Why Local News Still Matters

Savannah Wood from Good Day Wisconsin on Fox11 joins us for a conversation about how she got into journalism and what live TV is actually like.

From starting in a middle school news program to working in local news, she talks about learning to think on her feet, building confidence on camera, and why being real matters more than being perfect. 

The conversation also gets into early mornings, connecting with people, and the real impact local news can have on small businesses and the community.

Unfiltered, a little chaotic, and a solid behind-the-scenes look at local news.

Grab a coffee, pull up a chair, and get to know Savannah with us.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Hi. Welcome to Beans and Banter. I'm Nicole Fisher and this is my husband.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Are you ready, Cammy?

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Oh shit Sorry, no, I was I heard like a weird sound and I was like, what is this?

SPEAKER_04 0:10

But we're not. I when I feel like I can hear us, I know. Yeah. No, where are we going?

unknown 0:15

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

Is this camera good? It looks like it's pointing at my knee.

SPEAKER_04 0:19

Um about you make a color. She's has she failed us once?

SPEAKER_03 0:24

No.

SPEAKER_04 0:24

Okay.

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I just we th I felt like we jumped a gun a little bit.

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Tammy was all like that one's a funky lens, so it's angled pretty cool. I'm intrigued.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

You are feeling close to me.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

You tell me. You know Johnny.

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Tell me freely while your eye. So this is Keith. This is Nicole.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

Fisher. And we are on Beans and Banter. And today we have a special guest, Savannah Wood. Thanks for having me. You're welcome. Savannah is from Channel 11 News, but she's more than that. And that's what we want to talk to her about today. Um, she's been to the mill four times on stories.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

The longest, and you know, I think you were one of my first segments, and I think I've been here more times than I've been anywhere else. Oh my gosh, that is awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

And so she's but I mean, how could you not?

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Well, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

You take care of me once you have a little taste of it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Gotta keep coming back.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

And then the last time she did a segment here, we were like, hey, we're doing a podcast, or you talked about the podcast on your segment, and we're like, let's keep you on and talk about who you are more than the channel 11 girl, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Yeah, you said you are telling everyone else's story. Yeah, you are. We want to hear your story. Yeah. Like, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_04 2:02

Yeah, so we want to hear all about you. All about you today. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

But first, okay. You know he gets weird and like asks weird questions. Have you watched any of our I have. I told you she would do it. I ask weird questions.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Of course. And I think that's part of this, part of the conversation, right? I what is preparation anyway? Yeah. I'm used to being on the fly.

SPEAKER_04 2:22

You are actually, you are really good at that. Thank you. Remember you trying to wrap a present and you're like, you know what? It's okay. So good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Gotta roll with the punches. You might think people like they do being human.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

They do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

When things happen a little bit differently, or you know, people say they'd rather see you be really good at something or really bad at something. So if you're finding yourself in the middle, just swing to the other side and be bad at wrapping gifts.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

Yeah, you're no, you're really good at um being real on camera. And I think that's why people love you. Like when you're eating drinking one of our lattes and you had like the whip all over your face. Like people love that. That's how you get stalkers. Yeah. We'll talk about that later. But first, let's get with Keith's weird questions.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Do you believe that we landed on the moon?

SPEAKER_04 3:09

There's no judgment. There's no right or wrong.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

This is a free space here.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

This is where she loses her job.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

In this building personality. In your own personal opinion. Everybody can have their own personal opinions.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

I question it.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

But I don't know enough. Like, I don't even think I've watched a deck documentary about it. So she doesn't like science, she said.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

So that would make sense that you're like, I don't really care.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

I was never good at it in school. I was I always did well in school. I got all A's. I just had to work harder for that science grade.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Okay. Do you do you like to travel?

SPEAKER_00 3:42

I do. I don't do a lot of it though. I do like locally here, but I think um I haven't been a lot of places, like I haven't been out of the country ever. Which I want to. Yeah. So what are you laughing at jobs?

SPEAKER_03 3:58

If you were visited by aliens and they were like, hey, we'll take you on a tour of the entire galaxy. You could travel the entire galaxy. You get to see worlds that nobody's ever seen before. Except for them. They know about them. They got like they know the good places to go, the places to spot. Check out.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

See, I feel like I would go with aliens, but if right now someone asks me if you want to go to space, like I would say no.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

But an alien would. What do you think an alien looks like? How would they appear before you and you'd be like, all right, that's an alien.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Yeah, I think you would just know. I don't think they would look as weird as like, you know, green and small and I don't think so either. Like, I'm not picturing like I don't know, the classic or like E.T. Like, I'm not picturing that, honestly. I'm picturing like more human-like than people expect.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Do you remember Men in Black? The movie. Those movies. I know of them. I've probably not seen them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

I'm not a big movie person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

Well, look at all the other movies that they were like, oh, just totally science, so totally science fiction, and then that comes true. So, like, remember those some of the aliens in that movie? You watch them.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Never say never. I've only seen the trailer. I've never actually watched the movie.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Homework time and Kami. I know. So I think that I think I'm gonna make my voice watch until I catch up.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_04 5:21

I think that question really was disappointing to you for her because she doesn't give a about outer space.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Well, I think it's cool for some people. See, I really do enjoy most things. Like I can talk to people about things that I don't know anything about, and I'm like, I really am genuinely intrigued and interested. Yeah. Um, that's something I haven't yeah, if you dove into.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

If you were posed that question, they're like, we'll take you all over. You'll only be gone a week.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

A week. Yeah, I'd probably do that.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

What do you what do you at all?

SPEAKER_04 5:54

You could do a great she could do a great story on it.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah, thank you. Is it for work? Because that would be even cooler.

SPEAKER_03 5:59

Yeah, paid to go. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

You know, something happens that it's not fully on me.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

She did paid mileage, because that'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

That would be that would be cool. That would be cool. So you could definitely like I'm gonna veer away from this crazy question.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Yeah, that's it. Usually no further questions, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

Um, but like you, you could have, and I don't know if this is even maybe it's your plan, and I don't know. You could have your own news like on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

You that's the way the world's going.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

It really is, because people don't believe news sources anymore. You know what I mean? Depending on the name behind it. I feel like you would do a great job. Don't you agree, Cammy? Her personality. Thank you. Like, if you were like, I'm gonna launch my own news and like report on things, and you would probably make so much money.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

Yeah, probably. Do you have like do you do you have like uh contracts that you sign that you can't do stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Well, I don't exactly know if that we do have contracts that we sign, um, but I don't know if that's really involved in it, and it might be in the future, like that might be a thing that they start to do.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Oh, they're gonna know it too.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

We'll have to edit this hour.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

You're gonna have to hurry up and start. They're gonna have to do it.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

I think it's I think local news is so awesome. Like, I'm obviously biased, but I think it's so unique to like meet people and know people. Like, we've had people at my station that interned and have been here their whole career and are from here, but then people like me who are coming from Pennsylvania and know nothing and are getting a whole new view of everything. And I know a lot of people, especially that are younger my age, don't watch the news and are like, I don't want to worry about it. I don't pay attention to it, and that's fine. I just don't think it's like the flex that people think that it is. I agree. Like, I think it's cool to be informed. Yes, that's like my favorite thing about my job, especially on the weekends anchoring, hearing every single news story. And like, you know, I go home at night and I'm FaceTiming my boyfriend, and we're talking about what's happening in the world, and I'm like, wait, I actually know about that, or I actually know information about that. So it feels so good to be informed. Like most people, I mean, we all have our jobs, we all have stuff going on. My job is to know. So it's it just feels nice to feel like included in the world in a weird way. Like a weird thing.

