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The Preacher's Wife
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Meet our friend Lisa Sorlie. Our pastor Keith Sorlie's wife. And she is so much more than just a pastor's wife.
Lisa has donated a kidney, worked in public service for a number of years, been an amazing middle school teacher, an incredible mom, and so much more.
She's a good one and we love her.
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Tell me freely what's in your heart.
SPEAKER_07That's a good one. She's a fan just.
SPEAKER_00She's a fan. You are feeling close. You tell me. You know, don't feel green. Tell me, freely one.
SPEAKER_03Hi, my name is Nicole Fisher, and this is my husband. Keith Fisher.
SPEAKER_06Start over.
SPEAKER_03Keith. We have a very special guest today. Her name is Lisa Sorley. And that name might be ringing a bell because this is the Keith Sorley's wife.
SPEAKER_04I do have some identity of my own. Yes, I do. Mostly I'm Keith's wife, Kayla's mom, Faith's mom, but some identity of mine. Yes.
SPEAKER_06I think so. You're like a legend here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. He talked highly of her too.
SPEAKER_06All of all of our kids love you. All the kids love you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Um always feel that way, but it did you get burnt out at the end? Like, how was it at the end of a teaching career? How many years did you teach? Let's just dive into it.
SPEAKER_06Or have you been?
SPEAKER_0422 years teaching, but over 30 years in public service. And I don't what I told the kids is I don't want somebody slower in front of them, somebody who's losing energy. And by the end of the day, I could tell that my energy was waning. Uh, because when you have your break to do your prep, there's kids that need help, right? So you just never have a moment of peace. And I I need that to recharge. Yeah, so do I. So oh my god, yeah, that would be exhausting. And I just, it's not fair to seventh hour and eighth hour.
SPEAKER_06Right. When the batteries dwindling.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're like, oh, you just threw a wet sock. Actually happened. Really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Can you talk about that or no?
SPEAKER_04Sure. Uh student who will remain nameless. I'm looking at you.
SPEAKER_07No way you are.
SPEAKER_04Um, it he would wear crocs and socks, and then in winter his feet would get wet from the snow. And then he took them off in science class because they were uncomfortable and his partner whipped it. And I was actually helping the student. I'm just like, nah. But I think first hour I would have been like, never thought that could happen in my career by you know seventh and eighth hour. I'm like, who threw this back? Did you throw it back at them? Uh no. But when I don't I have a issue and I like need to get better at it because it's human nature. Um, I I'm not a fan of fibbing slash lying. Oh yeah. Makes me crazy. Like just get to the truth and move on. And when the student that did it backpedaled and fibbed, um it's one of those things that it's like we could have had a ring camera and he still would have fibbed, right? Um, because it's a little bit embarrassing. It was a pulsive moment. I went to his coach. Oh sh. No, you are if you're a student athlete, yeah. You're student first, yeah, you know, but I mean it affected nothing. I think he probably still started or whatever, you know what I mean? It affected nothing, but I just wanted him to know that it's that's just not becoming of an athlete, in my opinion, as a former athlete. Right.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, let's dive into it. Yeah, let's. I mean, we already into it, but like I feel like there's so much depth to Lisa.
SPEAKER_06So Lisa, it's very important for me to ask you this question. And she knows all we go to questions. No, she doesn't. This is a new one because I want your version of events, of how you met Mr. Keith Sorley.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
SPEAKER_06So um I I would call it You remember his version of events, right?
SPEAKER_04They're mildly correct.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04Um, I would like to tell my girls that I somehow they came up with the their imagination and they will die on this hill that we said that Keith was choking on a chicken bone, and I gave him the Heimlich and I saved him. And I kind of like that, but it's that's totally funny. That's a good one. Yeah, we were on the way up north and we're listening to Disney. They have like all these details, and it's like, well, no, never mind. I could see you saying that though to be funny. Maybe I I just don't recall.
SPEAKER_03Because you're witty like that, so I could see you being like, Thank you.
SPEAKER_04So, what happened was we were going to a party at UW Milwaukee, and there was an unpredicted ice storm on the way. So we got to Waukesha because my college roommate's kid brother was there and we're dropping something off. I don't even remember what it was. We were gonna say hi and then like keep moving. And we barely got up like a slope kind of over by American Family Field. Yeah, Miller Park.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, we stuck up.
SPEAKER_04Okay, thank you. Yeah, um, up the hill. It's like we barely got up there, and I so you know that I had lost my brother to a traffic accident when I was young, and I I don't like in fact, that's why I'm not a trooper. I didn't so I qualified to be a trooper, and I'm like, I don't like icy roads.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, wait, time out what you were gonna be a state trooper.
SPEAKER_04Um, yeah. I I qualified for it, but then I had the choice of being a dispatcher and a state trooper, and I'm like, I'd really rather be a dispatcher. And the lieutenant at the time goes, You understand that most people tried to be a dispatcher to get into, and I'm like, Yep, I understand that. I also understand that I don't like icy roads.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, that's smart that you figured that out right away. So but I could still you would have been a really good copy. I'd be like really slow to the accident. Oh, it's slippery. Yeah, you got your little ice shoes on with those little spikes.
SPEAKER_04Yep. So then um Keith was working, and one of the things that they used to do, uh, because his boss also was on Huber, the manager, he worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken. And at the end of the day, any leftover food they could take back to college or the dorm. So they'd always like put in a fresh batch right at the end of the ship. Yeah, so like in comes in a guy with five earrings, a mullet, chicken and mashed potatoes. But I did ask him like what sometime during that weekend, because we ended up sleeping over in Corey's room and because we just weren't gonna move on because I I had the car and I said no. Um I with the mullet in the that was eat the mullet? Yeah, and he actually was quite handsome in it. I'll find a picture.
SPEAKER_06Please do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, quite handsome, yeah. I at one point I asked him, like, what you trying to prove here? Like, what's all happening? And he said, I want to be a cop one day, so I thought I should get it out of my system just in case it never like would get into a system. And the thing that um really caught me, uh first of all, I'm a a voice person. I like voices, like your laugh. I want it to be a frickin' ringtone in the morning. Uh really love that laugh.
SPEAKER_06Doesn't she have the best laugh?
SPEAKER_03I think it's a cackle, like a college.
SPEAKER_04I love it. Oh, thank you. Thank you. So um, then the other thing is on Sunday morning they had this big group room, I think he told you about, like they shared it between multiple roommates. He kicked everybody out because after church his parents call. And that's what I was like, that really means something to him.
SPEAKER_03That's a priority, and that's important. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_04And yes, Keith number three was there. Blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's right. There was a keith. I thought that's what you're getting for. I forgot about Keith number three. You didn't look at him. People don't forget, like Keith. And so what was Keith number, what is Keith number three doing right now?
SPEAKER_04Um, I really didn't follow up on that, except for Keith has some amazing talents, so creative. It like he could play a piano by ear. So one day he just goes up to this whole piano at his house and he starts playing the theme, the Star Wars. And I was like, that's what I was like.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_04And like I love fell for that too. I also love creativity, right? And then the other thing is he has a love for animals, so I'm sure that is I know that he was going for art because he's very artistic. I know he's going for art, but I don't I know that he does something with animals or had for a while.
SPEAKER_03He's wild today. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_04Are you fixing teeth down there?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's a one-stop shop here.
SPEAKER_03Okay, sorry. So you said it his love for animals. You know he was that's keep number three. Yep. This is intentional.
SPEAKER_04I was gonna say, this is almost like they have a business here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like okay.
SPEAKER_06Just want to steal the show. Nobody wants to be on the podcast, but they want to make a bunch of noise.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll get one of them. Um okay, proceed.
SPEAKER_06Is that the end of the story? Uh yeah, I'm not sure. The Keith story?
