Our Liver Friend, Andy

A lot of you know the story of our friend, Andy. He received a life-changing liver donation back in October from an amazing woman named Mandy (She'll be on an upcoming episode soon).

Andy and NiCole have been friends since high school, so this episode dives deep into the past. You'll also discover in this episode that we are definitely not medical experts, so take what we say... lightly (don't come after us, UW-Health).

Also, ladies, be on the lookout for when NiCole gets really mad at Keith later in the episode. You'll learn something in between all the bleeps.

With that said... grab a coffee, pull up a chair, and get to know our good friend, Andy.
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Check out the story Fox 11 did on Andy and Mandy HERE.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

But anyways, um, so I want to just highlight my outfit right now because I wore it for Andy, which you shouldn't dress up for another man as a married woman. You horror look at me, look at what I'm wearing. I'm such a hussy. But side story, and I wanted his reaction, and it would have been better if he was sitting up here and you would have got it. Got got it. Got it. I'm from I don't know where Wisconsin. Not Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_07 0:35

Um, if you would have had like an organic response, but anyways, you you caught me with you were halfway in between telling me, do you like my and then you're like, hey, this lady, she's a draft. I cut myself off. I was like, what?

SPEAKER_01 0:49

What's happening? So I would show up at the mail because Andy would come and help renovate. And I'm not a dude, surprise. I'm not, I'm a woman. I don't have a lot of work pants. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't like they he has he has more old jeans, and I bet you you do too, than good ones. So when I I got these to do like gardening when it's not, and like I actually would wear them. So if I would come here to help, I would put these on. And so he would pick on me. He'd come and he'd say, Oh, she's got those pants on.

SPEAKER_09 1:21

That means she's ready to work. She's actually gonna work. She's actually she's not gonna stay in here and and like but lo and behold, it would be a solid 10 or 15 minutes of work, and then she delegates.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Can I tell you why though? Because I'm a distraction, because I'm fun. So when I would come, she's a woman. Okay, I no, when I I'm not joking.

SPEAKER_05 1:40

I'm a woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

When I would come and it would you guys would all want to hang out with me and talk and have fun, and not no work would get done, or there'd be stuff I couldn't do, like I can't hang a picture straight. So I was like, my I don't need to sit here, like this is not my area. I just have to make sure you guys are working. That is why I would leave, is because you know work would not in half the time I would walk in. If you guys want to know why it took three years to renovate, it's because these guys would be sitting around jawjacking the whole time. So you weren't fully the distraction.

SPEAKER_09 2:11

Heaven forbid the union takes a break.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

I wasn't the full distract. Thanks, Cammy.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

I wasn't the full distraction, but also can we quick pause? I feel like we have like a telephone outfit. Like you guys have matching hats, we have matching shirts, you have matching pants.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_09 2:28

We went to the same pants store.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Oh my gosh, we do. You'll have to take a picture of yourself in the same shirt store. Wait, it's gonna look better if I take it.

SPEAKER_09 2:39

Danny's like, where did you get your pants from? I'm like, I don't know. Wherever Trixie got them from. Whatever my mom bought me. You think you think I buy my own clothes? I'm like, wait a minute. I did. I bought some, I bought a shirt and a hoodie from Tractor Supply.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

You did that that shirt you have on is from Tractor Supply.

SPEAKER_09 2:56

This one is?

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Yep. It's a good tractor supply has really good clothes. Okay, so enough about everything but Andy. I just wanted to talk about my outfit. If you guys are wondering why I have like great outfits, dirty bibs because I work so hard in them. That's why.

SPEAKER_07 3:14

Do you have a story for every stain on there? No, but I'm sure you do. Did you buy them like that?

SPEAKER_01 3:18

No. I could tell you what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_09 3:21

She bought the work.

SPEAKER_07 3:23

Why are you rolling around on the garage floor? I gotta wear these.

SPEAKER_09 3:26

I gotta get I gotta make them look like I did something in them.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Okay, really? So cool.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

Anyways, you are feeling close.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Hi.

SPEAKER_09 4:01

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Welcome to Beans and Banter.

SPEAKER_09 4:03

My name's I think we already started.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

My name is Nicole Fisher, and this is my husband, Keith Fisher. Um, our guest today.

SPEAKER_09 4:10

This is my friend, Andy Trapp.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

He was my friend first. This is gonna be kind of a fun episode if you know Andy and us, or if you want to know what it's like to be our friend, or if you want to know what it's like to be my friend in the past, which was a different time. Or if you want to know what it's like to steal someone's friend. Keith. So Andy and I, um, Andy and I, when did we Andy, when did we become friends? Do you recall?

SPEAKER_09 4:39

Shh. It was um, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

I want to hear Andy's take on this. Like, when did we start become like so we go to Man, we went to Manow, it's a small school. Everyone knows everybody, but when did we actually start being friends?

SPEAKER_07 4:57

When were you friends with Nikki or uh Lindsay?

SPEAKER_01 4:59

I was friends with Lindsay from the beginning of time when she moved.

SPEAKER_07 5:03

When did she come here?

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Um, it was like summer of 96. For real? For real. Oh like well, either 96 or 97, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_07 5:15

I would say the eighth or freshman year, probably maybe like good friends.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

So what I remember about Andy is in biology. I used to copy off your biology.

SPEAKER_07 5:30

And I want you what a huge mistake.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

And but do you know the sad thing is? No, the sad thing is it was my second time taking biology, and he was underclassman, and I was like copying off you, and you're like, I didn't tell you I was, and then you caught on I was, and you're like, Yeah, move the paper, like so you could see it, I could see it better. But I liked your socks. You always had really like different socks on.

SPEAKER_07 5:59

Did I?

SPEAKER_01 6:00

What do you have on today?

SPEAKER_07 6:02

Times have changed. Nothing cool. I'm a dad now.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Okay, um, so we go way back. Andy and I and Lindsay, did Stacy live with us in that place?

SPEAKER_07 6:14

Kinda, she was there a lot, but she never paid any rent.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

So I don't we live together at a time.

SPEAKER_09 6:21

Can we take a break for just one second and stop talking? You have lip stain on your oh right down here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

Also, I'd like to code. You're a peeping tom in homes and textbooks. Tests and tests, you peep tom. You're a peeping tom at test.

SPEAKER_09 6:43

Did you like my response?

SPEAKER_01 6:48

What response? No, that was K. That was Tit K. Never mind.

SPEAKER_09 6:52

Different group message. So stupid.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

I liked your response in the clip. Oh, oh yeah, there's some lip stain. Wait, so what was your response? For what?

SPEAKER_09 7:04

Uh this lady was asking about this lady was asking if there was some flooding in town today. Thanks for telling me that. Yeah, it would look ridiculous the entire time. I didn't, and I didn't want to do it while we were talking because then you'd get mad at me.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Well, because he'll pick at me when I'm talking sometimes, like because I'm usually a hot mess and he'll like correct things, and I'm like, it's distracting. Let me finish and then correct. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 7:26

So I'll wait until she's done and then I'll That's nice.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 7:30

You think you didn't have like a pussy willow branch and be like, so this lady asked if there was flooding in town, and then I went and looked, and I'm like, I don't think there's it was at a building right over here.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

It is flooded.

SPEAKER_09 7:43

Yeah, turns out it like bad, but it looks like water just went right past it. I'm like, there's nothing. It's a ship shape, good chief should be fine.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Good chief of place.

SPEAKER_09 7:51

And then she's like, Oh, the the brick or the stone looks wet on the bottom of the building. I'm like, Yeah, might be it's still raining, like could be from that. I'm like, you want if you want, I'll go back and I'll look into the windows and pretend I'm Trixie in middle school if you'd like. Never you never peeping Tom?

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Did you?

SPEAKER_09 8:15

You did? Bet you betcha it's a man o'a thing. Bunch of bunch of creeps.

SPEAKER_07 8:21

There ain't much to do over there.

SPEAKER_09 8:22

Just uh just breeding ground of creeps over there. Did you go?

SPEAKER_07 8:27

Did you? I think during like homecoming when you toilet paper, yeah. Do they even know?

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Do they even know they just yeah, homecoming I feel like is a is a like a free-for-all.

SPEAKER_07 8:37

Yeah, that's the gate, that's the gateway. And then it escalates from there.

SPEAKER_09 8:42

A friend of mine, it I think we're in like middle school during homecoming. We would we would sneak out of his house because he had a one of those fancy houses with a finished basement, and there's windows in the basement, like night, like big ones, nice ones, and we would camp out down there, and then as soon as everybody would go to sleep, we'd sneak out of the house, and we wouldn't like go look in anybody's windows, but we'd boil the paper their house.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

He's so superior to us.

SPEAKER_09 9:12

Well, I mean, there's a line and you crossed it between fun shenanigans and a little creepy.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Well, okay, anyways, Andy. Let's let's start. Why don't you throw a question at Andy?

SPEAKER_09 9:29

Randy.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

So he calls him Randy Math because did someone act thought your name was Randy Math? His name's Andy Drath.

SPEAKER_07 9:38

Where did that even come from? I don't know how that worked. We were we were running track, and he Russell Holman, the biology teacher. Yes, I was just gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Um he was a great teacher, drill sergeant, army drill sergeant.

SPEAKER_07 9:52

Oh, so nice.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Ten points off, one demerit.

