Beans & Banter
We are Keith and NiCole Fischer, owners of The Mill in Bonduel, Wisconsin. The Mill is a coffee lounge, bourbon retailer, and boutique. But more than that, it’s a gathering place for numerous people, full of countless stories. Join us as we dissect our
Beans & Banter
Cubby
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What happens when you look at your kid and realize they're becoming their own person?
In this episode, we sit down with our son Cubby for a conversation about growing up, family, sports, work, and figuring out what comes next.
At 15, he's already working, building a small business, and learning lessons that will stick with him long after high school. We talk about the role parents play in pushing their kids, knowing when to let go, and sometimes knowing when a kid needs a little push.
We love Cubby. He's a good kid. And our favorite right now.
Grab a coffee, pull up a seat, and get to know Cubby with us.
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After that after the act of birthday Happy birthday to you.
SPEAKER_03Happy birthday to Happy birthday to Happy Birthday to Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Thanks, guys. It's Keith's birthday.
SPEAKER_00You are feeling close to me. You tell me. You know.
SPEAKER_01All right. Hi. My name's Nicole Fisher, and this is my husband, Keith Fisher. And it's his birthday today. Um, and today's a special guest, and we thought, what better guest than his favorite child? You are the favorite now. This week probably.
SPEAKER_05I probably have been for the last like month or two.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's been good. He's been legit the favorite.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, cubby, the one and only cubby.
SPEAKER_05It used to be Sawyer and Sawyer. Like now he's like at the bottom of the list.
SPEAKER_01And all morning the cat's been crying.
SPEAKER_05Stuff that we've had to do with his truck lately.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's not the favorite anymore. You you're the favorite. You're just kind of low maintenance.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's good to know.
SPEAKER_01So this is his real name is Colin Fisher, but he's never gone, he's never gone by Colin. It's always been cubby since I've known him.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh. And he like writes cubby on his papers at school.
SPEAKER_01The school calls him cubby.
SPEAKER_05How old are you, Cub?
SPEAKER_04I'm 15. And high school is pretty light work so far.
SPEAKER_03Oh, let's get right to it.
SPEAKER_04All right. Tell me about yourself. What are some things that you like to do? Well, I work at the mill, obviously. I'm a cook.
SPEAKER_01Tell us about that. Because it's not obvious to the listeners. Tell me about your how often you work.
SPEAKER_04Um, I work two days every weekend.
SPEAKER_01So every weekend.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and sometimes weekdays. Um, I work with a lot of my friends, so it makes work better and actually kind of fun at times.
SPEAKER_01So and you're good at your job, which was a pleasant surprise for us. We were we were worried. Like you started off.
SPEAKER_05I didn't know how it was gonna turn out. No faith.
SPEAKER_01Well, you kind of forget things sometimes.
SPEAKER_05You were pretty young when you started, you know.
SPEAKER_04It's probably like 12. Yeah. You were doing dishes as a dishwasher.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And we don't get many complaints, maybe because he's our kid. No, I think they've complained about Journey to us. We don't get complaints about cubby from staff.
SPEAKER_05No, no, everybody likes working with him.
SPEAKER_01I think I think the old gals, when I mean old gals, the veterans here, they would be like, uh, can you tell Cubby to Yeah, he sucks at this, or yeah, whatever. He left us with this mess. So you you're a good team player, which we like.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So tell us what is your favorite part of your job?
SPEAKER_04Uh, my favorite part of my job is probably talking to people, especially the customers. Because it's fun to hear what they have to say.
SPEAKER_01I love that for you. And how did that start out?
SPEAKER_05How did it start? Were you good at talking to people when you first started here? No, not at all.
SPEAKER_01Do you I do when I was taking um prom dress shopping, but pants? Prom pants shopping.
SPEAKER_05Prom pants.
SPEAKER_01I he got lost in the store. Well, I lost him, and you were talking to an old dude. Like you just talk to people now, which I think is great um for your generation in the texting world.
SPEAKER_05Communication does not seem like they kind of have a bad rap this age. So if you can, you know, be a little bit of a bright spot and kind of a not so bright generationally communication, yeah.
SPEAKER_01A community in a communication way.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, then I think you're doing real well. So that's good. So that's that's part of the reason why service jobs are so important for young people because it makes you have to talk to people, and learn how to not treat people, right?
SPEAKER_01Because when people are jerks, you're like it teaches you how to tip, and like yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, sometimes when I talk to strangers and they like start talking to me first and like call my name, I get nervous for a second, but like I don't really stutter anymore.
SPEAKER_01Why like what do you mean strangers know your name? Yeah, like here, they'll be like, hey, Kobe.
SPEAKER_04Even last year, last night during the baseball game, someone the third baseman said you were posting about me on Facebook.
SPEAKER_01How did the third baseman know? On the other team? Yeah, Shy Octon?
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Girl, wow, my posts are getting out.
SPEAKER_04It's because they all knew my name somehow.
SPEAKER_01Really? The third base. Oh no, the left fielder was good.
SPEAKER_05That little guy? That little guy had an arm. And he could hit.
SPEAKER_01But what I didn't like about him. What I didn't like about him is when I said good catch, he didn't acknowledge it.
