Skincredible Humans: Behind the Scenes with Anna and Olivia

In this special behind-the-scenes episode of the Skincredible Podcast, Dr. Lisa Swanson welcomes her two medical assistants, Olivia and Anna, for a candid conversation about life in pediatric dermatology. They share how they found their way into dermatology, what they love most about working with children and families, and the rewarding experience of watching young patients gain confidence as their skin conditions improve.

The team discusses common misconceptions about pediatric skin conditions, including eczema, molluscum, warts, and birthmarks, while offering reassurance and practical insights for parents navigating these challenges. They also reflect on the emotional side of caring for children, the importance of building trust with families, and the unique joys (and occasional challenges) of pediatric dermatology.

To wrap up the episode, Olivia and Anna put their knowledge of Dr. Swanson to the test in a fun game of “How Well Do You Know Dr. Swanson?”, featuring questions about Bluey, coffee orders, favorite animals, reality TV, and more. Filled with laughter, heartfelt stories, and plenty of pediatric dermatology wisdom, this episode offers listeners a fun and personal look at the team behind the clinic.

Keywords

Dermatology, Medical Assistant, Skin, Patients, Patient Care, Pediatric, Medical Care, Medical Team, Dermatology Practice, Warts, Bluey, Dr. Pimple Popper, Dr. Sandra Lee, Cystic Acne, Medical Care, Healthcare, Healthcare Careers

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Chapters

00:00 Intro & Welcome: Olivia & Anna

01:55 How Olivia & Anna Ended Up In Dermatology

02:56 A Message to Olivia From Dr. Pimple Popper

05:30 Dr. Swanson’s Trivia Tradition During Talks

07:30 Female Dermatologists & Eldest Daughters

08:50 Favorite Parts of Pediatric Dermatology

12:25 The Team You Work With Matters

14:30 Helping Kids Feel Comfortable in Clinic

16:00 Buzzy Between the Brain and the Pain

17:00 We Believe in Bees, But They Do Sting

19:30 Least Favorite Parts of Pediatric Dermatology

25:00 Differences Make Us Special

27:20 If You Could Tell Parents ONE Thing

34:00 How Well Do You Know Dr. Swanson

35:28 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Bluey Character

36:25 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Starbucks Drink

37:40 Dr. Swanson’s Current OTC Favorite Ingredient 

38:45 Dr. Swanson’s Dog’s Names

39:15 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Wart Treatment

40:35 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Ocean Animal

41:55 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Land Animal

43:04: Dr. Swanson’s Daily Lunch

43:44 Dr. Swanson’s Boy Biopsy Requirement

45:00 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Reality TV Show

47:30 Dr. Swanson’s Frustration Indicator

49:10 Dr. Swanson’s Favorite Bluey Episode

51:00 Appreciation and Goodbye

The information shared on this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for personalized medical advice. Always consult your  physician regarding your health.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Welcome to Skin Credible, where we tell you what you should know about your skin and how to glow. Because your skin's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Hello, everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of the Skin Credible Podcast. That's right. You guys are getting a behind-the-scenes look at the magic that is Pediatric Dermatology Clinic. Because you guys are getting to meet my two wonderful medical assistants, Olivia and Anna. Hello. Hello. Welcome to the pod, you guys. Thanks for having us. Glad to be here. And for you listeners out there, you've all actually heard Anna Hutu already because she is the singer of our theme song. Yes, I am. Yes. And she worked very hard on that and we love it. We were very excited. I had some notes for you while we were going through the process. I think I said, like, I want more upbeat Taylor Swift, not like sad Taylor Swift. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:10

And I offered both.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Yes. She delivered. We had choices. I want the audience to know if you're watching on camera, you get to see that I'm wearing bluey earrings today in honor of this special occasion. Yes. And if you're listening, you're missing out. Pretty much. Right? Because I can't wear earrings like this to work because the kids will grab them and I will lose an earlobe. Well, I thought it would be fun to bring you guys in and talk to you guys about the experience of working in dermatology and what your favorite things are and what your not so favorite things are, and what messages you might have for folks out there with kids who are dealing with skin problems. So to start off, how did each of you end up in Derm? Like, did you was it just by accident? Did you want to work in Derm?

SPEAKER_05 2:00

Wanna go first?

SPEAKER_06 2:01

Sure, I'll go first. I have always been fascinated with Derm. If you know me, you know I love Dr. Pimple Popper. Yes. Because her videos make my mouth water. And everyone thinks it's super weird, but she said it was a compliment. So I'm gonna go with that.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Yes, now this is true. And actually, listeners can reference. We had don't we still have footage of this? Yeah. So Olivia sent me on a mission to AAD, American Academy of Dermatology annual meeting. I was doing a talk with Sandra Lee, Dr. Sandra Lee, the pimple popper. And Olivia said, please tell her that watching the show makes my mouth water. So I did. And she was like, That's weird, but I would like to reward Olivia for her fanmanship and record a beautiful video for Olivia. Yeah. Yes. She did. And that was really, and Anna, we can we can like bookmark that. Yeah. However, it works on the internet.

SPEAKER_08 2:55

Hey Livia, guess what? I'm with your boss. Your boss here. And she's so sweet. She's a sweetheart. She's she she sent a message to me from you. I'm so honored to watch the show. It makes your mouth water. And that is a compliment. And yes, that is indeed a compliment. But I wish you were here. I'm gonna give you a hug. I'm gonna give your boss a hug to send to you right now. Thank you for being an amazing fan.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

That's right. Didn't your husband say you can't be in a bad mood today because that just happened?

SPEAKER_06 3:26

It was moving day, and I was super stressed. And he goes, You have no excuse to be grumpy now. And I'm like, Oh, I don't. I don't at all. This is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

And Anna Hutu, how did you end up in dermatology?