SPEAKER_03I think Keith's your Keith, number one, said he's a veterinarian assistant. Yeah, or he was, but I think that I think he keeps better tabs on this Keith than you do. I could totally see that, but I don't. Oh, I'm lying. I'm just not anyway. What is that guy up to? Yeah. Still better. He's like on C CAP. Any crimes he committed. Yeah. Lisa still did better with me. Yeah. All right, let's talk about if you die, what would it be the thing that you would want to be known for? Like on your tombstone, if it could be long, not just like wife, mother, blah blah blah, friend. What is something I wish I wish it would say, hey, she got her poop in a group before she died, but that's not gonna happen. Do whatever you want. You could you could have them say that now it's on the record, so your kids might listen. But what is what is because you mom got her poop in a group. Because you we'll get to this, but she donated her kidney, she's an amazing teacher, she is an amazing human, uh, friend, pastor's wife, loving, like there's you're an amazing person.
SPEAKER_06It's really hard to um explain you to people that don't know you, yeah. Because it's so evident in your connections with people, and you probably know this already. Maybe you don't, maybe it's just a nice refreshing perspective of my viewpoint. You're gonna have to make her keep her mouth shut though, because she's gonna she doesn't take compliments well with kids and like not just our own, but everybody, every kid, yeah, you just have this way of like genuinely caring for somebody so quick, and it and they just like kids love that.
SPEAKER_03It's genuine too, yeah. It absolutely is. You'll get to their level and you make them like and we're using our kids as examples because we see it like Nash, I miss you. Where have you been? You know what I mean? Like it's such a like passionate, and you are like that with every single person and child that I don't know. I do like kids more than people. No kids, yeah. No, I get it. I like animals more than kids, yeah, people. But yeah, so I mean, with saying giving a little teasers to everybody about who you are, what what would what do you take most most pride in of who you are and what you've done?
SPEAKER_04Um, I think that I try. Like, um, one time, Keith, you said you something that irks you, irk is a cool short word, yeah, um, is laziness. And that gets right under my skin as well. So I wish I had your stick to itiveness with things like, hey, I'm gonna build the mill and we're gonna, it's 2020 and I'm gonna buy this, and you've turned this into this beautiful.
SPEAKER_03Why are you making this about us? What do you like about you?
SPEAKER_04What do you like about yourself, Lisa? But um, like for for me, everything I do is a little bit more uphill because I my brain doesn't like work as fast. So I am sure that the job I took last year should have been like a 60 hour a week job, and not Lisa, wasn't 70 hours a week. It's like yeah, but I've got a lot done. So you're overachieved. Oh, I don't know about that. I looked at some of my work from fall and I'm like, okay, I was on medicine for the next, so that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, you get a bad play back play that yeah, it collapsed.
SPEAKER_03So you would say you're you choose um I try to do what I say and say what I do. You do it, yeah. Yeah, that's very, very true. That's why I'm sitting in this chair. Yeah, you almost left, but Rhonda Yulman's like, get her up there and don't let her down. I'm like, she's not going anywhere. Um this is a loud one too. What is happening today?
SPEAKER_06Everything's loud.
SPEAKER_04So, yeah, there's just a lot to balance with. I mean, I really care for my parents. My dad has passed away 30 years ago. Um, my mom, the lover of the mill sweatshirt.
SPEAKER_03Aww. And how old's your mom? And she's like witty and and all with it, isn't she?
SPEAKER_04She's getting a little crabier as the days go on, but I'm pretty sure it's me. Oh, really? Like I ran out of string with the weed whacker the other day, and I could just see it in her eyes. Like, only you would forget to bring string, you know what I mean? Like, I could just see it, like I'd read it on her face, and it's like, I'll be back. Yeah, that's I got most of it done. It's nuts. It's I mean, she has high expectations. Yeah. So yeah, she's 98 next month.
SPEAKER_03What was the um what was the story? And I don't know if you're even comfortable with sharing that story, because I feel like it was a really personal, and you said it in a a Bible study we had about something growing in the sunroom. Oh, rec room. Rec room. Can you tell that story? Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04It's absolutely okay. So um after dad had passed away, now you've lost a child, and you've lost your husband.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so how how far apart was that when she lost her son and husband?
SPEAKER_04Uh let me think. I was 10 when my brother was killed in a car wreck. I was 30 years ago. So almost 30 when dad died, and they both died without saying goodbye. But now, as I see people that struggle, like it's so hard on us, but for the person you love, they get to be with God right away. They don't have to have their family worry about them, and who doesn't, right? So, anyway, um, you can. I mean, I I thought I understood it, like how hard it would be to lose a child. You don't until you have a child. You have no idea. In fact, the whole part with like God and Jesus, like, oh, he gave his one begotten son, and now that I'm a parent, I'm like, oh, that's right, because more of things you love just walking right outside your heart and right into the world, and now like I get it more. Um, so she was in a very low spot, and uh my mom rarely swears, but she does drop the H word every once in a while. Like she she hell, she goes, Yeah, yeah, as as she told the story. Yeah, yeah, hermit, Henry. I was like, is hell a swear word? Yeah, really. But so we had uh a furnace that was a wood furnace, so she would go and put some wood in, and you always get this like puff of smoke, right? When you open up the door. So she opens it up, and through that scent, she smells something else. And we hadn't the the Christmas before I need to backtrack just a little bit because her heart was broken. We always had Christmas in this rec room because David had helped build it with dad right before he passed away. Like I think it was opened in 1977 or early 70, and he died in 1978. So I mean it's super special. It's not just that it's a meeting place, it's a special thing. Yeah, so we always had Christmas in there, and one year she just put a dead branch in like a holder, and she did put some lights on it, and that's what it was. It was just a dead branch out of nowhere. So now fast forward to about Easter, which I didn't even put together initially, um, where the spring can be kind of warm, and then you have a cold day, and she's down there and she's putting in some wood and she gets this big puff of smoke. And through that, she smells something in her words. She's like, I'm like, oh now, what the hell? And she hadn't been in that room because we like my niece, who's closer in age to me than my sister. Um, I consider her like more of my sibling. She is like, Grandma, we're not gonna have Christmas here. And we we went upstairs and we had Christmas up there in the living room, and we did the best we could, as people do. So she's back to the scent. Oh now, what the hell? She opens up the door, and on the dead branch are four huge white lilacs, no water. How many months? Yeah. I mean, it was just a dead. I mean, I don't even know if she knew what kind of branch it was. Oh my god. And she yeah, and she does, she she did or does. I'm trying to think it was um weed whack, right? Um, she did have a lilac tree because I know that my lilac trees are from hers. So yeah, she had four white big lilacs, and she said, I think that's a sign that I need to be here and do my best for my four remaining children. Oh, I have so many goosebumps. And that when I tell my Sunday school students, I can prove because I had that picture. But um, the other one I got no proof. So she was putting that branch in the wood stove? No, no, no. It she that was the Christmas tree. Yeah, oh and the wood stove, I just for logistics, um, is in the next room in the basement. So you go down the steps, the wood stove is on the left, and you have to go around to the rec room. So with the door shut, with a puff of smoke, she smelled something and was, oh, what the hell now?
SPEAKER_03It's a sign. Oh my god, that's such an intense story.
SPEAKER_06That's cool.
SPEAKER_03On the lighter side, yeah. Okay, now that we got that out. Um, Keith, what do you have any questions for her?
SPEAKER_06Oh, so many.
SPEAKER_04So, what's my first memory without a picture?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but she might want it.
SPEAKER_06She might want that one. Were you prepared for that one? Do you want that?
SPEAKER_04I only have one. Yeah, go ahead with it. Um don't say no to people when they're when they bring it up. I just like, oh, what's he gonna ask me? And then he's gonna ask me about Spotnik. Um, so my earliest memory, I believe I was four, and we we were always so blessed growing up. We were not wealthy, we had everything we needed, right? So my parents are my dad was World War II. He went in before he was 18, his brothers were there. And um, long story short, like that was the time where you could just work your way into whatever you needed. So, you know, we were blessed, but we were not wealthy. But I remember wearing a dress on Easter. It might not have been my dress, it might have been hand me down a few times. I was wearing a dress on Easter, and we were at my Aunt Rosie's house, and I like I would not need one more digit on my hand to tell you how many times I was there my whole life, right? So we were there and they played this game. My brother and maybe my sister, but I know it was my brother and my cousins, and it was something where I had to like shut my eyes and and spin three times, and then I was gonna sit, they were gonna lead me to something I was gonna sit down, and then we could play hide and seek, and they led me to a cow pie.
