He Started With $1,000… Now Ships 5,000 Shirts Weekly

This is a real one with a guy who took a heat press, about a $1000, and turned it into a full-blown printing and design shop, DotCom Branding.

Now he’s running thousands of shirts a week, doing wraps, branding, and anything else that comes through the door. But it didn’t come clean or easy.

We get into the chaos of small-town business, scaling from nothing, setbacks like a house fire, and what it actually takes to keep things moving when the work never stops.

It’s not polished. It’s just what it looks like when you build it from the ground up and keep it alive.

Grab a coffee, pull up a chair, and get to know KC with us. 

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Check out KC's shop: https://www.facebook.com/dotcomvinyl/

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right, so let's get started because uh Casey is a busy, busy man.

SPEAKER_05 0:05

He's probably thinking about all the things he's gotta do right now.

SPEAKER_03 0:09

Wondering what's not being done.

SPEAKER_05 0:11

But how's the how's the squad car graphics going? I forgot to give you a heads up about that, and he just showed up and was like oh no, they're going good. Yeah, yeah. You think you'll be able to do something with that?

SPEAKER_03 0:20

I just gotta figure out the hood now.

SPEAKER_05 0:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 0:23

I don't even re to be honest, like I don't even remember all the things. I'm like, can you just go and handle this? Because I don't remember what we picked for what portion of the car.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Oh, yeah. So he's good at that, though.

SPEAKER_05 0:34

He could probably Oh yeah, that's what I said. And like let him so Jake came back from that and he's like, uh, Casey's like he's like, I don't know how to take him. He's just because I I went in there and I was I handed him these drawings that these high school artists those are high schoolers? Yeah. Oh um, like I thought it I thought it turned out pretty good, but it was it's like with colored pencil and like whatever. So I'm like, just bring it to Casey, he'll work his voodoo magic on it and make some stickers out of it. Like, I I'm fairly certain you could probably do that. Not a hundred percent, but and I don't know anything about what you do, like the logistics of it. But uh he came back and he's like, You sure he's gonna be able to do something with those drawings? I'm like, I I think so. Like, if anybody could, he could. And then he's like, he he just was like, uh when when I went in there and handed it to him, said you Keith said you'd be able to handle this, and Casey's he said Casey just was like, yeah, like not excited about it at all. I'm like, well, no, probably like what he's probably like I already have a mountain of work to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

There's like two bearheads just looking at some. I'm like, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

So I'm switching that on a squad car, yeah. A new police car, right? Is that is it is he driving that one right now?

SPEAKER_05 2:01

No, it's getting outfitted right now.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

He's driving one that's stripped though.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

Yeah, it's we took all the vinyl off except the part where it says village of Bonwell.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Yeah, I saw it in the parking lot today.

SPEAKER_05 2:12

It actually looks nice, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

No, I think it's ugly, actually.

SPEAKER_05 2:15

Well, that's gonna be Jesse's new um um DPW.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

It looks it's it's too white and ugly looking.

SPEAKER_05 2:23

Well, he's gonna do something with it.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:25

He's gonna put some stuff on it, but well then they'll look better.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Just looks just names of high school kids. Some artwork. Okay, let's get talking about Casey. You are feeling close to me.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

You tell me. You know just tell me freely walk in your eye.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Hi. Hi. Welcome. This is I'm Nicole Fisher, and this is my husband Keith Fisher. And we have a great guest today. His name is Casey Hone. He is a graphic designer in Shano, Wisconsin. He is our go-to guy. We use him for everything graphic related.

SPEAKER_03 3:20

Um grew up in Shano, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Grew up in Channel.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

Uh, not really. I was like imported there.

SPEAKER_05 3:27

Oh, but graduated from Shano?

SPEAKER_03 3:29

Nope. You didn't? No, graduated from Bowler.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Wow. Oh, I thought we don't even know you.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Jeez, what mystery.

SPEAKER_05 3:36

This is why we have people on, so we actually get to know them.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

But I've been in Shano since I've been like 18, I guess. So I feel like you're Shano. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

I've embraced it.

SPEAKER_05 3:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

So do you have any questions you want to ask him right out of the gate?

SPEAKER_05 3:49

Yeah, let's go with some weird ones. All right.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

He probably you might think you're prepared, but he switches things up now.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Because people listen.

SPEAKER_05 3:57

Have you listened to any of our podcasts? One of them.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

It won't hurt our feelings.

SPEAKER_05 4:03

I don't remember. Who was on? Was it just us?

SPEAKER_03 4:05

No, it was uh Sawyer. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Oh, and then the journey one. Yeah, I listened to that.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Oh, that was in I don't know why people like journeys.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

It was like fired. I'm here. I want to figure this out. Why does she get fired?

SPEAKER_01 4:21

If she brought it up to you, should we have firing me? Okay, anyways.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

I'm not gonna take a drink.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Let's pretend take a moment, pretend that um you're abducted by aliens.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_05 4:35

So the aliens say, Hey, we'll bring you around the entire world, the entire universe to show you all the things. It only takes, it only takes like a week. But when you come back, only two minutes have gone by. Would you do it?

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:52

How many times would you go?

SPEAKER_03 4:54

I think I'd done it like three times. That's why I got three kids. She has like that.

SPEAKER_05 5:01

Two minutes went past, and you're like, oh yeah. Missed it.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

Oh we can't.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Oh, that's so great.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

How at least one of them was an alien, so I know that.

SPEAKER_05 5:13

How long? Okay, let's pretend that the same scenario, except they say instead of two minutes goes by, a month goes by. Would you do it?

SPEAKER_03 5:22

For the whole time to go all the way around everything?

SPEAKER_05 5:25

No, like you come back in a month. But you miss a month.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

You miss a whole month of your life.

SPEAKER_05 5:32

Sure. Okay. What about six months? No. Okay. Three months.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

No. A month would be long enough.

SPEAKER_05 5:39

That would be too long. Like that'd be the max.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Alright.

SPEAKER_05 5:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

I see enough in Shano in like six months, it'll just stay.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

What would you hope to see?

SPEAKER_03 5:50

I don't know, just other people, I guess, interacting. Different things like that.

SPEAKER_05 5:54

Would would you think that you'd see like other planets, like other people on other planets?

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Um probably.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Yeah, you're in safe company here. Yeah. You're in good company. He's probably there. We think so too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

Do like we're just little mice running around.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Yeah, that's what he says all the time.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

I say it all the time. He goes, We are. They could throw us some somebody's cheese.

SPEAKER_05 6:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

It'd be nice. He goes, like, we look at monkeys in cages, and here we're somebody's.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

We're like, we're we're two percent smarter than chimpanzees on average, like as a race. So like for somebody else or for this area, I'm just saying in general, probably.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

I feel like that's yeah, caged.

SPEAKER_05 6:37

There's a curve.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

There's a curve. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_05 6:42

Somebody or something else, or maybe that's God, you know, like that's two percent smarter than us, and we're just their zoo, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

You know, like what is your I'm gonna ask this question because I want to know what is your oldest memory? Your very first memory that you have, not something that you have a picture of and you remember it by a picture, but like something that you were little and you're like, I remember this.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

Uh my mom smoking and then dumping her ash out the window and coming in and lighting my pants on fire. I always remember that. My crotch is on fire, and she's just like, what's going on back there? Stupid. Yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Do you have a burn mark yet?

SPEAKER_03 7:30

No, that's from a different episode in my life.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 7:34

Yeah. That was hot boiling water. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

Yeah, it was not an experiment.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

That's bad.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Well, see, it feels like everybody that has uh their memory is something traumatic. Getting stung by a bee, Hans's diapers getting washed down the driveway. Like everybody has something like that. Right.

SPEAKER_05 8:00

And then two diapers. Right? Yeah. Wasn't Ernie's about diapers too?

SPEAKER_01 8:04

His mom changing his diaper. Sawyer, I was listening to 50 Cent making spaghetti, like any good mom would.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Or Eminem.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Or Eminem. Yeah. Okay. That's good. All right, ready to move forward.

SPEAKER_05 8:20

Yeah, what do you what do you do, Casey? What do you do over there? Just tons of printing and design. I don't know. So dot com branding is the name of the company. Like what like because you've expanded a ton over the over tell me your what your how you started out.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

I want to know about the shitty type.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

Oh, just uh, I just wanted to make like my own stuff, and it just started to roll into people seeing things being done. And this was 14 years ago, so stuff wasn't as easily to be made, so it just kind of turned into something. But yeah, I just started with like a thousand dollars, and it just started to roll into something right out of your basement? Yep, and it just was a lot of crappy times.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

How did you how did you make this stuff back then?

SPEAKER_03 9:02

Like what what's kind of I bought a heat press and like a vinyl cutter.

SPEAKER_05 9:06

Okay, like a crack cut or something or like a what? Like a cricket, what is it called?

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Yeah, like a cricket kind of a crackhead. Yeah, like a crackhead. It probably was one. I thought it's called cricket. So yeah, this is before the this was before the cricket craze. They just call it a plotter.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Plotter?

