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THE SIXTH SENSE EP. 4 | Knicks Sweep, Drake’s Iceman First Reactions, & 6ix9ine Drama
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In Episode 4 of The Sixth Sense Podcast, the hosts dive into the biggest conversations in basketball, sneaker culture, hip-hop, and internet culture with another high-energy episode full of debates, hot takes, and real conversations. From NBA playoff shakeups to luxury watch controversy, this episode covers everything happening in sports and culture right now.
The episode opens with reactions to New York sweeping Philly and a breakdown of what went wrong for the Sixers, what the future looks like for the team, and whether the Knicks are true Finals contenders. The conversation continues with discussions surrounding Donovan Mitchell vs Cade Cunningham, LeBron’s future after the Lakers’ playoff exit, Luka criticism, and whether OKC is becoming the NBA’s next dynasty.
The hosts also tap into sneaker culture during “Sneaker-Time W/ Ock,” highlighting major upcoming releases including the Air Jordan 12 “Bloodline,” Kobe 4 Protro “Draft Day,” Air Jordan 3 OG “Bin 23,” and the Nike KD 6 “Night Vision.” From pricing to hype culture and nostalgia, the segment breaks down what these drops mean for sneakerheads today.
On the hip-hop and culture side, the crew reacts to the AP x Swatch debate and whether luxury brands lose value when they become more accessible. They also discuss the 6ix9ine vs Big Bank situation, internet street culture, the legacy of Meek Mill’s “Dreams & Nightmares,” and the growing trend of streamers turning into rappers.
The episode wraps with conversation surrounding the Dr. Cheyenne Bryant controversy, fake guru culture online, and the rise of social media “experts.”
Tap in for another episode full of sports debates, hip-hop conversations, sneaker talk, trending topics, and unfiltered discussions.
00:03 — Formal Friday fits, fly talk, and Sixth Sense podcast opening energy
02:01 — Family birthdays, fatherhood, summer plans, and life updates
05:05 — New York Knicks sweep the Philadelphia 76ers — what went wrong for Philly?
13:16 — Modern NBA basketball, big men, and why the league changed
14:02 — James Harden playoff legacy talk and “tour date” stat jokes
16:04 — Oklahoma City Thunder dominating the playoffs and making history
16:52 — Shai Gilgeous-Alexander MVP praise and OKC’s championship culture
20:31 — The importance of role players and bench depth in winning championships
21:00 — Should LeBron James retire?
23:22 — Bronny James pressure, development, and LeBron protecting his son’s future
25:34 — Minnesota Timberwolves vs San Antonio Spurs — Ant-Man vs Wemby future rivalry
25:57 — Victor Wembanyama is an alien: dominance, hype, and playoff impact
26:21 — Did Wemby deserve a suspension after the elbow incident?
32:30 — Overseas basketball development vs the American system
33:11 — NBA MVP debate: Wemby, Shai, and Cade Cunningham arguments
34:45 — Finals predictions and championship picks
34:57 — Sneaker Time with Ock segment begins
42:04 — Audemars Piguet x Swatch collab takes over the internet
43:18 — Pocket watch disappointment and reactions to the AP x Swatch reveal
51:22 — Sneaker collecting, ownership culture, and actually enjoying what you buy
56:03 — 6ix9ine returns to the spotlight with more controversy
57:22 — Clout vs reality and 6ix9ine trying to prove himself to the internet
58:35 — Snitching, loyalty, double standards, and internet street culture
59:57 — Breaking down 6ix9ine’s gang involvement and downfall
01:00:28 — Why 6ix9ine was never truly accepted in New York culture
01:01:22 — Exploitation, manipulation, and the people around 6ix9ine using him
01:02:14 — Final thoughts on 6ix9ine, internet antics, and clown behavior
42:15 — First reactions to Drake’s “Iceman” rollout and internet response
43:02 — Debate over whether Drake still controls the culture after the rap battle era
44:11 — Discussion about Drake reinventing himself again and adapting to internet trends
45:04 — Is Drake underestimated now? Conversation about public perception shifting
45:52 — Comparing current Drake to earlier eras of his career and hit-making ability
46:37 — Drake fan expectations, rollout strategy, and anticipation for new music
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Freddy Shady Six Freddy Shady Freddy Six Freddy Freddy baby Yo yo yo it's your boy Freddy Hoy Blanks man and it's your young dog Coryak we back man with another episode of the Sixth Sense podcast You feel me back like we never left like we never left you looking clean my boy Bro I can't help I couldn't help but notice bro my boy pulled out the motherfucking head all black satin very sharp Sam Rossine Google very sharp thank you I appreciate that and I'm loving the color scheme everything everything suited and booted to a team the tailor suits it's a formal Friday you feel me it's a formal Friday you feel me formal Friday I say this right from the um around the time that we started I think we was on the phone one time and then Corey was like yo bro you know what we should do bro we definitely gotta gotta have a f a few episodes where we just throw it on bro so got to bro got to bro and I couldn't help but you know fall in love with that idea yeah bro it gives us it gives us an opportunity to show like a different side of us right obviously a side that I'm proud of bro like that I know about suits I was shown suits through my pop my pop taught me different color suits to obtain and keep one dry cleaned and all these different things so you know we we versatile in our in in our fashion you feel me and that's why we say we tour the fly inside of that where we come from bro you know what I mean because we we tapping in all parts man we ain't you it makes so much sense bro and another thing that I was gonna say bro is that bro we grown yes we grown men bro we at that age you feel me there's nothing wrong with it we not starting this podcast at 1819 even though bro 1819 and being able to throw on a suit is nothing wrong with it just given the fact that we're grown I think that our fan base and the people that know us the best can appreciate moments like this I agree bro you feel I agree I agree I ain't gonna lie bro I was almost I was a little late but I was almost a little later because when when when when baby girl seen me leaving the crib she like what you about to do yo going to promote where y'all going to wedding like we wedding crashers I said look look man Corey put the pressure on me turn it up you feel me but bro um but I know your closet and I know your I know your reach bro I appreciate I know who I'm talking to y'all I know the I know who I'm talking to straight like that how was your week though bro how you feel my week was well bro everything went well uh my son turned four I forgot to shout him out on the last episode y'all happy birthday Max four years old son King Max keep going keep turning up I love what love how you growing and everything we on um so we went to a little water park had some fun with the family week was good bro how about yourself bro um bro I can't complain bro a hectic week right when we get into the um the summertime the birthdays in my family it's literally turning weekend everybody got their little pocket where it's like bro I can't go nowhere right now I got to get my you know me I got to get my money right bro like being a dad being the uncle my summers is locked down bro yeah like you feel me because like it's just too many so you know it's been a hectic weekend and actually right after this I gotta go run to my brother in law's birthday party there you go so there you go like it's starting bro my shout out to my baby sister man my little sister Alice just graduated last week wow congratulations congratulations last week her birthday is on June 5th and my dad's birthday is on June 7th wow just give you a little bit wow my mom my mom's birthday on June 5th word yeah yeah Gemini shout out the Geminis my wife's birthday on June 1st that's crazy that's crazy so it's about to get hectic for me too yes and then I got a nephew that's due on the 6th there you go the Geminis man that's crazy right and mind you bro I love Geminis I love them because I ain't gonna lie you gotta love all of them it's multiple it's like they got multiple personalities listen Google it I don't know if I can say that about my little well I can say that I can say they got a couple of them bro I can say that even if it don't come out all the time it'll show his face I'm not too crazy about the horoscopes but a lot of times they be on point.
SPEAKER_04I got a lot of Geminis in my life right so it I mean it's a common theme so it's just leading me to believe that it might be a little something in that water over there when they get to mixing around with the Geminis.
SPEAKER_03Never know what the birthdays are like I'll never know like you know I'm not big on it to be able to say this birthday is that and I don't I'm not big on it I know a few of them I don't know all of them I definitely know my sign because I'm an Aries but I don't be knowing too much. I know that and I know Scorpio for a fact but the rest of them I don't know too much to be honest. Yeah you know I got it but um back to the you said you know you rocking with the colors I picked these colors specifically I got the white and the blue everybody know I rep New York Brooklyn boy the Knicks swept the Sixers I know it's uh I know it's I know it hurt bro and I ain't even really wanting your mean but bro we gotta get into this bro they did bro we gotta get into this bro because I don't think I saw that coming bro yeah bro none of us did like I mean y'all got a lot out of Brunson like um like just attacking the basket and just attacking whoever his matchup was it didn't matter his defense because he was putting he was dropping 30 and then just hanging in there on the defensive end and to the point that he was attacking so much that it was just like depleting the defense it was it was it was it was it was suffocating the defense and then Kat was able to just do his little thing and you know I'm saying like give his easy buckets and not have to do too much.
SPEAKER_04So Brunson accepted the challenge like that's what really happened been doing for the past two years. And for me with the Sixers Joel slows the the game down with his with his style of play like he gets the ball at the top of the key now he's looking for either cutters or he's looking to shoot it and sometimes like that messes up the flow and the pattern that we play with like in the chemistry that we play with now that PG catch it on a on a on a pay on a on a fast break and shoot the three you know what I'm saying everybody else can adjust because Maxi and VJ want to run they don't they don't want to really play in a half court off can't get back on defense. Yeah Joel is hobbled and injured man and that's why I said when you asked me a couple episodes ago what should we do with Joel I said we should have traded him yesterday. I love Joel I love what he gives the city I love the fact that he he put his body on the line and all these different things but bro like we've we're grown our team is not even aligned with his game no more it's just not he like clogging the paint up while we try and get in the paint with the two guards that's running up and down the court just not working out and like like I don't think that Joel's faking none of his injuries you know in the end at this point no you nobody nobody should but nobody should be saying that about that man.
SPEAKER_03That man had a broken face a broken cheekbone all type of stuff bro and he still suited up to try to go win the second round appendix because he can barely get he can't get out the second round so but I'm just like damn Joel like you mind you which is probably the reason why they fired Daryl but you just signed the man after you spoke to many physicians right word around town is I had my ears to the streets you feel me I was talking to a few of my people over there that's rocking with the Sixers and you spoke to many people bro you spoke to many physicians that all said that Joel's need would never ever be the same you doubled down and you signed him for three years. You extended him when in actuality his contract would have been over this season. Yes if they never did that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah Joel I think Joel starts his new $90 million he gets like $90 million over the next like two or three years or something like that. Right now and he can't even get up and down the court Joel getting 58 this year. Wow he gained 62 next year next year then he gets 67 the year after that that's the new um contract that they signed right you feel me that they gave him a max yeah they gave him a max you feel super max 58 62 then 67 yeah bro the top four players on the Sixers bro right their contract core combined accumulates for over 85% of the capital because we gave RUB a lot of money how are you gonna build a team around the young players which is what's necessary right now right that that's the necessity for for the Sixers I'm looking at right I agree how are you gonna do that if four of your players is 85% that means you have 15% left yeah we got to trade a B bro I think yeah I and I think I think PG should be on the table as well like I mean he's an older veteran he plays well for us but I feel like another team he could put some he could put some fans in the stands you feel me for a Sacramento or uh whoever like you know I mean for them to get PG if they be talking about us getting some bonus for MB right which I would do like I would do only because like to get off and B bro I don't think VJ or or or maxie even will ever reach their potential with him on the floor.
SPEAKER_03Well they I just don't see VJ because I feel like maxi definitely is is nearing that potential because this series that just went by Maxie was standing there like bro you got it like it's too much bro it's it's it's not it's not the game that maxi wants to play Iriese maxi came into his self pause when and B got hurt. Right that's when Maxi was able to show us like yo like I'm really one of them yeah against the Knicks last from last season when he uh he he took us back home he dropped what 50 something he was balling out there in the garden yeah hell yeah and you know bro it's just it's it's sad bro it's sad because I do feel like um I do feel like Joel and B gave the city um a lot like you feel me as far as effort yeah he gave his effort he won an MVP you know what I'm saying he was an all-star him and Ben had something special but obviously Ben's game was limited and I get it but like at this point like it's time to move off of Joel.