SPEAKER_04 8:24

That really makes me like her more and what you do more. Um, because you help small businesses so much by showing up and doing segments on them.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Like whole communities.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

We still have people coming in. Oh, I saw you. I saw you on the new, you know, like with Savannah and whatever, whatever, whatever is that what's that channel called? Good day is gone. Okay, you're fine. I'm kind of kidding. Um, I wasn't saying spaced up. There's so many of them. I was gonna say good morning America, but I'm like, I don't think that was another Savannah. That's not our Savannah. Um but so sad.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

So why? What's sad? Savannah Guthrie is on Good Morning America and like her mom, but she just returned um to the show, even though her mom hasn't been returned yet, which is heartbreaking. But I always thought I'm like no one knows what they would do in that situation. Yeah, I just feel awful and so sad.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

Yeah, I had to actually, I I'm guilty, I didn't really follow that story too well.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

And then a lady at Luigi's was telling us You'd be surprised with how little we know, and that's okay. Maybe maybe people aren't surprised with how little we know. I'd be like, Yeah, that check.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

Because she said, because we were going to Arizona, and a lady at a waitress at Luigi's like, oh, be very careful. And I'm like, why? And she's like, Well, it's dangerous. I'm like, what's what's happening? Like, I was thinking weather wise, and she said, kid. I'm like, no one's gonna kidnap me. Like, they're like, No, thank you. No, no, be kicking and screaming. That is then I looked into it. I'm like, oh yeah. But um, so I like I like your take on local news because I agree. I think it's very important to be informed with what's going on in our community, where you should go, and if a business is failing, and to help them and whatever, all the things that people don't know that don't get out that don't have social media. That's a big one. Because a lot of people don't have social media, and so the the news is the only source. Don't you agree?

SPEAKER_03 10:18

So the brought a question. Um, is that like the lure of it? Is that like how why you got in the yeah?

SPEAKER_04 10:27

Why don't you get into let's talk about your is it is it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 10:30

But was that what you loved about it? What was the uh it's the draw?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

It's kind of unconventional how I got into everything. When I was in middle school, they wanted to start a news program to like air in the morning to tell people about what was for lunch and all the basic things. And there was the Spanish teacher actually said, um, you know, kind of asked around, oh, who would be good for this news channel? And I guess my English teacher at the time thought I'd be a good person to recommend for this. So I was like, oh yeah, of course, I'll join in. I was always very involved. I like to be involved in things. I played sports growing up and being part of a team and whatever else. And um, I loved it. We filmed it on a little iPad and we posted on YouTube. Uh, you know, we filmed it the day before, and then all the classes would kind of air it in their classroom the next morning. Well, then I got to high school and we had a whole new set. Like it was amazing. A control room. Um, I remember a local news station came in and was like, this is nicer than comedy, you know, but we have stuff we got. Yeah. And uh I think it I just kind of came in at the right time because I think it was built maybe like, I mean, maximum three years before I got to the high school. And I did a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff. I was in the control room a lot. Um, TV news one, two, and three, I took. And um, I kind of realized in high school, I'm like, oh, this could be a job. Like, this is pretty neat. I enjoy the on the fly, the live stuff. I like having to improvise and kind of just go off the seat of my pants and see what's going on. And then Penn State, my older stepsister went there, my brother went there. So it was kind of destined for me to go. And they had a brand new program, like a whole new building with sets and everything else. So I applied broadcast journalism, ended up minoring in sports studies. And I always thought that whole time I was doing clubs and I was always behind the scenes. I just kind of expected that to be the kind of the route that I went. And then my senior year, I joined what's called the Center County Report. So it was like our school's news channel, and we went live every Friday, and you were able to have any role that you wanted. So you could do anchoring or sports anchoring, and you had to audition for those, or you could, you know, produce or just be a reporter. And I was close with my teacher at the time, and he's my mentor, Steve Krasik. He helped me do so many things, you know, was like, we have society professional journalists. Why don't you join this? And we visited Philadelphia news stations and, you know, went to Boston and we did so many cool things with different conventions and stuff that got me into it. But once we came to that point, he's like, What roles, you know, do you want to have? I'm like, I want to do everything. I just want to see what I like because you don't really know until you do it. And I'd done a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff, but I'm like, let me try, let me try producing, let me try reporting, let me try anchoring. And I remember auditioning for like the anchor position and being so nervous for it.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Can you say can you say the anchor woman?

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Anchor woman, anchor woman position, anchor man. My dad loved that movie growing up. Did you watch Anchorman? I've seen it too many times.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

And number two sort of realistic. Is that like how you guys act?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

I heard at one time that was kind of how it was. Really? Yeah. And I don't think it's realistic anymore.

SPEAKER_04 13:53

And then you have no clue. But you put cuts on each other's hair, like you have bad hair.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

No. At least not here. People are too nice around here. They are. Which I love. Yeah. Midwest. Everyone's everyone's friends. Like, at least I can't speak for every station everywhere, but like where we are, like, I swear the connection for everybody is even like the banter and everything's even more off-camera than it is on camera. Oh, really? Yeah. That's awesome. Um, which is so nice. And everyone's always knowing what's going on in everyone's lives. Like, you know, where are you going and how's the family doing and all that?

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Just nosy Nancy's.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

But anyway, long-winded, that's my entire story of how I kind of got into it. And I realized I loved the on-camera presence stuff during that year, my senior year. So, you know, when I was applying for jobs and I realized, oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to live far away from home. And it made me nervous because I love my family. I'm very close with my family. I have a big family.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

I love you said that your mom's like, you look really pretty in that pink today. She's so that's so sweet. She is like I told her do that too. I'm like, pink is your color.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Yes, my mom said the same thing. Every day I have a work phone, I have a personal phone. So I'm usually just on my work phone, but I'll check in on my personal. And she's always like, that blue you're wearing, and Emily's wearing the same color. You guys are matching that. That's what a good mom you have. She's the best. And you know, yeah, watching from PA, she knows more about Wisconsin news than she does about Huston.

SPEAKER_04 15:14

That is so great. What a great family. Well, we're gonna dive into your family. Oh, yeah. But let's let's talk about how important it is for any teachers listening. The power of just being like, I have a person that would be good for that. And look at your Spanish teacher. Should we give her a shout out or do we not like her?

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Oh my gosh, we love her.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Um, why am I blanking on her name?

SPEAKER_03 15:36

Did you got married at one point? By chance. Did you look into her windows at home at all when you were in middle school?

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Did you see that part? I didn't. You should we were friends.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Is that just a man owe thing?

SPEAKER_04 15:50

Anyways, um but like the power of nice, the power of doing that. Look at that. It's your it's your Spanish teacher. Yeah. Well, then all the people along the way, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Well, of course. But like that was something I never would have like say that club came out. I don't know if I would have been like, oh, maybe but like knowing that someone thinks you can do something, especially that age. I mean, like, I can't speak for everyone, but middle school like is not a great time for most people, it wasn't for me.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Definitely an empowering thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

So now it's funny. I just had a piphany, epiphany, epiphany, epiphany, epiphany. Mrs. Judas called me Harriet the spy. So that is maybe why I was a spy.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

Oh, yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

But speaking into windows, all right. Now it's coming full circle.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

Yeah, it's it's hitting. It's all coming full circle.

unknown 16:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

I don't think I don't think you can blame anybody else but yourself for that decision.