SPEAKER_05Thought that was rude. The left the other left fielders were laughing with me a little bit when I told him to get in the shade. I'm like, you can just sit camp out over here. Well, this is right down the line.
SPEAKER_01The center fielder yelled at them because they were like, he's like, What are you afraid of a fence? Because like three of them rain to catch a ball and they stopped by the fence.
SPEAKER_05And they both all of them dropped like right in front of them. Oh, yeah. That was funny.
SPEAKER_04Which it was hot. It wasn't too bad, actually. I didn't really feel the heat anymore. I was just sweating really bad. Yeah.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05So what are some what are some of your favorite wait?
SPEAKER_02Can I go back to that? Were they saying your name to try and throw you off, or was it in a positive way?
SPEAKER_04I don't I don't think so. I think we're just like it was friendly banter. We're talking on second base, but it's I seemed precious.
SPEAKER_01And it hasn't always been that case with Shyoctin. This must have been a different team because Chyoctin usually chatter a lot. They have a lot of cocky cocky, not all, but there's some cocky chatter with Shyoctin, and there was none of that last night, at least in the outfield, what we heard. It was friendly banter.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like I even talked to the pitcher that hit me after the game.
SPEAKER_01And we're just you're like, Thanks for getting me on, man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So why'd you hit me? He was like a curveball just slipped.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's that's refreshing that there's some. I almost fought the second baseman in Cheyocton last year. A child. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER_05It was the shortstop.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. I wanted to fight him.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then when he got struck out, I was like, yes!
SPEAKER_05Like, never was like the crowd was so quiet. You could just hear mama bear come up come unglued.
SPEAKER_01He was too cocky. He was even your mom was like yelling stuff at him like because it was like things he would say would be like negative.
SPEAKER_05He would never want to.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't joking, it was like cocky attitude.
SPEAKER_05That's that's not a good look for kids, just like any age.
SPEAKER_01Or a mom. Actually, on the sidelines.
SPEAKER_05Not a great look.
SPEAKER_01Wanting to fight a child.
SPEAKER_05I think I think I actually just went like this, and I'm like, uh.
SPEAKER_01He yelled at me at a game in front of everybody.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_01Do you want to go into that real quick, hubby? Yes, please. We were in Abrams. We were in Abrams, and there was some they don't have umps because it's young. You gotta engage in this. It's your birthday. It's young. They didn't have umps, but there's kind of some shady stuff like that. I don't want to like think it's kind of BS. Like they don't have they didn't have a pitching machine for us, which is kind of tacky. Because if you're hosting, you should have a pitching machine. So the whole bunch of stuff coupled up, and then the first base coach kept calling the plays.
SPEAKER_05So it seems sort of odd, but the the base coaches are the umps, essentially, because it's young for the game, because it's younger kids, and it's just league. Like, let's start with that. It is just league.
SPEAKER_01Everybody there is there to learn and learn fundamentals of baseball, and learn how to play a fair game, a fair game, and have coaching that's fair.
SPEAKER_05And we got dads that are coaches, some of whom have probably never kids are the best, some of whom have probably never coached before. Let's give a little grace.
SPEAKER_01But still think their kids are the best.
SPEAKER_05So there was multiple instances where like judgment calls came into play, and the and the coach whose team it was called it in their favor.
SPEAKER_01It was in the grass, it was in it was hitting the fence in like all the it was it was like four in a row. It was terrible, and so I'm but I'm also like a hype girl, so like if people around me are mad too, I'm gonna get mad with them.
SPEAKER_05So I was starting to feel feel the the Pondewell sidelines getting a little get a little upset with what was happening, and and it I mean, it mattered because they beat us and then they went to the champ champion game. But at the same time, we went to one.
SPEAKER_01We went, we didn't, we weren't gonna win.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we weren't gonna win, and also the kids are all learning at this point.
SPEAKER_01So they should learn to trust their coach and to defend them and be like, you know what? No, that was a BS call.
SPEAKER_05So right, the I don't know where you're going with that, but okay. So that's I just I gotta get everybody back to the case. I got it. I just said something we're representing not just the names on the back of our jerseys, but the ones on the front too.
SPEAKER_02And we said like a true coach, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, so the first base coach I said I said something to him because he was like the one of the dads said something, and I'm like, I said something back, and Keith went trixy in front of everybody, knock it off, enough, and I'm like, You're not my dad. I think is what I said, and he's like, Enough, we don't do this, and I was like, Are you kidding me? And then, but all the parents around me are like, Yeah, we do. Like, this has been going on all game. This is like Catherine's gumslap moment. But it's keep yeah, I was so pissed. So there was like a break between the games. Sorry, cubby, we'll get to you. There was a break between the games. I went and sat in my sat in the car and listened to my book on tape, which now kids call audio. Because I was like, I went up to him after the game. I'm like, don't ever talk to me like that in front of people again. And he's like, Trixie, I had to use you as an example. Yeah, or not.
SPEAKER_05Same thing I do with Nox and Nash and Erin Cubby. I when I coached him, you're extra hard on your own family.
SPEAKER_01You treated his wife like that. I'm like, you're gonna choose the first base, go home with him. Tell me how that works out for you. What book were you listening to? Oh, it was so good. Divorce.