SPEAKER_04What's up with the process? That's my question a process fell Joel is the process right we drafted Jalil Okafor and Erlins Noel that didn't work then we drafted Joel he missed the first two seasons with a broken foot or whatever. Process failed then we drafted uh Ben Simmons and then Markel Foltz and then Markel Foltz was trash couldn't shoot forgot how to shoot or whatever he went through whatever yeah yeah shoulder surgery yeah Ben Simmons wouldn't shoot it seemed like the Sixers got bad luck my boy if you if if if you're looking at it from the way I'm looking at it bro it seemed like the Sixers just got bad luck. Well I think they I think they luck changed with the two guards that we drafted in Maxi and VJ I feel like they gonna be two good stars that's gonna be a CJ McCollum Damian Lillard type of who would you like to see on the Sixers? That's a good question right I mean we know that we sticking to we stick into Maxie mixed with Edgecomb for sure right yeah that's our that's our backcourt right who would you like to see them paired with who do you think would be a good addition let's say hypothetically we was to get rid of Joel and maybe even PG as a deal right who would you like to see us retrieve for them who would you think would be a good uh fit I mean it wouldn't happen guards it wouldn't happen but like a KD type of player right somebody who could get a KD could get could KD could play whatever offense and get a bucket when we need it and he got leadership and he's a veteran and all these different things though they need somebody like that I mean KD's serviceable he ain't the worst defender but we're gonna need a big man though I was thinking more of a big man I ain't expecting to be oh if we yeah I mean I mean like I feel like they're paired up because we like the big man we just really need him to rebound I don't want to play through another big man okay I do not want to get another star big man or I'll take a Rudy or a a Rudy Gobert or somebody like that who's just gonna defend the rim and grab boards. Right I don't want plays set up for my big man at this point. The NBA is the NBA done moved on from that shit bro but definitely for sure for sure we gotta blow up the team yes it's time to blow it up okay process is over it fell okay and we fired our GM so I'm hoping that we move on for sure bro somebody had to take the fall for that yeah I mean Daryl Mori you you you signed James Harden for what? That was your man right you you you you signed PG he missed I was gonna say that again bro after what PG did in these playoffs bro I wouldn't get rid of him bro me he played good last series but that was it and that's been his that's been the that's been the draw for him yeah so what about the Knicks do you see the Knicks going to the finals I see the path is the path is there I mean I I mean I don't know who won at the moment while we recording but I know Detroit and uh Cleveland is playing at the moment I don't know who wins I know Cleveland is up three to two so if they win they obviously move on to the next round but I don't believe in James Harden in the playoffs I just don't really know so if Cleveland is going to that next round I don't I don't see James Harden stepping up there's really nothing to believe in so what's the score there's really nothing to believe in the series is tied 3-3 the Pistons just like you said bro like isn't James Harden he folded running joke it's a running joke they say James Harden's stats look like tour dates I agree 315 425 yeah yeah because he's shooting him because he's James Harden but it ain't going in bro he did that to his last he did that to us on the Sixers five six years in a row yes you mean to tell me everything his whole career his whole career no because when he was on OKC he wasn't like that on OKC though he didn't show up in the finals but they called him young they said he was young and he was but then he moved on to the Rockets and then as soon as the playoffs start he just be folding folding and he one of my favorite players made it to the finals when he was okay but then he had he had somebody okay so I what we can say is James Harden cannot lead a team as the number one and number two option that's stamped right now right at this point in his career yes but even back then like he couldn't do it even when he was young when he was the man he couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_03But he was still leading the team throughout the season he just couldn't say in the playoffs yeah now he can't he fell because he folds he fell James Harden is Sir Foldilocks like that's a fact like yes that nigga like I said bro the running joke is that his stats look like tour dates sir foldilocks I like that yo that's a bad drawing Brody tour dates bro five for 16 it's ridiculous six for 18 right you James Harden bro and you ain't playing no defense like you already don't play no defense no defense so you can't come on bro you're not like come on bro he he yeah bro I don't even know I don't even want to mean too much okay whatever OKC how we how we how how are we viewing this run this historical run right that OKC is on right now OKC is what they're 8 and 0 this year in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah they just swept uh Brian and them two sweeps clean sweeps yeah they won their last two games last year to get them to to win the finals so they're 10 and oh yeah in the playoffs right now going into the Western conference finals right now yeah 10 and 0 basically what you think about what Shea is doing what you think there's um damn bro young boy they had 30 points Wallace no what's his uh the guard the guard yeah he balling with like but got dreads overall yeah the the I forget his name that's crazy but from my mind how you feel about like how um feel about what they I think I I like the team is not being celebrated the proper way because they saying that they file bait and they all this kind of stuff because it's hating but I mean that's what comes with the territory you know when you when you at the top is lonely up there um I'm a fan of Shay and I'm a fan of they system the OKC system they was patient bro they traded away they stars they they culture Kendrick Perkins Russell Westbrook you know all the different things that happened then they had a little juice when they bought back Chris Paul and they brought Chris Paul in and Mello and a young Shay and all that stuff but they grew their team through a draft and that's what I really respect. You know you all your role players is your bench you feel me all on and off your bench you know I mean you got Chet Homgren you got you got a whole team and they really seem like they really rock with each other Jalen Williams is hurt. Right Jalen Williams has been in and out the lineup throughout the year like the whole year for real.
SPEAKER_03He's out right he actually said like I'm gonna get a ring he said it'd be crazy if I get a ring in street clues that's heavy that's heavy but I like OKC bro I mean they do play a different brand of basketball it's not as exciting because they just go to the free throw line 20 30 times a game and you know Shay rule book niggas but Shay is Shay is butter bro just the crossovers and the in the in the fundamentals to his game I like to watch them but a lot of fans say that they boring I feel like it's just hate bro yeah I feel like niggas is hating on them because they the top dog bro which always happens yeah it always happens bro niggas always gonna have something to say niggas always gonna try to you feel me like try to bring you back down you feel me and and and it's just like bro cut it out bro and shout out McCain like you over there bro I don't know why Darryl Mori traded you I I still like lost bro like that made no sense percentage is like things that like he's like one of the top three point percentages like on some weird stuff in the playoffs bro it's like the number one all time type shit like for um his three point percentage I forgot the stat it was like for a series it was like number one all time in the playoffs for a series that's crazy bro number two all time for like the playoffs overall like you feel me yeah and that just goes to show like another reason why the nigga needed to get fired because you was just kind of making time to go bro like you feel me every every every every move he made just just kind of didn't work out bit him in the ass pause yeah like for real for real and it really bit Philadelphia yeah like sure we paid the price you feel me it cooked us but bro back to Shay and then what the OKC is doing bro the fact that Jalen Williams isn't playing isn't playing and they're going this crazy but they got the team brought the benches stepping up everybody stepping up bro it says a lot about the team it says a lot about the coaching it says a lot about how much belief they have in themselves and how much better they are than everybody else right yep I agree you get what I'm saying and it's and it's it's not about no it's not about one person on that team you could tell they selfless like for sure that's the ones that win the championship the ones that don't care how it get done as long as it gets done for sure for sure that's that's that's championship pedigree that's championship DNA and they leader is humble.
SPEAKER_04So they were so happy yeah that um the young boy got all of um the young boy had had 30 he said bro i think that um for the la series he think he said i think he's been our best player yeah this series yeah you know what i mean and it's like in with in a good in a good a good bench and a good role player joe that i'm talking about uh i'm not sure isaiah joe but a good bench and a good role player is definitely like you just take your moments when they come you just take up take advantage of your opportunities if you got a Shea on the floor and Chet Honggren and other players who people is paying that the scouting report is on and you got open shots guess what you're supposed to do hit them drawings you're supposed to make them you're supposed to get yours get yours go get your dub you you could tell that they're they are prepared yes that's what I'm seeing well coached them well coached well coached they're prepared they're prepared for everything bro down the stretch every time the Lakers try to make it a game bro they like nah not today I'm sorry not today I'm sorry another question bro is it time for LeBron to retire no you don't think so nah bro earned the right to age in his career however it is he wants he gave us his life bro right he gave us his life right you know I'm saying like I get the criticism of LeBron he's a pass first player he's a pass first superstar and that irritates a lot of people because he's not who they Idol is. You feel me? But bro, he earned the right to just play ball. He ain't bothering nobody. Ain't like he's causing no trouble, no drama. We know Brian is out there to do his thing and enjoy his career. Let the man live.
SPEAKER_03How about as far as his legacy though, bro? Because one thing that I feel like is very, very important, bro. And Kobe said this. He said, bro, I don't never ever want to be that guy on the court, bro. You don't want to get carried out. The man. And like, yeah, you feel me? I want to walk off the court. I don't want them to have to carry me off the court. I don't never want to be this icon, this iconic player that I was, and then I don't know when it's time to leave.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think LeBron's camp is really smart. And I think that LeBron is handled the NBA hype and all the love and all the accolades and everything he got. He handled it well, bro. So I think LeBron knows his biological clock. I think he's gonna know when it's time to hang it up. I think he also is strategic and when he's gonna hang it up. Because he's still averaging 23, 24 game, six rebounds, six assists, whatever it is. He still played majority of the games. He took his team to a second round. You know what I mean? Like, so he's looking at it like the go where?
SPEAKER_01Without losing.
SPEAKER_04It's people making 200, 300 million that's supposed to do that job. And he's doing it at 41. So I think he earned that right, bro. I understand.
SPEAKER_03I totally, totally understand, bro.
SPEAKER_04I think he also enjoyed playing with his son.
SPEAKER_03Another thing that I really, really honestly do feel with all my heart, bro, is that LeBron is not going to leave the league until Bronny can stand on his own too. Because I feel like uh the major reason why Bronny even got a little bit of playing time in these playoffs that we seen him. He didn't get too much, but he got minutes in the playoffs is because it's Braun.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But if Bron was to leave, Bron's gonna get lost in the sauce. I mean, Bronny gonna get lost in the sauce. Bronny gonna, they're gonna have him in the G League. And then you feel like.
SPEAKER_04But believe me, bro, if Mike's son had been had made it into the NBA and did well, they would have gave Mike the same opportunity. No, and I'm not saying it's nothing.
SPEAKER_03I'm saying that that's why I feel like even if he wanted to retire right now, let's say hypothetically LeBron was ready to retire. Yes. I feel like that's what's keeping him here. Yeah. Because he knows as long as he's on the team, his son got a job.
SPEAKER_04And as he should. You get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03So at the end of the day, and if I'm his son, I'm looking at it like, yeah, let's ride this out, Pop. You know what I'm saying? At least until Bronny develops a little more and Bronny becomes like he steps out the shadow a little bit. You feel me? And he could become whether it's gonna be if he unfolds into a superstar or if he unfolds into just a great role player until he happens and the thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't see LeBron retiring. Yeah, and the thing is with sports, like for me, like I told my daughter this. She played field hockey and she plays lacrosse, but they was both her first times playing each time, each, each, each, each season. So I was teaching her and I was telling her, I'm like, listen, you're gonna learn the basics and the fundamentals of every game. That's your coach's job. But sports is not really fun until you become him or her. You know what I'm saying? Until you come really, until you really start putting in that work. You know what I'm saying? That's when you're gonna start enjoying it, the process more, enjoying the work, the practice, everything like that. So, you know, like with LeBron, but with Bronny, I think Bronny just gotta step into him. Like, yeah, bro, I'm here. I'm here for a reason, and I'm gonna let my game do the talk. And I think he's when he's out there, he's trying to do everything right. And that's a person that's just not comfortable enough to let that raw talent show. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you can't do everything right. You feel me? Minnesota versus the Spurs. Okay. This is my favorite series. It's a tight series. This is my favorite series. I'm gonna be honest with you.
SPEAKER_04Um But Minnesota only seemed to win when Wimby gets when Wimby's out. They whooped him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, true. They did get that W.