SPEAKER_03And your beautiful dress.
SPEAKER_06Were you sad?
SPEAKER_03That's so literally that's so mean.
SPEAKER_04I thought I was not sad, I was terrified that I that I ruined like something that was expensive. I wasn't sad. I mean, it took me 15 milliseconds to be like, how can I get them back?
unknownRight?
SPEAKER_04Like revenge is best served cold when it comes to siblings. Yep. I don't think they ever did pay them back, but traumatic.
SPEAKER_03That's like the common denominator. Anything traumatic is your first memory. Well, that's the way your brain works, right? Usually it's a bee sting, like for most of our kids, our people. Yeah, it was like, Oh, I got stung by a bee when I got stung by a little adult Tony. I got stung by a bee.
SPEAKER_06So Keith talked about it a little bit when he was here, but I want Wanted to hear, like, what made you leave dispatching? Was it did you leave for Keith's job? Did you go with Keith? So is that how that worked? Like what?
SPEAKER_04So I was a dispatcher for a utility company and then for Wisconsin State Patrol. And then when I found out I was expecting, um, which was not I was praying for something that would like Keith and I were in different shifts, and I could just it was getting like I was like what could unite us and Kayla.
SPEAKER_07Aww.
SPEAKER_04So, which was supposed to be Alexandra for girl, but it wasn't. I'll tell you that story. Can you tell you that story? No. It's a good one.
SPEAKER_03Is it? You're still mad about it? No.
SPEAKER_04So anyway, um, actually, Faith's story is actually a little better. So we wanted to go where people loved us and would love our children. So we moved back. We were looking for Manitok or Shanno County area, somewhere Green Bay would have been ultimate because you're half to each parent. And um, there was uh they used to have this law enforcement bulletin like quarterly, and then on the back would be jobs, and I applied for one at Shawn and was hired in Heat. I started on January 1st, second shift because I worked January 1st, third shift, like the the 11 till 7, and then I worked 3:30 to midnight so I could get my, you know, it's about money, right? So I got my vacation paid out. Then I came to Shano County and he followed a few months later.
SPEAKER_06So I had that wrong. He followed you to Shanoe County.
SPEAKER_04Yes, but I went to the state patrol.
SPEAKER_05Like we moved across area. So what made you jump into teaching?
SPEAKER_04Okay, so I always wanted to be a teacher, and um you have to realize it was like dot-com bubble. No, actually, it was before that. I apologize, but there was a lot of unemployment. So my dad had like unemployment in general or an education?
SPEAKER_06In general. Okay.
SPEAKER_04So my parents, like, I just remember it was off the cuff. It was meant to be funny, but it sat on my heart. My dad, in a quip, in a funny thing, said, You're going to you want to go to college? Well, then you can count the un people with the in the unemployment line with you. Just a joke. Like it was just said like that fast, but I just like it sat there, like it made me realize you can't, with a college degree, work your way out of it. Like, you know what I mean? Because you're gonna have all this debt. So when college was on our own and I ran out of money. And then we were up north where we are going next week. And I remember I was working at the time for because I left 911 because the overtime was so intense, and we had a kid. And at one point, my mother-in-law Barb had to pick up Kayla from our babysitter, so it went from babysitter to babysitter, and then I was working second shift, I think, and Keith was working third. And when he came in, I'm like, see this on the wall. He's like, just kind of like Lisa, you're having a moment, you know. And then it's like, hey, that's the writing. I'm tapping out like this is not right. And they were doing a great job raising our daughter. Maybe that's our job, right? Right? No, I agree. The mandatory overtime was ridiculous. But I met a lot of amazing people through that job, and I loved it. It just wasn't good to be a parent. So um is that the did she answer the question?
SPEAKER_06So that's were you like, okay, I'm gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_04So then, so then I needed eleven thousand dollars to go back. So when I got to eleven thousand dollars, I was working for a thriving guy, AAL. When I so he came to make a policy with faith for faith. And I'm like, if you know anybody who's hiring, because I was traveling to Green Bay to Schneider, uh, and I'm like, the still the drive and more overtime, and I'm like, that's not what I loved. Dispatching for which I loved, and I don't care much about money, so like when you work for a business, like you know, sell that, sell that, get that load, sell that, and I'm like, shh, yep, I think. Yep, you're not motivated by that. Yeah, so as soon as we had $11,000, I I was like, okay, I got it. Can I? But it was in August. I'm like, I'm never gonna get back to school. And they took me, they also made some rules after I left because I had more credits than a year. I I could I could take off of all work for a semester. So I took 22 credits at Silver Lake College, and then I had um, I'm proud that I took a course through LSU, I'm proud that I took one through Iowa, I'm proud that I took one from Seattle. I want to curl up into a cocoon that I took one from Ohio. You don't like Ohio? Oh. Uh, our family sings a song. Ohio I hate Ohio State. Oh, I hate Ohio. Really? What the heck is a buckeye? I say heck, not my daughters. Your mascot is a nut, a stinking nut. They don't say stinking.
SPEAKER_03That's great. That'll be the intro. That'll be the bleep for Lisa. We have a lot of Ohio customers. Oddly enough, we have like three different groups that come, so we'll make sure they'll love that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I just I'm not a fan of Ohio State. You know, if you're in the Big Ten, I think if you love the Big Ten, I think you're not a fan of Ohio State.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Generally. If you're a Wisconsin badger. So yeah. So yeah, and I finished, and then they there used to be correspondence courses. So you got like a box of stuff. Ohio State, though, was the first one that was online. I did, I had my box of assignments, but then I emailed them. Email Scotty Edge. And I would chrr like my 1998 computer, you know. Uh yeah, and I transferred them in, and then Silver Lake is like, you can't take that many credits and blah blah blah. And I'm like, you need to have that in paper because I did, and I went through it. Good for you. 4.0. See, but I don't like to be lazy, but I didn't sleep for eight months. Six months. What is this semester? Six months.
SPEAKER_034.0. And you had little Kayla.
SPEAKER_04And about that time, I had little Faith. Faith went with me to school, and mom by and large, watched her every once in a while. Mom would have appointments and she would come along. And she was the college cutie. She had curly hair. Like really curly hair. So everybody loved her. Yeah, but she hated if you came to like a relationship.
SPEAKER_03No touch. That's what she would say. Me no touch. Was she Spanish? Yeah. Me no touch. A blonde, curly Spanish child. Love that for you guys. Do you believe in aliens? I know it's not bibli. Oh shit. Why do you think it's not biblical? I people people will argue that, but I I want to hear your opinion.
SPEAKER_04Um, I think that God is bigger than our world. Yeah. Okay. So, and I know that sometimes I'll have a Sunday school student that have will ask me the question of like, okay, so God made the world in a day, then all the prehistoric science stuff at school is really messing with their brain, right? How do you, and I'm like, okay, as a person who absolutely puts God on top of human science, right? Yeah, because she was a science teacher, side note. Yeah, those part ELA and science. And then um I I do think that in my heart, and we don't know, we'll find out. It's probably like my second question for him, right? Um, we'll find out. But my guess is he wasn't standing on earth when he made it, it wasn't our day. Like what's a day, right? A revolution. So it's not our day, but we take that, take the scrolls, interpret them a few times, and we come up with it's 24 hours. You're right. And you sure so, and then the other question in in my heart and in my mind is are we sure that when the universe was made that there isn't somewhere else? Okay, so the only thing that is confusing is we are an image of God, and when you see like the alien stuff or whatever, um it I you know that might be all Hollywood anyway, right? So God tells you to welcome the aliens. God said when he said, come when Jesus said come follow me, he was not talking follow me to the money, follow me to the mansions. He's saying follow me to the margins.
SPEAKER_03So that means you believe in aliens.
SPEAKER_04I think there's I think there's other life out there that's not us, I'm sure. Do I think that they are in my house? No.
SPEAKER_03Well let's talk about Levi.
SPEAKER_04Somebody's making the somebody's making a mess.