SPEAKER_07 9:55

Sit down, sit down when he'd be mad so mad and would just start growing in his head, and all of a sudden it starts throbbing. I'm like, ooh, this doesn't look safe.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

He was the nicest guy, but would lose his on you if like if it's rightly so, like it was always wrong. I killed his goldfish in seventh grade. Remember his fish tank in the new middle. I didn't I I don't ever want to kill an animal, but that one deserved it. Yep.

SPEAKER_09 10:21

And if Lindsay Yeah, I didn't I like how you just skip right past this. Like, I'm not gonna circle back to it. We no it on the code.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

How I killed him is I dumped all of his fish food in there. And Lindsay will be mad if I don't mention this. Lindsay, I know you're l listening. Some she's not some farm, some and I liked this teacher. I loved Mr. Homan, but some farm kid had manure tracks through the lab. And I took some of the dried manure and put it in his coffee.

SPEAKER_07 10:56

But just to see if he'd notice.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

He didn't what? But also Lindsay to take this off of me. Let's take this off for me for a second. Lindsay pulled the shower in the um lab.

SPEAKER_07 11:11

Like the rinse?

SPEAKER_01 11:12

The rinse, all the yes, that is not worse.

SPEAKER_09 11:15

It's not the coffee is definitely worse, but and that's like I think about this once in a while.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

The fish over like overfeeding and killing him. He loved his fish tank. So I think about this. I feel like I'm talking loud. I think about this often, and I'm like, why would I do that? And also, why would I put manure in his coffee? Because I like I liked Mr. Homan.

SPEAKER_09 11:35

You're a bully. That's why. Just a curious cat.

SPEAKER_04 11:39

So just to clarify, quick, this is not the Lindsay that has been on this show. This is a different Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

No, can you imagine Lindsay Johnson doing that?

SPEAKER_09 11:46

No, no, that's why just clarifying.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

This Lindsay said she will come.

SPEAKER_09 11:51

Good job, because she would probably want it to clarify.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Yeah, she would. This Lindsay was the one that lived with Andy and I. Well, we all live together, and she said she'll come on and she'll be great, but she has to wait for her tenure from UW Oshgosh. Because she said she just doesn't want to get in trouble with anything she says.

SPEAKER_09 12:10

Oh, well, good thing. Good thing you're leaving out the bad parts.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Oh, she pulled the shower. She's put manure in coffee. She spied on people. She sold meth.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Maybe you should make a new drink called cowpie for this episode.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. Kimmy, that's a good idea. Sorry, Mr. Holman.

SPEAKER_09 12:33

Do you think he's still around? Oh yeah. Do you think he's he was in charge of the damager?

SPEAKER_01 12:37

He was in charge of the manowa. He was in charge of the manowa dam until he wasn't, and then it it it broke.

SPEAKER_07 12:44

Yep, that was two years ago.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

But he wasn't in charge of the dam then, was he?

SPEAKER_07 12:48

No, there's like I think there's a bunch of people with keys and nobody was around to open it.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_07 12:53

So they're like, uh rainstorm. We need to get were they open?

SPEAKER_09 12:56

Were they more prepared this time yesterday?

SPEAKER_07 12:59

I don't think I don't think it's a funny joke.

SPEAKER_09 13:01

They're all parked all over the place. There's no dam.

SPEAKER_07 13:04

No, but it's flowing. It's like is it up to the top of the dam when I came through?

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Really?

SPEAKER_07 13:09

But is there milled it?

SPEAKER_01 13:11

The mill the mill pond's almost back.

SPEAKER_07 13:14

Well, I mean today, because it's like twice as wide as it should be.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

So if you don't know the manowa mill pond, it's kind of a big deal for manowa. But the saddest part that the dam went out was 4th of July weekend, and that's like the the time of Manoa.

SPEAKER_07 13:30

Rodeo. The rodeo.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

All of the cowboys were in town, like ready to rodeo it up, and then they had to shut down.

SPEAKER_09 13:36

All the couple girls were too.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

And think of all the businesses that like live on that.

SPEAKER_07 13:43

Oh, yeah, because like drove by from work and all the camping was like flooded, and there was cars, you could just see their mirrors, everything below is gone.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

It was it was very sad, tragic. Okay, so Randy Math. Let's get back to Mr. Homan.

SPEAKER_07 14:00

I I don't know if he he probably had a written-down copy, but he must have like radioed it in my name, and that's the way they wrote it down.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Or I don't know how he's funny like that though, because he called me Nikki Joe. My name's not Nikki Joe, so he probably did that intentionally.

SPEAKER_07 14:17

It could be, but wouldn't they were calling me the starting line? Would this they said would Randy Math just get over there so we can get on with the show here? Let's go.

SPEAKER_09 14:26

And then also I'm like, wait a second, connecting the dots.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

I'm Randy Math.

SPEAKER_09 14:33

Hi, I'm Iron. We've been little today, no. We've been waiting for Randy Matt this whole time.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

His name's Andy Giraffe. So that's probably something that um Mr. Holman did intentionally to be funny. Thinking about it now, yeah. Think about the nicknames he gave kids in class. Yeah, anybody else? I feel like he always had a nickname.

SPEAKER_07 14:52

I don't remember any offhand, but he was pretty creative though.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

He was funny. Okay, Keith, do you have a question for Randy? That's how we get veered off of that. Oh, this is gonna be just an interesting episode.

SPEAKER_09 15:05

Keep up when he comes back, right? We're probably not gonna talk about anything, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

We will we'll talk, we'll have some good. I just we're at the do the build up. We don't have to, we have to talk about how we know him.

SPEAKER_09 15:16

We can just talk about fun stuff too. Randy, do you believe in aliens?

SPEAKER_07 15:27

I knew you were gonna ask me some weird questions. I wasn't ready for this one.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

You don't watch our podcasts. What kind of friend are you?

SPEAKER_07 15:34

What do you mean I don't?

SPEAKER_01 15:35

All that time at UW Health, sitting there in the hospital room.

SPEAKER_07 15:40

I got time to watch podcasts.

SPEAKER_09 15:41

He's too busy watching Motor Trend.

SPEAKER_07 15:45

No, that's what I usually do. Watch podcasts at the hospital? Yeah, once a week. Not donor that off. March march you are, march you were.

SPEAKER_09 15:58

Pretty close. Do you believe in in aliens? Do you think do you think they're around?

SPEAKER_07 16:04

Yeah, there's something out there.

SPEAKER_09 16:06

Do you think you've do you think you've ever reigned into one and not own it?

SPEAKER_07 16:12

I mean, I just think of like men in black where they're like just walking the earth, be like, huh. That guy don't look right.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

And then they make you forget by that little zap thing behind your ear.

SPEAKER_09 16:25

Well, I went to the brewer game without you this time. We went two weeks ago, but I brought my dad.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

The last time we got Andy sick.

SPEAKER_09 16:33

Yeah, or he was hospitalized. Or maybe Andy and I'm like somebody got Andy and I sick.

unknown 16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Our kids all had strep, and then Andy ended up in the hospital because he had his, we'll talk about his liver. He has a new baby liver. It acted up and he got sent back to UW because he got sick. And I said to Keith when he said he was going with Andy and his girls, I'm like, I don't think it's a good idea. Because Knox was just sick with strep.

SPEAKER_09 16:58

Well, it turned out he didn't get strep.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

He got RSB.

SPEAKER_09 17:04

I think worse, yeah. Maybe the vid torque.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Was it COVID too? Did you just get a little cocktail of every respiratory?

SPEAKER_07 17:15

Um started.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Were you were you licking chairs at the brewery game?

SPEAKER_09 17:19

We're making out with everybody.

SPEAKER_06 17:22

That kiss cam never left.

SPEAKER_09 17:24

I actually said I'm like, did we eat at the same place? We're trying to figure it out after. But couldn't couldn't think of it. There's probably somebody sneezing at our food.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Okay, so at the brewer game, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 17:38

At the brewer game, I was looking around doing some people watching, and I'm like, there's definitely some aliens in here.

SPEAKER_08 17:44

Why would they get a weird look at the brewery game though? I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 17:47

You know, just to pretend like they're real people. Just trying to mingle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 17:53

So people do in Milwaukee. Go to brewer games. Yeah, there's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

Like weird looking or like weird. Just off. He didn't tell me this, so I'm intrigued.

SPEAKER_09 18:04

I almost messaged you something to that effect.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Like there's some aliens here. There's some man. Like I need more than that.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

I need weird, weird looking people out there.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Just the way they look.

SPEAKER_09 18:16

You know who you are.

SPEAKER_07 18:20

I just think of that guy that's. And I'm weird, so he has like bone and mentality.

SPEAKER_09 18:25

I'm telling you, you're weird.

SPEAKER_07 18:26

Like that's like his bones are too big for his body, so he's like walking around. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 18:31

Oh, I mean in black like the guy, sugar water. His necks like bulging out.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Sugar water.

SPEAKER_07 18:40

I need sugar water. You followed him up to the concession stand, didn't you?

SPEAKER_09 18:45

I was keeping an eye on him for sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

I have a question for Andy.

SPEAKER_09 18:49

Yeah, let's hear your questions.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

If you had the opportunity to had have any old car that you've drew like dreamt of, in whatever condition, if it's like you want it, Andy likes to fix up cars. If it was like the perfect condition that you were like, I'm still able to able to tinker on it a little bit, whatever you want. But if you get that car, you have to leave and go to outer space for a week.