SPEAKER_03 9:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

Okay. Cool.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

But yeah, just wanted to make my own stuff.

SPEAKER_05 9:28

So like you wore it. Yeah. Like it was you didn't make your own stuff to sell it, you made it so you could wear it.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Yep. And that's cool. The design aspect of it is probably what took it to where people wanted stuff. Like they didn't want my crap that I was making myself. Like they didn't want your bean or whatever. Yeah, they didn't want to make it.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Yeah, we need that. We'll get a picture of that. That's something special.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

They didn't want that. But yeah, then it's just like, oh, can you do this? And then a lot of it turned into like that memorial stuff. Because I mean, all probably before then it was just big squares of people sitting there dead on people's shirts, like a memorial thing. Like, I don't know, that's all they had. So then we started designing it different to actually give it meaning. So that really took off. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

What is your favorite type of work to do in graphics?

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Um, like meaningful work would be probably that memorial stuff because most people come in and they just expect uh things, you know, just a square on chest, like, oh my mom died, cool. And then just put that on there and we're just gonna print it. And then yeah, we give it a lot more meaning with pillows, blankets, or just a design that actually means something to that person.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

I bet it's rewarding to see their reaction when you give it to them.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

Oh, yeah. Like it sucks when a parent has to come in for like a kid or something. Like that kid and Jillet, we just had to make some stuff. Oh, really? Yep. So it sucks.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, that's so sad. Yeah, traumatic.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

Um just bringing it down.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Yeah, great job. Okay, let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

Um, so the aliens. Yeah, yeah. That's just kidding. So do you still love your job?

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Yeah, yeah. How many employees do you have?

SPEAKER_03 11:03

Uh, like total that show up like four. Yeah. Okay. We're still waiting for Dell to drop out of college. So if she watches us, she can just drop out. Really? Yeah. She's already left for turbo, so that's one step ahead of us. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Do you have any employees that ever steal from you?

SPEAKER_03 11:21

Uh, not that I know yet.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Turn. This is shout-up for turn.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

Shout out turn.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Take your kids. Think your kids will ever, any of your kids will follow in your footsteps and take over the family biz?

SPEAKER_03 11:34

Uh hopefully.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Isn't that hard to think about like leaving it?

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Oh, yeah. Like if I die, it's just done. They just gotta clean out all their yeah. That's the best part. I'm like, man, all this stuff you guys gotta clean out when I just laugh about that. There's just stuff everywhere.

SPEAKER_05 11:51

So when you first started, you were just printing it in your room or what?

SPEAKER_03 11:56

Yeah, just in the basement. Okay. Yep. Like I finished the basement off and then just messed around down there. It was supposed to be like a man cave, like Xbox and stuff, and then it just turned into a printing thing. And then it just got busier and busier.

unknown 12:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Um, and then you owned a place down on Main Street. Yep. And you outgrew that very quick.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

Yeah, I bought it during COVID.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Yeah. I quit Belmark because we collided on the whole mask thing. Really?

SPEAKER_01 12:25

You took a stand, you're like, I'm not wearing a mask?

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Yeah, kind of. Yeah. We made a bunch of Trump masks and that didn't go over too well. Really? Yeah. They got mad. Well, this one guy got mad.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

So then we So you wore it to work?

SPEAKER_03 12:38

Yeah. The whole shift did, and then uh one guy got mad. So then we wore up some masks that said, Don't be so sensitive, and then just it was a downhill spiral. So did you leave on your own? Uh yeah, pretty much. Because well, I didn't get the I was supposed to be the main supervisor then, and then they're like, We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

What do you do at Bellmark for people?

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Uh like a just it's a big label printing company.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Where?

SPEAKER_03 13:02

Uh that one's in Shano. Okay. But I worked in De Pier, and then they opened up the one in Shano, and I helped train all the um operators and everything.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

So you don't actually work with a customer?

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

So whatever's on your face shouldn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Right. Yeah. Oh yeah, no. Like it could be and like me and uh like my like helper, we didn't wear a mask, but I mean you're there for 13 hours.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

And I was like, do you care? No. So then we're just by ourselves, and then yeah, the guy would get all mad, and he's just way over by himself. And he just oh yeah, started some stuff.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

What a time to live, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 13:39

Especially to look back at it now and be like, man, we really are just mice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

Just what are you what do you want me to do?

SPEAKER_03 13:48

Yeah, if I probably if that went to happen, I probably still be there because I liked it. I mean, I liked everything.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

But thank God, right? Because look at you now.

SPEAKER_05 13:55

So did you did you buy the building while you were still working there? Uh it was like the last week, yeah. Okay. That I knew it was really sad. Oh, so you knew that you were gonna, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

What mask did you make when you knew it was gonna be like the just like the Trump ones?

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Because then I was supposed to be hired as like the main supervisor because everything was we're getting more machines then, and then they're like, No, and I was like, Well, I'm not gonna listen to this guy that I trained. So yeah, it was just yeah. Interesting. Because once you're behind somebody, then you know you're not gonna go up past them ever.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Right.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

So, like, I look back at that time and we were Keith and I I mean, we nothing like that's ever happened in our lifetime, right? COVID, like that is it's bizarre time, but we didn't get COVID vaccines. You had the opportunity of getting it, being a cop, essential. And he's like, What do you think? I'm like, I don't think so. Like, we're not flu vaccine people, yeah. We have vaccines, but we're not like you know, look, we don't we don't get the flu, we don't get stuff like that. So, but also like I remember one of my friends who was fighting the school board about masks, and I'm like, who cares? Just put the mask on. And now looking back, I'm like, She was right. Yep, like she was one, like I was more like, just put them right. We were like, just put the mask on, like don't fight it. Like some people are gonna get sick from it, like all the unknown. But now I'm like almost ashamed of how like we weren't controlled, we still did things, we still had parties, but like I went into stores without masks on, like a rebel sometimes. But like also, if it was a fight, I would just put it on because I just didn't want conflict.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

I don't think we were lucky that we were around here. Like if we were other places, it was yeah, yeah. At least here it was more open-minded for what it was. Yes, I just couldn't believe how many people did get the shot, especially like I don't know, like up on the reservation. How many people actually got it? It's insane.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

I thought it was crazy that that type of medicine they would just right because they're they're more like holistic, aren't they?

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Right, Native Americans by like but yeah, they were pushing that like crazy for I don't know, it's insane, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:57

Right, and I I remember the first uh little garage gathering we had, like this was pretty early on when everybody's supposed to stay home. Yep, like it's like four or five cops drinking in a garage with a propane heater, and I'm like, this is probably more dangerous, like this propane heater that's just taking all the oxygen out of the garage than actually being together.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

But yeah, it was insane. It was a wild time. So when I hear bad boys, I like I have friends that were nurses too that I remember them protesting because they didn't want to get vaccine. Like, all of the people that lost their jobs or took a stand and left their job.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

I wonder what happened with all of that.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

Yeah, I don't know. That's weird. But there's people, yeah, that were at like I don't know, like Newski's or Hillshire or something like that, that supposedly lost their job after 40 years because they wouldn't get the shot or something.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

That is insane.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Anyways, we're not here to talk. Anyway, but it's about you, it's about you, but good for you for I didn't get the shot.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

How scared were you when you bought that building? Were you scared?

SPEAKER_03 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:59

Were you like scared that you weren't gonna be able to pay your bills and stuff?

SPEAKER_03 17:03

Or didn't uh yeah, so I learned that I I learned that uh if you say cash offer, you're not supposed to just bring all the cash in your backpack to the closing. Yeah. During COVID, I brought like 80 grand in my backpack, and Abilonic was like, Oh, you can't do that. And I was like, Well, I don't want to put it in the bank, then they know I have it.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Oh my god, that's so funny. Wait, so how do you have that much cash? Just from like your side stuff that you were doing?

SPEAKER_03 17:29

Yep, just savor, it's probably why I was audited like twice.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Were you?

SPEAKER_03 17:33

That sucks. Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Do you get audited yet a lot at dot com?

SPEAKER_03 17:38

Uh, only twice so far. That's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

Wasn't one only a sales tax audit or something? How do you know that? Tell me, I think he told me that. Maybe it's somebody else, but I thought it was you that told me that.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Um sales tax or yeah, maybe it sucked.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Did you hire someone to like go through all this stuff to figure it out? Oh, yeah. Because I would lose my mind. I'd be like, I don't know what to even work with.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

All right. And then like she got it down to like three grand.

unknown 18:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

And then the guy just was like, probably see you again.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

It was not, yeah, it's not fun.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Yeah, our time's coming.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

Our time's coming. I don't care. Yeah, we keep pretty good records. We do. I'm not worried about it.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

Yeah, ours, ours is good now. It's just there's so much, yeah, that you don't know. Like, and then all of a sudden, like they'll just be like, Well, where'd this come from? That and then I mean, they can find anything for what it is. Because mine was after the like house fire that it was like a big episode. Because then like I had the business and then the other stuff, so then all of a sudden there's like a big check sitting there, and they're wondering like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

And oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Yeah, so it was like under a microscope for what it was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:44

Um, okay, so you were scared. Were you scared? You were you you weren't scared when you opened first opening?