SPEAKER_04 16:49

Okay, maybe not. But um, okay, let's talk about the beginning. What were you like as a child? Um, and how many siblings do you have?

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Okay, I have an older and a younger brother. We're each like three-ish years apart, and then I have an older stepsister and an older stepbrother, and all of us are like three years apart about so that means five of us total didn't have the step siblings until I want to say seventh grade? Seventh grade about as a kid. That's like such an interesting question because I don't really remember like like a ton about like my childhood. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

Like certain blips and stuff, but I don't know what I know from pictures and what I know from oh, that's weird because that's one of the original questions he asked, your oldest memory that's not a picture.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Oh my gosh. I really, I don't really know. Things will come into my head and I'm like, oh my god, wait. I kind of remember being at Disney World with my mom and my my dad, and you know my mom's parents and waiting in line for a ride. Which I'm like, okay, I know there can't be a photo of that because why would there be a photo of that?

unknown 17:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

But I definitely gained the outgoingness and the talkativeness as I got older. Like, I don't think I was like that when I was younger.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

What do you think brought that out in yon? I don't know. Just confidence in I guess.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

I really don't know. And I know that as I've gotten older, I've been more and more outgoing. Like I remember being at restaurants and being like, oh mom, like they forgot XYZ. Like, can you ask?

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Or have ever ordered for you? We make our mean we're like ordered. Or yourself. Order. Look at look at the waiter.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

No, and I felt like I could do that. And like my parents were great with that. But for whatever reason, yeah, when I got older, I was like, either I'm not gonna say anything, or like I'm just too, it's like too aligned between being too polite and being like so.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

You were meant for the Midwest from the beginning, I think. I think so. Oh, you forgot my silver cream. Oh, don't worry about it. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I do say that though, like I feel like I'm meant to be here. Yeah, you do in that sense. And so your boyfriend lives in Pennsylvania. He does.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

That's crazy. Yes, I know. And his job, you I know we spoke about this, but he can't move because of his job, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah, basically, like the company he works for doesn't have any terror. Like he go to Wausau, but that's not it's not here, yeah, you know?

SPEAKER_04 19:16

Yeah, it's not and what that tells me is you're not gonna be here forever.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

I can't imagine leaving. That's that's the so something's gonna have to give. Well, we're gonna figure it out. But I'm one of those people where I'm like, I don't worry about it until I absolutely have to. Because if not, I'm gonna spiral. If it's working, yeah, it's working, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Yeah, and we know you love your job. Yes, but if you had any other opportunities, where could you see yourself working? Like what what like type of what do you have any like interest in football or basketball, what baseball, or anything like that?

SPEAKER_00 19:53

I funny enough, I got a sports studies minor. I thought that that was kind of the route I wanted to go. And as I watched, um, and I think these people are amazing, and the way that they're able to spin the same questions in a way. I think about that too. I'm like new again and make it new again. And I give them so much kudos for that because I just don't know if I'd be able to do that. And you're reaching people in such maybe difficult moments or moments where they just want to be with their team or with their family or with XYZ. So I kind of looked at it from that lens of like, I don't know if that is actually for me. Like I thought it was for me. And I love sports and I love watching it. And ever like I in college, I like worked a lot of the sports and I couldn't watch it the same. I'm like, oh, they're on camera three, oh, they're on the handheld camera, like, oh, this person's over here and over there, and um, everything in between. So yeah, but I think now that I've done what I do now, the live stuff, no scripting, talking with people, you know, meeting people that day and being with them for a handful of hours and really like bringing out the best in them. And I always say, I'm like, I'm here to make you look good. Like I want you to feel comfortable. I want you to put your best foot forward. And live TV is not easy.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

You do good because I don't get, I don't lose like my train of thought. I do okay, I lose my train of thought a lot. But like plenty. I don't do I don't get loss for words much. I'll just fill it in with nonsense, but you do a good job at filling it. Yeah, you'll you'll do it. You'll like I and that's what I told the girls, I'm like, don't worry, she's never gonna make you look stupid. Like, you if someone's like, um, you're like, oh yeah, so this is like you just like you're so you're so good at that. Thank you. So when you come, I'm never worried. I'm like, I'm never gonna look stupid.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

I mean, unless I was worried the first time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

I mean, I was but do you remember the last segment? I'm like, did we put bacon on that? You're like, yep, there's bacon. And there was. I'm like, what am I missing? Oh, yeah, there's bacon. I know, but you do very good at like making um and I imagine you were that type of child. And that's why I asked that in friend that you make people feel comfortable. That like you could probably sense if someone's uncomfortable by like either complimenting them. I don't know, is that how you are? Or maybe you're this huge jerk. Maybe someone super fake. Maybe someone's listening, they're like, I think that is not the fake.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

I do really sense, like, I think it's the emotional and intuitiveness. Like, if somebody is just like a smidge off, like even if I'm calling like my mom on the phone, like I'm like, what went wrong today? Because I can tell something's up or anything along those lines.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Or seem very intuitive.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

With like segments, say if I'm talking to someone, I can tell that they're like, oh shoot, what am I talking about? Or or like what I was gonna say. That's always why I talk before and I'm not just like show up. Okay, here we go. Three, two, one, lie. Like us? Yeah. Well, we don't want to ruin good combo. Well, no, no, no. The podcasting's different.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

But like letting people know what we're gonna be talking about, and that way I know their answers. Oh, yeah. To a degree. I mean, people surprise me all the time, and I want it to be conversational. But that way, if they start kind of spacing, I'm like, oh, well, earlier you were mentioning this.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

Because you do that, you do great. You do great at your job. I'm like, stop. But I feel like it's a I feel like it's a personality. What makes you good at your job? I feel like it's your personality because I feel like you're in a type of friend that is in like includes everybody, like makes everyone feel good in the room.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_04 23:32

Like in a in a mean girl world, right? Sometimes girls can be mean. I feel like you were like the nice person that was like, oh, but Peggy, your shoes look great. You know, maybe you spilt a hot dog on your shirt. We don't want you in a picture. Peggy.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Peggy will be getting quite a bit. Peggy will be in the back of the picture.

SPEAKER_04 23:52

We'll hide you in front of Peggy. You couldn't have my shirt. Okay. Keith, what else? What else? I mean, we're not done, but I mean, like, what else do you want to answer?

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Oh no, that's it. All right.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Okay, ready for it.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Wait, I know I'm here to I know you're here asking me questions. Yeah. But like leading up to say the first segment that we did together of like me reaching out and being like, Yeah, do live segments. Was that something that you were like, you kind of knew how it would go? Or after the fact you were like, oh, we had no clear.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

We had no idea.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

We had so we had zero extra.

SPEAKER_04 24:19

But you're like, let's do this. Yeah. Somebody reached out. I don't know what they were like, hey, do you want to come on set and bring stuff in? And we're like, no. Thank you. But no.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

And we've repet repetitively said that since like that. I don't think you quite understand. Like, we're not, we're not the draw. The building is the draw.