SPEAKER_05 3:39

Kind of accidentally, kind of intentionally. I had worked in rheumatology for a couple years and I wanted something different. And someone had mentioned Ada West dermatology, and I was like, you know what? I'll go check it out. I also have been on this journey of learning more about my own skin. I dealt with cystic acne till I was like in my mid-20s. And so I was like, how cool would it be to start a new specialty and then like learn more about my skin and like educate others too with that knowledge? And I ended up falling in love with it the moment I started working here. So definitely hope to be around for a while.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Yeah. And Anahuti, you and I met before we worked together. But I yeah. I didn't know that. And actually, I didn't remember it until you mentioned it. Yes. You were still working at the rheumatology office and I did a dinner talk to the rheumatology practice about a medicine that's approved for psoriatic arthritis and psoriasis. And was it during that talk that you were like, ooh, yeah, Pete's derm, dermatology?

SPEAKER_05 4:42

Well, I had not really thought about being in PEDS until that day where I was like, oh, I didn't even realize that was a Pete's derm was a thing. Yeah. And then I was like, look at this cute little doctor that came into town straight to Boise, talking about her dogs and fun facts about the state. And I live in the state and I didn't even know those facts. So I was like, this could be fun. Only to find out they're like, hey, after you're done with training, you're working with Swanson. I'm like, the Elizabeth Swanson?

SPEAKER_04 5:08

Local celebrity.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

I know, local celebrity, exactly. Well, sometimes also there's confusion because my full name is Elizabeth, but I go by Lisa. And so sometimes people will even call in and be like, who should I see? Should I see Elizabeth Swanson or Lisa Swanson? It's like they're the same person. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and at those dinner programs, I like to do trivia. Yeah. Sometimes I do trivia on the place that I'm visiting, but sometimes if it's like a talk that I've done before in a city I've been to before, then I'll get more creative with my trivia.

SPEAKER_05 5:40

Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

And do like Mother's Day trivia or like election day trivia or tax day trivia, which is actually surprisingly interesting. Yeah. I was giving a talk around April 15th, and I was like, what am I gonna talk about? And so I did, I looked up Tax Day Trivia. There's some very interesting, we could have an episode about that. We could. Yeah. Yeah. Taxes on your skin. Taxes on your skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think I did Boise Trivia when you were there that day. And once you mentioned it, I was like, oh yeah, I think I remember seeing your smiley face in the audience. Yeah. Little desire to forget. Were you guys excited that you were going to get to work with kids? Were you scared that you were going to get to work with kids?

SPEAKER_06 6:24

I well, to start because I was working in General Derm. And I was working with Dr. Burr when I first started at Ada West. Now, mind you, I was three months postpartum and I was like, I I can't take care of kids when I'm already taking care of a newborn. Oh my goodness. And so when they were like, You're gonna work in Pete's, I was like, oh no, I'm scared. But then my husband's like, You're gonna be just fine. It's gonna be great. And it has been the best. It's so much fun. I love it. Yeah, I never want to go back to regular kids. General germ. Yeah. I mean, it's it's fine on days that we don't work, but I definitely miss the kids when we're when we're not working. Yeah, yeah. They're fun.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

And Anna Hutu, you brought you coming from room, you only saw adults.

SPEAKER_05 7:12

We saw some 18-year-olds, but yes, the rest of them were adults. But I'm one out of 11 kids. So I love kids. Yeah. And I grew up babysitting everyone in the neighborhood. So working with the kids, I'm like, ooh, this will be so much fun from the older population to the babies and the kids. And it's been a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Because you're the second oldest of 11. I am. And you are the eldest daughter. Second eldest daughter. Oh, your your older sibling is a girl too? Yes. Oh, I thought it was a boy. Yeah. Okay, okay. Because I have I've been doing some research into eldest daughter syndrome. Olivia, are you eldest or are you your sister eldest? The eldest daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was inspired by Taylor Swift's song. Yeah. Eldest daughter. Eldest daughter, yeah. But there's interesting research. And I have a theory that most female dermatologists are eldest daughters.

SPEAKER_04 8:04

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Yeah. I have a theory. In fact, I mentioned it on Dr. Sherriari's podcast, The Medical Sisterhood. And she and I want to do a study. Yeah. Where we send out a survey. I mean, it'd be easy to do. Yeah. But I would be willing to bet that like 90% of female dermatologists are eldest daughters.

SPEAKER_04 8:21

Is it the like overachieving?

SPEAKER_05 8:23

Yeah, self-driven. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Hard to get into program. Like just trying to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, because there's so many steps, and so you have to, you know, like you have to get into medical school and then you have to get a derm residency, and then you have to pass the boards, and then you, you know. Um, and so you have to feel somewhat, you know, motivated and driven to to do all that. And so I I have that theory. Yeah. So what has been your favorite thing about working in pediatric dermatology?

SPEAKER_05 8:50

There's a lot of favorites. Watching kids come in with a certain condition and then watching their progress over time and like their face changes, their presence changes, and you see like this super smiley kid that's like actually excited to be at the doctor's office and not terrified. And I think that makes me happy, watching them be happy and just knowing we did something good.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah. No, I'm my eyes are filling with tears as you say that, because that's like one of my favorite parts of the job. For a lot of conditions, we take pictures, like especially alpiciariata and sometimes eczema, and you see in their eyes, you see like this like light come back on in them. And it's so special. And I think also all the toys in our office helps. That too. Yeah. The bluey stickers, the bluey stickers, all the little uh the slugs, the puppets, the coloring supplies.

SPEAKER_04 9:46

Yeah, like like not even the dentist was as a pretty good one.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I take great pride in in picking out those prizes and picking out the things for the kids to play with, and they have to be easy to clean. Yes. That's important. Very important in Pete because everything goes in their mouth.