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Oh, when I opened, yeah, I thought you were talking about the audit. Oh, yeah. Give me a free room and board. Yeah, I'll just go stay there.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

I don't have to make decisions.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

Take some time off. If I got free like WIA basketball, I won't be paying for that.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Probably.

SPEAKER_05 19:07

So uh try to go back. So what year was that?

SPEAKER_01 19:11

2020, you said, right?

SPEAKER_05 19:12

2020? 2021.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Yeah, whatever COVID was. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

It's still going on, I think. That's what they tell us.

SPEAKER_05 19:19

Yeah, it's there. I got the COVID 26 going.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

That's what our kids say. They're like, is it COVID 26 now?

SPEAKER_05 19:25

Like, maybe. Maybe. We call that the flu here.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yep. Um, so it was good. I mean, I don't know. I was worried though, because I just lost like a good job, yeah, good insurance. And then you were there for how long? Uh six years at Belmont. Okay. And then I just remember that that day, like, I was like, I'm buying this building and I'm quitting. And then uh April was like, oh, and I'm pregnant. And I was like, oh, that's yeah, really. So yeah, that was not the most exciting time. Like I did not have a yeah, a good response to that.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

No, I can't imagine. It's like, oh yeah. That's perfect timing.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Are you uh do you have any regrets about how you opened or when you opened?

SPEAKER_03 20:08

No. No, I think it all just worked its way because we had to do tons of like COVID stuff, like masks and stuff I had to make. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I always had stuff to print. It wasn't like uh it was anything.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

Do you do you ever think about like what it would have been like if you started earlier?

SPEAKER_03 20:26

I probably wouldn't have been ready. Isn't that something? Yeah, like I think it just works out.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

It does, it does. Because if we like, I look back at so many times and I'm like, if we would have done this earlier, I'm like, I wasn't ready. Yeah, that was a show.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Like, there's no way. Or you might probably wouldn't have um appreciated like that, or you would have skipped over a step that you would have just normally not wanted to look at. Right, right. Like when uh beforehand, I mean, me and my one friend would always talk, and I'd be like, if somebody just gave us a hundred thousand dollars, we could just do whatever, like we would figure it out, we wouldn't waste it. So, like when my house burnt down and all that stuff, like that's literally what I walked away with pretty much, and I just turned it all into something then.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

So, you okay, let's talk about your house burning down because I know that was tragic and you lost your dog. It's heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

Two of them Barb and Larry, yeah. His girlfriend, his girlfriend of three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Really?

SPEAKER_03 21:18

Yeah, Barb. Yep, Barb.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

It's so sad.

SPEAKER_05 21:21

Did you did you name name the dog after her mom?

SPEAKER_01 21:25

My mom's name's Barb. That's a good dog's name.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

I love my mom.

SPEAKER_05 21:30

That wasn't a cut on mom, but oh, but but if you've seen Barb, it might be funny. You have funny dog names too, like people names for the most part, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

Now we got Steve.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah, Steve's a good name. Yeah. Um that's awesome. So, how did your house fire happen?

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Um they said water followed the AC line in, and then uh that went to like the main uh powerboard uh breaker box, and then it just arced the whole thing. Said it was on fire for like eight, nine hours before anyone noticed.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Somebody even dropped off shirts at my house and thought in the middle of July it was weird I was having a uh like a fire in the Where was this house? On Bartlett Street. Back like on what is it? North Bartlett Street. Okay. So behind like the pawn shop over next. So it was engulfed for inside was and nobody noticed. Nope. And then they like showed up to the wrong Bartlett Street because they went to South Bartlett Street and they tried to like almost go to that house, the fire department. Then they ended up at North Bartlett Street, and as soon as they opened up the door, like the whole thing just went up because it finally got air. And then I was at work and somebody called me.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Jeez.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

Yeah, that sucks.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

That's her brain.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

I do not recommend that to anyone.

SPEAKER_05 22:44

No, no.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

That's sad.

SPEAKER_05 22:46

And at that time you had printing stuff probably in the basement there. Yeah. Like your life's work.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Yep. There's everything there.

unknown 22:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

But yeah, just all your stuff gone. Yeah. It was a lot easier to move. Like I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

It's just me. Yeah. So besides your pets, what is the most if you could take something out of that house fire, if you had one thing, what would it be?

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Um, like I took like my mom's ashes, uh, that kind of added to them.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

And then it's a sad joke, sick joke, but I mean, you're in good company.

SPEAKER_05 23:21

So that happened. I know your humor. Yeah, that's I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

But there was a picture that I had that I had done of like Larry that he was dressed up as like a king, and for some reason that fell through the floor and didn't get burned. So I got that.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Is that at this um your place? Oh, yeah, I got it upstairs. Okay, so my house. Yep. Aww.

unknown 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

You're um, I know we're jumping, but do you still own that church in Embarrass? Nope. That you redid?

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Sold that.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

That was a cool place. And now, so above his now business, he bought a cool building and renovated the whole upstairs and main floor. Yep. Your house looks awesome.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

Yeah, it's sweet.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

You did such a good job.

SPEAKER_05 24:01

It's just like in the beginning when you started and oh yeah, kind of nice. Your print and place was in the basement. Now it's in your basement.

SPEAKER_03 24:08

Yep, yep. Yeah, now it's yeah, that was like 5,000 square feet above there, so it's just huge. It looks so cool. It's awesome. See it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:16

It is awesome. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Did you get a lot of help with Shano downtown? Like, isn't there a lot of grants and like help with renovating old buildings?

SPEAKER_03 24:24

I only got like the one because supposedly they gave me the building because they were gonna tear it down. So I paid a dollar for the building, but then I had to bring it up to code. So that was fun. So as you know, like bringing something up to code is not an ideal seal situation.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

ADA compliant, all that. Yeah, it's not cheap. Yeah, and it's a learning process. Oh, yeah. I mean a lot of ins and outs to it.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Yeah, because I would have thought, you know, we could have done it a lot cheaper, but you had to have the state come in and actually check it, not just some random guy. Because I bought those first two buildings during COVID for I think it was 80,000. But then that was like Britney's hair salon that's next door, the ginger leaf salon. Yeah, so I sold her that building because otherwise I told her I was gonna just not have her there anymore. Oh, and then she bought that from me for pretty much that price, and then I sold the other building when I was getting the new one for like a hundred.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

I didn't know you owned all that. It's kind of like Nash and Monopoly, owning all these businesses. Nash, why are you looking at me like that? You play in Monopoly with them all the time.

SPEAKER_05 25:35

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Say say something, don't look at me like I'm dumb.

SPEAKER_05 25:39

I thought you were gonna say something else.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Like, like he likes to own like stri a whole bunch of businesses. That's all. It's whatever, cut that out.

SPEAKER_05 25:48

Just cut, just cut him out. He does, he for whatever reason, he always gets all the railroads.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

You're just a banker, you're like, all right.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Yeah, I'm like so he's good at Monopoly. That's what I was getting at. Like he's a it's a game you guys play, and it's so annoying. You're like, we're almost done, and it's three hours later.

SPEAKER_05 26:05

We're not like you think you're almost done for hours before you're actually done.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Yeah, we used to cheat and make my dad mad. And you get all mad and quit. And now I realize that, yeah, I'm my dad.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

I'm like, he's so stupid.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

You're getting you're getting cheated on. Yeah. It's so funny. Like, why are you the banker? You can't even count and get all mad.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

Okay, so what do you all do now? Like, because you started, you just started printing, like, right? Like you just had a hot press with vinyl cutter, printing on like small t-shirts. Like, what do you do now? Like, what scale of operations do you do? I mean, I know, but let's tell the people.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

No, we do like come summertime, we average like 5,000 shirts a week, and that's getting shipped everywhere, or people randomly dropping off tie-dye shirts and being like, I need these tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

When you say randomly, Cami and audience, that is, we're one of those people that will be like, Hey, I order these. Can you print these? When do you need them? As soon as you can. A lot of people do that too.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

Yeah, but also like we know, like working with you. Don't take this the wrong way. Working with you, and then also working like with ourselves. I need to just show up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess if I message you and say, like just like when somebody messages hundreds of unread messages, hundreds, like you'd forget about it.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

Yeah, eight eight hundred and forty-nine missed text messages, girl. Yeah, yes. So I know if I'm gonna do it. You're speaking my language, that's thirteen voicemails.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

That is me.