SPEAKER_04 24:40

You guys are the draw too.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

The environment.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

So, like, and I explained that. I'm like, I could bring clothes on the set, I could bring coffee and show you like drink specials, but like, you know, because you're here, right? And people will, we know it. It's an experience. Like, you have to come to the mill. And and just us showing you some sweaters or jeans that we're selling isn't isn't going to do justice. Like, and it's not like an arrogant thing, like, no, you have to come here. But it's like, I don't want to, I don't want to bring the mill there because the mill, we're never gonna be able to replica this. This is never like, even if we try and we find another old mill, it's not gonna be like the Bon Noel mill, right? At least in our eyes. In our eyes. So when you reached out and you kind of pitched, we're like, oh, this is a big deal. Like, this is she's coming here. And then people have asked us, how much does how much do you pay her? I'm like, we've never paid her.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Do people pay you? Do people pay you?

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Someone asked me once, they said, okay, what do we have a bill with it's running, don't you worry. You pay me in coffee.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Do not because that happens.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Someone asked me once. I was so thrown off. They said, Oh, how much do you charge for this? I'm like, no, that's not, that's not which is so great.

SPEAKER_04 25:53

Do you know how much you know how much, because it's your line of work, how much that would cost?

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Honestly, a lot. I don't, yeah. I know a lot of money. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

And in just getting the word out, like marketing alone is and I and I say this like there is a definitely a market out for people helping you market because I feel bad for the boomers or the people that hate social media. How do you run a business without it now? It's so hard. So people like you that come in and you're like, hey, can I do a segment? And and we didn't really know, but now we're like, oh, we saw the power of that.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Like it it brought in a tongue went up like 30% the week. Yes, it was insane.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

So you do you what you think you're doing, you're making a difference. It is, it's not just like reporting stuff, you make a difference in businesses. So we love you. We're like a huge fan. I mean, not just for that reason, but because if you're replaced, we'll probably love them too. Just kidding. Just kidding. But yeah, your personality is great, so you do make a huge difference. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Um, I uh I love it, and that's my favorite part, and that's what I talk about oftentimes. You know, you go home at the end of the day and you're having deep convos, whether it's you know, my boyfriend or what. But I'm like, the difference I'm able to make, I'm trying, of course. But it's kind of hard to fathom. Like, and I love when people say, message me back and say, give me like metrics of something like you just heard now. Exactly. 30%, you're like, holy, that's a lot. Yeah, I tend to forget, I'm talking to my audience, and I know it's the community as a whole, but I tend to forget just how many people are watching. Um, and I think like if I tried to picture the amount of people in a room, it would really Do you have data on that?

SPEAKER_03 27:43

Do you know how many?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

We get data every once in a while, and I mean, in the tens of thousands of people, and it depends on the day, it depends on probably the time of year and morning versus night news. Like, some people are watching all day, sure. Some people are watching just in certain points of the morning, some people are watching online, um, and get us social media, and that's something that they push more.

SPEAKER_04 28:05

Also, those people bring people with that maybe didn't see it, but it's like, oh, I brought my girlfriends, we're here, you know. Like, it's just the the effect of of what you're doing, and that's why I see a lot of like TikTokers or social media people that are doing like there's a couple Wisconsin pages in um the Glen here in town. They it they almost got, I don't want to say too big for a Friday, but like they weren't prepared. Yeah, they were slammed, they ran out of every like everything because she had some social media person come in and she did a story on their place and it's new. They like just opened, and it's a great place, you should check it out. But it's almost like it brought in too many people at once.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

There's there is a problem with growing too fast when we're when you're very young. Yeah, um, we've experienced that, but also it pushes you outside of your comfort zone and you helps you prepare. Yeah, and you learn and you get better from it. Um we were gonna ask you. We were did you take a nap before you came?

SPEAKER_04 29:05

Oh, yeah, I was wondering. I said that before bed because you're an early bird. Before bed, I said, I'm like, I wonder if Savannah's gonna, I'm putting in lotion. I wonder if Savannah's gonna nap before she didn't say that.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

I didn't today. I didn't, and I just I went to bed a little bit earlier last night. I was I'll nap at some point.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

I sound like your stalker. I sound like your stalker because I was telling Justine because she's like, you she's like, I watched Good Morning, Good Day, Wisconsin. You guys weren't on it. I'm like, no, I said Savannah's coming on our podcast. I said she probably has to nap because she gets up so early. She's up like at three. You're up at like three.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Three is when my alarm goes off. 255.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Yeah, it's Nicole outside your window looking.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

She knows. Yeah, get up. I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

I'm here.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Oh no, there's another, there's another on her peep and tom list.

SPEAKER_04 29:58

Um the the the jokes that you I'm just adjusting my tie. The jokes that I keep saying about her having stalkers is because I worry about her. And she has uh her own page on Facebook, and I'm like, there's a lot of people that comment that are males and it just I and they're creepy weirdos.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Like guys, knock it off.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

Like, and and so we were saying before the cameras were rolling. I'm like, maybe they are sweet, you know what I mean? Like, if you want to be pure-minded and not have a corrupt cop mind, like Keith and I, that are like, you know, but like once you have a wife that's like, don't you can't say things like that to women anymore because it might make them uncomfortable. Yeah, even if it's kind, it just like worry. Does your parents worry about you ever?

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Honestly, if they do, they don't mention it a ton. Like my dad is so overprotective. I'm his only, you know, daughter. Um, he has a stepdaughter, but I think um being the only girl, he's very um protective over me, which is understandable. Um when it comes to stuff like that. I think it makes them feel a lot better that I'm not on the scene alone.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

You have big cameramen.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

I have, yeah, cameramen that are with me that have been here forever and have been with, you know, tons of younger girls or even women, you know. And I think it's something we have to worry about in this world and you know, stay alert to stay alive. Like it's really a thing. Around here is very, it feels safe being where I'm from, like outside suburbs of the city of Philadelphia. I think maybe it would be different in different areas. And my dad's even said that, like, if you were here, maybe I would be a little bit more worried, which is interesting. And I don't know why that is. However, I think with social media, it's like even if their name and their and their face is there, it's like, how do you know that's actually them and and who these people are? And honestly, um, like I read all my comments and I read um all of this, but I think social media has turned into a lot of work. And it's I love my job. I love work. It's not a bad thing, but I think I pay attention to it less than I did when it wasn't for work, if that makes sense. But it's definitely something that I'm like having in the back of my mind always. And I think just being a young woman, it's just something you think about too. I mean, like when you're walking to your car, you're oh yeah, turned around and who's behind me, and you know, not going out at night and pumping gas by myself, like all of those things. Strength and numbers, hacking heat, mate, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

CCW. Yeah, maybe could be. What no? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

I don't think she knew what you meant by that.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

I don't.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

I love that concealed carry.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

Maybe. Oh no. Oh, she's like, you're saying ever. Yeah, you're saying never.

SPEAKER_04 32:50

We see we were like pro definitely, like protection of all, but I mean, like, also that could be dangerous too, right? Um let's talk about lighter stuff than her getting kidnapped. Yeah, why'd you bring that up? Well, because I listen to murder podcasts, and that's where I'm always like my mind's always like someone's gonna get kidnapped or murdered, something's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Yes, but I don't know. People are so nice here. I feel safe, I feel very safe. Good. Yeah. You shouldn't, which is important.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

You should, but still be diligent. Of course, aware.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Exactly. Can't get too comfortable ever.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

What um came I our our daughter would get embarrassed when her friends would come and pick her up, and I would say, Do I need to talk to you and your friends about sex trafficking again? You'd be going to the mall. She would go, No, please don't. Please don't.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Once is enough.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

Yeah, don't. I'll remind you if I have to.

unknown 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

And well, you know what? Making those conversations not as taboo is like, I think, the biggest part of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

Right. Yeah. And bad guys are different today than they were when we were younger. Our bad guys were in a minivan. Maybe a full-size van. Maybe a full-size van. Could be. And they were like, get in, I got candy. Now it's like a girl your age. Hey, I need help. Come with me. Oh yeah. And that's how they steal your stuff.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

Or a person of like their age and trying to, you know, just meet new people.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

That's the bad guys now.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

It's crazy. It's like, what's the line of it about this? Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Well, it is an important line.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Looking in the windows. Be like, oh yeah, those bad guys in the vans. So there's a small woman that's looking through the window.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

Wait, who's the bad guy?