SPEAKER_09 19:24

It's just getting ridiculous though.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

And miss out and everything. This is actually kind of dumb.

SPEAKER_05 19:31

You're just rambling.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

No, this is this is actually kind of dumb because you take a week vacation to UWL, like all this.

SPEAKER_07 19:40

I pack my bags, my swim trucks, my head out to UW.

SPEAKER_09 19:44

Like a nice little vacation. That's what we always say. I'm like, how's your vacation?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

I'm gonna I'm gonna up it. Yeah, I'm gonna up it. I'm gonna do a month. You would miss out a month of good time with your girls growing up. You can't pick what month it is. It can't be like a month with no birthdays. It might fall on a birthday month of your girls, it might fall on an anniversary with Marissa. I call his wife Marissa.

SPEAKER_09 20:09

Her name's Michelle.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Her name's Michelle. But it might, I'm Mr. Holman. I give people nicknames.

SPEAKER_09 20:14

Maybe Randy may have came from Trixie over here.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Maybe I wrote it down. I was in track for a short time. Anyways, what would you do?

unknown 20:25

31 on Sunday, 21.

SPEAKER_07 20:27

Can I just get like a moped and miss half the month or something?

SPEAKER_01 20:30

You do want a moped?

SPEAKER_07 20:31

I'll take a moped if I don't have to miss out as much time.

SPEAKER_09 20:34

Oh, you don't have to.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

You don't have to do it. You can say you can say no. But this is a dream.

SPEAKER_09 20:39

First of all, let's say what car would it be?

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yeah, what car were you thinking of when I was describing that? What one came to mind?

SPEAKER_07 20:46

Super fast. In AMC Eagle. Really? Wood on the side.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Dala had that.

SPEAKER_07 20:54

That's what you said.

SPEAKER_06 20:55

That is a sweet.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Dala had we we called it the jacked up wheels car. It looked like a you never see them ever. She had one, and it was like maroon. Um, no, not even maroon. I would say like a deep red wine interior, it was in great condition. That's your dream car.

SPEAKER_07 21:13

I mean, I don't like driving fast. I just rather just cruise, like nice going to town, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Out of all the all the cars in the world, it'd be an eagle.

SPEAKER_07 21:21

It's so now babies are like, oh, they're like sometimes then they grow out of it, but sometimes they're so ugly, they're cute. Yeah, yep. That's like the eagle to me. And I'm like, You look not much to look at, but I bet you it's a nice ride.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

I can't wait to tell Dela that your dream car is an eagle. She had somebody, a a guy from her class, I don't know who, maybe it was Greg Bukals, did this. I don't know if he's tinkery, but set up buttons and there was a speaker, and they would play a whole bunch of different songs. I know you guys like I I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_09 22:04

Was it a horn? So it was like uh probably one of those preset horns that like you.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yeah. Yes. And then it would like whatever one you wanted it to do. They put that in the eagle.

SPEAKER_07 22:21

Had that list of things they need in the eagle.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

I would sit out in the car. I would sit when I was little, I would sit out in the car and just honk it, listen to all the different songs. 90s was rough.

SPEAKER_09 22:33

You had to make your own fun. So was it only inside? Did you hear it? Or were you hear it outside too?

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Oh, outside.

SPEAKER_09 22:39

Yeah, I guarantee it was one of those horns. Those were pretty big.

SPEAKER_07 22:42

So big doubt.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Gala will remember. She'll probably say who who put it in.

SPEAKER_07 22:45

She probably knows the playlist too.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

That that song I was detinging, that one, I it's a song that I've heard before, but I can't think of what it's called. I was hoping one of you guys would pick it up. But otherwise, it was like common songs. I think even like happy birthday and stuff. Nothing like pop music. It wasn't anything like that.

SPEAKER_09 23:03

Yeah, that chucks out.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Okay, so let's talk back. Would you do that?

SPEAKER_07 23:07

Would you dear I thought I got away with it?

unknown 23:11

Dang it.

SPEAKER_07 23:12

Still gonna answer it.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Um no one's gonna judge you. Because I know Keith would. You would totally leave us for outer space.

SPEAKER_09 23:21

I don't even need anything.

SPEAKER_07 23:23

I would just what's the plan in outer space? Am I just sitting in a bubble out there?

SPEAKER_09 23:28

No, they're not gonna they show you around, they give you a little tour. With one of those people that are down here, maybe they're nice too.

SPEAKER_07 23:40

Okay, I don't know if I would.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

It's just an eagle. I went for an eagle. That's a dumb car. I thought you'd do better than that. To be honest with you.

SPEAKER_09 23:54

No, you're probably not thinking even just like a regular one. I think we've talked about this a little bit, haven't we? Like the first four-wheel drive one, right?

SPEAKER_07 24:03

Like full frame, you could put a plow on it. And it's a car.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Yeah, I I'm aware. Dela drove it.

SPEAKER_07 24:09

Oh, you know all the specs on these bad boys. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Like it was a beast.

SPEAKER_05 24:15

It had a speaker with a playlist. Just press the button. And it had a red interior.

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Okay. So with that alien logic, if you have like an ugly person that you think is an alien and you have an ugly car.

SPEAKER_09 24:31

Why do they have to be ugly? I just said weird. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 24:36

I was thinking ugly.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

I like your glasses.

SPEAKER_07 24:38

I think you might have said ugly.

unknown 24:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 24:40

You would have slipped.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

The way you described it sounds a little ugly. A little funky. You have a funky person. Yeah, funky car.

SPEAKER_09 24:50

Because Gami is positive all the time, never says anything bad about anybody ever.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

Just give it time. Yeah. But does that make the eagle actually a space? Like an alien spaceship. Is that what the funky person rides into space? So really.

SPEAKER_09 25:08

Oh, I bet they could make it happen.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

The vehicle is a vehicle for here and your ride outer space.

SPEAKER_07 25:14

You should have followed them to the parking lot and see what they're doing.

SPEAKER_09 25:18

It was probably eagle.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

It was Andy's eagle.

SPEAKER_09 25:20

See what they're see what they're pulling up.

SPEAKER_07 25:24

Then maybe they just give it to me and it wouldn't have to go away because I didn't technically buy it. Yeah, maybe I'll just get one for free next day. Maybe. And the reason I don't want to I don't want to go away for a month. I mean, I've already spent enough time away.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

You have. So how many days? Okay, so Andy is. We're gonna just jump around. We're not gonna follow order. But Andy got a liver when was that October?

SPEAKER_07 25:53

October 29th.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Andy has a autoimmune disease that attacked his liver. And you were dying. You were gonna die.

SPEAKER_07 26:06

Did the doctors tell you that? They didn't tell me that.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

No, but I mean you don't get a you don't get on a list if you're a-okay, from my understanding. Right. Right, like I couldn't that kind of list. No, I couldn't get on that list. Um do you want to tell your story of like your like why you what happened with your autoimmune disease and stuff, like about your liver? Because I don't really know all of the details.

SPEAKER_07 26:32

Um it was 2018. They did the first did some tests, they went into the doctor, was just having like back issues, and you're like, Oh, you have this, and but a lot of people that have this, this we can take care of. Um you went in for back issues, yeah, like SI joint, like your sciatic that runs down was like super painful. I didn't know what it was, went to the chiropractor and stuff, and they couldn't fix it. And um yeah, then they said, Well, if you have this, a lot of people have this too. And then they're like some kind of liver thing, and I'm like, okay, so they went and tested that, and they're like, Oh, yeah, you got that too. So usually it's like anywhere from 10 to 15 years, and you'll need a transplant. And I'm like, What for back pain? I'm like, they're like correspond. So um had one issue with it um in 2018 later after they diagnosed it, and then was good for like eight years, and I started having issues again, just like get yellow and like fatigued and sweats and fevers and weird stuff, and then so I'd have to go in. I think they put a stent in, and it was good for a while, then they replaced it one more time, then I was good for like yeah, a long time. But then this last time it was like every month and a half, two months, yeah, over the last year and a half or so. And here we are now, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Got a liver.

SPEAKER_07 28:22

Got a liver.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Yep. So were you born with the disease? Is that how that works?

SPEAKER_07 28:31

Like in the just I should know more about we should have Marissa on.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Marissa should have should have been here.

SPEAKER_07 28:39

She'd be like, You don't know if it's I'll talk, you just be glad.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

So this like attacked your liver in a short period of time, or was it your whole lifespan?

SPEAKER_07 28:49

Um, I think it I think you always have it and just activate it, and I could be wrong, but that's my take on what I got from them. They didn't really ask why do I have this? Doesn't matter if you have it, you know what I mean? It's like deal with it.

SPEAKER_09 29:05

And I think like I remember us talking about it, like it sort of takes a toll. Like your body can kind of even though it's not doing great, like it can keep up for a while. Oh, yeah, it can run at 60% for a while, and then it just couldn't keep up any longer.

SPEAKER_07 29:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just like it's not the actual liver that's bad, it's the bile ducts.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

So they did they take any of Mandy's bile ducts?