SPEAKER_06 10:05

Especially the babies. Yes. Straight to the mouth. And you the parents, when they see the toys, and they're like, oh no, I'm like, it's all right. We have deep cleaned these, they're okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

We can quickly take a wipe to all of them, and yes, and everything is fine. I heard a speaker recently talk about a medicine being good for a clinician quality of life. And I hadn't like thought of it specifically in those terms before, but it does make you feel so much happier and more grateful to be in the field when you can impact a person's life so favorably, so impressively. And when you're treating kids, you're seeing that change not only in the kiddo, but in the parents. Yes. Yes. Which is cool. Olivia, what's your favorite thing?

SPEAKER_06 10:57

I it's hard because I I like a lot of it. But I think getting a relationship with these kiddos, yeah, seeing them grow up, you know, because like if they came in as a baby, you know, and then it's like over the first year of their life, say they came in with a homangioma and they're newborn, yeah, like I held you and now you're almost walking, you know? Yeah. So as a mom myself, I'm like, okay, yes, I see my kids grow up every day, but when you see these kids come in and you're like, oh my gosh, you're better, you know, and it's it's so cool. And then they they recognize you. One patient in particular I have in mind, seeing her get better and then walking down the hallway to where she could barely even walk. I know. To where she was coming in with these beautiful dresses.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

I know she was always so and running down the hallway.

SPEAKER_06 11:48

I'm like, You're better. I know it's really cool to see that.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Some of the funnest moments are when you go out to grab the patient from the waiting room. Yeah, and you remember the patient, and sometimes I'm like scared.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

I like open the door to our lobby, like, okay, am I gonna see a smile?

SPEAKER_01 12:07

And that first like glimpse of the patient, you can just tell. Even if the area of their skin ailment isn't exposed, you can tell in that moment if something is helping or not helping. Yeah. Yes, yes. And the team you work with really matters. And I feel so grateful that you guys are a part of the team because you're both so wonderful with the kids and you're both so wonderful with the parents. And that helps me be able to provide better care because I know you guys have my back, you guys know a lot because we've worked together for a long time. Makes everything run so much more smoothly. And I can ask you in a pinch to return a phone call. I trust you guys to be my voice, and that's that's a big deal. That's huge. Yeah.

unknown 12:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:58

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Um, and so I'm glad you guys like it as much as I do because it makes everything so much easier. Yeah, we're not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 13:05

Yeah, not for a while. No.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Well, I think Anahuti, you were surprised to be like kind of assigned Pede's derm. And yeah, and you have the experience of all your siblings and everything, but I think you were just like, I don't know. I don't know about Pete's derm. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm so glad that you have liked it as much as I do and as much as Olivia does. It was funny. I I do not, I feel like I'm not as much of my perky self today because I got stranded in Dallas last night um because of thunderstorms. And so uh I had to put on the blue earrings mostly to like pet myself up. But I was going through security in Dallas, and this gentleman had maybe a two-year-old with him, and he had like the stroller and everything, and he had like three backpacks and everything like that. And he's trying to get organized and he's trying to put everything on the conveyor belt, and he's struggling. And the uh woman behind him was like ready to go, and he's like, Well, you you like go on ahead of me because I have to figure some stuff out and everything. And and the woman said, Yeah, that looks hard. I've never had one of those before.

SPEAKER_04 14:15

Oh my like they're a towel or a shoe.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

I don't know. Like I think I laughed out loud. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

That's funny. The accessory.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Right, right. But you know, I do even remember feeling a a little bit that way when I started out in Pete's Durham because like I don't have kids of my own. And I was like, will I be able to talk to children? You know, like yeah, it is different, you know, and you want to be approachable and friendly and and not scary. And you also want to like, I I don't know, carry on a conversation, of course, age appropriate. Yes. And so when I first started, because like I don't have kids, my brother and my sister don't have kids. I've never been like an auntie or anything like that. So I'm like, will I be able to talk to the children?

SPEAKER_04 15:04

Look at you now.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

And look at me when you're a pro. I think I mean, well, in Anna Prieto, you witnessed the first few months of it because we worked together very early on in Denver.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

And I think I was a little bit tentative at first.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

I mean, if you were, we couldn't tell.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

You know, yeah, I think until I made it.

SPEAKER_04 15:22

I thought from the beginning, parents just liked you. And maybe it's like I do think the fact that you're not like tall and intimidating is helpful also. Yes. Um, but you were always so kind, like it was a no complaint.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Yeah, yeah. Well, and I never have worn a white coat and I never wear scrubs. Yeah, very relatable. You know, yeah. Well, and uh less scary, of course, you know. And I've always tried to have like fun things in the room for the kiddos to entertain them and make them feel comfortable and all that kind of stuff. Remember Buzzy? Oh, yes, I still have Buzzy. Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah. So for listeners, I rarely use it. Have you guys ever seen me use Buzzy? No, yeah. So for listeners, there's a thing called Buzzy, and it comes as either a ladybug, a bee, or just plain black, and it it vibrates, and you can even attach like an ice pack to it. Oh yeah. And you're supposed to place it on the skin between the brain and the pain. So if you're giving a shot like on the thigh, you put it on the upper thigh between the brain and the pain. And it can help with, I think, like more minor injections. You know, like early on, I used it a little bit for candida injections. The kids do so great with that now that I don't, I don't usually even bother. I even had some kids where it was like they didn't like it. You know, like the the vibration, they were like, oh. And I picked the ladybug one because who wants a bee?