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Where'd that ladder come from?

SPEAKER_04 34:32

Yeah. So, anyways, do you know from that podcast that the episode that launched about me stalking or not stalking, um, spying on a teacher? Spying on a teacher. I've had multiple teachers message me. And ask if it was them. Asking if I ever spied on them. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Were you honest and you told them yes?

SPEAKER_04 34:51

Were any of them the real ones? No, no, he died. He died last summer. I just I looked him up to send Kami his picture who I used to stalk. And he died in the summer. Dang. But a lot of people knew who he was too. But wow. Okay, Kami, what's some good questions that you have since we're trailing off onto kidnapping Savannah?

SPEAKER_01 35:11

What was it like your first day on the job and like knowing that you're gonna be going live, like you really can't like make a mistake, really? Like, how do you prepare for that? Were you nervous at all?

SPEAKER_00 35:22

I remember being nervous, yes. For the first, I would say maybe month and a half, I was like on trading. So I was going along with Cal Larson and Emily Dean and watching them do it. I remember my first week of going out in the field of watching them was at EAA and Oshkosh. So it was, you know, fun and upbeat, but it's quick. And you're doing a segment and then you're hopping to the next location and the next location. And uh I remember Emily had done a first segment with um Dick Napinski, which is the communications director at EAA, and he's with us all the time. He's amazing. And she's like, hey Dick, would you mind if Savannah just did a practice, you know, live segment with you? And I remember watching Emily's right before that, and she is has always been kind of like someone I've looked up to in this. And it's all the small things, you know, it's it's raining this day, and we're standing under um like a Boeing. I don't even know what type of plane, but it's a huge plane. Yeah. And she's like, she has an umbrella in her hand, she starts the segment off, and she's like, um, you know, it's raining out here. I mean, you could have an umbrella, but you could also stand under a huge plane, you know. She drops the umbrella and she walks up to Dick under the plane. And I was like, I love how humanizing and like she showed her personality while also just making a natural segue. It didn't seem very, you know, cut and dry and interview-like. I just enjoyed those little things of using the surroundings and kind of like thinking on your feet in that way. And that was like such a little moment, but I was like, that's how I want to be. And I think the lack of perfection in that is the best part of it. Like, people want to see people being people. Like, of course, it comes to a degree where you know you want to be professional and you want to be polished and you want to know what you're saying, but that's why anything I go to, I, you know, you do your research and you you know in the back of your head what's going on. And then when you show up, you just you talk to the people and you actually listen. I think a ton of people don't do that these days, but it's actually like taking in the information and I think being actually intrigued helps. But um, I was definitely nervous, but I think every time I did it, I got better at it. And it was one of those things that I knew going into it, I just need to put reps in and I'll be and get better and better because you I can never know exactly what to expect. I can never know if someone's not gonna just walk up behind me and start saying things or oh yeah, those are great bloopers. Oh, yeah, right. Have you never had that happen? I don't think so. I don't think so. And I'm sure maybe there's been people in the background, like whatever, but I don't really I don't notice. But especially talking to like kids or anything, you never know what they're gonna say. So you really have to kind of use your judgment.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

I know those are the best. Like as viewers, those are the best. But I mean, I can I but you have enough leg time, don't you? How long is that leg time?

SPEAKER_03 38:21

I was just gonna ask that.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

Ooh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

So like I have.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Let me think. So from I have an IV in my ear where I hear the show, and that is I think a second or two off. And then, yeah, not that much, but then from us doing it to you know, hitting the tower, then back to Fox 11, it'll air like say 10 seconds after we do it. So my delay from the studio is like one to two seconds. So that's why I stand there like, yeah, yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

We figured that out real quick.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

Yeah, we did. But um then it will air on TV maybe 10 seconds after the fact.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

So there, to my knowledge, I think there's a big red button. Like if someone were to do something very inappropriate or curse or anything like that, um, I think they would kind of pull the pull the plug there. But um, for the most part, I kind of know what to expect because I'm not just like walking through a crowd being like, yeah, I mean the draft, I guess, was an exception, but people were good with that. Oh, good. Um, which is which is nice. But um, but yeah, it's uh it's interesting. But I think that's the issue is I kind of learned show your personality. You know, I kind of looked at it as like, okay, Savannah, you're going on a field trip and you're just bringing people in and you're doing stuff all morning and they're just getting blurps, they're checking in on you on what you're doing at that time. And I think showing who I am is helpful while also getting in the info that we need to. I think I'm also spoiled that I have so many segments. So it's like if you miss something, one segment, or you forget to mention something.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Or sometimes if she likes you, she'll go over her segment over the time.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

I I think I could be better with that. I go over to the city. I'm like, did you go over?

SPEAKER_04 40:07

And you're like, yep. I'm like, oh, I'll I'll get you a drink to go.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Yeah, I'm always like, oh shoot. Like, I do try to keep it in the in the time limits. And you know, some of my producers have even told me, like, yeah, I'll, you know, tell you to wrap early because I know that you're gonna go over.

SPEAKER_04 40:24

Um, do you guys dress up for Halloween, like Ron Burgundy and his crew?

SPEAKER_00 40:28

That's a great question. I didn't. I remember this year being like, I'm so upset I didn't dress up for it. You could I think I did like a Halloween shirt or something.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Yeah, she could be, is it Samantha Corningstone?

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Um I think Veronica Corningstone. Veronica.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Yeah, you could be Veronica.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

I could, but then people would be like, why is she wearing a blazer today? I'm just kidding. We're just both blonde, I think. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Um what does that on-the-job training uh look like? How long did that go for you?

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Um, I remember my news director saying it could be two months, and we'll just kind of see how you do and how things go. I think I was ending, I think I ended up doing a month and a half of it. And at this point it feels like a blur. But I remember going along with the live segments to watch them. I remember um like the other live reporter, Cal, sitting down with me being like, all right, come up with the list of live segment ideas, and then I'll look over it and see like what would be good ideas and what would not be good ideas.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

How did you come up with us for your first when you said you were one of your first live segments? How did you find us?

SPEAKER_00 41:32

A lot of them, like you guys, was Facebook. I just joined tons of groups and I'm like trying to get on the feed of like Wisconsin, right? And I was just scrolling, and I guess you came up on my um feed because I don't think it was in a group. I think it was just on my feed. Okay. And I'm like, ooh, this place sounds intriguing. Um, you know, and I look into it and I'm like, oh my gosh, it used to be a mill and they transformed it. I love that stuff personally. And um I'm like, okay, food, drinks, that oh my god, there's a store in the back. I was like, okay, this is neat. And I try to do things where it's not like I'm not going on the other stations or and trying to just, oh, what did they do and let me do that? Right, right. Which of course there's certain things that in around town or whatever that overlap overlap or they happen all the time, or you know, you realize, oh, that person was there last week and I already booked it for two weeks from now.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

But you kind of look like Ron Burgundy today.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

I was wondering why you were rudely looking at me and not her when she was talking, but that's justifiable.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

The color, I think it matches one of his suits.