SPEAKER_00I didn't even mean that. I didn't even mean that. But it was good. It was good. You gotta listen to it too. And then oh my god, that's it.
SPEAKER_01Nox came in between games. He's like, Oh, you're listening to it. And it's like, it was a good book.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was so good.
SPEAKER_01But it's it's it's convenient that it was experienced it. Anyways, so cubby, your dad. I know he yelled, it's hard on you and the boys.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he always picked me out at Braxis. He'd make me the example, make me look dumb.
SPEAKER_01Give me an example of that.
SPEAKER_04Uh like football. We do a drill. I'd do it wrong. He says, nope, that's not how you do it. This is how you do it.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's always the one. You're always well baseball, too. He was harder on you. But I think that's I mean, and then Addis's wife, he likes to make an example. You could have yelled at any other parent there. Could have yelled at Justin.
SPEAKER_05I'll I'll do better next time.
SPEAKER_01You're afraid he was gonna beat you up. No, just kidding. Let's move on. Okay, cubby. It's your dad's birthday today. How long have you known your dad?
SPEAKER_04Well, that's wrong. I've known him for about 15 years or more. Ever since I came out the womb, I guess.
SPEAKER_01What's your first memory of your dad?
SPEAKER_04The very first memory I can remember is probably I think he was cutting wood or doing something with wood, and I had my little cop car, and I was driving around on like the sidewalk, and I'd do like a little jump off of it. It was probably like a foot, half foot drop. And then I don't know what got into my head, but I ran into the garage door and there was a bee nest like above it. This is this is trauma.
SPEAKER_05This is trauma memory.
SPEAKER_01It's bee, it is.
SPEAKER_05It was the worst.
SPEAKER_01Do you know how many people have had that memory? Their first memory is getting stung by a bee.
SPEAKER_05Really? Yes, we asked this a lot.
SPEAKER_01Somebody listening who's educationally advanced. You could do a study on this. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_04No, you go ahead. No, I want to hear about you getting stung.
SPEAKER_01Tell us about it. I need details.
SPEAKER_04It felt like I got stung by the whole hive, but he said I only got stung by one. But a bunch of times.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh in the face, right? There was a period that he got stung all the time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he got stung by a lot of wasps. I got stung by one like last summer, but not really anymore.
SPEAKER_01On our dock.
SPEAKER_04That's when I was moving the kayak.
SPEAKER_01No, that's what happens. What is your first memory of me? Because I came into his life when he was three. He was gonna be four. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think you might have took me so on journey to the elementary playground.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that was nice of me.
SPEAKER_04And I remember Sawyer pushing me on the swing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. You should have said that faster.
SPEAKER_04Like a tower or something.
SPEAKER_05Not off the top of the slide.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Pushing me on the swing. Do you remember life before me and your dad were together? Do you remember it with your mom and your dad together?
SPEAKER_04No. I don't remember anything before the bee sting.
SPEAKER_01It's a little blur.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You were pretty young. I mean, I remember him and were you guys married?
SPEAKER_01The bee sting time? Separated? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What is your first memory of the mill? What did you think when we were like, hey, we're gonna buy this old building? What did you think then? Oh, you guys are crazy. You don't know what you guys are doing. What what do you remember that? Do you remember when we were like, hey, we're gonna buy this? I do remember. Because we all came here that one day. I think didn't we all come here with Sissy?
SPEAKER_01I don't remember.
SPEAKER_05Was that the first time that you came? So was Sissy and Or did we all come here together?
SPEAKER_01I don't remember Lindsay being sissy being here. I think and we what are you drinking though? Like you never answered me.
SPEAKER_05Oh, it's good boy. You did say that.
SPEAKER_01He did. Oh sometimes I ask questions and I don't she doesn't listen. I don't have enough room in my brain.
SPEAKER_05She asks the question and then doesn't listen. Okay, so you remember us being crazy. Do you remember walking through here for the first time? Do you remember what it looked like up here?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there was wasn't there was no gap. Right. And there was a third, like little attic type thing. It was a lock. It was pretty cool. It was trashed.
SPEAKER_01It was trash, but it was pretty cool. It would have been a cool study nook. But then it would have got away with all the coolness.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. You wouldn't have been able to see the ceiling as good and wouldn't be so open feeling. Okay. Um do you remember anything else about the Mel?
SPEAKER_04Um, I do remember pulling nails out of boards and you paying me for it.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, he was good at that.
SPEAKER_04I I rung a friend once. Yep. Carson. And Sawyer.
SPEAKER_01And Sawyer.
SPEAKER_04BT helped you one time.
SPEAKER_01Sawyer rink.
SPEAKER_04Carson did uh clutch. Yeah. And hints. Hints too.
SPEAKER_01I can't wait for them to be old guys driving by the mill and then like I pulled nails out of that. You know, and they barely like it was probably like a five-minute job.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, Sawyer and Klutch both came here. Sawyer, I think, helped you cut the grass.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER_01That's when there was a big yard.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, a big yard. Now it's all paved. They rode our their bikes here. Uh-huh. And then we hung out after that. Okay.
SPEAKER_01What do you what are your plans? Like, what do you when are you gonna get a real job? Like, what are you gonna do when you get a real job?
SPEAKER_05A real job.
SPEAKER_01I want to know where you want to live. So, what do you what do you do with your life now?