SPEAKER_05 27:37

Yeah, if I want something done, I just show up with it and be like, hey, yeah, can you judgment? Because I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Like, and I tell I tell like people that we like sell their stuff. I'm like, you sometimes just have to show up and be like, hey, do you need more dog treats? I'm here. Yep. I'm like, it's not that I'm intentionally ignoring you, it's that like I'm in the middle of something. I see you message me and then it gets buried 17 messages down. You know what I mean? And then it's like, I forget about it, or I'll be showering. I'm like, oh, I got a messenger back, and then I forget. Yeah, like I get it.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

Life, yeah, yep. So I mean like there's so many different ways to get a hold of somebody. There is like you got Snapchat, like, and then all of a sudden you get like you're during the yeah, yeah, during the day, I'll have like over 400 miss snaps or something, and then you respond to one, and of course they're gonna respond some stupid, like laugh aloud, and then it just goes right back up, and you're like, This is done. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Or you like with you at least. I'm like, what did I message him on? Did I text? Did I like because I'm like, I know we talked about something, but I have to look back in what was it? Text, was it uh like an ultimate folder?

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Yeah, it just brings it all up, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:41

But yeah, it's so hard to keep up with all of them.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Yep. So that's a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

So what else? What else do you do there? No, you because I know you don't just print on shirts. What else do you print on?

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Like the banners and then uh just graphic design stuff, uh window tinting, car wraps. So like the cop car and then just other stuff like Jasper Chimney Mechanics. We do a bunch for him, wrap all his vehicles. Wow, yeah, so that goes good.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

What is the most interesting thing you've ever wrapped or did?

SPEAKER_05 29:12

Well, lately it's been those helmets. Do you do you do the wrapping yourself? Do you have some?

SPEAKER_03 29:17

Yeah, me or Sam, or then Colon too, but Sam's kind of taking a break right now, so we'll see. But yeah, otherwise, yeah, so it's hard, like you gotta try to do that all and you got walk-ins and you know, but you get it done somehow. I don't know how you do. Yeah, so that's why we need the kids to jump on board soon.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

How did you get started wrapping stuff? Did you like just start doing it on your own cars first? Yeah, and you just wanted to try out at something different.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

You just go buy a beater trying to sell it for more, and you're like, oh, this will make it look nice. And it worked. Yeah, it was like, oh like, sweet, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_05 29:49

Yeah, cubby's gonna listen to this, he's gonna be like, Yeah, yeah, he like he's already got ideas.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

He's like, Hey, I want to start designing sweatshirts like Journey did. I'm like, really? My entrepreneur heart was just fluttering.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

Journey would just walk in. Can we do this?

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Yeah, like I was thinking, like, are you ready, man?

SPEAKER_05 30:06

Like, yeah, she was a nightmare because we had to handle that, and like the difference between the two is you you never want to have to like push your kid along, right? The like follow up with the messages or follow up with payments or like whatever. And it felt like we were always just pushing her along a little. She wanted to do it, but like she liked the creative part of it, but then like the logistics of it. I don't want to deliver stuff, I don't want to go pick stuff up.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

See, and I think sometimes like sometimes that you don't like you'll get that part, but then I think that's where the drive part comes in, or you don't realize like this is how I'm only gonna make money. Yeah, like if you have kind of a shelter around you, you're like, oh whatever. Yep, if this this sweater didn't get picked up, it's like, no, that's like$30. I'm out with that money. Yep. You're coming to get it.

SPEAKER_05 30:56

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

So something why we like you so much is you give back to the community a lot. And we're we talk about this a lot that we we buy, I don't know how to say this, we don't buy people, but we do, we don't buy products, we buy the person. And that's why we always go with you is because, like, example listeners and watchers, state basketball last year. How fast did you get that huge ass banner done? How big was that banner? Because you asked me how long it big it was, and I don't remember.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

It was like 14 feet, I think, long.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Okay, so they were in Madison and I told you I took the picture they took. The um the Jacqueline, is her name Jacqueline?

SPEAKER_05 31:40

Yeah, La Barge.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

LaBarge. She sent it to me or sent it to you. I think she ended up getting like a nice file for you to get it. They were at like a restaurant, she had them stop out to eat before they got back. He had the banner printed and done before the boys got back to Madison from Madison to Bondawell. So we had a big banner.

SPEAKER_05 32:04

Closed. Yeah, typically closed. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Keith climbed up there and hung it up on the side, and it said, like, I don't know. We had two different you made two different banners, and then that one you you or both, I don't remember, you just like donated. You're like, nope, no cost, like great job, guys. Which is awesome because that's a lot of time and money and and stuff that goes into it. So I don't know if people know exactly all the things you do by giving back.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

Yeah, we just try not to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

But I feel like it's and people will like I one day when I'm gone, they'll be like, Oh, could have got a free banner today. Guess not. That'll be the best part.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Yeah, well, he gave us a free banner. Yeah, or your kids will be working there, like, your dad gave us a free banner. Yep. Yep, the guy like at the uniform shop in Green Bay, dealing with all the cops that had generations, they're like, Well, your dad gave me a free handcuff key. You know what I mean? The son would tell me that he would be hearing stuff all the time. Well, your dad didn't do it this way. Our poor kids are gonna hear that too.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

That's because your mom was cute. It's not weird.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

That wasn't for him.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

No, yeah. Um, so we uh yeah, we really like working with you because, well, obviously you're local, you started from your basement, you get back, you're involved with sports and stuff, you actually care, you're invested.

SPEAKER_05 33:27

Yeah, yeah, and you're very talented.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

So it wasn't so like this this banner was a picture that was just taken in Madison. She sent it, so it was like how many hours? Like two hours. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

And it was hung, it was pretty cool. Like the the team was shocked. They're like, oh my gosh, this is insane.

SPEAKER_05 33:47

How'd they how'd they do that? It was a picture of them holding the trophy the silver ball, yeah. Yeah, no, it's cool.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

We had a couple staff working for us at that time that actually played in that game, so we let them have it for their graduate for their graduation party, so they have it now, or I think they might have gave it back to the school for memorabilia or whatever. There it's hanging somewhere.

unknown 34:08

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

But yeah, so we like that about you. Not that you gave us free, but like also. Um, but we you also forget to bill us a lot, and then sometimes you do bill us and then we forget to pay for it. We forget to pay you. So if we owe you, let us know before you leave. We have checks.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Oh, we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_05 34:27

I think the youth football club owes you money yet. Yeah, yeah. I just thought of that now.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Oh, I have like a stack like this big. Again, when I die, somebody's gonna be like, ho ho. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

You owe me money. You owe me money. Oh my god, really?

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Yeah, oh yeah. Why don't you have someone like it's hard because it's like different people? Like, I you know what I would charge you guys over, you know, somebody else. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

You usually say that what do I usually charge you?

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Yeah, and then I mean, there's just lines of people some days, and people just want to pick up stuff, and I understand your time's valuable, so I don't want to like sit there and be like, well, I gotta type this up right now. Yeah, and I got other stuff to do, so right. The lights are still on.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:08

Go bill collecting later. Yeah. My kids don't eat too much.

unknown 35:12

No.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Now we stopped on the fast food, so now we're even better. You did? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

How would how did that how was that going? Tell me about your health journey.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Just stopped.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Just stopped?

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Yeah. Like my doctor had me on like seven different high blood pressure pills. Really? Yeah, it made me like gain, I think, like 30 pounds in a year, and I just was feeling like crap. And I just said nope. So I went and got a new doctor, stopped that in like two months. I lost 45 pounds now.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

What did you do?

SPEAKER_03 35:38

Just I stopped taking that, but then I stopped uh drinking soda and then um just like fast food because I just eaten kind of like, but it was whatever. So I just stopped that. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

How high was your blood pressure?

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Uh like 185 over 135 all the time. It's insane. I don't remember you overweight. I felt like it was. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

No, I don't remember you being a butterball either. Yeah, but you also look thin now. So I mean, obviously, I can see Benjamin Button. I mean, you look you don't look like you look healthy. You don't look like, oh, he has cancer. You know what I mean? Like you look like take off my hat. Oh lord, you know, like you don't look sick.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Cap away from make a wish. Yeah, that's exactly it today.

SPEAKER_05 36:25

Is your wish. Yeah. Granted. Surprise. Yeah. That was gonna be cooler, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:33

Thought there'd be like something in the middle there.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

No, nothing. Just this. Um, okay, what where are we going with that? Okay, it's your blood pressure. That's insane.

SPEAKER_05 36:43

How were your kids with um like getting rid of fast food? How were they?

SPEAKER_03 36:48

They're good, they can't drive yet. So we're not gonna be there. You're right. You're in charge. You're right. Like keep eating like that, you're gonna turn into a big ball. Right. Like I was. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, for real. High blood pressure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Okay, so does your mom did your did your mom or dad have high blood pressure, or is it just oh, I think my dad probably does.

SPEAKER_03 37:07

He doesn't think, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Oh, he doesn't care, like to know, like I think he takes something for it. Okay, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

He should if he does.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Because I'm I have like borderline high blood. Okay. Um, I do, I have like it's like 140 over 90.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Those are rookie numbers. Those are rookie numbers compared to yourself. But do you feel it? Like, I never felt it.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

No, that's why they call it in her. Oh, okay. In her attitude. I know. I know when it's up there.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

So they call it creeping up there.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

They're creeping up that 180 mark sometimes. I feel it.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

There was a time. Okay, so wait, time out. They call it the silent killer because there's no there's no symptoms.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

The best way, though.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Act like it's so bad. I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

So like when I when I realized my blood pressure was high, it was when I was looking to donate my liver, and they're like, dude, you have high blood. I'm like, no, I don't. No, I don't. And they're like, Yeah, you do. So they monitor it for a day and they're like, Yeah, that's high, but not your type of high. Like, that's stroke out your bad.