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Who wants a black one?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

A race. Yeah, yeah. And like a bee, like I don't want to be anywhere near me. True, you know? Like, ask, ask Larry, my brain. I like freak out.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

Yeah. Kids hold ladybugs, they don't hold bees. No, correct. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

You don't like bees. I don't like bees. I mean, I realize they're important for the world. Yes. You know, like I'm pro-be. I want I want to make that very clear. I'm pro-bee, I'm pro-honey, but I don't want them on me or near me with the potential to sting me. Fair.

unknown 17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Yeah. Because I'm like, I'm not anaphylactic allergic, but if I do get stung, I swell up huge, huge. Who wants that? No, Bill. That sounds miserable. It hurts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, if you ask Larry, like if we're sitting outside on a patio and I like something flies by, I'm like, is it a flyer a bee? Is it a fly or a bee? Yeah. I like and Larry gets so embarrassed. Oh, that's so good. And sometimes if it is a bee, I like get up and walk away. Like, bye, Larry. Not gonna sting you if you don't do anything dead. And I was like, I disagree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:53

Somebody has told me that my whole life. If you don't bother it, it's not gonna bother you. And that's a lie.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

It is a lie.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

They will come to the sting you're a traumatic story in second grade. I was in the field playing at recess, and then I saw a bee come and land right on my nose and I close my eyes real tight and it stung me. I didn't even touch it. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Nurses' office for the rest of the day. Oh no. But the puffy nose. And we know how sensitive noses are. Yes. Oh my gosh, I bet that really hurt. Yeah. One and only. Now I run. Yes. Oh my gosh. So if a bee got loose in clinic, it'd be a disaster.

SPEAKER_04 18:30

All of you would be even running up the room. She's allergic. You're scared. She's scared. Yeah. No more clinic.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

That would be even worse than when it's too hot in clinic. Wouldn't it? Yeah. You guys know me and that and the heat. Yes. I don't like it. Nope. I don't want anything to do with it. Nope. It stresses me out. It makes me angry. Yes. I don't like to be hot. And so I am constantly asking for the AC to be turned down.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

The colder the better. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's like mild Antarctica in there, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

I've learned cold and layers at work. I bring a jacket to her house sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

My mom, my mom walks around my house in a down jacket.

SPEAKER_06 19:12

Oh my god. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Zipped up. Zipped up. I'm like, mom, you're being a little dramatic. It's not that cold. But she likes, yeah. She has her like in-house jacket at my house. Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I know. My mom's a trip. What there's so much fun in Pete's Dom. What is your least favorite part of working?

SPEAKER_06 19:31

You're gonna start with that one. I will start with this one. Where do I begin? No, kidding, kidding. Um I will definitely have to say the number one is the shots.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:40

Oh I know. Having to hold the kiddos down, but it's also good because you know you're helping. You know you're helping them. And then after, you know, like, say if it's for our hard dupixant shots.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:54

Eventually the kiddos like, okay, I know this is helping me, so let's just do it.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

But in the beginning, I hate holding them down. I know. Dupixen's the worst. Yeah. And I mean, it's a wonderful medicine. Love, love, love. Dupixen changed the world. But it's the toughest. It packs a punch. Yes. Yeah. And we warn the patients and the parents about that. But still. And and you know, I am able to be at peace with it because I know the good it does. And I just know we just have to power um the best way out is through, you know. And even some of the young kids, like we've had two, three four-year-old kids who can verbalize that they know they feel better. Yeah. That's really cool. That they hate, they they don't like getting the shot, but they know it helps them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:41

And these are young kids. Yeah. And then when when families come to see you because they're desperate for help, yeah, but then they don't take your help. Yeah, I want to scream. Yeah. Because I'm like, your baby, your child is suffering. And you know, okay, well, I know.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Help help me help you. And in those moments, you guys know I'm screaming on the inside. Oh yeah. But I am trying my hardest not to let that show on the outside. And and the way I see it is that it's there's a lot going on when you're a parent concerned for your child. Yes. I try to put myself in the same shoes because I know like if one of my doggies is sick and taking them in, and that like a lot of it is just like there's so much information being thrown at you. You could be even, you know, kind of sort of fight or flight about it because you're just you're you're filled with concern and worry for your child. Yeah. And so I can have empathy in those situations to just like need a moment to process and think I try my hardest to maintain my composure, uh kind of you know, plead my case in not a pushy way. Yeah. I'm not trying to sell, I'm not a salesman, I'm not trying to sell anything. But just like here's what I think is important, here's what I think will help, here's the the the positives that I think your child and your family could gain as a result of treating. And uh hoping that the experience is a good enough one that they come back and that we can keep uh carrying on the conversation and that eventually we get to a point they trust me enough to kind of like take that journey. Yeah, you know. I have hope that in the end it'll work out. Um, because we have seen that happen. You guys have witnessed that. We're like the first encounter, you're like, oh my gosh, like we feel so bad for this kiddo, but you know, the parents aren't quite ready to maybe take some of the treatment approaches that that we think would be best. And then you just keep up with it and you you can kind of see their decision making evolve over time and um and eventually, you know, a lot of times it turns around. Yeah. But it is it those are challenging situations. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:05

Please, no.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

I know so design, like, please just yeah, please just listen to me for for a month. Yeah. Just listen to me for a month. For one month. That's all.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Um Anna, how about you? What's your least?

SPEAKER_05 23:17

I think mine are very similar to that, but I think one that has popped out a little bit more are parents that come in with this idea that they want a certain approach, whether it's a more holistic functional medicine. And then I think sometimes I sit there with a bit of a how do I explain this? They're coming to Western medicine for functional medicine treatments. And I think sometimes when I see the parent trying to say, okay, but what what else can I do when you've listed, you know, the 10 options on your sheet. I've written them out. Well, they're they're on the sheet. I think sometimes that I sit there and I I can feel the frustration in the room, like, wait, I don't think we're all on the same page. Or moments where uh parents will almost put their insecurities on their kids when they're like, that mole has to go. Oh, that acne is really bad. That is so sad. That was one of those things. And then kids are kind of put in this predicament well, if my parent wants this, like I guess I have to. Um, especially when they're a little bit older, where they can sort of make a decision. Yeah, I think that's also some some tension in the room where the kid doesn't want to do it and we don't want to hold down this kid to have to do it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