SPEAKER_04What else do you do? Tell the listeners. Um I have a trash can cleaning business that has been actually working incredibly well.
SPEAKER_05How did that fun listening to our kids taught?
SPEAKER_01Um, it's yeah, it's funny. Um, can you tell us how that grew? That idea girl.
SPEAKER_04Um, so I I developed it off of like TikTok and Mr. Cop's class because he taught me a bunch of like who's Mr.
SPEAKER_01Cop? What does he teach? Tell the listeners.
SPEAKER_04He teaches uh business, marketing, and uh finance, I believe. And he's also the head coach for varsity basketball.
SPEAKER_01He's a good dude. You like him?
SPEAKER_04He's awesome, he's probably my favorite.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_04Or Mr. Semnus.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Get all the names out there before and but you can tell everybody in case the others are listening, they can be your favorite too. You just gotta earn it. Just like favorite kids. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Who was the guy that yelled at you for smiling? And you're like, I just smile in line. Oh, because you left your you lost his key card. You go, stop smiling like that.
SPEAKER_05And cuppy's like, I smile.
SPEAKER_01He's like, I smile. Because he is, he's smiley, always was smiley.
SPEAKER_04I know I wasn't like breaking the rules or anything, so I just was like, whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Think what you wanna tell us about your business then. Okay, so you had that idea between TikTok and Mr. Cops class. And it tell me what that looks like. What does your job look like? So it's your business.
SPEAKER_04I've been working with Nox most of the summer. You'd help me. It's pretty fun because I mean he's either boring and doesn't do anything, or he's like be my best buddy. So yeah, basically my whole process is pressure wash with uh like a higher degree nozzle, I think. So like the white one. And I use a foam cannon with Dawn, spray that out, dump, try to get all the the loose garbage and dirt out, and then I use a multi-purpose cleaner to break the grease, but sometimes that doesn't even get out the grease, so I have to crawl in the bin.
SPEAKER_01And what do you do with those rigs after you clean them?
SPEAKER_04Um well I I just I used to dome in the dome in uh laundry with your clothes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then all of a sudden I pull them out.
SPEAKER_04I'm like, is this this is not gonna happen?
SPEAKER_01This is not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04Actually, I accidentally did that at my mom's house.
SPEAKER_01Did she say this isn't gonna happen?
SPEAKER_04The soap was about to overflow.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yeah, did she yell at you?
SPEAKER_04She was not happy.
SPEAKER_01No, you but you don't use those anymore. You use disposable ones, yeah. Which isn't great for the environment, but great for our life.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01How do you advertise your business? Like if someone wants to get a hold of you, what would they do?
SPEAKER_04Uh I have my number on some pictures on Facebook, flyers, or they can just text me, message to Facebook.
SPEAKER_01And what's your Facebook handle name? What's the what's the name of the what's the name of your business? You forgot?
SPEAKER_04I already forgot.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_04Bins.
SPEAKER_01Pristine bins? Don't forget your business again.
SPEAKER_04I know. It's been a while.
SPEAKER_01And what have you been lacking in that area?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, probably marketing.
SPEAKER_01Hell yes, marketing. Because people don't know what they need until you tell them what they need. It's big, it's important in a business is to like let people know hey, your bins stink, your neighbor told me. And you you do a great job.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Have you done uh anything else with with uh pressure washing?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, good question.
SPEAKER_05That's a great question. Um
SPEAKER_01We have to bait him in every conversation. It's like pulling teeth with this kid.
SPEAKER_04I've done a bit of siding, did our own house. Um, I've done Mrs. Sorley's. I've done my aunt's. Uh I've also done like driveways to concrete.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I haven't I haven't really mentioned that actually. I have a surface pressure washer cleaner, so it gets rid of moss.
SPEAKER_01Did you do that to our front porch? It looks so good, Cubby. We have to pay you for that, yeah. Yeah, no, it does. I said that last night. I said, did he wash like the floor? Like everything looks really good.
SPEAKER_05It must work pretty good, huh? That makes a big difference.
SPEAKER_01It does. And it's a pain. It's easy to have hire someone to do it. And people don't have that equipment. A lot of people don't, or time, or want to do it.
SPEAKER_05How much do you think you have invested in your equipment and like cleaner and stuff?
SPEAKER_04Um well, I paid everything off pretty quick, but it's just about buying the soaps now because I run out really fast.
SPEAKER_01Where are you getting your soaps now?
SPEAKER_04Amazon. I haven't bought anything new really, but I'm almost out of purpose cleaner, the green stuff. Um how much do you think you have invested total? Well, I started off when I bought everything. I only bought one of each soap, and it was like $350.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_05With the pressure washer. Your way again.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. I thought you were saying soap.
SPEAKER_05So now probably total, you think like $500, maybe? Like $450. Well, what how much was that floor cleaner thing?
SPEAKER_04Oh, that was $40. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Do you have any jobs this week?
SPEAKER_04I do not.
SPEAKER_01Why? You need to advertise.
SPEAKER_04Pushing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you need to be pushing it. It's gonna die. Like Journey's sweatshirt business.
SPEAKER_04How much do you think you've made? Um, I know exactly how much I've made.