SPEAKER_03 38:09

They don't want to give your liver away.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

They're so bad. You that's bad.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Yeah. Now it's good.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

So you it gives me like 120 over like 90 or something.

SPEAKER_05 38:21

And all you had to do was get rid of fast food and soda.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Yeah. Well, and I think those pills are a huge part of it. Because then you're always worried about it. Like, I don't know. Yeah. And it just felt like crap the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

So I was on an anxiety medication that gave me night sweat. I would sweat so bad. I'm like, am I going through menopause already? And then they like I'm just gonna open she was. I I actually got I got my hormones test. They're like, no, dude, you're not going through menopause.

SPEAKER_05 38:46

You got a ways to go.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

It was, it was my blood pressure was high and like it has dipped in my blood pressure's back down because I got off the anxiety. I'm like, I told my doctor, I said, I feel like I would tell you, I'm like, I actually can feel my like blood pressure going up. So the medication wasn't helping.

SPEAKER_05 39:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

But I eat a lot of beetroot now. Beet root helps blood pressure.

SPEAKER_05 39:05

I remember saying, like, I don't want to, I don't want to be on another medication because I'm taking a medication.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Because they're like, well, you could take a blood pressure. I'm like, because of another medication. Right. Are you listening to this? Don't get me wrong, some people need anxiety medication. I'm fine. I mean, I'm great now without it. I really am doing great.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

Link twice. This is a safe sound.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

But I don't want, I don't want to take a medication for a medication. Yeah. If I don't have to, right. So I'm happy. I'm like intrigued, like what you're you're what you did.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Just stopped.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Yeah. So I was like, I don't think we should do this. I was like, we're gonna do this. He's like, all right.

SPEAKER_05 39:44

How often will you eat fast food?

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Oh, like every day.

SPEAKER_05 39:47

Really?

SPEAKER_03 39:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

It's hard when you're busy.

SPEAKER_03 39:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

And I know like all the health people are like, oh, you know, it choose your hard. And I get that. Do you like meal prep now? Are you one of those meal preppers now?

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Well, I've always only ate like maybe once a day. So, like the kids obviously I have them 50-50. So, you know, like they have to eat, or you feel like you know, whatever. And it's just they're like some that's quick, and I was just, yeah, it just worked. We know we get it. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

We try to do healthy all the time too. But when it's like one kid's at home, the everyone else is at sports, it's like I'm not gonna make a whole meal, right? You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Like I was thinking about that the other day, like it's so crazy once they get to a certain age, like, especially you guys, like how old the kids are, like they just have their own life anyways. Yeah, like once they have a car, it's they're not even in the house, really. It's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

It is, it's so weird. Like last night, Cubby had, which we probably should have gone to the banquets. It's so I mean, I'm not he's not he didn't get an award or anything. We didn't go, it's like a three-hour banquet. We stopped going to those, not because of any other reason, uh, besides us sounding like trashy parents, but like senior year, I can see it. You know what I mean? Like, like go to the banquets and stuff because it's their last, but like we've sat through that. You know what I mean? It's girls and guys, and it's all the same talk. No offense to anybody listening. Like, it's important. I'm not saying it's not important, but we don't want to, we have other stuff to do. Yeah, and cubby's like, no, don't come.

SPEAKER_05 41:11

Like, he actually said, I don't think parents are going. We're like, and I'm like, I'm absolutely certain parents are going. But if you don't think they're going, then I don't think they're going.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, do you want to just record that? Yeah, they're not going. I'm like, do you want to go? He's like, Yeah, I'm gonna go just hang out with my friends. But and then I'm like, Did you get an award? Because he had something to say, he's like a participation certificate. And we're like, boo, boo, boo.

SPEAKER_05 41:33

Doesn't count.

SPEAKER_01 41:34

Yeah, but um, what I'm getting at is Keith made steaks last night. Nobody ate besides well, during Pete ate it. He ate one of them. Yeah, son of a full of them.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

There was only one left, cubby's left. That was the uh the dog? Pete the dog, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Keith has taken steaks off plates.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

Well, anyways, he ate Steve ate like five pounds of uh Dubai chocolate the other day. No, yeah, I'm pretty positive it was like$500 worth of Dubai chocolate. Yeah. What kind of dog? Uh Frenchie.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

And it survived that?

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Oh, yeah, he's still alive. It's possible. Yeah, he ate a whole thing of some like eye cream stuff that was supposed to kill him. Nope, just alive. He ate the whole tube and everything. He's chopper. Yeah, chopper. Chopper's got I was downstairs working, and the girls are like, he ate this. And I'm like, Well, today we're gonna figure out what happens. We can't go to the vet.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

Well, Choppers ate, you know, like at Aldi's, you can get the container of purple and yellow grapes or red and yellow grapes.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Just at Aldi's, or anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Okay, I'm an Aldi chopper. Um, Chopper ate basically the whole container and all of it. And like skinny, Nate Thornbrough was just telling us that his dog they had a rush, or some dog that had a rush for eating one grape, like almost died. Grapes are super toxic for dogs, and he ate like two pounds of them.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

And I'm like, and this is the week after we just spent like 600 bucks on a vet bill because he had Lyme's disease.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

And or oh, I thought he was didn't he have limes?

SPEAKER_05 43:07

He did have limes, or maybe it was the porcupine.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

He ate a porcupine and it was all over in his throat. Down in his throat. Like it was bad.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Like I that's how I had a dog that died.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

It died?

SPEAKER_03 43:18

Yeah, because it ate the porcupine, it was a pit bull no and it literally ate the porcupine, it wouldn't stop.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Well, at least he stopped after he got a hundred quills in him. It's but uh so choppers are like this the week after, and I'm like, she called me worried, like freaking out about it. I'm like, You're like, we're not like we can't afford another.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Nate was like, put peroxide down his throat to make him throw up because of the grapes? Yeah, he goes, they are so toxic, but didn't kill him, didn't care. That's fine. He wouldn't even he wouldn't even the peroxide didn't even make him throw up.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

I don't think that's rough.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

Like he is guts of steel that dog. But anyway, he eats everything.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

Well, I didn't know grapes were that bad because legend gives Steve.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Oh, they're well, obviously it's not toxic.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Yeah, it must be okay to them.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Because we had allergy tests for Carl and Pete, and they're not allergic to grapes.

SPEAKER_05 44:08

Yeah, which is weird. But I guess if you Carl's allergic to pumpkin, which is supposed to be good for dogs, and we're giving that to him every day. On his food. And he kept getting ear infections. We're like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_01 44:19

The vet's like, oh, it's probably like chicken. I don't know if she said it, but people were like, it's probably chicken, chicken. And we're like, oh man, I was gonna cut chicken out. And I'm like, let's get an allergy test. It's freaking pumpkin.

SPEAKER_03 44:30

Of all things.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Anyways, let's talk more about you and less about all our dying dogs. Our dying guy. That's the suckiest part, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 44:40

The dog dying? Oh, yeah. It's so bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

I chopper was so cuddly last night, and I like was like, he he's almost 13. I'm like, he doesn't have as a lab, he don't have much time left. He's just gonna go though. Nothing, but nothing gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 44:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Is that what he did?

SPEAKER_03 45:00

I think. Yeah. Oh I don't remember. I remember it was sad.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Yeah, it's sad.

SPEAKER_05 45:04

But I remember it was sad. That's all.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Do you have something that we should ask him as the listener? Oh because we're all over the place. Yeah, we're can you talk about?

SPEAKER_02 45:19

Can you talk about like why? And maybe you touched on this already, but why did you get into like graphics and printing? Like what inspired that in you?

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Just pretty much wanting to make my own thing, not wanting to uh walk around with somebody else's stuff on that I thought it'd be cool to push the envelope on things. I like to do that, stir the pie. Yeah, you do. You do a good job. That's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Yeah, were you the first one that made the Green Bay Packers jersey of my balls itch?

SPEAKER_03 45:50

No, not that I don't think. Not that one. Oh, it's a good one. I feel like I'm the first one that made the COVID-19 jersey, though.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_03 45:57

I feel like, yeah. I sold a bunch of those.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

When you were single and ready to mingle, you had the jersey said, Are you 18?

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Oh, yeah, I almost got beat up in Buffalo for that. Really? Yeah, some guy got all upset.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Well, you want to know if they're 18. Yeah, that's what I said.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

I was like, Are you on the other end of this thing? Yeah. I was pretty drunk. Not as drunk as when I slept on the streets in Cincinnati with a homeless guy.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

You did?