I think that's hard. Those moments are really hard. And because it's like, you know, the parent is legally the decision maker. Yes. But a lot of these kids are old enough or mature enough that like you feel like they should have more of a say. And also I don't like it when a parent could make a child feel bad. Like I feel like the role of a parent is to lift your child up and emphasize the beauty and difference. And you know, we love you because you're unique and uh differences make us special. And so those moments are really challenging. Yeah, yeah. And I think in my younger years, I think if a parent came in with a child who had a, you know, a mole, for example, and they wanted it removed, I I think I just like did it. But then I would think about those kids growing up because when you remove a mole, of course there's a scar. And then sometimes the mole comes back and it looks funnier than it did to begin with. And then sometimes more procedures are needed because you know it looks it looks funny at that point in time. And so I found myself even having sleepless nights, like, gosh, I wish I hadn't removed that mole for that, you know, like even though it's what the parent wanted, like I wish I hadn't done that. But I think when you're early on, yeah, you it's harder to say no. Those those interactions are really difficult. But then you also meet some wonderful parents that like do all the all the beautiful things. You know, I I often will share the story of uh I had three hemangiomas on my face when I was a baby and and they never bothered me. Like, and one of them was like my whole nose. And and I I have zero negative memories associated with them. And I think if somebody asked me about them, I probably just said, Oh, you know, they're my hemangiomas. You know, like get over it, dude. Because my to my parents, they weren't a big deal. And so I didn't feel like they were a big deal. And my parents talked about them like, oh, they're just hemangiomas. So then that's how I talked about them. So sometimes I'll tell parents that story. You just kind of see them go, Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:47

That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah. And sometimes I'll even say the way your child grows up to feel about their birthmark is a hundred percent dependent on how you feel about their birthmark. And so if you're radiating positivity and and happy feelings, they're gonna feel that. If you're radiating the opposite, they're gonna feel that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Even if you don't say it, they can feel it. Kids feel a lot. Yeah, yeah. If you guys could tell parents out there one about one particular skin condition, what message would you want to get out there? Like, can I go first?

SPEAKER_06 27:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Molluscum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:23

Yeah, what would you build?

unknown 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:27

Everyone will eventually get it. Yeah. Yeah. Um we we we love molluscum. Yeah. Um it's it's funny because it's so different, you know, because I I've never seen it and I never even knew about it, right? Before Pied Sterm. Yeah. But now I'm like, not a day goes by, not a day goes by, but I don't see it. Um, parents are like, well, I've never heard of this before. But it's like today's kind of like chicken pox kind of thing, you know. Yeah, yeah. The body will do its job, take care of it. Yeah. We see it all the time, and it is a nuisance. I know it's a nuisance. The comments from other parents kind of make it worse than it is now.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Oh, I know. Yes. Like I commonly'll tell people, like, try to keep the areas covered, not because they need to be, but just to avoid unwanted negative attention, you know. And to speak to your point, Anna, about the people wanting like the natural holistic stuff. Molluscum is the exception because you guys have heard me tell people about like tea tree oil and like back when like Zymoderm and Molluscum Rx were around. Parents didn't want those things. They they want like the most aggressive, most, you know, catastrophic. Like they want the molluscum to die and they want them to suffer now.

SPEAKER_05 28:38

Now, like how can they be gone today? Yeah, yeah. That's funny. That's a good one. I think mine would be eczema. Not always related to allergy. Right. I think I've witnessed my own sister go through eczema, and a few people in my family were I think that was like a suspicion for a long time, like, oh, it's definitely something you're eating, restrict your diet. But working in Pete's derm, I'm like, wait, there's so much more behind rashes in general, but also eczema. So I think just telling parents, like, hey, it's not always a food allergy food allergy.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:11

There's always more to it.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Yeah. Yeah. For the listener, we've had several episodes about eczema, diving deep into this. And you know, eczema is now thought to be the cause of the food allergy because the food, uh, aeroslized food particles enter through the skin's broken barrier, trigger an abnormal immunologic response, which becomes allergy. And we know that avoidance of food is linked to increased risk of food allergy. And so we see a lot of babies that come in and mom's restricting her diet, they're restricting baby's diet. And we believe that that is counterproductive. It is increasing the chance of food allergy. Kids need their nutrition from a variety of sources, and it's so rarely the cause. And I do understand, I mean, and I think you guys have probably heard me say by numerous times a day, I wish it was a food.

SPEAKER_07 29:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

Like there's a big part of me that, like, imagine how much easier those visits would be if I could just be like, oh, all you gotta do is avoid soy. Yeah. And then you'll be fine. It'll be golden, you know? Like the K-pop demon hunters, it'll be golden. You know, I I understand that. And I think it, you know, if there was a simple fix, we I think we would we would tell people about that. Yes. Yes. Definitely. Yes. Agreed. And then what is a common misconception? Maybe this kind of say maybe the answer is the same, but a common misconception that you see parents coming in when they bring their kiddos in. Maybe it's the food allergy stuff.

SPEAKER_05 30:34

That one is definitely that's a pretty prominent one.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:36

I I would say food allergies.

SPEAKER_06 30:38

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 30:39

Or that warts in different areas around the body could indicate so I I think we had talked about this one time. Yeah. Genital warts. Yeah. Things like that. Yeah. And I think it's like reassuring parents, like, okay, hold on. Let's like get the whole history. Yeah. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Yeah. And that is an important topic. And we'll we'll have to devote a podcast episode to it because I, you know, I think it's very important. So some kids will get warts in the perianal area. And if those happen prior to the age of five, it's typically due to inuterro exposure. But what I tell moms is I'm going to tell you what this is, I'm going to tell you why it's not a big deal. Most adults have been exposed to HPV. Most of us mount an immune response, it goes away. And sometimes, if you happen to have HPV and you're pregnant, then sometimes the kiddos will get these little perianal warts. It's typically not a sign of abuse as long as it started before the age of five. And a lot of families get put through the ringer with like child protective services and things unnecessarily. And of course, we want to be out there identifying situations where there is danger happening in the child, and we're certainly not minimizing that. But we also don't want to put families through an unnecessary and traumatic workup for that. And so that that is an important thing. And then also when kids happen to get molluscum in the undy area, sometimes people will read online that molluscum is an STD.