SPEAKER_04 42:35

It's so fashionable. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

I mean, she's always it's okay. I look like an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

I look like Ron Burgundy, and you're gonna try to say I look great, but it's okay. No, you always okay. Um whole San Diego application. I guess so. Yeah, we did say those words.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

Jack Lame does not like lame. Um probably gonna probably copyrights here.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

What if that inadvertently like influenced you to become a news reporter? Imagine.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

What if Will Farrell's responsible for you being here? Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

We were kind of hoping that that was the answer. I went.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

My my dad loves that movie. And I remember Anchorman 2 came out and we were way too young, me and my brothers, and like we were like opening night, like got tickets to see in the movie theater. I remember him looking over at one point and being like, Oh, maybe Am I a bad parent? This is not good.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Oh I've been there. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

They're gonna be exposed to it anyway. Might as well be by, you know, people in a safe place. But I think it was just like cursing, like I don't think it was the biggest deal in the world. But you know, when I first kind of started all this, my dad would, you know, make those comments and stuff, but I think it's kind of switched over where it's like now I being his daughter as like a reporter, like that's his first frame of reference as opposed to Anchor Man, it kind of switches over.

SPEAKER_04 43:50

Oh, which I know love that. So you like the historical side of this building in where you're from, there's a lot of history, yeah, cool old buildings.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

There is. And I always really loved that kind of stuff. Like I've always really been into history. I really like the subject in school. And I mean, I'll even watch history videos to like relax or to really go to bed. Or yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

Not like World War II stuff.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Um, I would dabble, really. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

You too. But but in general, like really I uh know so much about World War II, it's not a good one. Really?

SPEAKER_00 44:25

I remember uh I've I've just always been into it. I remember in elementary school we had some sort of like clay museum. What's it a what do they call it? A museum of like, you know, you pretend you're a historical figure. Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

And mine was Anne Frank, and I learned so much about her. And ever since that, I don't know. I just like always been like, it's crazy that these are real people's stories, and like I think it's intriguing and a lot of things too, like random, like the random bits of history, uh, and then also like bigger things like that. And I think it kind of ties back to the it's cool to know about things and to be informed. And I'm so ignorant about so many things, like you know, my photographer will be talking about stuff, movies or historical events or anything, and I'm like, what? And I think it's important to not just like nod alone and to be like, wait, what? Fill me in. Yeah, what's what's going on? And um I don't know. I think it's intriguing, and then you somehow the next moment or the next week, you know, you hear about it like three different times, and you're like, is this always just like around and I didn't notice it? Or is it just something?

SPEAKER_02 45:27

Yeah, it's funny.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

What's your most memorable thing that you reported on?

SPEAKER_04 45:32

Oh, that's yeah. Um is it usually positive things, or do you have some like and then what's your cringiest moment that you can think of?

SPEAKER_00 45:41

It's funny. Okay, wait, I need to think about both those things. Yeah, you can't come. No, it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

I gotta, because I know we're gonna rapid fire at right after.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

So memorable. I yes, I do mostly positive things. I do storm and like breaking news coverage. Um, we have more storms than breaking news around here. Um, so it's not a ton of that. But for the most part, people are happy to see me. People are happy to, you know, have me there and it's planned, which is always a plus because the news to some people can be, you know, a good or a bad thing. So if they're expecting me, that's nice. But I think I really enjoy being places where there are other people, if that makes sense. Like people just there enjoying the sights because I love to bring people there that can't be there. So paying attention, like say it's the draft or say it's EAA, like those are just big things, but like watching how people's eyes light up or certain things, or they kind of gravitate towards certain things, or oh my gosh, this line has been growing for the last 10 minutes and now it's all the way back there. Like I love being able to observe and then bring people there that can't be there because I think I don't know how many of these things I would go to if it wasn't my job. Like everyone's busy and they have things going on, and it's like, how much can you really fit in? Or it's like even being here when it's open, you know, and and people are walking in and doing things and being able to observe, oh, that person seems to just come and drink their coffee and read the newspaper, or that person seems to, you know, get their stuff to go, but you guys know exactly who they are when they walk in and know what they want, or you're asking about, you know, their daughter's husband or anything like that, like just witnessing community. So I don't know if there's like a specific segment, but like whenever people are there and witnessing the connections that people have with each other, I think is really neat. And like trying to bring people there because I think that's a testament to being good at my job. If I can make people feel like they're there or they like feel included in like whatever I'm doing, even though they're not there. And like I might not specifically be talking to Nicole, you at home. Right.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

But at the point you should say that next time you're next time you're alive.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

Yeah, right. And what was the second half of the question? The cringiest. Um, I cringe at myself a lot, I think. I like say something in a certain way, and I'm like, oh, for half a second, and I'm like, no one cares. No one's paying attention, or no one's judging me as much as I think. Like no one's paying attention to my flaws.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

Nobody's cringing you as much as you are.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Yeah, I'm saying, so mature.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

I remember we were surprised with we asked this.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Isn't she mature? Yes, yeah, thank you. Everybody isn't she? No, but like just like that response. Um, but like that response alone is a very mature response. Nobody cares. You know what I mean? Like when you were saying you're cringed about yourself, but that takes years to build that confidence of like nobody really cares. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

I think also it's like there's so many opportunities to embarrass myself, and I don't honestly, I can't think of the last time I was embarrassed by anything.

SPEAKER_03 48:43

Like good for you, because I think I think I should try to get more embarrassed because it's it is like a great, it's a great feeling to have.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Oh, yeah. And I wanted I think I do tons of, I think I do embarrassing things maybe. Maybe other people watch and they're like, oh, it's embarrassing. All alive. Whatever. But like, I don't know. I think it's all a perspective, and like I am who I am, and like I'm proud to be who I am, and I'm constantly working to be better and be a better version of myself. And I think sure there were times in my life when like, you know, oh, I tripped and fell, and everybody's watching me or whatever. But whenever I see someone trip and fall, I'm like, oh, I feel so bad. Like, no one's paying attention, everyone's paying attention to themselves. Right. Everyone's so concerned with themselves, and people are selfish. That's just kind of how the world works. And I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, I think it's human nature. Not to say people don't care about other people, but like, no, you're right. I don't think people notice. I I think they are really focused on themselves or how things make them feel.

SPEAKER_04 49:44

No, you're right. That's a very mature response. I don't know. She's pretty polished, isn't she? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Yeah, it sucks.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

One of the first things my boyfriend said to me, he's like, You speak so eloquently. How do you speak like that? How did you and your boyfriend meet? Oh my god, you ready for this story? Yes. We were in the Philadelphia airport. Stop it. We're waiting for a flight to Milwaukee. It was his first time in Wisconsin. He was coming for Summerfest, actually.