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:22

Like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 46:24

At the Packer game. Yeah. I couldn't find the hotel.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

And I was like, I guess I'm just gonna have to sleep here tonight.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

And he's like, We have room. Really? Yeah, right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

What a story.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

That is a story, yeah. Yeah, that happened.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Did you were you with anybody or by yourself? Yeah, with but you lost your people?

SPEAKER_03 46:42

They left you. Yeah. You went on a side. You will yeah, he didn't care, I guess. Like, all right, see you later. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Not a good friend.

SPEAKER_05 46:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Well, I just sleep with homeless people. That's sad.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

I mean, at least it wasn't cold out.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Any other crazy stories we need to talk about?

SPEAKER_03 46:59

Oh. Probably. I don't know. FBI showed up at my house one day.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

Why?

SPEAKER_03 47:04

Supposedly I wrote a letter to Joe Biden saying I was gonna do something to his wife. Wait, what? In embarrassment, yeah. They came. I came to the uh which they did. Dude, there's so much. I promise.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

Have you ever considered stand-up?

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Because no. He reminds me of you and Cubby used to watch the show, the Prankster guy.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

Impractical Jokers?

SPEAKER_01 47:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

Oh that one guy got in trouble for touching kids. Oh, but you want to make sure that yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Oh no, no, no, you're you're good. Yeah, you're good.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

That's not what I really that's weird. We're doing good as a show. Okay, so what was your question? He should you stand up.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Yeah, 100%. Because I feel like if like this it would just be like monotone, like kind of like hey, one offs and just silence and let people sit in it.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

Back to the college life, just tons of one-offs.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Can you do can you talk more about the FBI thing? Why they would think.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

Okay, so I'm a skeptic.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Why why would you think no?

SPEAKER_03 48:16

I know who did, though. You suspect? No, I know who did. You're not gonna rat. Well, that guy tried to kill me, but this is a different story. Dude, you can look it up on CCAP. Yeah, it was epic.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Okay, so tell me stories. Yeah, wait, we need these instead of other stories we've been talking about. Okay, so tell me about Joe Biden's wife.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

Oh, yeah. So that was Aubrey was homesick for the first day, and I left her at the church where I lived. And all of a sudden, this neighbor calls me and says there's like five SUVs parked around the church. And then I'm like calling Aubrey. I'm like, and I see him on the camera and I'm like, what's going on? She doesn't answer her phone, obviously, because she's probably faking. And she's just watching TV or something, never heard him knock, nothing. And I'm like, what the heck? So then I drove there and uh no one was there. And I was like, Didn't you hear these people knocking on the door? And she's like, No. And I'm like, all right. So I'm like, okay, my I maybe wrong church, whatever. And uh I get a call, and it was the Shawnee uh city police, and they're like, Can you come down here? These guys want to talk to you. And I'm like, all right. And I'm like, another audit, and they're like, no. So then when I get there and it's literally full SWAT FBI guys, somebody wrote a letter saying that I was gonna do something to her, and they had to come and investigate. And that was fun.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

Who wants to kill you? Yeah, that was my question.

SPEAKER_03 49:41

Uh, this one guy that was from uh Pulaski.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

Why?

SPEAKER_03 49:45

Because he owes me$10,000. So if he ever watches this, he could pay me. That'd be super nice.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

Look at the camera and tell him.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Do it. Pay me all of them. Just come and pay me. That'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Why does he owe you$10,000?

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Uh for some construction stuff that he didn't do.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

So then I'd always randomly hit him up. And then he would never like pay me. You know what? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:12

And then it would escalate in the So like with the school that you I mean, or the church that you redid, and you pre you paid him advance and he didn't finish the job.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Right. He didn't show up into where was this guy living? In Pulasca, he lives.

SPEAKER_01 50:25

Oh yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:26

So then like it would just like escalate. Like I'd be like, here, I thought it was your wife, everybody in town, but it turns out it's you. And then like it would just not be good. Like he even showed up at the one thing like with a gun.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

Like, yeah, it was so really I'll write a letter.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

And then he signed my FBI that this guy's gonna do something to me.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

No, he wrote it to the White House. He like wrote it to the White House, and like it was just an email. So I was like, won't you guys like check the IP address? And they're like, Well, we gotta do our dil due diligence. And I'm like, Well, this is odd. But they were full on there, everything. And I was like, this is really odd.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

What a great gig. I want to sign up for that job, just going to small towns. Did you say this about the president? Can you imagine how busy they are with Trump right now?

unknown 51:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:13

Oh, I bet you they're everywhere. I just couldn't believe they showed up for that. But then I think she did come like a couple months later to like um Joe Biden's wife. She came to like MTE or something. So maybe it was just because it was around the same time that they were like, well, maybe I was like, I don't even know how to use a gun.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

Right. Yeah. You really don't?

SPEAKER_03 51:33

No, I do. Okay. I just told them that.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

Okay. I was like, really? You're from Wisconsin. You don't know how to use a gun.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

I mean, not saying everyone from Wisconsin does, but yeah, there's um a lot of weird stuff. It is insane. So I have a side story.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

And I was. So Keith hides a lot of stuff for me because I probably because I do stupid shit like this. He paid our drywall guy for our home in advance.

SPEAKER_05 51:59

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_05 52:01

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

You he needed money for the weekend and you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05 52:05

They were done. They said they were done. It was over. Like it was paid in full. They got done.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

But he wasn't done.

SPEAKER_05 52:13

There was like little things left to do. But it pissed me off. Yeah. They were done. Yeah, not. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

But you knew he had more work to do, correct?

SPEAKER_05 52:23

You said No, not when I paid him. I thought he was done, done.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

I found who's the homeless guy that you paid advance that was living in our driveway.

SPEAKER_05 52:32

He was an employee of the get of the drywall guy.

SPEAKER_01 52:35

He was a nice guy, though. And my homeless guy was nice too.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

He asked if he could like make a little fire pit, right?

SPEAKER_01 52:43

Was making like beans over the fire pit in our driveway.

SPEAKER_05 52:45

Like a pudgy pie at a pudgy pie maker.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

And then Johnny's like from Dennis the Menace? That's exactly what I thought of. That's exactly what I thought of.

SPEAKER_05 52:54

I'm like, oh I don't know. I'm not even gonna not even take the the plate. I don't want to know who it is.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Yeah, you were like you were telling Spencer, you're like, don't run plates in the driveway with the construction workers because none of them are.

SPEAKER_05 53:08

But so, anyways. But I would have them, I'm like, just make a hot lap through and just check it out, you know?

SPEAKER_01 53:13

Like just tools there and stuff. Like, um, but the drywall wasn't cut out of the there's like little things, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:21

Like there was no scuttle hole to access the attic and needed two of them, one in a garage, one upstairs. There was like a bunch of outlets covered, which is typical for drywall guys to do, like they cover up outlets to like it was uh enough to piss off to high though. Yeah, too. And then like spots where you you're probably familiar with this, but like when other people, electricians, have to find outlets who are not great at it, yeah, and they just hack up your drywall because they're looking for the outlet, and then the drywall guys are supposed to come back and fix it, like repair it, and they just didn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

So there was a there was a lot. You were pissed.

SPEAKER_05 54:02

I was pissed about it, but I was pissed, and then that made him mad because he had to listen to it.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

Found his number. You gave me his number.

SPEAKER_05 54:09

No, I get I would call him all the time, and he just ghosted me. So then he's I think he blocked me probably.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

That's when you just find a bunch of nails and then you find their car and you put it behind their tires. Yeah, because sooner or later they're gonna figure out four tires cost a lot. Oh, that's happened.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

And this is like minor. This is probably karma. This is probably like a couple hours of work. He could have came back, saved his name, and then you know, like his work.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

You're you're not letting me tell the best part of the story. Four times. You're making it sound like he's a better guy than he is.

SPEAKER_05 54:40

No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

He's you're like, well, it's just little things. No, because you were like, What? You open the closet, you were like and you're like, he didn't finish his job. Like, yeah, this is not at all finished. He needs to come back. You need to come back. He said he wasn't gonna come back. There was some altercation between you guys. So I I stewed. I was pissed. I took it personal. So I got the number and I called him like, hey, um, she was like super nice. I'm like, hey, I'm just looking. I I have some drywall that I need done.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

She left a message.

SPEAKER_01 55:07

Yeah, he called back right away. Hey, this is whatever. I don't even know the guy's name. I'm like, yeah, I have like a small job. I was wondering if you would be able to do some drywall. He's like, Well, yeah, where are you located? I'm like, I said, I where I'm located is put her address down. I'm like, the f host, you were supposed to finish your job at get your like I flipped out. I'm like, get here and finish. He's like, You B word, like call him. I why am I not saying the B word when I said the F word? But like he like flipped out on me. I'm like, you're whatever. I was so mad. I was so mad, but it was refreshing. I feel better about it. I mean, maybe roofing nails would have been better underneath his tires. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 55:47

I wouldn't be out there, just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

Like, so what happened then? Nothing. He called me names and hung up. And he never came back and finished it. Nope, never finished it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 55:56

Okay, he never did.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

Did you ever see that like John Cena video where they call that lady?