SPEAKER_03Um Leviathan. Yeah, I I like hearing um your thoughts on that because you're science and but you're also religious. So how do you what's your argument with people that argue if you believe in science, you can't necessarily believe in God?
SPEAKER_04Do you ever hear that from people? I think that God is the creator of all things, right? And he would not have given us brain intellect curiosity if he didn't want us to have a brain, intellect, and curiosity. I I would I would just qualify that I feel like I am not religious, I am faithful. I think religion is the thing that sometimes puts a wall between people and God, and then that's not cool. You're right, right? Yeah, I like that. If it's not inclusive, because Jesus was so inclusive, back to the margins, right? He was so inclusive. If it's not inclusive, then I'm not sure that's God's intention.
SPEAKER_03Right. And that was one of my favorite takeaways from what your husband, number one Keith, your number one Keith, my number two Keith, said um when we asked him, like, how would you know our your church is the way? He goes, I don't know that. When he was like, That's very arrogant to think that way. You never hear that from a pastor. I would agree. Do you know what I mean? That's rare. I have not ever heard them admittingly being like, Who am I to sit there and say, My is this is for what a huge world and how much religion is out there, like for us to actually think that. Yeah, it was so refreshing, and I think that's why his episode affected so many is because they were like, I'm not perfect, but I'm still viewed as valuable as him as a pastor. Because I'm like, another thing I said, won't God be like, Oh my god, thank you so much. You did so much. He was not any more than you. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_04And they spot, I think he's spot on.
SPEAKER_03Spot on. Yeah, like, but it's hard to it's hard to understand that because I wasn't raised that way. There was like the holy and then the more like the holy, and then like, and then you're down here. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04I know I'd be such the basement kid.
SPEAKER_03I was can I come up?
unknownGet down there.
SPEAKER_03But so um that's why I I really like our church too, is because it's very it was very scary to get back in it, and knowing you and Keith made it easier, and then all but then like hearing him, and then how like welcoming and like so congregation is all that way too, like very welcoming. And that's how I I try to explain like respectfully, they're older. You would think at least from judgy, not at all. They're the best, they're the best group of people. Like, I have never felt um one of the girls that Amber who was in the cult with us, she's like, How did you how can you even entertain that? Like, if people like you would have to be at our church to understand, like it's different, it's different.
SPEAKER_04I I agree, I I totally agree. I if I could like when we do the sign of the peace, how many churches everywhere to try to get as many people as you can?
SPEAKER_03I know it's like can we can we end this anytime? No, I'm like, nope, back roll, sorry, yeah. I didn't get to you, but then Keith, yep, you're right, everyone does peace.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, except I want to like hold their head, swab their cheeks, and like clone a bunch of them, right? You guys included, just stay there a second.
SPEAKER_03Peter dish. You're so funny. Oh man, that's so funny. Um, how did you tell me about your kidney, your one kidney? How is that working out?
SPEAKER_06How's that kidney going?
SPEAKER_03I think it's important to ask it in there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like you said this at the baseball game, cubby's game. One you see, they come to a lot of our boys' games. I wish we could do more. I said, Do you feel any different day? You're like, I wouldn't even know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Today if if somebody doesn't bring it up, it doesn't enter my mind. I'm just living life.
SPEAKER_03So if somebody's thinking about it, you'd be like, do it. Let's talk about it. Tell me your story. Um, not as cool as yours. No, yours is way cooler.
SPEAKER_04We I was in high school biology is in my head, but I'm like, did they have the technology then? I bet they did, and I bet you it was a lot more cumbersome. Oh, but I remember them um talking in a biology course, and then that was like you could have a live donor. We were talking about just organs, and I so I was in track, and you know, a country home takes a lot more maintenance and whatever. And I had a boyfriend like all of the things. Then I I just remember thinking, oh crap, I gotta get around to that too. Like it was just like I gotta go donate before, you know. Really? It was like always part of your thought. Fourth thing on the list, or you know, really, and then my sister-in-law, amazing human being, um, Lori. Because again, so Faith.
SPEAKER_03Is she from the um the bar? Oh no, who's that's Chris? Okay. Also, I have really good sister-in-laws, yeah.
SPEAKER_04They have good pizza.
SPEAKER_03We just got some from there. They're taking a beating that road work. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So does your car getting there? Yeah. Um, so uh she has a brother that needed a kidney, and I was all cleared through Freightert. Milwaukee. Maybe it wasn't Freytert, something. That isn't that Freightert? Yeah, but do they have more than one? Oh, yeah. So, whatever it was in Milwaukee, it was all cleared. All we had to do is figure out which kidney they were going to harvest. And um, so at this Milwaukee place, he had single renal arteries. So those are the main arteries that feed and pull things in and out, right? And um, which a lot of times people have one that is a uh a single and one that has a double or even a triple. Well, both of mine were double. So we had like I had my two weeks of subplans done and we had it all ready to go, and they just had to pick, and I got weeded out. And I do not like breaking promises, right? We had why did they weed you out? Because I had double renal and they could not make that work.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I thought only had singles. Singles.
SPEAKER_03You gotta match. Oh, okay. Okay, so you were competitive, you were gonna take someone out by the kidney.
unknownKidney.
SPEAKER_04So in the the person that was doing the MRI, I just I felt something weird, you know. And they can't talk, right? They can't, they are not reading the MRI, but like but they know just I just felt something was up by their face or just your gut, gut, total gut, and then I hate breaking promises. I was, I'm sure you were with the liver thing. You're devastated.
SPEAKER_03I it they warn you about that too.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, no, I wasn't warned at that time, but they were like, it's hard.
SPEAKER_03They were still learning, they were still there and it's hard. You feel like yeah, it's hard.
SPEAKER_04Then there was a person that was at a burr game and loved the burrers, right? So it said share your spare, and it was this guy that needed a kidney, and his by the way, just backing up a little bit, the guy who received the kidney doing great, and so is his donor, who turned out to be his niece. Um, so high blood pressure kind of thing. So that's really hard in my kidneys, and it's doing great, doing so good. Because I still see him because we have mutual nieces, yeah. Right. And nephew, and nephew, sorry, boys. Um, so then this guy needed a spare, and I started the process and he got his kidney, but then he asked for somebody else that like he knows, and he needed a kidney, so and I was like, all right, well, I'll continue to process. But UW Madison can make your double renal arteries work anywhere. Yeah, they're like they they have no problem with it.
SPEAKER_03UW Madison's pretty impressive, yeah. Except one nurse. Oh, really? Should we call her or him out?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay. What they do, do it, what they do to you. So um, I the I wasn't feeling good after the surgery.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so wait, you donated to the guy at the brewer game? I donated to his friend.
SPEAKER_04And we still haven't met, but we're going to.
SPEAKER_03And he's can we just can we do a little bit of bragging rights for you? How big is this person you donated to?
SPEAKER_04He's a tall man. Oh, the person who got it?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, him I did meet. So that got your kidney? Yes. So because of the voucher program, I donated for somebody so you can move up. And the guy who got my kidney.
SPEAKER_03You need to brag about that a little bit more. That you were able to donate to a very tall person.
SPEAKER_06Why are you so competitive with this?
SPEAKER_03With organs? Because it's so impressive.
SPEAKER_04She likes so no girl ever wants to hear that. You are an exact match because you are a gorilla.
SPEAKER_06You know, nobody wants to know. Big organs. Yeah, she thinks it's awesome.
SPEAKER_03I think it's awesome. Like when they said my liver is huge and I could donate it, but it the whatever, I was like, I have a huge liver. Because our our friend, who is a very large man, very tall, had a baby liver. So I was like, you don't know what's inside. Yeah, true. And Mandy, look at Mandy who donated Andy. She's tiny.
SPEAKER_06I don't know if we can bully people about their liver size. I don't know if that's fair.
SPEAKER_03Well, just think you need to brag about your kidney donor donor. Okay, sorry.