SPEAKER_03They whooped him, you know what I mean? But you know, a lot of people don't see Minnesota beating the Spurs, even though I am a Minnesota fan. You picked them, yeah. You feel me? But I don't see them beating the Spurs, to be honest with you. Because Wemby's too much, bro. Oh, he's an alien. We talked about it. He's an alien, bro. Do you feel like he should have got suspended after that elbow?
SPEAKER_04That would have made a big difference. I don't feel like he should have got suspended, but I would say that they suspended people for a lot less. I mean, Draymond, well, Draymond got suspended. Well, he kicked a nigga in the ball. So nah, Draymond, we can't talk about it. Draymond be wildin', bro. Draymond choked that nigga. That one nigga, he grabbed Dra's neck. That was um who was it, Rudy? Rudy.
SPEAKER_03What's wrong with Draymond? Do you feel like he should have got suspended after he threw that crazy elbow?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like I mean, I don't I don't think he should have got suspended because, like, he's the star player and he's the people we want to see. Like, he's the people, it's still a business at the end of the day. Right, right. But I do think that people got suspended for a lot less. You know what I mean? I've seen different things that happen throughout playoff series with players and and agitation and all that stuff happens in the playoffs. It's a part of it. But I mean, he he legitimately threw a crazy elbow at crazy. Yeah, he took, we try to take ball out in the heat of the moment, type job.
SPEAKER_03But the play right before that, which is the reason why I feel like they didn't do too much, like they didn't suspend him, they already kicked him out the game. Okay, but like the play right before that, bro, they just bro, the ball hit the hell out of Wimby on the head. And they missed that call. Yeah, yeah. So it's like I remember the coach says something like, yo, like, I feel like the refs need to protect the players so that the players don't have to do these type of things.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but Wimby, ask all the big men that was dominant in the NBA, did they get the whistle that they were supposed to get every time? It don't happen. It don't happen, bro. Don't happen every time. It don't happen. So, so Wemby just needs to hit the gym, in my opinion, when it comes to that. Because if Shaq went to the as many free throws as Shaq missed, if he went to the line every time he was supposed to, every time he got hit, you probably wouldn't have a game.
SPEAKER_03Well, I feel like on the contrary, is like Wemby, Wemby is doing a phenomenal job as is, right? What we're talking about right now isn't really like a normal part of the game. It is kind of sort of, but it's not because these examples files it's not a part of this this era's game.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was a part of the game.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but even then, bro, you're gonna wanna come through the lane, you gonna get though. You feel me? You gonna get you gonna get you gonna get murked. Right, and that's understandable. You mean that's not the okay thing to do. That's not basketball. You know what I mean? So it's like when when the coach says this, I feel like he said the right thing. As a ref, yes, I'm gonna let y'all play. I'm gonna let y'all play because that series is very, very like physical. Physical. Very physical. But it's like at the same time, it's like at some point in time, I need you to protect my players so that nobody don't come out here and get hurt. Yeah. I need you to do your job and to ref the game, whereas though niggas don't think that we just out here in a WWE Royal Rumble match. Like, you feel me? I don't think it'll ever get to that, though.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't think it'll be.
SPEAKER_03No, but I'm just saying, though. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, we can't let it get that far. Like, I don't think that Wemby should even be in that position where he feels like he has to do that. Okay. Because that was kind of bro. Imagine how upset you gotta be. And we don't never see Wemby react like that.
SPEAKER_04Like, it's not like he got a little, but he got a spark to him, though. No, he do, but he not Draymond, though. No, not Draymond. He not Ben Wallace. Ben was tripping too. He not Ron Artess. Ben might sock you. You feel me? Yeah, Ron Artess is definitely sock you.
SPEAKER_03Like, he not one of them niggas.
SPEAKER_04Don't run up on meta, y'all.
SPEAKER_03You get what I'm saying? So, bro, you gotta, you, you, you gotta protect that's your job, is to protect the players.
SPEAKER_04I understand, yeah. So, of course, if I'm his coach, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03Of course. And we, I feel like as fans, we like when it gets a little chippy.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03You feel me? We like when it's a little um, excuse my lack of words, but a little more rugged, a little more rough part of the case. I agree. You feel me? I agree. Like, we don't want that soft ass basketball that these niggas this we want a little sauce in our game. You feel me, bro? Like, yeah, but at the same time, like I said, bro, we don't want to see nobody get hurt, bro.
SPEAKER_04I agree.
SPEAKER_03We don't want these niggas wilding niggas up in the middle of the game, and like now niggas want to rumble. No, bro. We want we want to we want basketball, bro. You feel me? Yeah, we want basketball.
SPEAKER_04Let's get back to the game now.
SPEAKER_03We don't need nobody getting thrown out the game. That's the most important thing, bro. You feel me? So I can agree with the coach, and I do feel like the refs, even though we understand that Wemby's gonna get fouled more because niggas can't stop that man, bro. That's true.
SPEAKER_04You can't like I mean he's shooting, he's dribbling, he he spin move, he can rebound. He got five blocks a game. On the back, yeah, three, four blocks a game. Like those niggas already mad because he's blocking all eight. All eight plays, bro. He's blocking threes. Bro, you at the three line thinking like I got this one.
SPEAKER_03Watch this. You ain't got it. As soon as they kicked him out the game, Corey, the Timberwolves turned right up. Turn right up.
SPEAKER_04And all but credit to them though. Credit to them. If your cornerback goes down and you putting in the backup, it's like, oh yeah, let's let's go straight at him.
SPEAKER_03We run it, we run it down. We're going straight at him. You feel me? He ain't ready. You just see the difference that the game, like the whole flow of the game, changed immediately. For sure. As soon as he left the game, bro, now everybody getting dunked on. Everybody going to the cup, everybody going to the, you feel me? Now we to the Baja the whole time. So protect the players. And let's not just make it a Wemby thing. Let's make it a players thing overall. You feel me? For sure. I can understand that. You feel me? For sure. You got the um, so you got the Spurs winning, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm gonna stick with my depict.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna stick with the Spurs, right? Yeah, I can definitely see the Spurs.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if Wimby ready to go, good to go. I think Wimby is is is is is unstoppable, but no, that's a fact.
SPEAKER_03That's just my opinion. That's a fact, bro. He's definitely unstoppable. Not even a little bit, bro. That nigga unstoppable, bro. Niggas can't rock with Wimby, bro. Wemby niggas ain't doing nothing with Wimby. I'll be honest with you, bro. Like, he wanna he him.
SPEAKER_04Wim, yeah, Wimby and Wimby, like Wimby could put the bo he could dribble the basketball. Bro, that is like some. He's got a handle. Yeah, like you don't see that. Like, you don't see that, bro. Like in the NBA. But again, like he was over there in France, like perfecting his game, playing with professionals. Like, that that that's the that's the advantage on that, you know. If you go that route, you know what I mean? The college route, they're gonna try to teach you how to play a team game and you know, all these different things, and see you the fundamentals, but they it seemed like overseas they teaching them a little something different. It's something different in that water, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03And they playing with men, they playing with grown men, grown-ups, Luca, Wemby. For sure. These niggas is different, yes, bro. These niggas is different.
SPEAKER_04So you think Wemby, Sabar, you think Wemby gonna win an MVP? Who is your MVP pick this year? I don't really have one, but I could see it. Wemby got the defensive player of the year already.
SPEAKER_03I think if when do they choose it? They choose it right before the finals. It's right before the finals, yeah. I think if K get to the finals, he has a great chance.
SPEAKER_04Wow. But they don't consider the playoffs. This is regular season. Right, but they vote before the playoffs. Oh, so it's already in. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03They just pre they just want to present it at the finals. I think, I think, I don't know, bro. I see Wemby or K. Wow. Okay. I see it Wemby or Kate. Yeah, I see Wemby. I'm tripping. What the fuck am I talking about, bro?
SPEAKER_04Who Shay? Shay, Shay, two times? Yeah, I'm wilding. Two times, okay. Yeah, bro. I can see Wemby though. Yeah, I can see. Because he changed his whole team up. Like, like he they they they could possibly be in a f in the in the finals. Like, that's that's heavy. And he won defensive player of the year. So and this was what his third year, second year, something like that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, third year. So yeah, turn out. I feel like I definitely, definitely feel like um, as far as the MVP race, bro, I feel like it's I feel like it's a tight race. You feel me? Yeah, I feel like them niggas is right, all around each other. But if I was to pick one person and go with it, I gotta go with Shea, bro. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I'm gonna stick, like I said, I'm gonna stick with my pick of the Spurs to go to the finals, and I'm gonna take Wimby, man. I feel like Wimby dominated in all the all the right areas and led his team the proper way. He deserved to be rewarded for that.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so Spurs and Knicks, then.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Spurs and Knicks. That'd be a good joint, actually. That'd be a great joint. Yeah, that'd be a great joint. Yep. So we jumping into it, man. Sneaker time with Ock, man. My favorite segment of the day. So we're gonna start first, bro. Something light. We got the Air Jordan 12 bloodline. They 210 price price point, and they drop on the 23rd. Um, for me, I like 12s. 12s is some of my favorite Jays. Uh the taxi 12s, uh, the playoffs, uh, the flu game 12s, the playoffs. All of those was dope 12s. Um, for me though, I'm not gonna cop these. I'm gonna leave the all black with the little red hint of red. I'm gonna leave it for somebody else, bro.
SPEAKER_03Okay. I like these drawings.
SPEAKER_04How about you? You coping the dropping?
SPEAKER_03I like these drawings. Um I will cop them. Okay. I will copy them for the closet. Yeah, I will cop these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good black sneak though, for sure. Yeah, and more than likely, me knowing me, I probably hoop in these. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Good hoop shoe. Yeah, and the 12s is some of the most comfortable uh J's to me. Yeah, they a good silhouette. Some of them J's get uncomfortable, bro. I love balling with the fours. The fours, y'all. Yeah, I'll ball in whatever is dirty. Yeah, I don't know. 23s, they're my favorite hoop shoes of all time, but they not out for me. Yeah. So next we got up the Kobe Four Pro Tros. These the draft day editions. Um, I seen this colorway before, I feel like. Uh, they price point at 190, they dropping on the 26. Uh the Kobe shooter Charlotte Hornets. I seen a I seen a right, I seen a statistic saying, yes, definitely Charlotte Hornets vibe, but I seen a statistic saying that Kobe sneaker, the uh Kobe 4, and I think the Kobe 6, maybe, but Kobe's in general are the most worn sneaker in the NBA. Like everybody, basically, like 90, like a big percentage of the NBA players, they all wear Kobe's. Is that now post? Yeah, post post is deaf, yeah. Like right now, yep. So, but a lot of them have collabs where they're able to make the colors and different designs that they want, but uh they still wear the Kobe's. Right. Yeah, they they they like one of the most popular shoes. But I know DeMar DeRozan love wearing DeRozan, yep, yep, DeRozan, uh Jalen Brunson. Um, uh I think even Tobias Harris, like a few players like I seen in the playoffs this year, uh, definitely still rocking some dope. My boy PJ Tucker. PJ got every sneak, though. PJ a real sneaker collector. PJ, if you're out there, come on the show. Love to have you, bro. PJ. We could talk sneaks, all that different things. I know you be around. Um, so yeah, I'm gonna cop these, bro. I definitely will ball the knees, definitely put these up in the closet and break them out on a uh little uh Planet Fitness or what's that uh LA fitness floor? Pull up the Springfield. Yeah, I'll be knowing where y'all at. I'm gonna pull up and jump out, hit a couple trees and these for sure. How about you? Okay, uh Kobe Ford Pro Trolls.
SPEAKER_03I think I'll pass on these joints. Okay. Yeah, I'm not crazy about it. Charlotte Hornets is not really doing it for me, to be honest with you. Yeah, it is. But shout out Kobe. I love Kobe, much respect for Kobe. You feel me? But these just not, they're not really, they I don't know, they're not really speaking to me. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04We don't got like every it's something for everybody, and that joint, them drawings just ain't for you.
SPEAKER_03Definitely go dope with our with our little straight like that.