SPEAKER_01 56:00

And you're like, This is John Cena.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

No, and they just keep messing with her. That's what that was like. You never did? No. Like they just call some woman, they're like, Hey, we're just wondering, um, is how's your house doing? She's like, Oh, it's doing great. This is John Cena.

SPEAKER_05 56:13

No, it just keeps blowing up and she just hangs up. Do you ever hear that about that guy that calls he's John from John Breaks Bad News? I love John, yeah. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 56:21

Yeah, it's the best.

SPEAKER_05 56:22

I should do that to the house. I should hire that guy.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

So I that inspired me to start, and maybe you would like to join me on this new business adventure. Um I wanted to start a business called Karma. And so you have issues, right? With someone, and you're like, I don't have time, but I need you to get karma. Legally mess with them. Completely legal. Okay, what do you need? What did they do to you? Okay, this is the severity of it. I'll just like cut them off in the in the grocery aisle. I'll like do little things all day, every day.

SPEAKER_03 56:55

So when they go to Aldi's, you take all their quarters out of their car first. Yep. And they can't get nothing.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yep. Or like button line in front of them and just be rude or like I don't know, like not harassing.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

Or if they're like selling because they don't know you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

But you have a team, you have a team of people, so it's not like, oh, there's you again. You know what I mean? So it's like all that's a great job, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:13

I mean, this is like passive aggressive Midwest housewife assassination business. We're only gonna cut them off. You won't bruise them. Oh, sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Or if or if they're like selling something, you just like get them to drive like four hours away to go sell it.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 57:32

Yeah, yeah, that might be why the guy showed up at my house mad that day.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

Really?

SPEAKER_03 57:37

Yeah. What did you do? Tell us. Oh, I just like set it all up on the phone, pranked Tim, and had him drive four and a half hours away to sell his truck, and then nobody was there, but it was a not so nice neighborhood that he was parked in front of.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

This is a guy that owes you 10 grand. So you are starting your own karma business. But you should it's alive and well, you should probably hire some staff for that. Yeah, but wouldn't that be great? Yeah, wouldn't that be a great gig? That is a good.

SPEAKER_03 58:05

I'm still waiting for money from Biker Bryan. Okay, my kite.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

Who's biker Brian?

SPEAKER_03 58:11

Uh, he just owes me money and I need a kite. He told me to go fly a kite. So I took a picture of myself flying a kite and sent it to him, and I said, Well, if you owed me or if you gave me my money back, I could buy a better kite.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

How do how does how does somebody owe you that much money? Is it like us when we like haven't paid our bill yet?

SPEAKER_03 58:30

Like biker Bryan? Yeah, his is only like$150, so yeah. But I have people that would be$10,000 and they'll never know until they come on here. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:41

And it's just like like graphic stuff.

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:45

God, people suck.

SPEAKER_04 58:48

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 58:49

Like at least here, we you can't. I mean, we have I caught a shoplifter, I caught him right-handed, and I'm sure it happens more than we know, but we do have cameras. Your daughter. Oh, yeah, our daughter. But I mean, like, it's hard with our business because it's like you pay for your coffee before you leave. But with yours, I can see how people can stiff you with bills. That would really suck.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

Yeah. And you try to look at the best situation of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:14

What what drives you? What what does money drive you? Success? No, just I mean doing a good job.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Yeah, doing a good job first. And start it to make money. I didn't think it would. Started it when Aubrey was born, and I mean, I needed to make some kind of extra money, just to do some, and then it just turned into that. So it's nice that it pays the bills, but I'm always like reinvesting in it. Like, I mean, we bought like a$30,000 printer the other day. Like, that's a lot of money just for a printer. The other one was working fine, but I mean, hopefully make stuff better then. Yeah.

unknown 59:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:51

So you're always trying to do it.

SPEAKER_05 59:52

I will say that like you walk into your business and like no one from even just the shop that you were at before and the machines you had, like you've expanded a huge amount. You have a huge inventory. The amount of inventory you have is just wild. Yeah, there's just like you did such a great job.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

It's like you said, when you die, your kids are gonna hate you.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Like if they don't want the business, like they're gonna be like, this is terrible.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:14

They're gonna turn into a love to play.

unknown 1:00:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

Do you know what that is? No, no, just like the big uh like tubes that little kids can play in.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

Why we need one of those.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

Well, didn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:25

I know. That's why I said either you guys are gonna run this, or we're gonna open something like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:29

That'd be cool. Yeah, you could wrap all the tubes.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

There you go. What else should we ask him? I feel like there's a lot going on, but it's like, how do you find out that he like there's so many stories each time?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Yeah, this is a random question, but do you have a favorite tattoo story? Because obviously you have a lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:50

Not really. I mean, I don't know. I got these ones for my mom, so probably those ones. And this one says Aubrey and Briella backwards. And then this one, if you pull this up, it's like Aubrey, how she wrote her name. And then if you do this, it looks like it's but it's actually her foot. Yeah, that's such a weird one. Like, I always have my sliders like this, and it just looks like a yeah, a colorful knob. It's not yeah, not ideal situation, but you don't realize it until you're like on your hoodie and you're like it's just rough, and it's rainbow. Yeah, I know. It's like all right. But yeah, I'm glad I got my last name fixed on my back. Yeah, okay. So tell talk about that story because that'd have been a weird uh jail thing.

unknown 1:01:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:38

Okay. What was your tattoo you had to get fixed on your back?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

Oh, I just said my last name because I thought that was cool when I was 17.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

And now what does it say?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:47

Uh sacrifice.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

And what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

I feel like I sacrifice a lot of stuff, but a lot of other people do around me. So it's everybody in my circle it brings together for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:00

Who who did that?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:01

Um, Lakota at Elevated Inc.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:05

Like he was an apprentice under uh Luke at Tadda Dad's. Yep. And then yep. And Luke had hand surgery, so I reached out to from tat do having doing tattoos. Yeah, I guess. A carbon.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

Oh my god, that's insane.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Yeah, that's what I fear. I fear like I'm gonna have a stroke and just like one of my hands isn't gonna work, and then I just be like, do nothing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

I feel like the silent killer in my hands are like, uh, what do you do?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:30

And then then someone will come in and do a really job.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

Dude, for real. You're like trying to help them, yeah. You can't, yeah, no, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

You just have to.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

Stephen Hawkins sitting there trying to fly and he just, yeah, getting pushed everywhere. It's so rough.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

That's your personal health.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:45

Yeah, that'd be bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

That's how my best friend was like when she heard my blood pressure. She's like, Yeah, I know it's not like high if it's just like once in a while, but if that's your blood pressure every day, all day, you're gonna stroke out. In your luck, you're gonna be alive. Yeah, and you're gonna have to watch things happen, and you're not gonna be able to. That would be the hardest part.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Yeah, that'd be terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

I'd be so bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:06

We'll just put you, give you a good wall we'll look at.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

It's a nice one. A padded one. Like the eighth grade stroking out again. This is a different sock.

unknown 1:03:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:24

So, who's the most influential person in your life?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:28

Uh, probably my mom or my dad, then, like everyone would say.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:33

Not everybody.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

Not everybody? No, no. No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:37

Tell me about your mom. I know you write about her a lot. Like, how did she cancer?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:41

Mm-hmm. She had it my whole life. Really? Yep. So I always say that I don't know if that was worse than like her randomly passing away, like some people have to deal with. It just but yeah, every year it was just something.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

What kind of cancer did she have?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:57

Uh well, she had breast cancer originally, and then it uh was skin cancer, and then like breast again, then like bone at the end. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

Is your dad still alive?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Which is nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

He always goes on adventures for me, picking up stuff. Does he? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

Keith's dad likes to go on adventures with us.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:20

I love taking my dad on little little quests. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:22

You know, it's usually to get an old car.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:25

Or like a random outboard boat engine, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

You got a good deal on that though.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:31

I had to drive the Bayfield to get it. You know, things like that. Or like uh uh I put a UTV V plow in the back of the minivan. That was Copper Harbor, all the way up to Copper Harbor to get that. He came with me for that too.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

He's always up for an adventure. I hate traveling.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

It's fun. Yeah, no, we always do that. It's fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

And where does your dad live, Shano?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:57

Uh Wittenberg.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Okay. And you said you graduated from Bowler.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:02

Top of my class.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

Okay, I remember I sent you a reel.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:06

I was the class president.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

Yeah, I sent you a reel, and I said, were you and you're like, actually, oddly enough, I was like an A student. Okay, most entrepreneurs, if you ask them, they were like the C students or worse, and like unorganized and like didn't fit into a box. Yeah. And I was surprised, not saying like I don't think you're dumb, like you definitely are smart, but I'm surprised you were a good student.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

Yeah, my mom made maybe if we didn't get A's, it was bad. She's like, I'm not gonna die with a C student. Yeah, literally, I think she said that once. Well, and I said, Well, I don't know. I wouldn't do it right now because it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

Yeah, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:41

Yeah, thanks for the extra pressure, Mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:43