SPEAKER_07 29:34

Like all the ones in the liver, and then they cut mine short, so they have less that's prone to the seeds again, so it's very minor on the top and the bottom. Okay, so so that's why you couldn't donate because rub it in. So this the configuration, there wasn't enough there for both of us because they need to get rid of as much as possible of mine.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

The at the ability, and I was just talking to a cut customer yesterday that had a really feel-good story about his kidney donation, and he said he didn't even know that liver donating donations were a possibility until your story.

SPEAKER_07 30:16

Live living donors, live living donors. He goes, I didn't even know that until April. They're like, All right, it's time to sit down and get serious. We're gonna need a liver soon here.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

And you didn't tell anybody, like, were you just playing? Like, I want to know what your end goal. This drives me crazy. It drives me absolutely crazy. You're just gonna like not tell anybody you were dying and needed a liver.

SPEAKER_09 30:39

Because like how bad was it gonna have to get like we are good friends with him?

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Like, good friends, like you would be like, Hey, yeah, so I got some kind of crappy news. Like, I'm gonna be on a list, and I could pop, you know, like you can maybe not. I I can't see you ever asking for a liver, but like I think I I think your mom said it to me. Yeah, you can donate part of your liver. Because I'm like, well, he can take one of mine, and she's like, Well, you only have one, but you can't. Wrong organ, wrong. Yeah, right, wrong. Oh shoot, wrong organ.

SPEAKER_09 31:14

You guys both failed uh health class too.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

We probably did. I was copying off the wrong picture. That was yeah, nuts. That's a side conversation, yes, but um didn't spy on that one. Um, but what was your end goal? Like, not end goal, what was your plan? Like, I really want to know what your and Michelle's plans were like to not die, besides like you don't UW Health handling it. Like, were you gonna tell anybody ever?

SPEAKER_07 31:45

And to be fair, they're like, Well, you'll probably in the next year and a half or so, like we're gonna have to figure something out.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Like, well, they were wrong, it was sooner than that. Because look at they weren't gonna let you go home the week that you got your liver. Remember that one you went in Monday, you were so sick, they said if a deceased donor comes through, you're taking it. We're taking it.

SPEAKER_07 32:08

Oh, yeah, because I can't what was it uh the Wednesday before? So, not even a week before there was a deceased donor that came through.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

And they told her they don't they told Mandy, no, didn't they?

SPEAKER_07 32:21

Well, I told I called her just to give her a heads up. I said, This isn't set in stone, I just want to keep you updated. So we like pulled out of our driveway to head down there and they called and they said this isn't gonna be fit for transplant. So then I called Mandy back again, and I'm like, hey, can I have that liver? I'm gonna need that.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Gonna really need it, so don't start drinking, don't put that bottle down. Um, but you're you're avoiding what I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_07 32:48

I didn't have a plan, like so. I've we talked seriously in April, and you found out in like May. So it was only a month. I didn't really have a plan for sure.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

So stupid. Well, if you know Andy, yeah, Andy and Michelle and Michelle.

SPEAKER_09 33:07

Andy, yeah. You both are very uh not the type of people that are gonna ask for help. Private not gonna like say, Oh, look at poor me, look at what I have.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Yeah, but this is a different scenario.

SPEAKER_09 33:19

I mean, it's a little it's a little more serious when it's life threatening.

SPEAKER_07 33:22

It's still the same mindset, you know what I mean? It doesn't matter to scale, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_09 33:27

Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

But you guys are both very like nonchalant, like, oh well, okay, right?

SPEAKER_07 33:34

Yeah, we'll have to deal with this now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Okay, what's for dinner? You know what I mean? Like it's like that's kind of how both of you are.

SPEAKER_07 33:40

Yeah, so what were you gonna you're just gonna get on a list and wait and then tell us one day, like your I mean they give you a giant booklet, and I'm not a real big sit-down and read kind of guy, so I think I got through maybe six of the 30 pages.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

You're gonna die.

SPEAKER_07 33:57

I'm like, oh, get to that, I'll skim read that later. So I didn't get to the living donor stuff for sure. I mean, said I got a year and a half. I'm like, I got time to read that.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

So side note, live living donors is, and I don't know if this is the correct date, but I think it is, is fairly new. And when I say that I sound old, but since 2000, which is very new. Just think if that happened back then, you would have been dead, or uh a deceased, a deceased, we'd have been waiting for a deceased, yeah. But um, it's a new thing, and it's amazing how the liver grows back. Mandy's liver, so Andy's donor, Mandy, her liver grew back almost with like full size in three months.

SPEAKER_07 34:48

I think that's what they said. Like it's never a hundred percent like the statistics are all over the place as far as who you ask, but they're like three months is pretty fair, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

But her liver decided to grow the other way, and you know, her stomach's like up here, her stomach moved. She said she would feel her stomach gargling and it'd be like, I I don't know what side. I'm trying to think she was in the boutique when she was telling me, I think it's right here. She said her stomach moved up there, and the the surgeon or whoever is like, Yeah, that that can happen. It's not a problem. Your stomach can be up there, but she says she gets full so much quicker now. Like she she can't like eat too much, it's not a problem, but her liver decided to grow the other way and it pushed her stomach. Damn that liver.

SPEAKER_07 35:36

You only have so much room, they all gotta play nice in there.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

Yeah, it's like, you know what, we're gonna try this way. Maybe you won't cut us apart over here, right?

SPEAKER_07 35:45

Tuck up under the ribs a little bit more to be safe.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

Let's hide from that.

SPEAKER_07 35:48

Let's hide it. It's like a baby goose just tucked up underneath there, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:52

But I'm like, that's insane. I guess it's not uncommon, but I mean, they also don't have a ton of live donors for liver to compare it to a whole bunch of cases, right?

SPEAKER_07 36:02

Because when I was down there, we had to take class the first week, just do's and don'ts, what to look out for. And there was, I think there's 13 total. There's two livers, and the rest were all kidney transplants, so like the ratio and that those were probably deceased donors. Yeah, the other one could have been.

SPEAKER_09 36:24

So I asked because I got to be a support person and ask a bunch of questions one time.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

He likes hanging out with Andy when Andy hangs out at the hospital.

SPEAKER_09 36:33

Well, I mean, I just don't want him to feel like he's alone, it's not like a good time. I'm sure it's less of a good time for him.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Andy has terrible ADHD. So I mean, you put him in a hospital room. Oh my, I can imagine you're fixing doors and stuff.

SPEAKER_07 36:50

I did watch a lot of maintenance people. I left my door open. I'm like, oh, there he goes.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

What's he doing over here? That door was squeaky. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 37:00

They said, and this is at UW, so there's some other places that you know do some of these transplants, I'm sure, too. But this is Mayown Freighter. Yeah. Um, that they do like 2,000 liver transplants a year, and living ones, they only do like it depends, you know, like depends on supply and demand, I guess, you know, but uh like 10 to 12 a year. Like nothing.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

That's more than I thought. I thought that liver surgeon, yeah, she said it was like two.

SPEAKER_09 37:37

It depends, like, yeah, but they about one a month.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

That's insane. But a lot, I think a lot of it is people don't know that they can donate a liver, a part of their liver. They don't know. Even a guy that's getting a kidney, he's like, I had no clue. But he said the people that get livers look like they're in a lot rough, rougher shape for healing than a kidney. He goes, like in the room that you guys have to go to the meetings, he's like, the people that get livers look rough, and the kidney people look like hey, ready to party, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 38:10

Grant's only seen one in Eino Flor, looks like so.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

A friend of our will have him on sometime, maybe. Grant. He goes, Hey, he's still he still calls me by my maiden name. He goes, Hey Hoffman, did you uh have you seen Gireth lately? Yeah, we went to school with him. I'm like, no, why he's not looking good. He looks like he looks like he's our chiropractor friend. He and it was out of love, and and like he really he was like concerned. He's like, I don't think that guy is four years, he does not look good. And so I told Andy that. I'm like, hey, how are you doing? He's like, fine. And I'm like, Grant, Grant told me you haven't seen you. Like, are you looking pretty yellow? Right? Because Grant says you look like you have just Andy's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 38:56

I've seen every day in the mirror. I don't know. I look different.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

You did look rough. Like now looking back, do you do you see what he was talking about? Like you were yellow, it's more yellow than your shirt. And it's not, I mean, anyway.

SPEAKER_07 39:08

You went to Fleet Farm and got the yellow paint swatch just to see what oh, it is getting worse.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

No, it was, it was sad. So it was out of concern, but you um you kept bringing you keep bringing it up. So I don't know if it hurt your feelings. It's not that you were like ugly, alien, ugly.

SPEAKER_05 39:25

It was like yeah, how many people are gonna be like a daywalker?

SPEAKER_01 39:31

It was like his color, Hoffman. His color is not looking good. That liver is a loser. We need to get on new one, right? Yeah, um, so Andy Wait, can I jump in really quick?

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Yeah, um, is there like because we're talking about living donors, is there like af major after effects for the donor person, or is it are they totally fine? Their liver just grows back.

SPEAKER_07 40:03

Usually it's pretty fine because they have to be extremely healthy.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Very okay.

SPEAKER_07 40:07

Like they I she went through all that, you can tell them more about that.

SPEAKER_09 40:10

It's and she was denied because she's not healthy.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

No, that's not I can donate to a child.

SPEAKER_09 40:17

Um you don't say that about my liver.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

My liver? Actually, I don't I'm not gonna tell that story because it'll hurt someone's feelings. You know what a story I want to tell about liver size. Oh, yes. We're not gonna go there. No, not by the mother's side, you know what? I'm gonna be here all day. Um, but uh what was your question?