SPEAKER_06 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

And that stems from the fact that when adults get molluscum, it tends to be in the undiarea and it can be transmitted via sexual activity because there's skin on skin contact. But I push back on like the STD connotation of molluscum. And molluscum is no more dangerous in the undiarea than anywhere else. Yeah. Yeah. It may be more annoying, but maybe more annoying. Or like I commonly tell parents, like, it's normal to get get kind of the weebie jeebies when it's there, or like if molluscum are on the face. I understand why that's more pressing, but it's no more dangerous or harmful, that sort of thing. Most of the time, there is no cause for alarm. Do you guys feel like you've had your own little mini pediatric derm fellowship working? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 33:02

My favorite is when uh med students come in. Yes. And they're like reading the schedule of the day. I'm like, yeah, that's probably Molluscum. Yeah. But they're like, what? And I'm like, you'll learn. You'll you'll see it for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

Yeah, you often can pick out based on like even a little snippet about the chief complaint that people are coming in.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

My favorite thing is before like we go grab a patient. Yeah. Um, we'll read the appointment note and be like, okay, well, I bet it's Meluscom or something like that. And then we'll instant message each other and she's like, Dr. Hutu in the house. Yeah. Whenever we get the diagnosis right.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Yeah. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Like I crush that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, I mean, that's the real fun of working in a working with one clinician for long enough and in one field for long enough that you just get such an innate feel for it all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Yeah. And you're a good teacher. So every time we have questions, like you help us walk through like this is what I'm thinking when I'm choosing this diagnosis or I'm evaluating this diagnosis. I'm like, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:10

That's helpful too. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

We've learned so much over the last couple of years. Yeah. Well, this has been so awesome. And what we're going to do next is something I'm really, really I'm excited, excited about.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

So I think this was something done on like, was it called the Newlywed game? That sounds like where like the host would ask, say the husband, a question about the wife. Like, what's your wife's favorite band or whatever? And then the husband would write it down on the whiteboard. And then they would turn it around and we would see how well the two knew each other.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

Or not well.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Or not well. Or not well. So I thought it'd be fun to play a game. How well do you know me, Musa Swanson? Let's do it. And so I created a list of 12 questions that Anna is gonna take us through. And then Anna will also be keeping score.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

I will.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Yeah, you will. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:05

Who's competitive?

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Olivia can if I want to be.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Okay. Okay, Anna.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

So everybody's ready. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Ready. Ready. Ready.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

If Dr. Swanson had to pick her favorite character on Bluey, who would it be? Okay, three, two, one. Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 35:30

It's a muffin.

SPEAKER_04 35:31

How do you not know it's a muffin? I gave you that one, Anna. I'm with you on this one, Anna.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

I love, I mean, I love all of them. All of them. But if I was like pressed, or somebody's like, your life depends on selecting your favorite.

SPEAKER_06 35:45

How did I not get that one? I don't know. I think I'm sleep deprived when I wrote the other answer.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Muffin just makes me giggle so much. She's so crazy. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Yes. But being, I mean, bingo is what I mean, they're all they're all so great. An episode with Muffin. I'm like, I'm in. I knew that. I knew that. Yeah. All right, Anna.

SPEAKER_04 36:06

Okay. Dr. Swanson goes to Starbucks every morning for the same thing. What does she get? You're so aggressive. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_05 36:15

Well, I know because she shares this with me every single day. I should know.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Annahu, if you get it wrong, you're like, I've been drinking. Three, two, one. That's good. Frap. Blender. Perfect. Share it with Anna. I didn't put no whip.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

So yes. So every morning I get a grande caramel frappuccino with oat milk and no whipped cream. And I put about two-thirds of it in a cup for Anna Hutu. And I have three sips, and then I put it in the freezer. Lunch I take it out, and then I have three sips to get through the afternoon. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 36:52

Yes. Yes. And the reason I drink hers is because so she doesn't have to throw the rest away.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Well, there was, yeah, there was one day where you were talking about your caffeine routine because you have a very particular caffeine is important to you. Yeah. Caffeine is a priority.

SPEAKER_04 37:04

More than three sips for sure.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

More than three sips for sure. And uh, and so I was like, you know, I'm throwing away this frappuccino.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

Like, if I would you want some of it if I put some in a cup and you were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:17

In those mornings where I'm like dragging butt and I'm like, you need the fraps.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Take it. You're half asleep right now. It's a delicious drink. It is, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

Lately, Dr. Sonson has been really into one particular ingredient and over-the-counter products. What is that ingredient? It's gonna be easy. I better get this. Ready, sick?

SPEAKER_01 37:39

Yes. No, Olivia's right. Yeah, yeah. Olivia's right. Yeah, yeah. Both both get a point. Nice. I just couldn't spell that. Yeah. I just love that.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

We're really close to each other.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Yeah. I love the Ocusoft spray. I now use hypochlorous acid hand sanny. Yeah. Love, love, love. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:57

It smells like a swimming pool. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

Really? I like it. It smells a little bit like a swimming pool. Sometimes, not all the time. I love that. But yeah, sometimes there's a little bit of a whiff of chlorine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:07

You may know Dr. Sanson has two doggies, as she likes to call them. Their names are Maggie and hold on. Hold on. Okay. You get five seconds. Muffin.

unknown 38:19

It's Muffin.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

It's Muffin.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

She's trying to sabotage that. I know I should have. Like, yeah. If if we got Maggie after I got into Bluey, I would have named her either Bingo or Muffin.

SPEAKER_04 38:33

She's a typical muffin. She's a muffin.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

She acts like muffin, but she kind of looks like bingo. She is coloring like bingo. And so, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

Okay, ready, set, go.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

Moseby. Maggie.

SPEAKER_05 38:45

Because Maggie's a new addition.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

I've heard so much about Maggie. I forget. Because Maggie's so crazy that I talk about her a lot. That's why that was that was purposeful that I did like Maggie and blank rather than Mosby and blank because I knew everyone knows about the easier answer. Yes, yes, yeah. Yeah, Mosby named after Ted Mosby on how I met your mother.