SPEAKER_04So next we're gonna move on to the Air Jordan 3 OG, the Ben 23s. I'm hearing that it's less than 3,000 pairs of these in the world, y'all. In the world. So if you get your hands on these on a raffle or sneakers app or wherever it is you at, you get your hands on these, hold on to these heaters. It's gonna be a couple times y'all hear me say this in the sneaker time without hold on to these heaters, they're gonna be worth some cheese. It's less than 3,000 pairs. We in the whole world. Everybody trying to get their hands on them. Good joke. You get your hands on them, hold on to them. I would definitely cop these. Um, not for the wear, definitely just the tuck. Um, I I do view sneakers as an investment. That's that's that's like some certain pairs, they're an investment. You know what I mean? You can hold on to them, especially if you don't wear them. You know what I mean? You can give them to your child or you can sell them later on down the line. So I definitely cop these. How about you?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, these joints are dope, bro.
SPEAKER_04Good price point, though. High price point, y'all. 350. Yeah. You know, drop it at 350 and they drop it on a they drop it on the 15th. So these joints is dope. I love them.
SPEAKER_03I love the red. Red, good red. I was trying to think about it.
SPEAKER_04When we was in high school, I feel like like they was making a lot of red sneaks back then. When they dropped the all reds, he was doing it. The dunks. Uh uh, yeah, the dunks. Yeah. No, no, not the red forces.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, all red forces. Yeah, that's when they had dropped the all-red forces around that time.
SPEAKER_04They dropped the all-red um fours, the Toro Johns. Yeah, it was a lot of red sneaks out there. Yeah, for sure. Actually, I would definitely prime was dropping.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I did have a pair of all red shoes. They was uh Giuseppi's. Oh my god, them zippers. Yo, Giuseppe's was like boots, bro. I used to zipper.
SPEAKER_04I remember them drones. I had a couple pairs of Gipps. The ones that they they it's like a strap, but it's really, really puffy.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Real puffy strap. I had them drones.
SPEAKER_04I had the metal strap ones and all that. Yeah. Sure. So you copping these for sure. Nah, for sure. All right, that's a bet. And last on the sneaker time with Ock, man, we got the Nike KD6, the Night Vision edition. Um, these just bring back memories. If you know, you know about the KD wave. KD had a run with sneakers, the Aunt Pearls, like we talked about in the other uh KD model, and the uh uh the the uh the breast cancer ones was the Aunt Pearls, and I think the the Easter drones was the teal, and they was just fire. But the KD sixes is out. I'm gonna pass on these, I'm gonna leave these for the youngins and hope they uh pick up on what we putting down with this nostalgic what these is. This nostalgic feel, man. KDs used to do it, man. That's all I'm gonna say. You could dress them up or dress them down, however you wanted to do it, but I'm gonna pass on these.
SPEAKER_03I rock with these. These were some of my favorite KDs. Uh-huh. These was the um, I think these was the first or second KDs that I ever grabbed. Okay. I think they were the first ones. I grabbed these drones. A different colorway, of course, when they came out, but I grabbed these drones. That was like 2014 or something like that, bro. Okay. I remember these. I think I would pass just because of the colors. Yeah, I don't like the colors that much. I'm not too crazy about the colors, but yeah. I duh, I I I I like them though. I want to say that I do like them though. I love these, this style of KD. I love the fact that the laces was on the side a little bit. You feel me? Yeah. It was just different, bro. Yeah, it was a different model shoe for sure. I'm not crazy about low top sneaks. That's another reason why I passed on the court.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the the J's that drop in low top is not for me either. Yeah. These are the rare joins I had, bro.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wow. Yeah, there they go. Them the only rare shoes I ever had in my life, bro.
SPEAKER_04And that wraps up Sneaker Time Badok, y'all.
SPEAKER_03Go cop up. Feel me? Definitely go cop up, man. Go cop up. And like Corey said, bro, if you get your hands on them threes, hold on to them.
SPEAKER_04Hold them heater, draws. Less than 3,000 pairs in the world. That's that means that they're a special draw. You feel me? And the fact that they are ready putting them out for 350 just lets you get it. Let you know the quality. Yep. And the quality that's gonna be behind them. Because Nike and Mike, they get they get tricky with certain certain certain J's for sure.
SPEAKER_03They get busy. Bro, you know, bro, it's like it's the talk of the town right now. Go ahead, let me know. Something that's that's just going crazy. Yes. There's nowhere, like, it was like for like three days straight, bro. You open up your Instagram, you open up whatever. That's all they talk about. All that they talk about is everywhere. It's like they had to have AP had to put some money behind the like the way that they the Instagram was programmed to show you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It was the out, but bro, when something gets mentioned in the algorithm too much or get searched too much by different people, that's when they just overload it.
SPEAKER_03Nah, Corey. AP had to put some money behind that, bro. I don't think so, bro. How is and bro, you it you could not screw you seen it at least five, six times on your timeline, bro. That's true. It was too crazy, but AP and Swatch is dropping a collab. Yes, they are. The collab is rumored to be around five hundred to five hundred twenty dollars. Okay. First of all, how do you feel about the fact that it's not going to be a wristwatch, it's going to be a pocket watch.
SPEAKER_04I think that, I think that everybody jumped the gun thinking that those images was real because immediately I went to Audemar Paguette Instagram to see the rollout and see like what it is that he was talking about. And we never saw actual pictures of what they were showing like early on into the rollout. So when I was seeing the watches, I'm like, either these images is like something else, or or I'm just completely off. So I was doing my research like everybody else, but I mean, what research, you don't know where to, you know, who to believe, you know. So um when I found out that it was a pot it was a pocket watch, it made a lot of sense, right? Obviously, people who own uh real royal local. Othemar Forget watches that they paid upwards of $200,000 for was upset about it, feeling like, yo, I'm an actual collector, and y'all about to drop a toy watch that's basically the same, basically the same, y'all the same watchmaker. So it's made with the same, a lot of the same products, and a lot of the engineering is the same inside of the watch. So it it's not fair that I didn't invest all this money. So it made sense that it was a pocket watch. But with that being said, I think it's a dope idea, bro. I think it's I think it gives the the average consumer opportunity to experience the baguette, the automar baguette company, and what their watchmaking is is is made of. They one of the greatest watch companies in the world. You know what I mean? And a lot of people might wear, you might go to Louis and buy a watch, but guess what? Louis are not, they're not watchmakers, they're designers. They you know, I mean the watch looks nice, but it could just it could be the the inner workings of it could be the equivalence to something that's like hundreds of dollars cheaper, right? Right? Right when you go to Altimar or Rolex or you know, all these different places, they are watchmakers. This is what they do. So I think it's dope to let the community in and let people who can who who are interested be able to buy into the company and get themselves a AP and say they got one. Right. Why not? You feel me? Why not? How about yourself, bro? I was so so disappointed. Ooh.
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SPEAKER_04Thought we was getting a wristwatch. Bro, we was about to be we picked yo, we picked colors, y'all. Me and Shreddy picked colors, y'all. I'm gonna keep it a bean. We pick colors. I was gonna go what I wanted. I wanted to go orange or uh orange or teal or coral coral.
SPEAKER_03I wanted the coral, yeah. I was going, I was going blue. I was going because they had three different shades of blue on there. They had the navy, the navy drawn, then they had like sky blue, sky blue, then they had like a like a suit color, yeah. Yeah, you feel me? So, bro, I was sea blue is dope, bro. You feel me? Yeah, I was so disappointed, bro. Yes, I feel like we all were to be honest, if we being real, bro, because it was people in the line that was disappointed. It's a people like once they seen it, when we seen, yeah, they like yo, I'm asking other people stayed because they know that uh the the resale value is gonna be crazy.
SPEAKER_04Well, I think the jewelers is gonna get a hold of them and they're gonna start busting them down, putting all of the uh diamonds in it and making it similar to what they do with G-Shocks, and it's gonna become a fad, and people gonna start hanging them from their pockets and all that.
SPEAKER_03First of all, a few people already got the wrist uh the the the Yeah, I was seeing a few of y'all with that.
SPEAKER_04I was trying to understand people already got the band made, number one.
SPEAKER_03We know that that's gonna happen. Right. There's no way in this day and age, it's 2026. People already got the band made. You feel me? Another thing that I'm hearing, bro, um allegedly, um, this watch is is always gonna be available. Yeah. Like, so niggas is in line, niggas is in line, okay. You're getting it at first, but I'm hearing that six months from now, you're gonna be able to go into swatch and be able to get the watch.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but it it I think it, I think with the people that's in line, they just try to make a quick flip. They just trying to be the first to have it so they can flip it or sell it or however.
SPEAKER_03Like I'm saying, because you can just go like this what I'm hearing though. Yeah, we don't know. But what's the point of, and this is just for me saying this, right? What's the point of going and buying it from the reseller if you can just go to Swatch and still get it for the 500? I agree. You get what I'm saying? I agree. So, and and you know, this is all alleged because we don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know, um, we don't know if it's gonna sell out or not. We don't know if they only have a limited amount of uh pieces made or anything like that. You feel me? Right. Something interesting though, bro, that um I I I I looked up and then I found is that so AP they um bro, they they wanted to um they wanted to um take the the shape of the watch. The octagon shape. The octagon shape. Yes. They went, they lost. In the courtroom, yes. Feel me? Twice. Yeah. They took it um out of the US and in the US. Yeah. They lost twice. Yes. While they was trying to um, what's the word that I'm looking for, bro?
SPEAKER_04They were trying to like like like brand it. Like basically. They were trying to make it like an uh uh uh only a only a figure that they can use to.
SPEAKER_03So they lost. They said that there's no way you got it.
SPEAKER_04Like Rolex has their their their design and the other uh other.
SPEAKER_03They tried to um, man, we're gonna have to cut this. Hold up, bro. Give me a second. Copyright. Thank you. Three, two. So something that I learned, bro, is that AP went and they tried to copyright the shape. Yeah, the octagon shape. Octagon shape, right? Mm-hmm. And they lost, bro. Yes. On two different occasions, they went, they tried to copyright this shape so that they would be the only ones. And if anyone else was to do it, any other watch companies, anybody like that, yeah, they will be able to sue them. Yeah. Obviously. Yes. Because you can't. They lost twice. They lost in the US and they lost, I think, in France or something like that, right? In Europe or something like that. This is the reason why they said, you know what? Since we can't do this, we're gonna drown the market ourselves. We're not gonna let you guys be able to just go take our idea and make all this money off of it. You feel me? Obviously, all these cheaper watch brands was obviously after they lost, they was gonna run with it. You feel me? Yeah. So they said, no, we're not gonna allow that to happen. They got with Swatch, and this is the reason why now we're getting this cheaper, um, more affordable version of the AP.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think it, and that's why I like it. You know, and it was smart business move on they end because their name is still all over it. Exactly. And it's like, it's it's like we licensing this collab here. This is like, and they're gonna eat off of it. Exactly. I kind of think that it's a it's a full circle, dope idea. Um, but again, I think it's dope making things affordable for people, man. You feel everybody could feel the love, everybody can be a part of it. I might not be at the level of a $200,000 or a $50,000 watch. Bro, but if I can get me one for a couple hundred and I'm in the community, like what's wrong with that?
SPEAKER_03I could never understand why so many of um these influencers and so many of these, you know, the the these celebrities, they was online going crazy to me. They was to me.
SPEAKER_04To be honest with you, you know what that screams, that screams that you bought that watch just you didn't buy that watch because you liked it. You bought it for status or whatever else. I'm not into that. I'll never be that guy. Right. Anything that I buy, anything that I purchase, I'm buying it because I like it. Right. You know what I'm saying? The same thing goes with sneaker collecting. A lot of people out here, oh, I collect sneakers, but you don't wear them. So you collecting them, you collecting them to be what? The guy that got them? Well, wait, bro, you just said that you if you grab the red threes, you're not gonna rock them. That's that's one pair. But I'm just saying, like, it's dudes that get away a general release and be like, I'm not, I'm gonna hold.