SPEAKER_04 50:10

So you didn't know each other before the airport. Okay, love this.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

We're standing there. My best friend actually just got engaged on FaceTime. You're in the airport. She's like, look at my ring. Her and her now husband or now fiance have been together like coming up on 11 years since like we were in middle school, which is nuts. But I remember being like, oh my god, it's so exciting. And then I look up, I'm like, my fleet was supposed to be boarding right now. What's going on? So there's this girl next to me, and of course, like being who I am, I'm like, hey, are you on this flight? What's happening? You know, what's going on? I was like, I don't know, let's walk up to the counter. So we do, we walk up there, we turn around, and we see um a group of like three men. There was like two older men, maybe in their like late 50s, early 60s, and then this really handsome man standing there as well that kind of looked around my age, but I wasn't sure. Walk up there. I'm like, are any of you on this flight? What's happening? And that was genuinely my intention of going up there. The girl was next to me. I didn't know the girl. Sure it was. I didn't know the girl. And um, they're all like, yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen I don't know what's happening. And as this is happening, he's pulling out gum and he's getting a piece for himself. He offers me a piece, and then he offers the two other guys a piece. So I'm like, I can't tell if he's like flirting with me or not, but I'm not the biggest gum fan. But I said, yes, of course. I'm like, I want to get to know him because immediately I was like, I feel comfortable. Like, what's happening? Yes, and I was immediately like comfortable, like in a weird way, even though, as we talked about earlier, being a woman, you're always like on guard and like what's happening and whatever else. So he offered me the piece of gum. I said yes, and we talked the entire time. You know, we're standing up against the wall at that point, and I had like noticed him well by earlier, but he was out of the corner of my eye and I wasn't really paying attention. But I was like, it's cool that that person's just like talking to these people he clearly doesn't know about things. Like it's like you, it's kind of like me. And I was just, I guess I was just I was impressed by that. And then I walk up to him and I saw his face for the first time. I was like, oh my gosh, he's kind of my age, like, but you never know with who's if someone's dating someone or whatever else. So we're talking and then we realize it's we're boring now. I'm like, oh my gosh, how much time has gone by? We walk out to the plane, he's carrying my luggage or whatever. He's carrying yours. He's like, let's you have a hood, let's put up our hood and our sunglasses. We're walking out to the plane, like we feel like we're famous, like it's so cool. And uh, as we're walking out of the plane, it's like two seats on each side, very tiny, too. Milwaukee. Yeah, and uh, we're like, we have to sit next to each other. I think we were a couple rows apart. And this guy was like, Do you guys want to sit next to each other? I'm like, how did he know that we weren't together, but that we wanted to be together? Stop so someone else was observed. I mean, we were the only two people in the in the airport to me. Like, I wasn't paying attention to anybody. So maybe people were noticing, I don't know. So we sit next to each other on that plane, and immediately, like everything we talked about, I was like, oh my gosh, this like he's gonna be my boyfriend, like for sure. And like I feel like it's gonna be my husband. Like, I know it sounds dramatic, but like something just immediately, I was like, I've never met anyone like this, and I've never felt like this comfortable or like I connected with anybody like this, and not to be like this, but I connect with a lot, like I talk to a lot of people, I feel like comfortable with a lot of people, but it was a different, yep, it was a different way, it was a whole whole different way. And then we landed, and we have been talking and dating, you know, ever since then, which is crazy. So he is from Philadelphia, but he could have been he could have been from anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 53:33

Why was he? Yeah, that's that's awesome. And why was he going to Wisconsin again? His college roommate lives here from here.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 53:43

And they were he had an extra ticket to Summerfest, and he had tickets for both weekends, but he just happened to be going to the weekends. And you were coming here? I was coming back after a family vacation. We went down the shore, we went to the Outer Banks in North Carolina, and that was my second time going home ever, and I had been living here a year at that point.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

How far away does he live from you from your parents?

SPEAKER_00 54:07

Yeah, like an hour.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

Gosh man. I know, which is just crazy. It's like actually crazy. How long have you guys been together?

SPEAKER_00 54:19

Over seven over the seven months, around there, seven to eight. That's so great.

SPEAKER_03 54:29

It's so weird what you kids do nowadays.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

I know. We like FaceTime dated for like months and months, and then he came Labor Day weekend, and that was like our first weekend together.

SPEAKER_04 54:38

Old school way of dating, though. That's not how kids do it now. Kids do it on the Snapchats and stuff. That's how they date.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

Oh no, you're talking for a little while. Oh. And then you're dating. There's like levels.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Oh, yeah. We were basically dating when we met. Like we were like exclusive to each other.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

We want to say talking. I know you want to.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Well, we couldn't start dating the second we met each other. I guess. You can't start dating just off the plane.

unknown 55:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:03

Yeah. Because then we were going back and then we were like, we're gonna, and we talked, we're like, we're, you know, if this weekend goes well, and four I remember it was 49 days, like until we saw each other. We're like, like we always were very honest about like what we wanted and that we, you know, if everything went the way we thought it was gonna go, that we would be, you know, together officially.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

But it's a great story.

SPEAKER_00 55:22

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

Do you still have the gum wrapper?

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Um, not the rapper, not the rapper, but when we were on the plane, we were in a we were flying American. We were flying American. Yeah. Yeah, right. Um, we flew American Airlines and you know, they give those like Biscuff cookies. And those are good.

SPEAKER_04 55:42

They're so good.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

And now whenever I see them, I think of him because we asked, you know, they gave us each one and we're like, can we have another one? And we wrote on there, like we both signed it and wrote like so for your wedding on there. Those are the tables. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yep. I have the Biscuff cookie wrapper. I do have that. I love this scrapbook though. I'm kind of a grandma, like all my hobbies.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

I love, I feel like you're an old soul, but you should write to America Airline and let them know about the love story that happened. Yeah. And then maybe they'll do something.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Um, possibly. I it's every time I say it or think it, I'm like, this is like it's one of them are gonna watch this and they're gonna they're gonna know.

SPEAKER_04 56:21

Hashtag America Airline. Yeah, okay. This cough cookies for life. Yeah, something. I bet you they would do he just has COVID. It's no big deal. Coming off the COVID 26. I love old school stories. I always think about, and I feel like the new generation, and that's you, you fall into that. They're ripped off of the really cool grandpa and grandma stories of how you met. Yeah, I mean, they're not always cool because it was like one room schoolhouse, right? But like stuff like that. Now it's all not all, but a lot of snap, yeah, chat, or whatever the kids do, like online meeting. I don't know how to meet people online. Yeah, I'm not asking. I'm married, but like not interested, however, not interested, but like it just seems like a scary. So that's like a yeah, that's like a cool story to tell your grandkids one day.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

I think so. And I think also it's like there are not many, I don't know anyone like him. And I think that's also a big thing. Like a lot of people aren't interested in finding something like that, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

Or, you know, they're which nothing wrong with going out and partying and whatever, but like you have to think about what you want your partner to be, you know, and we're both so into, you know, fitness, and you know, we were together and we rode bikes like a million different times, and I'm like, I'm so grateful that we enjoy the same things and that we're so aligned in that way. But I think a lot of people are expecting to maybe find people in ways that they don't want the people to be that way, yes, or they try to, you know, change you know the person.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

Meeting someone at a club raging.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Well, you have to expect that they're gonna not gonna do that. Like that's how you met them. Like that's who they are, which is fine. I mean, if you want someone like that, and if people, you know, enjoy that, but it's like I mean, we've talked about that. We're like, you can't expect, you know, to fall into that way and then be like, okay, so now you're gonna be a totally different person and change. Like, I think we've both grown a lot, and we both said, like, we've never been so successful at work and so great in our like family and friendships, and you know, the right person will make you like better in all of those areas too. I agree, which is pretty neat.

SPEAKER_01 58:45

Yeah, I was just gonna comment like you are very wise beyond your ears.

