good gracious, they were everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Let's go kill another turkey in South Dakota.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

I want to go. My first place to finish my grand slam, I wanted it to be in the Black Hills.

SPEAKER_04 30:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

But you know, like we talked about, you know, with work in springtime, you know, there's ice off busy in the spring, you know, because it's getting warm and stuff we can't do in the winter, we gotta do it in the springtime or when it's warm. And you know, I didn't know enough people that had hunted the Black Hills publicly. You know, I I didn't, I I didn't want I didn't want a wasted trip.

SPEAKER_05 30:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

You know. I I did not that, you know, I'm used to being unsuccessful, you know, turkey hunt, being an unsuccessful turkey hunt, but I I didn't want to, I didn't want to, I wanted to finish my grand slam, and it wasn't a big deal if I didn't have killed one, wouldn't have killed one because I would be I'd be probably already done it by now. I mean, May, and I probably would have already gone this year, but you know, I did it last year. You know, I didn't want it to be a busted trip. I wanted it to be a good trip. So and I knew, golly, probably, probably 10 people that I probably had talked to five or six of them, and I knew them basically personally or through a mutual friend or something that had hunted with this guy. And uh it was on the Rosebud Indian Reservation, and this guy uh he's he he's he's a killer among everything. He elk hunts and turkey hunts, he mule deer hunts, whitetail, he he's a big bow hunter, Charles de Bray. And uh we hunted on the uh on the tribal reservations out there on that on the rivers, and it was it was you know every place we went to there was turkeys. We might not have killed them, you know. But y'all hunted hard and hard long days, didn't you? You ain't lying. We hunted, he picked us up at 4 30. You know, you know, it don't get dark out there in May. It don't get dark out there until nine o'clock. So from 4 30, we we we started heading back somewhere around, it was after 8 o'clock every night. We we got back to the we ate to the little uh Mexican restaurant there in winter every night, which is great. It's fantastic food was fantastic. We ate there about every night, and and it was we usually got into bed about 11 o'clock, 11 30.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Back up at 4 30.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Man, it was and he was he wasn't gonna be late. It wasn't gonna be no 4 35, it was gonna be like 428, 429. He was but we killed him.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

That's one of them trips you need to come home and rest up from.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

We had to rest up for sure. Mm-hmm. And y'all drove out there. We drove out there, but what we we split it up. My ideal trip, when when you get a trip that's 12 hours, which is which winter South Dakota, I think, was 18 or 19 hours. It may have been 20 hours. I don't know, but we split it up. If you can split it up, drive 12 or 13 hours. I think we I think we drove 12 or 13 hours the first day, which we broke it up. We left here at 5 o'clock. We went to D ⁇ W Outdoors in Jonesboro, a little duck hunt spot, old hunting spot over there that that my buddies, that's who they do business with over there. And uh I liked it. I sold Trevor said, look, I said, this is gonna be this is gonna be a vacation. So we left out of here at like five o'clock. We rolled out. And we got to DW at like 11 o'clock. 11 o'clock that morning. We went in there, we watched where they had stuff on sale. We bought a couple turkey chairs, they had some tungsten on sale, we bought tungsten and you know, whatever else, and uh got us something to eat and fuel and we hit the road. And we drove to uh St. Joseph, Missouri. And that was a very, very nice town. Very nice town. And we stayed there and we got up next morning. We were gone like six or seven o'clock next morning. I think we we got up and went over there in winter at I don't know. We were we were settled in at like three o'clock. That ain't bad.