You were a good student, yeah. Well, yeah, grade-wise, not acting, which isn't I guess it's important, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:50

Like our senior year, we snuck into the school and put all the dust in the hall, and the cops had to come.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

Can you imagine if they did like that now?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:58

Oh, yeah, that'd be bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:00

When when I was in high school, one of the pranks, homecoming pranks, that somebody did was they put they put a like a large pig on the roof. And then what was their name? I don't know. You might ask that. It's a real, I don't know. Rolls that they're and like a hundred birds released inside of the school. Oh that was a pretty good one. Yeah, but how do you get a pig off a roof? Like they're not easy to catch, right? Oh, yeah, that's bad. And then you just gotta chase it and see what happens.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:33

Yeah, that thing's dumb enough just to jump off. It's just a massacre.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:37

It stayed up there. Really? Yeah. It did not want to come down.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

How did they get it down?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:42

I I don't know. I imagine probably wrapped it in something and then carried it down with two ladders.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:48

Yeah, you just can't do stuff like that. No, they'd be really mad about that. PETA would be over there. Oh, I thought you were gonna say all the birds were attacking the pig. That'd be epic.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:58

Oh no. But I remember one of my I'm not even gonna say his name because he's a great dude, but um one of the teachers was like freaking out about the birds. And I get it. Like I'm not I'm not like soulless, you know, like but he's he's like, all these birds are gonna just fly into windows and die.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

Yeah, that happens.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:20

Like that's sad. They're like sparrows. Oh, there's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

So why don't you just open the doors and let them fly out?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:28

I think they did. I think most of them or the windows. Most of them survive. Yeah, probably not, but maybe I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

Yeah, Bowler used it was from kindergarten to uh 12th grade, so we put all the deaths in the hall. The whole entire building was filled. They barricaded it, they couldn't get in. Just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

How did you break in?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:48

Uh I w visited the principal a lot, and then he had like cool key ring. So yeah, we got that.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

I thought maybe like that's it's you so you stole the keys, yeah. Okay, just the one, just the one. So I thought maybe it like you slept there, like waited. Oh you know, yeah, it's only over like just like yeah, no alarms went off or anything back then, probably not.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

No, because I knew where to do it at.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:20

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:21

We put something in the door in the elementary synonymous yeah. And did they ever find out what it was you? Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:29

What happened?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:30

Yeah, but I didn't rat anyone out, so I couldn't be the class president anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:35

Oh I know that's what I said.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

Uh 12 of you are gonna have to do it yourself, and then uh didn't get to go on a class trip, so we probably didn't get like AW or something, and then like there's like a hundred dollars I lost out on, got a couple fines, and yeah, I did get to walk at graduation. Oh, but I think that's only because my mom was sick, so I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:57

My mom needs to see this.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:58

Yeah, she was there, she's like, we need to see this. Aww.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

Yeah, that's that's a pretty impressive prank.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

It went over good, I thought. But then we were like dot like hitting each other with all these balls in the gym when it's just pitch black. It just yeah, that was something.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:16

Are you still friends with a lot of people you graduated with?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

Uh, I try not to be, but yeah. No, there's a uh there's a couple good ones that, yeah. We just were gonna have our uh come up with a class reunion or something. Because I feel like uh you go through those stages of where we all kind of went our own way for sure, and then we're all coming back, and now we're all like seeing that maybe it's kind of important to like because we all were like super close, so it's nice to be at like that one stage where we hopefully appreciate where everyone is at.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

I so here's the thing I haven't been to one class reunion, and it's not that I don't like my class, it's just like what school? Manoah, oh like the rodeo, just like the rodeo, the only thing Manoa has.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:03

I had some stories about that, but really, yeah, but keep going.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Um but every time a reunion approaches, I'm like, I just don't have it in me to go. And I always thought, like, especially like the younger version, probably the younger version of you two, would be like, dude, Casey, go look at you. You should be proud of you, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:25

Oh, I don't yeah, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:27

No, you're not proud of you?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:28

Well, yeah, but I don't know. I'd rather go there and just mess with everyone.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:33

Yeah, yeah. See, I I would I probably beat all the odds, so I think like holy, holy shit, she's not in prison. Yeah, like legit, like she is not in prison.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

She's actually she drove herself here. This is crazy. Legally, yeah. Do you see that car out there? It's got all the doors. This is crazy. Exactly. Her shoes are tied, it's a valid license with insurance. Unlike that uh bus driver in Green Bay. What happened?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

Okay, we don't watch the news or anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

No, what the bus driver that was driving on them old people to the casino up north? No, and he blew through the thing by Bay Beach and hit a snowbank and he had no insurance, no nothing. All these elderly people are injured. This just happened. That's so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:17

Oh all that free play they lost out on. It's crazy. Just imagine that, right? Come all the way up from Illinois, just no free play. Really? Yeah. They were coming down.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:28

So he had like a bus coming up. Big base charter bus. Was the guy like a busy business?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:32

Was a guy drunk?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:33

I don't know. And it was his own. His own. And he has had like hasn't had a license since 2017 or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:39

Huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

Come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:41

Yeah. Maybe he's just holding on to it. Blowing all the tolls probably on the way here. They're not paying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

So that's probably what my class thought where I would end up being.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

Yeah. I bet a lot of people were surprised when they heard that I was a cop. They were like, what? No way.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:56

Those are the best funds.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:57

Yeah, they are. They're not the nerds. No. You you can tell. I could tell by at least when I worked with cops, I'm like, oh, you were a nerd in school. Like complete nerd. And then you'd be like, oh, you were, you broke the law.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:09

You're fun. Like, this is you, you get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:11

You got picked on. This other guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

You got picked on. Don't take it out on that guy. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:17

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:17

It's not your fault. Their fault. You're a nerd. Yeah. Right. Yep.

unknown 1:12:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:21

And I know I have a cop in my mind right now. I can see his face.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:25

Oh, I have a dozen.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

Yep. And I'm like, and Carney and I always were like, he got picked last. For sure. So he's taken out on everyone.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

Was he a sheriff?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:34

Nope. City cop.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

And I actually got along okay with him. But like he would have been.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:41

Oh, you have one like in mind. You're like. Oh, I see his face. You're hanging out with him right now. You're pretending Casey's him.

unknown 1:12:51

No. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:52

Anyways, what else? Kami, what else should we ask Casey? I feel like we're there. This is gonna be enough follow-up. Like we need to get in. He probably needs to be in beers and banter. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:03

Be like the comedian starter for the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:06

Yes. Do you what's your what's your thoughts about conspiracy theories? Do you think they're out there?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:11

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:11

Or do you think we're told the truth all the time?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:13

No. All the stuff I do with AI now, I just imagine what the government does.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

Like what they have been doing this whole time. It's sweet. If this is released to us now, okay, what what is your question?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Oh my question was just gonna be like pulling from a question you've used before, but what advice would you give your younger self?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:34

Oh yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:37

Um I guess I would just I mean it's all worked out. I feel like no matter what, it's all worked out. Like I went to college, just wasted a bunch of time.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

Was it a waste of time? Yeah, like what did you go to college for?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:53

Uh, to be a P teacher. Where did you go?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:55

Oh, I can see that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Uh UWGB, and then it would have transferred to Oshkosh. So I'm like three credits shy. And I was like, yeah, these guys don't make nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:04

We get to wear like sweatpants every day.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:06

Yeah, and like just play basketball whenever it's raining outside. Like, that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

So, what would be the advice you'd you'd give yourself?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:13

Um maybe to trust less people. Oh, I feel like I trust a lot of people for what it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:21

I think that's okay. Wouldn't you rather live? Like I've often thought about that myself. And I think it's like my own personality flaw is that I'm too trusting of people. It's just surprising because I'm a cop. You know, but also I think about how this life would be if I didn't. Oh, it it's so negative, I feel like, that it's worthwhile getting burnt by those people. Yep. You know, when it does happen, it's worthwhile going through that and living.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:51

Because at least you know you did that. I mean, I don't know. That you help somebody, you try to, yeah. It's their own. So yeah, but yeah, that happens all the time. I'm just like, imagine how much money I'd have. Yeah. I'd be on this huge podcast, if you fell man. Yeah, there'd be cameras everywhere. There'd be a production team. I would have knew that the WIA was free.

unknown 1:15:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:14

Schnooji lose.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:17

Thanks, Casey, so much for coming on. We'll have you on for sure. And probably beers and banter.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:22

Would you want to do that? Sure. Like we just talk conspiracy theories and crazy stuff. Like drink with a lot of fun stories.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:30

Like a live studio audience. I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:32

That's what we want to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:33

But it must be kind of fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

Like it would be evenings when this place is closed and live studio audience and like pick a topic. Did we I'm surprised you didn't ask. Did we land on the moon? Do you think we landed on the moon?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:45

No. I already knew the answer. How do you know? I just you got a good feel of all that. Absolutely not. Yeah.

unknown 1:15:54

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:54

All right. Thanks, Casey. Welcome to you. We'll see you guys next Tuesday. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:58

Bye. Help me freely walk in your eye.