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Are there like major side effects or anything? So it's really an easy it's not easy.

SPEAKER_09 40:50

It's not easy, it's definitely very intrusive surgery. Like they cut it.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yeah, but I know what you're saying. Like, as far as like long-term effects, there shouldn't be any. I mean, I'm sure they give you all of the complications. They they you know, like they have a really good job, they do a really good job, and there must have been many lawsuits that made them do this so many times, but they almost tried talking you out of it at UW. Like they're like, hey, it's gonna suck. And like it's painful, and this and this and this could happen. And like they give you all of the bad and continually, like, continuously ask, are you sure you want to do this? Are you getting paid to do this? Is someone bribing you to do this? Is like obviously the organ world's black market's probably pretty wicked out there, but um they they throw it all out there, all of the bad that's for that stuff. But I think Mandy, and we're gonna have Mandy on so she can say her own piece on it, but like she her biggest complaint was rib pain because they literally have this like metal hook type thing that peel up her ribs to cut out her liver. So she said her rib pain was terrible for a long time. Um and they cut you open more so they don't have to do that. Yeah, they're like yours is slightly like more.

SPEAKER_07 42:06

She's a piece of meat. Let's just let's just get this in there and get it done.

SPEAKER_09 42:10

Yeah, but yeah, then we're not gonna we're not gonna suture you back up just in case we're gonna go back in there.

SPEAKER_07 42:15

Oh, they did, and then cut it.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Yeah, did they have they had to cut you back open three times? Oh so they after his liver, they gave Mandy's liver, let's just be honest, it's not his.

SPEAKER_07 42:27

After Mandy's liver, surrender they kept him open.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Didn't they like just saran wrap it?

SPEAKER_09 42:34

Yeah, yeah, they just in case simple. Yeah, yeah. It was like it was like little uh surgeons listening to this are gonna lose their mind.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

They're like, no, that's not what we put a disclaimer on here. We know that thing.

SPEAKER_09 42:47

Yeah, we're just a bunch of idiots talking.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

We know what I think they put you in. I think they just put it in a Tupperware for a bit, actually. It was a Tupperware, right? It's Andy's liver.

SPEAKER_07 43:03

Oh yeah, but you had a you have are having a rough go, but it's um it's like because they give you worst case scenarios and they have to.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 43:14

And I don't feel like I'm worst case scenario, but it's not like it's not all sunshine and rainbows. No, yeah, because I thought I was gonna be off for a month and a half, two months, maybe. Okay, you had a headset. Here we are five months out. But I mean it's tailing off, but it's like once they fix one issue, then there's something a little bit smaller, but still an issue, a little bit smaller, but still an issue. So we're getting down to the end where it's should be able to subside.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

You said the last time you were in the surgeon said what to you? He even said the F word, maybe. Are you sick of being here? Like he felt bad. He felt like how many times were you back in March 17?

SPEAKER_07 43:59

In March? I did the math for our insurance guy since December 3rd. It was 44 days I was in the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 44:08

So his that's after surgery.

SPEAKER_07 44:11

Yeah, that's not even between December 3rd and the transplant.

SPEAKER_09 44:16

Yeah. Which was probably more often than not.

SPEAKER_07 44:19

Oh, yeah, because I was in there for like six weeks.

SPEAKER_09 44:21

Six weeks straight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

I haven't been updating like the Facebook people, and people always ask me about my liver friend because people don't want to hear the bad. And I don't want to like tell them, yeah, he's actually not doing good. Like he's at.

SPEAKER_07 44:33

I mean I would say I'm doing better than I was prior.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 44:37

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

You're right. But people want to hear a happy ending, and so you gotta give that to me.

SPEAKER_07 44:41

That's why we don't, I don't have the happy ending yet.

SPEAKER_09 44:43

That's why we have to wait so long to have you on here.

SPEAKER_05 44:45

Yeah, we're like, he'll get better, right? Hoping for the best. Still not bad. Try it. That's never true.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

But they tell you as the donor going through it, they're like, you as the donor have everything to lose and nothing to gain. So, like back to your question, Katie. Like, there's nothing you're gonna gain. You could lose a lot, but it I don't want to say I'm not a doctor, but you should donate a liver if you can. Is that your phone?

SPEAKER_06 45:18

Yeah, so who does that? Who does that?

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Sounds like an alien.

SPEAKER_06 45:22

Yeah, I gotta see. I gotta take this.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Oh, wait, I have my phone's ringing. My phone's ringing too. Do you really have to take that? No. Mine's deal off. I should ask her about her eagle.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

So, what are the side of or like if they're giving you a list of things of like this is why you shouldn't do it, like what is on that list?

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Or just like a well, so before you even can go to go through like the all the two days of screening of the labs and the CT and the x-rays and all of they test everything. The advantage of it is you're gonna know everything about your health. They even do like um a DNA to see potential diseases you could get.

SPEAKER_07 46:01

It's like the best physical you've ever had.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Ever in your life. Like, so I have to pay for that. Nope. Yeah, you should don't. More people should. You really should, yeah. No, but like I could see, I'm not I'm not gonna have your insurance pay for that.

SPEAKER_09 46:16

Oh, I just get a bill.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

So the kidney guy I talked to yesterday, he's I don't think he even has to pay. I think he gets help. Oh, maybe, maybe that's a lie.

SPEAKER_09 46:27

I guess it depends on your insurance, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Um, but uh so to you can't even like go to the appointment if there's anything that's a red flag in your history. Like, there's a couple different phone calls you have before you can even go in labs. Like, I had to go did I have to get blood before I even went? I think so for you.

SPEAKER_07 46:52

Right, because it's an easy outpatient step.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Yep, and like for kidney donation, they want a urine and blood sample right away before they because they don't want to waste anybody's time because it's lengthy, and they they do a really good job at back-to-back appointments, so it's like you'll get a seat, you get this, di, di, di, di, and then you have to fast before so they get all your things that you needed to fast for done right away in the morning, but you're busy the whole two days of like labs.

SPEAKER_07 47:17

Um, it's like Disneyland, but pokes and prodded. You just keep moving on to the next thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

Pokes, prodded, and mass, it's super fun, kind of like Disney. Yeah, um, but so like you'll talk, they say like designate like an hour of time, and Thomas was the coordinator I spoke with, and he's like family history, mental health, any surgeries, like they they know everything about you before you even come in, and they'll tell you flat out like you're not good, like they they kick you out for time, and then I lied, I lied a lot um because like well they figured it out. No, they didn't they didn't they did not deny me, but like family stuff. So, like here hear me out when you ask me, did anyone in your family die of cancer? Well, yeah, they all smoked. You know what I mean? The people that died smoked. Nope, ship shape, you know what I mean? Hey, did anyone have a stroke? Well, that same grandma that had a stroke also was a smoker and drink three pots of coffee a day. So, like, I don't take that as like a okay and a doctor listening to this is gonna just absolutely cringe, but I'm like, no, no, none of that happened. No, they're like, Wow, you have really healthy family history. I'm like, I know, I'm a great candidate to save my friend's life. You still got to buy, couldn't even cheat on a test my way out of that one. They know what your bile ducts look like, they know what everything looks like. The one time you cheated and got caught. Yep, I got caught, but that's great. Um, so yeah, they you you'll know, and then they tell you when you go through the testing, you're gonna, it's usually when you get denied, it's because it's anatomy issues or things you don't even know you have health issues of like, oh, I didn't even know I had liver, a fatty liver, or I didn't know I had liver disease, I didn't know my kidneys weren't functioning, so it's usually the unknowns of people that are like, Oh, or low on iron, yeah. So, like, because of my because of Andy and me going to try to donate to for him, I found out I was like anemic to the point that I got a hysterectomy. That's why, yeah, because my iron, my ferritin, they're like, This is insane. Like, how are you functioning? I'm like, Well, I nap in the pickup line and I like just but that's why I didn't know that could be if you have heavy menstrual cycles, yeah. And mine, mine were extremely heavy to the point that they were like, Yeah, you because they would check my ferritin and she got a transfusion, uh iron. I didn't get a transfusion. I got an iron iron after each infusion. Infusion. No one no one gave me their blood, but I got iron. But don't tell people that.

SPEAKER_09 50:08

Did they make it in a lab?

SPEAKER_01 50:10

You you can kind of taste metal, like iron, like but so after my iron infusion, I another reason any doctor listening is they're gonna hate this.

SPEAKER_09 50:19

The topperware, the line.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

We'll put a we'll put a medical disclaimer on this episode. Um don't a doctor.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

They would check. Y'all, you're close, not quite, but you should get a transfusion.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

Do you get a blood? Man, I can just see you telling people at work. Trixie had to go get her blood transfusion today. Oh my god, is she okay? Yeah, ship shape. It's an infusion. It's an iron. I'm 100%.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

I honestly don't know the difference. I don't either. Where would they get the blood from?

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Something's going in. It's iron, they're giving me iron, not blood. Well, anyways, after after the um like a month of having a cycle, the HEMA doctor is like, you are losing a ton of blood. I'm like, I've been saying that since I was a kid, and whenever since I had my cycle, but like, so then they didn't know what was wrong with it until I got my hysterectomy. You're like, holy crap, your uterus was boggy, which I had to Google.