SPEAKER_04 34:20

So it's only it's only like a nine from Denver. I it's only like a nine-hour drive. Really? But yeah, it's kind of no-brainer. I drove all the way to Mitchell, so I mean, depending on where you're at in the state, it's not even that far, but I drove.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Winter was uh South Central.

unknown 34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

The rosebud sounded familiar. That's right there when you cross over the river.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Yeah, there's a couple of them right there on the road.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

There's a there are the inner, what is that, Interstate 90? There's another big city up there, but it's a big city, which winter was not big, but it was another big city was to the north of there. I don't know what it was, but anyway. But it was so that's where I for that's where I wanted to finish my grand slow. I know I've told the story before, but it I I just wanted to go, I wanted it to be, you know, successful as possible, you know. Just because that's that's all I've ever, this is all I want to do. But if I but if I do it now, when I do my states, and that probably will never happen, I just want to go and hunt as much as I can because it's fun going out there. But I'm just thankful that I knocked off on a another southeastern state. But I thought about doing those first.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

Yeah. A little easier to access, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:32

Get the hard ones out of the way. Yeah. Get the hard ones out of the way first. Then I will go west. Have you gotten Georgia yet? No, I have Georgia. I don't have I I do I have somebody that I know that's involved with turkeys for tomorrow. And I've talked to him a couple of different times. And I actually met him through my buddy that I hunted with over there at Forest. We hunted that public land we used to hunt together. And uh, Chip Davis. Extremely, extremely nice guy, great guy. But I know he's got some connections, but I do have another friend of mine in Northeast Georgia, but he's got a hunting club in Virginia. West Virginia? West Virginia or Virginia? I don't know. Either one. Anyway, he said, we go kill a turkey up there. So got a connection there, and he might help me out for Georgia, Northeast Georgia.

SPEAKER_04 36:21

What about Hawaii? Now that would be a hunt.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

I ain't got no connections in Hawaii. You can go kill a bird there though. Yes, they got Rios on the big island. That'd be fun. But that's gonna probably that would have to be my wife. She loves that. She might be a little. I asked her about a couple years ago, hey, you want to go to Hawaii to kill a turkey? If I go to Hawaii, I'm not turkey hunting. I'm gonna be on the beach.

SPEAKER_04 36:45

Make it a two for one, and they got axis deer out there too.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

You know, we we talked about taking my wife, your wife, Tiffany, David, all to Hawaii, and then we all go kill some turkeys.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

And some axis deer. Hey, it's a win and lift a win for everybody. Let them get on the beach and do their thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

That sounds like a wonderful idea.

SPEAKER_04 37:06

That's the nice thing about my wife liking bird hunting, is it ain't nothing for us to go bird hunting because she likes to go too. Mm-hmm. She likes to go. Mm-hmm. Or fly fishing. My wife likes to fly fish too. That's a win. Yeah, really. Oh, win. You know, that's yeah, that's some fun right there. It's like catching a bass on topwater, except it's trapped. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

Drifting a little dry fly or uh. It is fun. I I do enjoy Jordan. That's her big thing. It's just like you said she liked to do that. Where did y'all go? Oh, y'all, y'all just went, didn't you? No, no, no. We went to Georgia. Um y'all went just a couple of months ago. Maybe until long ago. No. Up there around Blue Ridge? Blue Ridge. Yeah. Whatever it is up there. Yeah, Blue Ridge. One of those places up there. Um. And went back in March, first of March. And went with a guy. Um to Fly with his outfitter. He was a jam-up dude. He was he was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Really?

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Yeah. It was cool that morning. Um we caught a f we caught some trout. Poor George. He sat in the back pregnant. Oh golly. Sat in the back of that boat, going down that river, bouncing off rocks. She ain't caught shit. I did catch some trout, but she didn't care. Man, she just had fun.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

Well, that's having fun anyway, just being out there.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

My wife, that's one thing about her. She's gonna have fun. She's gonna have fun.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

She's having fun back there, just making memories. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

Mine likes to take pictures too.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Pictures, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:43