SPEAKER_04So he he was in he's in law enforcement. He is at um a prison there, and he works with youth. Really? Yeah. So that was just kind of interesting. And we found each other before because you have a coordinator, and you can you can say, I'd like to meet my donor, or and they have to say, I'd I'd like to meet the recipient. Like, yeah, and um, there was there's a donor page, I'm sure you're on it, I hope. Otherwise, I found out about it after I donated. Somebody from high school messaged me on Facebook and said, Do you know about this donor page? And they answer a lot of medical questions before your doctor will even see you because everybody's been through it. Yeah, and somebody said, Hey, this page page is getting really big. It's just right after I donated. Anyone want to start just a UW Madison donor page? Uh, if so, just tell me when you donated. And I put the date down, which escapes me, May something, 19th, 9, sorry, 2019. And somebody that totally just everybody was like, like, like, like, and then all of a sudden somebody had this like shocked face emoji. Like, and then why is that shocking?
SPEAKER_03I have goosebumps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm like, why is that shocking? So then what do you do?
SPEAKER_03Like, you click on that person's name and usually my usually I click on the ones that have angry face, I'm like, who's the f should? And why is it always Lisa? Lisa sorely burning her house down tonight.
SPEAKER_04You're not just saying that you're just not calling me the B-word. You mean it right? So um the so I go on her page and it was like three pictures down, and it's like it's go time, and she's the best friend of the person who's receiving the kidney, and he's in the bed and whatever, and then I was like, oh, so hey, and he's in this state. No, he's in California, but I all you know is like where the kidney's going. But on this slip, I happened to see which university it was like University of California, uh San Francisco or whatever it was at the time. So then that's where he was, and I was like, Oh, that looks pretty so cool.
SPEAKER_06Oh, do you know how they ship them? Yeah, how did they do that? What's that process look like? Because I'm losing faith in FedEx.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, it's probably a FedEx plane. It's actually a passenger plane packed on ice, and you you get like like if there's a delay, obviously in a flight, you you take the first flight out, and they just fly it.
SPEAKER_03Because it can last, um, I think they told me 48 hours on ice. Yeah. Liver and kidney, like it longer than you would even think. Yeah. Because I was shocked. I'm like, what happens if this? And then he's like, actually, you do have more time than one would think. Yeah, is what my coordinator said. I'm like, that isn't so I donated.
SPEAKER_04I think we had to be there at like 5 30 or some an obnoxious time. And I think um surgery was at seven. And once I mean, they don't like wait for your surgery to be all done. As soon as they get that harvested, it is packed and off as fast as well.
SPEAKER_03And they said that too, that there's like the at least what my nurse said, there's literal button in the Surgery room when they take your organ out. Oh, I did not know that they click and that Nike gets like my girl get right up on the list. Ah. He goes, because it's life, you know, I mean their lives are on it. So it's like that fast. As soon as they have your organ, the voucher program isn't in fact like it's uh in their system. I'm like, that is impressive.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm really I'm really happy for the recipient and a heck of a way to get to meet somebody. But then are you gonna meet him? When are you gonna meet him? So the recipient I have. Okay, why am I not processing this? The person on my voucher list, I have not. So it was a it was somebody from Wisconsin needed a kidney. So he's on my voucher, and the hardest part of this whole process is because you have to do that paperwork. So I had two gifts, a total stranger who I have not yet met, my social security number, and maybe the law enforcement part came out. I'm like, you ever knew that.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04And he was like, I totally would not do that, but because you're just on the phone.
SPEAKER_03So the the person that's not actually walking around with your kidney, that person's in California.
SPEAKER_04The person walking around with my kidney is in California. Yeah. And he's a Dodger fan, so he's wrong.
SPEAKER_03Boom. That's where we're going to do a Dodgers game. Maybe we'll meet him. Do you have Lisa Sorley's kidney? That'll be my jersey. It's funny.
SPEAKER_04Um, he probably will be there. I think he has season. I feel like he's always there, so I think he has season tickets.
SPEAKER_03I would love to meet him. I'll we'll let you know when.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, so soft spoken.
SPEAKER_03That's so cool. So I asked Thomas, my coordinator, I said, what if this person? I'm like, can I pick who's gonna get mine? Since Nike, I can't directly. He goes, No. I'm like, is a person gonna be a douchebag? Like, what if I he's like, nope, actually, they're very strict with the voucher program. Like, their quality of life has to be good, they have to be a good person, have healthy lifestyles and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_04I didn't have that much um education on the voucher system as far as that part. I just understood how it worked and how it started.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_04The starting part makes me a little weepy.
SPEAKER_03What do you mean?
SPEAKER_04Oh, so it's just a grandpa and his grandson um had some type of medical issue where they knew Oh, who started the voucher program? Yeah, they knew eventually he was going to need a kidney, and the grandpa knew by that time I'm gonna be too old. So he went to the National Kidney Foundation with this idea, and it's been it's so cool. And the one of the so the best friend I told you about, the person on Facebook, she and I and I've since lost it's like I don't know where it is, and she doesn't know where it is, but she sent a picture of the cascading amount of organ donations because of it started. I'm like the first one on the list, and it went like 14 down.
SPEAKER_03Wow, yeah, so it's kind of cool. Didn't he start at like a farmer's market, the voucher program?
SPEAKER_04Didn't he like sit there and like I don't recall that backstory? I just my my coordinator who has since moved like right after right after I donated, she went to a different department. She was like amazing.
SPEAKER_03Why didn't you like this nurse from UW Medicine?
SPEAKER_04She had like no social skills. So one time I'm in the bathroom and she's like, and I'm like, I'm busy. And she opens the door and she goes, Oh, we don't mind, and I'm like, I do, and I shut the door and she opens again, and he's like, you know, I mind, and I'm the patient, and I believe, you know, I should have some say. Right. Yeah. Rude. Oh, that made me hot. So you hit when you after you donate, at least for me at UW Madison, they have like all uh all the things that went right, you do like this.
SPEAKER_06Um I can't see you getting angry. I know when she's like, I feel like when you say it like that, you were probably laughing at the time. I don't see it.
SPEAKER_03I've seen her angry one time, and that was a very terrible time in your life with your daughter. And you said, You better find this guy before I do. Yeah. And I'm like, oh she said, she's sweet, but she said you better find this guy before I do.
SPEAKER_04I remember when we got the call, I said, because Keith was off duty. And I said, Okay, you're gonna a bunch of cats are gonna be there. And I told Faith, I'm sorry for bringing this up. No, I told Faith that Nicole's gonna be there and she's gonna have a big gun and she's gonna protect you.
SPEAKER_03Aww. I was the first one there.
SPEAKER_04I know. I I would, I mean, I I knew in my heart I didn't know. Um, I also your chief said to sign something. And then call me Big Daddy. No, no, no, no. That's funny. No, no, I'm sorry. It was um Maul. It was Maul.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Maul. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but you had like because of, I'm sure it was probably um because I'm leaving like DNA and fingerprints and like all the evidence. Oh, yeah, yeah. So you have to like sign this.
SPEAKER_03Did you throw it at him? Poor Maul.
SPEAKER_04I just like gave them uh the look that you probably saw.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you were you were mama bear. You were a grizzly bear walking in, and like you could have been the first unseen and handled everything.
SPEAKER_04The thing I noticed though is the girl, the other girl, um, through that terrible, it's a uh robbery situation.
SPEAKER_03An armed robbery.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and she was like a year older than my daughter, but looked just as young, if not younger. So you walk in there and you see those two girls, and you still think your goal is more important, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, it was another officer you're saying. What girl? There were two people working. Oh, yeah, yeah. The bad guy. Oh, the bad guy with that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what a douche. Totally. It was terrible, but um, back to your happy kidney. Yeah, should we go back to happy drunk?
SPEAKER_06Do you want to ask her if she's met her recipient yet? Again, I met my recipient.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, he's cool. He's got one fatal flaw, Dodger fan. Yeah, that is bad. God, no one likes the Dodgers.
SPEAKER_04I think everybody likes the Dodgers, just not they because they're good. Yeah, and that's what right now.
SPEAKER_03Why? We're neck and neck, and they're oh, it's gonna be so we're going to see my niece, Malia, my sister, her baby. So we're going the 12th. And I said, We're gonna go to a baseball game. He's like, Yeah, we already went to a Padres game. So he's like, let's go to an Angels game. We're like, okay.