SPEAKER_01How much? That's good that you know that. Yeah, I don't even know how much we make.
SPEAKER_04About a thousand five hundred. Like above your investment.
SPEAKER_05That's good.
SPEAKER_01And you hardly work.
SPEAKER_04It's easy. It takes 30 minutes.
SPEAKER_01Well, do it. Get going, Mister. Thank you. The season's almost over.
SPEAKER_02Kimmy, do you have a question for him? I do. So, do you take videos of like before and after of your life? You do a lot of those, actually. Those are so satisfying.
SPEAKER_01I told him that like if he set up a camera to watch the whole process of it, it is I would watch the whole thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I need like a tripod, something like that. I think she has one. Like a tall one. I think she has one.
SPEAKER_01Order one.
SPEAKER_04I don't have one.
SPEAKER_01I don't have I don't I have a like a ring light, but it's crap. Oh. What is it like? What is it like to have Keith as your dad? Can you tell me that? Since it's his birthday, I kind of want to put him in the lake.
SPEAKER_04He's probably pushed me to make the greatest man slash, I don't know, boy I could be by making me do stuff that I don't want to do so I can be better at it. Can you give me an example of that?
SPEAKER_05I feel like everything feel like there's an easy one that you could pick from. You'd be like, yeah, I'm really glad.
SPEAKER_01That was a tough, that was a tough decision.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01For all of us.
SPEAKER_05So us as parents, I want to start by saying, like, we don't we let our kids for the most part pick their own future, right? But you've got to help them guide them a little.
SPEAKER_01And it like Jury wanted to be Beyonce, so we had to guide her over.
SPEAKER_05There's times. There's times where you know that you know your kids more than they know themselves, because you see them from a different perspective. And there's some times where even though they choose to do something, you're like, oh, that's a bad idea, but we're gonna let it ride because they're gonna learn from it.
SPEAKER_01And then Sawyer, like everything with Sawyer lately.
SPEAKER_05Oh god. And then there's other times where they choose something and you're like, no, like that's not okay. Like this is gonna really, you're gonna, you're gonna regret this. Like, I know that. So there was a time recently that he made a decision and I told him, no.
SPEAKER_01No. Can I tell you exactly how it was?
SPEAKER_05How long ago was that?
SPEAKER_01I actually felt bad.
SPEAKER_05A year ago.
SPEAKER_01I actually felt bad for him. He goes, he was running and he was lifting a lot. And he goes, I don't want to play football. And I'm like, he's like, you're playing football. And then it was like he had a great pitch.
SPEAKER_05Getting a sales pitch.
SPEAKER_01Listen, it was it was it was a very hard, it was very hard. You and I had late night conversations about it. I'm like, either he's gonna go to therapy for this, or he's gonna think. Or he's gonna he's gonna thank us for it. Yeah, but it was very difficult because we were, I was standing in the kitchen, Andy was sitting at the bar, the breakfast bar, and you said, You're playing. I don't give a you're playing. Because he had this, he pitched, he's like, I'm gonna do cross country. And I'm like, What are you looking for dead bodies? What are you running from? We're not going to cross country meets. And um, and then he was in, I'm gonna lift and I'm gonna get into like competitive lifting and all this stuff. And he's like, I'm gonna stay active. I'm not in like you were just kind of standing there looking at him like and and and you said, How come Sawyer and Dernie could quit sports in high school and I can't? And you're like, it's different. You're playing, is what you said. And I'm like, You're like, you're like, I don't care, you're fing playing. You're gonna thank me for this. And I'm like, wow, dick.
SPEAKER_05How long did it take for you to thank me?
SPEAKER_01It was still doing so it was still it was let's let's take everybody off the edge of their seats here.
SPEAKER_05Like how long week one, like a week?
SPEAKER_04No, not even it was probably until like after like the first varsity game or the second week. Friday night lights, you said it's a whole nother feeling, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01But actually, after week two, I remember you saying, I'm I'm happy I'm in it. And I'm like, it's still brutal. Like practice is wicked in the beginning of season, and he was happy already.
SPEAKER_05So, like, that was an instance where I know your competitive nature, like, and I know how much you invest your time in a sports, and football is one of those things you really don't want to miss out on, and you're never gonna play it again. But also on the other note, how many old fat people do you know that still complain about they don't have to be fat, but older people do you know that's probably part of the reason I know where you're going with ankle hurts from football, yes, football injuries, football injuries, football injuries are not always worth it. Well, if they didn't have it, they'd have nothing to talk about. So carry on. Cammy, did you have a question?
SPEAKER_02Why didn't you want to do football?
SPEAKER_04Um, I think the biggest let him no, no, you can continue.
SPEAKER_01No, he's a man, a few words, and I want him to give me an idea to talk about that. No, you don't you need to think for yourself.
SPEAKER_05I think I think it was a kind of a trend at the time.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because how many people actually signed up for football from the freshman group? Like three.
SPEAKER_01It was bad.
SPEAKER_05All of you were talking about it, talking about not playing, and I think that's a big reason why. And now you get a whole yeah, you went from so and that's and they were good, yeah. You went from there was probably 20 some kids, 20 some boys that played football with sixth graders, and then it just dwindled.