Get out there in the river taking pictures and taking pictures of me, taking pictures of fish.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Yeah. Taking pictures of the dogs. Well, sometimes I'm good enough. Sometimes I kill enough stuff where I need a photographer. It ain't very often. Oh me. Oh uh, my my buddy, my buddy Quentin, whose place we hunt at in uh Florida, uh he texted me one morning, he said, he said, let me know when you need a photographer. I'm like, hopefully we will. Now we had already gotten, we had already gotten too close on a turkey, and I know he saw us, and then we moved, and I said, look, the only thing we can do is go and move and go sit somewhere else. We'll sit not too far from Oregon because we hear heard some more turkeys. And uh we sat down and ended up turkey was gobbling behind us, another one. I think that one we spooked, he started back gobbling, and this one up here close to the highway, he was started gobbling. I think that's the one we we killed. And so I texted back, I said, we need a photographer. He said, I'll be there shortly.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Yeah, sometimes you have to set that phone up on the bumper of the truck to get you pictures. Yeah, but on seven.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

Yeah, yeah. And then you run over trying to get it just right. That timer is the greatest thing ever. Well, that's what I took my pictures in Arkansas with. Yeah. Chase he had already he had to go to work. Well, he that was Tuesday morning. And you know, he had to go to work and this morning. I had to hunt it by myself.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

So how many times have you set that phone up, hit the timer, run over there? By the time you get right here, the phone goes, poop, yeah, falling over.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

Well, she got she got me a uh tripod like that.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Now there you go. It it worked out. I put it on the trailer right there, and I put it in I got there in front of Chase's uh fish pond or his uh reservoir pond and uh put that thing on the trailer and he had a trailer park right there and that I'm gonna picture it right there. It worked out good.

unknown 40:48

Cool.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

I messed around this year for the first time with a wearing a GoPro on my head doing all that pheasant hunting. And I I've never been in like cameras and all that, and I'm not gonna post it nowhere, but it was cool. At the end of the night, I'd sit there and put some little videos together and text it to my wife and text my father-in-law and send it to people, and you get to watch the dogs work. It's pretty cool. You got tomato glasses, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Yeah, I got tomato glasses. Yeah, yeah. And those things are great. I did some great videos of that. Some turkeys uh out in the field at my buddy's place in Safford. And uh they got some cool videos of turkeys out there fighting. And I put I make put some stuff on TikTok. My have I don't really watch TikTok, but my my wife told me several years ago, she said, you need to put all of those trapping, you need to put your trapping videos on TikTok. Why would I do that? Because people want to see it. They want to see what you're doing. Okay, whatever. So she sent me up a TikTok account, and I've got a lot of trapping videos on there too, you know. That ain't nothing but me sending you funny stuff.

SPEAKER_04 41:49

Look, I told him funny stuff. I told him the other day, ain't no telling how many videos I've sent y'all's way on accident because y'all are one of the few pages I follow on there. And I'll be on there scrolling at the bottom and it says share with West Alabama Woodsman out bumping on accident. I'll probably send half a dozen videos y'all's way.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

I like some funny stuff, man.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

I got scrolling through TikTok. This has been heck, probably two years ago. Whenever you started doing that, I didn't know you'd posted TikToks, and I seen Turkey Man, whatever it is on there, your name. I get to scroll, I'll run down a rabbit hole on Jason's page of trapping stuff. I'm like, man, that is very cool. Like, so I guess I was one of the ones that wanted to watch it. Yeah. You know. I I I tell you. And so now look, I mean, heck, you got me in jack trapping. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