SPEAKER_05 39:06

Yes. I've heard you say that before. I'm gonna sleep at night and be like Mosby. Olivia just caught up with that one.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

Yeah, you are Ted. I'm gonna get your neck. Yeah. What is the best treatment for warts?

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Right as I go. Yay, wart peel. And we haven't talked about wart peel on the pod. Wart peel is amazing. It is a prescription topical medicine made by a pharmacy in Iowa called Nucara. And it doesn't hurt, and it works 98% of the time, and it works fast, typically three to four weeks. You've got your warts gone. And uh, what else is important about wort peel, ladies?

SPEAKER_05 39:42

Uh, doggies can't lick it.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Doggies can't lick it. Yes. So I always ask families, do you have any doggies at home? Because there's an ingredient in wort peel called 5FU that's toxic to doggies. And so I say, don't let your doggies lick the area that you're treating and store it in a place where they can't get to it. It's also important to get it from the Iowa pharmacy because other pharmacies will make they'll try to make a version of it. It's like a wort peel wannabe. It's it they don't they typically will cost half as much and work half as well.

SPEAKER_06 40:13

It is worth the $99.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Yes, yes. Costs $99. The pharmacy doesn't deal with insurance. Um the medicine gets mailed to your home. You do need a prescription for it. So you do need somebody to prescribe it for you, but it's amazing, amazing, amazing. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:29

All right. What is Dr. Swanson's favorite ocean animal? I just learned this one today. Ready, set, go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

I was like, we've heard about the 90 minutes. Yes. Talk.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

They sleep vertically in the water. It's so crazy. I love them. Yeah. I saw a 60 minutes episode about sperm whales and it changed my life. And they are such fascinating creatures. Big as a school bus. As big as a school bus. Crazy. And they dive down to like 10,000 feet underwater. It's really cool. And they're friendly. They're friendly and they communicate with each other by using a series of clicking noises. They have their own language. They have their own language and they sleep vertically oriented in pods, just like floating in the water. That's so weird. I know. And it looks creepy. It looks like alien invasion when you Google it. Like you Google sperm whale sleeping. It's like, whoa. Yeah. But I bet they think, look at those humans. They swap it around vertically all day.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

They're probably like, what are they thinking? They're doing it the opposite. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah.

unknown 41:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:38

What is Dr. Swanson's favorite land animal? This is a trick question. Dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_05 41:44

Favorite land animal?

SPEAKER_04 41:46

Land animal.

unknown 41:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Well.

SPEAKER_04 41:48

I'm just gonna go with this one.

SPEAKER_05 41:53

Can I have two answers? Ready to second? I put all dogs.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

So I mean, I think doggies count. I think because I do. That was my first guess, too. Yes. I do love tins. But you guys have heard about my experience going to the zoo in DC. I talk about that frequently because I pandas are amazing. Yes, they are. And specifically in a houtu, they're they're the giant pandas, not the red pandas.

SPEAKER_04 42:17

I think you got confused because we have the red pandas here at the zoo.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Boise zoo has red pandas, which are in the fox family. Whereas panda bears giant pandas are in the bear family.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

And they're tiny. I was very surprised when I saw them.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

They're like squirrels.

SPEAKER_04 42:31

Yeah, yeah. They're cute, but not as well.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

They have big fluffy tails, which is cute. Yeah. But they're not like panda bears.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

No, no, not at all.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Panda bears are so special.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

So do they both get a point? Do you want to give them the point? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

I do love doggies.

SPEAKER_04 42:46

Guys, we need a tiebreaker. I know. I thought with me not knowing who won, I would like to fall behind. She was trying to let you catch up. Um, what does Dr. Swanson eat for lunch every day? Wait a second.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

Umber sandwich. Three zip to correct.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

Yeah, peanut butter on a sandwich, then that's what I do every day. Because it's like just enough without being too much. I can keep my energy levels high. I don't feel like, you know, like bogged down. And um, and I love peanut butter.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

So it tastes good. I don't I don't know how you survive off that with all the patients you see.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

No, it's very filling. Yeah. Yeah. Peanut butter's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:36

What does Dr. Sanson recommend for any boy that has to have a biopsy in the office? Let's break that tie, guys. Snack. Mandatory snack policy.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

So boys, particularly teenage boys, have a tendency to pass out after biopsies. And it doesn't happen in the exam room, it happens as they leave. So it happens in the waiting room or the parking lot, and they just go down like a sack of potatoes. And sometimes when they go down, they like shake a little bit. So then like everybody in the waiting room freaks out like grab their tongue. Like, don't you know, like it's like mass hysteria. Um and uh and yeah, I think like the adrenaline is coursing through them to get them through the biopsy. And then they just like crash. Yeah. And so years ago, I instituted a mandatory snack policy for all boys having biopsies, and since then have not had a single boy pass out. No, it works, it works, it works, yeah, yeah. So we give them snacks and a juice box, and I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_06 44:40

We get a snack? I know excited.

SPEAKER_04 44:42

They're usually pleased, they're usually pleased, and I'm like, you have to finish this before you leave. This next one has two possible answers that will be accepted. Okay. What's Dr. Sanson's favorite reality TV show?

SPEAKER_05 44:52

I also don't know how to spell this. A little dyslexic today. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Everybody's sleep deprived or delayed from a flight.

SPEAKER_05 45:00

They're writing a lot. What are you writing? I have to.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

Well, I wrote down both just in case just in case. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Oh, okay. That's hopefully. Yeah, those are both acceptable.

SPEAKER_04 45:10

That says the golden bachelor.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Olivia gets extra credit for listing all of the members of the of the franchise. And then yeah, I've been I've been into The Bachelor for a long, long, long, long time. Long, long time. And I talk about it often when I'm giving talks. And I will frequently reference it. And I was giving a talk at the Society of Durham Nurse Practitioners Conference in Park City like three years ago. And I was on like my third bachelor reference.