SPEAKER_03The majority of your collection is for you to wear. Yes. The one is for you to out with, it's for you to feel me? Yes. And I can understand that, bro. And that's very, very understandable. Enjoy it, bro. Enjoy it, it's for you to enjoy. This is why I spent the money in the first place. Exactly. I might put them up. Yes, take good care of it.
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SPEAKER_03But you definitely gonna get a layer two. There you go. Or three or four. You feel me? This is the reason why we spending this money, it's so that we can have fun with these items. You feel me? So I don't feel like they even have a right really to even be upset, bro.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03It's not your brand.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And at the end of the day, like, it's it's it's not like it's not for, it's not for them. It's for, it's for the it's for it's for the us. It's for the it's for the exact. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Like, bro, it's cool, like, it's all good. You still got your AP, bro. Right. Your AP. Who's to say that? This is the thing about it, bro. And that, like, that it's so dumb what they're saying, right, bro? This is a whole different um, everything about this watch is different than the APs that you know are $200,000 and everything like that. Like, they didn't come out with no gold one.
SPEAKER_04They don't have no band. There's no band.
SPEAKER_03You get what I'm saying? But even if, Corey, even let's just say that the colors that we thought was gonna come out, the way that it was gonna come out. They that's totally different than the ones, like, it's a difference. That's what I say.
SPEAKER_04It's the mindset. Like, I seen DDG say, watch on it. Yeah, because like I be around chicks, they don't even know what our what I got on. Yeah, so you so basically you would you you again, you buying stuff for all the wrong reasons, bro. Corny niggas gonna be corny niggas.
SPEAKER_03Simple as that. Because there was even a few celebrities that was like, bro, like, what is wrong with y'all niggas, bro? Why not, bro? Why not let our fans? Why not let our fans or people that got able to.
SPEAKER_04They got kids.
SPEAKER_03You know what I'm saying? Yes. It's like, bro, like, I hate when people, because of money, right, bro, they lose touch.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_03So now basically. You feel me? You telling me because AP and Swatch is a collaboration. Yes. And it's affordable. Yes. You're upset because somebody who doesn't have as much money as you will have a watch that's similar to you.
SPEAKER_04From the same company. That neither of us own. What are we doing? Like, I'm buying it for the same reason you bought it, right? It's just at a different price point.
SPEAKER_03I can't have them reasons. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03I like that's something that really, really pains me with the direction that, you know, the world is even going in nowadays. Because, like I said, bro, out of all the celebrities that talked about the watch, bro, majority of them was talking down on the fact that AP's doing his collab and that people they're coming out with an affordable watch. You get what I'm saying? Something that's something that's closer to the majority of the world. I agree. As if AP's coming out with this watch, that's gonna change something in your life. You're still who you are. Your bank account isn't changing. Nothing about your life is changing, bro. Yes, yes, us. Yep. So you don't want us to be happy.
SPEAKER_04Right. You don't want us to be a part of the community. You get what I'm saying? We can't come to the cookout, like what's the difference?
SPEAKER_03I think that's beyond corny, bro, to be honest with you, bro. Like, so you feel me? Shout out to AP, shout out to Swatch for the collab. Yeah, I think it's a dope collab. Um, I do see myself grabbing one of them, maybe one or two of them. You feel me? Um, yeah, and I'm grabbing the band. You feel me, bro? And I'm gonna put that joint right on the band, you feel me? And if anybody got something to say with that, bro, you feel me? Come holla at me, bro. You feel me? For real, for real, bro. Because y'all niggas is tweaking, bro. That's right. Y'all niggas is tweaking, bro. You feel me? We deserve nice things too. I'll leave it at that. You feel me, bro? I agree, bro. You deserve nice things too, bro. Your kids deserve nice things too, bro. Even if God doesn't have it in the plans, bro, for us to be millionaires, which he does, you feel me? Because it's just you feel me? Regardless, bro, everybody deserves nice things.
SPEAKER_04That's right. Or opportunity to get them.
SPEAKER_03You get what I'm saying? Everybody deserves it, bro. We're all humans, bro. We're all one, bro. We all believe the same. There's nothing, bro, that we're gonna be able to take with us when it's all said and done. I agree. When you die, you can't take it with you. At all. So stop hating. Stop hating. Stop hating, bro. This is this is lame nigga activity.
SPEAKER_04Indeed.
SPEAKER_03That's the only way I can look at it, bro. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Indeed, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Bro. Our favorite rat is back outside. Our favorite at this point. I'm sorry. Their favorite rat. The world's favorite rat is back outside.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Every time 69 pop out, it seems like he's saying a lot of controversial stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03For sure.
SPEAKER_04He's a controversial person.
SPEAKER_03For me, it'd be a lot of clickbait. It'd be a lot of um damn, what's the perfect word that I can use?
SPEAKER_04Acting.
SPEAKER_03I don't think that he's acting, bro. I really do think that this is him.
SPEAKER_04Yelling. A lot of yelling.
SPEAKER_03But how do you feel about what is it? The streets are dead, I guess, or the streets are a myth. I think that that's the saying that he's running with right now. You feel me? He was on big bank, and I think that for the most part, all in all, you know, um, he's he's running with the the streets are a myth. Yeah. Like, that's like his slogan. Sure.
SPEAKER_04I mean, for me, like 6ix9ine, like, bro, I watched the entire interview with him and Big Bank. I actually gave you my time. And everything that you were saying, I realized throughout the interview. Like, at first, he's trying to prove his points. He's yelling, he's being shown his bravado, all these different things, which is cool. You know, you can be you, you know, that's how you want to act. But at the same time, what I realized is throughout watching him, he's trying to prove himself to the internet, to the world, like to people he don't even know, people he don't even see, the comments. This dude talked about the comments section of Instagram um while trying to defend his honor for two hours. He pulling up different clips and different this and this and that. And in the end, I did, I will say this 6-9 was definitely prepared. He was definitely ready for that moment. As always, and he definitely wanted to make an example out of Big Bank and use his light, use his platform and his shine and the influence that he has to kind of explain himself to really just the black community, right? Really just the culture, really just us. You feel me? And he was overprepared for that. It's been years that he's been really hasn't had a credible interview. You've been on with WAC, you've been on with these different people, but you ain't going with nobody that really is a representative of what we represent, right? And and and really be able to come, you know, plead your case. But as I watched it and I continue to to observe it, 6ix9ine is trying to prove himself to the internet, to the comment section. Well, this, that, and the third. And Big Bank asked one question. He said, Wait, so what is it you want out of all of this? Apology? Right. He said, Yeah, I want an apology. What nigga is about to sit here and apologize to you, bro? Apology for what though? Apology for the double standard, he feels. He feels like it's a double standard of how he's treated for telling and then how others is treated for cooperating with the police or doing doing things that goes against the code of the streets. 6ix9ine, you jumped off the porch when you was however old. You got into the rap, you got into the jumped off the porch. But I'm saying you jumped off the porch into a gang violence, into into a gang.
SPEAKER_03Jumped off the ledge.
SPEAKER_04Jumped off the ledge into a gang. Right. You decided that you was gonna rap and be a blood, whatever it is you was gonna be. And then when the heat came down and the pressure came on, you ran and told.
SPEAKER_03You folded.
SPEAKER_04And then you sat there and said it was disloyalty, is the reason why you did it. Disloyalty is in the streets every day, bro. This shit happens every day. Niggas' chicks get hit every day.
SPEAKER_03That's how you know that he wasn't.
SPEAKER_04So we sitting here, we sitting here saying we gave we sent dudes away for 40 and 20 and 11 years, and it was upwards or over 100 years combined. You sent these dudes away because they hit your chick. Right. They was being disloyal, they was taking money and all this. Man, come on, bro. So that's what I got out of that interview.
SPEAKER_03Bro, my thing with 6ix9ine is right, bro, regardless if your music was um popular. Okay. When in the beginning, right? It was. Nigga, we never liked you. You was never accepted. Ever. Bro, we never ever liked you, bro. Never. Right from the beginning. I didn't think he would be here that long. I'm gonna be real with you, bro. The niggas who you was running with, they never liked you. They saw a lick, bro. A lick. Because way before we knew anything about the term oil that was going on in your faction. Yeah, the nigga was hitting you, Shorty. Yes. Them niggas plotted to do what they did to you. That's right. They didn't respect you right from the beginning, bro. From the rip. Nigga, you need to go apologize to yourself. You fell for the bait, bro. You took the bait, bro. Them niggas was using you, bro. That's the only thing that you could say at this point, bro, that could kind of be like, uh, you feel me? Like, I could agree with you on, bro, is that them niggas was doing you dirty. And it's the truth. Yeah. But bro, doesn't that show you something, bro? You never was who you say you was, bro. Like you never was who you was pretending to be, bro. And that's why now when you double down on it, bro, and when you be popping out and when you be acting like you this tough guy, and when you be doing all this, like, like after everything happened, you didn't get beat up at LA Fitness. Like, nigga, like you been a freaking nut, like from the beginning. Like, that's just what it is, bro. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04Yes, I agree, bro. And I just think you're a clown, bro.
SPEAKER_03Like, honestly, nigga, we never ever was believing the hype. We never ever like, bro. I can speak for niggas in New York, bro. When I say this, bro, like niggas was never ever rocking with 6ix9ine, bro. Yeah, like the music was cool, like you feel me, but you can't rap, nigga.
SPEAKER_04You're you're a clown. You you you're entertaining.
SPEAKER_03They treated you as such.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. In a lick, straight like that. Like, you get what I'm saying, bro? Because as he's yelling, even as he's yelling in an interview, uh, it was dudes sleeping on floors, and I put them in apartments. Yeah, that they they made you. It was a lick. They gave you a name, they gave you a little credibility, bro. And that went to your head. And then when things came down, they would okay, and one of the points he was making, he said, they was investigated, they was being investigated for uh five years before I got around them. But who put the nail in the coffin? It was you, dummy. So you a part of that, bro.
SPEAKER_03Mind you, the nigga never separated um um um um his like the persona from the reality. But even still to this day, nigga, like, bro, they gave you all the clout that you had. Yes, and that you think that you still have right now. I agree. But bro, the fact of the matter is, bro, you never separated it, bro. That's why when you was lit and before everything went down, nigga, you was trying to beef with every rapper. Yeah, you was out here, like, you feel me, talking crazy to niggas, as if you really this tough guy, as if you really like, bro, like come on, bro. Come on, bro. This is pure goofy behavior, bro. Exactly. My nigga, 6ix9ine. I would tell you this right now, bro. You can say a hundred percent of the right things every time. Everything that you say, bro, when you get on any platform, bro, can be true as as I'm sitting down in this chair right now on this podcast. As true as I'm sitting next to Corey right now, bro, that's how true everything that you can ever say can be, bro. We still don't give a fuck. Nigga, we don't like you, period. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, bro. Bro, like, like, bro, it does not matter. We don't like you. Glasses is off, but we it's just bro, we don't like you, bro. We never really liked you, bro. Like, like, that's just what it is, bro. Yes, like apologize for what, nigga?
SPEAKER_04Who's apologizing to you, 6ix9ine? And not for nothing. What grown man is about to say shoddy, the niggas that you got booked that right because that's the only niggas that technically what I can say the dudes that hit your chick, you feel me? Yeah, you talking to them, you talk about these rappers.
SPEAKER_03You was with you was the breadwinner, and your shorty was hitting the manager because she knew the woman closest to you, bro, the person closest to you. This is all fake. That's crazy, man. Like, what are we talking about? We're not talking about nothing, bro. How would this dude? I'm sorry, Big Bang. I know that. It was a business play.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Because I respect Bank.
SPEAKER_04You feel me? But he was a bit unprepared. I could tell he was caught off guard with that approach.
SPEAKER_03You gotta let 6ix9 just because 6'9, that's the type of, you feel me? I don't know. And and I didn't watch it in the in the interview.
SPEAKER_04He said, he said to him, he said, he said, is this Danny or is this 6ix9ine? He said, because I was watching you like before we turned the cameras on. He said, and you was like actually like chilling. He like it now. The cameras on and you yelling, you you you got a drink in your hand, you know what I'm saying? Like, so it was a lot more at 6ix9ine, like, let me be me. He like, I'm just trying to figure out. I mean, who are you?