And, you know, so you know, it's it's it's funny how it's funny how the world works. You know, we've got all this liberalism and you know, and stuff, and people like, oh, they don't want to see stuff, they don't want to see stuff dying, or uh, animals in a trap, or oh, it's suffering, you know, you know, let it go, or you know, whatever, you know what I'm like, Lord, I'm gonna get banned from TikTok and whatever all the platforms I put stuff on. But one of the I had one coyote video that I put on there. I drove up on my four-wheeler and I started videoing, and he standing on the he's in a in a trap on a skyline on the road. It was one of the roads over there in Benavoli, you know, it's next to in a cutover. And I put a trap next to a log. And I caught him like the like the first or second night, and he was bouncing on that skyline. And I come up to him, he may have barked or out a few times, and I've talked about it. That thing's got, I don't know what it looked, I don't know what it is now, but it had like eight or nine thousand views, and it had like three or four thousand views in like the first week. It's crazy how you know people don't. Really want to watch it, but they do want to watch it, you know. It's one of those things, I don't know, it's kind of kind of weird, you know. They want to see stuff like that, you know. And that's what she told me. And and of one of my one of my trapping videos, it was only, you know, the metaglasses only do a three-minute video. And you know, from start to finish, for me putting a putting a trap in the ground, throwing everything on the ground, starting digging, usually I can be out of there. And if it ain't if the dirt's good, you know, if it's real dirt's real good, it ain't no problem, you know, you know, bedding it, you know, and it's just setting their rock solid and covered up, dirt, good dirt, no rocks. I'll be out of there about six or seven minutes. But the three minutes that I did bedding that trap, the views were unbelievable. Like I still, I still got people liking it now, and it was three months ago. Nobody does it anymore, you know? No, and they don't, and they and they don't ever, and the thing about trapping is you can't, you don't know anybody. Like, I don't know, I mean, I know a few other people just because I do it, but you know, I back then when I started trapping, I had my buddy in Selma show me what to do one time. You know, and I, you know, there wasn't even the social media wasn't even what it is now. I mean, I don't know if there was TikTok 12 or whenever 15 years ago. I don't know. But now people can get on social media and watch somebody bet a trap. Oh, that's what you do. Oh, okay, that's cool. Okay, that I okay, I I get it now. And it's you know, because my metaglass, you know, they're sitting there looking at my trap right here. Everything I'm doing is right here, and it's this close. Yep, you know, so you can you can see everything what's going on. You know, all my tools are here, my stake driver, my hammer, you know, my scent bag, my sister, everything's right here. So they, you know, they can look at that stuff, you know, you see, you know, digging your hole, which where you want to put your levers, where do you want the dog to point? It's just, you know, kind of irrelevant, but you know, you can do what, you know, it wherever which way it's pointing. That's you know, it doesn't matter. That's something you would enjoy doing.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

I will. Well, you can't, that's one thing you can't do in Colorado at all.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Really? No trapping in Colorado.

SPEAKER_04 46:18

Now, I be misspoke. I know for sure you can't do it on public land. You might still do it on private, but I I don't think you can do it on private. And they're trying to pass right now, they're trying to ban all fur sales in Colorado, period. Um so yeah, that's one of the things I can't. Maybe when I maybe when we move back down here, I'll get into it, but you can't.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

I mean, but most people around here don't really do it for for No, there's no money in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:41

There's a few people do it for hire. Well, see, it's a little different out there because you got when you got the good winter coats. You got you know, Kyle winter coats and the west bobcats.

SPEAKER_01 46:49

The western and northern coats is where that's where you're at.

SPEAKER_05 46:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:52

You get some big bobcats. I mean, I think Texas has some of the better spotted bobcat bellies. They had a big sale this year on bobcats. They were like record record numbers this year.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

But I remember, I don't know, five or six, seven, eight years ago, them uh those big spotted belly cats. Oh, you know, usually don't have a lot of spots on the belly, but you know, you go west and you know, west and north and northwest, you know, they f they get very, very spotted. And I think some of those, some of those pelts were fifteen hundred, two hundred, fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_04 47:23

Even just a marginal one. I was watching the video on it the other day, even just a marginal one if it's got plenty of spots, but it's not real wide, or not real wide or real white, yeah. Or sell them for like four or five hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 47:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Yeah, most people right here just do it as a hobby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:37

Or just you know, predator management. Yeah, yeah. That's what I do it for.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

Because I mean I well, it's something else to do in the offseason.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah. And I yeah, and I don't need any more, I don't need anything else to do. But you know, that that's uh them them pelts and stuff, could you imagine? If you had to go to work the next morning at six o'clock and you had to come home and and and skin three or four coats, a bobcat or two and some coons. It'd make you get good at it quick, wouldn't it? You ain't lying. You know, you gotta be set up for that stuff, too. You know, I but I, you know, I I'm not I ain't skinning a coon out for 50 cents. No.