SPEAKER_01There's there might be reasons we can't pinpoint one or the other, but something happened from in middle school, yeah. Yeah, that the interest shifted with all the kids, and they weren't winning games, and when you don't win, it sucks, and it's less fun.
SPEAKER_05It's hard getting your teeth.
SPEAKER_01It was a it was weird to watch them play because I'm like, what is happening? Because they were you guys are pretty athletic, your grade is pretty good, but you didn't like being on the line either. No, but tough, get fast.
SPEAKER_05I don't know, but I think you'll do just fine wherever you play. I'll do just fine.
SPEAKER_02I'll pray for you. So is that why you didn't want to do football?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's probably a main reason.
SPEAKER_02Which one?
SPEAKER_04The one you said. The the friends, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Is there another reason?
SPEAKER_04Um, I think I was kind of scared a little bit. I didn't know what to expect. Everybody said it was like horrible. Like the practice had to start, but I don't know. At the end it was kind of like awesome. It was fun.
SPEAKER_01There's there's nothing like playing underneath Friday. And I know that's such a stupid saying now, but like pretend it's not a movie, but underneath Friday Night Lights is is something so cool. And then like that's when you feel it, like, this is cool. Like, I know I'm they write country songs about it.
SPEAKER_04I know I'm not like a starter, and I'm not always under the lights, technically in the middle, but even playing at the end of the games for two plays, still awesome. Yeah, even though I feel like I was in the NFL game.
SPEAKER_00That's cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that is a cool feeling.
SPEAKER_05You'll come to find throughout your life that the hardest things that you ever accomplish are usually the ones that are the most meaningful and that you'll learn from, and that you'll be excited to share with your friends when you're older. You're gonna be like, Oh my shoulder.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my dad made me my dad made me I wanted to ruin in the woods and look for dead people, and my dad said no. He said, I have to play the foosball with my friends, my daddy said no.
SPEAKER_05It's so true though.
SPEAKER_01The hard it's the hard that you do that are also know that as parents, that was really hard on us too to make you, but we knew it.
SPEAKER_05Like, like I knew it and everything in my being.
SPEAKER_01He did feel really bad about it. And I'm like, Do you feel bad about it? You're like, Yeah, I'm sick. I don't want to like force him to play it. But we said, if you still hate it after this year, then you can quit. That was the thing. You left that part up because you knew once he would be out there, he would love it.
SPEAKER_05And think about how every year now it just like gets easier because you're bigger, and picture running through the woods. How dumb that would be.
SPEAKER_01I you know, granted, it's not dumb.
SPEAKER_05No offense to the people like the run and they're good at it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and that that's a lifelong thing you can do. He's not gonna be able to play football. But I mean, like, I don't want to chase a kid in the woods, I don't want to chase a dog, I don't want to run.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm happy I didn't because that'd be like the exact opposite of what I wanna do.
SPEAKER_01You wouldn't be game, you wouldn't be big, you'd be a runner, at least skinny, like leaning.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to be that yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01So what else? Tell me something else about your dad. Your dad totally took over that.
SPEAKER_04Um well he coached me through football and baseball ever since I was probably started. And you coached me through T-ball, right? And Seymour.
SPEAKER_01When I met you, you had a ball hanging from the ceiling, and like I said, you were almost four, but three. And you would hit that thing. You were pitching to him, hitting with him since you was little. Okay, that's all. Go on.
SPEAKER_04I'd also hit uh hang ball at Papa's all the time, too. I'd sit out there until it broke. Yep.
SPEAKER_01They're good grandparents, aren't they?
SPEAKER_04They're awesome.
SPEAKER_01Aren't you happy they live next door?
SPEAKER_04That gives us a way for Nash to escape for food.
SPEAKER_01Now she'll be like, I'm going to grandmas. And then he'll come back with cookies and like we're like, yep, we know you are. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Uh, why is baseball your favorite? Or is it your favorite?
SPEAKER_04It is my favorite.
SPEAKER_01Probably because it's baseball season. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's what we are ongoing jokers. Every time, every time we ask him, it's whatever sport's going on at the time.
SPEAKER_01Since you were little.
SPEAKER_04Because I can't play the other one.
SPEAKER_01But but I think baseball might be his favorite.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I was waiting for that like the whole year.
SPEAKER_01Baseball?
SPEAKER_04Probably it's my favorite because it's like the first sport ever got introduced to me.
SPEAKER_01Oh and you're good. He hit some dingers last night.
SPEAKER_04Not really. They were just good hitballs.
SPEAKER_01What is a dinger?
SPEAKER_04A home run.
SPEAKER_01Oh, is it? Oh. I thought it was just a good hit.
SPEAKER_04Their place good.
SPEAKER_01What can you tell me about what it's like, your perspective? Because we asked Sawyer and Journey this too, of living in a divided or like blended family.
SPEAKER_04So sometimes it could be complicated, like between conflicts of what the other person thinks and what the other person doesn't think. When you say other person, you mean parents or kids? Parents. Okay. Because they want things the other person doesn't want that thing. And they you know sometimes even fight about it. But yeah, that's probably the bad thing about it, but you also have two sides of families where I don't know, I think that came to mind was double Christmas presents stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Then you have like a larger network of support. Like think of like when you're even now, like the amount of people that come to your games and watch you. And yeah, definitely got a lot of supportive people around you.