SPEAKER_09 51:19

Can we? Can we?

SPEAKER_01 51:20

Yeah, I knew you were gonna be, I knew you were gonna be I know you want to talk about yourself. I knew you were gonna be rude. I knew you were gonna be rude and say that. I I knew it. It's a perfect timing. No, that's rude as f that's rude. I asked the question. She asked the question. I knew you were gonna try to make me feel bad about explaining it, and you're you are it's too good of an opportunity. How often do I sit and talk about myself?

SPEAKER_09 51:44

Nobody I don't.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

I'm gonna put manure in your cup.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

I'm gonna be manure and there are the reason why I'm telling her is because there's women that I am not kidding you. When I explained it, it's an informative you shouldn't have you shouldn't have to be tired, and that's why this HEMA doctor was amazing because he said you shouldn't be tired all the time.

SPEAKER_09 52:04

Well, I remember after you got your transfusion, you were like on crack.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

Yeah, like I felt so good, flying around because it was that blood transfusion I got, because my husband listens to me so well. So I get an opportunity to talk to our podcast manager, she gives me some attention, and then he calls me out on talking too much. It's okay, we'll cut Keith out of this one.

SPEAKER_07 52:25

I already know what it out. What a just the big black square, no volume.

SPEAKER_09 52:33

We'll just put other sounds with just put a smiley face over here.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Okay, anyways, I will stop talking.

SPEAKER_09 52:42

It'll be it'll be the um the peanuts parents voice.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

Yeah, you sound like you have RSV.

SPEAKER_09 52:52

We were just talking about this. I'm like, hey, how you feeling?

SPEAKER_07 52:54

Or the smoker, and he's like, Yeah, or both, or both they're both kind of the coughing fits are subsiding a little bit.

SPEAKER_09 53:01

I'm like, well, that's good because whenever somebody makes me laugh, I start coughing and then I that's what I was worried about coming today.

SPEAKER_07 53:07

I'm like, oh boy.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

No, you're you're fine. We RSV, is that even contagious?

SPEAKER_06 53:14

Can we like highly contagious?

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Again, I don't a doctor, or even a nurse, or maybe even anybody listening that knows anything medical, they're gonna be like, these people are idiots.

SPEAKER_04 53:27

Send me the title of the episode, don't trust anything.

SPEAKER_07 53:31

I mean, I looked it up before we got here. Google said it was contagious or bad. But you you're but I mean, there's only uh yeah period.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

And it's usually when we've had it for two weeks. Yeah, it's usually when you don't know you have something is when you're contagious, is the yes.

SPEAKER_07 53:51

The minute you find out you're not contagious anymore.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

Isn't it?

unknown 53:57

I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 53:59

Again, not a doctor.

SPEAKER_07 54:00

I quit the tech school. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 54:03

What other questions should we ask, Andy? Because I I love this so much.

SPEAKER_04 54:10

Um okay, I have a deeper question. Oh, I like this. Um, so before, after receiving your liver, do you feel like your view on life has changed at all? Just like kind of getting a brush with like death. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:27

I was gonna say the same thing, and I was gonna see if she was gonna say it.

SPEAKER_04 54:31

Let's try to find a kinder way to say it, but no, with death.

SPEAKER_07 54:35

Uh yeah, I would say, especially like being away and having to go back so many times, which is just part of the process. Like, you miss out on so many hours and days and weeks. It's like use your time, like value it, you know what I mean? Um try to the best you can, you know what I mean? It's uh oh, there's stuff I want to do, but there's stuff that needs to get done, and then priorities kind of change too, as far as well, it didn't get done today. Before I'm like, ah, I got seven things on the list, I got time to do five, you know, so it just slowed down a lot more. I guess that answers the question, kinda.

unknown 55:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 55:32

Somebody get those kids a happy meal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 55:36

I need a warm-up too.

SPEAKER_04 55:40

There was the other question is if somebody is going in for a like a transplant or preparing for it, like what is something that you would like some wisdom that you would give them in this process?

SPEAKER_07 55:57

Um I guess just everybody at not ever not everything goes perfectly, but everybody has the same interest. So just because things aren't going, you know, according to plan, they're gonna figure it out. Like you don't have you're not gonna do any better sitting at home googling it, figuring it out, you know what I mean? They that's they're professionals, and just keep an open mind and be patient. It's like there's no other way to do it, you'll go crazy. Like if you let your mind go somewhere else, does that make sense? Um those are the kind of things that I've noted and I didn't even like plan on doing, they just kind of happened in my mind, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 56:58

Yeah, um yeah. Do you meet other people like in this process that are waiting for a liver as well, or are you kind of almost an island in this process? Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_09 57:12

Like my secluded from other like possible recipients, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Like, do you have any other people that you hung out with that were like, Yeah, I'm waiting for a liver too?

SPEAKER_07 57:21

Uh, a lot of people reached out after your post, like, oh, I have the same thing. My mom has the same thing, my uncle has the same thing. Um, and some of them had gone through the process already, some of them were in the steps leading up to um some of them have had prior transplants that didn't like worked for five years and then they had rejection or 10 years and had rejection. Um, there's a lot of other things that like coincide with I mean you're immunocompromised, and they they don't want you to re your body to reject the liver, so your immune system is dropped way down. Always hence the RSV. So you're always and we shouldn't have ate out of that chip bag from the guy behind us, probably.

SPEAKER_09 58:15

Yeah, with the well, you'd think that the 87 beers that they had would have killed anything. And you no, them. Oh remember all the beer underneath. You had about 87, no, probably 67. 67 beers, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 58:31

No, no, the guys behind. Oh, yeah. Oh my god, they're awesome. I'm like, wow, not even mad. He was like in conveyor line coming down the end. Surveys, it was awesome. They had a really good time.

SPEAKER_01 58:48

But you were getting at something, yeah. What was that? Oh, your immune system. So is it always gonna be compromised? Like you're for your whole life, you're always gonna be that sickly friend that we can't be around if we have a cold.

SPEAKER_09 59:00

Always has a cold.

SPEAKER_07 59:03

That's sad, but you're alive, it's better than being in a cooler in the basement of the hospital. Yeah, that is. I mean, it's give and take, right?

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Right, it's a positive outlook. I mean, in a really dark way, it's a positive flip of it.

SPEAKER_07 59:19

Well, I mean, yeah, they always people always say, Well, the alternative, right? I'm like, Yep, I get it, I got it.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

But did you ever hear the saying that just because it could be worse doesn't mean it doesn't suck? You know, people are like, well, it can be worse. Doesn't mean that the moment doesn't suck sometimes. Don't take away a sucky time from someone that deserves to be like, this sucks. Right? Like you can still be grateful you have a liver, but still be like, God, this kind of sucks right now.

SPEAKER_07 59:49

Oh, yeah, but that can go for anybody for any aspect of life, you know what I mean? Right. This is just my deal. People deal with bad stuff all the time.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Yep. I like how you point at him, like what some people have low iron, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:00:07

I'd I'd hate to be that person.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

You just he's on a roll thing. I I'm happy that everyone can see what kind of he has. The side of everyone's always like, oh, he's so perfect. Oh, he's so nice. And I'm like, okay. People like there's a side of them. There's a side of them. There's a side, there's a side of them when I get sassy and I get testy that there's a reason for it. I'm not just a psycho for no reason.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:30

Maybe he just feels comfortable because he has some backup here. I'm not gonna be like, Don't you talk to your wife like that?

SPEAKER_09 1:00:36

Hey, wait a minute, since I'm on a roll, what do you think? Where do you get off thinking you can take my wife to prom or homecoming wherever you went?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Because we were friends first.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:48

I know. Uh was it prom?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:51

Yeah, it was prom. We smoked cigars in the parking lot at the high school with Grant, Lindsay, Brogan.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

What do we drive there?

unknown 1:01:05

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:05

That's I like, oh, that's what he thinks.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:09

What car did I have?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

I think it was your Mercedes, a black, your black old vintage Mercedes.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:15

I didn't have that in high school.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

Oh, that was someone else.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:19

It was my that was my other date. I only hung around for half the time. I don't know. I like how that's what he thinks.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

He would think about, yeah. What kind of car did I drive?

SPEAKER_07 1:01:29

I was just wondering if I borrowed one from somebody because I didn't have anything cool in high school.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:34

Didn't you have a sob?

SPEAKER_07 1:01:37

Yeah, that was more square than yours, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Maybe we took stutterling Stanley, the stanza.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:45

We wouldn't have got there. Second gear, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

Um, okay. Do you remember? I don't know if we should bring this up. Okay, I'm gonna, because it's funny. It's funny. So we were at country USA.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:07

No, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Anyone there, anybody that knows this story will already be laughing with us. And this is when Andy and Lindsay and I lived together in a house in Ogdensburg, and my mom's crazy first cousin rented it to us. And when I say crazy, I mean she was crazy, so crazy that Andy's innocent mother. If you meet Andy's mom and dad, they're the perfect Wisconsin type parents you could ever meet. His dad is Mr. Fixit, kind, just great people, great people, his mom's so sweet. Wasn't she a librarian or something at a time?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:43

In kindergarten, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

Yep, like just perfect. But this woman, my mom's cousin, made Andy's mom so mad. Your mom spit spit at her shoe. Don't you say that about my kid and like like spit like like the old school?