SPEAKER_06I checked, and I'm like, sure enough, they're home. We'll go to an angels game, we'll go to Anaheim.
SPEAKER_03And then um, I'm like, what about a Dodgers game? He's like, absolutely not. I am not giving it away.
SPEAKER_06We're bringing the young boys too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he goes, I am not giving the Dodgers money.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, and it's I mean, people there get a little rowdy, like they're known for it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know. Then he he's on his phone, he's looking, he goes, We're going to a Dodgers game. I'm like, Why? He's like, they're playing the Brewers. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, but then we had a friend I think I heard that in one of your podcasts. She's like, or I think we told you at the maybe at the baseball game. Okay. Um, but one of my friends is like, do not, I told you this, but she's like, do not wear brewer stuff there. Like, you will, they are brutal. And then I asked my friend who's from LA, huge Dodgers fan, now Appleton cop, shout out to you, Cole Cantner. Yeah, Cole, Cole. I said, What do you think? He's like, uh, he's like, there are gang bangers there. He's like, they do. He's like, they have like, but if you get like kind of like what you said, if you get good enough seats, they'll leave you alone. But if you're like up in the nose, you know what I mean, where they like to hang out and heckle people.
SPEAKER_04Sad if you're not wearing brewer stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03I am wearing brewer stuff. I will fight them.
SPEAKER_04One of my most favorite things is I I don't know if he still does it, but um, Mr. Margot, love him, respect his, respect him, love his family, adore his wife. So they would always take a family vacation. So when if I knew they were going somewhere, I'd watch the brewer game of the way away game that's they kind of travel around. And of course, because it wouldn't be a lot of brewer stuff, like I know I see his kids on TV. Oh gosh, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_03Well, we'll be on there, maybe we'll be beat up, but we'll be there. Well, Nash, all of us will be all dirty from getting beat up by the game. How many kids are going?
SPEAKER_06All but Sawyer. Except Sawyer, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sawyer's an event or something, but okay. Wish us luck.
SPEAKER_04You'll be fine. How two cops.
SPEAKER_06When did when did you know you wanted to be a teacher? You said you've always wanted to be a teacher. So when did you when did that come? Uh was it a childhood dream?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, except for fourth grade, and then I jumped back on in fifth grade.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, what did you want to be in fourth grade?
SPEAKER_04Bad teacher.
SPEAKER_06Oh, or did you have like something else? So you wanted you wanted to be something else for it.
SPEAKER_04Um, I oddly enough, um, and you know, back in the days of Charlie Angels, right? So I did think that I wouldn't mind being a cop, but I always thought I wanted to be a teacher. I wanted to um I also liked acting, so like maybe a drama teacher or something like that, but I always thought I would work with littler kids. So when Miss Rutledge called and said, uh, I don't see our application, so old-fashioned um answering machines, right? Not a voicemail on your own phone. So I don't see your application in, and it's due tomorrow. And of course, like he played it and heard it, and he and I'm like, I I I'm waiting for the little kid spot, right? And he's like, if you don't walk out, walk through that window of opportunity, I'm pushing you through it, and you better hope it's not on the second floor. Well, key is her story, yeah, violent. Yeah, so I applied, and then it turned out um middle school's a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_03You they love you too.
SPEAKER_04So he seems he seems nervous around me now.
SPEAKER_03No, he and he he breaks, he's like, I think I'm one of her favorites. And he did not say that. He goes, and everyone thinks so too, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_04I got called out uh from a student in another class, something like um it was like the same grade, but they had enough kids to have two classes, and one person called me out and said something about Cubby and his friend Tyler or whatever.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Tyler's such a good kid. Yeah, I was like, ooh, like like saying you're they're your favorites. Yeah. You're like, oh, I'm that obvious.
SPEAKER_04I know I don't I don't want to have favorites. Everybody needs to be. Yeah, I think they're good like that.
SPEAKER_03You are good like that.
SPEAKER_04But if you um danced after eighth hour with me, you might have been my favorite.
SPEAKER_03You're a dancer. Let's talk about that movie that you had an opportunity maybe to be in. Is that still uh up for grabs, or are we able to talk about it? Sure.
SPEAKER_04Um, it is written by the person who's on my voucher and he's done some acting uh recently.
SPEAKER_03You meet them.
SPEAKER_07No.
SPEAKER_04Do we have time for a flow chart? Do you have like chalk that you can just use? Here's Lisa.
SPEAKER_06Here's Lisa's kidney. Lisa's kidney when she's door county, here's Lisa's kidney.
SPEAKER_04California. So that's funny. Uh and it is actually a political thriller. Um, I have not read the manuscript or whatever, but he's starting filming. It was supposed to be this month, but it's deleted month. It could the it's about um like these two polar political families, and what unites them is an organ donor, but they're so polarized that they're not sure they want. I don't know if it's the Democrat that doesn't want the Republicans kicking.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, that's insane. Yeah, but couldn't you? Oh no.
SPEAKER_04In this time and era, I could totally see that. And I think it's making a couple of points, right? And then through that experience he wants to have as part of the as part of the film, like an interview of I don't know how he's integrating it, but interview of a person that has actually gone through the process. So he reached out to me. I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03That is so cool.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_03It would that be a net the Netflix? The Netflix or the Burn. Yeah. Um that's exciting. I didn't ask that. Kimmy, are you an LA Dodgers fan? No, she's perfect.
SPEAKER_01No. Okay. What kind of fan are you? But granted, I'm not like a huge I don't follow baseball very closely. But when you lived in LA, did you go there? I went, but it was like because I enjoyed the atmosphere, but I wasn't like a diehard Dodgers fan. Did I wear the hat? Yes. I think you've worn it here. I have one time, maybe but it's to represent the city rather than the team. Yeah, I got that. That's my because LA's such a great city. Oh, you'll enjoy how dirty that area is.
SPEAKER_03It is bad. We've been there, it's not great. Yeah. Um, okay, back to you and your movie star. So you might still be an actress.
SPEAKER_04California is my bucket list thing. It is. You should come with us. I want to do all the states actually.
SPEAKER_01Of baseball? Well, there's other parts of California that are beautiful. Los Angeles has pockets.
SPEAKER_04I have to go to San Francisco, obviously, because um the recipient came here to meet me. I owe him one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I have to coordinate that with Keith because we promised to go together.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. San Francisco's fun. Also dirty. But it's fun.
SPEAKER_04Um I have a funny address story. Yeah, let's go. Okay. So when law enforcement, right? So um when my kids were small, I wanted them to know their address in case they wandered off and somebody could bring them home. And I used to rock them, and and I'm a horrible singer, but I'd be like, You say that, but that's not true. So bad.
SPEAKER_06You're a good singer.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're a good singer. Tell me freely what so I'd rock them in it, and this is how small they were. I'd be like, My name is Kayla, and this is where I live. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. I won't say my address, Church Road, Cecil, Wisconsin, USA. And we were, I think we were in Wisconsin Dells. My brother's like, hey, if my kid shows up, which is my niece Bailey, wonderful human being. Um my niece shows up, she goes, My name is Bailey, and she'd use my address because I was singing it too much. Really? Yeah, but they were like, that's really clever.
SPEAKER_03Younger than toddlers.
SPEAKER_07That's funny.
SPEAKER_03That's a good idea. Yeah. How did you think of that? Think, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You're a teacher. No, I am so always so like moment to moment off the cuff. Creative.
SPEAKER_06So when you wanted to teach little kids, how little?
SPEAKER_04Like what what did you I was oddly enough, I was scared to teach first grade because I didn't want to wrong anybody learning how to read. And that was the learning how to read time 22 years ago. Now it's really kindergarten, it starts. And uh that is where my passion is now.
SPEAKER_03Really? Yeah. What do you mean you didn't want to wrong? What do you mean you didn't want to wrong them? I want be like what were you?