SPEAKER_01Who's your favorite sibling?
SPEAKER_05Nox.
unknownGod.
SPEAKER_01Him, I'm telling you, Nox and him have this like they've always been buddies.
SPEAKER_05Remember, remember when he was a baby?
SPEAKER_01Like you would hold them and read to him all the time. He's yeah, you guys have always been buddies.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I do everything with him. And he copies of me all the time. Yeah. Sometimes it kind of makes me mad.
SPEAKER_01Do you remember when he's like, I don't want to play football? We're like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05After he said that.
SPEAKER_01I just don't want to. I'll run. We're like, what? Even running as an option for you. I'll lift weights.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he always wants to lift with me.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_04Play video games with me.
SPEAKER_05So what does what does that tell you about how you gotta carry yourself?
SPEAKER_04Because you got um, you gotta be like a good like what's the word for it?
SPEAKER_01Role model?
SPEAKER_04Role model from if he's gonna do if you have a brother that or sister that's gonna do everything you do, you gotta be like your best at all times. So they're not bad at all.
SPEAKER_01You do a really good job at that. We always talk about what a great brother you are.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you're a good big brother.
SPEAKER_01How do you feel about Nash? Um, do you think anybody favors Nash? I feel bad for him. He's gonna just live with me forever.
SPEAKER_04With all with all cats, with a lot of cats. Yeah, um he's interesting. I don't do a whole lot with him, like Nox wise, but I still because Nash doesn't give a shit.
SPEAKER_01Like he doesn't wanna.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he wants to do his own thing. Yeah, he wants to go to grandma's. He knocks will go downstairs and go play or like lift, and then was Nash, he's like, No, I don't want to.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to play anymore.
SPEAKER_04I'll stay up here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What other questions do you have from Cammie? What are your two favorite qualities about Cubby?
SPEAKER_01I would say his heart. Like he has a really good heart. He's very I always say that's he's all his mom and dad. Not saying I don't have a heart, but Keith is very soft and kind, and so is is Cubby's mom. They're both like big-hearted, right? You can say that big-hearted people, very soft and kind. So like I would never I would be very surprised if someone told me Cubby like was hurtful intentionally to someone. I'm like, no, he's just not, he's kind to everybody and like doesn't care about what's supposed to be cool or not. And like he doesn't give a shit what people think. I love that too. And that's a hard quality to have at that age because usually that's when it's the worst. Yeah, like you're always worried about other people think he doesn't care, and he has good friends too. Like his his group of guys are good.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, I work with them all the time. So it makes work fun.
SPEAKER_01That's my favorite, is his heart.
SPEAKER_05I would probably say that too, but I don't want to steal her stealing.
SPEAKER_01You can. It's a it's a it's probably the most obvious.
SPEAKER_05I would say the next one would be like his um like I don't want to say dedication, but like his ability to accomplish things. Like in like higher what I would say most kids probably wouldn't follow through with. Like an example would be like football. When he's told to do something, you can tell like he doesn't really want to do it right, and how much of effort is he really gonna put forward right off the bat. I know even though he didn't want to do it, and I told him he had to do it, he was gonna put a lot of effort in. Um and like I think that's probably what's gonna carry him to be successful, and he doesn't even know what he's capable of yet.
SPEAKER_01That's what I in his yes, sir attitude, like as far as coaching him. Yeah, like he will do what you tell him to do, and he's not gonna complain. Like he is obedient, isn't gonna talk back. He'll use tones with me, and it's not even talking back. Like, would you say maybe don't say baby? Like, yeah, that was a different story. Um, yeah, he's a good kid. He's definitely our favorite lately.
SPEAKER_05Like, we're just starting to get little glimpses of what his personality is, and he's funny because for a little while there, it was like it was rough, and like just like we didn't know how all boys go through this transitioning period where like you talk to them and they like just blank stare at you. I'm waiting for a response. And there's a few times where I would get mad at him and I'd yell, like, I need you to answer me.
SPEAKER_01He's like, Well, I I didn't know, like, I don't know you want me to answer.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we're like, say you're gonna talk. Yeah, or nice talk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, nice talk talk, good talk, or like you accidentally hurt your brother, and they would be crying and you'd be staring at him.
SPEAKER_05Can you say I didn't mean to?
SPEAKER_01We're like, Well, see console, yeah. You grew out of that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's so we're getting glimpses of what his personality is gonna look like, and it he's definitely gotten a lot more funny.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, he's funny. He told um our supervisor on the weekend that because the recycling wasn't picked up sometimes. The recycling they can't get to it if the parking lot's full, so they don't pick it up. Well, some of our staff decided just to stack all the boxes unbroken down, taller than the dumpster, right next to it. And Nikki asked, the supervisor asked, and cubby's like, Yeah, I guess my parents didn't pay their recycling bill this week. So he's like, You can be funny.
SPEAKER_04She thought I was being for real. And I'm like, she's like, You serious? I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_01So what do you want to do when you get old? Like, what is it? What do you see where do you see yourself living and doing? So we can timestamp this and see how you change.
SPEAKER_04I recently, or like in the past years, I envisioned myself living in you know, Florida or California, doing being like an oceanographer or something related with the ocean, maybe even navy. I still kind of want to do that. The navy the college paid off for. But now that I think like of like the people here. And I don't know. I also don't want to deal with the weather. And what weather?