SPEAKER_04 48:15

Most people are skinning them out now or just doing it to have themselves or, you know, something.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

Yeah, I that that's a that's a whole another argument in itself, though, you know. Those predators are rough on these turkeys.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

Bad. They already get enough pressure from us.

unknown 48:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

And you know, well, we have a pretty liberal turkey season.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Yeah. 45 days, 44 than a lot of a lot of places.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

Well, and what's the limit down here? Is it four?

SPEAKER_01 48:48

Four. I honestly, you know, I would I wish I wish they would cut it back.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

Yeah. Well, I mean. Yeah, I mean, if most people would record most of their birds, they may know what night would have to.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Well, that's a big problem too. That is that is a very big problem too. You know, I had a guy stop me on a dirt road. I ain't gonna say where it was at, but I had a guy, I was walking down a dirt road, or I was coming out on a dirt road, and a guy stopped me, and this guy didn't know me. He introduced himself and I introduced myself, you know, and he killed turkey. And he he proceeded to tell me this is we still have about two weeks left. He proceeded to tell me that he'd killed seven. And I'm like, come on, man. Yeah, come on.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

It's hard to it's hard to get people to buy in, though. You know, I remember when I first started hunting, this was four or five years ago, I didn't grow up turkey hunting, and I was hunting chocolate management area. You'll be driving through there third week of the season, you know dang well you got hens sitting on a nest and timber companies up there burning the whole hillside, 80 acres, 90 acres, 150 acres at a time. And it don't make it, it don't make it right to not follow the rules and regulations. But when you drive by seeding, you know, 150 turkey eggs burning up, it's hard, you know.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Yeah, that's that's a that's another one of those arguments too. I that I personally don't know enough about. But you know, if we're gonna burn, just do it in the winter.

SPEAKER_04 50:18

Yeah. I mean, I get like you there's certain times you gotta or and then you got deer hunters, you know. Oh, you can't burn an area, yeah. But but Or burn two weeks before the season opens.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

You know, where they at least got a chance. If you drive down this road right here, February, 1st of March, you're gonna run through some smoke. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Everybody around here burns. And they they like burn for turkeys. There was a fire up here in January, February. I had to turn around and I had to go all, I had to go, I think I had to go to Union. I had to go highway elect or come, I had to come in from Knoxville, or either come in through uh go Shiloh and then come back out from Gina. Never got out of hand. Yeah, it was just that the fire was right there on the road and it was you couldn't you couldn't see. You couldn't see nothing. Well, I had to turn around. Good gracious, but they the far through commission come through shortly after that.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Well, I guess it's about time we wrap this thing up. Andrew, thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_04 51:21

Well, thank y'all for having me. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

I love to have you again, man.

SPEAKER_04 51:25

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

Hopefully you and your wife can come see us again soon and we can do another mobile have some more stuff to talk about. I'm sure we will. We probably we have a lot of. I'm sure we will. Oh man, we sit here and talk for hours.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

I know Miss Jake.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

I know he's probably and I was a little unprepared on the ending it off on the Bible club today, but well I am too.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

But I I I but I I but I can see you know, you know, we can we can say that the the Lord has definitely blessed you with a little buddy and Lord has blessed me with a with a healthy baby, and I'm very thankful for that.

SPEAKER_03 52:03

And my wife is healthy, so you can't ask for much more than that. Nope. Cannot. Cannot.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

So thank y'all for watching. I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

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