SPEAKER_07 1:03:01

Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

That that's like the old school style of like you spit when you're like mad at someone. Like she did, and my mom told me that. I don't know if it's accurate, but my mom's like, Gail was I've never seen Gail that mad. But she like let her have it. That was like some but this isn't the funny story.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:16

That was like some cowboy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:17

That was some cowboy that Gail busted out, but um she probably learned it at the rodeo, she probably did.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:24

So it's yeah, so informative.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:27

He's come away with so many good things from the rodeo.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:30

Andy was on probation.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:34

We won't go into that. We won't.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

It's something it's stupid, it's stupid. It was like juvenile stuff, and um, we were I got caught looking in windows.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:43

Wait, seriously?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

Oh that was his way of digging at me. He's trying to get back at me for telling the story, but um he was on probation, so you shouldn't drink underage. Okay, and don't think this is why Andy's liver was he didn't know he had a liver at this time, he was just a teenager drinking at country USA like everybody else. We're at some campsite. I got lost. I don't know where you went, I don't know what happened to me.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:12

I think you just you left, didn't you leave for a Kennedy Chesney concert for oh yeah, I didn't I did.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:18

It was a birthday present, but like I don't know, was that when you okay? So, anyways, Andy got arrested at Country USA, and I was I went home like a day later, like and wasn't staying at the campground anymore. I don't know if it was over. I think country say might have been over. Yeah, I don't know why I was home, but I was home. Andy wasn't there because Andy was in jail. Well, there was a knock at the door, and I go and answer it. I'm like, hi, and it's his sweet mom, Gail, who's so sweet. She's like, Nikki. I'm like, yeah, she's where's Andy.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:51

They worked for my dad and they didn't show up for work for probably days, yeah. Probably a couple days. Why didn't they come on the first day?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:00

I don't miss it.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:01

We'll give them a little time.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

I don't know. I don't know what day it was, but I was probably in my penguin pajamas, lounging between my bartending jobs that you didn't really always go to all the time. Jobs.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:12

How many times did you call her in sick? At which bar?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:17

He I'd be like, he'd call me in sick, anyways.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:20

Did he hear my voice on the let me guess? Nikki's not coming in. Yep, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

I know that's why I think my standards with like employees, and like, well, they always say they show up, they show up and they're good because it's like I didn't do that all the time. I was usually drinking or hungover, but um, so his picture, sweet gale. Maybe we'll have to add a picture and just to get a really good, like a good visual. And I'm like, Oh yeah. She's like, I'm like, he's in jail.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:51

How about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

And she's like, What? I'm like, he uh he must still be in jail. Why we didn't worry about it.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:00

It was a cell phone. So you didn't know anybody's number back then. It was a like first transition. So everybody had new phones.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:07

This is like 2004. Five. No, because I had Sawyer in 2005. So this is 2004. This is like but you graduated in 2000.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:19

I think it was that summer though. Oh yeah. I moved straight. Yeah, you went straight to the berg. Straight to the burg. I'm moving up in life. Little did you know you're moving down.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:31

Ogdensburg was the town we lived in. You call it the bird. And it was like, it's like the Bronx. It it's rough. I bartended there, and I remember people were like, whoa. And then like in police interviews, when they would ask where I bartended, I would say Tom's place, and they're like, in the berg. I'm like, yeah, they're like, she can handle it. Oh, yeah, I can. The rule was you never called the cops, and there was a baseball bat behind there. And if people would get out of hand, you'd slam the bat on the bar.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:56

If you called the cops, you'd be fired, and there'd be fights all the time. And it was like not like minor fights, they were like wild, wild west days fights.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:05

That's Mr. Lempke was teaching us the whole time. What? With the baseball bat. Oh, yeah. See? He'd be like sitting kind of loud in here.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:13

See? Listen up. That's the teacher I spied on. Would you not spy on that?

SPEAKER_07 1:07:18

That's right. I forgot. I was thinking a different teacher.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

No, it was him. He was like, what does he do at home? Like, are you like, what were you waiting for? I don't know him to hit his wife with a bat. Like, but it didn't happen. And it wasn't, it was a nice house and like very um teachery, like books and stuff. So like you're like, what? Mr. Lemke has this like whole different life.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:43

I know you've never been inside, but what did the inside look like?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

Exactly how I'm describing it. Like bookshelves and stuff.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:50

Like color carpet. TV guide.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

Yeah, TV guide. Um, like uh a TV tray. Oh, like a microwave, but probably it's yep, probably like soda and whiskey of some sort in it.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:06

Large ashtray.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:07

Yep. Picture like green shag carpet. No, it it was a nice house. Oh, it wasn't outdated. Interesting. She was surprised by that. That's what my that's what I'm getting at. Like when I was creeping, I was like, Mr.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:21

Lemke has a great because he threw a vibe like you don't mess with him.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:26

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:26

Because he had like he had like a shirt on, like that, and with like black sweatpants. Looked like me and Camis.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

Yes. But his hair, he would have his hair, chest hair blossoming.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

Up the top. Well, that was that was a power move. And then he would eat candy bars and then be a power move back in the 90s.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:46

Yeah. You left. He'd eat the candy bar.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:49

Yep. And he'd cross his cross his hands and he'd still have the other half of the candy bar in his.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:54

Yeah. It's fine. And then he would say it, yeah. But where were we getting at? So yeah, Andy was arrested.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:01

And she's poor Gail. You can't get away from these conversations. You try and lead her astray and she goes right back. I go back.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:07

I've I can keep up. But like she I'll never forget that.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:15

I felt bad for Gail when you told me that story.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

Oh, she's so sweet. Like, if it would have been my mom, what how would my mom would have reacted?

SPEAKER_09 1:09:22

She would have laughed.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:24

Again. Nikki. Can't keep her out of jail. I'm not bailing her out. I told Denny if she's in, I'm not bailing her out.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:32

Not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

Not doing it.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:34

She can learn her lesson and sit there.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

She told the school when we ran away to New York that if someone would kidnap us, they would give me back. I'm not worried about Nikki. She'll come back. No, they nobody's gonna want to keep her that long. They'll give her back. Sad. But she she didn't mean it. They would keep me.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:53

Um can we just go back to the name Ogdensburg? Like what a Wisconsin town name. Agdensburg. It's a kind of a cool little town.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

But it's rough. It's not cool like that. It's not like there's no shops, it's a it's a bar and a church. I think two bars and a church. That's important. Or two churches.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:12

So yeah. So in like numerical order, would you close right over by Scandinavia or Simpco?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

Oh, Simcoe is rough too. I bartended there too. And I think Ogden's burg has a whole next level stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:29

Yeah, it's got more clouds over it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:31

It's yeah, like that's where someone could get murdered. Simcoe is where someone would get shined up pretty good. Yeah. Royalton, do we? I mean, it's like a drive-thru town. I was just gonna say that. You know what I mean? It's like meh. I don't know how much crime happens there. I think my mom almost got kidnapped in in Royalton. That's for a different one by Spanbauer, Cora Jones' killer. True story. That's a true story. She'll look yeah when she was young.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:03

But not much crime happens there. No, driving.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:06

I'm I'm trying to, I think that might have been at Royalton. That's why you drive through. If she was listening, fast. If she if she would listen to this, she'd be like, Nikki, you know, I almost was kidnapped on my bike in Royalton by that guy that was wearing the Terry 2's jumpsuit because he was on mechanic. That's what she would say.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:26

Well, now it's noted.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:29

Is your mom gonna be on this podcast? Oh lord, she would love it. She would she would love airtime. She would be a hoot, but um, she's has a lot of good ghost stories too. Yeah, but back to Andy and not Barb. Barb's still in the show. Oh, because we were talking about what my mom would say. Judy, what would Judy say? She would bail you out, and she would blame the cops. Well, I think they were a little rough on my Keith.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:59

I bet you, I bet you she'd have probably a lot of the same responses Gail did.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:04

Oh, yeah. She's a she's sweet, she's a Wisconsin sweet mom, too.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:09

So did Gail come and get you? What happened? What was the end of that?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

Yeah, how did you get out? Who bailed you owe it? Or did they just let you out? Oh, you saw a judge.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:18

Your PO had to let you out.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:19

Lindsay came and got she did.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:21

Oh, the good friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

She was more responsible.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:26

Your phone is probably dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:27

It was probably dead for the last week. Did she really come get you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:35

Is that what that's probably where you guys put it together that he was there? And they're like, oh, we should probably go get rent, the rent's due.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:43

We gotta go get him.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:44

We have some things that need to be fixed. We're gonna shut our water off. We need our lawnmower.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:48

Go check his room, check under the mattress. Maybe he's got some cash under there. We could leave him there for another week.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:53

That's a lie.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:56

Maybe we can maybe we can sell his dog for something.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:00

We did. So we sell his dog. Make me sound so bad. He had a wiener dog.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:12

Yes, I got a wiener dog on here. That's what it reminded me of.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:16

He had a wiener dog, and he was a hardworking guy, so he wasn't home a lot, and that wiener dog would run away all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:22

He waited there was a bay window like three feet up, and that dog. I was driving out of the driveway one time and he was inside, and all of a sudden the windows are open. I seen this dog just like bust through the screen like he's like he's crossing the finish line, busted through, but it's like a six-foot drop on the other side, and I'm like, oh, he broke his legs for sure. Nope, just chased me down the ho down the road. That's why I had to go put him back inside, close all the windows.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:53

He was insane. He was insane. So Lindsay and I did something with him. I would never hurt a dog. We knew where he we knew we knew where he got the dog from. And it was like a sec like the lady didn't want him anymore. Yeah, let's take him back there. Oh, that's so mean. So we just went to the house and put it back in the fence, the backyard fence. So like there was a backyard with wiener dogs running around, and we just plopped it over the fence.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:29

Maybe she thought it was meant to be because the dog just found its way back home.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:33

She wasn't a bad owner, she wasn't like um a puppy mill.

unknown 1:14:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

Why did you take that dog?