SPEAKER_01You don't want to deal with the Wisconsin weather or the hurricanes.
SPEAKER_04Oh. And we're not.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, and I What do you mean when you think about the people here?
SPEAKER_04Like you'll miss the people or And I know the people here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So you want to work in w with water?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I did, but I also want to kind of stay here and have my own business.
SPEAKER_00Like what?
SPEAKER_04Well, I don't know if I want to do like a What would you call this is this like a service or uh like what would you call it? This no yeah, it's it's a service, service industry. I think I want to do like uh something with landscaping.
SPEAKER_01Oh, step aside, Grudzinger. No, no one can't.
SPEAKER_04But yeah, I want to do something with outside and like I can see you doing that.
SPEAKER_05So you took you told me something just recently, and we didn't have a chance to talk about it much, and I kind of forgot about it since then. But you you said something like um you wanted to try to do like a different business of your own each summer. So what is that's true?
SPEAKER_01That's an entrepreneur mind. We were just talking about that last night because like we're talking about somebody that has like seven business plans and like all kind of starting. I'm like, that's that makes sense. That's an entrepreneur, like, but wait, this and this and this and this.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. There's so many ideas that come to mind.
SPEAKER_01You can do them all.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Now's a great time to kind of learn from that. So, what what does next summer look like?
SPEAKER_04Um, what are you thinking about doing? I don't have it totally planned out because I still want to like take a while to like deeply think about it and know exactly how it's gonna work. But I I might do like a full-time job next summer. Like I've thought about working at like KI, maybe I know Sawyer did, but like I just know I need to work more than I do right now.
SPEAKER_01So why don't you work more for yourself instead of another business? Because look how much money you can make with bins, right? Like I I like that thought process, but you are capable of making a lot of money for your own self and your own hours. It's proven. Look how much you've made and you've hardly worked. If you just like marketed a little bit more, you would have more bookings. But go ahead, go work at KI, work for someone else.
SPEAKER_05Or not it's actually a really good experience to go work somewhere else. Because then, like I just talked to Bella about this because she's working at KI. She's like, it really makes me appreciate my like my other jobs. Because you know what and KI's not a bad place to work, no, they treat you so well.
SPEAKER_01They treat their employees really good, and that's why I did a long side because they they pay them well, they're flexible, and we lose people to KI sometimes when they want when they want full-time jobs and benefits, yeah. Which I understand. So go ahead, go to KI. Where are you gonna live? It's getting hard. I live with my mom. Anything else?
SPEAKER_04Uh no, really.
SPEAKER_05Do you have anything else?
SPEAKER_01He's a man of few words. It's we he's getting more. We're getting more out of him, though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this is more than they talked you up to have, so this is great. Uh, what is your favorite part about living within the Fisher household?
SPEAKER_04Um that's a unique thing to ask. I don't know, there's a lot of things to like do outside, I guess you could say. I don't know how else to put it. Um yeah, I could do anything with knocks outside. I could you know go play baseball in the big field. Do you feel like it's ever quiet at our house?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_05Like inside, like family? No, no, that's there's a lot of people there, usually, right?
SPEAKER_01Sawyer said in basic training that's what he missed the most. And when he went away to college was the loud of being in a house full of people.
SPEAKER_04Okay, see their see their dogs barking or fighting, cats saying uh Nash blasting TV. Mom yelling.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's very seldom quiet in our house. And uh the chaos, not just like the actual noise, but the constant on the go. Like we're moving, we're doing something all the time. We don't, you know, not just sitting around like lazy bones is like we're always moving.
SPEAKER_01I I think we're wrapping it up. I think I think we we we got everything out of you. Yeah, I think that's all he's got.
SPEAKER_05Do you got anything left to say?
SPEAKER_04If there's one thing in the fish household that I love to do is probably teach Nox everything I know. So he learns everything before everybody else. And he's better than everyone because it's kind of my goal.
SPEAKER_01To get him better swimming.
SPEAKER_04Swimming, he's already better than you were. Next summer is gonna be able to swim underwater with his eyes open.
SPEAKER_01Well, he because the swimming thing, Cubby took credit for. He's like, Well, that's because of me. You're swimming faster and better because I taught you earlier than I was taught, which is true, and I think a lot to do is Nox wants to do everything you're doing, so he's gonna try everything he does. And like that's how I explain when Nox goes to friends' houses. I'm like, he they're like, he's like mature. I'm like, because he plays with cubby. You know what I mean? So kids his age aren't immature, Nox is just kind of mature.
SPEAKER_04So it kind of listens to me and he like connects like the mood and like how he acts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You're you're a really good brother to him. You think you guys are gonna live together one day?
SPEAKER_04I would say it like that, but he's probably gonna want to live right next to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, come on. I bought a house right across the street.
SPEAKER_04Well, come have dinner with me.
SPEAKER_01Every single night. Well, thanks for coming on and letting us take you for today.
SPEAKER_04It was awesome. Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_01It was a good surprise. Your dad was happy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like he got jump scared. Well, thanks everybody for watching.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we'll see you next Tuesday. Help me freely walk in your heart.