SPEAKER_03Who who are you? Who am I talking to?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So the internet is saying big bank got cooked. I guess if you into them politics, if you into them comments and worry about Instagram. We talking about reality though. This, yeah, I mean y'all talking about clout. We're talking about reality.
SPEAKER_03It's impossible for 6ix9ine to cook anybody, bro. Because from the beginning, bro, when you came out, bro, you wasn't standing on nothing solid, bro. You feel me, bro? Like, you you you're not on solid ground, bro. You built your house on sand, bro. That's why it crumbled, and that's why it sunk. Good point. Because it wasn't on solid foundation, bro. Like you never was who you was pretending to be in the beginning, bro. That's why you're not accepted in this community, bro. We love Hispanics, bro.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03We love Hispanics. You do well in hip hop. Like, for sure. Black people love Hispanics, bro. Black people love everybody, bro. As long as you you look how we accepted Eminem. Yes. Look at Eminem. Nobody can't never from Eminem. But he ain't come out acting like he was from the hood. Nigga, he from Eight Mile. That's his hood, though. Yes. But he wasn't acting like he was from the hood in Detroit. He wasn't acting like he was white boy Rick. He was him. I agree. You get what I'm saying? And that's all that it is, bro. If you want an apology, bro, what you have to do, bro, is you have to first go back and find yourself first, bro. Understand who you truly are first, bro. You gotta do some soul searching for you, bro. Yeah. And then, bro, you have to come with respect to get respect, bro. Which is another thing that you've never ever given. Like, never, bro. Every time you're talking, bro, is this brash, loud, bravado, braggadocious, all this nonsense. And it's like, bro.
SPEAKER_04Nobody believes you.
SPEAKER_03You still on that? Nobody believes you, bro. Simple. After everything that happened, nigga, you still on that? Like he mad at somebody. Somebody did something to him. But why do you think we still look at you like a clown? Clown. Ay ay ay. Man, bro. That's all. I'm done with him. This shit is like internet street culture.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. It's it's the people is diffusing the two nowadays because the internet is so powerful, but a lot of people is trying to portray that street image through internet.
SPEAKER_03I'll say this.
SPEAKER_04Through the internet.
SPEAKER_03Internet street culture is as real as 6ix9ine is. There's no such thing as internet street culture because the streets is never ever supposed to be on the internet. If you really, really doing what you're supposed to be doing in the streets, bro, there's no way that that's supposed to be on the internet.
SPEAKER_04If you really really like rule number one in the playbook, don't get caught. In the playbook, that's rule number one.
SPEAKER_03Don't get caught.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_03If you doing what you're supposed to be doing outside, bro, there's no way, bro, that you could be on the internet recording. And that's another thing that's wrong with the game, because forget 6ix9ine. Like, let's push them to the side, bro. Even these young men, bro, that's out here right now, bro, that's in the streets, bro. They doing it for clout.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03When back in our day, bro, there's no way you running to go tell on yourself after you just hit a lick.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_04I agree. Not doing that. Like, but telling right now on themselves is a part of the culture. Exactly. That's drill rap.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_04That's a whole lane of artists who is trolling one another and saying different things and dropping names and all these different things, not realizing that with them views, with them likes, with them comments, with all that love or whatever little distribution money you're making, it's going to bring a lot of police. It's going to bring a lot of heat. It's going to bring a lot of investigating. And a lot of y'all gonna go to jail or end up, you know, in a situation. That's just what it is. That's it, bro.
SPEAKER_03Yep. The quicker you learn, bro, that if you really, really about the streets, bro, you're not about the internet, bro, the more successful you would be. Now, disclaimer. We is not glorifying the streets, and we not telling you go jump in the streets, bro. Period. Like, that's not the way to go, bro. At this point, bro, we should all be able to figure out something a little better for ourselves. You feel me, bro? It's about time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I was about to say, we're all kicking on this. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's about time, bro. You feel me? It's about time, bro, to just be better. Like, we better than that, you feel me? As black men, as um black young women, you feel me? Get it how you live, bro. You feel me? I'm nobody to judge nobody. I'm nobody to tell nobody what to do and what not to do, bro. But we could do so much better, you feel me? And there's so much opportunities out here to get money, Corey. I agree. I agree. We've been there, you feel me? Yep. We've been there and done that, bro. Got to go and get it, figure it out. It's better. It's better. There's better opportunities, but like internet and street culture should have never ever been intertwined. Yeah, they don't mix. They should have never even been in the same, you feel me? I agree. So internet street culture is 6ix9ine. I'll leave you with that.
SPEAKER_04There you go.
SPEAKER_03If you want to be like 6ix9ine, then be internet street. Street internet, culture internet street. Street culture internet.
SPEAKER_04In the entertainment industry, uh in the entertainment industry at that.
SPEAKER_03Go be 6ix9ine if you want to. But if you don't, if you in the streets, bro, you shouldn't be on the internet, bro. Doing street things is what I'm saying. If you on the internet, you shouldn't be on there acting like you're street. What niggas be on the internet, bro, arguing, going back and forth with niggas court. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'll shoot you and I'll do this and I'll do that. On the camera. On the internet, bro.
SPEAKER_04I mean, like, clout is a powerful drug, bro. Go to jail, just just go to jail, bro. Yeah, because I'm not on that. No. If you wanna go to jail, just go to jail, bro. You feel me? My pop told me if somebody wants to do something, they ain't really gonna talk about it, bro. They just gonna be about it.
SPEAKER_03That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Speaking about going to jail, bro, Meek needs to be locked up. Meek get the yo, what why? All right, go ahead. Meek said that Dreams and Nightmares is the best hip hop song ever.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if it's the best, but it's one of the best. It's one of the best ones. I mean, you gotta think. It's played at, it's it's a celebratory song, first of all.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_04It's a feel-good song.
SPEAKER_03That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04It's one that can get you amped up. You could play it before a game. Hold up. You could play it before a uh a ceremony. You could play it before a graduation, you could play it before any, you can play it at prom. You could play it anywhere, and and that's gonna turn the that's gonna turn you up. It's it's going to the beat, meek lyrics, you know, it's the energy, the track is one of a kind, bro. It is one of a kind. It's one of a kind, bro. The beat changing in the middle of it and all that, that's that like it's legendary. It's a legendary song. It's a legendary song. Is it the best hip-hop song ever? No. Probably not. Or at least we got it's something that we can compare it to.
SPEAKER_03Meek. You remember last show we told you, bro, you'd be doing a little too much. Internet, Meek. Meek, come on, big dog. And this is the thing, bro. With the direction that we be going, you would think that we don't rock with Meek, bro. Yeah. So we just told him that he needs-he might be a therapist.
SPEAKER_04Everybody who cover Meek in the city can be labeled that way. Cause he's our representation, Meek. You are you represent us. You feel? We're gonna be a little critical when you out there with Vans with no socks. He noticed the Vans with no socks, the low-cut vans and the jean shorts, the jork. I wear low-cut vans with no socks, though, bro. But it was just the picture. It was the way your ankles was set up. Meek. Damn, the ankles was get they was given broken backwards. They look back, but anyway, yeah. So he is our representation, bro. So sometimes we a little hard. The shoes look like they was on two lefts. He had two lefts in his feet. Me crazy, man. Just think it through, bro. Damn. This joint was crazy. Yeah, the kissy face, think it through, gang. Please. Yeah, bro. But to post that joint is like, bro, that was crazy work. But I do think Dreams and Nightmares is one of the best rap intros around.
SPEAKER_03I mean Was it the best rap intro? Meek said it's the best rap song. It's the greatest hip-hop song.
SPEAKER_04There's a lot of great hip-hop songs, bro. I can't give you that, big dog. A lot of great hip-hop songs. I can't give you that, big dog. The intro on the black album.
SPEAKER_03Because when you say the greatest, right, Corey? Yeah. And I want to ask you this question. When you say the greatest, just overall, right? Yeah. What number do you have to fall in? You can't be top 20 and you one of the greatest. To say you the greatest, bro, you gotta be top five. For me. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? What top five rappers? Just period. If you're gonna say something is the greatest, sure. It gotta be either one through five. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04You you we would we would have to really think about that. And then you would have to categorize it. Are we categorizing as intros to an album? Are we categorizing as just the best hip-hop song? So many hip-hop songs is out, bro. It's like almost. I'm going with what he said. Yeah. He did say the best. I thought he said one of, but if he said the best, he's tripping.
SPEAKER_03He said because it's a lot of the tweet was the greatest. I think so. And I think that he was being a little facetious, you feel me? A little baggadocious, obviously. You feel me? But just for the sake of argument.
SPEAKER_04I mean, he was reflecting on the impact that he feels from it.
SPEAKER_03And when he could perform. Meek get a lot of love when he performed that song in all over the world. Yes. No, that song goes crazy.
SPEAKER_04It was the soundtrack to the Eagles, the Eagles playoff run. And I mean, like I said, like Meek did his thing on that record.
SPEAKER_03And the thing about that record, it blew up later. He performed that song at Kevin's Heart Roast.
SPEAKER_04I seen that. I seen that.
SPEAKER_03No, it's a great song, bro. And it does everything that you're saying that it does, Corey. But one thing that we have to remember, bro, is that we live in Philly. That's right. So what it means to us, it don't mean to everybody else. Regardless, Meek has a plethora of fans all over the world. And yes, when you at his concert, you feel me? But to say that it's one of the greatest songs ever, and I'm trying to put this in the context for you, right? When we, let's say, for example, we was talking about the greatest sneaker ever or the greatest basketball player ever, right? Yes. When you say Michael Jordan, that's stamped. That's true. When niggas um debate um LeBron and Jordan, or niggas might even fuck around and put Kobe in there, it's stamped.
SPEAKER_05Sure.
SPEAKER_03Because for a lot of people, those three people are in the top five. So it makes sense when you have that debate. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, I get that. When niggas talk about the greatest sneaker of all time, and I'll just throw something out, and people say Air Forces. You can't deny that because so many people feel the same way.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You get what I'm saying, bro? So that's why I say if you're gonna say that something is the greatest, it at least has to be in the top five.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Then you have to come up with your top five hip-hop records. You have to do that. So next episode, y'all, we got y'all. Because that's a good topic. You get what I'm saying? Great topic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So now, if if if dreams and nightmares was to fall in that one to five ratio, then I'm be like, okay, Meek, now we're having a conversation. For sure.
SPEAKER_04For sure. But again, I do think he just speaking from a personal point, like you said, he could be a little bit facetious. But I do just think that he's a rapper. He's looking at it like I got booked six times this month, and they wanted me to perform that song. You know what I mean? He's looking at it like, damn, this is what this drawing is bringing in still to this day.
SPEAKER_03And that's from his first album. You know when he tweeted that tweet, bro? After the Kevin Hart Netflix was out. And that's the song that he feeling that love, yeah. You get what I'm saying? For sure. He like, yo, like I'm at a roast on Netflix.
SPEAKER_02On Netflix.
SPEAKER_03In front of the who's who's. And Kevin Hart, which is arguably the most popular comedian of right now. For sure. This is the song that he wanted me to perform. Hold on, wait a minute. Y'all thought I was. This is a Philly. When I bought that SMR and y'all thought it was running. Yeah. I'll say this. It's definitely the greatest song of all time. Hip hop. Philly. It's yeah, it's top. I'll say that. It's at the tippy top. I'll say that. It's at the top. I agree with that. I'll say that. For us, let's say Pennsylvania. Forget Philly. Pennsylvania. PA, our state? For sure, for sure. Say no more. I'll say that. I don't know if I'm ready to say that. You feel me? I can't say in the world. I don't even know if I'm ready to say that in America, though, you feel me? But for Philly, yeah, for sure. That's what's up. That draws crazy, bro. That draws crazy. Shout out to Meek, man. Speaking of the greatest songs, right? It's a lot of songs out right now. The market is flooded with songs, with a lot of artists, a lot of rappers. Yeah. And a lot of that is due to the new wave of streamers. Yeah. Hopping in that field. Right. And becoming rappers. You being a fellow artist, Corey. Right. When I listen to your music, there's a certain feeling, bro, a certain vibe. Um in my culture, we call it je ne sais quoi.