SPEAKER_04Like, I think that reading is an unequalizer. So if you can see the kids that are catching on really fast, you start school thinking what's wrong. What's wrong with me? And I'm not okay with that. I want everybody to leave thinking I got this because it's such a big thing. But it's like tying shoes. Not everybody ties shoes. Like I was in first grade and I had to give up my little Debbie's so Joe from my class could tie my shoes after gym. So I couldn't get it back on. But you know, it was worth my little Debbie's. It was twice a week. I was okay. Wow, that's so funny.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you were a good negotiator. Like, tie my shoes, I'll give you some snacks. That's good. It was more like, what do I get?
SPEAKER_04So I'm like, okay, my little Debbie. Yeah. So but yeah, that's but now, so when I went to school, there was things that are called balanced literacy and like whole language, and they have realized that that is that was really a crapshoot to teach kids how to read. And that's what I would have been using because that was the research at the time, and now they have something called the science of reading. It's literally what it's called. Really? Yeah. The science of reading. So and it's so interesting.
SPEAKER_03It is so interesting to me as a parent seeing how much quicker kids are reading earlier. Like even from Sawyer and Journey's time to Knox and Nash, I'm like, they weren't reading this well, right? Because we figured some things out, and it's so simple. Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's you know, it's yes, it starts off with language, it starts off with sounds, and then so that's called phonemic awareness, understanding how to manipulate sounds and words. Try the SH at the end of the word. What does it do? And it just gets your brain thinking about it, and then you correlate that with something that's called morphemes, which is just like the letter or letters like seeds, just that kind of thing. Um, and then you have then when you're reading well, you're fluent, so your working memory can understand what you read earlier, otherwise, you're chopping through the words so hard that you forgot where you started. I was just the opposite. I could read like the wind, but my brain was slow, you know. So yeah, then vocabulary, and then things add up.
SPEAKER_01What do you have, Cammy?
SPEAKER_00Can I ask one? Yeah, we I can always tell any questions.
SPEAKER_01Um can you talk about when you knew that Keith Sorley, like you would live the rest of your life with Keith Sorley?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04It was actually pretty early. Um so uh on our first date, he came. We we met in Green Bay and we were going to um Nancy Rudy. I probably shouldn't use names. Nancy and Arl's house from church. You were going to their house for a date? Yeah, so they their son um was very, very close friends with Keith. In fact, they walked together for graduation, they were confirmed together, yes. Um, sadly and tragically, he died at a young age. Oh, nice, like he stood up for our wedding. Like, you can't say his name without thinking about what a unique, cool person. Just he is a magnet, right? So he like brought people together, not so so regular that we'd meet at his house because he's the magnet, right? Uh but when we were driving there, Keith shows up with a box of long stem red roses from Jim from church, the flower shop, right? But I wasn't sure what to do with them because we were like getting into Keith's car, which is his parents' car. And I was like, Did you put him in my trunk and leave him at the pizza place where we met? Or like, what are you doing there, right? And then uh we we had a Keith stopped at a red light, but it wasn't flashing and looked both ways and kept going. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna die tonight, you know? Like, hey, I loved him question.
SPEAKER_06Uh, but then just as we were talking, he was probably just so flustered by your beauty though. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_04Yep, that was I yeah. Or or maybe he had to have a drink before he was ongoing lazy.
SPEAKER_06Did he have his drink and shoes on?
SPEAKER_04Or not that I knew what they were at the time. No, he didn't. That's so funny. Uh so anyway, we talked until like, I don't know, like maybe two or three in the morning, and then he sent me letters. So what do you mean he sent you letters? Yes. Like he wrote hand wrote letters, and that's when you knew he was the one. Uh I could tell he was intelligent, and that is my that's like my blue eyes. Yeah, intelligence is my attraction thing, creativity and voice. Check, check, check. Right? And one time he wrote this letter because I he called and I didn't answer or wasn't home or whatever, and he turned it into this story with like this um, I don't know if he was like a dwarf or he made himself an ogre or something, I would have to reread it again. I'm sure I have those letters. You still have them?
SPEAKER_03Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Oh, for sure. Um, and then he made me out to be like this princess on the hill, and I was thinking, what? But then I thought, wow, you must like me too. Yeah. So yeah, I would say that it wasn't until the second date, but it was really early.
SPEAKER_03It was the second date. So you agree that for the most part, when you know, you know with someone, yeah. Like pretty quick. That's what we think too. I do, at least for me. Yeah. It was easy. It's it should be, especially at the beginning. It was easy.
SPEAKER_04It was easy for even for as shy as he was.
SPEAKER_03He's just so clever and he is clever, he's witty. You two are too witty. Are your girls witty and clever?
SPEAKER_04So Kayla's part of a stand-up, like um improv group. And the couple show we went to literally a couple shows, two of them. She just started, and she carried both of those shows. Really? Um, yeah. And Faith is she also has like the she can also do like the faces and the body and the whatever, you know. When you're doing homework and she's um dancing in the kitchen with and she turns around, she sees that I'm watching and giggling and recording her. She's like, turns it up to 10 and she's her. You know that kind of yeah, they're very, very funny.
SPEAKER_03Very funny. Vacations are a good time. Live with the sorleys. Can you talk a little bit about your dog? Oh, for sure. Which one? Let's talk about Levi.
SPEAKER_04Leviathan Elvis Sorley.
SPEAKER_03That's his name? Yeah. Now, Kami, the reason why I'm asking about Levi is because Levi is Pete's half-brother.
SPEAKER_04And Nicole pinned me against the wall and said, You should adopt this dog. And Keith was at seminary. Surprise! We never thought our other dog would let him home, but she had tweaked her back. In fact, I went right from a vet appointment there and she just was out of it. But when she came around, she would not sleep in the house. Like I had to bug spray and then go out and sleep by her. Yeah, but she'd get up and move. She was that mad. I didn't know that about Lily. Yeah, she came around. And she was a third dog at her house. Like, who can she? She can't play that card. Like, what if our other two dogs, which would have been Bacon, the coolest dog in the universe, right? And uh Hunter, the kindest lab. Yeah, you do like labs. Three and a half legs.
SPEAKER_07So cute. Really?
SPEAKER_03So Levi is naughty, kind of like Pete Pete. Is oh oh oh he's not naughty?
SPEAKER_06No, he's just shy, like skittish, right? He's not naughty. He doesn't take any food off.
SPEAKER_04He eats furniture. That wasn't defiance. That was um comfort where are my parents because we were on vacation.
SPEAKER_06Like what's because correct me if I'm wrong, he doesn't steal any food off the table, right?
SPEAKER_04Oh, he I made um chicken soup for my mom this week. And so we each had a bowl because I like like a big batch, and then um she has left leftovers, and I just want to make sure she gets like all of it, protein and whatever. And we're eating it, and all of a sudden I hear somebody turn around. Levi got his paws on the stove, and he's trying to get his head in the pot.
SPEAKER_06I hope I don't believe you.
SPEAKER_03Levi. That's Pete. Not Levi.
SPEAKER_06Not Levi.
SPEAKER_03Pete was we Keith made Keith is a really good cook, and he made burgers, which are never just burgers, they're always like great burgers, and then you made mini Italian pizzas, like pizza subs. Yeah, oh fun. And just like he was making, and then this is Pete just waiting. He was like side-eyeing us all, like waiting. I'm like, looking for his opportunity, is what he's doing. Literally sitting back just enough, like not trying to look suspicious, like but lurking, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, do not move. Anyone do not move because he will eat your food. He is waiting, he's so fast, too. He is for his like huge and clunky that dog is, he's fast. Oh, so do you get this? Yes, yep. That's Carl. Yeah, that's Carl. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Pete doesn't do that.
SPEAKER_03You get the big Carl, uh Pete will smack us with his paw. Like a cat.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, like he'll like he punches you in the face.
SPEAKER_03He'll punch you like if Chopper's barking, you've like punch him in the face.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like legit, he does. Like, knock it off. It's just me. Like when he walks into the door, he just punches dogs.
SPEAKER_03He will punch a dog. And we always say, I'm gonna punch that geriatric dog in the face because Chopper is so old.
SPEAKER_04Oh I do have a geriatric dog. How old is Lily?
unknownOh, okay.
SPEAKER_04Um I I don't know if she's 12 or 13 now, but yeah, sometimes it's like my kids will be like, mom, her birthday is blah blah blah. And I'm like, sorry.