SPEAKER_04 58:51

Shh, yeah, come on.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

That was a good comment. Now it's just a say.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Sorry, cut that off.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

I think we've had the same thing. I might have gotten you sick, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 59:00

Yeah, I might have got it from the brewer game because Andy had it too. That's how it's the time of year, too.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

I think everybody the weather being we were talking about hot as heck one day and then freezing the next, it doesn't help. No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Back to my comment. You're wise beyond your years.

unknown 59:16

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

Can you let her talk to her?

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Give me the compliment one more time, please.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

Yeah, you are wise beyond your years. Which, okay, I don't know how to ask this, and this does not have to go in here. But have you gone through like a tough time in your life before? Like that may have you got wisdom from, or were you just born like this?

SPEAKER_00 59:39

That's a good question. I don't know. I think everybody goes through things, right? I thought the same thing. My parents divorced, maybe that could have been part of it, but I think that happens to a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

I'm like, either she doesn't have a memory of her youth because it was so bad she suppressed it, or it was so good there was no bumblebee stinging her or diapers going down the driveway. Yeah, or things like that other guests have said, like, or it was so like pretty good that there nothing stood out that was traumatic. Yeah, or it was so bad that you just like buried it. I imagine that we're speculating all this stuff about you. I love it. Continue. This is how rumors get started.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

It's out of my head when you said that uh you like don't have a whole lot of like firm memories. Yeah, I think that you just have talked to so many people in a short amount of time that there's I mean, there's only so much room, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

Yeah, and I think unfortunately, I struggle with not having the best memory in general, and that's something that I like really dislike about myself. Recent memory, I'm pretty good with with that, but I wish I did remember more because my parents um were like are they are great presently, not just in the past, but like I really think a lot of the ways they raised me and my brothers is so sh like shaping. I mean, it shaped me in such a way where they were hand-off enough that I learned to be and live on my own and be who I am, but there if I were to need them. And I think it was never, you know, giving me the toy when I'm crying in the store type of thing, all the way to whenever my mom or my dad was cooking, it's you're standing on the chair and you're watching and you're helping me. And I think it's those types of things where I think they raised us to be good functioning members of society and good humans and not just to be their kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:38

Yeah, no, I I we totally align with that society style.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

I think like spreading, they want you to spread your wings and and to go, and like you, your job is done well if maybe they do do that, which telling them that I had to move, I was like, I know they're gonna be supportive, but it breaks my heart to have to like tell them that because I know like in a weird way, like they love me so much and they don't want me to do that, but I know that they couldn't have been prouder. Yeah, yeah, of like what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:08

And I had a friend that um their son's leaving for basic training. I still have them as friends, but I had a friend in this past weekend, Sam Roberts, and I said, Are you sad that their son's going to basic training? Because it's scary. It's like you all the people, he's like, No, I'm not. He's like, That's our jobs. He's like, You raise your kids, you teach them right, and you let them go. He goes, I'm all about letting go. He's like, and I don't mean that in a cold way. Like, I mean that, like, this is what happened, this is what's supposed to happen. He's like, I'd be more worried if they weren't leaving. And I'm like, that is a really healthy response. Like, our jobs are not to make as parents, is not to make it so comfortable at home that you don't want to leave. Like, you almost there's a time when you're like, okay, you know, like get uncomfortable. Yeah, get get like it has to get hard.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

I think so. And I think you grow in those spaces where you're not comfortable. Yep. And it's important to put yourself in those situations if you want to like grow and you know, prosper and everything in between. Because if you're always comfortable, what are you really learning, either just in the in the world in general or about yourself too? Right. Like I've learned so much about myself in the last, you know, five or so years, where I think it's these experiences that you need to be a part of and not plan for and not know what's gonna happen next, and just kind of have trust in yourself that it'll all work out. Because you're doing what you can.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:35

The the best stories you hear from people's lives are always the hard. The hard or the difficult or the unknown. You never hear like, well, it was really great, you know, like everything was comfortable. Like, those are the boring people we don't want on to talk about. You know, like you everyone has this, everyone has a story. Yeah, just some people's are more interesting or in yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:56

Some people I haven't quite figured out yet why people are afraid to talk about it. Like they like to want to talk about what? Like the hard things that they've endured. You know, you know, those people like that are like, no, no, no, I don't want to talk about that. I only want to talk about the good stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

Like, which is I guess kind of in a sense human nature, but you you don't understand that that people don't want to talk about trauma?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

Well, like trauma, but like like shut up, Ron.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:26

Like that's the stuff that's not sunshine and butterflies, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:30

I think uh I think wait go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:33

Do you know what I'm trying to say?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

Yeah, I know what you're saying now, but it sounds like it for the listeners, he doesn't mean like this is talk about. Like there's certain trauma that you don't want to talk about because it it some things hurt too much to talk about, right? But the hard of what the hard of like um our example, like how hard it was to open the doors here, right? Financial hardships and right, not being home and not being able to do things.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

And I understand like ego and pride.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:03

Because it is hard, it is hard to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:05

It's just I don't know. At some point you gotta feel like confident and comfortable enough to be okay talking about it. Yeah, but um sometimes it takes people a little bit longer, maybe maybe maybe it takes Ron.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Ron pulling it out of them. Um you look great for the record. I think she's more fashionable than I could ever be. We need I need a stylist. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:29

She has a that's a handmade tie thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:31

Yeah, Justine made the cute. So she got a whole bunch of ties from an old man. Well, I don't know if she knows who the old man is, but the lady man. Yeah, a lady gave her these, and some lady dropped off in the boutique. She's like, Your girl Justine wants to do something with these. I'm like, Okay, I have actually side note my grandpa's bow ties in a shadow box, all pinned for decor. It's it's cool, but like he also I never seen him wear a bow tie in his life. But when he passed away, my grandma was very trendy. And he had like a bow tie to match everything. Like, and so I'm like, instead of throwing these away, because he was like a guy that was out in the woods. Okay. Grandpa, not a bow tie grandpa. Um, so I'm like, oh, maybe she's gonna do some cool decor. And I am obsessed. She has like so many different ties, and and I'm not I we are selling these, but this isn't like a sales pitch, but different like brooches on them, and I guess they're popular in the south. And I was gonna wear a jean vest with it, but I couldn't button it by my bersiers. So I was busting out with this, and then so I was like showing a customer this. I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna put this one on today. So it was a last minute thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

It looks great.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:40

Things are always the best.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:41

Yeah, I had a I was filling in in the boutique back there. Everybody loves it when I'm filling in in the back. But I had a lady bring one of those up to the register and I'm like holding it up.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:53

Did she buy it?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:53

Yeah, yes, and I'm like, this is probably the worst sales pitch of all time, but where do you put this on your body? And she laughed. She it was an older, older group of ladies, and they were so much.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:07

I'm so happy that she sold one.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

And um uh she's like, we have less places to hang them than you do, Mike.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:14

Oh, I know my group, I knew an old group of ladies now.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:16

Yeah, sassy lady, but I like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

Um I know this is like our interview with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:29

You're fine. I always ask, a good interviewer always asks at the end, you know? Like, you're just like, is there anything I didn't ask you? Yeah, when they say no, it means you're a good interviewer.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:38

She's like, I just need to go home and dad.

unknown 1:07:40

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:40

No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Savannah, do you have anything else? I appreciate you coming on.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:44

Thank you for having me. It was nice to chat when we're not on a time limit, yeah. You know, of where we need to be or what we need to do.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:51

Yeah, but um, it was great talking to you. Yeah, thank you for your time. I know it's precious. All right, we will see you next Tuesday. Bye. Bye. Help me freely walk in your heart.