SPEAKER_04There you go.
SPEAKER_03There's something, bro. And a lot of the times, bro, you can't even pinpoint what it is. Yeah. But there's something, bro. It's a feeling, bro, that you get, bro. It can't be taught. Like it damn near can't even be understood. You don't know why you feel this way, bro. You get what I'm saying? Yes. I feel that, bro. When I'm like listening to a Koreak song, bro. Yeah, for sure. Certain.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, bro.
SPEAKER_03One of my songs, you feel me, of course. That I listen to, bro, I feel it when I'm writing. Yes. When these streamers are jumping into the rap game, bro, and they already have the popularity. They do. They already have the fan base. Yeah, they got the eyes. Yep. Do you feel like, bro, they're ruining the game a little bit? Do you feel like maybe at this point, you know, their fans are just easy to impress because they're already fans, and it's like, yeah, it's kind of like, you know, the talent doesn't really matter, or like, yeah, I feel like it's understandable.
SPEAKER_04I think with the streamers, like, I think streaming is just a day in a life, right? You know what I mean? You basically have a bunch of people watching you live your life, and essentially. And I think that a lot of their aspirations go further than what streaming is, right? Streaming, like I said, is just a day of the life. Once you accomplish them goals and get a certain amount of views and have a certain amount of uh influence, you then want to go into your other passions, things that you always wanted to be. Because you got the money to do it, you got the odds, like we said, and you got the you got the uh kind of the chem, the uh the the cookup to know like what ingredients to put in the pot.
SPEAKER_03Understand it.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? You understand the internet, you understand the algorithm, you understand all this stuff, you know what these kids want to hear. So I think a lot of them is like, man, I could go and rap and get the double and double the bag and still live out my dream. Because a lot of these dudes that's on camera and all this stuff, they even the content creators, podcasters, a lot of them is in music or one of the one that just started with music. Right. So I think the streamers are just taking advantage of that, but I do think it's oversaturating the game. You know what I'm saying? I watch the Rolling Loud performances. I've I haven't been to Rolling Loud uh in person, but I watch them on YouTube. Like I love following the festival and watching the YouTube performances. And these streamers is up there, they let me down, bro. They up there yelling and screaming, these young artists, they not showing no type of no type of star quality, no type of stage presence, no type of, no type of understanding of the moment. Right. And it's just letting me down in that sense to let me looking at that generation, how unserious they they are about the approach to this. You on a rolling loud stage. This is supposed to be like, this is supposed to be your your everything. And we getting really nothing from it. So I don't like what they how they treating the game as much as I care about it and as as much as the uh community means to me. It's just sad to see how they treating the opportunities. You know what I mean? You on the main stage rolling loud and you up there drunk or you up there too too high, or you not doing your thing. You're not you're not giving the people what they what they they're what they paid to see. You know what I mean? So I don't really respect it, like honestly. And I think they oversaturating the game a bit.
SPEAKER_03I definitely, definitely, definitely feel like the game is very, very oversaturated right now, bro. I feel like it's taking eyes away from real talent, to be honest with you. But at the same time, bro, I feel like it's because of the viewers, bro, and the listeners are accepting this, bro. The majority of the world, bro, they accept this.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_03And they okay with it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, our generation is successful. Our generation is moving on, and I think the younger generation and how they do things is what we're gonna have to start adjusting to. Right. Because they loving Plaque Boy Max's and Cosinett's and uh DDGs. This is this is the the these are the pioneers of their generation. It's understanding. So I mean, I'm I'm ex I'm open to um change. It's just in my opinion, I like to see a little bit more effort, bro.
SPEAKER_03You know, music isn't that good.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's just what it is, bro. The music, the music sounds quick. It sounds like you just whipped it up and put it out.
SPEAKER_03It's microwaveable.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03This is microwaveable, bro.
SPEAKER_04Y'all got that instant shit.
SPEAKER_03We we we we we we like the cookup more. That's the difference, bro. Have you ever noticed, bro, when you microwave something, Corey? You microwave food, right, bro? You ever realize how fast it gets cold? When you microwave something, bro, it has no longevity. The heat has no longevity, bro. When you warm something up on the stove, bro, it stays hot for a minute. That's right. Like it stays hot for a little while. All the way through. It goes from hot to warm, to cool to cold. When you microwave something, bro, it goes from hot to cold. And this is the music.
SPEAKER_04That's right.
SPEAKER_03This is why a lot of these artists cannot stand the test of time. And it's it's because of something that you said, bro. There's no effort being put into the music, bro. Like you just going in there and then you cooking up something for right now, bro. But there's no love, bro. Yes. There's no love with the music, you feel me? Which is why, bro, when's the last time we had a classic album out from one of these new artists? Right. We don't get classics no more, bro. Right. We don't get classic songs no more, bro. You get what I'm saying? Right. A lot of these artists, bro, that's came out in the past 10 years, bro, they song came and it went. And that's it. I agree. But we still could pop a biggie song in, and that drunk gonna hit the same as it did in '96. Timeless. We still could pop a Tupac album on. Like, you feel me? And that draw hit. Like when you hear that beat and then when you hear that flow, come on. And it's just like, first off, and you just like, yo, like that drawing. Chick Ukraine, West Side. You feel me? Like, but you know, bro, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, I don't know, bro. It's sad, bro. It's sad to me, bro, because I love the music so much. Sure. That's why it hurts me, bro. I feel like, you feel me? Sure. It does make me feel like I don't stand a chance sometimes. You know what I mean? I do it because I truly, truly love it, bro. And sometimes I just need that outlet, bro, to write. Like, you feel me? Like, I recently dropped like a little freestyle on Instagram, and I didn't even go record it. This is the reason why I just spit it the way I did, because I needed the outlet at that moment.
SPEAKER_04Like, you feel me, bro? Like something really big with therapy for you. Yeah, you had something to say, bro. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So many people reached out to me and they like, damn, bro, like Freddie, like, record that joint, bro. Why you ain't record that drunk, bro? Like, bro, that joint tough.
SPEAKER_04And it's just like it wasn't about that for you.
SPEAKER_03I can't lie. Yeah, bro. I don't be like, I'm not, I can't lie, bro. I'm not into it the same way, bro, because of what we're talking about, bro. Because it's just like, bro, it's just gonna be lost in the sauce, bro. I feel like nobody's not gonna appreciate it. You know what I mean, bro? I'm doing this for me, bro. And I know it may sound kind of selfish, bro. You feel me? But I got so many other things on my plate, bro. Right. Where I'm like, nah, bro, I gotta come in the studio today and I gotta link with my dog Corey, and we gotta, you feel me, put on for the show. And like that energy that I used to have for the music, bro. Now I have it for the podcast. Yes. Now I got it for my daughter. Yes. Now I got it for different outlets in my life, bro. You get what I'm saying? But it's just like, I don't know, bro. It like it does make me feel sad though, bro. You feel me? Because it feels like a part of my life, bro. That was so, so important to me at one point, bro. It's slowly fading away, bro. But you know, like, I I don't know what's the remedy for this, for this dilemma.
SPEAKER_04The remedy is just to trust that generation, bro. Just like we had to be trusted. You feel me? And I'm not saying that our generation is out or or or or or close to being out. But what I'm saying is we ushering in a new generation, right? And we want to open, you want, we want to embrace them, you know. So I think we just gotta trust that, bro. And I think they going, they gonna they're gonna pick it up. Somebody's gonna pick it up, and it's gonna get in the right hands, and we're gonna be good.
SPEAKER_03No, I can respect it, bro. I can respect it, bro. In all honesty, Corey, I can respect that, bro. What you just said, bro. But I can't trust these niggas. Ah, bro. These niggas, bro, they not it, bro. This music is not it, bro. I gotta be real with you, bro. Bro, please, bro. If we could make it some way, somehow, bro. And you know what it is, bro? We gotta bring real back, bro. Yeah, the real niggas gotta stand up, bro, and say, yo, bro, this is not it. This is garbage. Stop, bro. The ex the music execs, bro. Y'all gotta start looking for real talent again, bro. Being talented is still in, bro. Like, let's find real talent, bro. Let's find back artist development.
SPEAKER_04You feel me? Let's sign an artist and realize, oh, you got some raw talent. We gotta figure out how we can. Yes, market you. Exactly. Then just putting them in front of a camera or a microphone and being like, go.
SPEAKER_03Streamers are streamers, bro. Let's leave the artistry to the artist, bro. Please, bro. Because if that wasn't the case, then we wouldn't be able to get a groundbreaking artist like Chuck Styles on the if other shout Chuck Styles. If other fields was doing this, Corey. Yes. Excuse me. If other fields was doing this, bro, where would people like Chuck be? Who had to grind. Why is it only the music is doing this? That's right. That's right. They don't do that with art. They don't do that in the automotive industry, bro.
SPEAKER_04It's a treacherous game, bro.
SPEAKER_03You don't go get your car fixed, Corey, and it's a streamer fixing your like why why do they you feel me, bro?
SPEAKER_04I got you, bro. Yeah. I think that, I think that that's like I said, that generation, um, they found a they found a loophole, a glitch in the system. Yeah. And they and they and they capitalizing on it. They're running down on that joint, bro. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
SPEAKER_03Speaking of someone who found a glitch in the system.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_03Cheyenne Bryant. Dr.
SPEAKER_04Cheyenne Bryant. Who? That's Shreddy. She got a degree from Argosy University, which closed.
SPEAKER_03I see, DC.
SPEAKER_04Argosy. It closed. The young lady or the young woman said that um she called the school, spoke with the financial aid. They they said that they sent the records, her transcript records, uh of her doctorate to to uh a third party. Called the third party. Third party said, We only hold records for two years. She said then they offered her a refund of her money, her tuition payments. They offered her a full refund for not having the documents, but they would delete all of the credits that she had prior, you know, had obtained throughout her doctorate program.
SPEAKER_03Dr. Cheyenne Bryant.
SPEAKER_04Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER_03First of all, ma'am, I'm sorry. Madam Cheyenne Bryant. It is if the school is closed, who did you call?
SPEAKER_04She called the financial aid. For what?
SPEAKER_03For who?
SPEAKER_04Her transcript.
SPEAKER_03But back to the question. If the school is closed, how do they still have a financial aid department that's answering your phone calls?
SPEAKER_04Well, they had a third party. I guess that was the financially, uh I don't know. But I'm gonna tell you this two things. First thing, cut the cap. Cut the cap, Cheyenne. Cut the cap. All due respect, Miss Bryant. Cut the cap. You, ma'am, we there's people out here who went to college for this very program that you you you saying that you went to college for. How could you do this to us? You got the dissertation, all these different things. You won't even post you and your mother at the damn at the with with your bouquet of flowers after you graduate. And you had the nerve to say you serve God. We all serve a God. Now I think that's noble, sweetheart. But you but you did in the land of in the law of the land of the internet. Because that's how you made your money, that's how you got your fame, that's how you got your start. So now you don't want to over whoop, you don't want to over-explain now, right? Show us a picture of you at that graduation. Come on, man. Drop that dissertation or drop that damn degree. Ma'am, I can call Temple right now. I went there five years, six years, whatever it is ago. I can call them right now and then get any of any of my documents that I paid for. Come on. A degree, everybody out there, you pay for it. You don't want to. This is yours. It's a never-ending receipt. You got a receipt, your name, your social security, your social security number, all these different things. Don't tell us you can't obtain your documents, man. Just say you're a life coach. Call it a.