SPEAKER_07 1:14:41

Like what was the story? Owner hated it. Really? I thought it was giving it a better home. Oh, literally, no, probably got euthanized.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:53

You killed the dog, basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:55

No, I doubt it. No, but like, really, how did you know her?

SPEAKER_09 1:14:59

I have no idea. I'm just connecting the dots here. We felt like murder.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:05

We felt like it was a better life for the dog because he was gonna get hit in Ogden's bird.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:10

We lived in a dead-end street with a population of 200 people.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:14

There was a really cool house next door to us, too.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:16

I think we should just keep going down this rabbit hole of things. This is fun.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:22

No, because now, like, I feel now or they had turned the tables on her one time and she's like, No, I don't want to go down this road. I don't like this road.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

No, I just don't think it was a bad. I don't want to think that the lady was mean to dogs that I dropped it off.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:37

She probably realized that's where the dog should be. Probably let it in the house for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

Did we tell you where the dog went? It must have been Lindsay's idea. I'm gonna blame Lindsay. It was her I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:49

I wasn't there. She's not here to defend herself, so let's blame Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:52

It was her Ford focus that drove there.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:54

I just know that I came home and my companion was gone. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:01

Is this when you got home from jail? And then she told me, like, yeah, at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:06

Get home from jail.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:07

Well, at least at least I got my dog. Where's the dog? Where's Harley?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:12

It's the same Harley I forgot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:16

And Lindsay's like, yeah, he ran away.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

So decide.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:21

What? Is that what we told you? Yeah, you told me, like, when you bought the mill, yeah, we took it back. We got rid of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:28

You thought it ran away all those years?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:30

I mean, I figured that you gave it away. Those are just kind of roommates you were. I would have done the same for you. Oh, this is great.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:43

This is great.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:46

So are you good? Like, are you well? Like all the bur things?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:54

Um yeah, I mean, for the most part, it's I feel way better because but it's just like uh once in a while I get tired, and most of the time they gotta go to the hospital. It's some kind of obviously, like I said, immunocompromise, so every little thing is a big thing. So I had a couple infections that they it's pretty easy to treat. I mean, it's typical for someone in like similar to my case, but they know how to deal with that for the most part. Okay, sometimes it's just reoccurring, so they gotta go longer with antibiotics or something, but is this something that your kids have to worry about too potentially because my wife is celiac, they're gluten-free, so that's autoimmune too.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:50

Yeah, so I'm like, Yeah, you guys did a great job. Yeah, these poor kids, yeah, and I mean not necessarily Abby, what happened while you while this was going on, your bad luck of your family?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:04

I'd rather not, yeah, but I think that's fine. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:06

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:08

So his daughter, Abby, how old's Abby's eight, eight had a stroke two weeks after transplant, my transplant. So Michelle was like my support group. So she would like sit in, she would keep all the stuff straight. It's probably why I was a little lax on stuff because I know. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:31

She knows I asked her medical stuff. I'm like, what did this mean? She's like, Oh, this is this is what this means. She's gonna hate this pot, she's gonna hate this episode after she gives you a dumb look.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:40

Like, how do you not know that?

SPEAKER_09 1:18:41

Yeah, well, anyway, she's gonna be like, I'm gonna have to come on and set everybody straight with all the with all the bogus stuff you told everybody.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:48

Like, okay, this is a complete mess to let me, yeah. But yeah, so we were sitting there, and Michelle got a phone call. Um, Abby's standing at a friend's house, and the look on her face was like, I'm like, that's weird. Yeah, and she hangs up. Well, she said, Well, call the ambulance.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:09

And I'm like, Oh my god, who would she tell that to, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:16

And so she got up the phone, she's like, Abby is um projectile vomiting and like doesn't know where she is, and like not focusing on who she's talking to, and just she won't respond to much, and so she went to I think it was New London hospital, and they said they need to go somewhere with more that has more options for treatment or whatever, because we don't really know what we know this is wrong and this is wrong, but we don't know why. So then they took her down to UW Children's Hospital, which was like right out my window.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:04

Yeah, he's at the hospital at the same time, two weeks after surgery.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:10

And yeah, they diagnosed it as a stroke. Um, and I mean they're still that I mean, we're looking at four and a half months out from her episode, and they don't really know why 100%. They're just they're zeroing in on it, but they're trying to cover all bases, so but she she's ready to go back to normal activities, but they're like no running, no jumping.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:41

Oh, still, and she was a gymnast.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:44

She's actually going on Thursday. I was gonna say you could have rode down.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:47

We're going on Thursday.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:49

Her appointment's on Thursday. Oh, probably but then they should clear her if all goes well.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:56

Gymnastics recess, gym class, and she's like a wild, she's like a mini Andy, she's like a wild child. But the sad part, the sad part of the story, which people like heart tugging on the heart strings, is that didn't a doctor or a nurse asked Michelle, where's dad? And then Michelle's like, actually, he's right over there. He just had a transplant, and then Abby started crying. Like you weren't getting much of a reaction out of her in the hospital, and then she heard she must have heard that, and then like they got a reaction, and Michelle's like, all of a sudden, Abby starts crying because she heard them say that. So that's sad.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:35

Yeah, they're little buddies, they are little buddies.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:39

Yeah, because then Michelle kind of told me that, and I'm like, I gotta get disconnected from this thing, I gotta go over there.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:47

Like, did they?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:49

Um, I think I had 20 minutes left on my infusion, but they're like, Yeah, then you can go. Are you saying trans? Was it a transfusion? No, it was infusion. Sounds like the drone's like it could go either way.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

So did you run out of there with your ass out of your gown?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:07

Yes, basically a nurse closed it for me on the way. She's like, You can't go out there like that. You're exposing yourself. That's the kids' hospital. You'll go to jail.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

And they like buckled up your saran wrap and stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:23

No, because as long as I wasn't having the procedure, they didn't make me wear the dress. Because I'm like, Can I put normal clothes on? Yeah, I'm like, I can't do this. Like, I don't dress up like this at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:36

Use some Mill sweatpants. Yeah. Do you wear them? Yeah. Did you wear them at the hospital? Yep. Okay, because just making sure we getting our name out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:42

Those are warm.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

They're great. I don't know what happened to mine. Can I can I have yours?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:48

Probably with your car hurts and my black football jersey. Probably. And your dog. Um you just got you just got a box, be like, oh man, that dog's still in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:59

That's sad. That's sad. Okay. What is your what do you want to do with your life? Like, what would be your perfect end goal?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:11

Oh, end goal.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:13

Like, I'm talking about you and Keith. Not relationship-wise, but like business-wise. What do you what do you see you guys doing?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:24

Costum? Yeah. In our spare time. Work towards like. Oh, that'd be sweet. Jeeps and a little bit of everything. Yeah. Dabble so you don't get bored. Uh-huh. Like Wednesday rocking chairs. Take Fridays off. Um.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:47

That's it? Just Wednesdays?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:50

Yeah, I mean, that's get enough done.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:54

No. As long as we're efficient with our time.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:57

Yeah. It's just there's so many vehicles that people just neglect. Like that are sitting back behind a shed or a barn and be like, I don't know how to fix that. It's not really worth it anymore. I already stuck too much money into it. So it just sits there. They don't have the heart to scrap it. And some of them do.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:20

But it's like be nice to give them another life, another chance at life, kind of like Andy did with his liver.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:27

Yeah. Hmm.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:29

That's a good liver, liver restoration. New, new liver, new liver, new life.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:38

Oh my god. I don't know if we can even air this between seven minutes of quality stuff. So I was looking for something like more um like well, what do you want us to do?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:58

You got you got your work pants on, tell us what to do. Yeah. It's about time that you start delegating.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:06

Again, do you see how nothing gets done? It's just like dart, dart, dart. Well, Wednesdays we'll make rocking chairs, and Fridays we'll take off, and Mondays and Tuesdays.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:15

I mean, look around, woman. A lot of got done.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

Thanks to me. Delegating. Showing up, making sure you guys aren't just chewing the fat. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:32

Chewing the fat.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:33

Um, okay. Because I can just see like you guys having a shop and doing exactly I just gotta get rid of this. Wife?

SPEAKER_09 1:25:41

Day job.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:42

His day job. Yeah, his day job, really. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:49

But it's all the other stuff, too. I mean, kids are roughly the same age, you know what I mean? They're busy.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:55

Got a little ways to go with those rug rats. Keep your eyes peeled, everybody, for new liver restoration. Coming at you with a brand new video. Oh my god. Okay. Coming soon.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:10

Hey, we'll see you guys next Tuesday. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:12

Thanks for listening. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:14

Help me freely walk in your eyes.