SPEAKER_03So Quinna, one of our baristas who who's sweet, who you love, who didn't kick you out that one day when you were here. It's Quinna. Um, she works at the Green Bay Humane Society, and she says the amount of people that drop off geriatric dogs is heartbreaking. Meaning, like you and Keith today drop Lily off because she's wedding and you can't afford meds. She goes, it happens a lot.
SPEAKER_04I always thought it was because they too were aging and going into like some like in my mind's eye, that would be the reason. I am now in a nursing home and they don't let me take my dog. Not always. She says, not always.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes it's like we can't afford meds, right? For the dog, or like they're not bad enough.
SPEAKER_04Such a blessing. Like when we first had our first dog, Genghis Khan. Um, cool, cool name. Yeah, um, we named Keith named he was gonna get a dog, Genghis Khan, and I bring home a dog that's small. It's not all about that, right? But he did have a Foo Man, too. So I can see that. Yeah, we were so tight with money. Keith got his uh the pink paint check. So in the State Patrol, you get a pink paycheck, like literally the color pink, and that dog hated the the male person, and we had a three-season porch where we were renting, and that's where the male slot was. And Genghis Khan got in there and shredded that check. No, shredded it. I brought the remnants of it to the utility company because the utility bill was due, and I'm like, I just need a little time. The money is so heartbreaking because it wasn't like, yeah, like that's how tight we were when we were first married.
SPEAKER_03So what do you think? We can afford meds for the dog. Um, so where what did you do? Did you get a check? A new check?
SPEAKER_04Did they re-yeah, which is when you're in the state patrol, you like a racer ball, right? That could have got him kicked out, but asking for a new check is so embarrassing. He was in the academy at the time.
SPEAKER_03Oh, what happened to Dingus? Dingus Dong? Is that his name? Dingus Dong. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04The great warrior Dingus Dong.
SPEAKER_06Your listening skills are not on point today.
SPEAKER_02I am. Justine asked me, we're we were decorating.
SPEAKER_03Justine's like, are you okay today? I'm like, I don't know. I'm off today. She goes, you're like, something is up. I'm like, I don't know what's up, but obviously, Dingus Dong. Dingus.
SPEAKER_06Did you ever meet your recipient of your kidney?
SPEAKER_03You mean the one on my voucher? Um, so were you mad at him or like at the dog? I don't want to say the name. Yeah, of course, but I was so devastated because how are you gonna pay your bills?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I was just worried about Keith having to ask for a new one.
SPEAKER_03That's so bad.
SPEAKER_04I was trying to figure out like what we can do to not need that check, but we needed the check. So yeah, but that's fine. I mean, damn it. If you don't have that beginning, you don't, I agree.
SPEAKER_03I agree. So I had to say that to my sister because she's like super concerned her daughter's moving out. She's like she doesn't, Nicole, she doesn't have furniture, she doesn't have this, she doesn't have that. I'm like, that's okay. Yeah, it's that's actually good. Like I had great Aunt Joyce's hand-me-down uh breezeway Davenport, you know what I mean? That was like three generations ago, and like I see pictures of Sawyer and Journey on this crusty couch, like when they were little, and I'm like, it just builds appreciation and like and who wants new furniture with little kids, like starting off because she's starting off, like kids trash furniture, but they ruin everything, they ruin everything. Happiness. Um, I'm really happy. I'm really happy you came on here. Is there anything that you that we did because we kind of were all over the place, which I'm really happy because you're exactly like us. So if there is something that you wanted to touch base on, is there anything that you wanted to there anything you wanted to talk about?
SPEAKER_06I mean, I know you didn't want to get a solid 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_04I I just really appreciate everything that you guys do for the community of Bondawell and how you lift the educators here. Like, if you look at that school, I can just be like perfect, perfect. Like just people that really care, and I see that you see it. And I think before you guys, you two set it out there, I think a lot of people took it for granted.
SPEAKER_02We do have a good school, yeah. Yeah, and well, thank you.
SPEAKER_04And the everything in the community that you guys sponsor is just aligns with my heart, and I I one day I'm gonna be as cool as oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Can we talk about for two seconds you at the at the tournament you got hit up twice?
SPEAKER_04Do you know what the worst part of that was later on? Because I never carry cash because of my um what did you call it? Whatever. Okay, so I'm I I'm a cash cash loser. I can stop my debit card on my phone. Yep. Later on that day. I opened up, oh I had my own cash. Oh, you did? You kept sending over by Keith?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was like, Keith, you have a 20. I don't carry cash. What are we buying? What are we buying? Yeah, I was like, they got double whammy, but you guys are. Um, we just love you in our life and Keith so much, and I'm happy that you were able to talk.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_03And you came on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's a little bit more. It really is for all of you that get nervous here, because I certainly wasn't. Liar. Uh it's way more comfortable than you're expecting. It is. And I think, Cammy, the way you set people up, so you're like over here and not even realizing, oh my god, there's a camera. Right. No. Yeah. Because that's that's the hard part.
SPEAKER_06You forget about it real quick.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. How can a 911 dispatcher be nervous about being recorded?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That was my butt but you're um one time I got in trouble for that though. Why? Because a lady was calling on July uh July 4th and she's like, fireworks, and it was just, but it was like we had a cop um on a pullover who got hurt by a drunk driver. Like it was like every we had a kid that fell into the fire and burned his hand in the campground. Like all the things were happening. It's July 4th, like legit emergency. Yeah, yeah. It's July 4th in Shannon. It's July 4th on a weekend. Like, and she just kept calling. And I'm like, yeah, we, you know what? As soon as we have an officer available, and then um, she's like, I gotta work tomorrow. And I'm like, so do I, right? Because I'm a dispatcher, you know, just just hammering, hammering. And then she called at 1201 or 12.02 and said, it's not July 4th anymore. Now will you send me an officer? Said, sure. And on the 26th of December, I'm coming down and I'm gonna rip your Christmas tree down and your lights.
SPEAKER_07And I just like I just like that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I just went hard. I like you. It wasn't so hard, but I was firm as the day is long.
SPEAKER_03I just and my grand just Lisa's here. You kicked the door in. At 26th, I'm taking down your Jesus off the Jesus off your mantle.
SPEAKER_01Is that a recording we can obtain? Oh my god, that would be so great.
SPEAKER_04So uh my boss was Bill Mott, and he, I mean, obviously he had to talk to me, and I knew that. Bill Mott? Yeah, like Billy Mott. Uh Dad. Dad. Oh, okay, okay. So when I walked in, he's like, Lisa, can I in his office was upstairs where Keith and Wade first started? Okay, he's like, Lisa, can I knew it was coming? Can I see you? Like, sure. What is this about? You know, like and he was trying to be firm with me, but he made me listen to it and I could see he kind of had up a little smirk. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_03I love that for you and for the person.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I can't believe she called and complained. Oh, yeah, I can 100%.
SPEAKER_03Someone that's calling on 4th of July for fireworks is definitely gonna complain.
SPEAKER_04Well, the the noise, it was an actually a noise complaint. It wasn't like safety, so that's where I lost my.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's it's 4th of July.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So and she wasn't a vet, like she was a veteran that you'd be more sensitive if it was like PTSD issues, like but still I feel like But yeah. Anyway, they're not the ones necessarily calling in either, they just hunker down and you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_04I always think of the other dispatchers that I work with, and they're just they were just so professional. Uh Deb Deb had a little um oh she can she was she's had a little creativity in her some of personal.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I like that creativity. That's a good way of spinning it.
SPEAKER_04Comical isn't yeah, so funny. So yeah, but I was like, like, I'm the one that blew it for the whole department. I lost my cool.
SPEAKER_03That's great, it's a great response.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, um, I just know that uh Mike and Joni have not been on here, and uh I did it. Now it's your turn. You win.
SPEAKER_03I know your turn. Jody, I wonder if she would. Mike would do great. You could talk sports and music with him all the time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, true. So yeah, um, I appreciate you guys, and it's great to meet you. Thanks too. Thanks for meeting. We met in like passing, but thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we really appreciate your time. All right, thanks. Right, see ya. Bye. That wasn't bad, was it?