SPEAKER_03Where's the picture? Like, if you got a doctorate, bro, they give you the diploma, right? They give you the um, is that what it's called? The diploma? Yes. And then you also have a dissertation, which is give you the doctorate. Yeah. Give you the draw. Like, when you walk across the stage, they give you the fake one, but then they send it in the mail.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Where's the picture of it? Mine's is in my mom's house. I feel me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03My draw is right there, along with all my siblings. We all have it. Me and Corey just said the same thing. That's right. Corey graduated a year before me. Corey graduated in 2011. I graduated 20. Oh, I'm sorry, two years before me. Two years. Corey graduated 2011. I graduated in 2012. I just got my transcript last week. Yes. For my program that I'm in right now. Corey just got his transcripts. That's for high school. You mean to tell me you have to- Oh, that was for college. Oh, I'm sorry. You got your college degree. Yeah, I got my college degree. I got my high school transcripts, bro.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. It's ridiculous, bro. And you standing on these huge platforms, Miss Bryant. You the one who on the news. You the one who went to Joe Joe Button podcast. You the one who went to all these podcasts and showed the same story. Thought you told the same story. But now the internet, the internet investigators put it put it together and it's not making no sense.
SPEAKER_03I can understand that. Having doctor in front of your name is just more appealing. It's powerful. You feel me? But you gotta earn that. And you a very, very uh beautiful lady. Like, you feel me? So it made sense and you ran with it, but you're caught. You're caught. You caught and admit it. Stop. Yeah. Stop while you're behind.
SPEAKER_04Because we wanna forgive you. Like we want to support you. We love you. No problems, bro.
SPEAKER_03Everything that you be saying before. Love your grind, love your hustle. But miss. That's why I'm so hurt though, Corey. Because when she be speaking, bro, I resonate with the things that she's saying, bro. Very well spoken. You feel me? You be on point with what you be saying, but to find out that you've been lying about being a doctor, bro. My sister is a doctor. My my younger sisters want to be doctors. They're in school right now. My cousin is a doctor. Two of them. They PAs, bro. How can you disrespect all the people that have gone to school, bro? Work 10 years of school at minimum, bro, to be a doctor, bro.
SPEAKER_04Many of them still in debt, still paying student loans, all these different things. You went as far as to say that you was good. They offered you a refund. A re Miss, what university, what institution is refunding any of us? If that's the case, I need to make a fuck a couple call couple phone calls. Bro. What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_03They offered you a refund. What are we talking about? Because they they they because the third party that has your records. Doesn't have your records.
SPEAKER_04Don't got them. They deleted it. After two years. Ma'am. It's a document. It's not. What are we talking about? She must really do it. It ain't a Rico charge, man. Taking us with the rules that we are, bro. Exactly. For believing you in the first place. Right. But she got a book coming out. So if y'all want to go ahead out there and buy the book, um, I'm like I said, I resonate with her message. I think she's a dope woman, and I think that she be preaching good gospel.
SPEAKER_03Definitely.
SPEAKER_04But you lied. And you and you double down on a lie. She gotta stop.
SPEAKER_03You you you you you you snap, Shorty. Overwhooped. You snapped. Simple and plain. You feel me? Real quick, bro, before we get up out of here. Did you happen to um watch the Kevin Hart Roast? I watched the Kevin Hart Roast like uh yeah.
SPEAKER_04I watched like through through bits and pieces.
SPEAKER_03I didn't really like that drunk, bro. How'd you feel about it?
SPEAKER_04It was super racist, bro.
SPEAKER_03Super racist.
SPEAKER_04It was super racist. Um everybody was a bit uptight, in my opinion. Um, some of the people are roasters, they be doing it all the time. Right. Um, but you know, it was alright for me. It was alright for me. But Iceman drop. Oh Iceman Drop is frozen outside. Yo. He didn't he surprised us and dropped three projects. Bro, three projects. And I mean, today it dropped today, y'all. So we we can't give y'all a constructive uh criticism of it. But what I will say, the Iceman project, that project in general, I've listened to two times through since it dropped uh since this morning. It got some slaps on there for sure. For sure. The journal future, um, a night in uh Atlanta, um Burn uh Burn Bridges. Uh Drake seemed like he aiming at everybody. Everybody who he had beef with got addressed. Yep. You know what I'm saying? And he's very much preaching I'm a one-man army. Yeah. And I'm gonna stand on it, whatever it is. So I kind of respect that. Um, and the other two albums I haven't really got a chance to get to yet. But it's exciting to have this chemistry. You said you was watching the numbers, though. You said they was looking crazy, right?
SPEAKER_03Bro, this man, I'm looking at the numbers like this, was like three hours ago, bro. Right. Damn near every song on Iceman is at a million.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's gonna do something stupid this first week.
SPEAKER_03Like, this was crazy for sure. This was crazy, bro. And I was so shocked, bro, because I'm like, I mean, given what happened, I'm not shocked, but bro, he is coming for everybody, bro.
SPEAKER_04He's coming, he's coming at everybody. But the thing is, they said that like uh like I was reading some comments, people feel like he's too late. He a day late, dollar short. Yeah, it's over. He should have been, he should have been cooked up something quicker. Because like they feel like he responded to something that happened two years ago now. Facts, you know? But when what like but it's never a right time. When everybody turns on you, when is the right time to forgive them? Or when is the right time to get over it? You know what I mean? That's true. It's like, bro, like but is it another win for Kendrick in the sense of Drake is really reflecting on this album, and a lot of the songs he really reflecting. Right. It's like, damn, did this dude really force you into a corner to make you look in the mirror?
SPEAKER_03No, that's a fact. Because if that's the case, then he's still winning. But my thing is, and this is the only reason why I feel like you mean, like I feel away right now, bro, is because allegedly after combing through their streams and their platform with a fine-tooth comb, I'm hearing that Kendrick Lamar's streams for um um is two songs. Is what's the one song that he Not Like Us? Not Like Us, and another one of his songs, he lost over 500 million streams on Spotify. Okay, because they're saying there was a lot of bot activity.
SPEAKER_04Yes. The Fez did a sweep. The Fez did a sweep on the I mean, but you know, you see it bot bots are everywhere, bro. Bots are everywhere in the music, they also on social media. Like, I think Instagram just did a uh a bot inspection of people's followers. Right. You went and looked, and they might have had a million, then they down to 900,000. Like, no, it's a lot of little bots and different things that go into play with this internet thing. Um, and Drake did sue UMG, so I'm pretty sure he was he was having his lawyers and his people his vested, who you know, all his people. He applied that pressure, bro. And he applied that pressure. He wanted them numbers to the really reflect the truth. You get what I'm saying. I kind of, you know, it is what it is, but I don't think it's no harm, no foul to Kendrick, honestly. Like it is what it is. Kendrick's impact with that song, with the, like I said, with that album, GNX run, um, the Super Bowl, all that stuff. Right. What he did is solidify. It is.
SPEAKER_03If half of it was fake, that does say something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it says that it says that Drake was plotted on. That's what it says. Because we all know numbers come with Drake. Everybody always talking about his numbers.
SPEAKER_03You feel me?
SPEAKER_04So for Kendrick to try to do these astronomical numbers or have it and the label to have it look that way, I can see how Drake feels some tight.
SPEAKER_03Felt the way. And I can say this, and this is something that I realized and I noticed right around that time. I'm gonna be real with you, bro. I'm not even lying when I say this. When I was looking at both of their songs on YouTube, right? Something that I did notice is that let's say Drake dropped a song and Kendrick dropped a song, right? If Drake had a song and it had one million views, and Kendrick had a song and it had two million views, Drake had more comments on his song than Kendrick did.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Which is just off.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But the powers that be, the powers that be play a role and all of these artists come up and all of these artists steady in, you know, steady incline. Right. I feel like, I feel like Kendrick, once it was clear that Kendrick was taking the lead on that, the label probably did jump behind them. Why not? It only makes sense. You know, if it means come on now. It only makes sense. Just like the label jumped behind Drake a million times, I'm sure. Exactly. Come on now. Like they're supposed to. They gotta put it, and mind you, they signed to the same label. Umg. Umg. And Drake dropped three albums. Apparently, that means that he's off of his umg record. So umg contract. Well, no, is it isn't it, isn't it epic that they both signed to?
SPEAKER_03Was it epic? Drake is signing Universal Music Group. Oh, Universal, oh okay, I'm sorry, University. You feel me? Okay, yeah. So it's just like two of them, I think. You know, Kendrick was the horse that was in the lead at that moment because Drake is normally always the person that's in the lead. So when they hop behind you, bro, it makes sense. You feel me? Exactly. But if Kendrick is the one that's in the lead, it makes you feel away.
SPEAKER_04But bro, this is busy. If Drake dropped the bar saying he feel like Meek, he he kind of understands how Meek felt when the title wave, the title wave came, and Meek was just like canceled. And everything he does was the wrong thing. And it's like, you know, you do get to think like is this like a machine against me? Like, I'm confused. Right, bro. So kind of respect that, right?
SPEAKER_03Five stars. That's the greatest system we're gonna use, right? Okay. How many stars out of five are you giving Iceman?
SPEAKER_04Uh, right now, I'm gonna give Iceman like a seven out of out of five. I was gonna say seven out of ten. Um, so I guess like a three out of five. Three and a half, yeah. Okay. That's with the first listens. First listens. You know, obviously on Burn Bridges, where Drake is basically talking to ASAP, he's talking to ASAP Rocky, he's talking to Rihanna, he's talking to all his all his all his ops, everybody that he went through it with, everybody that mentioned his name. I thought that was really dope. And he dropped a video with it. So I'm I'm I'm liking that. I'm liking where I'm at. I'm hearing songs, uh, the join with him in future. Uh, I guess run Atlanta. Crazy. He sent me in he sent me in Pluto back by popular demand. I'm like, okay. So you mean yeah, they went through what they went through, but at the end of the day, for them to figure it out, because them two make classics together. Future and Drake, like they make classics. But yeah, I give it a three out of five right now. But come back to me next episode and we'll see.
SPEAKER_03I think I would have to give it a four right now. Okay. I'm rocking with a lot of the songs. I ain't gonna lie. I'm rocking with a lot of songs.
SPEAKER_04It does sound like I just didn't get a full listen of the other albums yet. I gotta get into them. I'm grading it all as one. You dropped three projects. That means you want me to listen to them.
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right, right, right, right. And that's the thing. That's why I feel like I wouldn't even be fair for me to really grade it. You feel me? Because I gotta give, um, I gotta listen to it. I gotta listen to it, and I gotta really, really sit with it.
SPEAKER_04Sit with it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I feel like that's the only thing that's fair. Like, bro, like I have to because you know, this is just that that's the way that I consume music. That's right. Especially nigga gonna drop three albums, like, bro, you wildin', bro. Like, let me take a couple cars. Like, damn, nigga, like, you feel me? But there is one song that's really, really resonating with me right now. Um, that's too hot for radio. I rock with that drawing. That draw's a banger. He did rap to a West Coast beat, and I do really, really feel that drawing. You feel me? Yeah. So, Drake, right now, I'm gonna give you a four out of five. It's subject to change, bro, because I do gotta sit with it a little longer. You feel me? And um, yeah, like I ain't even try to play myself and listen to all three of the albums. I ain't do it either. That's just ice man. I ain't do it either. It's too much music to consume. That's just ice, man, just for now. You know what I mean? But look, man. Great show, bro. He on the run. I'll say that much. But definitely, man. Um, you already know what it is, man. You feel me? That's right. Uh, another, another day, another dollar. That's right. We here once again for the cameras. That's right. We threw it on for y'all tonight. You feel me? Formal Fridays. Formal Fridays. Yeah. It's not the it's definitely not the last time you're gonna see us. That's right. You feel me? Had to just put it together in this way for you, man. But coming from us here at the Sixth Sense Podcast, we appreciate y'all. We love y'all.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Please make sure. Oh, you got, I got it. Okay, we're gonna make sure we like, comment, subscribe, and share the platform. Jump in the comment section with us on Instagram. We can't wait to interact with y'all. We love interacting with y'all, and we're gonna keep this thing rolling. That's a fact, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm Freddie Hoy Blanks. I'm Corey. And this is the Six Podcast. Peace, love, chicken grease.
SPEAKER_01Great show. Six, Freddy. Freddy. Six, Freddy. Freddy, six, Freddy, Freddy, baby.
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