SPEAKER_07 45:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

And a hand in the audience went up and I said, Yes. Do you have a question? And she said, actually, I won the first season of The Bachelor. Oh. And I was like, Amanda? Because I remember the first season of The Bachelor, because it was Alex, and it was down to Amanda and Trista. You chose Amanda and Trista became the first bachelorette. Oh my goodness. And so, yeah. So Amanda is a Durham nurse practitioner in Kansas City and she's lovely. Yes. That's amazing. She is lovely. She is actually in the picture. For those of you that have seen the Swannabe picture. Yeah. She's so cute. I've seen that. Yes, she's one of the Swannabes. Oh, that's great. And she's so wonderful. So I totally like fangirled over her and talked to her all about her experience and everything. And it was really, really great. That is really cool. And then more recently, I've gotten into Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. But the reason I got into it was because of The Bachelorette. Yes. Because Taylor Frankie Paul was going to be The Bachelorette. And so I was like, okay, I gotta learn about Taylor Frankie Paul. So it was my homework to watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And so I had to plow through that. And then now we might not even see Taylor Frankie Paul's season.

SPEAKER_04 46:54

I bet we will.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

I hope we will.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

I think that that must have happened. They must have increased their ratings. I mean, a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Oh, I mean, now if they show it, like it's gonna oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:04

Yeah, it'll shut down the internet-wise. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, so it was through Bachelor that I got into Secret Lives.

SPEAKER_04 47:12

Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't sure if you were gonna like that or not.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Both are wonderful. Both, both, both are great. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

If you're into drama, yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Which I don't I don't like drama in my life. Oh, that like both drama.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

She watches it. How can you tell that Dr. Sanson is feeling frustrated during an office visit? I love that this is a question.

SPEAKER_07 47:37

Hold on, hold on. I was laughing.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

And you're reading an essay over there. We always can tell when it's a really hard income. So I'm like, oh man. Ready. Seg go.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

I'm so excited to see how much Rennes of Cheeks and Daggins. She says, hmm, I do lips. Whatever the side profile. She doesn't do that. I do do that. I didn't even notice that I did that actually. Yes, yes. But I get I get off. It's like the tight lip smile on my neck. Your body betrays you. It does. Oh my gosh, it does.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Last and best one. If Dr. Swanson had to pick her absolute favorite bluey episode, which one is this one, right? Yes. Which episode would that be? Favorite bluey?

SPEAKER_05 48:26

This is hard. She has a lot of favorite ones.

SPEAKER_04 48:28

Very hard. Think twice on this one.

SPEAKER_05 48:30

Favorite?

SPEAKER_04 48:32

There's this thing that people do. It's like Bible versus like if you're feeling sad or if you're feeling this, you should read this. You should read this. And I feel like you're really good at recommending when I'm feeling sad, which bluey episode too. So I feel like you should have like little cards, like fun little cards. Or it's like, oh, if you're feeling lonely, if you're feeling like you don't like sunscreen.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

There's there's a bluey episode to tackle every issue. Every issue.

SPEAKER_06 48:58

There's my new counselor in life.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

Like I get so much out of watching that show. It makes me feel so much better about everything. Yeah. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

Ready to say go. Yeah. Yes, yes, and yes.

SPEAKER_06 49:12

I wrote charades, hospital, or baby race. Yes. Only charades because of muffin. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

And she's like, oh ballerina. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

I need a tutu. But all but baby race is probably the one that I tell, well, I talk about all of the episodes. You recommend it. But I talk about baby race a lot. Which means baby race. Baby race, I meant I recommend it to any mom of a baby. Yeah. You know, a baby under age two, or especially under age one, especially a first-time mom. Yeah. It's such a wonderful episode.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

And it makes you cry.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

It makes you cry, but like happy. And it's it's got so much funny humor in it. And Bluey is a baby, and it's so cute.

SPEAKER_04 50:02

Actually, like it goes back to when she was a baby. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

And so mom is telling Bluey and Bingo a story about when Bluey was a baby. And at one point, Bingo says, Where was I? And Mom says, You weren't born yet. And Bingo says, I was invisible. Invisible.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

My gosh. And like dad in the episode is just like, he he's like a minor bit, but if you focus on him, it's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

I started a list of what I was gonna have as my top five episodes of Bluey, and now there's like 27. Like Larry said earlier, like she's got 27 on her top five. Yeah, it's grown.

SPEAKER_06 50:44

It is grown fast.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Yeah, yeah. I saved that question for the uh for the end because I was going to accept any answer. All of them, all of them are amazing. But yes, you guys nailed some of the key ones. The other one I'd probably throw out there is the pool. Yeah, I was thinking of that one too. Yeah, and facey talk.

SPEAKER_06 51:00

Facy talk, that's a cute one too. That's what about FaceTime?

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Yeah. Muffins in it. I didn't watch that one.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

Oh my gosh, it is so, so good. Well, speaking of things that are good, this was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 51:13

This was so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

You guys are wonderful. You make my days in clinics so much better. I couldn't do it without you. I wish the best for you in all things, but also stay and work with me always. Yeah. And never go anywhere. And you make my days better, you make patients' days better. You have a huge impact on the care that we provide. And this was really fun. And I was the audience. Yes, yes. I think the audience got a little taste for what it feels like to work in pediatric dermatology, the ups, the downs, and a whole lot of bluey.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

And we get flooded with applications back up.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

Oh, we never know. I mean, I've got I've got Olivia Anna.

SPEAKER_04 51:50

I know, but just a roster. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

Yeah. Waitlist for the position. Well, thank you guys so much for tuning in to this episode of Skin Credible. We'll see you next time. Keep watching, keep liking, keep subscribing. That's right. And share with your friends and getting better. We're six months in. I'm getting better. Yes. Thanks, everybody.